Hacker Group ‘Anonymous’ Sends Open Letter to Glenn Beck
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The hacker group “Anonymous,” which has claimed responsibility for tormenting companies which have cut off Wikileaks, has published an open letter to Glenn Beck “to set the record straight” regarding who they are and what they do.
Business Insider, which published the letter on its website, says that while the letter is generally friendly, it is also a little odd:
Essentially, ‘Anonymous’ would like Beck to know that a) they are not affiliated with WikiLeaks and b) revolution is a good thing and Beck is more than welcome to join theirs.
I’m not entirely sure what they are responding to — Beck has been mostly pro WikiLeaks for the last week or two, so maybe this is a response to something he said on O’Reilly before he had a change of heart? Or maybe they just know where their bread is best buttered.
The comments Business Insider references were given last week during an hour-long TV show dedicated to Wikileaks and Assange. Here’s what Beck said:
I don’t support this guy. I don‘t support what he’s doing. But I’m really torn on this story. He is exposing the fact that our governments, all around the world, have been lying to us. It‘s a job we’ve been trying to do but been pilloried over and over again for doing it [unlike Assange!]. But I don‘t want a guy to go to jail or be silenced for something he didn’t do.
The letter from the group, which says it’s not really a group, is below:
Mr. Beck,
We have no problem with those who criticize us. We understand that freedom of speech includes the right to speak out in criticism of those whom you may not agree with. We have many critics, and we respect their first amendment rights.
However, in your recent comments, it seems that you and/or your editing team have mixed up a few details during your research on us. We at Anonymous wish to set the record straight, so that you and your audience will be better informed about us and our objectives. Hopefully, this will reduce some of the anxiety you may feel towards us in the process.
You see, Mr. Beck, we are not an organization. We have no leaders. We have no official spokesperson. We have no age, race, ethnicity, color, nationality, or gender. Anyone who claims to speak for all of us is, quite frankly, a liar. To be clear, the gentleman known as Coldblood was not sanctioned by anyone but himself to speak on our behalf.
Your attempts to formally link Anonymous to Wikileaks were misguided. We are not formally linked to Mr. Assange, to Wikileaks, or the break-off operation, Openleaks. To reiterate, we are not an organization of any kind.
You spoke of revolution as though it is necessarily a bad thing. Let us remind you that America was founded upon revolution. Furthermore, the world we live in today is the result of numerous revolutions that have occurred throughout human history – many of them being positive, and resulting in advancements for all of humanity.
You seem to imply that we are revolutionaries. We do not object to this – in fact, it pleases us.
Neither Wikieaks nor its founder have been charged with any crime in connection to any of the published leaks. Thus, we at Anonymous see any actions directed at silencing Wikileaks as an assault on our freedom of information and the freedom of those at Wikileaks to publish as they see fit.
Whether young or old, political or apolitical, moderate or hard-liner, the issue of freedom of speech and information affects us all. Please do not aspire to make the Wikileaks issue more divisive than it already is, Mr. Beck.
We embrace everyone from all walks of life, from all corners of the earth, to join us in our quest to protect and further enhance not only our rights to freedom of information and freedom of speech, but all of our human freedoms.
You are welcome to talk to us at anytime. We will answer any further questions you may have. After further dialogue, perhaps then you will see that you and we are not so different. Anonymous can be anyone, anywhere, at anytime, and that includes you and your audience as well, Mr. Beck. We simply wish to see the freedoms of all Americans and all citizens of Earth to be at the very least maintained, and wherever possible, strengthened and enhanced to their fullest extent.
Signed,
Anonymous
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Comments (382)
GHill7.62
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:54amit’s like project mayhem. they are everywhere. they are waiting tables and pumping your gas..
Report Post »the first rule of Anonymous is do not talk about Anonymous.
capitalismrocks
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:53amFree Speech is essential, but what the Anonymous hackers are doing is using DDoS attacks to silence others they oppose or may not wish to be directly or indirectly associated with the issues of wikileaks (for example Mastercard, Paypal, etc…) and they are using their DDoS as an extortion leverage of consequence to force people to side with them… or else.
Revolution is what brought about America to fighting against the oppressive English govt, however those who fought for revolution did so voluntarily, not at the end of a musket, therefor is Anonymous wishes to place itself within that same view and framework, then it must rally “voluntarily” those sites, organizations and person(s) to their cause from their own free will, not be the threat of DDoS attacks or any other cyber or physical warfare means.
DDoS’ denies others THEIR right to free speech and THEIR right to freely choose if they are for or against such agenda, actions or motives of wikileaks.
Report Post »SeanW
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 3:21pm“and they are using their DDoS as an extortion leverage of consequence to force people to side with them… or else.”
You call it extortion, I call it sanctions. Both are tools to get a body to comply with your wishes. The US does it daily.
