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Gwyneth Paltrow Plans to Raise Children in Jewish Environment After Renouncing ‘Organized Religion’

It seems Gwyneth Paltrow has had a change of heart when it comes to religion. Last year, the Oscar-winning actress had some disparaging things to say about faith and its role in world affairs. However, after a televised experience earlier this year in which she was able to review in-depth analysis of her connection to Judaism, Paltrow has allegedly changing course and is pledging to raise her children in a Jewish environment. This revelation comes despite her husband and his band Coldplay’s support for Palestine in the past.

After appearing on NBC’s ancestry program “Who Do You Think You Are?,” Mail Online is reporting that Paltrow, who was raised by a Christian mother and a Jewish father, is reconnecting with her family’s faith. Below, watch her journey unfold:

While some outlets are reporting that the actress first learned about her family’s “long line of influential East European rabbis” while filming the show, a 2006 profile written by The Guardian proves that she has been more than aware of her family’s past history for some time now:

Paltrow is generally perceived as the face of New York Wasp culture, but her father descended from a Russian, rabbinical dynasty. “Like, 17 generations of rabbis – you see, I really am a Jewish princess!”

Regardless of when she was informed about her Jewish background, Paltrow is now reversing course and saying that she wants to raise her daughter Apple, seven, and son Moses, five, in a Jewish environment. She allegedly made these comments to guests of a London event that was hosted by Community Security Trust, a charity that represents the Jewish interests.

If true, her intended action to raise her children with religious influence differs greatly from past statements she has made. In March 2010, Woman’s Day asked Paltrow if her children are getting a religious upbringing and also pondered what effect being half-Jewish has on the way in which she raises them. Here was her response:

I don’t believe in religion. I believe in spirituality. Religion is the cause of all the problems in the world. I don’t believe in organised religion at all. It’s what separates people. One religion just represents fragments, it causes war. More people have died because of religious conflict than any other reason.

Interestingly, Mail Online reports that Paltrow wouldn’t necessarily be considered a true Jew. According to a genealogy expert, religion passes through the matriarchal line, thus Paltrow, whose mother is a Christian, would not be considered Jewish based on religious law:

“Miss Paltrow may just want to follow traditions that she did as a child, like observing the Sabbath, keeping a kosher home and celebrating holidays,’ the expert said.

On another note, Paltrow’s husband Chris Martin of the band “Coldplay” has Christian roots. Aside from the complications this could cause (though there is no direct evidence that a conflict would arise should Paltrow carry through with her plans), Martin was recently involved in supporting a pro-Palestinian pop song. As The Blaze’s Jonathon Seidl reported back in June:

A group of international pop singers has just collaborated on an anti-Israel, pro-Palestine song that accuses Israel of “crimes against humanity” and “illegal occupation,“ and demands ”freedom for Palestine.” And the song is being publicly supported by the likes of British powerhouse group Coldplay.

While no one is entirely sure how deeply Paltrow will delve into her Jewish heritage, this is certainly another interesting element worth noting. It will be intriguing to see if, indeed, the actress follows through on her faith-filled plans.

Comments (347)

  • JRook
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:13am

    Well she got this part right…Religion is the cause of all the problems in the world. I don’t believe in organized religion at all. It’s what separates people. One religion just represents fragments, it causes war. More people have died because of religious conflict than any other reason.

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    • matt1776
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:20am

      Communism/marxism has killed more people then even the most devout Muslim fanatic could ever DREAM of.

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    • agameofthrones
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:21am

      Isn’t Judaism an organized religion? What does she mean by “Jewish environment”? Does that mean in a house with menorahs and other Jewish symbols that will have no meaning to the children because they learn nothing about them? Does that mean they will be like Christmas Catholics who go to church once a year because it’s “traditional”? How pathetic.

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    • Emrys
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:24am

      Sigh, don’t believe your own spin. The Soviet Union had little religion, and they had many problems, so don’t use words like “every.”

      Also, she is wrong. Many wars have been fought with the EXCUSE of religious pretext, but they were just land-grabs and conquerings for power and greed (see the Crusades, Alexander the Great, Roman Conquests, The Huns, The Mongols, The Vikings, World War I, Korea, Vietnam, World War II, etc.) Ghandi, Mother Theresa, Martin Luther King, Jr….I believe those were religious people. Don’t paint in broad brushes, or you lost all credibility. There may have been religious elements to each of the wars in history, but that doesn’t mean that it was the overwhelming cause. The Civil War in America wasn’t a religious war, though religious people fought it on both sides.

      I‘m not saying that people haven’t done wrong in the name of religion, they certainly have. But maniacs are alive and well in every age. Most European Christians stayed home during the Crusades.

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    • gordon808
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:26am

      You know, I am tired of the lie that religion is the cause of more deaths. Prove it!! I think Pol Pot, Nazi Germany, American Civil War, War of 1812, Vietnam, Korea just to name a few make for a valid case that religion has nothing on “normal wars” I do not know the deaths caused by the Muslims killing Christians in present day middle east and atheists killing them in china but I still think you guys who are “not religous” got us beat by a mile…

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    • last frontier
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:33am

      Jrook stop blaming religion there is and always will be somebody that has something, that somebody who is bigger wants, and many times they tie religion into it. So bullies are probably just as responsible for wars as religion. If Israel was not on sandy beaches and they lived in mud huts, most of the middle east would not care, they would try bullying them but not exterminate them that is class warfare between the haves and have nots. Hitler turned the German citizens against the jews over class envy not religion.

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    • escape_from_socialism
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:34am

      If you mean religion, like believe in social justice(communism), superior race(nazi), monarchy
      then she is right, but that governments, and that kills more people then anything,
      not religion it self.

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    • cliffattheblaze
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:34am

      That’s very interesting. It’s wrong, but interesting. Who or what are you specifically talking about? Most of those “religious” wars are really about kings killing other kingdom’s people and had nothing to do with “religion”. Show me a place where 50 or 80 million people were killed in the name of any religion. You can’t, because they weren’t. This is just a stupid talking point that gets spread from person to person without them ever checking it out.

      Now if you classify atheism as a religion, then you may have something there. More people have been killed by atheistic governments than all others combined. Yeah, that must be what you’re talking about, otherwise you don‘t know what you’re talking about.

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:37am

      She is a beauty – in almost every way.

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    • Iman Barak Hussein
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:42am

      limousine liberal gold spoon spoiled brat who tries to be hip when trash talking the United States, religion, white people, GOP.

      Hey Gweenie…go to hell.

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    • repwin2012
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:46am

      JROOK, both you and Paltrow are wrong. not even close. . It is popular to spout the uniformed mantra “religion has caused more deaths than anything else”. However, Stalin, Hitler, Mao & Pol Pot of have done more as individuals in the way of population reduction than any religion. All were atheists.
      Corrrect statement: “More people have died because of godless atheism than any other reason”. It is indiscriminate in its killings. By the way, atheism seems to be gaining traction here in America. I haven’t really seen too much religious fighting here in this Christian nation. My life’s been pretty peaceful from that standpoint, as most, if not all others would attest.
      The only real aggression we see these days in the realm of religion is that of atheists pushing to stop prayer at public events, removal of the 10 commandments from buildings, shutting down religious high school valedictorians, etc., silly stuff like that. What’s the point, blind hatred? Oh, I know; “separation of church and state”, another uniformed mantra.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:48am

      @JRook

      You may wish to take a look at atheist communist regimes a bit closer before going off the handle on religion. Stalin had more people killed on purely non-religious grounds than all of the faiths of the world combined.

