Greece Proposes Border Fence to Stem Tide of Illegal Immigrants; EU Says Not So Fast
- Posted on January 4, 2011 at 4:43pm by
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Greece has decided to build a 12-kilometer fence along its border with neighboring Turkey — an attempt to curb illegal immigration into the European Union.
According to Greece, the influx of immigrants has taken a burdensome toll on the country’s economy. Greek Public Order Minister Christos Papoutsis announced the decision, calling it a “necessary” step as the country “can no longer tolerate such high numbers” of illegal immigrants.
The proposed fence will be built in one of the busiest thoroughfares for illegal traffic, along the country’s only overland border with Turkey. According to the European Union border control agency Frontex, in October 2010, this area saw an average of 245 people illegally crossing into Greece every day. The other areas of the Greece-Turkey border are covered by a river where illegal migrants usually cross into the country on inflatable boats.
The Communist Party of Greece has joined international humanitarian groups in denouncing the measure, calling it “barbaric.” Activists also have expressed concern that the fence will prohibit asylum seekers and others looking for safety.
The proposed border fence is a “strong measure,” says Kalliopi Stefanaki, the UNHCR protection officer for Greece, but every country has a right to protect its own borders, she says.
“We agree that Greece in entitled to enhance security at its borders in any way it sees fit,” she said. “What we are concerned about is that the rights of those who want to cross this, or any other border, to request protection are protected.”
Meanwhile, the European Union has approved the border fence as a “short-term measure,” but is dismissing plans for a permanent fence:
An estimated 90 percent of all illegal immigrants who enter the European Union do so through Greece.
Daniel Esdras, the head of the Greek office for the International Organization for Migration, says the border is not Greece’s to protect. “The idea of building more walls around a Fortress Europe is outdated,” he says. “These are not just Greece’s borders, but also those of the European Union. And people will carry on trying to reach a better life unless conditions in their home countries are improved. This is something governments should together be focusing on.”
No official timeline on the border fence‘s construction has been given and Greece’s Public Order Ministry says the proposal is still at an initial stage.
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Comments (62)
capitalismrocks
Posted on January 5, 2011 at 12:03amOf course the moronic Commies would call a country protecting its border from illegal incursion and its countries attempt to curb the mis-use and misappropriation of resources by those who are not legally contributing into the country or being a productive part of it…
This from the Commies who shot and killed anyone sneaking into their countries or trying to flee their countries…
For all those ignorant little 20 somethings out there who weren’t around to watch live news broadcasts of Germans trying to flee Soviet occupied Eastern Germany to make it to the free part of Germany and the freedoms from Communist oppression….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwQsTzGkbiY
Escaping Communist North Korea…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsrBBJTXnsU
Another product of Communism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAQE7kDwPZY
If you thought the Nazi’s were brutal killers, the Soviets made them look like amateurs…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GTVV6XHfP4
So all you young, naive kiddies out there who are remotely buying into this whole “revolution” nonsense, that “I collect baseball cards and I’m a Communist” crap and the other nonsense being shoveled around like cow s**t, understand that when ALL of these communist countries first started out, it was all the same way…. people offering you everything your heart desired – Justice, Equality, Hope, Change, and so on….
EVERY and I mean EVERY one of these countries, in the end delivered on their promises, but their vision of
Justice – meant that those who obeyed, could live – that was their justice.
Equality – everyone would be poor, they got what they wanted.
Hope – you could hope all you wanted, you’d get nothing for it, but you could hope all you wanted.
Change – oh, you got your change alright, everything changed, just not the way you were conned into thinking it was supposed to change.
So if you actually think, working a low pay starter job and having to work your way up, earn your way up and strive for what you want isn’t fair, then Communism is for you: You work or your killed.
You want Equality – you think you should make a six figure salary right out of high school, get a car, fully paid college, charge up credit cards and not have to pay — Communism is for you – you‘ll be equal because you’ll have nothing like everyone else, you’ll go to the same substandard school like all others, same substandard healthcare, same poor existence and life – enjoy! You get what you want.
So before you jump onto the “Revolution” bandwagon, go read up on the decades of chumps before you who all did the same thing, all fought against business, the govt, the hardworkers…. caused chaos and destruction because they all wanted a change, they wanted more…. go read up on every one of those “Revolutions” and see the pathetic misery those “Revolutionaries” and their descendants are now living in.
You want a Revolution, its not about taking to the streets, setting fires, breaking windows and causing chaos… its about looking in the mirror and looking at your self and having a personal revolution – a personal revelation – time for change is within yourself. If want more? Then work harder, can’t go to college, you may have to put off a year, two, or more. Take a few classes here and there, work in entry level positions in the field you want to become your career and get some basic exposure and hands on experience. Instead of looking to buy the latest cellphone, ipad or Xbox, maybe you look to squirrel away that cash or buy some books and do some self-study courses…
Make your own destiny and stop following the fools that think chaos will actually make things better, it only destroys people, lives and futures…
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 11:55pmWell, doesn’t that make them racist against the Turks?
