Greece Bans Gaza Flotilla From Leaving Port
- Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:28pm by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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Activists aboard "The Audacity of Hope."
ATHENS, Greece (The Blaze/AP) — Greece on Friday banned ships heading to the Gaza Strip from leaving Greek ports, and a vessel carrying several dozen American protesters which left port without permission was ordered to return.
A flotilla of nine Greek and foreign-flagged vessels and several hundred activists have said they want to break Israel’s sea blockade and deliver aid to the Palestinian territory.
Greece’s Civil Protection Ministry said coast guard authorities had been ordered to take “all appropriate measures” to implement the ban. It also said the “broader maritime area of the eastern Mediterranean will be continuously monitored by electronic means for tracking, where applicable, the movements of the ships allegedly participating” in the flotilla.
Protest organizers said one of the boats, dubbed the Audacity of Hope and carrying several dozen Americans, had left the port of Perama near Athens Friday afternoon, but had been intercepted by coast guards on inflatable speedboats about 2 miles (3.2 kilometers) out at sea.
“We’re not moving because they put one of the (boats) in front of us, so we are stationary,” vessel spokesperson Jane Hirschmann told reporters in Athens.
The Merchant Marine Ministry refused to give any details of the incident, saying only that the protest boat had not left the “general port area.”
Two journalists embedded on the boats, however, do offer some detail. According to Phil Black, who says he’s a CNN correspondent, the boat that left port is returning after officials allegedly threatened to board the ship:
Joseph Dana, a correspondent with the liberal magazine “The Nation,” has been live tweeting the entire event. According to him, the boat is being escorted to a Coast Guard port complete with “barbed wire:”
According to him, both CNN and CBS captured the incident on video.
The New York Times offers more details regarding the moment the American ship was stopped:
After chasing them down, a smiling, youthful coast guard captain leaned out his window and requested the ship’s inspection papers. Passengers leaned over the upper-deck railing of the American boat, chanting, “Let us sail to Gaza!” Others held a cardboard sign asking, “Is it Poseidon or Netanyahu?” (That is, a passenger explained, “Who is the king of the Aegean?”)
Head protest organizer Vangelis Pissias angrily condemned the ban and argued Greece had no legal grounds to block a privately leased ship from leaving one of its ports.
“We condemn the policy of the Greek government and its last actions … The efforts to sail will continue,” Pissias said.
A Greek government official said the boat had set sail without the permission required of all boats to leave port, and that the Coast Guard had asked it to return. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the situation was still evolving.
Israel has said it will thwart any effort to breach the sea blockade of Gaza, which was imposed on the Palestinian territory after Hamas militants overran it in 2007.
An Israeli raid on a similar flotilla last year killed nine activists on a Turkish ship and each side blamed the other for the violence.
On Thursday, an Irish ship, the MV Saoirse at the Turkish coastal town of Gocek, said it had to abandon plans to set sail because of what it called Israeli sabotage. Earlier this week, activists said Israeli agents damaged the propeller of a Swedish ship in the Greek port. Israel has refused AP requests for comment on the allegations.
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Elena Becatoros in Athens and Darko Bandic in Perama contributed.
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Comments (364)
leary1
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:49pmI greatly respect and commend Greece for their actions. Greece is most likely saving lives, injury and possible war. The flotilla is a floating can of trouble. The people of Palistine don`t need outside help, they need to remedy their own problems without outside intervention. If Israel is forced to stop these ships, I hope they make an example out of these radical troublemakers. Personally , I feel if Israel is threatened by these ships, they should sink them all. That would create an artificial reef which would be good for the fish, and a monument to Israel`s military power. It would also help to feed the fish. This flotilla`s agenda will endanger Israel even more. GOD BLESS ISRAEL
Report Post »dizzyinthedark
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:47pmNow this is how you stand up to those inciting nothing but violence and no good!! Greece has a spine!! Love them!!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:46pmBring back the Reply button so people can Reply to others. Get rid of who ever changed the format.
