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Guess What: ‘The Cloward-Piven Strategy Working Perfectly — in Europe’

If you follow Glenn Beck, you know who Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven are. They are the dynamic teaching duo who championed the revolutionary idea of restarting the U.S. economy by collapsing the system and remaking it into one more favorable to the unions and socialist ideals. And that’s done by getting as many people on public assistance as possible.

Now, intrepid blogger Zombie is out with a new piece detailing how that “Cloward-Piven“ strategy is ”working perfectly” across the pond.

Zombie points to the weekend’s big news from Europe: the French elected an avowed Socialist, and the Greeks sent a strong signal by voting against the parties that supported austerity (even the Socialists) and then voted in droves for a “neo-Nazi” group. (Business Insider put that in perspective with the following headline: “16% of the New Greek Parliament Is Communists and Nazis.”)

“The message is clear,” writes Zombie. “Once enough voters are on the dole, regardless of your party’s ideology or what label it has, you will win elections if you promise to keep the free money flowing. This was Cloward-Piven’s point, and they turned out to be frighteningly correct.”

Zombie continues:

What this means for Europe is anyone’s guess. Because both France and Greece are embedded in the EU, they do not have complete sovereignty over their own economies, so it still remains to be seen if the rest of the EU will allow them to spiral further into debt and reneg on previous agreements to tighten the pursestrings. But it seems that if they were left to their own devices, both France and Greece are willing to ignore reality and plunge headfirst into a completely unsustainable socialist model.

“Sunday might not be as epochal as Russia’s October Revolution,” Zombie concludes, “but it should be remembered as the day of the first Cloward-Piven Revolution.”

You can read the rest of the intriguing post here (which includes the line, “Will the revolution spread to America?”).

Comments (101)

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  • spirited
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 12:56pm

    “Will the revolution spread to America? -The Blaze
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Two interesting things written and alleged:
    1. The Tea Party was created to stop a US revolution.
    2. The Plan exsists to stop a US revolution (says a Viet Nam Vet who goes by Drake).

    Supposedly, our Sovereignty is the key for Civilian’s right to request our military to act. Our military may not act against our government; not follow The Commander in Chief (per military oath & in accordance with our Constitution). US Marshalls are Federal; not military & not civilian, they can cross borders (state and country). Supposedly more than 35 States have filed for sovereignty (Magna Carta; office located in Germany)
    The American Constitution is the “supreme law of the land”, recalling the manner in which Magna Carta had come to be regarded as fundamental law. This heritage is quite apparent. In comparing Magna Carta with the Bill of Rights: the Fifth Amendment guarantees: “No person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law.” In addition, the United States Constitution included a similar writ in the Suspension Clause, article 1, section 9: “The privilege of the writ habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion, the public safety may require it.” Each of these proclaim no man may be imprisoned or detained without proof that they did wrong. The Ninth Amendment to the United States Constitution states that, “Th

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    • spirited
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 1:05pm

      The Ninth Amendment to the United States Constitution states that, “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.” The framers of the United States Constitution wished to ensure that rights they already held, such as those provided by Magna Carta, were not lost unless explicitly curtailed in the new United States Constitution.

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    • spirited
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 2:18pm

      Provisions of the Tenth Amdendment to the Constitution:
      “the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      The following is long –but, quite interesting.
      If you can’t listen to the entire recording, go to about 1:05:37.
      HD VIDEO FROM 3/31 TEA PARTY EVENT WITH SHERIFF JOE POSTED HERE: http://www.art2superpac.com/arizonavideo.html

      If you didn’t know:
      Alabama & Georgia have blocked Obama (for now) from being on State ballot for 2012 election;
      until verification of his eligability is made.

      ~~>That is what Arizona is working on as well.

      >Pray

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 2:53pm

      Figure out… What Cause would you die for… And, then Stand Your Ground!

