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‘Great Without Religion’: Atheists Threaten Lawsuit After TX Movie Theater Allegedly Refuses to Show Secular Ad

Atheists Threaten to Sue After Angelika Film Center Refuses to Show Secular Ad

The American Humanist Association’s (AHA) legal center has sent a warning to the Angelika Film Center in Dallas, Texas, accusing the theater of violating federal law after it refused to show an advertisement from a local atheist group. The group, the Dallas-Fort-Worth Coalition of Reason (DFWCOR), a local chapter of the United Coalition of Reason, apparently attempted to buy advertising to be shown on the big screen before movies.

The advertisement, which is be a part of the secular group’s “Our Families Are Great Without Religion” campaign, is intended to portray atheist families as “normal, moral and loving.” According to a press release from the AHA, the theater initially agreed to run the ad, but later cancelled the contract.

Atheists Threaten to Sue After Angelika Film Center Refuses to Show Secular Ad

In a letter sent from Bill Burgess, an attorney with a group called the Appignani Humanist Legal Center, the theater was both warned and chastised for its alleged actions. According to the note, Angelika Film Center’s actions were conducted in violation of Title II of the federal Civil Rights Act of 1964. A portion of the letter reads:

Title II of the federal Civil Rights Act of 1964 (the “Act”) prohibits a business establishment such as the Theater from discriminating on the basis of religious views (such as atheism). Movie theaters are expressly listed among the sorts of businesses that are “places of public accommodation” subject to the Act. As a place of public accommodation, the Theater cannot lawfully refuse to do business with the Coalition on this discriminatory basis.

Please note that under the Act it is irrelevant whether your decision to refuse to do business with the Coalition was based on personal or organization animus to the atheist views of the Coalition and its proposed advertising or whether it was purely a business decision intended to avoid controversy. Courts rulings have made clear that there is no distinction under the Act between discrimination based upon personal animosity and that claimed to be purely economic (i.e. to avoid provoking the ire of customers who instead may themselves be biased against atheists); both are illegal.

Atheists Threaten to Sue After Angelika Film Center Refuses to Show Secular Ad

Burgess concluded the letter by giving the theater one week to respond. If a proper dialogue does not ensue, the note claims that legal action may be taken on the matter.

The Friendly Atheist, mirroring the AHA’s claim, also reported earlier this month that Angelika had initially agreed to show the advertisement. On Thursday afternoon, The Blaze left a message for the theater in an effort to get comments on the matter. So far, that message has not been returned.

All images are credited to the Dallas-Fort-Worth Coalition of Reason (DFWCOR).

Comments (234)

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  • Mike N
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:23pm

    We should make it a point to pi$$ them off more often to the point that they can no longer afford to bring all of these groundless suits. Run their movement out of money, I say.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:25pm

      In the end they will be crispy critters…

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    • FoxholeAtheist
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:00pm

      Looks like we beat you to it in Rhode Island. By all means, please. You will lose. If this life is earthly and ruled by what you call the Devil, it is illogical to have that mentality. I really wish your Jesus would come down and take you all away to leave the rest of us in peace.

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:09pm

      If they are so darn happy, why don’t they just shut up, live their lives, and leave everyone else alone? Sounds like they aren’t really that happy and have to try to make others unhappy. Strange people.

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:10pm

      How can atheisism be a religion when they don’t believe in anything.

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    • Cesium
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:41pm

      @FOXHOLE maybe if we can convince them that the rapture requires you to jump of a cliff! There’s gotta be a way to select out the “sheeple” brains from the gene pool. Harold Camping proves this is possible!

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    • Cesium
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:45pm

      @NH haha, it’s not a religion. It’s a bunch of people sick of having to live amongst “sheeple.” Science shows creation 6000 years ago is a myth.. Schools in the United states still want to teach that this is a history to consider as fact. Yet, for some amazing reason people on the Blaze can’t figure out why Atheists are “so angry?” How moronic can christians get? They constantly say “duhhh, well if you don’t believe in anything why do you care?” Pssst, I heard if you cut your nuts off before you have kids Jesus will come…

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    • lukerw
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:51pm

      If we do not share a common Morality… we cannot share a common Trust… and what I do Not Trust, I fear…

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    • Solaris142
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:04pm

      FoxholeAtheist

      Believers in God were here, on this planet, thousands of years before Atheists even started showing up. So ATHEISTS should leave US in peace.

      Cesium

      Science can prove a lot of things about this world that we might not know but there are other things in this world that will always confuse science and that is where Faith is required. Science can not provide an answer to every single question we have.

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    • Nehemiah6.3
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:40pm

      Abraham Lincoln said, “A house divided against itself cannot stand”. This country has so many divisions now, i cannot see its survival long term.

