Gov. Christie: ‘We Cannot Wait’ to Reform Education
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Last week, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie took his plans for education reform to the Oprah show to unveil a new public/private venture in the Newark school district. This week, the governor is taking his case to the state level, introducing a number of tough-love reforms aimed at improving classroom achievement in the Garden State.
On Tuesday, Gov. Christie announced new plans to tie classroom achievement to pay increases and career advancement for teachers, redefining the standards for teacher performance and moving away from a seniority- or tenure-based system. In its place, Christie hopes to implement a more top-to-bottom overhaul of New Jersey classrooms.
“We cannot wait. Your children are sitting in these classrooms today. We cannot wait to make it better,” Christie told the local CBS affiliate’s Marcia Kramer.
Unqualified teachers will feel the lash. The governor is demanding that teachers in kindergarten through fifth grade actually pass tests in reading and math in order to be certified.
“It might lead to the firing of teachers and principals who hurt our children,” Christie said.
Christie’s planned reforms include prohibiting salary scales based on seniority and awarding tenure and pay raises based on classroom performance.
“We are paying a fortune for something that is not giving our children the hope and the feeling that their tomorrow can be better than their future,” Christie said.
While a number of educational experts applauded the governor’s actions, a spokesman for the NJ Education Association condemned the plan, claiming Christie was “trying to implement education reform without any input from educators.”
“He is with excellence in education for everyone by prioritizing teachers — their brilliance, their art and their skills. We will dramatically improve the quality of education of our kids in New Jersey, particularly those most in need,” said Derrell Bradford, director of Excellent Education for Everyone.
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Comments (130)
Zcat
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 12:03amLeave it to the Education Association to condemned the plan! We desperately need more Chris Christie! We need Chris Chritie for President!!!! i love this man! I imagine you have quite a few teachers that can only do there minimum of math and english! If they’re not qualified they should go!
Report Post »Magua
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 7:26amZcat, I actually hope Mr. Christie stays where he is and fixes Jersey. I would like there to be Mr. Christies in a lot more states, particularly in the northeast as well as here in North Carolina. If you get out into the rural areas of places like New York State, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and the like you will find common sense people that think like Mr. Christie. Some folks in earlier posts talk about strengthening our relationships with the local and state officials. I for one am tired of the career politicians. They voting themselves benefits far in excess of the norm or the ability of private industry to provide. The root of most of the maladies in our country lies at the feet of the unions. I am not talking about the rank and file people but rather everyone above them. They are working for themselves not for the people that pay the dues.
Report Post »NIS
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 11:50pmHe’s strong. A leader. I’d vote for him. Has anyone seen any other that shows common sense?
Report Post »SteelMagnolia
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 11:27pmGod, I love this guy. He needs to run for POTUS.
Report Post »MCGIRV
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 11:49pmHe sure is trying to do the kinds of things that need to be done. The kind of presidential candidate we need more of..
Report Post »Endstatism
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 11:24pmGovernor Christie has pointed out a serious flaw with government in general. Because of unions, no matter how hard you work as a government employee, you are going to end up with the same raise as the slacker and the mediocre. No wonder many government offices show such indifference toward the public. If raises were based on performance, you would get better quality government and the lazy would be weeded out.
Report Post »Endstatism
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 11:19pmProbably the mice are much smarter than your average progressive
Report Post »Living In NYC
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 11:17pmThe whole educational systems needs a rework…quit throwing good money after bad. It’s about time for pay for performance for all educators and admistrators.. Let‘s don’t stop there, get rid of Carter’s Department of Education! As well as set up the performance standards for all government employees. The day of the never ending job (I mean paycheck) and benefits must come to an end for all government jobs!
Report Post »Hythloday
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 11:09pmChristie is awesome. (Let me just note to the trolls who will collect any compliment for Christie and spin it as we think Mr. Christie is god-like. No, that is what your side does with politicians, alas, the projection doesn’t work here. Christie is human; that’s how we like them. I know progressives hate humans, as the majority of their policies in some way are about eliminating them, minus themselves, of coarse.) He is the archetype we need everywhere. Any problem has more layers than are usually addressed, but Christie appears to be tackling many of them at once, and with something as important as education, he is putting himself on a notable, if not admirable trajectory. Cheers to CC!