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    • maviswilliam
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 7:27pm

      actually,our military,is not forbidden,from fighting the govt.they are required to.the oath i took,and every other marine,(yeh navy and army too)they are our final hope,trust me as a retired nco when it becomes undeniable,(not far away)the officer that gives the order,get shot by the sgt.the problem with the left,they believe,theyare smarter than everone else,thats why they can tell everyone how to live.irony is they dont have a clue,if they get the chaois they want,the’re the first to go.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 7:04am

      @maviswilliam
      The most important is your last statement. They just don’t understand that they will be the first to go. I used to have an interview with a former KGB officer (Uri something or other) where he talked about how to take over a country. He said the people that Russia used were the first to go. They were idealists who wanted a utopia and when they didn’t get it from the guys they thought were going to give it to them (and that’s why they sided with them to overthrow their own government), they would rebel again. And the new government won’t deal well with rebels…they’ll line them up and shoot them.

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  • GETLIFE
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 12:20pm

    Hollande’s campain slogan was something like “Change is Now.“ For his last TV spot he cried out ”Ask not what your country can do for you…..” NO JOKE!

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  • COFemale
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 11:46am

    That is because they are already socialist countries and don’t have what the U.S. has – intelligent people. When you don’t have the same freedoms, you can‘t miss what you don’t have.

    About the only people here that will follow Cloward and Piven are the low-life uneducated no nothings. Otherwise known as Democrat Liberal Progressive Communist Socialist Marxist. (DLPCSM).

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 12:15pm

      No, they just have more “fonctionnaires” (government employees), and a purely leftist media. The media was absolutely corrupt and shameless– and there is NO conservative radio or press to speak of. Actually, given the media situation it is amazing how many convinced conservatives there are in France. My son’s facebook page was just a long list of disappointment.

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    • Jacque
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 12:44pm

      I need to disagree, most of the professors I work with are educated and brainwashed, they are mostly(90%) marxist, communists, socialists and progressives (socialist-lite). I am the lone American loving, freedom loving, Constitution loving professor. I tell them to not let the door hit them in the a$$ on the way out of my Republic.

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 7:06pm

      Actually Jack, I think we agree. Professors are fonctionnaires, aren’t they?

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  • snackrabbit
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 11:30am

    Ready to move to the first state serious about secession…

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  • vox_populi
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 11:08am

    Fear not, comrades! After the Revolution, I will ensure all Blaze posters get top bunk at the Conservative Forced-Relocation Camps!

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    • bumfuzeled
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 7:15pm

      You forget that most blaze posters will not bow to any “revolution” unless it is of our own making.

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    • LuckyIrishLady
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 5:08am

      You must mean the FEMA Camps. We have a Socialist Leader now, and if he gets another 4 more, he will be Our dictator. I will join the ranks and “rise up.“ Cloward and Piven are in the same ”nut” with George Soros, who hates America and is loving his prediction of “chaos in the streets.”

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  • EqualJustice
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 10:32am

    Can she PLEASE just die HAPPY NOW?

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 11:12am

      Why happy? She is going to hell. I dont thnk that will be happy.

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  • thegreatcarnac
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 10:32am

    Obama is using the same plan. He has almost brought us to our knees economically and has the nerve to ask for 4 more years. Do not be fooled. He is part of a coup to take down America. Do not let him.

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    • schlitten15
      Posted on May 8, 2012 at 10:47am

      Carnac, I smell a Hugo Chavez.

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    • ram6968
      Posted on July 23, 2012 at 1:43am

      talk about brainwashed…geez….bush takes your constitutional rights away

      and obama gives them back….and he’s the bad guy??

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  • LukeAppling
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 10:24am

    Now what, they ask.Clowart and Pivens never got beyond the idea no Socialist/marxist, facist big government has ever worked do they have new ideas or just a rehash of “tax the rich”. It seems just a rerhash. They had better start taxing rapidly as the rich leave for Switzerland or elsewhere.