      Even if Atheist‘s don’t believe in God it seems hard for me to understand people who rail against teachings like, “Love your neighbor as yourself”, Thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not commit adultery, etc.
      People who are quick to anger will reap what they sow. We all have our right to choose. Why don’t we use that right to find ways to get along instead of ways to be different.

      But one thing i know, time will tell all. There is no escape from the truth.

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:54pm

      @ Fox really….what exactly do suppose the world will be like without any Christians? Here are few hints , many fewer workers, way less charity, no restraint on the banalty of human nature, the reign of all that is evil, suffering like you can hardly imagine – read tehe Book – it is all described.

      And here is the best part – if I am wrong – oh well. If I am right, I will look across the great divide at you and you will see me in paradise and you will suffer for all eternity.

      The thing is, I have nothing to lose by believing, but you have everything to lose….

      I’ll take my chances will you – really?

      When the rapture comes, and all of us Christians are gone, will you still be so convinced? When the tribulation is upon you, will you really think we Christians only believed in an “imaginary sky friend”?

      Are you even mildly doubting?

      You pick….where and with whom will you spend eternity?

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 2:24am

      Most of the people in those ads look like fruit cakes. A few are probably nice, misguided people, but most look like they’re barely contained lunatics.

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    • Gorp
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 5:09am

      “Title II of the federal Civil Rights Act of 1964 (the “Act”) prohibits a business establishment such as the Theater from discriminating on the basis of religious views (such as atheism).”

      My religion says it’s our duty to have sex with as many farm animals as possible on our holy day(which is Thursday). We’ve got to get our “Happy Family Ad” put up in that theater, and billboards across the country, and TV ads across the country.

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    • Kaoscontrol
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 3:12pm

      That’s fine GORP. Put up your ‘happy bestiality family’ ads. Just make sure none of the animals featured in the photography are atheists. come to think of it, most atheists have less intelligence than your average farm animal, so that shouldn’t be a problem.

      The fool has said in his heart “There is no God”.– Ps 14:1

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    • scienceguy
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 9:06am

      @kaydeebeau
      The thing is, I have nothing to lose by believing, ….”

      A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

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    • FoxholeAtheist
      Posted on April 29, 2012 at 6:07pm

      Imagine trying to take the family on a vacation only to have an establishment ask you to prove you are a Xtian before serving you or allowing you to stay in a hotel or a campground.

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  • Scothantlas
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:23pm

    Im sorry but atheists cannot sue someone, like a theater for not posting their ad, because of religious discrimination, Atheism is a lack of religion, you cannot claim it as a religion, in order to get legal protections and points of view held aside for actual religion! The whole argument coming from the atheists is pure b.s. that’s like a mugger trying to use anti theft laws to get away with theft! Atheism is by their own definition, a complete lack of religion, sorry you cant have it both ways. I feel the same way about atheists getting paid overtime for working during religious holidays like Christmas, to them its just a regular day, they should get regular pay. You wanna have a belief in nothing, then nothing is what you should get!

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    • ReynMansson
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:34pm

      Absence of religious beliefs, non-belief, has been given equal legal civil rights status as a religious faith through many court decisions. So there is precedent for pursuing this course of action.

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    • BigAl78
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:38pm

      Hate to break it to you buddy, but all workers reap the benefits of working on federally recognized holidays, regardless of personal beliefs. Fairness can be a real pain in the butt, huh?

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    • hatchetjob
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:07pm

      Amen Scothantlas!!! I love your comment!!!

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    • lordjosh
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:09pm

      @ Reynmannson

      No, there is no precedent. The theater can’t stop athiest from attending a movie, They don’t have to sell them advertisement if they disagree with the message.

      I would love to see and athiest owned movie theater or billboard owner being told by a church that they had to sell ad space to promote christianity!

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:54pm

      Tell me BIGAL…have you ever protested to your boss for being told that your work is recognizing a Christian holiday and that you have the day off on Christmas day?

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    • booger71
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:38pm

      Civil rights act is just one of many that needs to be struck down.

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    • Taquoshi
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:55pm

      When I worked in the nursing department of a hospital, we tried to schedule it so that those people who were observant Jews had the appropriate holy days off, Christians had Easter and Christmas off and so on. Usually there were enough staff who were happy to work Easter since it was always a Sunday and a holiday (week-end differential, night and evening differential if applicable, not to mention holiday pay if the schedule worked out right). I simply asked those who weren’t particularly interested in religious holidays if there were other significant dates such as a birthday, anniversary, 4th of July, Labor Day etc. that they would want off so I could accommodate them. Most of the time, it worked out fairly well, except when Greek Orthodox Easter, Passover and the Roman Catholic Easter all hit on the same week-end.