Report Post »Eagle07
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 7:17amTRolls? you better look in the mirror. I voted for the man and now I have a big case of buyers remorse.He is doing nothing to rid the state of cap and trade.As a matter of fact he practically brgs about the 70 Million dolars the state has from it which comes off the backs of all New Jerseyans.He is talking a good game but there have been no results yet.He backs RINO’s I.e. Castle in DEL.The state has been in charge of the Newark school district for years now all of a sudden he gets a 100 Million and turns control over to the City.Keep an eye on where that money goes.The country made a mistake by not looking at what OBOZO did before they put him in office people should watch Christie closely before they anoint him I made that mistake by voting for him he won’t get my vote for Dog catcher now.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 12:24pmFolks Eagle is from NJ. His words of caution are valuable AND IMPORTANT. Look how he stands on the key issues of Constitutionalists. Certianly Regional Cap and Trade is NOT Constitutionalists.
Report Post »LLATPOH
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 10:20pmFirst post on the blaze – hey everyone.
You know, the first person that comes to mind when I hear New Jersey and Education is Joe Clark. Now, I don’t know about their philosophical backgrounds, or much of either person at all, really. But Christie and Clark both share very similar traits. They are both leaders.
Any chance of getting “Crazy Joe” to run Newark? :)
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 12:25pmCrazy Joe cleaned up the mess in Patterson. Hopefull, crazy Christie will do the same for all of NJ.
Report Post »BoatFix
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 10:07pmIf this Christie guy looks as good and is as successful in a couple of years, I’m going to beg him to run for POTUS!!
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 12:27pmI suggest that we NOW get behind a proven Constitutionalist Ron Paul for POTUS. Ask Ron to have Chrsitie as his VP. That truly would be a powerhouse ticket.
Report Post »NJProud
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 10:03pmChristie is doing what every reasonable person has been saying for years, get away from the system that rewards time over ability. As a parent with three children in NJ schools, I don’t give a damn what the unions think of this. Over the years my children have had great teachers and they have had bad teachers. Both make a lasting impression.
Thank you Governor Christie for actually doing what we sent you to do. Thank you.
Report Post »EAGLEMOM
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 10:00pmThe key here is that the progressives do not want an educated electorate. Their only hope of reaching their destructive agenda is an uneducated electorate. I continue to be more and more impressed with Gov Christie. We need many many more like him.
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:54pmThe monkeys stand for honesty,
Giraffes are insincere,
And the elephants are kindly but
They’re dumb.
Orangutans are skeptical
Of changes in their cages,
And the zookeeper is very fond of rum.
Zebras are reactionaries,
Antelopes are missionaries,
Pigeons plot in secrecy,
And hamsters turn on frequently.
What a gas! You gotta come and see
At the Zoo
Report Post »littlebin518
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 11:21pmThat was a little weird.
Report Post »kiwi1
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:49pmWatch and see what happens. This Federal Government does not want the States to have any rights (remember Arizona) . If this really takes off and improves Education, this administration will find a way to stop it (they will be usurping Federal Authority after all). The last thing they want in an Educated Electorate, that is the greatest threat to a communist regime. They want ALL THE POWER.
Report Post »Truth Be Known
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 11:35pmI agree. Why else would we have to sort through so much revisionist history to find the truth about out nation and our founders? After an educated electorate the thing the left fears most are those of us over 60. We remember the simplicity of America when it WAS great. We remember a nation with freedom from sea to sea. We remember when the 4th of July was celebrated BY THE PEOPLE and not FOR us by the state….. ostensibly because we might hurt ourselves. We remember a nation that set goals then turned loose the free enterprise system to meet those goals. We are still the ONLY nation on earth to have put people on the moon and brought them back safely. Now we don’t even have a space program in any real sense.
Our past is being redacted while our future is being stolen. We now live in a country where a man can be fined $5000 for the crime of giving away the excess vegetables from his garden….. practicing the art of charity. This isn’t a slippery slope….. it‘s a freaking cliff and we either figure out how to fly or we’re all going to end up like that coyote in the old road runner cartoons. (Oh….. sorry…. the younger of you won’t know about those as big brother has banned them for being too violent)
Report Post »Rob
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:47pmOkay, I am a high school teacher.. a CONSERVATIVE teacher, and let me tell you what is really up.