Report Post »+1
momprayn
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:45pmGod bless you Greece!!! (for He will for this) I know you’re having some bad times over there, but by helping Israel, you’ll be blessed somehow sooner or later. Sorry can’t say the same for us with this fraudulent, treasonous administration. Speaking of fraudulent, latest article re the book/“irrefutable” proofs that Obama’s birth certificate they put out is, indeed, a fraud and of course it’s being ignored and nothing being done. If you agree after reading, please spread the word about it and contact Boehner, your Reps. to at LEAST call for an investigation!!! If true, it’s the greatest fraud against the U.S. in history and 100 times worse than “Watergate”. Think they’re all intimidated again. But if this turns out to be true, can you imagine the backlash???!!!!! This is via World Net/NY Daily:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=317353
Report Post »chips1
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:44pmWe have problems with Grease also. Close the border.
Report Post »JohnGalt
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:57pmexcerpt from the article; “On Thursday, an Irish ship, the MV Saoirse at the Turkish coastal town of Gocek, said it had to abandon plans to set sail because of what it called Israeli sabotage. Earlier this week, activists said Israeli agents damaged the propeller of a Swedish ship in the Greek port. Israel has refused AP requests for comment on the allegations.”
Yes if Israeli’s sabotaged you, they were preventing you guys from getting killed, I would say they were very kind to you!
Report Post »starchy
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:44pmVery Promising – even while it’s country is on fire, Greece is making a stand for Israel. We can only hope other countries will follow suit.
Report Post »W@nd@
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 3:40pmGo Greeks
Report Post »Don’t know why you did it
but you are doing the right thing
whatever your reason!
SUEB
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 9:52pmDon’t hold your breath.
Go Greece, God be with you and Israel.
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on July 2, 2011 at 10:29amThank you Greece!!!!!
Report Post »57states
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:44pmliberal jews who are anti jew! mmm!
Report Post »beckwasfox
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 3:12pmIt is quite telling that the Jews who are anti-Jew are liberals. The Christians that are anti-Bible are liberals. Americans that are anti-American are liberals. The living that are anti-life are liberals…
Report Post »Endeavour
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 3:44pmTheir are many Jews that hate Israel, those are the ones that voted for that Muslim we have in office now. Jewish is your birth blood, not your religion. Israel is the manifestation of Freedom for anyone, Christian, Jew and Muslim alike. Beautiful thing they have done in the ME. Many so called Americans are Communist Marxist SOB’s that truly hate America, it is a place of birth. Religion, nationality, ethnicity are mixed up so many times to confuse issues.
Report Post »If Israel falls, America will also. Let us pray for them as we do ourselves. Hate knows no boundaries or color. I do not hate Islam but I would deal with them on terms they can understand.
Micmac
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:43pmIt appears REPLY is not working on all threads.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:48pmKeep trying!
Report Post »Vital
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 7:33pmThe reply is working
Report Post »curleyfry
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:43pmWow! A country with guts. Go Greece!!!
Report Post »I’m with you Israel!!!
Erabin
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:11pmI can‘t understand why you’d be with Israel since they’re not with us. Seriously. How does Israel help us in any way? How is it an ally at all? We give all we can, they only do anything if it suits them. Their prime minister literally said that America consists of gullible fools who are easily moved. Their spy attacks are usually ranked second most dangerous to the USA on the annual FBI report, second only to China.
They are an ally how again?
Report Post »JohnGalt
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 4:31pmCan you prove what your saying?
Report Post »candcantiques
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:42pmI am so dissapointed. I was hoping to watch the videos of the ships exploding !!! ; )
Report Post »Rayblue
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:42pmVangelis Pissass……perfect.
Report Post »Tells the story right there.
papa2thdoc
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 5:38pmCorrection:It’s PissyAss
Report Post »cookcountypatriot
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:40pmegggselent….egggselent
Report Post »Supercalafragalisticexpialidotious
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 11:38pmEggxactly :D
Report Post »Da Kingfish
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:40pmNo doubt MONICNE, or monostat, or vagisil or whoever he aspires to be was on board, stiring the pot.
Report Post »Jabber
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:10pmSnort! Love this response Kingfish
Report Post »streetrodder
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 3:38pmDon’t forget Encinom, Monicne backwards, he’s clever.
Report Post »rienheart
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:39pmBring back the Reply button so people can Reply to others. Get rid of who ever changed the format.
Report Post »Tayper
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:32pmI have reply buttons on ever post?
Report Post »Smug
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 4:22pmI agree with RIENHEART bring back the REPLY. This stinks our replies get lost and you don‘t know who’s referring to what………..MSSMUG
Report Post »jemcc4
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 8:56pmSeems to be working now for me..