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    • AmazingGrace8
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 11:45am

      You nailed it! I am not 100% sure of this but Tina Turner & Johnny Depp live in France. Tina is in her early 70′s, birthday the end of November, & I do my “home-arobics“ to her ”one last time-live in concert”, year 2000. Tina will have to put on her leather-skirt & red dancing heels again to pay the higher taxes for the concert goers. I like trivia, & you may know, Tina is only 5′4″ (she may have shrunk alittle with age) & with her high waist her “dy-no-mite” legs appeared to be that she was taller than she actually is. This new regime is saying, “we love you Tina & your riches” and she will be right back at them with her song, “What’s love got to do with it”? and she will threaten to leave France and take her stand to say, “Better be good to me”. Johnny Depp? An interview a few years ago he said he didn’t like to BATHE that much…so HE MUST live in France, right? Spray on that “Midnight-In-Paris” perfume & away you go. I like his movies & acting because he is so talented & really does not give a “rip” what anyone thinks, he does well. My favorite movie was when he was a deranged lover & dreamer and co-starring, Marlin Brando…
      “Addicted to love”?…..no….politicians are addicted to “money & power”

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  • jujubeebee
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:43am

    I believe the forces behind our administration are in cahoots with European forces. Why else did Obama go into Libya when he did because the U.S. didn’t need to do that. Europe is going broke and so are we. If these forces are after some global government because that is the buzz words by Hillary and Obama “global” then Americans have no place to go but down. Sharing the wealth globally will destroy our country’s prosperity. Those unions who enjoy such great benefits may want to think twice about sharing it across the globe.

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  • suedstate
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:37am

    With all of this Soros is celebrating, one step closer to World Government, one world currency,and the Bilderbergs,IMF, with the uber wealthy just sitting back and waiting for their plan to finally come. been a long time in the making, the Euro was the first test,

    The Kings,Queens,Dictators will reign again. So sad people never learn always the victims with their hands out.

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  • PCsince1776
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:32am

    I bet Obama and Chris Matthews BOTH had a tingle up their left leg this time.

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  • term limits for congress
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:31am

    Maybe TX will secede and invite a few of the southern states to join them. Otherwiese, we are already France and Greece.

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    • grudgywoof
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:53am

      Tennessee, Alabama, will join in sesession. Tennessee will never go down without a fight.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 10:02am

      Pretty sure Mississippi is in also.

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    • marvlus
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 10:14am

      I believe Georgia would be too.

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    • thegreatcarnac
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 10:29am

      Most of the ‘old South’ will eventually join Texas and some of the Midwest also. We can win our independence …this time.

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 11:07am

      The “Live Free or Die” state has become Democratic with all the Mass. people moving here. I hope we would join TX also, but I have my doubts.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 11:14am

      Texas will need a Governor with some balls first. Perry is a sissified Liberal.

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    • Winedude
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 11:19am

      It would be unfortunate if the southern states that are east of the Mississippi River secede from the Union. There are some beautiful places and wonderful people living there. If Texas wants to secede, let ‘em…they have neither…

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 11:38am

      Winedude, I’ve noticed there are about two TX-haters on blaze and you may be one of them.

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    • toomuchgovt
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 11:54am

      United we stand, DIVIDED we will (surely) fall. I am unfortunate to live in NY, but I will say this in upstate we took back 7 seats in congress. Until we get rid of the progressives in both parties we are ALL doomed. No state is safe.

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    • jpclarksville
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 3:53pm

      I don’t know about TN…There are a LOT of Californians that have moved to the Nashville area and with all the RINOs, blue dogs and liberals, TN is getting bluer by the minute.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:25am

    Coming to America all too soon.

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  • dadsrootbeer
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:17am

    The EU needs to drop them in order to survive. Let them complete their own destruction without taking everyone down with them. Sort of like what we have to do in the upcoming election in the U.S.