If I have students do ALL work in the classroom, I get one hundred percent completion of all work; I can get them to work.
However, if I send ANY work home…HOME mind you..to be completed, I get fifty percent turn in.
WHERE is it not working????????
I learned early on…I asked a non-performing student, “What do you think you are going to do with your life.” … His response tells the story. He looked at me with surprise and said, “I am gonna go on welfare like my mother!”
TRUE story… this same student was arrested three years later in my classroom by the police, handcuffed, taken away, and did three years in jail for a gang murder.
If someone wants to contact me for info on this for an article.. go for it.
I don’t like everything about public schools… but we deal with what we get from the welfare suckers. Over half our school is on “free” breakfast and lunch programs.
Report Post »rgilfillan
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 10:13pmRob I really do sympathize with what you are saying about homework, however, there are simply more problems than who isn’t helping the children. When you have only one parent in the home and that parent works two jobs there simply isnt any time left to ensure the work is done. I fully understand the obstacles teachers face every day with children who just haven’t learned what they need to progress. The answer isn’t fire the teachers or punish the teachers, but the teachers must take some responsibility. When a child reaches the 5th grade and is unable to read obviously the school system has failed. The programs such as no child left behind where a child is giving a passing grade and allowed to move on, wether or not he/she has learned what is needed, coupled with many teachers who just do not care about their students is one of the biggest problems with the education system. In many cases there is nothing that can be done to help out the home life. The only option is to educate the next generation so they will be able to be there to assist their children when it comes time for school. The best way to do that is to remove the obstacles such as teachers who simply will not or can not teach. As a high school teacher wouldn’t it be wonderful if 10 years every child that enters your class could read and do long division the first day?
Report Post »RandomOne
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 10:39pmI’m sorry but some people realy do have to fail and fail hard, and they may fail as a family for a generation or two, but some day someone in that family is going to wake up and say it doesn’t have to be this way. Then and only then, they will live.
Report Post »QweeQwa
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 9:26am@ Rob
You say this, ‘If someone wants to contact me for info on this for an article.. go for it.”
Can you just post a link to the article?
Report Post »krispy66
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:40pmKeep going Governer your doing a great job
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:37pmCRIMINALIZE all unions and i will predict a vast improvement in our educational system (even better once we get the fed out of it too) an amazing growth in industry and a house cleaning of our politics. once you remove the bribery of unions in political races, and the influence of business from our politics and return it to the citizens ( notice i didnt say population) our country will finally be back on the path to greatness
Report Post »carol m
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:03amMaybe if we got rif of all unions we would not have to bail out the workers pensions because the money would be there
Report Post »V-Forge
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:32pmI say we make a petition and draft the man. As americans we can elect whomever we like and DAMN i like this man.
Report Post »peterMN
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:19pmI am a teacher…. a union rep once told me…. when the kids start paying union dues, I will represent them, but until that time, we represent the teachers and what is best for them.
dont you just love it when they say its for the “kids”….
Report Post »Independent Tess
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:41pmI am a product of the education system before the Dept. of Education was created and am saddened at how the education of our kids has been “dumbed down” and at the incompetence of some teachers I have seen (I have two children). My education was so superior to what kids are getting today.
Report Post »Eagle07
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 6:58amI agree Tess I have seen kids in grocery stores take 10 minutes to figure out how much change to give if the machine don’t tell them.I had a bill of $11.50 So I gave them $21.50 Figuring I would just be handed a 10 and the kid looked at me like I was trying to get over or someting it is unbelievable.My own kids will say hey Dad what is blank times blank and when I tell them they have to get a calculator to see if i’m right.They can‘t believe I don’t have to use a calculator or at least paper.Education has been going downhill quick I think its a dimwitocrat strategy. Trying to make us all mushrooms.
Report Post »Magua
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 7:15amIndependent Tess, Likewise my education is vastly superior to anything the government schools provide today. I had teachers that actually cared whether we understood the subject matter. Dumbing them down is a great way to make new democrats. I saw Frank Luntz on Hannity‘s show last night and was appalled by the young people’s (less than 30) lack of critical thinking. I don’t know where they get their news but their future is being mortgaged by the feds. The sense of entitlement is so pervasive that I fear a society of serfs. I told my kids thirty to twenty, work hard in school because the majority of your contemporaries are not. Consequently, you will rise to the top just as cream does in fresh milk.