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    • Beckster2
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:50am

      JROOK: So was WWI a religious war and WWII part two of a religous war? Was Josef Stalin a religious leader? Was Mao’s Cultural Revolution a religious war? Is North Korea a religious stronghold? Did Fidel Castro establish a religion in Cuba? Only if Marxism is considered a religion and all its violent varities are considered sects of Marxism can you make that statement with a straight face.

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    • bullcrapbuster
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:58am

      The greatest man man made killers of humanity ever, the civil war,first and second world wars,veitnam,korean wars. None were “religious” wars. Communists killed tens of millions of their own people for wanting freedom. Think before you speak man,

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    • middleclassprophet
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:09pm

      -matt1776-

      That’s not even remotely true.

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    • Pujols
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:20pm

      If She doesn’t want to raise Her Children in ‘Organized Religion’ why would She raise them in a Jewish environment after She renouncing all Religion. This lady really is a Nut Case. If you‘ve ever heard Her talk She’s a typical Libterd. Same as Jennifer Assinnine and Katherine Heigl.

      Heigl once gave a Mexican fisherman $200 to let a fish go. He’s a fisherman. This Hollywood people are in a Glass ball. NOT NORMAL!

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    • @ Coyote2
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:24pm

      Organized religion, especially judisim, is no different then organized crime!

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    • American_Bearcat
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:34pm

      Mao, Stalin, and all of the other atheist leaders also hunted people down who were of a relgion. While they might not have been religious themselves they have killed people because of A religion technically making your statements about the atheist leaders false

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    • Teleologicus
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:35pm

      The canard that religion is the greatest cause of human violence only shows how little those who make such ridiculous and grotesquely false allegations know about history. Where do children get ideas like this? Is this being taught(i.e. preached) in schools? Who is responsible for establishing and perpetuating this absurdly erroneous meme?

      One might have supposed that the most superficial acquaintance with the history of war and conflict in the 20th century would by itself be sufficient to falsify the preposterous assertion that organized religion is the greatest source of human conflict. Then there is the U.S. Civil War, the War of 1812, the Revolutionary War, King Phillip’s War, the French and Indian War, among many others. The so-called wars of religion in Europe were about much more than religion, as anyone familiar with the topic knows quite well. And the number of people killed pales in comparison with the great atheistic wars of the 20th century. It is quite true that Islam from its very beginning has been a violent, warlike, imperialistic religion at its very core and in its fundamental teachings. No other major religion is remotely like Islam in this respect. Those who want to blame religion for war may justly blame Islam and its teachings – but of course these politically correct atheists usually spring to the defense of Islam because they have been led to believe this is the correct way to think.

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    • GRAMPA-D-NH
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:36pm

      Sanctimonious liberals repeatedly slam “organized religion” to excuse themselves from seeking the truth and God forbid, actually humbling themselves to a superior being. Ironically, liberals who normally love all that is “organized” ignore the universal disastors resulting from organized marxism-socialism-liberalism. My Christian faith teaches me I am first and foremost an individual before God and will be held accountable as such. My concern about Islamic jihadists has nothing to do with it being organized, but what the individuals believe from their Quaran and spiritual leader in terms of converting all people or killing them.

      Sounds to me there is an uncomfortable tension growing in the Paltrow household with her husband stoking the Palestinian cause for undermining Israel.

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    • Markster 72
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:36pm

      Where do you get this dribble? People kill – not religion. That’s like saying God causes disease. SIN is the root of all evil. Not religion.

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    • bigfatslob
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:39pm

      Trolls should be aware that communism has killed more people in the has 100 years than all religions of all time !

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    • trickyric
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:40pm

      I am so utterly sick and tired of ignorant fools who try to sound intellectual while bashing religion. Just take a second to look at the history of the world, people look for ways to separate themselves to gain power. Blacks were slaves because they were black the Nazi’s wanted an white race the Jews were just a convenient scapegoat. Japanese were persecuted in the 1800′s. Hispanics were persecuted by the Europeans that formed American and the Indians were slaughtered by the whites.
      if there isn’t a way to separate and conquer those without morality will find a way to do it.
      Lastly, religion accounts for more than 70% of all charity in the world and it was the evangelical Christians who spoke loudest against Hitler! So get your head out of your a$$ and stop looking to vilify anyone other than the real villains.

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    • djsdone
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:41pm

      Is abortion a religion…? Worldwide deaths of the unborn currently estimated at 42 million.

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    • OUTRIDER WRITER
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:41pm

      @Jrook
      I guess that’s why all “those” people who avoid organized religious affairs and/or have such a distain for matters of faith get along so well and are united in peace? I’d like to know the name of the nonreligious group you belong to that lives in such harmony. My sincere best guess is that IF there were such a group–and you joined it–it would no longer be peaceful.

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    • Weiners Wiener
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:45pm

      Keep kidding yourself with that tired, old myth. No religious movement has killed as many as Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, etc. That‘s a phony liberal talking point you’re spewing about the place, and you’ve obviously fallen for it — despite every historian’s work to prove how false it is.

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    • SistaTriscuit
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:46pm

      MATT1776 – Islam could certainly give Communism/Marxism a run for their money in terms of deaths. While I’m fully aware of the amount of people that Communism/Marxism have killed, 270 Million dead in 1400 years at the hands of Islam sure ain’t peanuts.

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    • SlimnRanger
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:47pm

      The Bible is Gods Holy word,and it tells us how to live our lives,how to treat others,and always putting God first,thats all God asks us to do is keep his commandments,and live a just honest life,makes no difference what church you attend as long as they preach and teach Jesus Christ,and him shedding his blood on the cross for our sins,accepting Christ as our Lord and Saviour,follow his guidelines and we will not want to murder,steal,or any other sin like that,helping those in need and lots of prayer

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    • FSM_47
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:48pm

      So what religion did Stalin, Hitler, and Pol Pot represent? Men not following religious teaching and principles (except for Islam) are what cause problems.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:54pm

      Let’s not forget Genghis Khan, a greater terror to the world than Hitler. He erased entire cities from the map and conquered more territory than Alexander the Great or Napoleon, and he did it in the name of conquest itself. No religion motivated him.

      How about the Vikings, the terror of Europe in the 9th and 8th centuries? They’re the ones who really gave the Dark Ages its name. They had a norse religion but no one ascribes their rampages through Europe to that. They were just looking for things to steal and land to conquer. Boys will be boys and Vikings will be bloodthirsty pillagers.

      JROOK seems rather ignorant of whole swaths of history that don’t fit his anti-religion template.

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    • JohnGalt
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:59pm

      World War I and II had the most casualties than any other war, and it they were not due to religion.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:59pm

      It’s strange. According to Judaism, she’s not Jewish technically. Her mother would have to be Jewish for that to be the case since it’s a matrilineal belief system. I wonder why she opted for Judaism over Christianity? Not that it matters, it’s just a curiosity to me. Ultimately what she chooses to do, or not do in her life is not my concern.