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    • ChristianM
      Posted on April 29, 2012 at 12:02am

      Atheism actually comes for the Greek word “atheos” which means “without god”. So atheism is not a lack of religion, it is just a lack of belief in deities.

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  • Pearsontech
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:23pm

    Hmmm now let me get this strait so the argument is this:
    The theater violated Title II of the federal Civil Rights Act of 1964 (the “Act”) prohibits a business establishment such as the Theater from discriminating on the basis of RELIGIOUS views.
    Ok Atheist don’t claim to be a religion in fact just the opposite they are the absence of religion or as their own ad puts it “families are great WITHOUT RELIGION”. So in order to argue that the theater has violated the law they are arguing that the theater discriminated against them based on their religion, but Atheism is not a religion even according to what they say. So how is it exactly that the theater discriminated against a religion that doesn’t exist??? You see the law clearly states religion NOT a belief. So in order for the theater to be actually breaking this law Atheism would need to be a religion not just a belief system. Just wanted to make sure I had that all cleared up.

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    • girlnurse
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:27pm

      Clear as mud PT!

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    • lukerw
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:05pm

      That language of the Civil Rights Act is a Clear Violation of the I Amendment of the US Constitution.

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  • girlnurse
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:19pm

    So let me get this straight.
    This humanist organization is a 5013c…so like churches they are tax exempt-
    However churches are not allowed to say anything or sway public policy, yet this Humanist organization is? Now how can that be right?
    https://secure.americanhumanist.org/sslpage.aspx?pid=296
    http://hushmoney.org/501c3-facts.htm

    HMMMMMMMMMM This is getting interesting…

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  • spirited
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:14pm

    If the theater must run the ad, –okay…fine.

    >Just follow it up with a: God gives life –life ad.

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  • naugresherdalu
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:14pm

    I wish these folks would make up their minds whether the are Secularists, a type of religeon, or Scientists. It seems they change their orientation almost daily. I guess the question is did the theater accept payment for the advertisement? If they did then they have no grounds to not show it. That is called doing business. If the theater refused to accept the money then they are not bound to present the advertisement. That’s business too. My suggestion is for the theater to post a sign very similar to the many I have seen in restaurants (they are businesses too). These signs read WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE. That statement is not racist, anti religious, anti secular or even anti scientific. It’s just good business.

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    • DetroitAtheist
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:22pm

      It’s discriminatory to secularism, therefore it’s illegal. The lawsuit will be rightfully filed.

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    • hatchetjob
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:11pm

      To DETROITATHEIST, You’re digging your own grave. It’s not too late for you to accept Jesus.

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    • DetroitAtheist
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:20pm

      I’m digging my own grave by stating the laws? Trust me, I’m much happier as an Atheist. So thanks, but no thanks to your offer.

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    • Just_Us
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:30pm

      If this case moves forward and is ruled in favor of atheists, then the reverse will be true as well. Christian advertisements will forever follow atheists around.

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    • From Virginia
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:28pm

      @Detroit – It’s a private business that can not only refuse to show advertisemens, thy canalso refuse to show movies that have been released.

      Next????

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  • The Gooch
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:08pm

    The theater allegedly never made any move to ban any group from its grounds. Is an advertisement now a right? Wacky. It appears the law addresses people, not their messages. By the rationale of the suit, if an atheist wants to disrupt a film screening with a diatribe, he or she has the “right” to do so. BS. This appears to be gross misinterpretation, but don’t let the spirit of the law stop you.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:16pm

      I have a feeling the theatre will win any law suits that may be filed. It‘s a place of business luke like any other and has the right to refuse to display material that may affect it’s business in an adverse way. If they’re not showing conventional religious ads, then unconventional religions like atheism fall under the same policy. I have a feeling there’s a lot more to this story.

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    • ReynMansson
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:21pm

      Equal access to public venue media such as the in-theater on-screen ads would be an issue under 1964 Civil Right Act. Like bus advertising, the only possible recourse is for the theater chain to refuse all religious and advocacy advertising as a bus company did. But from what I remember that sort of content runs on many TX movie screens, mega-churches and fundraising efforts that are commercial like Susan J Koman buy theater ads.

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    • troymac20
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:21pm

      Well the articles says they had a contract. If the theater is in breach of a legal contract they can certainly be sued.

