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Guru Deepak Chopra Endorses Big Bang, Says ‘There Was No Time Before Creation’

Following Deepak Chopra’s viewpoints and theoretical constructs can be quite confusing — especially if you’re trying to track with him a long period of time. The Indian medical doctor, public speaker, author, blogger, spiritual analyst and Twitter enthusiast (did I miss anything?) has written more than 50 books, penned a ton of blog posts and news articles, and has sent (as of 10 a.m. ET this morning) 17,068 Tweets. In a sense, he’s everywhere and discussing practically everything.

Yesterday, the all-around guru Tweeted the following message to his 555,672 followers:

Guru Deepak Chopra Endorses Big Bang, Says There Was No Time Before Creation

While Twitter doesn’t offer much room to expound beyond 140 characters, this Tweet seems to indicate that he embraces the following:

  • The Big Bang is the hub of “instant creation,” in which everything came into being at one, particular moment
  • Chopra does not embrace the notion that God created the world in “6 days and a day of rest”
  • And, the bombshell: “…there was no time before creation.”

It is this last point that seems problematic when pitted against some of the guru’s former writings and statements. If one assumes that there was no time before the Big Bang occurred, the notion of a “God” seems implausible. This goes back to the “there had to be something before nothing” debate.

Pinning Chopra’s thoughts down on the matter of universal creation is extremely difficult. When discussing the “God particle” in a June 2010 Huffington Post piece, he wrote:

Physical forces cannot explain such exquisite order, much less the meaning we derive from it, which is why God came into being. The God particle delivers the tiniest bits of the clock but not the maker. I do not mean that an actual person in the sky made the universe. Keeping strictly with the scientific worldview, the maker must be impersonal, intelligent, universal, invisible, yet manifest in the visible world. The only viable candidate is consciousness…

As science continues to probe the exotic and extreme reaches of physics we can take some comfort that we are actually coming closer to understanding what is most intimate to us, our own consciousness, our self. The tangible springs from the intangible, and that intangible is what we are and what we call God.

Confused? You’re not alone. Back in August 2005, Chopra also discussed the universe’s origins, slamming both “fundamentalist Christians” and evolutionists for politicizing the debate. In his analysis, he presented a number of challenges to consider and claimed that the universe does, indeed, have “intelligence” in its design:

…progress is being discouraged, I imagine, thanks to fundamentalist Christians. By hijacking the whole notion of intelligent design, they have tarred genuine scientific issues with the stain of religious prejudice.

In a piece posted the next day, Chopra wrote:

Before there is intelligence in action, there is the potential for intelligence. This must precede the Big Bang and still exists at a subtle level of Nature.

This seemingly contradicts the Tweet he sent today. If there was no time before creation, as he contends, then how could intelligence have preceded the Big Bang?

But, this is par for the course. Chopra is an intellectual who is looking for answers, while embracing some potentially odd possibilities (depending on who you’re speaking to). Below, watch Chopra discuss the theory that we exist in a “holographic universe” that may be projected by a “2D flatscreen” with Dr. Stuart Hameroff (yes, they are discussing the possibility that we are all part of an elaborate hologram):

Thoughts?

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  • DoctorRon
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:10pm

    Very few Christians accept “six days” as literal. God is not subject to human time and space. It does not matter how long it took God to create the Universe. HOWEVER it cas created, God did it.

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    • hi
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:39pm

      So you are saying you believe God created by evolving? That doesn’t make sense because after the universe and man was created, God said “it is good.”

      Evolutionist theory holds that there was a lot of death, destruction, and suffering before man evolved.

      So, why would a Holy God say all of that death, disease, destruction and suffering was “good?”

      Death, Destruction, and suffering did not enter until man sinned.

      People don’t realize that God did create the perfect universe. The sin of man sent it spiraling downward. But, He always had a plan of redemption, Jesus Christ.

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    • PatrioticAmericanDad
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 1:13pm

      DOCTORRON
      I agree with you. Some of my very fundamentalists choose to believe the Bible literally. They ignore the facts of translations, and the canonization process, pagan influences and that it was written by mortals. The Bible is much more powerful when viewed through the individuals intellect reflections in metaphorical terms. Somehow they have to decide what is correct to believe. That is where they lose me.

      HI
      Look I don’t want to tell you that I presume to know better than you what you should believe, For me, God created the context, the construct we live in. He also created, as you say the attributes we have as human beings. One of those is intellect. I don’t think it is valid for science to marginalize our spiritual beliefs, and likewise I don’t think that us believers can marginalize science. What we know and consider as proven scientific facts MUST be in harmony with what we believe, else we deem our GOD given intellect irrelevant. Sometimes we just can’t reconcile the two. That’s called being a puny human being.

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    • hi
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 2:02pm

      patrioticamericandad The Bible is always backed up by science as you see in my other posts. Science IS in harmony with what we believe!

      Science cannot prove millions of years. It is a theory. For information from scientists who are PhD’s in Physics, Mathematics, Biology,dating techniques, and so on, go to icr.org, or answersingenesis.org.

      God created science.