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    • SouthSideLib
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 1:00pm

      MATT- Are you forgetting about the crusades, the inquisition, religious war in Ireland, Pakistan, the Moorish conquests, religious terrorism/wars. Religion has caused countless deaths.

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    • Truthbeliever2
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 1:09pm

      Nice job JROOK you now carry the lable of MORON.

      When are people going to see it’s the people who belong to said religion that make it look bad, which has nothing to do with Religion itself.

      There are bad people in the world period

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    • hmanwarren1
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 1:10pm

      Idiot.

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    • chazman
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 1:12pm

      Hey Gwyneth … yer weird. Cute, but weird. And flakey.

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    • Toucan
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 1:18pm

      Religion does not kill anymore than a gun kills…. It is the people behind a religion or gun that kills… Once one educates themselves on the true honorable purposes, functions, and operations of religion (like a gun), then one will witness the benefits… After all, drowning has claimed many lives, but “learning” to swim and about water safety sure saves a lot of lives. Therefore, once again it returns to educating ourselves…

      The problem here isn’t the religions per say, it is that humans are imperfect beings with massive egos that tend to alter anything we touch….. Boy how we have altered what took place with Enoch, Buddha, Jesus, Muhammad… to suit “our” fancies…

      How many has had an accurate map and still got lost??? To blame the map or the religion is unreasonable don’t you think?????

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 1:24pm

      “SOUTHSIDELIB
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 1:00pm
      MATT- Are you forgetting about the crusades, the inquisition, religious war in Ireland, Pakistan, the Moorish conquests, religious terrorism/wars. Religion has caused countless deaths.”

      Crusades are a given. I can guarantee you that the battle of Gettysburg took out more people than the totality of the Crusades combined. Ireland is fighting a secular war of nationalism and seperatism (was fighting). Pakistan, perhaps, how many casualties perchance? The Moors, granted, how many casualties? The inquisition wasn’t a war, further, very few people died.

      The reason you say countless, I think, is because you don’t have a count that can compare to how many have been killed by outright murderous anti-religious or unreligious regimes and leaders. Face it, you simply cannot hold up the totality of religion combined, death wise, and compare it to Stalin taking out tens of millions of his own in a few years, or Hitler, or the ChiComs. :)

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 1:42pm

      “Religion has caused countless deaths.”

      @Southsidelib, actually I think it’s capable of being counted to within reasonable accuracy. Let’s take the Crusades. A lot of bloodshed there, but not much more than happened in your average premodern campaign of conquest. Over a two hundred year period it racked up around 2 million deaths. The Inquisition? Sorry. It has a very low body count, the low thousands. It is notorious because it killed that many under the direct authority of the church and run by Dominican Friars. The crusades was authorized by the church but run by the kings and barons who also profited by them. I would say 10,000 tops can be chalked up to the crusades. The Moorish conquests? Heck, why not all the Muslim conquests? Less bloody than the crusades, most people surrendered quickly. I would say less than a million. Irish “troubles”? Rounding errors, compared to everything else.

      Most of these things cover periods of more than a century. The body count of the totalitarian, and atheist, regimes of the 20th century that span a mere 50 years from the mid 20s to the mid 70s rack up a staggering 100 million. 2 million a year. You won’t find any religious war or religious period that comes close to that body count.

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    • dcshadows
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 1:44pm

      I don’t believe in religion because it has killed people… Whah Whah Whah…We should not take medicine because the side effects are far worse than the cure. Think of that… We should stop using grocery carts at grocery stores because of the amount of diseases and germs that may sicken or even. (take a breath) kill us.

      How about this? There is only 1 absolute truth in everything. It is up to the individual to find it. If what you seek has 1 microbe of falsehood to it then it is entirely false. Only cowards are neutral or shy away from this duty. Religion doesn’t kill. Stupid people that lack the absolute truth kill. You really frustrate me!

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    • AlmostaCowboy
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 1:50pm

      Does someone have to dress and feed you? I don’t see how anyone as dumb, oh excuse me, “factually challenged”, could manage that on his own.

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 2:58pm

      @Islesfordian Most of the responses here including yours are convenient at best and many clearly explanatory on how many choose to defend a fantasized peacefulness within organized religion. Even trickyric was able to stumble on the insight that people choose many reasons to separate themselves, feel superior and gain power. If people want to believe that religious views is not one of the factors that is used and one that thus leads to conflicts then they exist in a rather superficial isolated world. Merely the inability for a majority of the people here to separate being a spiritual person from belonging to an organized religion displays your referenced ignorance relative to the discussion itself.

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    • blowback
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 3:01pm

      Bolshevism, Nazism, Maoism, Pol Pot-ism, Kim Jong-il-ism were all non-religious killers of the 20th century. Show me the religious killings of the 20th century that compare to these vehicles of death and destruction.

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 3:01pm

      Consider the following and then prepare you own case. Save your rants for the ignorant. Link follows
      I heard a while back that more people had died in the name of Jesus than in the name of Hitler. I’d always wondered if it was true, it seemed perfectly plausible given the persistence and viciousness of the Vatican during the Crusades. Unfortunately, I had found it difficult to find a number of deaths from the Crusades. But, I found in Google Answers, this webpage that chronicles numerous human conflicts and includes a category for religious conflicts. The numbers are hazy, of course, when we’re speaking about conflicts hundreds or thousands of years ago when death tallies were not a priority or of mild interest like they are today.

      In short, 809 million people have died in religious wars. That’s nearly a billion people.

      Oftentimes, a retort is that secular ideals and Godless Communism have killed many more. It is true that Stalin, among others, slaughtered his own people by the millions during the industrialization of Soviet Russia. By comparison, 209 million have died in the name of Communism. Some 62 million died during World War II, civilian and military, on all sides. Conclusively, more people have died in the name of religion than in the name of Communism or Hitler, or the two combined times two.
      http://bookrate.wordpress.com/2006/07/22/deaths-over-history-religious-vs-nonreligous/

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    • Dustoff
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 3:01pm

      Ever heard of Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Po-pot.

      Now what were you saying.

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    • niki
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 3:06pm

      Religion isn’t the reason for wars. Put blame where it should go. Satan, sorry to mention that pesky guy, inspires people to do these things. The Crusades, along with everything else involving murder doesn’t come from God. He doesn’t inspire people to do that.

      Characteristics of Christ: Peace, Love, patience, temperance, charity, etc.

      Characteristics of Satan: Hatred, Wanting to control, Jealousy, Lust, Greed, Being offended, Entitlement, Selfishness, etc.

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    • SCHEXbp
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 3:08pm

      “I don’t believe in religion. I believe in spirituality. Religion is the cause of all the problems in the world. I don’t believe in organised religion at all. It’s what separates people. One religion just represents fragments, it causes war. More people have died because of religious conflict than any other reason.”

      Besides the nonsense already addressed (how about the number killed by The Roman Empire, lasting 1000 years in The West & 2000 years in The East?), remember her conclusion bypasses the actual population available to be killed. So many people died in WWI & WWII, it pales in comparison to Napoleon, Alexander the Great & just about everybody in between – like the USSR lost 20 million) in WWII. Athiests Mao killed 70-90 million, Stalin 40-50, Hitler 30; these are guestimates.