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    • The Gooch
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:02pm

      Being sued for breach of contract is a far cry from a civil rights violation. The article also reads the theater cancelled the contract. Unless there was money exchanged and explicit language not honored, that seems to be just another excuse to cry “Foul!”
      As for the the “what’s good for the goose is good for the gander” argument, I don’t want any zealots or nihilists harping at me when I go to a hotel, restaurant or theater. I’ll vote with my wallet, thank you. No one is saying atheists aren’t welcome in the theater.
      I don’t equate civil rights (meant to protect INDIVIDUAL freedoms and liberties) as being applicable to the machinations of any collective entity with an ax to grind. Funny how this argument changes from moment to moment. “We don’t want collective entities recognized as having rights… unless it’s my club of malcontents in question!”
      Civil rights are meant to protect individual liberties; they should not be used as blunt instruments for what amounts to proselytizing. If atheists wanna advertise, that doesn’t mean you must submit without question. Atheists can approach who they want and spend their money for their message as they please. And people and businesses can say, “Thanks, but no thanks.”
      This is about attention. Hooray. There’s your victory, atheists. No need to be bullies. Unless your message is also that you’re tiresome, intolerant nihilists. Wouldn’t that be a surprise?

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  • girlnurse
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:07pm

    Oh so athiests want it both ways ha?

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    • DetroitAtheist
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:19pm

      What are you referring to?

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    • CapitalistUno
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:53pm

      She means that Atheists claim to have zero religious beliefs, but then expect the same treatment/benefits as religious organizations, which is very hypocritical. I also believe, as a previous post mentioned, that in the AHA’s own words on their advertisement, they are families “great without religion.” If they are without religion, then they do not deserve the same treatment as religious organizations. Do you concur DetroitAtheist?

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    • DetroitAtheist
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:58pm

      Oh yeah, I mean damn all of us for wanting equal rights.

      I notice that a lot of you stand behind this “not a religion, but want the rights of a religion” shenanigan. What gives theists more rights than non-theists? I don‘t understand where you’re getting this from. You’re no better than us, and we’re no better than you. This shouldn’t even be an issue if this company followed the laws.

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:18pm

      @ Detroit….take it up with a Higher Authority…..oh wait, you don’t believe in one…so you are confined to the whims of men…..and guess what – the whims of the theater man are no.

      How exactly do you claim “rights” if those rights are granted or meted out by mere mortal men? How are those rights then unaleinanable? What makes any mere mortal give a flip about the “rights” of another ? What is the standard to be ? How can there be a standard? Whose standard?

      Guess what, there is no standard without the Divine. Without the Divine Standard everything is leinable – based upon the prevailing winds of the times or the whims of man

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    • DetroitAtheist
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:25pm

      @KAYDEEBEAU You really do think you’re better than me.

      Okay, look.. The theater broke the law. If they didn’t break the law, nobody could file a lawsuit. Therefore, they broke the law. I’m at the “whims of man” as much as you are. I just don‘t pretend that there’s an invisible man looking at me from the clouds, watching what I do. It may feel good to you, to think someone loves you, but I don’t need that. I have enough love, and happiness in my life. I was once Christian, but the logical fallacies in the Bible were what made me take a harder look. So you see, we were once very similar. The only difference is, I never looked down on Atheists when I was christian. I value civil rights, and we should all have the same rights.

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    • FoxholeAtheist
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:02pm

      You people are the ones calling it a religion. We’re just playing by your rules.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:12pm

      Playing by our rules FOXHOLE? More accurately…you’re playing with yourselves.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:33pm

      Hey Detroit,

      I notice that you just signed up today.

      What name were you posting under last week? Your words are very familiar. Almost verbatim of other atheist names I have seen here.

      Or you all just copy your stuff from the same talking points.

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:00pm

      @ Detroit – projecting? So how do my questions lead you to the conclusion that I somehow think I am better than you? If your ideas are truely superior, how could mere questions make you feel inferiror? Defend them with logic and reason.

      Could it be that my questions actually cause you to search yourself? And you find yourself wanting against the Most High standards?

      If you have so much love in your life, why the defensiveness rather than answering my questions? If you really believe what you say you do, where is the conviction rather than defelction of your beliefs?

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    • lukerw
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:11pm

      Think of a Young Child… a mind just observing Reality, learning Knowledge, Untaught, Uneducated, in able to Conceptualize and make Experienced Choices. This Child does not have Beliefs; This Child is an Atheist. And, Atheists are Children, whom never grew up!

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    • God_Is_Not
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:18pm

      @ kaydeebeau

      You implied your morals are better because they were given to you by a divine authority (reading the Bible will show you these divine morals are relative and have changed over the years). The irony is that you then go on to demean someone who doesn’t agree with you, all while this person has been rather diplomatic about the issue. You then finish by implying that loving people can’t be defensive, which makes absolutely no sense. Why don’t you address the issue at hand and stop making ad hominem attacks? You may find the discussion much more rewarding that way.

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:40pm

      @ is not really / whoever…. so where do morals come form? Who decides what is moral?