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  • blanco5
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:11am

    I am more angry that all of those American heroes had to die to defend france against hitler. We should have just let hitler have them!

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  • cemerius
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:09am

    Be prepared WW III/IV is coming…….wars oldest reason is about “collecting debts”……Sadam Hussein invaded Kuwait because he owed them so much money it was his thought that he was bigger than Kuwait and invaded rather than pay his debts…….

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  • Nemo13
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:00am

    It will come here, or it is already here. Most here only are remotely interested. People have been asleep at the wheel in this country for DECADES. You can talk about God or the bad gov’t or whatever…. But it is the people who are accountable. The people here voted these idiots in, or do not vote and let them in, or do not learn about our history and all things imporatant here, or do not teach their kids about what is important here, etc.. etc… The only time the majority of people in the USA actually do anything is when the bad news is finally on their doorstep.

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    • kittyrings
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 7:15pm

      Just read your comment and so far you have nailed it to the cross. America has been far too apathetic about every aspect of government. The shock when it really does come to their door step, will the reality check take hold, and by then it will be too late.

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  • jhaydeng
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 8:56am

    If Europe falls shouldn’t the U.S. benefit? The currency should fall like a rock, right? If the pound falls the dollar should rise giving us more bang for our buck?!

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    • Constructionist
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:26am

      What does the Pound have to do with the European Union?

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 11:27am

      jhaydeng, no. Overvaluation of one currency against another hampers trade (export) and leads to jobs base loss. The real purchasing value of the dollar remains the same for you. It may mean cheaper vacations in Europe, but considering the trend would lead to hyperinflation, even cheap vacations may be rather temporary. Stable currency markets are desirable on many levels (unless there is a persistent undervaluation of a currency–like Chinese renmimbi), unstable–only a few people benefit.

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    • cykonas
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 3:04pm

      @The Realist
      With all due respect I suggest you think about adopting an alternative screen name. Your replies, especially the one to Calisun, make it painfully clear to me that you are a sound bite intellectual and are not realistic in any way. To make fun of the phrase “a little less evil” from Calisun’s post is mere parroting on your part. She is absolutely right! Romney is part of the establishment and while I may concede that he is better than Obama he is far from a candidate that has the backbone to maintain strict Constitutional fidelity.

      It’s logic like yours and your compatriots that enables the establishment parties to deliver to the US electorate the same dismal choices each four years. A sheeple that follows the herd off a different cliff is still a sheeple. Maybe it’s your age (my first Presidential election was 1976); the choices have always been the same. Crap or Crappier. Peace.

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    • cykonas
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 3:27pm

      @NHWINTER

      I, for one, can’t stand anymore surprises! I voted for Reagan and he left us with a deficit of $1.86T. Boy was I surprised! The I voted for Bush I and he left us with a deficit of another $1.55T. Boy I was really surpirsed! I didn’t vote for Clinton and while he did leave us with a deficit, he was at least under both Reagan and Bush I. Then I vote for Bush II and he left us with a deficit of $4.22T. Man, I’ve got to tell you I was really, really, really surprised! Now comes our current CIC. The final count isn’t in, but he’s already beat Bush II and we still have at least (and hopefully only) 8 months to go.

      The only surprise I’m looking for is viable alternatives to either of the mainstream parties, and voters intelligent enough to back them. I’ve been surprised quite enough, thank you!

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  • Matrix22
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 8:54am

    At least we have a good idea of where we‘ll end up if we don’t turn this country around. And please, for the love of all that is holy, would you Romney-haters please give it a rest! He’s our nominee! Get over it, your boy Paul lost. If you would actually read or listen to what he’s saying on the campaign (not what he said a decade ago in some quote taken out of context), you‘d know he is a lot more conservative than you’re giving him credit for. He’ll get rid of Obama-care, he’s tough on illegals, and he’s vowed to lower taxes. I know it’s not everything we want, but turning this barge around is going to take time.