      I object to the “Spirituality” foolishness. Oprah is a culprit in this arena too. 100 years ago, in point of fact “spiritualists” believed in seances, ghosts, elves & fairies & were BIG dupes (see a pattern?).

      Spirituality without religious belief is a fashion/fad. I mean WHAT are you spiritual about? Oh, you are “sensitive?” To what? It’s crapola!

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    • SCHEXbp
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 3:13pm

      ALSO, does religion get a credit for all the person saved from starvation, etc., ALL AROUND THE WORLD by feeding & clothing, & sheltering so many in Africa, Asia, & the Americas?
      Or is that not “spiritual” enough for the idiot Paltrow?

      Jews should feel nsulted. Poor Apple, well at least Moses might fit in.

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 3:31pm

      @niki Ok thanks for clearing that up. Which Satan from which religion are we referencing here?

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    • Whatreagansaid
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 3:34pm

      I disagree the United States is a country of many religions it was one of the many reasons of why people come to America. If you look at the Muslim countries no other religions are allowed and they cut off hands and feet, stone their own people, hang homosexuals. No, I would say country filled with multiple religions would be the most peaceful.

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 3:39pm

      @Islesfordian “Most of these things cover periods of more than a century. The body count of the totalitarian, and atheist, regimes of the 20th century that span a mere 50 years from the mid 20s to the mid 70s rack up a staggering 100 million. 2 million a year. You won’t find any religious war or religious period that comes close to that body count.” REALLY Notwithstanding the possibility that atheist or anyother regimes may have in fact been motivated by differences which might have included religion, please see my reference text and tally this up again.

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    • Dismayed Veteran
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 4:00pm

      Shown below are the American battle wounded and dead in all major wars excluding the current War on Terror.

      None of these are religious. I personally believe the War on Terror is a religious war.

      War Casualties KIA
      Revolutionary War 10,623 4,435
      War of 1812 6,765 2,260
      Mexican-American War 17,435 1,733
      Civil War 970,227 184,594
      Spanish-American War 4,108 385
      World War I 320,710 53,513
      World War II 1,078,162 292,131
      Korean War 136,935 33,651
      Vietnam War 211,471 58,159

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    • JohnGalt
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 4:14pm

      Jrook, You base all of religion over thousands of years. You base communism and fascism just over 50 – 100 years. Let’s put it this way, how many people died in the past 50 -100 years due to religion and how many died due to communism and fascism?

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 4:15pm

      JROOK, I saw that limk. It offers no comprehensible break down or formula by which it arrived at the implausible figure of 800 million. No historian worth his salt would buy that figure. Those numbers are fantasies. The huge death toll of the modern tptalitarian state are only possinble because of the modern totalitarian state. It requires strong central control to organize murder on that level.

      As for the deaths under communism being due to other factors than atheism. Enlighten me. What religious fcators do you propose? Merely hypothesizing that there might be some is an argument that makes the Casey Anthony verdict look like Oliver Wendal Holmes delivered it. There is a thing called EVIDENCE. You might have heard of it. All the evidence of those regimes fits with the understanding that they were hostile toward religion and promoted atheism. So to chalk up the deaths under their reighn to anything other than non-religious forces is simply irrational. But it would be nice if you even bothered to make the argument, no matter how irrational it is.

      “people choose many reasons to separate themselves, feel superior and gain power. If people want to believe that religious views is not one of the factors that is used ”

      Strawman. No one argued that point. You made a simply statement, twice here today, about the number of deaths due to religiuon and were challenged on it with specifics. You answer back with a false accusation that we don’t acknowledge religiuous conflict.

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 4:31pm

      Got that all wrong….unless you consider communism/socialism to be a religion.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 4:34pm

      Actually she is incorrect, More people have been killed because of religious conflict than any other reason, but age and illness are still the topcauses of death in general.

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    • hauschild
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 4:34pm

      Chick’s nasty looking, for sure. She’s another example of a dame a lot of guys go ga-ga after, but only because she’s famous. She’s homely as a hedge fence, and scrawny as hell.

      Plus, she’s now a hypocrite.

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    • Pujols
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 4:42pm

      @ Coyote2 = Anti-simte or just a fool. BOTH?

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 4:42pm

      I watched the video in its’ entirety! It was wonderful…If she has had a “change of heart”…this is a really good thing…I would imagine that she also realizes that she would not have been born had it not been for her Great, Great Great Grandmother immigrating to AMERICA! I wonder if she would now be supportive of Glenn’s “Restoring Courage” movement in Israel? You would think so…

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 5:03pm

      @Islesfordian No doubt casualties are counted better now then way back when. However, I would submit there was a religious aspect to the French being in Vietnam and us following them. There are many who believed JFK went into Vietnam because of Catholicism. But rather than dispute all motives involved I would suggest that the factor of almost 4. That leaves a lot of error in the estimates to still be a larger number. Your limiting the time frame to the past 100 years is no less of an accurate approach. Would you take the same position regarding information presented in the Old Testament or for that matter the New Testament. With regard to motive you are correct that both positions require evidence so the assertion that religion was not a factor is no less a fantasy. To argue that religion has not or is not a factor in people separating themselves or in the events that lead to war is to argue in the extreme. Which all educated and experienced individuals knows is never a rational position to argue from. Do you not agree with the conflicts they site or just with the death toll??

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    • disque-0-duc
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 5:15pm

      Really?! Ask the approximate 72,000,000 Chinese peasants who suffered and died at the hands of Mao Tse Tung and his cruel Marxist social experiments.

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    • Patriot Z
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 5:26pm

      ehhhh yes n no. look im athiest. but humans are killers. its a simple fact of nature. the quest for power in any form will lead to it. If it was not religion it would be something else. the funniest thing about peeps lile GP is that they want to pretend they are so above it all and they are not. they fall under natures control just as anybody

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    • fliteking
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 5:31pm

      matt1776 — How true my friend. Go easy, you will confuse the progressives.

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    • thecid100
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 5:36pm

      Thank you, Matt. Communists have killed millions more than any religion, and this woman only proves what an ignorant person she is. Doesn‘t mean she’ll learn a lesson and shut her yap, though, I’m sure.

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    • Emrys
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 5:41pm

      Hey jRook, I looked up the site you linked. Shoddy work on their part, I checked their sources. Here is one they sourced: http://necrometrics.com/pre1700a.htm
      It lists the top few dozen highest death causing events in history. Here are the top ones:

      Rank Death Toll Cause Centuries
      1 63 million Second World War 20C
      2 40 million Mao Zedong (mostly famine) 20C
      3 40 million Genghis Khan 13C
      4 27 million British India (mostly famine) 19C
      5 25 million Fall of the Ming Dynasty 17C
      6 20 million Taiping Rebellion 19C
      7 20 million Joseph Stalin 20C
      8 19 million Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C
      9 17 million Timur Lenk 14C-15C
      10 16 million Atlantic Slave Trade 15C-19C
      11 15 million First World War 20C
      12 15 million Conquest of the Americas

      These were not religious wars, no caused by religion. Just because someone ‘catagorized’ certain events as ‘religious,‘ doesn’t make it so.