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    • hi
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 2:10pm

      Patrioticamericandad There are ALWAYS assumptions made with dating techniques. for example, that the status quo always was and there was never any catastropic events that could have affected the sample.

      Look at Mount St. Helen. It made 1/40th of a mini Grand Canyon in less than 24 hours. It looks just like the GC with all of the layers. It didn’t take millions and millions of years to form.

      Look at the polystrate fossils, or trees that stand up straight through supposedly millions and millions of years at the Grand Canyon. They are found all over the world. Do you think the tree stood there for millions and millions of years and eventually became fossilized? (since each layer is allegedly millions of years)

      There is so much science that backs up the Bible and one never needs to fear it won’t be consistant.

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  • PatrioticAmericanDad
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:09pm

    Deepac, in the old days used to talk about “Spontaneous Correct Action”. The example he gave in his discussions was a man in an elevator thinking about needing to see a certain person, and because he was in harmony with the universe, living an authentic life or some such, the person of interest would be standing there when the elevator doors open.

    While I do believe that God can answer prayers and things can happen according to our wishes, they usually don’t. When they don’t, why don’t they? God’s plan may be too complex to for us to understand.

    I am disappointed with him and have lost most of the respect I had for him. It is easy to make outrageous unprovable statements. The assault that his ilk is making against Christianity is troubling. Science and spiritual beliefs should be harmoneous, but the fact that I can‘t hear the harmony doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

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    • PatrioticAmericanDad
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 2:42pm

      HI
      I am still in search for my spiritual roots. Everything that informs me tells me that there is a supreme being in charge. How I perceive it, what I feel in my heart and soul about it is something very personal and I just don’t discuss it. I am against any group‘s opinion that their’s is the only way. i flat out reject it. I will accept any heartfelt belief of others, as long as they don’t hurt anyone including themself. I read the Bible as it is an accessible source of moral teachings, sometimes hard to understand with out some research and contemplation. I also am a student of the Tao, or “The Great Way”. I am informed by these and many other spiritual teachings, but am not married to none. I have always tried to live by the motto, ‘Do the right thing, and try to leave the world a better place that I found it’.

      I do not consider myself an Atheist. I try the best I can to stand where God wants me to stand. I stand with the founders of this country.

      God bless us everyone.

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  • CDBrandon82
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:05pm

    I have a hard time believing anyone that pumps out that much information. When does he have time to do research? I don’t know anything about this guy, and I don’t think I will be wasting any time trying to learn…

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  • Falcon11
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:05pm

    Well I’m glad we finally got that controversy settled. What’s next?

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  • 4XGrace
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:03pm

    At least he has got half of the truth … there was indeed no time before God created the Universe … and there will be no time after he has done with this present creation. Thank God this creation is limited by time.

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  • elosogrande
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:03pm

    Another buffoon educated far beyond his capacity to use the education. His thinking will come around sooner or later, because there are no atheists in hell.

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  • Watson
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:02pm

    This guy is a D_ _ K like Obama….

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  • Taxpayer550
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:01pm

    In a sense, part of Chopra’s statement is correct. There was no time before God created it.

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  • harumph
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:00pm

    God certainly transcends the 4th dimension. Without the Universe, God would have had no need for it. Seems logical, given that thought process.
    But, do I think that was Chopra’s understanding and intent with the statement? Not in the least.

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  • suffolkva
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:59am

    “The Indian medical doctor, public speaker, author, blogger, spiritual analyst and Twitter enthusiast (did I miss anything?)”

    Yes, you did: Bu****it artist.

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  • tommy_pete
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:57am

    There surely must be a GOD and HE has an extraordinary sense of humor. After all, HE created liberals…

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:19pm

      EXCELLENT!!! YOU win the POST OF THE DAY prize!!! Thanks for the laugh.
      Let’s pray for these poor Atheists… Satan is loving what they think…he knows it will destroy them.

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  • Country
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:55am

    Ummm, God created science.

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  • Jenny Lind
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:55am

    If you want the opposing view go to http://www.andiesisle.com/creation/magnificent.html Be sure and turn your speakers up and I hope you smile like I did. God bless

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    • vennoye
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 1:31pm

      Thank you. What an awsome video…..needed it today!

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    • adouglass1
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 2:21pm

      Thank you yes that was awesome and so true. Cant wait to get home and show my kids and wife. The educated self important types have been led to believe that God does not exist. And they try to make you believe if you are educated that you should not worship God or believe in him notice I said God not religion to the lame loser trolls. Im very educated and believe in God, I give the GLORY to GOD that I am/was fortunate to receive an education. Yes its true that a child is inspiring and more of us adults should try to be like children in some things.

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  • Blackop
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:51am

    Nothing by ad hominems.

    Science is full of idiots. Witness the computers, networks, electricity we use to call them out.

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    • hi
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:31pm

      That IS science. But, origins is not. Also, scientists cannot create life and they can’t define it. “Millions of years” is magic, not science.

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  • UBETHECHANGE
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:50am

    God created the world in “6 days and a day of rest” Uh yea sure.

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:12pm

      Does a creative day have to be 24 hours? Could it be longer, like a thousand years as the Bible says?
      You speak foolishly and without knowledge my friend.