“however those who fought for revolution did so voluntarily, not at the end of a musket, therefor is Anonymous wishes to place itself…..”
Your knowledge of Revolutionary War history is appalling. Maybe you don’t know about how British Sympathizers were treated in the colonies. Never heard of “tar and feather”? Do you think a sympathizer’s shop remained open? No. Besides not being able to get raw materials, finished goods, or any services from their neighbors their shops and homes were routinely looted, pillaged and burnt if not outright stolen, oh im sorry confiscated :). Anonymous has not gone and firebombed the institutions, they have not hacked and destroyed these institution’s database structures. What they have done with a DDOS is formed a blockade and inconvenience people by making a webpage take 30 secs to load rather than instantaneous.
Report Post »RoguePatriot
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:51amWow, they are reaching for their cause to get out into the public eye aren’t they…. What a better way than to write the number 1 person right now in news and tell him if you have anymore questions, please contact us!!!!
LAUS DEO
Report Post »firstlast
Posted on December 17, 2010 at 4:39pmDid you forget that Beck commented about ‘Anonymous’ BEFORE they wrote this letter clarifying their position?
Report Post »firstlast
Posted on December 17, 2010 at 5:17pmAnd I wouldn’t go calling Glenn Beck “the number 1 person” in news.
Report Post »BWare
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:50amThese guys are not revolutionaries, they are lemmings who swarm to the Internet’s weak spots and exploit them for fun or profit. Wanna know what kinda scum they are? Just google /b/ or chan or the 34 rules of the Internet.
The enemy of my enemy is not my friend.
Report Post »verb
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:24amNo, It’s much bigger than that. Think more …fight club space monkeys …
Report Post »MeteoricLimbo
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 9:20pm@bware….amen
Report Post »firstlast
Posted on December 17, 2010 at 5:14pmThe internet cannot be controlled or censored as radio, t.v., or print already is. The world governments are trying in vain to block out sites like wikileaks; however the government cannot out-hack a citizen hacker as they could if weapons and force were in play. This is the ONLY time people can possibly be on a level playing-field with the super-powers. We (common citizens) can no longer engage in a revolution using force because we can never compete with the weapons possessed by the powers. The actions of Anonymous are essential to ensure free speech and information. Since it began in 2006, Wikileaks has constantly been evading censorship of their site; numerous times they have been blocked by various governemnts. “Hackers” like Anonymous have helped to ensure wikileaks has stayed online in order to provide an intermediary for whistleblowers all around the world.
Report Post »KenNoel@KennethRNoel.com
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:49amHe doesn‘t speak for ’the group’? Maybe he IS the ‘group’ and trying to look bigger by speaking in the first person Royal tense. I’m underwhelmed.
He doesn’t understand that anarchy quickly degenerates to the harshest of tyrrany. Freedom is best protected by LAW!
Report Post »MrObvious
Posted on December 17, 2010 at 12:07amMost of the anarchists we hear from make almost the exact same mistake most communists and democratic socialists seem to make.
They generalize too much.
The anarchists seem to assume that once everyone is free, the problem is solved; and, nobody will use that freedom to take advantage or acquire power, thus restarting the cycle.
The socialists & communists assume that everyone is corrupt and weak, and that everyone needs to be managed – which then results in the destroying of spirits, freedoms, economies and honor – eventually devolving back into violence and anarchy.
The 16th Amendment (federal income tax) is what empowers the federal government to grow out of control – like it has been doing for the last 100 years or so.
Without it, they couldn’t collect unlimited amounts of money from the people – at least not as easily.
When the federal government is small, our basic freedoms are more protected than when it becomes so powerful that it’s caretakers can get away with passing laws so big, even they don‘t know what’s in them. Omnibus spending bills would no longer be needed. They simply wouldn’t be spending that much.
No rewrite needed, just apply the following patches: repeal Amendments 16(IRS) & 17(general election of Senators) and most of Amendment 14(anchor babies), repeal everything Obama has signed to date, as well as SOx, CRA and the like, shut down welfare, unemployment, HUD, ATF, the FMs, department of education, endowment for the arts and medicaid, privatize medicare and social security, and reduce nearly everything else; then, after all that’s done, if the government still needs more money to perform it’s fundamental functions, install the Fair Tax.
Report Post »Cuthalu
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:47amNo matter if they think their intentions are good, them hacking websites and putting millions of people’s credit cards, passwords, personal ID at risk because they want to lash out mindlessly with no care of who they harm tells me all I need to know about them. But like all hackers, they hide themselves and do not care one bit who they hurt or the lives they ruin as long as they can do whatever they feel like doing.
They are criminals, all of them. I HATE hackers.