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    • madarain
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 5:46pm

      JRook. Respectfully, your facts cannot be right. If they could, I’ts possible that I might be with you on this, but they can’t be right, so I am not. With the 20th century being the deadliest century on record, and the massive majority of those deaths caused by a small handful of non-religious tyrannts, namely Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot and Mao. NOthign remotely religious about these guys, but they were murdrous beyond belief…Stop arguing. You cant win. You are simply incorrect.

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    • hi-polymer
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 5:55pm

      Yes, the libs seem to forget that funny little detail about Communist. hmmmmmm.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 6:59pm

      “I would submit there was a religious aspect to the French being in Vietnam and us following them.”

      JROOK, that you will speculate on multiple causes and include secondary and tertiary causation completely vitiates your point about religion being “the cause of all the problems in the world” and that “More people have died because of religious conflict than any other reason.”

      If you won’t isolate singular primary causes there is no point in singling out religion for special blame as you do. If religion can be involved in almost every cause so can other factors. What makes religion and not economics more to blame? Why not claim genetics? Causation can clearly be traced back to the emergence of man as a species. Heck, we can trace it all the way to the Big Bang. Theologically and philosophically this is done tracing causation back to the Prime Mover. It’s the same move, and it is equally pointless in such arguments.

      Religion can only be judged as bad if it, and it only, is the dominant cause of the majority of the worlds evils. This you have failed to prove.

      And really, to put any blame for Vietnam on JFK’s catholicism? What kind of a catholic did you think he was? That really is too funny.

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 7:21pm

      @madarain First not my statement or my analysis. But yes I think they speak volumes here. I might agree with your century point if that was the stated time frame. The original statement does not identify a single century and I was not assuming a single century. So while the 20th. century was the deadliest, the statement and therefor discussion covers all of human existence.

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    • Libertyluvnmomma
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 7:39pm

      Oops, being unequally yoked wasn’t a bad idea at the time.

      Is that roosting chickens I hear in the background?

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    • ILUVJESUS
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 7:41pm

      Religion as well as patriotism is used by the powers that be throughout history to convince the masses to fight war! Someone tell this stupid chick that!

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 9:55pm

      Hollywood and porn = Jews

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 10:04pm

      Known for: Acting, being a vegetarian, naming her child after a fruit.

      Twiggy straight-haired blonde Gwyneth Paltrow doesn’t look like the curvy, borscht-fed shtetl goddesses of our Yiddishe dreams. In fact, she looks like the enchantingly exotic shiksa WASPs on whom the New York contingent of our scattered people tend to neurotically fixate. But wouldn’t you know it, Gwyneth is descended on her director father Bruce Paltrow’s side from a prominent clan of Eastern European Jewish rabbis, who bore the significantly schmaltzier surname Paltrowitch in the Old Country. And although her Quaker mother keeps Paltrow from full club membership, she has expressed much pride in her Jewish roots, and claims to fast on Yom Kippur as a tribute to her uber-holy ancestors, and (we think) as atonement for marrying irritating neo-Bono Chris Martin.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 10:13pm

      another atheistic jew just like Ron Jeremy

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    • BootsAreWalkin
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:57pm

      Matt is right. Mao, a Socialist, killed millions alone through is various purges directly through torture and murder by he and his men; the totals I have seen estimates he killed as many as 70 million from all causes, including famine, disease, etc. And Mao had no religion of his own, he was ANTI-religion.

      Stalin, a Socialist, killed millions too, some estimates at more than 10 million. Also ANTI-religous with no religion of his own.

      Hitler, a National Socialist: Killed between 6 and 10 million based on various estimates. Religious? No. ANTI-religious.

      Pol Pot, Castro, Che? Socialist killers all, all had no religion, or in the case of Castro, abandoned his religion. All were ANTI-religion.

      These are the most proficient large scale murderers in history, all strongly driven by ANTI-religious ideologies. These demons‘ gruesome score dwarfs by many orders of magnitude all of the people ever killed in the ’name’ of religion.

      Not only that. Note that of the major religions in the world today, only the radical acolytes of ONE – just ONE – of them propose and preach mass genocide – radical Islamists.

      So what is still the greatest threat to mankind today? Socialists and radical Islamists. Not the major religions. They preach peace and tolerance.

      Gwyneth (and others) would come off a lot smarter if they quit trying to revise or ignore history and simply study it.

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    • FormerLib
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:04am

      “More people have died because of religious conflict than any other reason.” Hogwash. Christian apologist Walter Martin demolished this old bromide decades ago. You could take all the crusades, pogroms, and religious wars in all of history history and giving the benefit of the doubt, arrive at a number of people roughly in the 6-10 million neighborhood. Stalin (atheist) alone killed 3 times that many in just 20 years. Add another 30-40 from Mao (atheist), 10 million from Hitler (spiritist), 3 million from Pol Pot (atheist), and millions of others, religion doesn’t even come close.

      http://www.newscholars.com/papers/Killing,%20Christianity,%20and%20Atheism.pdf

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    • CommonSenseis Missing
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 8:25am

      Why is this newsworthy? Why waste Blaze spece and resources on a non-story like this?

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    • james4usa
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 8:26am

      Hey Matt, Marxism, Bolshevism is straight out of the Talmud, see Real Zionist News.

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    • sbleve
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 9:10am

      Do not confuse burned toast with Cajun toast. Organized religion is as you say. Communism and Fascism is in most part a form of practical religious activity. A religion needs to believe in something better, bigger, than ones self. Revisit Lenin/Stalin and see the clarity of religion.

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    • JohnGalt
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 9:42am

      Communism/Fascism cannot exist if their is religion, neither can control people if those people believe in a God. They want people to depend on Government can’t be done if they depend on God.

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    • PDfromToledo
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 9:44am

      Being Christian doesn’t kill people…. crazed fanatics do. Gwenneth will have something else in mind next week… stay tuned.

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    • maureenr
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:28am

      Christianity is NOT a religion it is a faith.PERIOD!!

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    • Mgindi26
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:36am

      @ TOwer7
      what’s that horrible smell? Oh it‘s the stink of someone who loves Hitler and the Nazi’s. You know you hate Jews so much. You find them so vile. I thik it’s a good idea that you should boycott anything that Jews discovered or invented. Lets start with Medicine.Just don;t get sick but if you do just use soap and water and maybe a band-aid.
      The invention of local anesthesia, the discovery of Novocaine (better not go to the dentist or require any local surgery), The isolation and development of penicillin (don’t get sick), The development of streptomycin (the first antibiotic effective against tuberculosis), The isolation of cortisone,The chemical synthesis of cortisone(making it commercially available),The invention of acetylsalicylic acid (aspirin) (don’t get a headache) The discovery of neurotransmitters by Otto Loewi. Loewi shared the 1936 Nobel Prize with Sir Henry Dale+ for their independent work on acetylcholine. Sir Bernard Katz and Julius Axelrod shared the 1970 Nobel Prize with Ulf von Euler+ for advanced work on neurotransmitters. Their work led directly to the development of the class of anti-depressants that includes Prozac, Zolof, The discovery of endorphins and enkephalins, The development of Warfarin (Coumadin) anticoagulant therapy 9 don’t get a heart attack or stroke), The development of oral contraceptives (don’t have sex)The development of the Salk and Sabin polio vaccines,The development of the Hepatitis-B vaccine to be continued

