Grandfather Says Nothing Wrong With Making Child Sleep in a Shed
- Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:10pm by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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A Virginia grandfather says he has no idea why the state took his grandchildren away from him, despite making one of them sleep in the shed overnight multiple times as punishment.
“I have no idea,” Arthur Warren said to WHSV-TV regarding why his grandchildren were taken into foster care. “Your guess is as good as mine.”
But guessing is unnecessary according to Investigator Paul McCormick. He said the school contacted the state when they noticed the boy coming to class shivering and cold, and police later found out about the boy’s sleeping arrangements.
Not possible, said Warren. “Shivering and cold?” he asked. “Well, he comes in here and gets warm before he ever goes to school. I don‘t see where there’s anything wrong with it, because it wasn’t cold enough to hurt anything. I mean if it was cold, yeah, but no colder than it was then, I don‘t see where there’s anything wrong with it.”
Instead, he thinks government is intruding on his ability to discipline.
“Well, to tell you the truth, you can’t correct kids anymore,” commented Warren. “You can’t lay a hand on one, or they go to foster people, and you’re in trouble because you did. If they could correct them like they did when we grew up, you wouldn’t have trouble.”






















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Cujo
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:05pmMy grandchildren frequently ask me to set up a tent for them to sleep in or request to sleep in my unheated shop. I guess I’ll start getting a signed hold-harmless agreement in the future :-). How sad that we have come to this?
Report Post »TheGreyPiper
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:18pmCujo — well, that‘s why you’re the grown-up, to make sure kids are safe and not doing something stupis or getting into a hazardous situation. If your unheated shed has cans of gasoline and paint thinner and rat killer — yeah, I’d say it would be pretty stupid to let kids sleep in it. Do you have alligators or rattlesnakes or coyotes in your neighborhood? Yeah, I’d say putting kids in a tent outside might be a bad idea. Believe me, I dislike the idea of government goon squads taking kids away from parents, but I’ll tell ya, where I live I know of a lot of people that are hardly fit to breath, let alone be parents, and I personally know of kids taken out of homes where they may not have survived. So yeah, parents’ rights and all, but no child sacrifice, k?
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 3:31pmAlligators, rattlesnakes, coyotes? I guess maybe you live in the city if you think those things are running around in everybodys backyard. I grew up in rural Arizona, the closest house was a ranch about 1.5 miles away. Our house didn’t look half a nice as that shed, 5 people in a one room shack, no hot water, no electricity, no heater . Just a wood cookstove in the winter and open windows in the summer. The kids slept outdoors all the time, usually in a hammock, we remain unkilled by the rattle snakes, mountain lions, black bears and coyotes that are native to the area. The shed kid was perfectly safe I’m sure.
Report Post »TheGreyPiper
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:00pmDisclaimer: at work, can’t watch the show. BUT. Yeah, I think gramps needs to be looked in on at least. Taking all the kids? Probably not. How old are is the one in question? I have 6 kids, and yes, to the snark up there, neither the wife nor myself ever hesitated to spank — as a last resort. But turning them right out of the house??? I can’t even comprehend that — kinda makes my blood go cold, honestly. I’ve always heard that “Home is the place that when you go there they have to take you in.” Is this a common southern thing? Sorry, I’m a life-long Yankee and have never heard of this as a punishment.
Report Post »jcgiffing
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:00pmFrom being taken out behind the woodshed when my father was a kid to being housed in one overnight? I’d say that was a move up!
Report Post »Amerigo Vespucci
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:58pmAnd why is this wrong? He had a mattress. more than 750,000 children in Haiti would love to have a shed to sleep in. Gimme a break.
Report Post »dablooz
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:57pmThat’s punishment? Please. I’d trade the disciplining I got as a kid for a camp out anytime.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 2:29pmTotally agree.
Report Post »MeCpl13
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:56pmWhile I agree that people aren’t allowed to truly correct or discipline kids these days without being sent to court, I have to say we don’t know how long the child here was made to sleep in the shed and what sort of far-reaching consequences it was having. Was the child sleeping poorly (probably, since they just showed a blanket and pillow on the wooden floor)? Was it for a length of time where the child was suffering in other areas, such as poor school performance, getting sick more easily, etc? Discipline is one thing, but if that discipline starts to affect the health and well-being of the child, that is obviously going way too far. We don’t know how far this situation went.
Report Post »warner
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:56pmI was the youngest of three sons and all of us were discipled with love. When I say love, I mean my fathers thin black belt and my Mothers fly-swater. I also want to say…. THANK YOU MOM AN DAD, I LOVE YOU BOTH VERY MUCH! Thank you for loving us enough to care! Nothing wrong in lighting a little butt up to teach respect and discipline.