Report Post »capitalismrocks
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:00amIt seems the “Hacker Code” is lost on the modern hackers. There was a time, when you abided by a simple ethic — break into a system, but steal nothing, damage nothing. Perhaps leave a harmless message that you were there and move on to your next challenge…
Hacking is about the challenge of circumventing the security measures in place on a computer, its a game of skill, thinking and cunning… however todays hackers have abandoned the Hacker Code. I think Kevin Mitnick would be ashamed to see how todays Hackers have become far too malicous in their objectives and agendas then he himself was in the 80s and 90s… if you don’t know who Kevin Mitnick is…. he is like the Bill Gates of hackers.
Not all hackers are bad, in fact there are 3 camps – White Hats – the good guys who break systems to lock them down more securely. Gray Hats – sometimes good guys gone a little to the darkside, some times bad guys who want to do more good… there are your middle ground guys, who try to do good, but can run astray from time to time. Then you have the Black Hats – these are the scumb*gs, the ones who damage systems, break in to steal for profit or to destroy systems, those who zombie innocent people’s machines for spamming attacks or set them for a pre-determined time to begin a massive Distributed Denial of Service attack on a website.
So not all Hackers are bad.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:58amcapitalismrocks
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:00am
It seems the “Hacker Code” is lost on the modern hackers.
I am sorry but I disagree. White hats or not, to me it is the same thing as breaking into my house, and leaving me a note saying “I broke in.” It is still breaking and entering, and not noble at all.
Report Post »HumanDoing
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 3:55pmYeah what bout playing some Myst or building a cool Rube G device. Hacking your own stuff is one thing, when ya poke around somewhere that doesn’t belong to you its wrong..period .. no matter the justification
Report Post »HAL9000
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:47amA famous reporter once said, Follow the money. Who is funding Wikileaks? Who is funding Anonymous? Useful idiots indeed
Report Post »BWare
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:53amAnonymous is just a bunch of old guys and script kiddies who know the ins-and-outs of the Internet. They call themselves Anon because they know how to move around on the ‘net without leaving tracks. They are not a group. They are just a bunch of guys who hang out on imageboards doing damage.
Report Post »charliego
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:57am@HAL9000
Report Post »Great point,, need some research followup on this!
raybojabo
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:47amHey Anonmous! You want a revolution? Start here: WHERE’S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:07amJust ask yourself if they don’t expose the Birther issue who will ?
Report Post »FOX news ? Glen has already said there is no truth to the birther movement.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=120992
you better get right with God Ray and watch the man who will give you the truth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhDmOm2_A6Y&feature=player_embedded
Nutthuggers
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:51amThe next leak website to open will be run by a freedom loving conservative! This is why we should not give our government the ability to shut these people down!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:47amSo, let‘s pretend it’s May of 1944, A PFC leaks to the NY Times (or anyone) that the invasion of Europe will take place on June 6th in Normandy France and The Times publishes it, shoot the private and pin a medal on the Times?
Report Post »Nutthuggers
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:26amSo, let‘s pretend it’s May of 1938 and it is leaked that the German military has begun ramping up the production of tanks, Lets pretend like it is 1939 and it is leaked that Hitler has plans to invade Poland, Lets pretend that it is Dec, 1967 and it is leaked that the Vietnamese are going to attack Tet. It is 1999 and it is leaked that there will be an airplane suicide attack in New York. Dec, 2010 it is leaked that Obama has asked his lawyers to look into reasons acceptable to implement Martial Law…..
Report Post »Socialists, Communists, Facists, all have a lot more they need to hide then our Republic. We win a lot more through leaks than we lose. We can stay Free through the release of information.
Nutthuggers
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:35amImagine that a hundred different “leak” websites open up and compete with each other for leaks. Imagine if people have information about Obama, his administration, their plans, insider emails, school records, his college scholarship stating he is foreign. Obama wouldn’t have been elected if there had been a leak site that collected leaks on him….
Report Post »OhMyGosh
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 1:28pmThere is no way that the PFC had access to the information he supposedly leaked. They don’t give a PFC that security clearance. Plus from what I have read and understand the two information “highways” he would have had to access don’t even exist where he was at.
I say the PFC is a scapegoat in this case.
Report Post »Psytoxic
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 2:31pm@Ohmygosh
Report Post »False, I had a Top Secret clearance at PV2.
shagstar
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:46amsounds lke the beginning of a new third party!
Report Post »Backpacker
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:45amWhat is really saying:
Mr. Beck,
As I sit here in my underpants in my mom’s basement …
Report Post »verb
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:45amand then …
LOIC 216.52.227.11
Report Post »SusansSS
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:50amWhat exactly does, “LOIC 216.52.227.11″ mean?
Report Post »gman46
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:55am216.52.227.11 looks like a IP address, which resolves to http://www.premiereradio.com
Report Post »BWare
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:59am216.52.227.11 is the IP address of premierinteractive. LOIC is what is known as the internet lazer. Low Orbit Ion Canon. It is a piece of software that neckbeards use to perform DDoS attacks.