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    • djsdone
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:11am

      I wasn’t aware that abortion was a religion…to date 42 million yet unborn slaughtered worldwide…

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    • Mgindi26
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:28am

      continued
      The invention of cancer chemotherapy, The co-development of 6-MP (6-mercaptopurine) by Gertrude Elion, which used in combination with methotrexate and other drugs, has led to cures for most forms of childhood leukemia. Elion was also the co-developer of azathioprine (Imuran), the immunosuppressant that made organ transplants possible between individuals other than identical twins, and of acyclovir (Zovirax) for the treatment of herpes viral infections, The discovery and development of cisplatin )that’s for testicular cancer) , The revolutionizing of radiation oncology , The invention of radioimmunoassay, The breaking of the genetic code, The discovery of RNA and major contributions to the elucidation of its structure and function ,The invention of the sonogram , The invention of the flexible endoscope , The co-invention of LASIK eye surgery , The invention of phacoemulsification cataract surgery , The invention of the cardiac defibrillator, external pacemaker, and cardiac monitor , The invention of the Heimlich Maneuver There’s much more but you get the point.
      THen of course there is the cell phone invented in Motorola Israel labs, Windows NT through windows 7 (israel) ANti virus software, the camera phone, google’s search algorithem, Instant messaging,
      Plus we never touched physics or the multitudes more. You see you hate Jews because they achieve and all you do is look up to a tyrant who killed himself in 1945 rather than fight. Hitler was a Coward and y

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    • flagkeeper
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:39pm

      Funny thing, “religion”. It is what ever your belief system is. People love to herald the atrocities of Christianity, which to me, were often evil men using religion as a pretext to underlying political agendas. However, when a State actually hijacks a religion (Rome) , you have the organization and force necessary to carry out the will of the leaders using “religion” as the justification. The former USSR and Iran are not all that different in this sense. Whenever any belief leads people to think that the ends justifies the means (actual communist and Jihadi doctrine), violence is inevitable . Radical Islam and Marxism/Communism are of particular note. Many “special interests”, and their movements seem to be heading in this direction, too.

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 1:37pm

      @Emrys @Islesfordian Wrong and Wrong. The site you referenced is not the site that lists religious conflicts as the one I provided does. Yes you have to do some work here and search for the estimated deaths in each of the identified religious conflicts. @Emrys The list you provide is your list not the religious conflict list. Gentlemen, when confronted with information that does not support your belief the answer is not dismiss it as being invalid. You also don’t get the choice to choose the low end of a range. The reasonable position would be to split the difference. Given the religious conflict total is 800 million on the high side, half is still significantly more than the approx 200 million you reference. And by the way are you telling me the source for the Catholic Church’s role in starting the Vietnam War is not a valid one. The author is far more informed on the Church than any of us. And the reverse statement is clearly in the affirmative on both counts if we are arguing that either organized religion or organized atheism (as def by @Islesfordian) caused the deaths, than we both would have to say such deaths would not have occurred if neither condition existed.

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    • Obeckian1984
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 6:44pm

      Long list of Jewish Child Molestor Rabbis gets no media coverage and Jewish homosexual pedophiles are undisturbed.

      Clergy Abuse
      Other Trusted Officals
      More evidence that these people who claim to be Jews are God’s enemies and not His chosen people.

      I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are NOT, but [are] (Idumeans) the synagogue of Satan.

      King of kings’ Bible – Revelation 2:9
      Know a tree by the fruit it bears.

      Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into The Fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

      http://www.iamthewitness.com/listeners/Jewish.child.molesters.that.are.never.on.the.NEWS-WHY.htm

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    • airhead0
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 8:28pm

      MATT1776 is correct. Some scholars say that during the “Crusades” approximately 5 million were killed over TWO CENTURIES. The time of the inquisition about 5 thousand were killed. These are always the popular choice of folks that need to find a reason to bash christianity. I counter this with Pol Pot, he killed almost 2 million in less then 4 years. Then there is Hitler and 12 million…. I know, thats an easy one. How bout Stalin? 23 million of his own countrymen. Then there is the Grandaddy of them all……drum roll please…….MAO ZE-DONG no one really knows how many but the estimates are between 50-80 MILLION Chinese and Tibetans. Religion played no part in the decision these men made, other then some of them killed because of the religious beliefs of the victims.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:13am

    “pledging to raise her children in a Jewish environment.” To her, that probably means no more than feeding them lox and bagels on occasion and presents on Hanukkah.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:14pm

      Save your valuable insight for somebody who cares goofball.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:58pm

      “Miss Gwyneth has a superior intellect (that’s why she is an actress) ”

      That is one of the funniest lines I have read today. I don’t know if you meant it as such.

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 1:51pm

      IlseForian, glad you hit the funny bone. You might be a comic.

      Comics make better actors than actors make comics. Because they need to possess deep empathy, not just extremely high intelligence.

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    • Marylou7
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 2:18pm

      I have absolutely no respect for this Obama loving progressive nor her father.

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    • Mandors
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 2:19pm

      “More people have died because of religious conflict than any other reason.”

      Is there some resume requirement for Hollywood liberals to say such utterly moronic things?

      So, by Paltrow‘s analysis seven million Jews were slaughtered by the Nazi’s because of religion. Thirty million peasants were killed by Communists in Russian because of religion? Oh, and everyone who died in WWI and WWII that was because of religion too. Great.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 4:26pm

      Hey, what happened to your original comment, monicne? Did you ask to have it removed or did the all iwse Blaze censors deem it inappropriate? You can tell my estimation of the worthiness of THEIR feeble judgment. Mental dwarves is more like it. I use the Tolkein plural form in honor of him and also because I wouldn’t put it past them autodeleting the dictionary plural.

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 7:23pm

      @Islesfordian “Miss Gwyneth has a superior intellect (that’s why she is an actress) ”

      That is one of the funniest lines I have read today. I don’t know if you meant it as such.

      Agreed and I would have immediately yielded on that point alone.

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:12am

    Pathetic.

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  • salvawhoray
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:11am

    if I want this kind of worthless news I’ll go to “Yahoo”.

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  • vtxphantom
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:10am

    This is one goofy woman. If you have looked at her politics, she is a nut case.

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    • CatB
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:59am

      Her daughter is named Apple … What would you expect?

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:10am

    I think she’s more clueless than she is Jewish.

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:47pm

      Save your valuable insight for somebody who cares goofball.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:48pm

      Coyote2
      Nothing “low” about the Jews. They have done more for modern civilization than 95% of the other people groups on the planet. Just one example: After they were freed from slavery, did they sit around whining and asking for government assistance for a couple hundred years? No, they went out and became probably the most intelligent and successful group of people on Earth…and they’ve done it time and time again. I think most anti semites are just jealous. Are you jealous Coyote2?

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:58pm

      Nice cut and paste skills MONICNE, ever have an origianl thought?

