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Guess Which Major TV Host Thinks Obama Is Not Really a Christian
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When someone says they don’t think President Barack Obama is actually a Christian, the expectation would be that they think he’s secretly a Muslim. Not Bill Maher. On tonight’s Real Time, in the process of arguing that Obama’s not really a centrist politically, Maher also revealed that he doesn’t think Obama’s actually Christian, either, but rather a secular humanist.
The belief Maher apparently holds – that Obama isn’t actually a Christian, but merely pretends to be one to keep up appearances for the sake of his political career – strikes us as one of the most cynical things anyone could possibly believe about Obama.
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warner
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:30amHey Bill…you just figuring this out now? Idiot!
Report Post »cruise_missile
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:30amBarack Hussein Obama: “I will stand with [the Muslims] should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
Report Post »ROBCW
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 6:55amPolitically he is a christian…Personal practice he is a muslim…….Wake up!!!!
Report Post »loveoursoldiers
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 10:43amthey shifted when he was elected
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:30amGeorge Bush Pretended to be a Christian really well.
In comparison, Obama expression more Christian likeness so even if Obama is not a practicing Christian, at least he acts like one, unlike some people.
Report Post »03GRUNT
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:04amWhy even come to this site if you dont like beck? I dont go to CNN or any of the lib news sites and talk trash, grow up and realize that just becasue you have an opinion, doesnt mean that everyone will necessarily agree with you.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:26amIt’s a ******* contest for some. That way they are called TROLLS
Report Post »drgonz
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:33amoooo snap some people can’t take the truth.
Report Post »Enuff Zenuff
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 8:28am.
@STUPID WINDMILL
Please support your claims that Bush was “pretending”. Did he not do more to stop the spread of AIDS in Africa than all his predecessors combined? Obama’s own brothers and cousins live in poverty while he & Michele became millionaires at the public trough – but he won’t even help them with his own money.
But even that doesn’t prove Bush was being “Christian” since he was redistributing taxpayers’ money.
So, on what basis are you claiming that Obama is a ‘practicing Christian’? I‘m not saying that he isn’t. I’m just asking you to back up your argument with examples – and if you say it’s because he wants to help all the poor people, that‘s not being Christian if he’s using OTHER PEOPLE’S MONEY. Where is the ‘Christian’ sacrifice in that?
The Democrats have been “helping the poor” for 50 years using other people’s money and by any measurable standard – the poor are much worse off than before (Read Ann Coulter’s “Guilty” for the unambiguous statistics). Sad part is – the people who had to give up all that money are worse off too! Just think what they could have done with all that money if they were allowed to keep what they’d earned.
Christ helped the poor but he didn’t force others to do so at the point of a gun like the Progressives do – with the IRS backing them up, so please – it would be good to provide some examples – Don’t you think?
Report Post »mill
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 10:01amYour brain transplant didn’t work huh???
Report Post »Pity, now you’re still as stupid as Maher and Obama. Puke troll
FlowerBell
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:28amBill Maher has a shtick, it makes him money, and the brainless ones like him. He probably doesn’t even believe the nonsense that flows out of his own mouth, but it will keep on flowing freely as long as the money does.
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:35amGlenn Beck has a shtick, it makes him money, and the brainless ones like him. He probably doesn’t even believe the nonsense that flows out of his own mouth, but it will keep on flowing freely as long as the money does.
Seriously guy, you make this too easy.
Report Post »mill
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 10:04amBeck gives you facts…tells you to NOT take his word…but go look up the facts yourself.
Funny, he merely gives them their “own words” back and they go crazy~~their own words on record!!
Maher…major nothing..please quit giving this guy air to breathe~~
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:26amWhat a group of big heads huffing and puffing playing who is King of the Hill of I’m a better,brighter and more caring person then you. Chief Washington Correspondent for MSNBC…. Madam you are a Fraud, You have shown to me you are in a position you are unprepared for or God forbid you have sold your professional soul for 5 pieces of silver. Real newsmen are spinning in their grave looking at the actor, the pretty face no talent person playing a newsmen. Have you no shame?
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:34amAt least Rachael Maddow reports on fact with her own perspective and invites people on who have different perspectives about such.
Beck would never allow dissenting opinion.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:58amWell that’s a big WHOOP. What are you her Publicist?
Report Post »Kenny
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 7:46amrachael maddow is a girl????? i thought it was some effette way to spell rick. how come feminine liberal women never really look that feminine. for example: hillary clinton, christine roehmer, janet napolitano, helen thomas, i would go on but that last made me throw up a little
Report Post »peezee
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:25amMaher was beaten up a lot as a child. One can easily see why.
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:23amBill says Barrack Hussein Obama is using religion to get elected keeping up appearances to further is political career ? Kinda reminds me of the story from chicago how he was told he would have to drop his islamic faith in order to be elected to congress .That was hard to distance himself from people like louis farrahkahn who helped him with the vote telling people obama would bring islam to the west .Nah that’s just crazy talk ,right ?
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:40amI don’t think you have nothing to worry about, unless its going to be like when whitey brought Christianity to the Native Americans…
Report Post »HostileLogic
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:21amObama is NOT a Muslim. likely, he is a cultural Muslim. He is a Marxist and therefore an atheist.
Report Post »pwatkins
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:15amI haven’t an opinion what he is religiously, but as POTUS, he is a trader.
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:47am“I am a humanist, which means, in part, that I have tried to behave decently without expectations of rewards or punishments after I am dead”
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:56am@13th
Report Post »The fact that you think of God in those terms only, is your problem, and only shows how out of touch with reality you are.
You’ve not truly delved into the idea of God, because if you had you would have found him.
bjt141
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:13amThis isn’t new and he has said this multiple times before and a lot of people think this way. This is why most liberals think it is hilarious when you all call him a Muslim because most of us don’t think he is even religious.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:35amThe man who thinks he can live without God is ungrounded in the real world; he has no true link to the past, or with the history of life which move us forward, he lives a life of his own misery, of his own making.
Report Post »royalstar
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:32amI think you are probably right. He doesn’t fit into any category. When in Rome he will do as the Romans do. A real chameleon. He is clearly a Marxist though,
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:12amOh, but we should be so lucky!!! I love to fantasize about Obama secretly being a rational secular humanist, alas, he‘s probably earnest when he says he’s a Christian.