Report Post »verb
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:06amhttp://encyclopediadramatica.com/LOIC
216.52.227.11 – IP address glennbeck.com
That’s what the script kiddies do … hang out at 4chan.org … an image message board where they post images with information directing an attack. An image that has to be seen… not text which the NSA can easily filter/notice. An image with an IRC channel in which all cannons connect and are directed.
‘Anonymous’ is a sub-culture. And not part of the wikileak ARG / meme. Now that‘s ’spook’y dude …
Report Post »BWare
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:11amVerb forgot to warn you NOT TO VISIT 4CHAN! /b/ will find you and you will regret it.
Report Post »verb
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:14amhoneypot abound …
Report Post »BWare
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:29amLol
Report Post »gman46
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:27pmExcept if you use n open proxy…
Report Post »SusansSS
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:44amWell, although I did come out in support of info that was first released, I do not support wiki blackmailing my country. I also am VERY much against these hackers attacking businesses. We all understand prez O has bullied these companies that wiki was associated with. Any assult on these companies by hackers is misguided at best.
I’m all for a light being shined on the truth. The truth is these hackers ARE breaking the law and acting like prez O. To put it plainly, they’re acting like thugs and like O, need to be stopped.
Thats my story and I’m sticking to it.
Report Post »ronmorgen
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:18pmThe first incidence of censorship was corporate censorship via credit card companies and internet providers and I was thrilled to see them get payback for that. Though when they attacked Sarah Palin for just speaking out, I didn’t like that. I believe what is being threatened in all of this is our freedom of speech and press. If they can somehow manipulate that result and shut down opposing viewpoints on the internet, we are in deep trouble.
Report Post »SusansSS
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 6:11pmDo I understand you correctly, its only wrong if they attack someone you like? Do you not understand what these businesses did was because of our government? A little nudge from the DOJ and IRS,..meaning threats.
Attacking the companies and Palin was nothing more than thugs doing exactly what they accuse the companies of doing. These thugs are saying, you’re either friend or enemy and we destroy our enemies.
I fully expect when caught, they’ll be idiot violent progressives with more mouth than thought and, more theories than experience….just like most progressives, like O.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:42amYou see, Mr. Beck, we are not an organization. We have no leaders. We have no official spokesperson. We have no age, race, ethnicity, color, nationality, or gender. Anyone who claims to speak for all of us is, quite frankly, a liar. To be clear, the gentleman known as Coldblood was not sanctioned by anyone but himself to speak on our behalf.
Then who wrote the letter and who gave HIM/HER the authority to speak for all of them?
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:42amThe NWO is making it’s move on the US and we need free speech now more than ever
Report Post »just look what’s going on while you still can.
http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/dream-act-a-step-to-the-all-illegal-alien-army/
youtube has already been pulling many video’s about Agenda 21. why ?
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=296
the federal reserve
http://www.zimbio.com/David+de+Rothschild/articles/6/Wo+Owns+Federal+Reserve+Rothschilds+Bank+England
just to get things started
NewFreedomBlog
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:42amSomehow I do not trust someone who simply calls themselves “Anonymous”, and Glenn shouldn’t either. If a Man or Woman does not want to identify themselves, and in the 2nd breath are clearly calling for a “revolution”, this is indeed very concerning.
Come forward Anonymous. Identify yourself and your future goals. Then we may join with you, but my money is on the fact that you are nothing more than a coward who hides in Mommy and Daddy’s basement.
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:42amAssange has openly stated he is an enemy of America and wants to harm it. It is information warfare not “Free speech.”
This is why Libertarianism is a fringe movement in America. Most Libertarians can’t tell the difference between Libertarianism and Anarchy.
Report Post »MarketsClear
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:53amFirstly, we do and we very well know the difference between libertarian minarchy and anarchy. It is the non philosophical types who don’t know the difference between anarchy and chaos. Go to places like lewrockwell.com and mises.org to see libertarian opinions and debates on minarchy and anarchy.
Also, learn the difference between the words “country” and “state.” This has been the goal of the progressives in the state for the past century: to confuse the public into forgetting the difference. To be in opposition to the US government does not make one “an enemy of America.”
Report Post »Ashrak
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:02amLeftists hijacked a movement that threatened them. They did so to make the Capital L libertarian party as leftist as it could to avoid the American people understanding that the vast majority of them are quite libertarian, with a lower cased L, in their individual politics.The Establishment Republican party also benefits from this distortion – as it stands to lose many among its base as it leans ever more left. As more people figure this out, the hard left is losing control of that Libertarian party and thus we see the Green Party come to life.
The best TEA Party town hall comment demonstrated this in Pennsylvania, with Arlen Spectre being the target. A man said quite simply that what we want, more than anything, is for government to LEAVE US ALONE. That is the core of the original American Revolution. Read the Declaration of Independence for proof if needed.