Report Post »baldwin4freedom
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 8:16am@MAGUA
I watched that on Hannity, too. Wasn’t that just amazing, the ignorance of those kids. The other thing was the ignorance of that one black gal. She was just defending her vote instead of looking at the big picture.
It does not suprise me, though, about those kids. I have been working that generation for years and they continue to prove to me that they do not have any lateral thinking skills. Very, very few of them are able to adapt to change, from my experience. Maybe to much video gaming, sitting in front of a computer and tv, instead of experiencing the realities of the real world. It is actually not amazing or suprising, it is sickening!
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:16pmThe le3aders of most NEA affiliates are political hacks. They are beleivers in a monopoly, not comeptiton in education . Christie is courgeous for doing what he’s doing.
Report Post »V-Forge
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:53pmYes he is and I’m from jersey and i plan to back him and make him stronger every place i can.
Report Post »1234567
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:07pmNew Jersey spends $22,000 a year per student. That’s crazy. I live on that much money a year.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:23pmIf only each child received $22,000 worth of education.
Report Post »Brooke Lorren
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 11:24pmMost private schools cost less than that. When I was working at Kindercare, kids could go to an all-day accredited Kindergarten, have breakfast, lunch, and snacks paid for, and would pay half the cost.
Report Post »AMERICA4EVER
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:21amIt would be interesting to know dollar for dollar where and what it goes for.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:06pmI hope everyone here takes one thing away from this article: State Governments are COMPLETELY different animals from the Federal Government. This is a subject I am just beginning to learn about, as all of my focus had been directed as anger at the Federal Government’s failings. I have, until recently, neglected educating myself on my state’s Constitution. The State and Local level is where almost all government power should reside and I found myself severely lacking in knowledge about its machinations. Do yourself a favor and start a self-study course on the subject today as it pertains to your state. You might be very surprised by what you find.
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:14pmAmen! We should all be very involved in our local government.
Report Post »baldwin4freedom
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:15pmOne good way to justify why the founders did that is look at it this way. If your particulair state gets overbearing or just has some laws you are not willing to live under then a person can vote with their feet by moving to another state. When the whole country is run by a central government there is no where to go.
Our way out IS states rights.
Report Post »V-Forge
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:31pmExactly. We should all remind them in Washington that the states formed the federal government not the other way around. Get to know your local politicians, that is where your power lies. You may vote for president but your elector might have a different idea. Every county in every state is in your hands. This upcoming election is about the real power in Washington. No president even obama has the power to make real change without those state elections going his way. His power comes from his party winning seats and that result is handed to him or denied him by we the people. The battle is on, get to know who your representatives and senators are and G.R.I.P. (Get Rid Of Incumbent Politicians). ((Except Michelle Bachman)) lol.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:36pmRoger that Broker. I’ve dabbled with trying to make changes in our public schools. Very difficult. Worst than trying to change corporate policy. Often I had considered looking more into what’s happening in our local Judicial and General Assembly, such as following pieces of legislation and court cases. Your encouragement is greatly appreciated. Beck U.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:56pmThis may or may not cause an “Ah Hah!?” moment with anyone else and spark the desire to research, but when I learned (originally from a friend of mine who is a State Representative) that the Attorney General of my state is not required to actually be an attorney, it got my research wheels turning, so to speak.
Report Post »Free the Midwives
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 10:16pmYes. The State Government is where much of the “control” on the free market is, especially in health care. Midwives, both nurse midwives and certified professional midwives, have difficulty working in many states due to restrictive state laws. There is no free market in health care and therefore fewer choices for consumers and higher prices. Many nurses, nurse practitioners and nurse-midwives have been behind a national health care system because it was a way to be able to practice and get paid. This is also true of education in many states where laws and regulations may really reduce the free market in education. We must free the markets at both federal and state level.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 10:44pmFREE, Don’t just do something, stand there.
Report Post »But seriously, it’s not up to us to fight for your profession, that is up to you. Learn (albeit for a polar opposite objective) from our Community-Organizer-in-Chief’s example. Organize petitions and groups at your state and local level to affect real change at the state legislative level. That’s the beauty of State-Level government, a relatively small, but well organized group can actually have a real effect. Don’t let anyone (unions, POTUS or anyone else) make “organize” a dirty word. The dirt lies in the motives.