Report Post »roberja
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:53pmWe don’t have all the facts to make an intelligent comment in this case. There had to be other factors in this sad case. I didn’t see any sheets and blankets in the shed. Why were the kids in this man’s care in the first place. Often in abuse cases, one child is picked on and can do nothing right to please the abuser. Withhold judgement until all the facts are in.
Report Post »crystalinwi
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:50pmthis is wrong, the kid shouldn’t have been in the shed, the grandpa is an old fool
Report Post »sheenashina1964
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:09pmThank you Crystalinwi, I thought I was the only one with a little common sense on here!!!! This grandfather was totally wrong and the child is sleeping indoors!!!
Report Post »LLATPOH
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:12pmI think it’s ok to have an issue with what he did, but the question is – at what point should the state step in and tell us how to discipline our kids?
Where does it end? The guy has a valid point. You can’t practice your version of discipline without getting your kids taken away nowadays.
CPS in Pennsylvania took a 2-day old baby away from her parents because the mother, during birth, had a urinalysis come back high in opiates. Why? Because she had an “everything bagel” from Dunkin Donuts the day before, which has poppyseeds on it.
Although not related incidents, it shows just how much power the state has over our abilities to raise our kids in the way we see fit.
This child was not in danger of starvation or hypothermia, yet he’s now away from his primary caregivers. Why? Because he didn’t sleep in the house. Could have been a tent, which could be argued is less shelter than a shed, but that would be called camping.
Regardless of whether putting a 9-year old in the shed is right or wrong in anyone’s mind (I personally don’t see is as deprivation of food/clothing/shelter), it‘s not the state’s job to enforce one method of discipline over another.
Report Post »Novamax75
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:25pmBecause he “deserves it” nobody deserves anything except LIFE LIBERTY and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. We Americans were great because we EARNED it. Now we are failing because we DESERVE it.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:48pmWe’ll all be living in tin sheds by the time Obama is done with the country.
Report Post »jedi.kep
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:44pmWay to go Big Brother. Ruin another family.
Report Post »LLATPOH
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:38pmIt’s not our job to dictate to this guy how to discipline his kids.
So, instead of being in a shed overnight (which, as others point out, is close to camping), the kid might have to endure getting duct-taped to a chair for hours or assaulted by a foster parent. Oh, but that NEVER happens!
Report Post »ruffnex
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:37pmMy grandson just spoke STERNLY to his son for misbehaving. Should I report him??? Ha Ha
Report Post »Brooke Lorren
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 2:23pmYes. He needs to be taken out of that dangerous situation right away. /sarcasm
Report Post »AGunAndAPrayer
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:37pmMaking a kid sleep in a shed is child abuse now, oh come on! If the grandpa was taking the kid to the shed and beating, not spanking, but actually beating him( it seems people these days can’t tell the difference) then child services should get involved. Now, though, the government has just torn another family apart by sticking its nose where it doesn’t belong. As usual when the government tries helping, even in this case where no help was needed, it always ends up screwing everything up.
Report Post »RavenGlenn
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:36pmI have no problem at all with having the child sleep in the shed as punishment so long as they have a mattress and blankets or a sleeping bag or something there. Also, there can’t be anything too dangerous in there like…umm…saw blades hanging on the wall or something.
So long as the child has something to keep warm and there isn’t anything they can seriously hurt themselves on, have at it!
Report Post »Novamax75
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:23pmI disagree with the nothing to hurt themself clause…. Kids need to learn. Taught to shoot at 4-5 and thus I always understood that guns are dangerous and safety through understanding is key. Do you then also agree that everything that is capable of being swallowed should be taken away? Kids need to be made to understand and have a healthy respect for the danger of it. Just ma .02
Report Post »RVing-Patriot
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:35pmRight on Grandpa! You tell them to stay out of your family discipline program. When I told my wife about this, this was her words, “we used to beg Dad to let us sleep in the shed.“ Arthur is right in saying ”if they could correct them like they did when we grew up, you wouldn’t have trouble.” Our troops fighting the war overseas live in worse conditions than a night in a shed. Gee, there is no better way to learn survival skills than actually practicing it, even if it’s a result of discipline.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:34pmat least that lucky kid HAD a grandpa and a roofed shed. try living in a CAR or a cardboard box, cos that is what soros and obama have planned. make us Americans live in a vast 3rd world ghetto under their rule.
Report Post »sheenashina1964
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:33pmA child should NEVER be punished this way!!! Shame on the above comments for seeing nothing wrong with this!!!!! Camping? Really? This child deserves a warm, clean, safe place to sleep at night and a shed is not any of those things!!!!! God help our children!!!