Report Post »BJC
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:08amObowma is ANYTHING he needs to be at the moment. He has more personalities than Sybil.
Report Post »TRUTHSEEKINGAL
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 5:50ama small reptile, chameleon comes to mind.
Report Post »jacobstroubles
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 8:18amAnother very funny and yet highly accurate statement!
Report Post »Hoosierchap
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 8:20amRight on! But why wouldn’t he be confused thanks to his loony mother! My thoughts are that BHO doesn’t truly know who or what he is…he takes a little from here, and some from over there, but the closest he ever came to finding out who he truly is and where he was most comfortable was in that black theology church run by Jeremiah Wright.
Report Post »pothos42
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:08amSo I guess his family’s history of bribes and kickbacks can count as “business contacts” for Bill Daley according to MSNBC‘s Norah O’Donnell.
Report Post »Freedomrules
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:01amWhen Obama (twice) in a single interview “accidentally” said “When people talk about my Muslim faith” and had to be corrected… it’s easy to make people wonder…
“As a man speaketh, so is he in his heart…”
I don’t actually believe he is a Muslim. But I‘m not sure I’d consider Rev. Wright’s church a real Christian church, either. Real Christian churches don’t preach hate.
He may not be a Muslim, but his actions sure indicate he is sympathetic to Muslim interests.
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:37amMaybe you might have a hard time comprehending this but… EVEN if he was a Muslim, WHY would that matter?
Report Post »Enuff Zenuff
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 8:09amWhatever he chooses to believe in doesn’t matter so much… What matters is that he be HONEST about it. The problem is in the dishonesty.
Report Post »SHASTADIANE1
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 1:59amBill Maher is an atheist ass..I feel for him in the next world..
Report Post »bjt141
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:15amso if it’s definately real, then just let whoever runs the “next world” worry about it, it’s not your job….oh wait that’s right, you know the “next world” isn‘t real and need to complain about others who aren’t in the same social club as you.
Report Post »SHASTADIANE1
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 1:57amSad…My people will know me and I will know them…If you confess me….sad..
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 1:56amI would say takes one to know one but Maher knows so little about religious faith because he has spent too much time ridiculing it .Maybe Barrack has him fooled but i doubt it more likely he is stirring up the oprah crowd for obama’s base in 2012.
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:06amHumanists do believe in collective salvation and many paths to heaven and it appears Obama’s pastor friend Rick Warren has went new age .Obama sounds like no christian i have ever heard or seen .
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 9:50amScott,We know the tree by the fruit that it bears,and it’s very obivious that Obama is not a Christain,I pray to God we as Americans can get him voted out in 2012
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 1:55am…duh…
It matters not what he professes to be, humanist is just another way to say one is spiritually lazy, so Bill can F—Off.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 1:54amGreat Googely Moogely:
Report Post »Bill Maher doesn’t thing he is a Christian, OMG, maybe Rosie O Donell isn’t a lesbian. I have to reevaluate my entire life, maybe ET doesn’t exist, and Lohen is actually inocent. Wow. Mind blowing. Quick Marty, to the Delorean.
SHASTADIANE1
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:03amAin’t that the truth????
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:32amBANAL REFERENCES.
Make everything coherent apparently.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:46amOT@ Darmok
Report Post »Love your name and have wondered for some time if you had anything to do with that episode. Where you one of the writers or maybe one the production crew. For you to use it as your login name means it has some significance to you. Could you share ……. Dieing to know
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:58amNo, just a huge Trekie. Nothing more, nothing less.
Temba, his arms wide!
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:04amThanks for responding. It was wonderful, the writing was great the story line was very original. Every once in a while a episode just made me say…… WOW that was good.
Report Post »sodizzy
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:17amOK. Don’t believe it then.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:34amI am not a Star Trek writer. I love Star Trek and actually all Sci Fi.
Report Post »In fact, tonight I was just Watching JJ Abrahms, Star Trek, XI.
Gene Roddenberry rocks, Shatner Is James T Kirk, and Tribbels are the rabbits of the universe.
maxedout
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 1:53amI can’t believe this guy still has a show. He ain’t funny and the leftist drivel that spills out from that socialistic, deformed brain…..such pathetic, nonsensical crap. Time for a drink.
Report Post »SHASTADIANE1
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:05amMe too…drink of choice for me also…I’ve had enough of his bologna..and I had to sing the Oscar Meyer commercial to type that one…lol~
Report Post »Seneca
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 1:51amMore like an opportunist.
Report Post »He’ll believe in anything that will help him in the polls. Luckily the American people have seen through the charade.
RestoreCapitalism
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 1:49amOne communist recognizing another? Not so hard to believe.
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:31amYou see? This is why people make fun of you.
Report Post »drgonz
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:37amPlease read Eric Frohmm’s “Marx’s Concept of Man”. I think Marx and his idea of communism has been misinterpreted and misused by various dictators over the years. It really is almost synonymous with utopia.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:49am@ DRGONZ
Yep we misunderstood Marx & Stalin – Mao – Bin Laden – Khomeini …etc … but thanks GOD for loons like you to who really understand & worship communism .
drgonz
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:06amRobert, c‘mon man you’re from california too, right? What are you doing watching Glenn beck?
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:12amGonzo @ least Glenn doesn’t defend Marx & communism & yes I’m in CA but I know right from wrong .
Report Post »drgonz
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:21amI’m just recommending a book to read. Television news lives on dirty buzz words like “communism” but ‘community’ that sounds good right, almost church-like.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:28amGonzo are you a telemarketer ?
Report Post »STOP SELLING COMMUNISM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
brliantedj
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:30amdrgonz
Report Post »Pretty sure most on this site read all that dribble, Real sure most people here read longer than you’ve been alive. I’m hoping you have more sense than to try convince others of your UTOPIA, and I‘m damn sure you’ve not read history if you believe in it yourself.
Enuff Zenuff
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 8:05am.
@DRGONZ
The problem with Utopia is that we’re all too human here – we’re not perfect – though I believe that’s a noble goal to strive towards. Sure, Marx makes a lot of sense in Utopia, but show me where Utopia is so we can all go live there! (???)