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    • hi
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:28pm

      God can do anything! 6 days is Truth.

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 1:12pm

      here is another bit of information on the creative “days”.
      In Genesis 2:4 all the six days of creation are lumped together into a “time” and that time is called “a day”, a single day!
      So we can understand that a “day” to our Creator God can mean any length of time he wants it to be, and we can consider the times as epochs or periods of time that He determines, not us. We are not qualified to put time limits on the almighty God.

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    • hi
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 1:52pm

      Outside Genesis 1, yom is used with the word “evening” or “morning” 23 times. “Evening” and “morning” appear in association, but without yom, 38 times. All 61 times the text refers to an ordinary day. Why would Genesis 1 be the exception?1
      From AnswersinGenesis.org

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  • C. Schwehr
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:50am

    Here we have another case of “transferrence” wherein a person who operates adequately in one scientific field tries to make himsel look like an expert in an entirely different field in which this person has absolutely no trainingt or experience…His opinion is no more valid than a street corner drunk!

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  • GodBlessAmericaandIsrael
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:50am

    Instead of replacing the 6 days of creation and the day of rest, I think that Chopra’s followers should except the fact that there is intelligent design, the designer being our Father, the Father of Jesus Christ. The big bang and everything that follows IS his creation. If the big bang happened, it was because God willed it and it is the way he created our universe. Which is nothing special compared to his Kingdom, which is invinite. From a invinite nature came the time we know here on earth.

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    • Erabin
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:00pm

      And next time on Story Time, we have…

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    • joe1234
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 3:12pm

      next on story time is the racist atheist fairy tale of evolution….

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    • HUNITHUNIT
      Posted on July 1, 2011 at 5:28pm

      English much? If you can’t avoid making simple word usage errors such as those in your post, there is no possibility that you could understand what he is talking about, much less pass judgement on his opinion.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:48am

    Oh well, if Deepak Chopra says it, it must be true huh? Get lost guru.

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    • UBETHECHANGE
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:53am

      And some man named God created the universe in 6 days and rested on the 7th. LIES!

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    • the wireworker
      Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:56pm

      And some man named God created the universe in 6 days and rested on the 7th. LIES!

      Actually God is just a Title, A Position if you will as there are many false gods and One True God, His Name Is Yahweh.
      deepak does have something right though, there was no time before creation, it’s called eternity!

      darkness does not exist in and of itself, it cannot be measured, it is the absence of light!

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:09pm

      Oh well, if Deepak Chopra says it, it must be true huh? Get lost guru.

      And if UBETHECHANGE says it , it must be true huh?

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:12pm

      You can get lost too UBETHECHANGE. I‘m not going to argue with anyone that doesn’t know the difference between a man and God.

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  • Mandors
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:47am

    This is hysterical. Many cosmologists are moving away from the zero time before the big bang theory. Now, Chopdagoopdapoop is embracing it.

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    • Falcon11
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:06pm

      Oh, I thought he was a cosmetologist.

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    • AR485
      Posted on July 1, 2011 at 7:37am

      Chopdagoopdapoop is now my word for the day. Thank you.

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  • teddrunk
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:46am

    Big Bang? LOL..well what was before that? Gawd these people are stupid. Sorry there guy, but you’d have to break a few laws of thermodynamics to create a universe that way. These people hate the idea of God, calling Him fiction, but they believe these fairy tales. I suppose just leaving rocks sit millions of years brings them to life…ROFL.

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    • FREDD The WILSON
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:55am

      Big Bang is what Obama is doing to this country and it’s economy; Otherwise known as a GANG BANG.

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    • Erabin
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:56am

      God? LOL… well, what was before that? Gawd these people are stupid. Sorry there guy, but you’d have to break a few laws of thermodynamics to create a universe that way. These people hate the idea of science, calling it fiction, but they believe these fairy tales. I suppose just snapping your divine fingers on a rock brings it to life… ROFL

      I must assume you’re a masterful troll? Because I do not believe that you were unable to see the incredible, incredible irony in what you’re writing.

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    • Gump
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:04pm

      These are the same people who believe that “absolutes” don’t exist……If there are no absolutes in the world doesn’t that make the first absolute? The first absolute is “ there are no absolutes”.

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    • teddrunk
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 3:32pm

      Fred..that also is a great point.

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  • jmbogstad
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:44am

    The “Big bang” was not about creation, it was about expansion, and it is still going on today, the universe is expanding even faster now. To call it “The Big Bang”, does not really describe it properly. You wanna see a “Big Bang”? Watch this video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On8eTIqhqRE

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  • jim
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:41am

    Chopra used to have bigger bangs before his new hair job. He looks like one of the timeless council members in Green Lantern. Wonder if he thinks string theory involves angel hair pasta? Blah… blah… I just think his accent funny.

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  • mohavegreen
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:40am

    and there’s half off fish and chips in Seligman.

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:40am

    I’ve had this guy on my radio a few times; I don‘t anymore cuz he’s an idiot. If you would like to hear me have almost as much fun as Glenn, Rush, and Laura–here ya go…www.1530kcmn.com ….I welcome all BLAZE readers.