Report Post »spreadcommonsensenot pc
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 11:47pmClinton signed on the the UN charter———borderless countries
Report Post »the UN charter NOW trumps the US Constitution——–welcome to the NWO,
you can bitch and moan all you want about the US govt not doing enough about our borders–NOTHING WILL HAPPEN—–MAJOR ECONOMIC REPERCUSSIONS WILL TAKE PLACE—-AGAINST AMERICA
if borders are enforced……………by the “world Govt/International court” hovering behind the curtain.
S_Malc13
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 11:08pmNever join a union.
Report Post »GEW
Posted on January 5, 2011 at 12:22amNow this is the funnest remark here…and I think most have missed it. TKS
Report Post »Alphonso
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 11:01pmWow, I didn’t know the Greeks were racists too…
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 10:37pmInteresting how the communists in Europe, along with humanitarian groups (more communists) are against the fence. And Greece finally admits that part of its economic problems stem from illegal immigration. Well, the same could be said here in the USA. Democrats and humanitarian groups (communists lite) ALSO hate the idea of a fence EVEN THOUGH our economic woes, some at least, can also be traced back to ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. The crap needs to be fixed pronto!
Report Post »scguitar
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 10:33pmDear Greece, If you’re going to build a fence, make sure you actually complete it and make sure it is properly secure with guards, barbed wires, and maybe even make it electric. I wish I could do the same but I’m run by a bunch of bumbling idiots who want a borderless society. Sincerely, America
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 10:09pmThe United States has been condemned by the U.N. in the past for trying to block it’s borders. The U.N. considers it a human rights violation. Unfortunately for us, so do many progressives.
Report Post »spirited
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 9:25pmHow’s that one world thing work?
>This land is your land, this land is my land
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 9:45pmRead the Earth Charter
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 9:13pmBarack Obama‘s ’Trusted traveler plan is probably another way to help erase the border’s here .
Report Post »powhatan
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 9:08pmNo more un!!!
Report Post »troyvar
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 9:08pmLet’s see, from Turkey to Greece (and the EU). Muslims? Are they taking the jobs that the Greeks won’t do? Are they assimilating into the new culture, are they looking for religious freedom, or looking to impose a religion that they already adhere to? Questions need to be answered and the pc BS needs to stop…
Report Post »mrmikejohnson
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 9:06pmWorld socialism is the purist form of evil the world has ever known.
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 9:44pmislam beats it… it‘s going to do what the marxists couldn’t… that’s why the muslims are free flowing into the West…
The OIC runs the UN currently…
Report Post »chickenlittle
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 8:53pm245 illegals a day????????? And that’s enough to burden their economy??? AZ gets that every hour (at least), and demidiots say it’s no strain at all!
Report Post »pamela kay
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 8:11pmWhat right does anyone have to tell any country that they can not protect their borders? Obviously the economic strain of illegals is a problem everywhere. I am not a fan of Greece but watching the problems that the progressives have caused there should set off a red flagg to our nation. Free handouts can not continue without collasping an economy, illegal entry into countries are a financial burden to it’s citizens, and government control does not work. People here need to pay close attention to Greece and the UK. If allowed the progressives will take this country down as well.
Report Post »Eyeball
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 8:03pmIt looks like Greece sold it sovereignty when it joined the EU. So sorry. They are under the EU’s socialist thumb now. Yep, they sold their souls to the devil.
Report Post »BoilitDown
Posted on January 5, 2011 at 12:13am@Eyeball
Report Post »“sold their sovereignty” exactly right. Those that wrote so passionately to dissuade the nations of Europe away from the EU can have the sad satisfaction that they were precisely correct in their predictions.
I must ask for forgiveness for laughing at the delicious irony of their border fence.
angroehl
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 8:01pmOh but we can’t have our borders?!?!
Report Post »mcpbob
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 7:55pmdon’t worry, it will catch on everywhere
Report Post »Joe PA
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 7:53pmWere the usual suspects bleating about the Sviet era borders? Oh right , they were there to keep the West out.
Report Post »ThomasUSA
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 7:52pmThe 21st century will be an “interesting” one… Just look at all that happened in the last one.
Report Post »GeauxAlready
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 7:51pmIs the pot calling itself black or is the kettle calling the pot black. This is so confusing……………..
Report Post »chips1
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 10:22pmThe EU just wants to “Grease” their machine.
Report Post »Quad-rip-legic
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 7:47pmApparently Greece needs immigrants to fill the jobs just like we do here in America.
Report Post »Curator_JDR
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 7:55pmMaybe they don’t want Muslims. Who would flee to Greece?