Yes, dictators have misused Marxism, but even if a benevolent leader applied it, the imperfect humans who live under it would misuse Marxism – and this has been proven over and over again. People are lazy, but so what? – Animals are lazy too. That’s just nature! Who’d want to work hard if others are willing to work for you?
Set aside your Eric Fromm for the moment and study the history of the Jamestown settlement: (From WIKI: Jamestown is often cited as an illustration of the benefits to productivity gained when comparing a communal (or ‘communist’) system to that of a free market system. With the change in law to allow each laborer to keep the food he grew, productivity received an enormous boost, taking the colony out of starvation. Once again when land was given over to ownership by the working people, production increased significantly.)
Capitalism is grounded in harsh reality – but at least it is REAL! Communism is not grounded in reality. It is pie-in-the-sky wishful thinking – like believing in Santa Claus. Who wouldn’t rather believe in Santa Claus – he’s much more fun to believe in! So is Marx! Only problem is – There’s no such thing as Santa Claus.
Time to grow up – don’t you think?
Report Post »drgonz
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 11:12amENUFF thanks for a cogent response. I do completely agree with you that utopia is idealistic and communism only works on paper (at least until we all evolve into Buddhist geniuses). You also make a good point about increased productivity when using a free market system but I think it stops working when you become a nation of 300 million and it becomes destructive when morphed into a global economic model. We have long ago switched focus from creating goods to meet peoples demands to, supplying anything and using expensive advertising campaigns to make the people believe they demand it. Communism is not the answer but neither is our current system. Rampant capitalism is just wasteful because it plans degradation of products for short-term profits. I think most people can imagine a better society than this it‘s just the transition that’s hard to imagine or implement. thanks again for not replying in the usual blaze fashion.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:20pmGonzo you’re still insisting on communism , I heard that Belarus is good place for communism this time of year , I’ll buy you the 1 way ticket .
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 1:49amI’d rather believe in the Constitution but hey, call me an American.
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:11amAppreciation is a wonderful thing: It makes what is excellent in others belong to us as well.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:25am13th generationdouchebag.
Report Post »drgonz
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:32amThe framers of the constitution are rolling in their graves since this site came to be.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:39amDUSTYLUV
Report Post »Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:25am
13th generationdouchebag.
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Robert-CA
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:41am@ DRGONZ
Report Post »They’re rolling of joy that their dream country is getting back on track thanks to the tea party people & not thanks to liberal progressive loons like you .
drgonz
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:02am@Robert, you’re assuming a lot. We’re not all exclusively liberal or conservative stop viewing the world through this limited lens. btw…the tea party is a sham provoked into a large coalition by donations and referrals from people who want things to stay the same, i.e. a state of an unholy amount of economic and social inequality. It’s a shame that so many people spend what little time they have in this life fighting for selfish betterment and abandoning compassion to their fellow humans. The founding fathers were all for this thus they would hate today’s capitalism, political discourse, and news infotainment.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:07amGonzo leave the Founding Fathers out of this , a person that defends Marx & communism like you shouldn’t even be mentioning the Founding Fathers , I know your true colors .
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:08am@Robert-CA
Report Post »I think the founders would be rejoicing in the debate. Read the debate for the consitution, the federalist papers. This is what the founders did for Gods sake. Anyone that would stifile debate, that would deem this as un-American, is a Red Coat, un-American, Royalist who shouts “God save King George”.
Debating is American, and to tout discourse, to shout “Constitution”, would make George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Patrick Henry, and countless others who pledged their life, liberty and souls to the United States of America, weep and rejoice. I hold that pledge dear to my heart, teach it to my children and have taken a lifelong oath to uphold. God Bless America.
Robert-CA
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:15am@ DARMOK
Report Post »Do you think I will waste my time with someone who said this ?
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DRGONZ
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:37am
Please read Eric Frohmm’s “Marx’s Concept of Man”. I think Marx and his idea of communism has been misinterpreted and misused by various dictators over the years. It really is almost synonymous with utopia.
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Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:30am@Robert-CA
Report Post »No, I don’t think you waste your time. You Rock.
Rock Steady.
Live Long and Prosper.
13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:45amDarmok and Jalad at Tanagra,
No they would not, sorry. My people wanted the same things you actually enjoy today. To live life, raise families and smile with their children and grand children. They were well aware of their responsibilities to their community, in fact, they counted on security, community and social interaction when times dictated that their common goal was to survive for a betterment to life for all.
They understood, divided they would succumb to the brutality of their adversary, the environment. Reconsider your position, I have documented proof, not to belittle you, rather to explain the hardship of those people.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 4:00amYour people ???????????????????
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 4:22amAre you’re people of the Klingon Empire?
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 4:30amYour name, 13 Generation, my ancestry, is of the original Americans, and if they had exercised proper immigration, your generation would have been excised. So, please go from Plymouth rock back to communist Europe. Go back 13th. Go back to your repressive people and your repressive country. Please, leave this land alone.
Report Post »AKMIIKEUS
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 8:51amDarmok
You seem to be the one bitchin about the U.S. more than anyone else. You don‘t like living here why don’t you pack up and move? I hear South Africa is still segregated. I’m sure you will love it there.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:15pm@ AKMIIKEUS
Report Post »That’s the stupidest comment coming from you , not that I’m surprised .
& here’s a good place for you Belarus .
Michael Dabahue
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 1:48am” Maher apparently holds – that Obama isn’t actually a Christian, but merely pretends to be one”
LOL This is from a guy who pretends to be a comedian….
Report Post »Bruce_Almty
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 7:49amBill Mahar ??? Is he the butlicker that works for Herr Olberdork at the Current? I didn’t think that channel was still broadcasting.
Report Post »MiketheTrucker
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 7:54amI said it long ago, and I’ll say it again, Obama is NEITHER Christian nor Muslim. He IS a communist and most communists are atheists.
Think about his policies, and especially his actions which indicate he is a dictator…… of the communist kind.
Report Post »jacobstroubles
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 8:16amThat is soooooooooo funny…and so true!
Report Post »Soldier4Christ
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 9:42amHBO is just as slimy as Bill Maher. Did anyone see that horrible wanna-be documentary on Reagan they are airing. Its just plain sad. The propaganda in that was as bad as it gets. Boycott HBO for having fools like Bill Maher on their station and for disrespecting Ronald Reagan!!!!!