Gramnesty made a outstanding comment last night on Gretta. If Republicans go along with this “compromise” tax and spend bill, they do the party irreparable harm and squander the second chance it was just given. Lower case L libertarians will make a strong play in the capital L party and the Republican Party will go the way of the Whigs. It ain’t about anarchy and the demonizing you engaged in their shows a lack of understanding on your part or a intentional display of intellectual dishonesty.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:03amBooyah!!!
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:32am@MarketsClear
Most people could care less about the hairline distinctions you are making. Look at people like Ron Paul. He wants to gut the military and make us an isolationist country. He has a few good ideas, but most people keep him at arm’s length. Judge Neapolitano is a 911 Truther now. Incredible.
You judge a movement by its adherents.
Most Christians will never vote to legalize drugs or prostitution.
Most Conservatives will never vote to neuter or disband our military.
“Intellectuals tend to spend most of their lives inside their own mind.”
Report Post »NoRoomForSocialismHere
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 1:56pm@MarketsClear, as mudd
Verbal opposition is not harmful if it is the TRUTH!
SUBVERSIVE on the other hand is not allowed lawfully so get your twisting of words straight…
Report Post »guyperram
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:40amThese guys/girls don’t care about freedom of speech, they just want to help the american Marxist/socialist revolution. Most likely a bunch of useful idiots. You don’t protect freedom of speech, by attempting to stop it.
Report Post »Eric-n-OTown
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:39amSooooo, if no one speaks for them, and they have no leadership, who wrote the letter?
Report Post »Room 101
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:41amMy thought exactly.
Report Post »Independent American
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:38amPay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Report Post »Psytoxic
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 2:21pmhttp://www.xkcd.com/834/
Report Post »spookydude
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 4:29pmYesssssssssssss Glennnnnnnn COME to the DARKSIDE………..!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »EP46
Posted on December 17, 2010 at 6:21am@independent
Report Post »SMOKE SMOKE SMOKE
I think this entire thing failed…….for months and months leaks were coming out and everyone just waited for more. I think the idea was to upset Americans so they would DEMAND control of the internet….BACKFIRED …..
handcuff
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:38amUmmm…if nobody can speak for the group, then why is this guy speaking for the group? By his own words, he is calling himself a liar.
“Anyone who claims to speak for all of us is, quite frankly, a liar.“ and then such statements as ”We do not object to this – in fact, it pleases us.”
Additionally, their goal is to attack those who don’t support wikileaks? Is that true? Yet they say they honor the 1st Amendment? I guess it’s one of those “Free Speech to anyone who agrees with me – attacks to those who don’t” sort of things. Maybe I’m missing something…I haven’t heard much about them besides this article.
Report Post »legaleagle
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:51amI thought the very same thing. How can a non-group without a spokesman have a spokesman? Who authorized the author of this letter to speak for a group that doesn’t exist?
Report Post »UlyssesP
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:55amWhich proves these kids watch too many movies. Some will come to their senses when they learn, un-like in the movies, that bullets kill, that there are not nine lives, and pooling blood is sticky, gooey, and a bitch to wash away completely.
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:56amAgreed, It takes a lot of courage and honor to be “Anonymous”
Report Post »booger71
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:09amVery good point, and I might add that hackers by their very nature have no respect for private property which is one of our Republics founding principles.. Their non leader leader is calling for Revolution, but what type? From what I have gathered, many of these “revolutionaries” are nothing more than anarchists who want to destroy capitalism because it promotes true liberty,and liberty promotes self reliance, which they appear to be scared of
Report Post »ProPatriaVigilans
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:12amI now speak for everyone I am “Alias” Now get back to work, nothing to see here.
Report Post »Michigan Vacation
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:14amI second that.
If you stand – then be counted. To hide is not freedom.
Report Post »baron94
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:24amI was a little confused at this letter, as well. It seemed suspicious that Anonymous contradicted themselves. I had to read this letter many times, and each time, I kept thinking about the bible story where Jesus exorcizes a demon out of a man. The demon calls himself “Legion, because we are many.” I also feel uncomfortable with them using the quote “citizens of Earth.” Freedom of speech is something I hold close to my heart. I just worry about what kind of “knight in shining armor” runs out there to fight for it on my behalf, especially when they hide behind a pseudonym.
Report Post »Nutthuggers
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:30amHe isn’t Anonymous, I am! He isn’t Spartacus, I am! No wait a minute who am I??
Report Post »Maybe the GEESE Know More than the BEES Know
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:44am@Baron…..the “citizens of the earth” comment bothers me too.
this part also intrigues me:
Report Post »“Furthermore, the world we live in today is the result of numerous revolutions that have occurred throughout human history – many of them being positive, and resulting in advancements for all of humanity.”