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    • BurntHills
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:06am

      true. very true.

      any vote =the main candidate= Romney does not get is a vote for obama against America, period.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:17am

      How can you say Ron Paul has lost. Most of the state conventions havent even happened and the ones that have Ron Paul has won. Romney doesnt have the 1044 and at the pace Ron Paul is picking up delegates it will be a lot more difficult for him to. What do you people have against competition?

      Ron Paul just won 22 out of the 25 unbound delegates in Nevada giving him a 22 to 12 victory over Romney. Yes Romney won the caucus but has lost the state. There are many more states like this. The numbers of delegates are not being told to you correctly by media.

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    • The Realist
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:35am

      Mutiny
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:17am
      How can you say Ron Paul has lost.

      –Ummm, common sense? Eyes? History-2008? Insane and dangerous foreign policy? GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS-It’s ROMNEY or a VOTE FOR OBAMA. semi-LIBERTY OR FULL-THROTTLE TYRANNY. Not the greatest of choices BUT THIS IS WHERE WE ARE. Man the EFF UP, and DROP RON PAUL ALREADY! Did you people not learn a FREAKING THING last time? This time is FOR KEEPS! THIS IS IT!

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:44am

      @realist

      Wow you are very uninformed. As I posted earlier the media is telling you its over. The problem is Romney doesnt have the delegates. He doesnt even have all the delegates he has been projected to win in the caucuses. Perfect example is Nevada. Romney wins the caucus with 50% and doesnt get the delegates.

      Since I love asking this question, What is so dangerous about Ron Paul’s foreign policy?

      http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/national-defense/

      1. Make securing our borders the top national security priority. You against that?

      2. Avoid long and expensive land wars that bankrupt our country by using constitutional means to capture or kill terrorist leaders who helped attack the U.S. and continue to plot further attacks. Are you against this?

      3. Guarantee our intelligence community’s efforts are directed toward legitimate threats and not spying on innocent Americans through unconstitutional power grabs like the Patriot Act. How about this?

      4. End the nation-building that is draining troop morale, increasing our debt, and sacrificing lives with no end in sight. Do you like nation building?

      5. Follow the Constitution by asking Congress to declare war before one is waged. You dont like the Constitution?

      6. Only send our military into conflict with a clear mission and all the tools they need to complete the job – and then bring them home. You dont like this?

      To be continued…

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:53am

      7. Ensure our veterans receive the care, benefits, and honors they have earned when they return. I for one think they deserve this.

      8. Revitalize the military for the 21st century by eliminating waste in a trillion-dollar military budget. You like no bid contracts made full of kick backs making lobbyist money?

      9. Prevent the TSA from forcing Americans to either be groped or ogled just to travel on an airplane and ultimately abolish the unconstitutional agency. Do you think grandma and toddlers should be molested?

      10. Stop taking money from the middle class and the poor to give to rich dictators through foreign aid. You think this is a bad idea?

      Now can you tell me what in that is dangerous? I dont believe we need 900 bases in 130 countries. I dont think we can afford to nation build. I dont think we need to meddle in every country in the worlds affairs.

      Try this, do some research and quit letting Bill Oreilly think for you. People like you are the reason our country is so messed up. Uninformed sheep that are told what to do are sending us to bankruptcy. If we go bankrupt we will have no national defense. If the world banks own us, they own our military. What kind of defense is that? I call it a very dangerous one. Your boy Mitt’s budget doesnt cut one penny from current spending levels. How much longer do you think we can sustain that?

      WAKE UP!!!!!

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    • The Realist
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 10:04am

      As if Paul’s anti-Israel attitude and extremely NAIVE at best foreign policy wasn’t enough-George Soros connections? No thanks, I’ll pass:
      http://www.horowitzfreedomcenter.org/2012/01/01/ron-pauls-soros-defense-plan/

      Ron Paul said he was against killing Bin Laden, or did you forget? I suppose he would have liked to see a mockery of justice with him being given a “fair trial” in US courts, as if he was no different from a common thief or something?
      http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ron-paul-denies-saying-that-he-would-not-have-ordered-bin-ladens-killing/

      If by Nation building, you mean support for Israel-I support God’s Israel-yes.