Report Post »WhiteFang
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:16pmAnybody can say they are a Christian, but we all know that words are either true, or false based on the persons actions over a long period of time. A true Christian would never be a part of this worlds politics. They would heed Jesus’ words at John 17:16
Report Post »bertr
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 8:17pmi find Maher sickening but this is what i respect from him, he does see the world though a distorted liberal lense from my perspective but he doesnt promote media BS. He’s against muslim extremist too.
Report Post »Most liberals now days seem embarrassed and afraid of what they think, but not him, he has ones of steel even if i completely disagree with him on most everything i still have some respect for him
There is something still sensible about him when it comes right down to the line. im no fan of the guy, but id take him as a hard core liberal over most on tv almost any day. you ask him a question he will tell you what he thinks, he sees a liberal inconstancy in the media he will call it out. What happened to the rest of the liberal movement when Bill Maher is one of the few and most despicable left and is the only one of the very few i see as consistant.
Marine Recon Dad
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 1:46am… duh…..
Report Post »bbquizzle
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 1:53amNah Bill, Obama is a Christian.
He’s also the Gipper.
Report Post »adjams
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:05amThis story is deceptive. Bill is not a major TV host.
Usually the media attributes this kind of thinking to the racist world view of the person saying it.
Report Post »They would be half right in this case. While Bill, is a racist, that fact does not shape his opinion in this case.
CatB
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:11amCORRECTION ..headline should read
Guess Which MINOR TV Host Thinks Obama Is Not Really a Christian
BMartin1776
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:15amI actually wrote about this long debated topic and provided several vids thats worth the time to watch.
Obama’s Religion: Is He a Muslim, A Christian? http://www.savingtherepublic.com/What_is_Obamas_Religion.html
In a nutshell he is practicing christianity his “…‘Christianity’ is based on Liberation Theology. We know this because Obama himself has said he has sat in Rev. Wrights church for over 20yrs. We know for a fact Rev Wright preaches Liberation Theology (aka Black Theology). “
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:17am“Secular Humanist” is dead-on.
And the garbage he absorbed from Wright’s pulpit for 20 years contained absolutely nothing christian whatsoever, nothing Biblical either. Nowhere in the Bible is America mentioned, let alone damned. Silly Jeremiah.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:24amAsk any Muslim. Once a Muslim, always a Muslim. You cannot denounce the faith.
Obama was raised Muslim. He may call himself a Christian, but the Muslim does not believe anything other than he is still a Muslim…
And I will add..Bill who?
Report Post »JollyTrooper
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:25amObama is as Christian as apple pie…that Michelle won’t let you eat.
Look, I made no freakin’ sense just like Bill Maher.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:29amIf we look at how anti-Christian people profile and stereotype Christians,
what Maher is actually trying to say is :
Since Hussain is not a
Report Post »USA- loving, anti-abortion bitter clinger,
he can’t be Christian
drgonz
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:31amI think what BIll is trying to say is that Obama truly wants to see progressive changes enacted in America but he knows there is a boatload of far right-wing capitalist contrarians who he is obligated by his office to listen and pander to. Just as he is smart enough to be skeptical about religion but knows he has to claim a faith in order to even be considered as a viable candidate in our corrupt political duopoly.
Robert-CA
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:45amDRGONZ
Report Post »Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:31am
I think what BIll is trying to say
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drgonz
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:53am@robert-ca, soo you don’t think? I don’t really get your argument. Are you trying to say one day maybe I’ll be brainwashed too?
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:59amHey Gonzo I was quoting you , but if you wanna play it dumb like your loon friends go ahead I don’t give a damn .
Chet Hempstead
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:26amDustyluv
Report Post »If Muslims believe that you can never leave the faith, and you say Obama is a Muslim, that makes you a Muslim, because noone but a Muslim is required to beliveve that you can’t change you faith.
Beej13
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:41amActually, I believe Obama is simply a run-of-the-mill atheist…nothing more.
So am I. So what? It‘s not the man’s faith — or lack thereof — in an omniscient creator that’s the problem; it’s his view of government…specifically, the central role he believes an intrusive federal government should play in controlling the behavior and limiting the personal freedoms of individuals.
I don’t believe the government should be in the business of picking winners and losers. He does. I don’t believe people who have taken chances, succeeded and reaped the financial rewards of that success should be demonized and forced to share with everyone else. He does. I don’t believe justice should be meted out according to racial or political preferences. He does. I don’t believe free market capitalism is a problem in need of a solution. He does. I don‘t believe America’s faults require a “fundamental transformation” to address her shortcomings and inherent inequalities. He does. I don’t believe the idea of people paying their “fair share” is based on any traditional American notion of fairness whatsoever. He does.
Not one of these differences has anything to do with the man’s faith or belief in a higher being. Why so many on my side of the aisle — the political right — pass judgment on others in such condescending, antagonistic, divisive terms is beyond me. Even more remarkable, those same individuals are the first ones to cry foul when someone from the Progressive Left or Green movement engages in the exact same behavior toward them.
On a planet of nearly 7 billion people, roughly 2/3 believe in something other than Christianity. Are they all wrong? Were our polytheistic ancestors all morons, too? Who here is capable of knowing the exact “truth” of our existence with absolute certainty? Demonizing and attempting to discredit others for merely holding different religious beliefs — or claiming to know their fate in a supposed “after life” — is about as reckless as it gets.
There are a lot of valid reasons to oppose Barack Obama and the Progressive Left politically…religious faith — or lack thereof — is not one of them. That tactic only serves to make those of us on the conservative right look small, desperate and hypocritical.
Miami
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:54amLet’s see…?
Maher calls him a humanist like his mom and that seems to go over fine with the left coast audience. Skipping over the fact that she was a known “Communist” which is how she came around to her lack of faith as most Communist of the time. You know the little red church and all…and the fact that she sent him ( BHO ) to live with Frank Marshall Davis ( Also a known Communist ) because she was having trouble with her second husband. It turned out he wasn‘t as Marxist as she would’ve like, to be influencing him with evil capitalist ideas was more than she could bare. So off he went…
And yet the professor was fine with that but to call him a Muslim was an insult? So
Communist/Humanist is fine but Muslim is CRAZY TOWN. Yet as we‘ve seen in the last few days they’re side by side and working together…. Hey didn’t he write “ I would side with Muslims if push came to shove ” but I guess those are just words on a page….