CitizenJob
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 12:37amIndeed. The best government is the least government and the most effective government is that which is closest to the people.
Report Post »Al Gator
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:05pm“trying to implement education reform without any input from educators.”
Err,
“trying to implement education reform without any input from union thugs.”
There, fixed it.
Report Post »relayer24
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:05pmIf the Unions truly are about the kids, they should embrace this concept. Seems fair, and rewards success…weeds out failure. And the kids are the winners! The Union reaction will say volumes….
Report Post »rgilfillan
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:58pmWas that a serious post? It is simple. The Unions are a business. They don’t care if the children or the teachers get hurt as long as the dues are paid up and the pensions of the Union officials are taken care of. The Unions stopped caring about the people they represent when the people started paying to be represented.
Report Post »rocktruth
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:27amYou can not effectively educate children without getting parents involved.
They should promote adult night school for parenting classes. Or some type of reward system for parents who get involved with their children education.
If you reward the best teachers in school, shouldn’t we also reward the most active parents at home somehow?
Report Post »Eagle07
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 6:33amRock you have a point but the problem with the new anointed ones plan is you have some inner city schools where the teachers will be fired every year.Granted we all know there are some bad teachers.But also a lot of parents who are worried about their own stuff than spending time helping their children learn and making sure homework is getting done. They would rather be partying.So you will have a lot of decent teachers not getting the pay or not wanting to teach in the cities because they will not last or get the samr raises as good teachers in the suburbs.
Report Post »nicolead
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 7:19am@ RockTruth
I appreciate your sentiment and I do agree that you cannot effectively educate children without getting the parents involved. I do however disagree with the reward system. It is the PARENTS job TO BE involved in THEIR child’s education. The “reward” you receive is a functioning member of society and not a drain, if you do your job right. Your “reward” is the child itself and watching them grow and become adults.
The Department of Education has successfully made parents feel that they need not have any part in educating their child. The truth is that we as parents ARE the child’s primary educator. When this fails and parents depend on a bloated unionized system to teach their child, then most children have no hope of succeeding. There are some children that just persevere but they are not the norm.
I would like to see a day when parents do not allow the government to tell them that they are too stupid to be a part of their child’s education. To not leave this most important job to “big brother” because they tell us they know best or because they have all the professors.
Report Post »momoftwochildren
Posted on October 1, 2010 at 4:17amSo reward a teacher and pay them more with tenure. What exactly does tenure mean these days. It doesn’t make any sense to me. I know of a high school teacher who threatend to poke a highschool students eyes out with sharpend pencil, threatend to brake another students wrist and my son came home numerous times complaining if he had to hear her voice one more time he would go crazy, and said she told the students she did not care about them numerous times. I complained to the superintendent to no avail, his response was I could not make a complaint unless my son engaged in a meeting with both her and made the complaint in front of him, however, he could not take him out of her class until it was fully investigated in which he had to keep attending? Even though I told him I was afraid for him? He then had extensive summer school class and I made sure it wasn’t with her. He went for a few days and to my surprise he came home and said they moved him to her extensive summer class. I was outraged, especially thinking that when I dropped him off at the school site only to find a week later he was ditching her class and failed english again. He said he couldn’t stand to hear her voice because all she did was scream and complain about personal matters. He then told me the state came into observe her classroom and all the kids thought it was funny because she bribed them with donuts if they were good. Shortly after I had to bring my husband in uniform with me to his IEP… I demanded they take him out of her class once again! And they did. Things turned sideways in a bad bad way a week later, he started cutting class and ended up in in home hospital. Soon a charter school, back at the same school again and eventually moved him to another high school due to his fear of the school. Low and behold, I registered him in this new school, with another IEP making a transitional plan and the counsler read to my son and I all the teachers he would have. To my surprise, she was now at his new school and they wanted to put him in her class once again. I said hell no,. But could I make a complaint before the uninvitable happend… no, it would of made things worse once again, so I thought. My son was a victim being blamed! . My question is, did the new school not read my complaint at the initial IEP and they weren’t thourough enough while looking out for his best interest and making a plan for him,,,, or did the previous school fail to put it in his IEP. Anyways, was sure she would get a pink slip when they were handing them out, to my surprise, she never did.