Report Post »OkiePatriot
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:40pmDo you feel everyone should get a trophy for participation too and that scores shouldn’t be kept so no one gets their feelings hurt? Give me a break, no wonder our kids have the attitudes they do today and trust me…I’m a teacher….I see lots of attitudes on a hourly basis! No harm, no foul is my motto!
Report Post »sheenashina1964
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:05pmNo trophy for participation or little stars but a shed for months??? I can’t even believe the redneck hicks commenting that this is ok!!!! I am working on a case right now about a kid that had to sleep in a garage for three years, eat dog food and go out in the backyard on a leash…is that ok?? He had food, a roof and yard to “play” in!!!! You people make me sick. You have to be left wing trolls or something to see nothing wrong with this!!! Has everyone lost their minds??? It just wasn’t one night but months of abuse!! I can MAYBE see one night during the summer to scare the kid sraight but during school on multiple nights….this is crazy!!!!
Report Post »TheGreyPiper
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:09pmOkie, don’t be a jerk. “school contacted the state when they noticed the boy coming to class shivering and cold” Does the term “exposure” mean anything to you? Do you the lawn mower? Do you really think making a child sleep in gasoline fumes is OK ? See my other comments, I think gramps is a few crawdads shy of a boil.
And to save you searching — yes. Six.
Report Post »TheGreyPiper
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:27pmAll right kat, YOU set a 5 gallon can of gasoline in your bedroom tonight and I’ll concede the point.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 2:09pmReread the story, the kid wasn’t in the shed for months. You can’t read whatever you want into the story and then go on a rant. It says that he made the kid sleep in there multiple times, do you know what the kid did? maybe he was hitting his Grandmother, you don’t know. As for the lawnmower do you know the grandfather didn’t take it out at night? You guys seem like the kind who either grew up without any punishment or way too much. Children thrive on discipline, that is proven time and time again. I was raised ‘old school’ and if all I got for punishment was sleeping in the shed a few times I would have been thrilled.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 2:16pmOh, and as far as arriving at school shivering and cold, I got cold walking to school,it doesn’t mean he was in the shed, just that it was cold outside. Grampa said the kid came in and warmed up when he got up in the morning, I‘m not a troll I’m just not a person raised in a liberal cesspool where you don’t teach your kids that there are consequences to thier actions.
Report Post »dkhartman
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 2:54pmOK – comparing eating dog food to this is just a little off.. REALLY?? Rednecks?? Really? Because I‘m not a redneck and while this is a little bit of a weird punishment I don’t think it was harmful to the kid…. geez. I don’t care what your job is.. Especially of you‘re a person who specifically works SICK cases all the time of course you’re going to see all the negative stuff that parents do… What would you do do a kid who wrecked your vehicle? Broke a dish on purpose?? Stole money from you? Slap on the hand? Yeah you crazy yankee, that’s probably why we have the crime rate so high in this country by undiciplined brats. Because they never had to pay the consequence for their crimes as a kid…. Get over yourself…
Report Post »dkhartman
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 3:07pmundisciplined** I CAN spell
Report Post »Libertarian
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 3:58pmSheenashina1964,
Would you feel the same way about the state taking children if parents went homeless and/or lived out of a vehicle?
See there are two debates here, one is punishment and one is living conditions. If the living conditions in the shed is your objection then likewise all children not in your “standard” should be taken from their parents or guardians.
If the issue is “punishment” surely you need to stop attempting to impose your subjective parenting on the rest of society. If there is a reasonable “endangerment” to the child’s life or health then it is governments role to protect that (life, liberty\
Report Post »kontrarian
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 7:23pmAre you really in a position of authority concerning the welfare of children? You’re inability to grasp only the facts given in the article and ad hominem name-calling show a lack of restraint and deductive capacity that is shocking. I suppose ignorance, irrationality, and immaturity are job requirements for a position in a bureaucracy that is both immoral and extraconstitutional.
Report Post »OkiePatriot
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:30pmThis is just another example of the govt. over reaching into the lives of its citizens. If the boy had been in harms way I can see stepping in but he clearly wasnt. No wonder kids act the way they do today!
Report Post »countryboy42
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:30pmTo paraphrase Monty Python-”you’re lucky, we had to live in the lake.”
Report Post »TheGreyPiper
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:05pmOh, we used to =dream= of living in a lake!
Report Post »individual liberty
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 3:58pmShed….he’s lucky he had a shed. When I was young we lived in a hole in the ground covered by a piece of twig….until we were evicted and then had to go live in a lake.