But he is fine with the “ Muslim Brother Hood ” as he and his minions have been trying to convince the world that they are peace loving people.
Wet is dry and cold is hot, did you happen to catch that pig flying over the White House…?
Report Post »Miami
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 4:27amBeej13
The answer is simple, as Marxist/Communist declared war on Faith quite some time ago. As did Che Guevara teachings of “Revolutionary of Liberation” which a base dr James Cone’s “Black Liberation Theology” you know Obama’s “Church”
People faith or lack there of is not a problem, It’s what they disguise as faith. As Radical Muslims disguise their murderous hate as faith, As Hitler did with the Jewish people or even Christians did during the dark ages.
The only common formula in all these murderous era’s, are the evils of man. It’s like blaming the music for killing or pictures for rape. Men as well as women have always had more than enough evil to do the most horrible of crimes against humanity with or without any assistance.
Report Post »Enuff Zenuff
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 4:48am.
If Maher thinks he knows what is in other men’s hearts and that he can reveal what their true religious beliefs are, then Maher believes that he himself is God!
Duh! That would explain his lack of humility, but it’s strange behavior for Mr. Religulous
Report Post »Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 5:28amMaher is a damn communist.
It’s SO EASY to figure them all out once you put them into the CORRECT CATEGORY.
Report Post »Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 5:31amPS: Dont’ forget this: Under Communism it is ILLEGAL to believe in God. That is exactly why all the effing big leftists in America are SO AGAINST BELIEF IN GOD these days.
They MUST demean and diminish any persons belief in God in order to CONVERT THEM TO THEIR RELIGION WHICH IS COMMUNISM.
Start studying the past. It‘s the only way to figure out what’s going on today because they are SO BENT ON LIES AND MISINFORMATION that the only method we have of figuring out JUST WHAT THEY ARE UP TO AND ABOUT is by studying history on THE TOPIC OF COMMUNISM AND IT’S INFILTRATION INTO AMERICAN INSTITUTIONS.
Report Post »roguetea
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 5:37amrogue, Truth, Eternal Argument
Consistency is required of any and all faith whether it atheism, theism, deism, animism or the man-in-the-moon-ism. It is no accident that faith is demonstrated by being… faithful. Consistency is paramount. Show me truth that has no consistency.
The fact that a national argument still wages over what faith is observed in the WH, blatantly declares there is no faith in the WH. That is, there is no consistency that governs both personal words and deeds. To a large degree it does not matter what faith lives in the WH, though who amongst us wishes to be governed by a Radical Islamist, or a Devil Worshiper, or Dope Head-ist, or a Religious Switch Hitter.
Call it religion, faith, personal philosophy, convictions, guiding principles… we all have that stuff, we all need it to live daily lives. How we govern ourselves, our associations and ultimately those who’s cares we hold in trust, is governed by that type of stuff. Government rests on religious underpinnings and that includes atheism. The worst faith in the world is the one born our of immediate convenience. And I suggest the worst government flows out of that sort of faith, the WH.
This debate will never end because the WH is a Religious Switch Hitter. Why do you think CHANGE is the essential word? The problem with the worship of CHANGE is that their is no consistency, no faith, no truth beyond what is begged, borrowed or stolen for the need of any given moment. Inconsistency never makes good government, either privately or publicly. This topic is the heart of the problem and that is why it will not go away and it is always super critical.
Report Post »tea party, Own 11, ROGUE ON
I CHOOSE THE RED PILL MR PRESIDENT
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 5:59amThere’s only one problem with this headline. Bill Maher is not major.
Report Post »glorious
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 6:28amMy response exactly.
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 6:47amhes the burgermeister-meisterburger
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 6:48amhes the king of the world, ma
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 6:50amI dont know about that. Obama has said“ the most beautiful sound in the world is the call to prayer at sunset” sounds like Islam to me
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 6:55amand another thing. if Obama was a muslim when he was a kid and he said he found Jesus Christ in Rev Wrights church, wouldnt the muslims hate him for leaving Islam? But they adore him. Do you think he has used takea and they know it? Takea in Islam means you can lie to justify the ends.
Report Post »Jimtt500
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 8:27amex-CIA Agent Reveals: “Muslim Brotherhood” has infiltrated Obama Administration
http://notalemming.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/ex-cia-agent-reveals-muslim-brotherhood-has-infiltrated-obama-administration/
Report Post »proudpatriot77
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 8:55amDRGONZ- I actually agree with you about Obama. That is the real Obama. My question is then why would you support someone who is being so blatantly fake just to win elections? If Obama is as smart as you and the other progressives think, why cant he convince all those “dummies” out there that his ways are the right ways?
Report Post »Channel3
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 9:13amObama has been a strong supporter and advocate of Late Term Partial Birth Abortion. LTPBA is basically murdering a child by crushing it’s skull as soon as the head is delivered. No follower of Christ would support that.
Judge a tree by it’s fruit.
Report Post »rodamaa
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 9:15amAnother shock statement from an otherwise insignificant TV personality with delusion of grandeur. I have spent more time on this than it deserve. But he is right in one way and not in another. Have you guys checked out what Black Liberation Theology is? In my opinion, it is Marxism shrouded in a Christian theme. I believe it is not a religion but a cult.
Black Liberation Theology was inspired by Liberation theology which arose in the third world — specifically Latin America catholic church– Where it lost traction because the Pope referred to it as demonic. But that did not keep James Cone from adopting it as the only valid religion of the oppressed blacks in America.
Yea, those words have such a familiar ring– the oppressed– Every communist dictator or thug uses those same words all the time.
Report Post »EP46
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 9:20amWe have SEEN several different videos and HEARD obama say over and over that he believes in collective salvation. That IS NOT a Christian belief. But, that is only what we have seen and heard him say…we should not believe our eyes or ears.
Report Post »exdem
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 9:20amAnd Maher is not really a comedian, just a delusional, angry progressive.