      So because I adhere to the idea that there are really standards and that those standards come from the Divine I somehow think I am superior? Could it possibly be that the ideas concerning the Divine are superor (the Divine is superior to mere mortals) and that the Divine really is the author and perfector of standards?

      And that any deviation from the Divine standard is sin and that the realization of a sinful nature, highlights the need for the Divine intervention of a saviour – Jesus?

      Again are you projecting? Do you really only have unsupportable, “inferior” positions (again your suppositions not mine)? Why else wouldn’t you be able to provide some reasoned, logical rebuttal. If your failings deem me superior by your own default, so be it. Do I feel or think I am superior or inferior? No?

      Again, I say projection?

      If you are not going to answer my questions, don’t bother replying or commenting, Otherwise you only support your own failing argument and my assertion that you aren’t really commited to that which you spew

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:08am

      @ is not…really… that is the best you’ve got? Answer my questions? How exactly did I provide “ad hominems”? I merely asked questions. Do you have no answers? Have you or any of your trolling, athiesit, drive bys answered them? That would be a resounding – NO

      So you have furthered this discussion how? You have only supplied ad hominem talking points.

      Answer the questions or be silent – no need to broadcast to the internet world your inabilities…. just sayin’

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  • Kerstile
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:06pm

    If the theater does not wish to enter litigation (expensive), all the theater has to do is run an announcement before each and every paid ad stating that the statements/opinions in the advertisements are not necessarily the opinions of the theater owner. That Federal law requires they accept ads from anybody/everybody? The theater gets the ad revenue and there is no controversy. There are many attention seeking groups who are just bats**t crazy about their “cause”. If there is no “noise”, did it make a sound?

    Disclaimer: I don’t know if Federal Law applies here. I am not a lawyer and have no legal training. Please don’t sue me for giving my opinion. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/blogger-could-be-thrown-in-jail-for-writing-about-his-diet/

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  • I.Gaspar
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:05pm

    That last family pictured above may want to reconsider any further spawning.
    But then, who am I to tell a brother and sister to stop having children together?

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    • BigAl78
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:18pm

      Very classy. Because their daughter is obviously the deformed result of Satanic atheist inbreeding.

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    • BigAl78
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:23pm

      Very classy. Because their daughter is clearly the deformed result of Satanic atheist inbreeding.

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    • hatchetjob
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:28pm

      To I. GASPAR, Your comment is a riot!! And did you notice the fake happiness the atheists are portraying? Those smiles look like they would hurt.

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    • Rayblue
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:28pm

      The poor dog looks like it’s about to pee. Or worse.

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  • KeystoneState
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:03pm

    The “Left” in this country honestly believes that without the “Right” (normal people), America would be one big happy Sid and Marty Kroft production. Under their rule, I predict that the United States would make North Korea look like Texas within a year. Ugh.

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  • undercover
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:02pm

    Atheist web sights specifically state they are NOT a religious organization, they are in fact “NON religious”. Therefore they have no claim of action.

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    • ReynMansson
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:13pm

      The absence of religion is given equal protection as a religious belief per several court decisions

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  • tzion
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:01pm

    This case might not be as cut and dried as the majority (if not the entirety) of those we see coming from the FFRF. The fact that an agreement had been reached already does bring up the question as to why they chose to cancel it. Atheists obviously have as much right to advertise as any religious group and we all have the right to dislike it and ignore it. The best way out I can see is for the theater to state they don’t show any religious ads (assuming that they don’t for any other religion) and so it wouldn’t be discriminatory.

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  • LeadNotFollow
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:58pm

    …
    When Atheists are on their death bed, they will be begging God to save them from the dark pit of H*LL.
    Do Atheists want to take the chance, that their cries for mercy may fall on deaf ears?

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:09pm

      wow…atheists even look creepy. The forced smiles on the weird hippy family are priceless..check out the girl in the middle….yeesh.

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    • BigAl78
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:28pm

      @Avengerk.
      Wow, you speak as if atheists are a different species. And I’m pretty sure the uncomfortable smiles are just a result of taking a staged photo with your family. Have you ever looked at practically any family photo? It’s not like atheists are Satanic demons incapable of genuinely smiling.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:52pm

      Did I offend your atheist sensibilities by daring to mock your fellow atheists not unlike the manner in which your own atheist flock chooses to mock the faithful BIGAL70? You poor fragile thing. Does my mentioning the creepy look of your fellow atheists offend you? I particularly enjoyed your flaccid defense of the creeps by invoking family portraits. My favourite is the staged effort with the dachscund and the mother in clown makeup all nice and bright and cheerful…just overflowing with joy de vivre isn’t it? …gosh you atheists are so happy you could almost burst couldn’t you?