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 1:52pm

      “original”

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  • myheck
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:10am

    Paltrow’s remarks reflect the mantra of an indoctrinated people.
    “Religion is the cause of all the problems in the world. I don’t believe in organised religion at all. It’s what separates people. One religion just represents fragments, it causes war. More people have died because of religious conflict than any other reason.”
    It’s the latest expression of self-righteousness – the problem doesn’t lie with people, but religion. If we could all escape religion our natural goodness would emerge. It helps us avoid the main problem – the fallen human heart common to us all.
    The music video is no threat to Israel. The cleavage will be off-putting to Muslims, and the video, over-produced and blatant propaganda, cannot become a rallying cry to them. It is also typical of anti-Israel bias. What about freedom for Israel to exist? And freedom from rocket fire from Palestine? Israel is free to defend itself.
    The Palestinian blame-shifting gives them a victim-mentality, which saps initiative and ingenuity in anyone.
    The celebrity Left loses its way again in a feel-good exercise that hurts the people it wants to help. It’s a classic cruel mercy.

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 3:15pm

      @agameofthrones Please ignore the first line as it is not directed at you but rather the nonsensical ideological rants from others here. You point is well taken but it is of course difficult to separate what aspects of one’s knowledge, understanding, faith, etc. influence their thought process and actions most.

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  • JRook
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:09am

    Well she had this part right…..Religion is the cause of all the problems in the world. I don’t believe in organised religion at all. It’s what separates people. One religion just represents fragments, it causes war. More people have died because of religious conflict than any other reason.

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    • agameofthrones
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:26am

      Religion may seem to be the cause but it is really intolerance of other’s beliefs that is the cause. Intolerance brings discrimination and hatred of others because of philisophical differences. You may as well say that racial differences cause wars and there again, the cause is the same. Hatred and intolerance. If those who belong to organized religions (other than Islam) would practice the tenets of their faith, they would allow others of differing beliefs to practice theirs in peace as well. It is man’s intolerance and hate that does this, not religion. Religion is just the ammo.

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 3:04pm

      People consider the following and save your ignorant rants. Link below.
      I heard a while back that more people had died in the name of Jesus than in the name of Hitler. I’d always wondered if it was true, it seemed perfectly plausible given the persistence and viciousness of the Vatican during the Crusades. Unfortunately, I had found it difficult to find a number of deaths from the Crusades. But, I found in Google Answers, this webpage that chronicles numerous human conflicts and includes a category for religious conflicts. The numbers are hazy, of course, when we’re speaking about conflicts hundreds or thousands of years ago when death tallies were not a priority or of mild interest like they are today.

      In short, 809 million people have died in religious wars. That’s nearly a billion people.

      Oftentimes, a retort is that secular ideals and Godless Communism have killed many more. It is true that Stalin, among others, slaughtered his own people by the millions during the industrialization of Soviet Russia. By comparison, 209 million have died in the name of Communism. Some 62 million died during World War II, civilian and military, on all sides. Conclusively, more people have died in the name of religion than in the name of Communism or Hitler, or the two combined times two.

      http://bookrate.wordpress.com/2006/07/22/deaths-over-history-religious-vs-nonreligous/

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 3:16pm

      @agameofthrones Please ignore the first line as it is not directed at you but rather the nonsensical ideological rants from others here. You point is well taken but it is of course difficult to separate what aspects of one’s knowledge, understanding, faith, etc. influence their thought process and actions most. My mistake on utilizing an edgy comment in the beginning.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 4:20pm

      “In short, 809 million people have died in religious wars.”

      Prove that figure, or at least source it to some actual historical calculations. Linking to a blog that simply states that “in short” without demonstrating how it is arrived and how it is broken down is a pathetic form of argument. Is that really the best you can do?

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 4:44pm

      And you continue the lie….Facts are that the vast majority of all wars are caused by population pressure and a need for land/resources. That included the Crusades (both sides were fighting for land and riches using God as an excuse/justification for killing). Mohammed invented his religion in order to justify his pedophilia and greed/lust for power/revenge.
      Unless one considers communism/marxism/socialism to be a religion then the claim of religion being the cause of evil in the world is merely the rantings of a person who hates religion for the sake of hate.

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 5:37pm

      @slesfordian there is a factor of almost 4 over non-religious wars in that figure. Feel free to argue it down. Do you not agree with the wars sited or the death toll. To dismiss it out of hand is of no utility. And please, save the personal attacks for the truly ignorant folks here, there are plenty to go around. You continue to argue from an extreme position that you know can’t be defended. Good interactions though.

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 5:42pm

      @Islesfordian So a selective approach to choosing what time frame and what wars/conflicts to include is an educated approach. You really can’t change the definition or be selective in the application thereof. I have no more need to prove my position anymore than you seem to feel a need to do. Citing only the major wars, or wars the US was involved in hardly covers the timeline for organized religion.

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 5:52pm

      @C. Schwehr Are you kidding or what. Without the organized religion the leaders would have great difficulty in utilizing God as motivator for other goals. Your narrow observations regarding why all wars were fought does not even begin to cover the landscape or the complexities involved. Organized religion is just that, a means to organize around some unified beliefs. Funny how so many here are so quick to identify it is a perfect answer with regards to the Middle East, but of course leaving out the Jewish side of the point. Having worked with orthodox Jews in Brooklyn, I can tell you their are equally driven eradicate what they perceive to be their enemies. So you are saying the 1967 war was about Israel seeking to take land based on over crowding. Hmmm not the way it is presented and discussed here.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 7:08pm

      ” there is a factor of almost 4 over non-religious wars in that figure”

      Where does that factor come from? What establishes it? where do any of those figures come from. I have no need to “argue down” when no data is presented.

      And what is this stuff about selective timeframe? I do not limit anything to one period. I only point out that the period of the modern era dominated by murderous atheistic regimes shows a greater rate of deaths than any other period in history dealing with religious conflicts. Atheism is pretty new on the scene, so it hardly seems fair to compare only one to two hundred years of atheism with two to four thousand years of religion. Apples to apples, and all that.

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 7:31pm

      @Islesfordian It was not clear that you had to click on a hyper link inside the discussion. The following is the list of wars/conflicts and estimated death tolls. Actually my father’s quote, a Sunday school teacher by the way, was that more people were killed in the name of God. But I insert organized religion to reflect the human free will aspect distorts Gods intent for humankind.

      http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstatz.htm#RelCon

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 7:41pm

      @Islesfordian I doubt even a narrow view of atheism would support your statement. The word originated in Greece in the 5 th. century. I would think the term could be used for anyone who consciously denies the existence of any god. Probably not the correct term for early tribes that did not believe in any God or supreme being. However, denial of the spiritual or religious beliefs of the tribes that did would seem to be an atheistic position.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 3:21am

      JROOK, Atheism as a dominant cultural force did not exist prior to the Enligtenment. Various atheists existsed throughout history but their views did not change the ruling culture around them , which were religious in some form or fashion.

      I had followed your link. It gave no list of mortalities with the various conflicts. I had to follow it to a third site.
      http://necrometrics.com/pre1700a.htm
      Here, though, the breakdowns don’t come close to validating the 900 million figure. The crusades alone, one of the bloodiest religious conflict in history, was given various tallies ranging from one million to 9 million.