Report Post »And rewarding a teacher for being good??? Paying them more??? Why not fix the problem now and get rid of the bad ones now!! It’s simple. Why was my son being blamed for their inadequacy. get rid of them. and it’s not just the teachers, it’s the unions, and admin…. ect…. the whole system is wrong, and with my experience, it gave me a feeling of now power to step in and support my son when he needed me too, although I did anyways….. as the teacher I previously mentioned above told me….” leave the teaching to me.” so there you go, thats our school system… would you like to hear more??????? I have more!
RightPolitically
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:00pmTenure is just another communist idea. No wonder it’s so popular in academia!
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:19pmThat is truly a STUPIR remark, Tenure was created many years before Communism was around. It was set up to protect frete speach by Professors against those who might diasagree. It helped protect educators against he whims of Kings. It is posts like this that show how stupid some Constitutionalists can be.
FWIW. in NC we have tenure but it has to be reviewed and renewed every five years. I beleive that is a very effective method and a good protection against Professors who became deadwood after getting tenure.
Report Post »BRAVEHEART
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:36pmThe real purpose of Tenure can be defeated and perverted like most useful devices that are eventually perverted by Super-intelligent Liberals
Report Post »PeachyinGA
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:40pmThankfully for the STUPIR, FRETE SPEACH is to be enjoyed by all. Tenure protects many teachers, kindergarten to college, who are not earning their living!
Report Post »V-Forge
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:51pmSorry contrarian but tenure came before communism? Communism is a very old concept. Apparently older than you realize. Even before it had an official name, the way of communism has always been around destroying civilizations before some union thought tenure might be a good idea. You say it was made to protect educators from politicians. That is my job, not some rule. Your teachers and professors will be under the whim of those i elect. If i choose wrong then that’s just tough, It’s my place to fix it. You don’t get to build a method of beating the system to keep professors comfortable and take control of the system out of the hands of the people. We all have to play by the rules. You can‘t give tenure to mcdonalds employees and you can’t give it to professors either. Every person must earn their own merit in this society. A free ride just draws the liberal / communist flies. I don’t care what pot induced, great idea they thought it was, it’s still stupid.
Report Post »lobster
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 11:07pmContrarianthinker. Before you put your foot in your mouth you should have googled tenure. It always referred to occupation of a parcel of land. Your spelling also needs a tune-up.
Report Post »tepartyblog.info
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 3:18am@Contrarianthinker
Report Post »Some form of communism has been around forever. It doesn’t matter if something has been around since the birth of man; if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it is most likely a duck. http://www.kipling.org.uk/poems_copybook.htm just an enjoyable poem
Ellie
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 4:15amTenure has a free speech role to play at the University level where both the Professors and Students are adults and thus old enough to employ critical thinking to what is presented to them. At the K-12 levels, where the students are minors, tenure is counter productive as it forces the children to be exposed to ideas that are highly offensive to the dignity of man (such as Union/Progressiv/Social/Commun-ism).
The K-12 Levels are also highly objective in the way that success is defined. There are a simple series of skills that need to be learned at different levels along the way. No middle school teacher needs to be discussing any controversial issues with the children that would need free speech protection because while they are minors.
We the Parents via School Boards decide what they should be taught and when. School Tax Districts are set up by the Parents to fund their schools making both the administrators and teachers OUR employees and thus they are subject to OUR view of what should be taught.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:02pmV Forge, WADR, you seemed to missed the fact that Kings were NOT elected but had absolute power. Even with tenure, the KING could rid himself of those who opposed him. Death at times: banisnment more likely. It allowed for the concept of free speach to emerge to reality. In a fully elective system that had proven justice system, tenure probably would NOT be needed.
Communism started with Hegal and Karl Marx in the mid 1800s. IF you’re trying to make the point that it is Luciferian inspired and thus goes back even to Adam and Eve, I would agree with you.
But words/titles have meanings and are necessary to allow all to talk on the same page.
As to tenure, some private colleges do NOT give it but do increase the length of the contract as a Professor proves his/her worth. BYU is on University that does that.
Lastly, I would urge you to closely follow Ellie’s post. she is very informed.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:07pmLobster, spelling/typing Sorry but my thinking speed often gets ahead of my finger coordination. I will try to do better.