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    • DetroitAtheist
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:14pm

      “An ad hominem (Latin for “to the man” or “to the person”), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative characteristic or belief of the person supporting it.[1] Ad hominem reasoning is normally described as a logical fallacy.”

      Your arguments are lacking. Stop saying stupid things, then acting like you just won something. It’s not beneficial to anyone here.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:22pm

      But I’m not negating the truth DETROIT…the photos are indeed creepy and staged THAT’S THE TRUTH CHAMP. But you have to tell me why the Star Trek symbol DETROIT? Is it a Spock thing champ?

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    • DetroitAtheist
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:29pm

      Now you’re saying champ? I’m done with this argument with you. You have nothing worth listening to.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:45pm

      Ok…would “junior” offend you less?

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:46pm

      Come on DETROIT..why the Star Trek symbol…is it a Spock thing?

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  • AlcoholicMB
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:57pm

    More domestic terrorism conducted by atheists.

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    • DetroitAtheist
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:09pm

      Yeah, like that time we bombed all those abortion clinics.. Oh wait.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:17pm

      Or the time we took the Discovery Channel hostage in the name of Gaia?

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:20pm

      @DETROIT

      Really cool atheist logo you got there dude.

      Seriously ????????

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    • Bruce P.
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:41pm

      AVENGERK, if James Jay Lee was doing it in the name of Gaia, he wasn’t an atheist.

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    • DetroitAtheist
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:44pm

      Didn’t realize I copied someone. :\

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:04pm

      BRUCE P….really now? James Lee wasn’t an atheist?
      He stated he was an atheist in his own My Space account champ. He was a loon..but he was atheist loon doing it all in the name of saving the Earth..Gaia champ.
      Thanks for playing.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:14pm

      RIGHTSOFBILLY…doesn’t that cute little symbol our “reasoned” and independent( cough, cough) thinkers DETROIT and BRUCIE have adopted for the themselves bear a striking resemblence to the Starfleet symbol from Star Trek? Really? Trekkies?

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    • DetroitAtheist
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:18pm

      @AVENGERK, You didn’t read what he wrote. If he did something in the name of something else (in this case, Gaia), then it wasn’t related to Atheism. You can’t believe something, while not believing in anything. It’s impossible.

      Stop saying stupid things at the end of your illogical arguments. You’re not winning anything, and aren’t doing anything worth celebration. You’re skirting a response, citing the status of his myspace page, and acting victorious.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:30pm

      Hey Detroit,

      You changed your logo already?

      Wow, now it’s SUPER COOL.

      Now we know you believe in science, as well as atheism.

      Live long, and prosper.

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    • DetroitAtheist
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:43pm

      @THERIGHTSOFBILLY

      Awwww, Jesus must be so proud of how you treat other human beings! I love how you forget about the part where he says “Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins.” – 1 Peter 4:8 ESV

      Someone hasn’t been reading that bible!

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:44pm

      DETROIT..what part of JAMES LEE WAS AN ADMITTED ATHEIST is just too difficult for you to absorb champ? he admitted it on his own My Space page. He was an enviro-whacko..and a complete loon but he was an atheist enviro-whacko and complete loon. I was just reading an article today where a small child was asked “environmental” questions and lamented our own species because she’s been told we create climate change. She actually wished we didn’t exist. Her mother smiled as she said it. I guarantee you they‘re an atheist family champ because no believer would ever lament mankind’s existence. But you atheists have a great track record when it comes to devaluing humanity. Stalin’s Russia, Maoist China, Khmer Rouge..ad nauseum. All vehemently secular and humanist regimes that tolerated no religion in their societies. They’re responsible for countless hundreds of millions of deaths and incarcerations between them. Heck..China still has gulags. They’re atheist creations DETROIT. Tell me again how benign and wonderful atheism is. Please..don’t insult my intelligence by invoking the crusdes or the inquisitions. They pale next to the wholesale slaughter and indignities you atheists and your “humanist” regimes have committed on human society..and they’re all “enlightened” twentieth century creations no less.

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    • DetroitAtheist
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:11pm

      This is simple. Nobody has ever been killed in the name of Atheism.
      I’m not like some people who blame the religion for the act. You shouldn’t do it either. Just because someone says they’re an Atheist, doesn’t make them violent, or a loon, as you so eloquently put it. You’re a bigot, and you‘ve drawn your own conclusions from wherever you’re getting these answers. I’m going to do the easy thing, and stop looking for your posts.

      Bottom line, I respect the right you have to believe in whatever you want. Try to respect those who choose not to have any beliefs whatsoever. We’re all human beings, and should be treated as such.