Report Post »CaptGregg
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:30pmI’m often angry at government agencies that overstep their bounds in regard to how parents discipline their children, but this is a case in which their intervention seems justified.
Report Post »OkiePatriot
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:35pmHow do you feel about spanking then???
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:57pmSeems to me that the better solution would have been for the state to simply tell the Grandfather to not make the kid sleep in the shed. Taking the kids from him seems more harsh than the original infraction.
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SgtB
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:09pmIt wasn’t all too long ago in this world that children had to sleep in houses that were nothing more than a shed, or even a barn. My grandfather tells me stories about how growing up on the farm he used to wake up at 4am and go feed the cows, chickens, collect eggs, milk the milking cow, and then take a cold shower in the barn before going to school. Making a kid sleep in a shed is not child abuse. What if a parent can’t pay to keep the heat on in their house? Are you gonna steal the kids away for that too? How about houses without air conditioning. Are people without it bad parents? This is government gone too far. If the child came to school with broken bones or a black eye, then you might have a case for child protective services to step in, depending on the incident involved of course.
I would not take a child away for a black eye if for instance, the child was endangering the life of another family member and the adult reacted the quickest way that they knew how. A broken bone is takes alot more and probably isn’t something I could let go. But sleeping in a shed, sounds decent to me. Once I had to sleep in the truck. My dad still laughs about that.
Report Post »Brooke Lorren
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 2:16pmIt won‘t be too long until many of us won’t be able to afford electricity. We might as well be living in sheds. I told my daughter yesterday that when bread is $23 a loaf we’re going to be eating a lot of peanut butter sandwiches (and agave, probably, as long as our bottle of agave syrup holds out). Maybe some Top Ramen and Oatmeal on occasion too. I told her that we might not be able to afford much electricity either. Maybe one hour of TV or computer for day. Outside of that, just use it for school or work.
Hopefully, when everybody is having trouble affording food and electricity, they won’t be coming after all of our kids. Beck said that 25% of us will have trouble feeding our families when this inflation hits. CPS can’t afford to take away 25% of the kids in the country (I hope).
Report Post »REBELWITHACAUSE
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 4:04pm@ SGTB – TOO funny, but… you’re DEAD ON. The government never stops to weigh each situation to see if it really warrants them stepping in, or making matters worse in the end. What I’D like to know is… why is the grandfather raising those children in the first place? Where are the parents? What kind of people are they? I don’t blame the grandfather at all… but, maybe the kid deserves a good swift kick in the arse and maybe that‘d put a stop to whatever it is he’s doing that causes him to need disciplining. I am a firm believer in spanking, telling a kid no, and taking things away, and yes, even making them sleep outside if that’s what it takes. I’ve camped outside under the stars… I’m still alive and kicking…
Report Post »RodT82721
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:27pmWill they be going after the Boy Scouts for abusing those kids on camp-outs? Imagine, having to sleep in a shed, how horrible! Probably not even a TV to watch.
Report Post »Stevsea
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:19pmThat’s about as harmful as going camping. Lay off Big Brother!!
Report Post »biggreenboo
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:30pmYeah! And I see a mattress in the shed.
Report Post »TheGreyPiper
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:03pmI also see a lawn mower. Can you say “toxic fumes”? Or “fire hazard”?
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:15pmToxic fumes/ Fire hazzard? How often does your shed spontaneously combust? Unless the mower is actually leaking gas it probably doesn’t even smell bad. I don’t see a problem, It actually is a nice shed, looks comfy to me.
Report Post »HouseNegro
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:17pm“Well, to tell you the truth, you can’t correct kids anymore,” commented Warren. “You can’t lay a hand on one, or they go to foster people, and you’re in trouble because you did. If they could correct them like they did when we grew up, you wouldn’t have trouble.”
Amen! Could not have said it better myself.
Report Post »HouseNegro
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:28pmOMG!! Just realized we need to stage a rescue mission to save those kids from Child Protective Services. I understand they brought in Obama’s Sweet Transvestite (Sweet Transvestite) Nanny from Transsexual Indonesiaaaaaahaaaaa to watch them.
At this point I think Grandpa is a safer option…….
Report Post »LadyLiberty
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 4:58pmI agree with his sentiments but not his tactics. Forcing his grandkids to sleep in a storage shed as a punishment shows a serious streak of lazy on the grandfathers part.
Report Post »I Love Section 8 Housing
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:22pmthis old guy needs his arse whipped. dumb old coot. they should lock this guy in a sinking ship.
Report Post »SND97
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:16pmOf course the state takes kids, they have made it impossible to correct kids so that the state looks to kids like daddy sam, they have been brainwashing society for many years now to make kids think more of government than their own parents. BUT truthfully? A shed may be over doing it dude. How about grounding them to thier room for a day?