TonyDarrington
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:18pm“If you stand – then be counted. To hide is not freedom.”
It’s funny because you all hide behind pseudonyms here.
If nobody speaks for Anonymous, then who is Glenn supposed to contact for further info as the last paragraph states?
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:38amIf they think revolution is a “good thing”, just wait til they have to leave the security of their Moms basement to go out and see the riots, burning cars and bullets flying, thanks in part to their efforts. This is just a small indication of what we are now experiencing, as a result of an entire generation of kids around the world, who were raised, indoctrinated and turned into drones for the Communist left by public schools filled with radicals and nutjobs as teachers.
Report Post »MarketsClear
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:47amWhy would people who want openness in government be leftist communists? And revolutions are in general philosophical and are sometimes followed by violent rebellions; however the revolution itself is not violent.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:47amThere will be Drones, the kind that hunt us down like dogs.
Report Post »Maybe the job will be sent to India.
http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19029
if you really are a pilot then you realize resistance will be futile against a Drone.
hauschild
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:01amI think, because they’d really like to see America and all her capitalist allies destroyed. These morally bankrupt youths all like mad scientists, without much science.
Report Post »BeckIsNuts
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:37amWeird wild stuff.
Report Post »UrsaMajor
Posted on December 22, 2010 at 7:38pmTell me about it! And here I thought “Anonymous” was just a group of loser perverts who post dirty pictures on porn chat sites.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:35amHow can anyone not understand free speech ?
Report Post »MeteoricLimbo
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:58pmfree speech or freedom of speech….
Report Post »Voice of Reason
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 2:31pmHow can you not understand 18 U.S.C. 793(e)………………..
“Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, (etc. etc.) relating to the national defense, … (which) the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates (etc. etc) the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same (etc) …
“Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.”
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on December 17, 2010 at 10:38amvoice what if Wikileaks gets freedom of the press status ?
Report Post »the UCMJ cannot throw reporters in jail.
at least not yet…..
Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on December 17, 2010 at 8:33pmUsing Infowars will make blood shoot out of the eyes of the Beckerites! Hope these people are ready.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:35amAmen I totally Agree with Free Speech.
Report Post »That is what the Blaze is all about, and I have said from the beginning
the military PFC committed the crime not Wikileaks.
FED-UP-AND-READY-TO-TAKE-ACTION
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:42amI have to agree,I think Mr Beck will also agree as we all learn more about who is who and what ea group seeks to achieve. Without free speech we might as well all be locked away somewhere, that don’t seem to unlikely either with the current state of affairs currently going on with the leftest government leaders……………………….VICTORY OR DEATH
Report Post »felina g
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:42amWhat KIND of “revolution” are we talking about ?
GeauxAlready
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:43amAt least that is what we have been told. I find it hard to believe some PFC with a bag of Cheetoes and a Laptop, got all those documents all by his lonesome. I think not. The Obama adimn. is Nappy Hair deep in this one……
MAULEMALL
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:44am100% correct…..
Report Post »Wikileaks wouldn‘t be having any of this trouble if they hadn’t made a threat to obamas wall street buds..
Stuck_in_CA
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:44amWe all need to follow this story, but without any preconceived bias.
Report Post »wildjoker5
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:48amIf they truely stand for “freedom”, where are all their attacks on China, N Korea, Iran, Pakistan, ect?
tower7femacamp
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:49amthe 1st revolution will have to be information and education
Report Post »Alex Jones coined the phrase INFO WAR a long time ago.
And in that he is dead on.
Ashrak
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:51amThat is it exactly. UNLESS, wikileaks’ Assange or his mates paid this PFC to commit this Treason.
Mainstream Media has corrupted this story from the start with the focus on Assange and wikileaks. In reality, it is no different than the New York Times or any other “news” outlet and the real angle here is protecting old turf that doesn’t even truly exist anymore. Secondarily, there is a protectionism of the gay agenda here as well. Manning did this for a reason and DADT is likely the reason. If the focus is on Manning, then so to is it on DADT.
About the letter written to Beck, well you cannot say you are not an organization, that you are individual and then say “we”. I can understand and accept a group of individuals, but it must be kept on that level and this letter strays from that line. Other than that, I find this letter quite agreeable.
Report Post »gman46
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:52amJust like Beck and most others, I’m torn, it’s dangerous to have enemies see these “leaks” but it’s good for the citizens to see what their governments are doing.
Report Post »FromtheBasement
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:12amI have to disagree, Tower7FEMACamp. Should they be found guilty in trial, the army PFC who got them the info committed espionage and treason. WikiLeaks comitted espionage against the US. Would I like more transparency in our Government? Yes, but not if it means weakening our position in the world stage and putting our troops (and diplomats) lives in greater danger than they already are. Free Speech isn’t free, and not all speech is protected.