We’re talking about tenure in an educational envronment, NOT a land holding environment. I was well aware of what tenure was in land dealings. To ave a fruitful and educational dialogue, we all must focus on the context and NOT get off on to side matters.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 8:54pmIt’s been a week, what are we waiting for?
GlennBeckIsADemagogue
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:30pm“American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains.” – Christine O‘Donnell on Fox News’s The O’Reilly Factor, 2007
(this also explains the fully functioning mouse brain inside Gov Christie) a random observation on the blaze, 2010
poverty.sucks
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:40pmWhat is the mice response when asked 2+2?
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:42pm@ GlennBeckIsADemagogue you are a prime example of our failing school system THANK YOU FOR YOU SELFLESS ACT IN PROVIDING YOURSELF AS AN EXAMPLE we shall all be praying for you hoping its not too late
BRAVEHEART
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 9:44pmDemagogue was dropped on his head as a child. This is the only explanation for the total inability to comprehend REALITY!!!
Report Post »REVEL
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 10:00pmI think he should hire consultant, John Taylor Gatto author of “A Different Kind of Teacher – Solving the crisis of American Schooling”. This guy exposed the schools when it wasn’t socially acceptable yet. Everyone should read up on this guy. A true American and former New York City school teacher who went against the grain. It’s going to be hard to fix something that has so many problems and you need a real expert who thinks outside the box and knows the hidden government agenda.
Report Post »RandomOne
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 10:25pmI’m an engineer and every day I have to create something new and better than before with the same raw materials. If I don’t I will be fired. I don‘t understand why teacher can’t be heald to the same standard.
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 11:06pmLulz… America is being destroyed by communists and all idiots like GBIAD can do is attack the latest target of the left on things that are completely irrelevant.
PROTIP: Radical political and social philosophies affect your life. What someone said about mice in 2007 does not. Notice how we attack Obama-and-friends on policy, not the idiotic things they say on the side? And there are PLENTY to choose from if we really wanted to go there.
This is going to be one hell of an easy win. Talk about grasping at straws! The tactics never change, and as a result even the left is starting to recognize and grow weary of them.
You keep it up, GBIAD. You’re helping us more than you could ever know. From the bottom of my heart… thank you. Thank you so much.
Report Post »CoFX
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 11:14pm“American scientific companies have found a way to remove the brains out of humans and allow them to still be semi-functioning people, capable of copying and pasting quotes. They do not have the ability to carry on meaningful conversation however, and only become defensive when questioned about off-topic comments. With no functioning brain cells, they must rely on Democrats and left wing media to spoon feed them all information.”
Report Post »PatriotRider
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 12:03am@ GBIAD- Really? That’s all you got? Is you pea brain any better?
Report Post »Ellie
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 3:55am@GlennBeckIsADemagogue
Gee… I wonder where Christine O‘Donnell might have gotten that idea?
Dateline: 26 February 2001 – 6 years before her statement.
“Irving Weissman of Stanford University, who carried out the experiment with colleagues from the Salk Institute and StemCells, a California biotechnology company, is thinking of taking the research further into unknown and controversial territory. He can see a way to produce mice in which almost all the brain cells (neurones) are human.” – http://ngin.tripod.com/279.htm
But wait, there’s more…
Dateline: 17 February 2005 – 2 years prior to her statement
“Stanford University has given famed researcher Irving Weissman permission to create a mouse-human hybrid. The intent is to inject human brain cells into the brains of developing mice to see what happens.
Professor Henry T. Greely, director of the Center for Law and the Biosciences and leader of the committee that considered the proposal, told the San Jose Mercury News, “We concluded that if we see any signs of human brain structures . . . or if the mouse shows human-like behaviors, like improved memory or problem-solving, it’s time to stop.” – http://www.livescience.com/technology/technovel_mouse_050217.html
Dr. Weissman is still a fellow at Salk: http://www.salk.edu/faculty/nonresident_fellows.html
Granted the process is a bit more complicated then “cross-breeding” but perhaps we should ask Dr. Weissman about the accuracy of Christine O‘Donnell depiction of his research:
http://med.stanford.edu/profiles/Irving_Weissman/
Ellie :D
Report Post »Thizzy
Posted on September 29, 2010 at 3:33pmhey demagogue I dont even beleive in god and Im still gunna pray for ya. but arnt you glad that beck makes a website that doesnt screen comments like MMFA does. I wonder why?
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