Report Post »WHITE LOTUS2x
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 7:44pmSound familiar?
Report Post »Curator_JDR
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 7:54pmHA. There is an evil cabal that thinks they will run the world. Progressive-EU. they are the same people. This hilarious animated short feature exposes the insanity of the Progressives with BIG TIME HUMOR.
Report Post »A “Not So Grimm Fairy Tale” is the first film to adapt “Avatar” for comedy.An instant classic. http://www.marcrubin.com/hairmerica.ivnu
untameable-kate
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 7:44pmAH ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!
Report Post »Love always,
Arizona.
Armed Patriot
Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:56am@untameable-kate
Thats gotta be your best post yet… My sentiments exactly…
Sincerely,
Report Post »Peoplez Republik of Kalifornia
ZeitgeistBuster
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 7:17amLooks like King Leonidas and his 300 Spartans were not heroes but a renegade band of bigots! Who were they to stand in the way of the Persians and deny them their human rights!?
It looks like modern day Thermopylae is the State of Arizona, and our modern day King Leonidas is Govenor Jan Brewer.
Isn’t history fun?
Report Post »The Oven
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 7:43pmGreece is still around?
Report Post »mtnclimberjim
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 8:05pmWatch all the terrorist attacks hit them now. I guarantee you that if the mexicans were muslim , our borders would be closed.
Report Post »TruthTalker
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 8:12pmThis is SPARTA!
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 8:15pmHow ridiculous! Greece will decay into oblivion because it‘s EU masters won’t honor Greece’s sovereignty for fear of offending illegal innigrants……somehow, it kinda feels familiar…..oh, that’s right! Our Progressive masters in the government won’t honor our sovereignty either…..our communist leaders also feel that border security is “barbaric”……guess I better get ready for some Molotov cocktails comin’ my way pretty soon……
Report Post »Major Infidel
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 8:23pmAccording to the EU, Greece was no longer around, as soon as they pledged allegience. This is why we need to remove ourselves from the UN and be fearful of one world government ideas.
Report Post »Cemoto78
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 8:51pm“We agree that Greece (America) is entitled to enhance security at its borders in any way it sees fit,” she said. “What we are concerned about is that the rights of those who want to cross this, or any other border, to request protection are protected.”
Report Post »Once you sell your country out to the new world order this is what happens, the elites from the other countries begin to dictate what you can or cannot do. I agree with the other poster who says it’s time to get out of the UN, the World Bank, etc.
grandmaof5
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 8:56pmTell them not to call Obama or Janet Napolitano for advice or the fence will never get built (not excusing Bush, either). Good luck.
Report Post »oldoldtimer
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 9:02pmNext big push. Eliminate all borders from all countries. Easiest way to a one world dictator.
Report Post »HairRazor
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 9:04pmYou’re right Major. It’s time to let our UN membership expire and tell those ungrateful slugs to stay out of the USA.
Report Post »Sledgehammer
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 9:13pmBig O, your most likely going to hate me! ( I hope not) But we need Greece to not only survive, but go on to show the E.U. what needs to be done! They’re idea, in the worst way possible, but if they can pull it off ( and they can) it would be a third front not only to the progressives, but to the islamonuts jobs!
Report Post »Xcori8r
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 10:05pmThey could convert the Acropolis to project housing and put Turks there if they promise not to trash it the way they did the last couple times they stayed there.
Report Post »PeachyinGA
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 10:11pm@Major Infidel – these were my thoughts exactly! Our own Mexican/American border fence will soon need approval from the ‘one-world order’ – Americans will no longer be in control of such ‘international’ decisions. My world is upside-down!
Report Post »shorthanded12
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 10:40pmOMG chastise Greece for wanting to proteck and secure there borders, Not a fan of the Nanny State of Greece but this is a global problem with alot of countries and illeagals. I was Stationed in Germany in the 80′s and majority of the germans I knew hated the Turks that came to there country and was given handouts from the German government. Countrys Like us (USA) Germany, Canada could be the leaders of the world if they shut the flow off comepletey of illeagals. The United States has roughly 1,000,000 illeagals flowing into this country every year with the majority coming from Mexico and Latin American countrys. Its time the Federal Government do away with the border guards and put the Military in charge PERIOD!!!!!!
Report Post »AngryMobOfOne
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 11:36pmWow, spooky. It’s almost like THEIR commies are talking to OUR commies. Like a coordinated attack on multiple western economies simultaneously using the exact same tactics.
Naaah. Couldn’t be. That’s just crazy talk. Back to the Simpsons.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on January 5, 2011 at 7:44amPolitical dogma trumps common sense once again. Anyone with an ounce of sense knows that Greece is headed for the dumpster and yet their UN masters tell them to spend more on illegals. Sounds to me like the UN WANTS Greece to implode.
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