Report Post »jemcc4
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 9:01pmnevermind
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:38pmThe Jihad flotilla should be sunk.
Report Post »michael8506
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:38pmThis isn’t about delivering aid as much as breaking the blockade. They can deliver the aid without breaking the blockade by going through the normal channels. This is about starting a war and having the justification to do so.
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:38pmMichael i agree with you on that,and those Americans on board are trouble makers
Report Post »shofar
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 7:58pm@ michael8506 – You are dead on correct. Israel has repeatedly said that any “humanitarian aid” would not be stopped provided that, said aid, was screened by the Israeli government. The ONLY purpose of this “Aid Flotilla” is to spark an international incident, and a shooting war.
If we had ANYONE in Washington with even the slightest bit of testosterone in their system they would tell these people to knock it off. But we don’t! We have cowards in all points of leadership, Dem and GOP. If all hell does break loose, and it will, we will have another undeclared war on our hands. Only question now is who side will we be on.
Report Post »Obama Snake Oil Co
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:37pmPlease don’t call any on board the ship activist and American in the same statement. No American could be that stupid….
Report Post »kameo
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 4:04pm@BO SnakeOilCo…Ahh, but there are Americans that stupid…here they are: so-called Veterans for Peace – members, retired Colonel Ann Wright; former CIA analyst, Ray McGovern; retired Marine Corps Major, Ken Mayers; Nic Abramson and Hedy Epstein, an Honorary VFP member and 87 year-old Holocaust survivor. Other U.S. passengers include Alice Walker, and two time Nobel Peace Prize nominee, Kathy Kelly. (About 25% of the passengers are Jewish. Doesn’t make sense, does it?)
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 5:22pmThey aren’t Americans. They’re progressive/marxists who happen to be living in this country.
Report Post »EP46
Posted on July 2, 2011 at 4:21am@SNAKE I know what you mean, but….with Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dorn, Code Pink, U.S. Media…all part of this..it makes it LOOK like America is supporting this. Media used as shields, same as women and children are used by the same people supporting this ATTACK on Israel. THANK YOU GREECE,
Report Post »ohyaok
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:37pmWho’s brilliant idea to not allow responding to other peoples comments, must be liberal, they don’t want their nonsence challenged.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:47pm@ohyaok
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:37pm
Who’s brilliant idea to not allow responding to other peoples comments, must be liberal, they don’t want their nonsence challenged.
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An IT friend of mine said that this site has some problems. You just have to ensure that the reply box indidates the name you’re replying to, instead of just telling you to “speak your mind.”
Requires come extra clicking, but you can do it. I have faith in you! ♥ {toothy grin}
Report Post »BlueStrat
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:12pmThat’s strange. Maybe they fixed it. There’s a “Reply” button under each post as of the time of this post.
Now that I clicked “Reply” to your post, I’m typing in a text box with “BlueStrat, Leave A Reply to Showtime” at the top with some TOS and policy notes.
Maybe try checking your javascript settings for this domain/site and then refreshing the page?
More on-topic, I’m delighted by the action taken by Greece, but it’s sure to be short-lived. Greece will have to allow them to leave sometime or other. I’m sure the Hamas-friendly and Israel-hostile UN, through the IMF, will apply pressure to Greece to allow the hate-flotilla to leave port. Gotta keep the international Progressive-led, Jew-hatred and bigotry on schedule, ya know. Hatred is most potent and virulent when fresh & hot off the boat, so to speak.
Report Post »atechgeek
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:52pmLet them go and see how long they last in the Arab nations before their heads are cut off.
Report Post »brotherjohn
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:18pmProbably because many times, trolls post a new venom filled thread as a response which will not allow others to respond to them.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 4:28pmI can comment. Not sure what you are whining about.
Way to go, Greece! There is HOPE FOR GREECE!!
May God bless the people of Greece and help them to be safe and help them get through their financial crisis.
Report Post »ArizonaMom3
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 11:15pmjust need to sign in and you can respond
Report Post »georgeisn6
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:36pmGreeks should pull the plug on them, like a bath tub.
Report Post »rienheart
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:36pmSome Sanity is Present. If those ships sail, chances are they will be diving destinations for scuba tourists in the Med.
Report Post »FREDD The WILSON
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:33pmOh Boy!