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:34amI agree with Felina G, What Kind of a Revolution are you talking about? I agree, you can’t blame a man for just releasing material, he didn’t steal it but the one in the military that did should be held accountable for his crimes. The good thing is that it reveals how the government has been lying to us, this is good and we knew this all along buy it shines the light on the filthy socialist scum that is in our government now. The bad, there is some things that probably should not be in the open that put us in danger. About the revolution, if it is a revolution to get our country back to the principles the founding fathers laid out for us and works, then yes, we are all for it. If it is to back a revolution to support some Socialist one world garbage then NO NO NO, I will fight this with everything I have!
Report Post »black9897
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:38amActually the American “revolution” wasn’t a revolution at all.
Report Post »Sinista Mace
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:39amGo Wikileaks!
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:44amFree speech wins every time.
Report Post »justin.blake
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:52amOf course the last line is a little chilling if you read into it….”Anonymous can be anyone, anywhere, at anytime, and that includes you and your audience as well” That to me sounds an awful lot like a veiled threat. Watch out Mr. Beck…we are watching you, anywhere, anytime. Come on Anonymous..get off of your high horse. Just because information is out there, does not give you a right to it. Free speech is very different from freedom of information. There are plenty of things out there that are none of your business. Of course the world gets to be at the mercy of what YOU determine to be information that merits worldwide consumption. Sounds kinda like you wouldn’t mind holding others hostage to your ideals – not quite a ‘freedom loving’ action now is it?
Report Post »Your claims to being the defenders of human freedoms are a cloak over other motives so that no one can see the truth until they have pulled you in too close. Just like the Wikileaks folks..you don’t mind airing other peoples dirty laundry, but no one can seem to fine YOUR laundry room…..interesting….very interesting.
Lantern
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:03pmOf course you are “Anonymous.“ So you can hide behind the ”anonymous” name without taking any responsibility for anything. In America, we have the right to free speech, but in other parts of the world, it varies. These people are punks.
Report Post »Michiganjohn
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:05pmI wouldn’t say Glenn has been pro wikileaks so much as pro 1st amendment. He rightly calls Assange a scumbag anarchist but also recognizes that he hasn’t committed the crime. The crime was committed within our military and that seems to be getting lost in the news about Assange.
Report Post »veteranproud
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:07pmAmen to ANONYMOUS!!!
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:17pmCan we please finally set the historical record straight here?
America did *not* fight a war for revolution’s sake. A revolution (in pure political terms) would have suddenly, immediately lurched the nation to the Left. This is only true when you associate the Left with liberty, and we see that today’s Left is more about authoritarian government (AKA tyranny) than liberty.
We fought a war for independence, not a revolution.
Report Post »CaptGregg
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:20pmFEMA,
Let me refer you to 18 U.S.C. 793(e), which provides:
“Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, (etc. etc.) relating to the national defense, … (which) the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates (etc. etc) the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same (etc) …
“Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.”
Wanna tell me that Assange did not willfully receive, possess and retain (without authorization) the items listed, and did not have “reason to believe [they] could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation?”
“How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don’t think.” ~~ Adolph Hitler
Report Post »democratgirl
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:24pmHerein lies the bigger problem: while we all KNOW our government has lied to us over the years for whatever reason, THAT is NOT how our enemies will see it. They will not say, ‘Oh, it was the government, so let’s not hold the PEOPLE OF AMERICA ACCOUNTABLE.” No, they will hold the United States of America totally accountable, even if it was 20% that screwed us, we will all suffer for it. So, I guess the question really is, HOW DO WE REALLY WANT TO HANDLE THIS WHEN OUR ENEMIES ACTUALLY READ SECRET DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE SCREWED THEM? My solution is a simple one, if we all agree that our First Amendment rights are more important. Give every single LAW-ABIDING citizen a gun, with a background check, so he/she can defend themselves if our enemies want to take revenge on any part of us. If you do not have a gun now, I suggest you get one quickly because Hillary is talking the U.N into disarming all of us who do have guns. THINK ABOUT THAT right after you decide that yours/our enemies really would like to kill all Americans in any way they can, whether thu the War on Terrorism (al-Queda) or retaliation for what they read in those secret documents………ALWAYS WATCH WHAT THE LIBERAL LEFT-HAND IS DOING.
Report Post »wheredoesthemoneylead
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:36pmAgreed! All the money goes to Sweden and the Swedish private Banks! That is why they want to stop Wikileaks! Follow the money, it is in Swiss Private banks and backed by some evil folks!
Report Post »NoDaDAZone
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:41pmWhat kind of revolution is he talking about? Violent anarchist revolution or a populist “take back the country” uprising?. Destructive vs constructive.