      More anti-Semitism by Ron Paul? Support for a self-hating/Iran sympathizing Rabbi: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/good-advice-ron-paul-allegedly-approves-of-anti-zionist-rabbis-message-during-campaign-run-in/

      Ron Paul will not be the nominee. He may have some good qualities, but he’s got some serious and questionable issues as well.

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    • calisun
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 10:31am

      It is a pretty sad day when we are being pushed to vote for a candidate that we don’t want just because he is a little less evil.

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    • The Realist
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 10:31am

      http://www.elephantwatcher.com/p/candidate-rankings.html

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    • The Realist
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 10:46am

      calisun
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 10:31am
      It is a pretty sad day when we are being pushed to vote for a candidate that we don’t want just because he is a little less evil.

      –It’s a TRAGIC day, yes…but a “little less evil?” Come on now. We can say a lot of things about Romney, but he’s no communist. He doesn’t want to “fundamentally change America.” He didn’t pal around with terrorists, he doesn’t favor Muslims in every way possible. We can‘t say that virtually everyone in Romney’s circle of friends is either a former or current socialist, Marxist, Maoist, communist, or some other radical nutjob-but we can SURELY say that about Obama. Romney’s not a man-child. He’s not a racist. He wouldn’t continue to divide Americans every way he could. He understand the FREE MARKET. The absolute worst we could say about Mitt Romney is light years better than the absolute BEST thing we could say about Obama-PERIOD.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 11:23am

      @the

      Did you even bother to do any research on this?

      The panel was created to try and streamline our military and cut cost. Who isnt for that? Soros jumped on board later on. I can tell you why Ron Paul was on this panel and what he was doing. He was calling for a audit of the Pentagon. Its in the report if you bothered to even do any research. You dont think it would be a good idea to audit the Pentagon?

      Ron Paul voted for going to get Bin Laden. He would have rather gotten him through letters of marque and reprisal instead of risking our troops and being stuck in a national building project. Look at us now, still losing troops in Afghanistan and paying out the ears to rebuild that worthless country. Ron Paul was correct.

      The rabbi showed up to a rally of Ron Paul. Like many people at rallies they get to shake the candidates hand.

      Weiss told Paul that Judaism is a religion and that it ”should never be transformed into a nationalism.” The paper claims that Paul’s response — which will certainly draw ire — was that this statement is “good advice.”

      “good advice” is anti semetic? Do you think the Muslim Brotherhood should transform religion into nationalism in Egypt? Why is ok for one and not the other?

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    • UnCL3
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 11:05pm

      Mutiny = NUTS

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  • actualconservative
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 8:44am

    We have 49/51 government already. 51 percent sit in the wagon. 49 percent pull. When that happens, the 49 percent start to move to other countries (happening now) or jump into the wagon with the rest.

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  • Mutiny
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 8:43am

    Supporting a candidate that doesnt cut spending (Romney) is also allowing the plan to work perfectly also. You can say over and over to yourself he is better than Obama, but both men have us headed in the same direction.

    I am voting for a different direction. Ron Paul 2012!!!!

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 8:59am

      A wasted vote then. If you really feel that was about Romney, at least things will slow down. I think Romney just may surprise you and be much more conservative after he is elected than you think he will be. There is a lot of pressure on him to be conservative. He is running for office now and has to appear to be in the middle. Only time will tell. We need to pray for God to guide our Republic.

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    • BurntHills
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:04am

      any vote against =main candidate= Romney is a vote for obama, period. that’s how it works.

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:12am

      The delegate count is just now starting. Romney has not won!!! For example, in Nevada Romney won 50% of the vote, but in the state convention this past weekend Ron Paul won 22 of the 25 unbound delegates giving him a 22 to 34 victory in the delegate count over Romney.