Report Post »DSN397
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 9:28amAnyone who says or writes “If an ill wind blows, I will side with the Muslim’s”, is a muslim. We can rest assured that he’s not a Jew, the way he threw them under the bus. Neither am I, but I feel for them.
Report Post »Soldier4Christ
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 9:35amBill Maher is dirt. Whether you agree with him on the subject or not, you should join me in BOYCOTTING HBO UNTIL THIS SLIME BUCKET IS REMOVED !!!! Join the cause pleeeeeeaaaaasseeee!!!!
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 9:35amTo Beej13 Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:41am
“Actually, I believe Obama is simply a run-of-the-mill atheist…nothing more.”
I wish to God that was simply the case and you were right. The problems seem to be the promotion that B.O. gives Muslims, like his continual bowing to them, and the cancellation of the National Day of Prayer while scheduling a Muslim day of prayer (that was around September 20 or 25th, I think).
I keep asking myself why the two questions of his citizenship (birth) and his religion keep coming up, and it’s because of how he acts. While there will always be conspiracy theorists, and I am not one of them, there are too many issues that don’t make sense.
Okay, we know that FDR was handicapped and always carefully photographed to keep the general public unaware of this. It’s documented and no big secret now. JFK‘s medical records were carefully hidden so that people would not know that he had Addison’s Disease. But we knew their parentage, we knew their names, we knew their religions and it wasn’t much of a issue. Kennedy’s Catholicism became less of an issue once he was in office and both men hid their womanizing well.
B.O. comes out of the gate with major questions (CT Social Security #; adoption by a non-U.S. step parent and subsequent name change; destruction of his mother’s passport records; no information on his own passport, foreign school records listing him as Muslim and a host of other questions, including family members who have stated that he was born in Kenya).
And these issues added to the ones that you listed which are all legitimate concerns result in enormous questions that probably will never be answered. When you look at the whole package, the guy is a perfect quisling. God help us all.
Report Post »Soldier4Christ
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 9:38amAnyone who pays to have HBO is attributing to this morons message. Join me in Boycotting HBO for having this guy on there.
Report Post »HippoNips
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 9:41amSo will ABC , CBS , NBC and CNN do segments on how crazy Bill Maher is?
Report Post »If peope who think he’s Muslim, despite him saying he’s Christian over and over, are total batshiot crazy, than people who think he’s a secular humanists are too
Jim in Houston
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 9:43amBill Maher is not a major TV host, he is a major jerk; however, this is one time I agree with him.
Report Post »ATexasFan
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 9:49amNo wonder he says he didn’t “hear” his minister..for 20 YEARS!!!!!
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chazman
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 9:51amHussein Obama can say he’s a Christian all he wants. It‘s OK for a Muslim like him to lie to anyone who isn’t a Muslim! Comon, people! Geez!
Report Post »Independent Tess
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 10:07amDid Hell just freeze over?
Report Post »This must be the only time I have ever (gulp) agreed with Bill Maher……oh, the shame…….
truthbetold11
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 10:07amthis will be a pre strike to get him photo opps at a church soon enough propagada central
Report Post »oldoldtimer
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 10:09amHow come Obama suddenly got religion after the 2010 election? All he is doing is using it to sucker the religious independents and to make them think he is just like them . Which he is not. If you think he has damaged this country in just 2 years you ain’t see nothing yet if he gets 4 more years to write Executive orders and write regulations. What does he care what Congress does? he just bypasses them on evrey thing any way. Sorry to say Congress has made their selves irrelevent. People too lazy to vote have allowed the progressives to get too big a hold on gov’t. Autside of a revolution the only way to take it back is for that 60% that have niot voted to vote in 2012. Other wise Obama had enough groups and money to win the election. If he wins in 2012 this country is DEAD as a republic.
Report Post »Abby Normal
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 10:41amThe head monkey speaks again, like I’ve said many times before, if you think you are a monkey you are one. So to all you athiest mokeys out there….oooh, oooooh, ooooh, ahhhh, ahhhhh, ahhh, screach, screach, schreach. This in monkey talk means – you all will be having your come to Jesus moment too late! bunch of apes…
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 10:54amMaher either does not want to believe that Obama‘s Islamic Muslim education as a young child in a Catholic school in Indonesia was not learned or Maher doesn’t want to believe that Obama is just putting on an act for another chance at the White House.
@adjams
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:05am
This story is deceptive. Bill is not a major TV host.
AMEN! AMEN! and AMEN!!!
Report Post »indy1
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 10:57amFirst time I’ve agreed with that egotistical lib jerk.
Report Post »123gone
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 11:07amSilly people !! You don’t see it – The arrogant SOB thinks HE is God !!
Report Post »incredulous
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 11:17amoh, so now bill maher is a major tv host? usually, anything he says is bashed on this site, and on faux nation. But now that he says that obama is a secular humanist, rather than a christian, the blaze is all over it. Remember this blaze, Bill Maher is a MAJOR tv host. You’ve now given him a status that has to be recognized and no longer marginalized.
Report Post »Cobra Blue
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 11:18amNow…will the lame stream media label Maher as a racist for his comments against Obama? Will Whoopie (I’m not a racist) Goldberg on the View (hen club) say that he just doesn;’t like Obama because he is black? Will he be disowned by the liberal progressives for his comment against their sacred president? Let’s see if they rake him over the coals as they would you and me. Where is Al (never worked a day in my life) Sharpton and Jesse “shake down”: Jackson? The NAACP? Congressional Black Caucus? Speak up! We are all waiting with baited breathe.
Report Post »PSDSAINT
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 11:25amFor once I agree with Bill Maher. Obama is NO Christian how could he be voting 3 times for third tri-mester abortion while he was in the senate. Also how can he worship God when he thinks he IS God!
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 11:34amI have to agree. It’s pretty much understood that whatever obama “is” he isn’t Christian.
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 11:46amOutland@ thanks for the correct spelling for Taqiya. I had only heard of this and not seen how it was spelled. We all need to educate ourselves. NOW
Report Post »hud
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 11:47amHey, this ***** finally got something right this century
Report Post »orkydorky
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 12:05pmI thought he was the anti-Christ, does my opinion count?