      If you look at what necrometrics lists as “(Possibly) The Twenty (or so) Worst Things People Have Done to Each Other:” only two count as religious conflicts: the Thirty Years War (7.5 M dead) and the Muslim conquest of India (13 M dead). One could count Timur Lank (17M) as weel, as he conquered as a Muslim. But still these three combined don’t equal the total for WWII (63M).

      Your argument that more people died BECAUSE of organized religion simply isn’t born out by thefacts you your selve direct us to. All the evidence shows that violence is the nature of Man and religion doesn’t CAUSE it, it merely is dragged into the mix. Man will kill man, whether they are religious or not.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 3:29am

      Another serious blow to your argument is simply to invert the premise implicit in it: that LACK of religion would result in less bloodshed than religion.

      The history of the 20th century, which has seen more explicit atheism in positions of power than ever before, would show this to be completely false. It ranks as the bloodiest century of all time. Even if you factor in the increased population base and tally the death count per capita the 20th still ranks at least equal to all other periods. But if your premise is correct we should see substantially less bloodshed as religion decreases in influence in the world. Epic fail, IMHO. :-)

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  • Lloyd Drako
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:09am

    She wants to raise her children “in a Jewish environment,” but apparently does not plan actually to convert.

    Smacks of typical Hollywood dilettantism: she will “kibbitz” the Jews, but not become one. Not at all inconsistent with being pro-Palestinian, so her marriage at least is safe.

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  • ME
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:09am

    I was just thinking I care what Gwyneth Paltrow does no really I do it impacts my life in so many meaningful ways. I realize there is money in tabloids but is that why we come here?????

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  • rl
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:08am

    Who really cares????
    This is NOT news………..

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  • LadyIzShy
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:05am

    hmm how odd, it would be nice to think she has REALLY had an awakening I will believe it when i see it.. frankly I dont much care what people believe as thier faith as long as they dont try to kill in the name of that faith and they allow me to FREELT Practice mine as I see fit

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    • obama-mecca-me-sick
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:11am

      This is the same woman who said she had to move her children to England because America was not a good country to raise them in. Who cares what she says?

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:22am

      obama-mecca-me-sick, that was because Bush was in office, now everything is just peachy. What a ditz.

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 1:54pm

      I for one, am a Semite.

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  • jakartaman
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:05am

    Typical Hollywood – they blow in the wind – looking for the next high.
    I also am confused as to what spirituality is. It could be anything I guess – love of nature – love of self
    can’t be love of mankind – that would be religious. do spiritualist believe in a hereafter? confusing
    I wish her and the family well

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:19am

      Good point.

      Religion is hard, spirituality is easy.

      Religion–any religion–imposes discipline and duty: attendance at regular services, formulaic prayers and creeds, submission to a clerical or other hierarchy, food and dress requirements and taboos, and often much else.

      Spirituality requires little more than having a beatific expression on one’s face, which doubtless is why so many people claim to be “spiritual but not religious.”

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 1:10pm

      Religion is where you recognize the problem with the world, and especially with you, and you submit yourself to the spiritual regimen that will deal with those problems.

      Spirituality is where you declare that there is nothing wrong with the world or with you that can’t be fixed by celebrating everything. It is religion for the well off and shallow.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 1:57pm

      Or: it’s easy to fake spirituality, not so easy to fake religion.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:05am

    Glad she is introducing her children to a relgion indeed; I hope she will get to the point, or the kids do, of looking directly into Christ Jesus and God; they are the two which our lives need to be invested in and centerd upon for the path to salvation, redemption and returning home in the end.

    I wish the best to her in her quest and journey in life, and for her children as well; Gods grace and blessings of enlightenment be with you.

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    • bikerr
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:27am

      @Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}—I’m not questioning your faith,but The Father,Son,AND Holy spirit are the make up of true eternal life and salvation. I believe it as such.

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    • AlmostaCowboy
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 1:57pm

      Going with Bikerr on this one!
      Amen, brother.

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  • eddw2112
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:04am

    Who CARES! really Blaze? This is news? All I hear from The Right (and Glenn) is “Were sick of all the Hollywood elites” and “How come all The ”Rockstars“ are all Lefty Freaks”? Well not ALL bands (artists) are. So you just choose to continue to “give up” that crucial form of political creativity instead of actually giving good Christian Rock Guys a chance? We have sacrificed GREATLY for our views! But we don’t care! We lost a major label deal for this video, but in the end, we were signed by TMG/ (Tate Publishing) who also happens to be a sponsor of GB. Stop griping about the weirdo bands who have no IDEA what regular Americans want…. Simply. FREEDOM! This is the song my band Tarnished played at the Atlanta Tax Day Tea Party a while back, So see there is some great patriotic Conservative Rockers out there Glenn you just need to check your email…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxWBnwh-O8Y

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    • Uncle Tom
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:59am

      Tate is the man! Hey, ask him when DC Talk is going to do another album. I’m sick of this solo/Newsboys stuff!

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  • cntrlfrk
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:02am

    Thank goodness.

    I’ve been waiting to hear her take on world religion.

    /

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    • AlmostaCowboy
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 1:59pm

      What next, Paltrow’s theory of exponential logistical thermodynamics?
      (I just made that up)

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  • Attention2Detail
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:02am

    Apparently disorganized religion is the way to go??? You’ve got to feel sorry for the millions who have been raised in the religion of “What I like is good and what I don’t like is bad”. This is the religion of all liberals.

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  • AmeriCat
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 10:58am

    Then…I hope Paltrow has donated generously to the IDF support groups,

    And of course… she will be at 8 / 24, to Stand With Israel,

    the homeland of her children’s new religion….?….!

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  • T-2
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 10:56am

    the Lord works in mysterious ways

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  • conventschoolgirl
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 10:56am

    She has no idea what she is doing. She just joined Judaism as if it were a club.

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  • drattastic
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 10:54am

    Why do we care about this ? Oh yes ,I DON’T

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  • Jenny Lind
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 10:53am

    Huh? Hot or cold, there is no half-way honey. It just doesn’t work that way, and Islam doesn’t care if you are only “half”, you get tp be their target. Good luck with all this, I sorta pity the kids, screwed up mom and really screwed up father.

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  • TX_45_ACP
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 10:48am

    We can always count on celebrities to lead the way in matters of religion and politices. (not)

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    • TX_45_ACP
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 10:53am

      I meant “politics” (sp)

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    • pajamash
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:05am

      Okay, cute song but when will they come out with “Security for Isreal”.

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  • MONICNE
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 10:42am

    She is just following Glenn’s great example of compassion and unconditional support for the Zionist Jewish agenda.

    These Foreigners are good Jews, not like the so-called Congress-wipe Debbie Wassermann Schultz and the DemonRat Demo-Jew lobby that is trying to eliminate Fox As We Know It and decimate Murdoch and the true Christians.

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    • bigfatslob
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:43pm

      Howdy there troll, ready to burn in hell ?

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 12:49pm

      July 21st is national Troll Appreciation Day.

      Trolls make us think! Trolls make us tough!

      TEA

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  • Deana_jo
    Posted on July 20, 2011 at 10:40am

    Either she’s lost or I am…either is a possibility at this point

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