Get ready for the Rose Ellen assault vehicle headed to this post.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:38pmWho reads her stuff anyway?? It’s the same ole blaa blaa blaaa……
Report Post »Jabber
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:13pmFredd-
Report Post »I can hear her coming now……keyboard blazing….all regard for punctuation, grammar and reason tossed aside with violent passion…..
MIBUGNU2
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:47pmLibos ‘In Your Face” doesn’t always work, Good call, Greece..
Report Post »There are people in this World that won’t put up with their
Bullshi** !!
I.Gaspar
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:32pm“Delivering aid”…yeah, sure.
Report Post »Israel, blow them out of the water.
Truthbeliever2
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:50pmI second the motion.
Report Post »Erabin
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:07pmBuilding materials and medicine? Pshaw! Why would the Palestinians want to live in houses or receive medical treatment? They’re not even human after all.
Report Post »Buttercup
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 3:31pmErabin, you at it again? I’m assuming your post is meant in sarcasm.
Report Post »Trenaway
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 4:21pmHell yea!!
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 4:51pmHey, this wasn’t about what was right – Greece found out that the captian and crew were non union. As soon as they are replaced by union folks the ship can continue.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:32pmWay to go Greece!
Report Post »Jediusetheforce
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:46pmYeah Baby!!! Send them back to the U.S., their holes are dug already.
Report Post »thinkinghuman
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:55pmThat looks like one of those PIRATE SHIPS!!
Report Post »ICEDRAGONNITE
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 3:36pmHow long?
Report Post »dscon
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 3:41pmfor probably only a while unfortunately.
’till the next people in the chain become enlightened.
I HOPE.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 6:32pmNot so fast! Maybe Greece is not so stupid. They can use this crisis to their advantage. Watch and see my friend..watch and see.
Report Post »Micmac
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:31pmCajones!!
Report Post »OUTRIDER WRITER
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:01pm@MicMac who writes “Cajones”
Report Post »…..
Yep, and Greece clearly has the “audacity” to prove that, while their country burns to the ground, they still have a pair.
pavepaws
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 3:06pmΕυχαριστούμε
Report Post »lovenfl3
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:30pmWay to go Greece! You have to love the name of the ship. The Audacity of Hope. If we still had a real media, there would be a lot of questions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_68oow06Nw
Report Post »IDareYa72
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:35pmWhat do u know.. not all news is bad… Way to stand with courage Greece!!
Report Post »TaterSalad
Posted on July 2, 2011 at 9:19pmThe real reason why the flotilla was not let to sail:
http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2011/07/02/ah-hah-now-we-know-why-greece-is-stopping-the-jew-haters-boats-to-gaza/
Report Post »hersey10
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:37pmIf Greece has no legal grounds to stop them , what legal grounds do these maggots have to break the Israel blockade ?
Report Post »freedom4ever
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 3:44pmexcellent question! but as libs they can do whatever they want – they don’t follow the rules they make them up as they go!
Report Post »a true texan
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 11:14pmWell said!
Report Post »saneasylum
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:40pmGlad to see Greece standing up… they know it could be a history changing event if that flotilla makes it to Palestine!
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:44pmThe appropriately named Pissias has got to be fuming.
Report Post »Too bad, anti-semites, not today.
bcwoodz
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:53pmSeriously, it’s unbelievable what they do in plain sight and the liberal media just ignores it.
Report Post »JohnGalt
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:54pmUnbelievable, Greece with all that it’s going through, has the common sense and guts to know whats right and say so. Well done Greece, well done indeed!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:54pmFinally someone standing up to these terrorists .. thank you Greece. Now if they don’t bend to pressure from the White House … we have someone who will stand with those who “stand with Israel”.
I STAND WITH ISRAEL.
TEA!
Report Post »booger71
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:23pmCatB
Me too but the Blaze will not let me talk directly to you
Report Post »Bear
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:56pmLets see if Saturday Night Live makes fun of the Ships name,,,,,That’s Hilarious! Funny to see the Agitators of peace get shut down cold,,,when they have been so used to getting their way! What a bunch of Stupid,Liberal,Hippie Morons!
Report Post »LAM2
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:01pmWay to go, Greece. The Audacity of Hope? More like the Audacity of Dopes.