Report Post »White Devil
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 12:19pmA Christian doesn’t “struggle” with homosexual marriage. Scripture is clear, the matter is settled. Any Christian who is a supporter of murdering helpless babies who‘s right to live is being taken away should explain it though God’s Word how they can support that. They can’t.
Report Post »mcfinch
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 12:21pmYes it could only be him.
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Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 12:45pmDuh is right. He might not be Muslim either. But one thing is for sure and indisputable, he’s a liar. As for Bill Maher, he‘s just a 5’2″ punk with a severe Napoleon Complex from receiving countless wedgies on the play ground as a kid.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 1:13pmbbquizzle.. Ya I caught that.. NOW Obama is STEALING wording from Regan.. this man is a skitso.. he changes who he wants to be like more than most people change underwear.. With that ONE thing he made himself a BIGGER laughing stock than he was before..
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 1:14pmcheezwhiz.. aren’t you dizzy yet from all your spinning???
Report Post »AOOP
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 1:19pmYou have to live it to be it….neauxbama does not live a Christian life.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 1:56pmOuted by Bill Maher.What I find interesting is Mahers slip of the tongue about how Obama and politicians in general create the image of how they want people see them. It’s like waring make-up but instead of colors it’s images of their words and what they would like you to believe about them. Obama needs to be seen as a Christian because it is politically expedient to his career.
Report Post »SemperFi1775
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:02pmHi MARINE RECON DAD…. I had the same thought but used a different word…. As Homer would say “Doh!” You know, I really don’t care what his religion is. It’s just not important to me. I just hope that America wakes up (in large numbers) and votes him out of office. We got some of our hopes met with the 2010 elections and now look forward to 2012. I’m not sure where your son is stationed, but my family and I wish him the best and pray that he gets home safe and soon. I thank him (and all Service men and women) for his service to our great country.
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WTH
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:33pmI think calling Bill Haher a “Major TV Host” is real stretch of the true.
Report Post »docvet
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 2:38pmMahar is probably right, Obama is a “1984ian” (re George Orwell).
Report Post »Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:00pmWell at least Mr. Screwtape is right. Let’s keep him around a little longer, He is still useful.
Report Post »keaton
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:17pmWhen Barak Obama talked About his Muslim faith to George Stephanopolis, it was an innocent mistake. I know myself and my Christian friends make the that mistake all the time!
Report Post »SRM152
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:26pmOn this I have to say I agree with Maher. I would be surprised if the obamanation even believes in a god. Certainly not the Holy Trinity or allah; either would require far too much faith in an entity other than himself. Humanism would be much more congruent with his narcissism and hubris. In this Maher sees much of himself in the obamanation.
Report Post »home_of_the_brave
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 3:27pmIt’s ok for Bill Maher to say B.O. isn‘t a Christian but if a conservative comes out and says it O’Donnell comes out swinging asking to see our Christian ID card. Where does O’Donnell weight in on this little insight. My guess is he won’t. The world is just now figuring out what conservatives knew from pretty much the beginning. Mark 7:6 talks about hypocrites- “These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.“ God says of the man of sin ”you will know him by his deeds.”
Report Post »robertjjbs
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 4:08pmWhat difference does it make what religion (or no religion) the President of the United States believes in? The Constitution specifically states that there shall be no religious qualification for any political position. Some day we will elect a Muslim president and guess what? Life will simply go on as it always has. We will so some smart things and some stupid things. Some people will be rich and some poor. Some people will believe in a god and some will not.
Report Post »audaxrex
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 4:38pm…how on Earth can anybody know what another believes and claim to hold them to account for it? It’s conjecture. AND, by the way, there is no reason why someone cannot be a secular humanist AND a practicing Christian at the same time. At the secular or non-religious level they’re humanist, believing in the public good and working to improve it. On the personal, spiritual level they have their belief that Jesus died for their sins. And theyare under no obligation to prove their faith to anyone. That’s between a person and their creator. Read Matthew 6.6.
Report Post »Actually, I’d like to see a few more of these public Christians adopt secular humanist values – compassion, charity, acceptance.
watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 4:52pmSo Bill is saying that (a) Obama is lying to America about being a Christian to further his political career and needed to deceive the masses or (b) Obama isn’t smart to know the difference between a secular humanist and a Christian. Either answer doesn’t particularly put him in the greatest light does it????
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 4:58pm@ DRGNZ…..so are you actually admitting that Obama is actively engaged in misleading and deceiving the American public to enact an agenda that he know if he was completely honest about would be almost impossible to accomplish because the majority of America would reject his positions????? WOW dude welcome the conservative club. That’s exactly how most of us feel about it too. Very interesting !!!
Report Post »avenger
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 5:11pmI could give a rats azs…owe bama is a radical marxist…end of story.
Report Post »Kalish
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 5:17pmHe has done nothing but ridicule the bible, but he did quote the koran in arabic in appreciation and sing the songs quite well also, He does not beleive that Jesus Christ is what saves you, he believes that doing something to advance social justice and/or Liberation Theology.
Report Post »home_of_the_brave
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 5:27pm@Audrarex
Read my earlier post on hypocrites which God defines as “one who worships with his lips but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in VAIN, they’re teachings are merely human rules.”
Report Post »Mark 7:6
Humanist= an outlook or system of thought attaching prime importance to human rather than divine or supernatural matters. or is Webster wrong?
home_of_the_brave
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 5:28pm@Audaxrex
Which is it? You can’t have it both ways at least not according to Mark 7:6
Report Post »missionarydad
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 6:45pmMy question is if he wasn’t a Muslim why would he change his name to Barack Husein Obama which is a Muslim name? Mohammad Ali changed his name after he became a Muslim which used to be Cassius Clay. Kareem Abdul- Jabbar changed his name which was Lew Alcindor before he converted, and I have never heard of anyone changing their name to a Muslim name without first being Muslim. If anyone can give me some examples or reasons of others who have or reasons why he would I will stand corrected. That being said I just am not sure what his real faith is, but I do know that I smell a rat in the wood pile somewhere, something is just not right and my gut says he at a very minimum hasn’t been honest on that or the controversy with his birth certificate, and I do not consider myself a birther. These are almost minor issues compared to many other things that disturb me a great deal more.