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    • Awakened One
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:35pm

      It’s sad too. He used to have something to say many years ago. Now he’s gone all ego on us and lost his clarity.

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    • vennoye
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 1:35pm

      The more stress we have on this earth, the crazier these people are going to become. We will not be able to expect logic from them, because their confusion will have none in it.

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  • cessna152
    Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:39am

    Yeah… he thinks the “big bang” is a “Glock .45″

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    • HKS
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:45am

      Does anyone really believe in scientist anymore. I don’t believe anything that they say, no credibility.

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    • CatB
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:46am

      That’s an opinion .. pure and simple .. just like a holes everyone has one … NEXT!

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:47am

      And his experience in the field of Quantum Mechanics is WHAT?????

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    • Mandors
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:48am

      @HKS

      He’s not a scientist. He is quite literally, and without exaggeration, a BS artist.

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    • Erabin
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:48am

      “Does anyone really believe in scientist anymore. I don’t believe anything that they say, no credibility.”

      Yeah, when has science ever helped you, right?

      I mean, it’s not like you could look around and see anything science has done for you, right?

      I mean, you live in a tree, right?

      I mean, you never think before you speak, right?

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    • matt93312
      Posted on July 1, 2011 at 3:33pm

      Don’t confuse vocational scientists who create a product with these vocational “theorists” who worship at the altar of federal funding. God won’t pay for their narcissistic drivel, but Obama and company will.

      The theorists refuse to even test the claims of divine authorship, choosing rather to put their faith in what continues to be disproved by their compatriots.

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    • Big Book Harry
      Posted on July 2, 2011 at 12:37am

      Science (physics) Is the only perfect thing on this earth(execpt of course when Jesus walked on it) it’s perfectly simple the science we see is exactly the way God made it.

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    • cessna152
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:52am

      Schools are NOW teaching the “big bang” as fact. No other options…none at all. So since science (theory) is a belief, why are the schools now teaching “beliefs”? Atheism is a belief and the absence of God, all of these theories are a “belief”, so why are they teaching a “belief” (theory) as fact to our children. In other words, misleading children.

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    • Deuteronomy22
      Posted on July 1, 2011 at 9:08am

      You obviously never studied science. A scientific theory is a atatement of reproducable fact vs the use of theory as speculation.
      As far as Chopra, I really don’t expect Blazers to get it. Quantum theory. Do your own research. Time is not needed as a prerequisite for God. To God space and time are irrelavant unless you believe God is not all powerful, ever present and all knowing.

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    • SimpleTruths
      Posted on July 1, 2011 at 11:24am

      Theory is not the same as belief. Theory can be tested, proved or disproved, replaced with other theories. Beliefs are acts of faith, cannot be proved or disproved nor do they need to be.

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    • hauschild
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:53am

      This dude is really “creepy”. He’s another in the mold of a snake oil salesman, telling the majority what they want to hear, regardless of facts currently available.

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:08pm

      God Created everything…even Science. I see no conflict. HOWEVER, trying to say there is NO GOD is just plain stupid. Name one thing in the BIG BANG theory that makes sense. They conveniently say nothing came before…really? What caused their bang? Where did the material(S) that banged come from? SILLY SILLY MAN. That’s like saying except for the flour and the eggs, oil, water and the sugar I can bake a cake.
      GOD made us individually recognizable. IF we just “evolved” why don’t we all have the same fingerprints? Eye retina configuration?
      WHY do we need “emotion” or have a CONSCIENCE? Why do we need LOVE to procreate? Why is there a sense of Right and Wrong?
      SILLY SILLY CHOPRA ….. grasping at straws to try to undermine further our society. This is probably why JESUS says that many will want to get into Heaven but He doesn’t recognize them.
      EVERY PERSON ON EARTH has to make a decision. TODAY would be a good time. Either you believe in GOD, want to know more about Him, know that GOD created everything and some day more of the mysteries will be exposed to us. (IF we study GOD now, we begin to understand why some things that aren’t always so pleasant happen to us – we begin to KNOW that there is a FATHER IN HEAVEN we can not only depend on, but talk to and learn from) or or or you can believe that there is NO GOD – YOU created yourself and even though everything you see was first conceived and then designed..somehow all things jus

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    • NSDQ
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:09pm

      A man who makes his leaving touting the search for truth, can never point to it else he’s out of a job

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    • momprayn
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:11pm

      @CESSMA – Yeah, I’ve wondered about the same thing….said that re that article about HP doing that deal with creating your own religion nonsense. Progressiveism/liberalism are “religions – they already have one. Any belief system re what/how to believe re life that one lives by. So why is the Christianity belief banned from the public schools but humanism, secularism, homosexual lifestyle acceptable, etc., etc. is acceptable. This needs to be challenged, added to the long list of others.