      You say Romney will move to the right, but history says he will move left trying to get votes. He has shown no backbone on stances throughout his political career what makes you think the being president will change that. Again, moving slowly down the wrong road still means you are headed in the wrong direction.

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    • jujubeebee
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:50am

      Businessman Romney will cut spending. You need to think about the lesser of two evils if you feel that negative about Romney. We need Obama OUT!

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    • Mutiny
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 10:09am

      @juju

      I dont think about the lesser of two evils. Evil is evil. You say Romney is a business man. He raised taxes as governor. The budget he put out doesnt cut one penny from current spending levels. Basically what Romney did with that budget is agree with Obama that trillion dollar deficits are ok.

      Oh and that great business man Romney did make money in the private sector. The problem is he used government bailouts to do it. At Bain with one of the factories he bought he took 44 million in bailouts. The man is funded by the same people as Obama.

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 8:43am

    Our Government, has lost the Moral Authority to tax the people……..

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    • BrianM
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:00am

      True, Dr Detroit…however they don’t give a damn about morals, because they don’t share ours. So…whatcha gonna do now?

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  • SageInWaiting
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 8:41am

    That video of the Neo-Nazi interview in Greece with the goon entering the room to demand all the reporters to “stand in respect or get out” was MORE than creepy; the message that opponents should “fear” – get out FAST. So THIS is what they envision of “utopia” -I don’t want it!

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  • Nemo13
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 8:36am

    You don’t even have to collapse the governent. You just let enough non working, non tax paying idiots in that you give free stuff to, you get their vote and their body for riots.

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on May 7, 2012 at 8:31am

    Guess what???? It’s working perfectly here….. unless GOD’s people get on our knees and humble ourselves and turn from our wicked ways (doing business as usual as if nothing’s wrong???) and seek HIS face….

    It IS ALL ABOUT GOD. Nothing else matters.

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    • Grasshopper42
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 8:46am

      And they all said, ‘Amen’.

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    • Nemo13
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 8:47am

      Silly talk. All the prayer in the world won’t help. The only thing that helps is reasonable sane people taking charge. If the crazy people gather in too many numbers, than game over. God will do nothing but sit it out and watch. As he has from the beginning.

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    • momrules
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 8:48am

      Morning Kick……..You are right of course, it is working here in America AND across the globe. I remember the first time I heard the phrase Socialized Medicine. That was in the early 70′s and the Dr. I was working for at the time understood what it would mean to America and he opened my eyes to the danger.

      We’ve come a long way since then to the complete Socialist takeover of America and it was done quietly, in stages until we are in a trap that only God can remove us from.

      Keep up the good work Kick, keep spreading the message.

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    • Docrow
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 8:52am

      yup!

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 8:55am

      I agree, Grandma, but unfortunately the masses have been indoctrinated by socialsit teachers, just like Pivens, and they bought the whole propaganda agenda. We need re-education camps, but not the ones the marxists are talking about. They need to learn history http://www.tomwoods.com/blog/​marxism-and-the-intellectuals/, and then learn about our Constitution and authentic American history. Unless people really understand what is happening here in America and in Europe, we will all go down as the civilation that was too uninformed to realize what happened when we were all destroyed. As Ben Franklin said, you now have a Repubic, IF you can keep it!!!!

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    • IMCHRISTIAN
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 9:17am

      Don’t knock it until you try it. Yes, I am talking about a sincere prayer for good to defeat evil in all things. America will go further down hill if we do not listen after we pray. God Bless you all and America.

      Life is short and eternity is forever so do good for your future generations.

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 11:09am

      typo – civilization.

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    • CommunismSurvivor
      Posted on May 12, 2012 at 8:09pm

      I‘m an agnostic but I’m on your side.

      DIVIDED WE FALL. THAT is the most important thing.

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