Report Post »Beej13
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 6:53pm@Miami
Understood. I see Obama’s use of faith to be less a disguise for sinister intentions, however, than a clumsy attempt to improve his public image through pandering. Like Pelosi — who trots out her Catholic upbringing whenever it seems to serve her purpose — Obama is not believable. In both instances, it comes across as forced and insincere.
Compare that to George W. Bush, who wore his faith on his sleeve. To many Americans, that was disconcerting and offensive. To the majority of us, however, it was reassuring to know where he stood at all times and that his principles were deeply rooted and based on something more than the latest Gallup poll. When Dubya invoked his personal beliefs as justification for his position on a controversial issue like the expansion of taxpayer-funded research on embryonic stem cells, most Americans could identify with him and understand why he held that position…even if they didn’t ultimately agree with his decision. It was principled and well-established.
With Obama, the Administration’s positions can change on a daily basis with no real explanation or pattern of consistency. I don’t give the President enough credit to conclude that his use of faith is designed to hide some evil master plan. Rather, I see him as a political neophyte who’s in way over his head. All of his knowledge comes from “book learnin’”…not actual management, business or military experience.
In addition, he’s a narcissist. Contrary to his public protestations, high disapproval ratings bother him immensely. He does not take criticism well and he will never admit that he’s wrong. So, he surrounds himself with like-minded “yes-men” who are equally unqualified to hold public office. As a result, we get bone-headed decisions, puzzling rationalities and contradictory public statements out of this White House.
What you’re seeing now with his expression of “faith” is simply Obama v2.0. Post-Election 2010, he’s scrambling to find a way to identify with Democrats and Independents who have abandoned him in droves. He’ll try invoking Christianity for a while. If that doesn’t work — and it won’t — he’ll move on to something else. This is all about boosting his job approval numbers and expanding his base as he gears up for 2012. I honestly don’t see anything more than that…a shrewd, insincere political ploy.
Report Post »Beej13
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 6:56pm@Taquoshi
I understand and sympathize with all the concerns you mentioned. They are very real and very upsetting to those of us who expect a higher level of honesty, integrity and openness from our elected officials.
We don’t need to know his SAT scores or his cholesterol reading, but a lot of us would like to know how a self-described “C”-student who, admittedly, dabbled in drugs wound up at Columbia and Harvard Law School. He didn‘t come from a wealthy family and his grades weren’t sufficient to receive a full academic scholarship.
My belief is that Barack Obama applied for — and received — financial assistance through various loans and grants by claiming to be a foreign-born student of African heritage. Regardless of the actual truth surrounding his birth, it would be EXTREMELY difficult and uncomfortable to explain that one away now.
Either he is a foreign-born citizen of Kenya — ineligible to run for president — or he is a natural-born American citizen who lied on financial aid applications. Neither one is something he — or the corrupt national media that protects him — would want the public to know.
Then again, I could be completely wrong.
That’s the problem…no one can answer any of the questions you raised with absolute certainty. So, we’re left to wonder…
Report Post »Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 8:24pmI’ve long believed Obama is an atheist. And since I also believe he is a socialist/communist, it fits.
Under communism, it’s against the law to believe in God. Communists believe in ‘man’, e.g: the state.
Report Post »DisillusionedDaily
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 8:36pmLift the horse’s tail and look closely to see Bill Maher.
Report Post »piper22
Posted on February 12, 2011 at 10:40pmBEEJ13:
” Why so many on my side of the aisle — the political right — pass judgment on others in such condescending, antagonistic, divisive terms is beyond me.”
It comes down to this–although maybe my righty cohorts may not be able to express it this way:
Report Post »At the core of the Christian faith is something called the “Fruits of the Spirit” which are exhibited in someone truly reflecting Christ. Obama does not appear to be exhibiting these fruits in his words and actions. So either he claims to be a Christian and appears to be failing at the Fruits of the Spirit, or he is not a Christian and is therefore LYING about who he is. Either way, that is why his “religion” becomes a problem for me in addition to his policies. I really wouldn’t care if he was a humanist or atheist if he could at least be honest about it.
rattler1958
Posted on February 13, 2011 at 12:29amHe is a racist muslim leaning radical christian that has never sat and realy read to BIBLE. Read his book. Hes mad about his dad, Look who he supports. Look it up. Its out there. Lots of “crap” on some “carrier” politions on both sides also. Term limits and 0 lobby jobs for 5yrs. No big oil, big bank, etc. jobs. Get real people to run the country. They will find where the $$$$ really goes.
Report Post »judg724
Posted on February 13, 2011 at 12:54amI think this is the first time in history that I agree with Maher. Of course the only reason he is so bold about this proclamation is the old saying “It takes one to know one”, and Maher makes himself feel better if he has some company in his secular humanist religion. I wonder if he knows that the courts have referred to secular humanism as a religion. I thought Maher looked down on religion, who knew, he’s a religious fanatic!
Report Post »joseph Fawcett
Posted on February 13, 2011 at 1:51amI have never believed that Obama is a Christian, I don’t believe he hold dear to any religion. If he were a true Christian then he would have a love for Israel and be standing up for her. He is not, he is siding with the Islamist and aiding and abetting them to get into a position against her. When he talks about his faith and refers to God, it is not geniune or sincere. Being a Christian myself, I can reconize a brother in Christ. He is not one. I think his going to church and words stating that he is a Christian are for votes in 2012. I hate to admit this I think Bill is right on this one. He should know he is Obama’s biggist fan.
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Report Post »BoiseBaked
Posted on February 13, 2011 at 5:28pmI posted it before and I’ll post it again. Who cares what Maher says? Why is what this wack job says deemed as important enought to post on theBlaze, or anywhere else for that matter. I don’t get it. Let the guy fade away into obscurity.
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Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:12am“Thinks Obama Is Not Really a Christian”
He also is NOT the President (from a YouTube video):
“The mixed-race Kényan called Barack Hussein Obama, A.K.A. Barry Obama, A.K.A. Barry Soétoro (that’s right, illegal alien).
The OBAMACRIMES website (and the lawsuits to force the production of Obama/Soétoro’s withheld birth certificate) “was created after research indicated that Barack Obama is not a ‘natural born’ citizen or a Citizen of the United States as required by the United States Constitution to be eligible for the Office of President.” -attorney Philip J. Bérg (registered Democrat)”
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