      Have a nice day.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:22pm

      Yes DETROIT and you can’t change it..countless hundreds of millions of people have been killed and incarcerated in the name of atheism. Marxism (and it’s creation Communism) does not abide any religion they are atheist in it’s purest form. They are strictly secular. The secular regimes I offered you have been responsible for attrocities to humanity in the countless hundreds of millions. They made it imperative that no religion was to be practiced and no belief in any God preached or tolerated. They viewed religion with contempt and saw no place for it in their societies. They were and still are vehemently humanist and atheist. I find your denials hysterical. You being a “free thinker” and all..LOL.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:28pm

      But honestly DETROIT..what‘s with you and BRUCIE’s Star Trek symbol? You both being “free thinkers” and all..LOL.

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    • IDONTTHINKSO
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:46pm

      @DetroitAtheist
      We could go through all the possible translations for the above verse and could get a few different interpretation, however, I think the author was giving reference to a verse in the old testament; Proverbs 10:12 Hatred stirs up strife, But love covers all sins. So, as for atheists attacking the Christian faith through their hatred towards Christian beliefs in their religion, my question is who is stirring up the strife and who is showing the love? As you and your kind continue to try and prevent Christians to share their beliefs with others only hurts your cause and strengthens the Christians cause. The atheist stance is Christians force their beliefs on to them. If possible could you provide me with one proven case of Christianity being forced on to one of your kind? So if people believe in GOD they are wrong? But you don’t believe in GOD and you want me to be like you and tell every that my GOD is a lie and your way of life is what is right. Sadly I think the fight against Christianity is starting to crumble, it is mostly due to the fact that atheists do not have any idea who they are or what is their goal!
      Also, AVENGERK, keep up the good work!

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:49pm

      DETROITATHEIST Says:

      “@THERIGHTSOFBILLY
      Awwww, Jesus must be so proud of how you treat other human beings! I love how you forget about the part where he says “Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins.” – 1 Peter 4:8 ESV

      Someone hasn’t been reading that bible!”

      Hey Detroit,

      So now we know that in addition to science and atheism, you also are a firm believer in “Alinskyism”

      I don’t have my list handy, but I do believe that was Tactic #4 you just used on me.

      Hey, have you checked out the “A NEWS” on youtube? Lots of REALLY cool videos on their channel that I think are right up your alley Skippy. Check it out.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9KfeL8t-7c&feature=channel&list=UL

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:23pm

      Hey Detroit,

      Did you check out the link?

      Riveting……no?

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  • Blacktooth
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:57pm

    A private business has the right to choose who they accept as advertisers.

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  • HKS
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:56pm

    Those two atheist are really pushing their luck.

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  • piper60
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:56pm

    Atheism IS a religion.

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    • girlnurse
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:09pm

      That is what they are admiting now. Okay good, so they admit they are a religion? Okay… Slow and steady, this isn’t going to end well for the athiests.

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    • DetroitAtheist
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:10pm

      Oh yeah, Atheism is a religion, much like “OFF” is a TV channel.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:23pm

      @DETROIT

      Once again, I repeat myself……….

      Really cool atheist logo you got there dude.

      Oh my.

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    • girlnurse
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:25pm

      @DETROIT: Well IF the absense of religion IS a religion than I demand you stop teaching it to the kids in public schools! lol

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    • DetroitAtheist
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:48pm

      Girlnurse.. you’re just.. you just.. You don’t get it, do you? It’s okay not to get things sometimes.

      Atheism isn’t a religion. Even if it WAS (which it’s not), nobody teaches Atheism in schools. They teach science, and mathematics. They’re the facts, and “Facts are true, whether or not you believe them.” – Neil DeGrasse Tyson

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:18pm

      Absolutely atheism is a religion DETROIT.. You have your tenets and articles of faith. You have your bishops and preachers like Richard Dawkins and Carl Sagan. You have your apostates. You have your own paradise…Gaia that you hold above all humanity. You have places you’ve created to gather together and express your beliefs together in solidarity and faith. You’re quite devout. But I‘m still trying to understand why you’ve adopted the Starfleet symbol from Star Trek as your sigh of faith. You and your fellow atheist BRUCE P. Is it a Spock thing?

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:29pm

      Really DETROIT? No one’s teaching atheism? Of couse they are…they just don’t do it as a formal subject. Would you like me to give you the article about a teacher who was reprimanding his students for saying “God bless you” when someone sneezed in class? We‘re accustomed to the fragile sensibilities of atheists but apparently even little kids aren’t immune to the evangelical verve of the atheist so he had to express his offense and distaste for Christian references to his class of elementary school children. He was teaching his atheism to children in his class..whether the parents cared for it or not.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:33pm

      @AVENGERK

      And they even go to “rally’s……..for no reason”

      Oh well……..“Nothing” ventured……..“Nothing” gained.