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    • Awakened One
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:21pm

      If the God you believe in is an old man sitting on a throne, passing out judgments to his creations for their errors, it’s time to grow up. The big bang is at best an event in a physical universe. Get beyond this three dimensional perspective and consider that there is a spiritual reality that transcends this physical one. Investigate near death experiences (NDE’s), the internet is full of sites that offer excellent investigation possibilities. NDE’ers bring a clarity and perspective from their own experience that allows one to see the true relationship of spirit to matter. You owe it to yourself to know the truth. Two excellent resources NDERF and IANDS. Look them up and discover the greater reality that is life. If it frightens you, pray directly to God to be guided in your search. The truth will set you free.

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    • hi
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:24pm

      HKS I read Bill Bryson’s A History of Nearly Everything. It really shows how scientists mess up so much and how their views change constantly. Science is not pure like math.

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    • HKS
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:26pm

      Erabin
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:48am

      “Does anyone really believe in scientist anymore. I don’t believe anything that they say, no credibility.”

      Yeah, when has science ever helped you, right?

      I mean, it’s not like you could look around and see anything science has done for you, right?

      I mean, you live in a tree, right?

      I mean, you never think before you speak, right?

      Well, back in the day when science was a credible profession (as was some politicians I might add) I think that is what you are hung up on, scientist were noble, now they are political, what have they done for you lately? Global warming or freezing or something, or maybe fart control or how about cow chips. Maybe we could put a shrimp on a treadmill, now that’s important and by all means turtle tunnels are a must. In short they work for politicians just like most entertainers.

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    • DimmuBorgir
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:32pm

      I have never agreed with anything this ‘guru’ says. Just cause you‘re an old indian doesn’t make you wise.

      and the big bang and God go hand in hand. Science doesn’t know what caused the big bang. I don’t see how anti-christians don’t see the connection between a big bang and on the first day He created the heavens and earth?

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:35pm

      When did Hadji become a physicist? I don’t believe he has a qualified opinion, just a personal opinion.

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    • edcoil
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:46pm

      Cause no one had a watch.

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    • nothingbuthetruth
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:52pm

      oh look in the middle is that Depock? and on the left is that debbie Ford? The picture at the top is marxists Dahli Lama?
      http://www.agnt.org/node/22
      these people are everywhere. they have non profits and are using our taxpayer grant money to fund a lot of their programs. It is time to educate ourselves

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:57pm

      HKS
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:45am
      Does anyone really believe in scientist anymore. I don’t believe anything that they say, no credibility.
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      A book of fables written thousnads of years ago by nomads and collected and rewritten by Romans and Monks is more beleivable, than by any theory put out by men who test and retest their theories, who use math, reason and logic as proof, who have facts to back up the theories.

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:57pm

      Where did the cows come from?
      Where did the re-incarnated souls come from?
      If single-celled amoeba evolved into cows; If people are re-incarnated into people that are reincarnated into cows, then did the single-celled amoeba have souls?
      Where did the souls come from?
      What is a soul?
      If there was no time before ‘the big bang’, then when did souls come into existence?
      Did they evolve too?

      I thought he was hindu/hindi.
      Maybe I just don’t understand hinduism.

      I have to ask myself:
      Does his waning relevancy have anything to do with such ‘shocking’ news?

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    • CREUSLY
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 1:00pm

      There’s always a controversy of science over religion..and before I say anything else..I believe this dude is so full of BS that I’m really not sure how he can even function properly…but anytime science and religion are in the same conversation there‘s always a debate as to who’s right and who’s wrong..and really Einstein had it right when he said..”Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.” They can and do coexist..if Scientists would open up to the possibility of there being a God (which I‘m a christian so I know there is just sayin that most scientists won’t even think of it) then it answers a lot of their questions..and if religious people would open up to science it proves just how awesome our God really is…Just had to put that out there….

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    • hersey10
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 1:02pm

      He has ZERO credibility any more after the disgraceful comments he made comparing Palin to Chairman Mao .

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    • Gold Coin & Economic News
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 1:14pm

      True science and true Biblical religion are never in conflict. The only way a scientist can truly conflict with God‘s Word is that they either don’t understand their results or they are lying about them. What scientists see and what God created never will conflict if those that are observing are really seeking the truth.

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    • vtxphantom
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 1:16pm

      This guy is an M.D. He was licensed in California. He is out of his depth speaking about the subject.
      Why does this bonehead get press?

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    • jeffyfreezone
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 1:21pm

      Prove it Dilweed.

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    • Ronko
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 1:23pm

      I believe he’s missing one small detail, who started the big bang and I’ll answer that question with God.

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    • cessna152
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 1:27pm

      encinom
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 12:57pm

      _______________________________________________
      A book of fables written thousnads of years ago by nomads and collected and rewritten by Romans and Monks is more beleivable, than by any theory put out by men who test and retest their theories, who use math, reason and logic as proof, who have facts to back up the theories.
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      You have facts that “disprove” the Bible? How about some facts that prove the “big bang theory”? How about facts that prove evolution? If you can have a Donkey and a horse make a Mule how come Mules can’t make more Mules? Evolution? Wait… How is that? How can you prove anything YOU believe? How can schools be allowed to teach YOUR belief system? I thought belief systems were a “no no” in schools?