Report Post »M31Sailor
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:24pmYou either don’t have children or are lucky enough to have perfect children.
Report Post »OkiePatriot
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:33pmHow about busting thier butt…spare the rod, spoil the child…it worked on me and my sister!
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:42pmIf my son disrespects my home I make him pitch a tent in the yard and sleep out there. I only had to do it once since there is no air conditioning out there or tv or microwave, etc. As long as no harm came to the child I think it’s fine, my kid only had to do this one time, and he only has to be told once to clean his room or pick up his shoes or whatever. This is just good old country style discipline, I’m sure the kid is fine.
Report Post »CapitalistforGod
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:46pmShut up boy, and get in your shed, ya good for nuthin lazy @$$!…And I don’t wanna hear no belly achin and cryin either!!!. Don’t ya know there are kids in poor countries that would give their right arm for a comfy shed!… Huh! Huh!!!… And if ya keep quiet Ma might let ya have a bowl of broth fer supper! Now Get yer @$$ in there boy!… And shut up about ya freezin and go to sleep or ya won’t get your bowl of Grape Nuts and water in the mornin!….Now hush!!!!…. Parenting at it’s finest! LOL!!!
Report Post »Libertarian
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 12:54pmGovernment should let parents and guardians handle the discipline, there is no utopian way to save all of the children of the world. CPS will destroy liberty by micromanaging parents.
CPS is an arm of government created by soccer-moms and self absorbed, feel good politicians as a means to impose their parenting onto others.
When there is an obvious breach of an individuals right to life, it is then and only then a governments role to step in. Is sleeping in a large shed a hindrance to life? NO!
Report Post »jzs
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:15pmHe should have just locked them in a closet.
Report Post »shotgun
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:24pmLike that Grandfather said… If its tuff punishment “like when he was growing up” that makes a better person then i guess the Grandfather was not beat enuff. Maybe a good beating, a chaining to a tree, a hosing of water and about a month outside would be good for this sicko.
Report Post »RightWrite
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 2:07pmI want to hear what the Judge says. I vote in favor of the parent.
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Posted on November 10, 2010 at 2:26pmI heard they took the kids away because he was an oath-keeper
Report Post »dkhartman
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 2:43pmI’m 23. I didn’t mind my parents grounding me to my room. Now that my niece is about 13, she actually enjoys having to be grounded in her room. That means she gets to be lazy and do nothing.. So I mean there is no way I’m saying that being locked in a shed is good parenting but a room grounding? Ehh, doesn’t work worth crap..
Report Post »Marcia
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 3:15pmMy son just got custody of his VERY difficult 15yo daughter. He can’t discipline her. He is so afraid she is going to scream abuse or worse. She‘s been in and out of almost everyone’s home, but she is incorregible. He walks on eggshells when around her. It‘s a tragedy what we DON’T do to children.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 3:48pmSpare the rod and spoil the child but come on…a utility shed as punishment. I see a lawn mower so I assume their is gasoline there too. This shed looks like a fire trap. This parent has a some kind of serious problem himself. Who is the adult here?
Report Post »I Love Section 8 Housing
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:21pmThey should give this old man the electric chair and let the kid flip the switch. Then they should give the kid 5 million dollars of state money and the patent to post it notes. he deserves it for having to sleep in a shed.
Report Post »moonpeace
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 6:44pmOh, how I recall being tied to the whipping post as a young boy, whipped with a razor belt, and then sent to bed without any dinner…and that was just for talking back to mom or dad. Now today I am a serial killer, granted, but I do always respect my elders, and in fact have even slowed down with my numbers of killings. So you could say stiff discipline has worked for me.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on November 10, 2010 at 10:25pmHere’s the rules IF the child act up spank him/her if they yell abuse the state puts them in foster care see how they like that.. My kids learned early on.. I don’t care what the GOVERNMENT thinks or wants act up you get cracked.. and if you want to call the authorities fine here’s the phone.. call them.. they never did.. I REFUSED to let the government dictate how I raise MY kids.. and I REFUSED to let my kids try to blackmail me into NOT discipline them..All 3 of my kids us the same thing.. It’s time the parents took their kids BACK from the government too.. BEFORE Hilary signs a treaty that makes it an international crime to hit your kids which they really do have..the UN has been trying to have someone sign it for a few years..
Report Post »free2bme1961
Posted on November 11, 2010 at 12:01amEveryone should know, the secret to great parenting, is allowing pedophiles access to them. If the parent is a pedophile… those odds of keeping the children, are even greater.
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