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    • DetroitAtheist
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:37pm

      AVENGERK, I’ll listen to you when you have a valid argument, and stop worrying about petty things like my Atheist logo.

      Google is a wonderful tool. You’ll find that the star trek logo looks very different.

      Atheism has no bishops or preachers, we have no multi-million dollar churches, we have no afterlife, and we have none of those things, because we’re not trying to make anyone believe, and collect tithe. We simply do not believe. If anything, we believe in the power of free-thinking.

      You know, the opposite of the dark ages? The thing that sends men to the moon? The people who said “no, god isn’t going to help me”, so they developed germ theory? I don’t dislike religion, I dislike anti-intellectualism. They seem to go hand in hand, but not always.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:45pm

      Hey Detroit,

      Looking at your new logo……..What is the significance of the upper case letter A being scarlet in color?

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:53pm

      LOL…Free thinking DETROIT? You and BRUCIE here both used the same symbol to proclaim your atheist faith in the manner christians use a cross or jews use a star of David and you‘re really telling me you’re “free thinking” and not religious? Heck…you and Bruce are almost fundamentalists. Come on what’s with the Star Trek symbol DETROIT? Do you think you’re Spock or something?

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    • FoxholeAtheist
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:06pm

      Again, Atheism is not a religion. You call it a religion. We’re just playing by your rules that you made up since you Xtians are so good at making things up.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:10pm

      RIGHTSOFBILLY…they were moved by the spirit of Gaia to go to that rally recently. It was a miracle I tell you. I heard DETROIT was laying palm fronds on the ground as Richard Dawkins walked to the dias to speak. There Richard preached to the multitude.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:14pm

      FOXHOLE…you’re playing with yourselves sport.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:15pm

      Hey Detroit,

      I find it rather curious that you changed your logo that fast earlier today.

      So you guys are that organized that you not only have a logo, but you even have back-up logos on hand to fall back on when needed.

      And you got your own little fake news channel on youtube and everything. Is it filmed in your tree-house?

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  • freedomisasfreedomdoes
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:55pm

    when did aetheism become a religion? http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/religion

    ?a belief concerning a cause?
    ?a purpose of the universe? often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs. ???
    ?a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects?
    ?the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices?

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  • KickinBack
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:54pm

    Hmm..Looking at those ads I see…Whites, blacks, young, old…wait a minute…There are no Asians! Discrimination! They must be racist! Quick, somebody contact an asian civil rights Sharpton wannabe…Oh, that’s right, there aren’t any…but it’s still discrimination!

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    • momprayn
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:19pm

      I noticed there are no gay couples….guess they must be homophobes. LOL

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    • hatchetjob
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:34pm

      MOMPRAYIN, Good observation. Did you notice the stretched, painful smiles in the photos?

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  • Balpit
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:54pm

    Groups like the FFRF push to have religious symbols, quotes, etc. eliminated from many places.
    Now that the shoe’s on the other foot, they cry foul.

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  • THX-1138
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:53pm

    When did the phrase “My Business” cease to exist?

    Too bad these Athiests aren’t Libertarians.

    Haters always harm themselves more than the ones they attack. Karma is like that…

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  • P8riot
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:51pm

    would atheism really be a religious view – or rather a lack thereof?

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    • THX-1138
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:59pm

      It‘s a religion because it’s based on a belief, not a fact. They believe there is *no* God (Creator of the Universe) but this can never be proved or disproved as by definition an Eternal, Unchanging God would necessarily be beyond any logicical discussion (e.g. “He” could be manipulating things (us). We are too primitive to understand/perceive “Him”, etc…)

      No proof of existance is not proof of non-existance. Thus, belief, thus, religion…

      Buddhism, on the other hand… :)

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:12pm

      of course atheism is a religion. They have their tenets. Their preachers. Their apostates. Their places of gathering to share their faith and belieft..their “churches” if you will. They’re very devout.

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    • momprayn
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:22pm

      AVEN – They also “evangelize”…… in fact, that’s what this ad is.

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    • scienceguy
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 9:46am

      Are political parties religious organizations?

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  • brother_ed
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:49pm

    Since when did a private business become a publicly run company that has to cater to self-interest groups?

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  • sisserydoo
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:48pm

    Is the “friendly atheist” an oxymoron? I have met a few…but most seem angry, not friendly!

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    • KingDork
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:55pm

      yeah its an oxymoron most of them only act nice if they are the only one in a group but as soon as others show up they become frenzied. Used to have many friends that became them and act like they are going to die if they stop bashing my faith every time I was around. They are not rational beings.

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    • DetroitAtheist
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:13pm

      Lol, frenzied. I like that one. Thanks for the lulz.

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