      Lastly, the Bible has over 350 prophecies, 25000 + manuscripts, thousand of archeological discoveries that linked the stories true. and so much more to back it up. Nothing else in HISTORY even comes close…NOTHING!

      So please prove all of your beliefs…

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    • silentwatcher
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 1:30pm

      SOME people just think too much and talk too often.

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    • captaincrunch
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 1:38pm

      I studied astronomy and cosmology and I think Deepak is wrong. For a ‘Big Bang” to happen you need something to initiate it. Therefore a previous universe collapsed into itself and at a certain point due to pressure and heat it blew apart again and started the whole process all over again. This “neither proves” the existence of God “nor disproves” the existance of God. Maybe God initiated the collapse of the previouse universe that exisited before our universe?

      Either way, something had to exist before the Big Bang to initiate it or nothing would exist, therefore the logical conclusion is something had to exist. (See Genisis, from no light there is light) (I may have gotten the first line wrong and I do not have a Bible handy at the moment)

      I belive a really, really powerful force was at work to collapse the previouse universe, call it God, gravity, God particle or Peanut Butter. Somethings going on thats much larger than our small human minds can comprehend and maybe we were not ment to comprehend everything.

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 2:00pm

      @Cessna152;

      For proof of the BIng Bang, of Evolution I am going to point to the countless peer review articles from the likes of Sagan, Hawkings and others in the field; the articles will fill book cases.

      As for the bible, they found the city of Troy in Turkey, does that mean that Odessyus fought a cyclops or prove that Athena was real? The problem I have with the Book of Mormons is that there is no historical record that proves any of the storys contained within. The Bible on the otherhand, the historical record proves the events not the hocus pocus miracles. We can see the jewish enslavement from the other records outside of the bible, the Romans were great record keepers and many of the backdrop of the New Testament can be proven. But that is it.

      There is no proof for the Garden of Edan, for the 6 day timeline of creation, for Adam and Eve, let alone most of the earliy books. To read the early books, a man’s life was measured in centuries. Even the great flood, other religions tell the same tale, the Babaylons have a tale that pre-date the bible.

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    • Joey8
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 2:03pm

      I’m a Christian and believe the big bang theory as it makes the most sense. Watched a segment of ‘The Universe’ on the big bang and all the research can say it happened, but nothing can explain what caused it to happen.

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    • Want our country back
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 2:09pm

      I lost ALL respect for this pious hypocrite after he attached Sarah Palin in a very unspiritual way…..shame on you sir….. had to donate his books because he’s not who he tries to sell himself as.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 2:14pm

      There was something before Nothing.

      The “nothing” is something.

      Yahweh doesn’t “exist”.

      Yeshua Moshiach “exists”.

      Yeshua is Yahweh in material form.

      Yeshua/Yahweh is the Creator God.

      Yeshua is alive.

      The Golden Mean Spiral is his signature.

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    • joe1234
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 2:15pm

      encicom: evolution is a racist atheist fairy tale…the fossil record doesn’t support evolution, netiher does the lab. there is no ‘junk’ dna, and vestigial organs are so much BS. Evolution is useless for science, as Coyne admits .

      evolution is nothing more than faith…for example, you cannot list the mutations that ‘evolved’ the eye…yet you believe the eye evolved….its called faith….and thats all evolution is

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    • joe1234
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 2:30pm

      oh and enc, just because we don‘t have ’independent’ proof of everything the bible says means nothing. Have you ever considered that given that the bible has never been disproven, the burden of proof is on people like you to disprove it. we don’t have independent proof of evolution, or any proof of evolution, yet you believe it.

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    • JRook
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 2:36pm

      Ok your telling me people actually feel a need to believe the 6 day thing as being literal. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that is even remotely possible. Let’s keep in mind the church still holds that there cannot be life on other planets. While I definitely believe there is a higher power at work in the universe, I know for sure humans have no idea what it is and are unable to comprehend it. To believe that old stories passed down by tribes who felt a need to explain the unexplainable to them with god, or gods depending on the tribe, provides some greater insight than what we have today is so limiting as to be absurd. Its what isn’t in the bible that limits its explanatory utility, a limitation that isn‘t made up by the strength of one’s faith in it.

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    • Truthbeliever2
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 2:47pm

      I think he researched “The Matrix” to get his info. Probably sits around playing Morphius when he’s not tweeting or writing (giving the choice of red or blue pills) infecting his readers and listeners with hi delirium.

      Hey Chopra! Any luck finding Neo? The world is at stake!!!

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    • dizzyinthedark
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 2:51pm

      This man doesn‘t know ’squat’ especially how to pick out glasses! He’s telling us WE are God–the audacity. Yeah, I believed that crap–once, didn’t make sense, answers never came, all I did was go in circles. I returned to ‘the fold’ so to speak, opened the Bible, meditated on my living room rug to allow God to speak to me and haven’t stopped since.

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 3:06pm

      ROFLMAO @ encinom –

      You point to “peer reveiws” – what a crock! this is TOO funny !!!

      First of all, you are NOT their peer – so you have no “peer reviews.”

      You MAY have published articles you can point to, but, your peers hang out in their mother’s basements with you and type on the interwebs all day.