Report Post »Ari Ben TZion
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:07pmSo, that’s what a boat full of L.I.C.E I.N.F.E.C.T.E.D farm animals looked like.
Report Post »HUGGINGMYBABIES
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:08pmWTG Greece! I’m sure the unidentified government official will now be strong armed by Hammas and will eventually retract the hold on the ship…….bet my last drachma on that one.
Report Post »TGooberPea
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:22pmteehee, what a name for the flotilla director… V@gin@less Pissi-a$$
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:24pmRight On!!! Why is no one talking about the name of the ship????
Report Post »does this burka make me look fat?
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 5:22pmI did!! Just a few entries above!!
Report Post »JRook
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:27pm“A Greek government official said the boat had set sail without the permission required of all boats to leave port, and that the Coast Guard had asked it to return. ” sounds similar to the juvenile trumped up clinic regulations created in Kansas to close abortion clinics. Nothing better than law biding conservative Christians.
Report Post »BeingThere
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:47pmThat’s right! Way to go Greece!!!! I love it!!! It’s for their own safety (as if I care) because Israel will probably just blow them out of the water. You know, “responsibility to protect” and all that BS! LOL
Report Post »Mhockey1505
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:48pmHoly cow they did something right…
I knew those euro trash were good for something. But they probably just disqualified themselves from any further Obama bailouts
Report Post »thinkinghuman
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:54pmOBAMA writes a book and now this boat piggy backs on that. Did Obama do this?
Report Post »bestartist
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 3:39pmWow! Great News!!!!
Report Post »stephenb.net
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 3:44pmI wonder if Greece will board and inspect the cargo to ensure that no weapons are on board hidden under medical supplies or food and clothing.
Report Post »Rogue
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 3:59pmHmmm… if they have nothing to hide on the aid ships, why not just let the authorities board? They may just end up stuck in Greece if they refuse to let the Coast Guard board and inspect them.
What a shame – they will have to find another way to get weapons to Hamas.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 4:02pmGOOD for Greece!!!! Saving lives and preventing WAR!!
Report Post »Citizen7154
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 4:24pmThankfully… at least the Greek government can still afford a Coast Guard.
Report Post »Thomas
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 4:48pmGreece might just make a come back.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 4:56pmYes, the Greeks actually used their cautious friendship with us to do some good for a change. It’s off to a local Greek restaurant tonight to celebrate and ask the owners to thank their people back home.
Time for a Real Leader…
Report Post »http://www.AMillionGoWest.com
Tired of Idiotic Comments
Posted on July 2, 2011 at 2:36pmI’m going to rethink my concerns about going on a summer cruise to the Greek Isles. Go Greece; you have my thanks and support.
Report Post »butler180
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 5:02pmThe reason for the name – sponsored by the Obama Administration & supporters
Report Post »Wayner
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 5:08pmHow about we send the money we give to Zimbabwe and Egypt to Greece??
Report Post »Finger Follie
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 5:19pmGreece is being a better ally to Israel than the U.S.
Report Post »DSTSS2010
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 5:32pmThe ship should have been named “The Audacity of Dopes”!
Report Post »toto
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 5:58pmHooray for Greece!
Report Post »oriondma05
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 7:24pmAwesome! Way to go Greece. No send us some gyros for all that money we gave you.
Report Post »Hula Calhoun
Posted on July 1, 2011 at 11:05pmI’d call it “The Audacity of Dopes.”
Report Post »13.1
Posted on July 2, 2011 at 7:36amYeah, thank goodness they have common sense!
Report Post »vincere vel mori
Posted on July 2, 2011 at 1:16pmYeah, we are off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of gazz.Its going to be the best hate boat yet.
Report Post »Tired of Idiotic Comments
Posted on July 2, 2011 at 2:34pm“The Audacity of Hope”……………………Isn’t that the name of an anti-American activist?
Report Post »Rightsofman
Posted on July 2, 2011 at 5:14pmAnyone have a torpedo?
Report Post »Teaparty-grammy
Posted on July 3, 2011 at 1:28amI doubt if you will see this in any other media–unless they want to screech at the Greeks for “daring” to interfere with this “humanitarian mission”. Hooray for the Greeks for having the courage to stand up against this Progressive BS.
I have the AUDACITY to HOPE that maybe common sense is beginning to turn the tide against all this Progressive idiocy!
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