      Now for the REALLY good part –

      Those of us who KNOW God created the universe, NEED NO PROOF! We have faith. That is all we need. Period.

      It is YOU who ‘needs proof’ – so, it is IMPOSSIBLE for you to point to “peer reviews” or even to “published works” as ‘proof’ – they are only opinion. YOU are the ones demanding proof. Then, when asked for your proof, you point to your circular logic – which in itself fails by definition.
      You cannot prove an argument via the argument – you need evidence, a hypothesis/theory, valid REPEATABLE tests, results/data, conclusions, and then you need to repeat your tests.

      Let me know when you create a new universe.

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    • jzs
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 3:15pm

      Many comment here that there must have been some force that caused the Big Bang, otherwise how could it happen? That force, that entity that created the Universe must have been God.

      If that’s your argument, my reply is: where did God come from? Is it somehow more plausible to you that an all knowing, infinitely powerful being came from nothing, than to believe that the universe came from nothing? Who created God, another God? Is it, as they say, “turtles all the way down?”

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    • Trollroll
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 3:18pm

      @JOE1234
      There are fossil records that support the theory of evolution. There are several findings of the human body progressing from a more primal state to the current state. Things such as skull changes and the like, there are also many findings of other animals as they evolved through time.
      @ Patty Henrey
      Most of the things you listed are answered in your high school science book. Genetics are the contributors to the variation of our fingerprints and eyes. As a species progresses genetics vary, that is why you didn’t come out identical to either of your parents.
      ________

      I am a theist, so don‘t think I’m an atheist from my post. There is a possibility of a God, but people that say stupid things like you two do you simply give the Atheist more firepower. Perhaps instead of scoffing at your teacher in high school the moment he said that God didn’t make everything in 6 days, you all should have payed attention in science class?
      Also, to some of you saying that scientists never stick to a story, this is often because with new findings come new hypothesis. Unlike most religions, science actually identifies errors and factual findings and adjusts accordingly.

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    • DimmuBorgir
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 3:49pm

      @ ENCINOM

      You might want to check your facts

      NO scientist have any idea what happend at the begining. They can thoerize and use models to get very very close to the begining. But you will not find a single scientist that can honestly say what happened that caused the big bang.

      having said that, stephen hawkings is an anti-theist and a hack. A true scientist doesn’t let their beliefs get in the way of facts. Hawkings constantly goes against God and tries to use science to deny His exsistence.. just remember it’s a big bang THEORY.

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    • Lawlcat001
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 4:08pm

      Pardon me for going into a southern accent, but y‘all’s crazy. Science is science, ideas are ideas. God is a scientific idea. Just making stuff up is how science started, since someone actually CHALLENGED what they were told [which is that an invisible nonsense entity WAS and IS and... OH. WAIT! That's exactly what you're all saying can't be true of the matter in the Big Bang].

      Grow up. How can you all scream so loudly over what MUSLIMS think when you guys are just as bullheaded in your beliefs, even if you aren’t out there decapitating folks for not believing you.

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    • joe1234
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 4:13pm

      trollroll…you don’t know science very well do you now? ever hear of punctuated equilibrium? hmmm? Steven Jay Gould’s theory…want to know why he came up with that theory……

      Doug: What got you started thinking about punctuated equilibrium?

      Stephen Jay Gould: It wasn’t broad philosophical or political issues as I think many people assume. It really comes right out of an operational dilemma in paleontology.

      I had been trained, as Niles Eldredge had, in statistical methods for the study of subtle changes in evolution. Evolution at that time was defined as gradualism. The two were virtually equated; to see evolution meant finding gradualistic sequences, but every paleontologist knew that they had effectively never been found, and that was a frustration.

      http://www.powells.com/authors/gould.html

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    • joe1234
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 4:14pm

      oh and troll…nothing ever disproves evolution…because its faith…just like gloBULL warming….

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    • Pujols
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 4:37pm

      Guru ‘The Geek’ Deepak is a Moron. To believe what He does you have to be very high or very stupid.

      I think The Geek might be both high and stupid..

      I know you can’t change how you look, but you can make yourself look dummer than you already do.

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    • Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 5:06pm

      TOMFERRARI has a high school diploma, at most. Anyone who has attended college has heard of peer-reviewed journals and articles and knows what the term “peer-reviewed” means.

      You can’t expect a guy like this to understand complex scientific theories.

      By the way, a scientific theory isn’t the same as a normal theory. It is held to a much higher standard than, say, a Blazer’s theory that Obama wants to take his guns.

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    • Trollroll
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 5:30pm

      @Joe1234
      That theory was to explain evolution still. But considered static states rather than gradual. It still uses the same concept, but attempts to explain the leaps they find in the evolutionary processes. Gould hates it when creationalists cite his work. :D

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    • JRook
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 5:31pm

      @TomFerrari Faith – belief that is not based on proof. Therefor you don’t KNOW. Faith does not trump science no matter how committed you are to it. It is the limitations placed on the higher energy in the universe (call it God if you will) that those with a faith that is driven by their lack of understanding or ability to comprehend which is the most dangerous. No chance that the big bang might have been orchestrated by the higher energy or power in the universe? The only faith of people who speak like this have is faith in their what the can understand or articulate of their own beliefs.

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    • stogieguy7
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 5:37pm

      Who is 2pack Showtrial and why should I give a damn what he thinks?

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    • Woody WoodBecker
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 6:10pm

      Deepak is (Insert “Halperin” comment here.)

      Is there anyone Oprah propped up that is actually worth listening to? All liars, frauds, idiots and one president.

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 6:12pm

      Here is a great example of the limited understanding of ‘time’.

      ‘Time’ was unknown to early man. It was virtually created by the Mayan culture. Our present understanding of time is based in that context. “God” or if you prefer; Natures God, does not operate on our time lines.

      Mankind has adapted to his immediate surroundings and identified a way to relate to them. And that adaptation relates wholly and entirely on the rotation of the Earth as it passes in front of the Sun.

      Literally billions of other celestial objects do exactly the same thing and have vastly different “time” relationships based on that definition.

      How some moron can walk out and make such a statement and have it accepted as creational “truth” is incomprehensible.

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 6:20pm

      well i meant 6 in one… LOL

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 6:23pm

      the characters lie… well

      what i said last was, God created a programming language we call NATURE.

      … that is all there is too it, we have objects, methods, properties and events we can utilize. God doesn’t not nit pick, God gave us FREE WILL. that means, he has not choice wether ‘bad things’ happen to you. YOU bring that on YOURSELF, with FREE WILL.

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 6:31pm

      I also love how scientists stop trying to figure out why things are moving further away, when they came up with a big bang…. that is pure lazy. you just stop and call it fact? an explosion is not why things are moving away, explosions happen constantly in space and it doesn’t do what you are saying…. things are moving away because of outlets spewing matter in certain places. these “reverse black holes” are like a hose in a pool.. everything moves away from the water coming out of the hose. THAT is another theory…. the “large hose theory”, now stick that in your mouths. ;)

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    • ireport uderide
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 7:43pm

      I have always said there was no time before creation. duh.
      Where’s my Nobel Prize and PBS fund raising telethon.

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    • Thomas
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 8:26pm

      Neither the “Big Bang Theory” nor Evolution does not disprove the bible or God but only someones theological interpretation. On the idea of whether there is a God or not, good science yet remains neutral. Since God is tracing genes in the bible, doesn’t that mean that God new about evolution before science? Does Genesis 30:39 where Jacob is dealing with the flocks of sheep reveals that God had taught him something about genes and how they are passed from generation to generation?

      The things spoken about in Genesis 1 that God did in an instant mentally/Spiritually is still unraveling in the progress of time and Genesis 2:1-3 from the point of view of the physical has not yet happened. Now Adam was the start of a new segment of time called the Adamic age (of which the bible deals with) within a much older segment of time that could be millions or billions of years old. Adam was something new introduced to this world. Time is actually insignificant to the God. Genesis 6 speaks about Adam’s offspring (called the Sons of God) being mixed with the humanoid evolved creatures, that were here before Adam, through their daughters. Noah was mixture and so are we. Adam’s offspring introduced language and objectivity to the purely subjective and emotional world of the animal. Adam is the missing link that science has yet to find because of his origin as an angelic genes that were placed in a physical body his bones dissolved after death and so did his descendants that were giant.

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    • mycomet123
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 8:53pm

      I don’t believe in the big bang theory.You state that there was no time before creation?–I ask you creation of what? If your stating that there was no time before creation of the physical realm (i.e.-the universe or the universes–only GOD really knows for sure) –than I agree with you. The physical realm IS TIME. Before time there IS ETERNITY. Eternity deals with the spiritual realm & there definitely WAS creation in eternity before the beginning of time. WHY DON’T YOU TRY THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BLACK HOLE YOUR MIND IS TRAPPED IN-TURN OFF CNN & MSNBC & MAYBE YOU”ll FIND GOD.

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 9:09pm

      Well now there you have it. If DEEPak chOPRAH said it, well there just ain’t no more to say!

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    • EyeofthePatriot
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 11:15pm

      @ENCINOM

      LOL. You’re about as funny as the idea that this math/science/reason/ and logic were all formed from pure chaos. Order from Chaos eh? Hahahahahahaahahahahahahahaha…

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    • Libertyluvnmomma
      Posted on July 1, 2011 at 9:08am

      He [chopra] knows about creation….because he was there.

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on July 1, 2011 at 1:19pm

      As a Theologian he is entitled to his musings on such things. But FYI there are theories that offer a peek at the MultiVerse before the Big Bang.

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    • its_time_to_arrest_our_government
      Posted on July 1, 2011 at 2:35pm

      this guy need to have a big bang happen under his car when he starts it……friggin loser!

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    • LASTSTRAWONCAMEL
      Posted on July 1, 2011 at 3:22pm

      I wish I were as smart as Depak ………… He knows everything.

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    • Big Book Harry
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:52am

      Of course there was no time before creation, Duh Genesis 1 and John 1 both say “In The BEGINING”
      not the end. Temporal minds can only perceive time, God exists outside of time.

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