If they are Dadaists – forget it. Dada means Progressive. They are communists, socialists and anarchists. They build nothing. They destroy. They want to kill God and Liberty and Art. They want to rule the world. They are not fit to live on this earth God created”–(Salvador Dali as related to Marc Rubin in 1974)
Dada Video Expose:http://www.marcrubin.com/dada2.ivnu
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 1:05pmI like the conundrum, the letter writer proclaims: “Anyone who claims to speak for all of us is, quite frankly, a liar.” But then who wrote this letter to speak for all of them? Apparently a liar by his own admission.
Report Post »Marnin
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 1:26pm“the military PFC committed the crime not Wikileaks”.
Really?
Among the criminal laws apparently broken by Assange is 18 U.S.C. 793(e), which provides:
“Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, (etc. etc.) relating to the national defense, … (which) the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates (etc. etc) the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same (etc) …
Carnivor
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 1:31pmAnonymous is a lair!
“You see, Mr. Beck, we are not an organization. We have no leaders. We have no official spokesperson. We have no age, race, ethnicity, color, nationality, or gender. Anyone who claims to speak for all of us is, quite frankly, a liar.”
What give Anonymous the right to speak on behalf of Anonymous?
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 1:48pm“You spoke of revolution as though it is necessarily a bad thing”
The group calling itself “Anonymous” has Glenn Beck wrong I have heard him say that he himself is a revolutionary, and as a Constitutionalist, I would find it odd if he didn’t understand the morality of revolution, per se.
Try to understand that a seeming lot of revolutions have come from faulty logic, resulting in great, and unnecessary, loss of life. and so the word “revolution” has come to connote meaningless violence and death. I believe Beck was using the current colloquial definition of revolution to say that a lot of the violence which is part of a revolution, which is often due to misinformation, can be solved with information instead of violence. I think we all agree that self-preservation – even the preservation of our belongings – sometimes requires violence.
Further- and this is very important to understand – the American Founders, who were indeed revolutionaries, were not anti-government or anti-authority. Our Founders very much respected these things. But they understood that government was for the benefit of the individual who’s taxes help fund it; and that governments are created and sustained by the People – not the other way around.
American Constitutionalists love the rule of law when that law is beholden to logic, rather than merely to itself – (read: “stare decisis” as described by Progressives) because it is understood that there is a process for logically establishing guilt, or else otherwise our individual freedoms are maintained according to the God-given individual liberty of the human identity.
Report Post »ClassicalLiberal
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 2:02pmThat was a respectful letter by Anonymous to be honest. I somewhat support their actions and it depends on the “revolution” they are talking about. So long as there is self-ownership, private property and non-aggression, I am down with it. Government exposure is a MUST and so this is not so bad really. Beck is wise to be supportive of their rights, even if he dosen’t fully agree. Its an easy issue to be torn on. Its those who think they should be called terrorists or in prison etc is where i have the problem.
Liberty is life. Statism is death.
Report Post »paulamadden
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 2:03pmI agree with the comment below….if this group and Wikileaks, etc. are so concerned about Freedom of Speech….then why aren‘t they attacking the Socialist and Communist countries who don’t allow it?
Report Post »NoRoomForSocialismHere
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 2:09pmAn open Communist party for the subversive overthrow of a government is good? Subversives should have free speach? This is mixing the rights of Patriotic American Citizens with a Subversive groups and that is not acceptable nor is it free speach. They do not have a right to a platform, my American family of 401 yrs did fight for this twisted logic.
Expressing a persoanl view in an argument is not the same as overthrowing a government of the people and by the people with tyrannical rule. Seperate the subversive anti-Americans from America, they have no rights. I guess it time for war on our land so we can throw the anti-Americans into the ocean.
Report Post »NoRoomForSocialismHere
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 2:12pmThis should be repeated for those that make up laws in their minds to suit their arguments.
CaptGregg
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:20pm
FEMA,
Let me refer you to 18 U.S.C. 793(e), which provides:
“Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, (etc. etc.) relating to the national defense, … (which) the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates (etc. etc) the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same (etc) …
“Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.”
Wanna tell me that Assange did not willfully receive, possess and retain (without authorization) the items listed, and did not have “reason to believe [they] could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation?”
“How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don’t think.” ~~ Adolph Hitler
Report Post »dansonfire
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 2:23pmI had the same thought as carnivore, if no one is authorized to speak for annonymous then the author of the letter is incredulous. Also, this struck me as having been inspired by the movie Eagle Eye.
Report Post »AnnMarie
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 2:35pmThe fact that the docs were illegally obtained, this guy from Wikileaks knew this and continued to release no matter what…For that, I think he deserves what he gets. I am not so clear on how the PFC was able to access and then transmit these docs. That I think also needs to be looked into. Holder needs to stop spending time filing cases for the Muslim teacher who wants to take 3 weeks off in December and devote the time to this. This is more harmful to this country and the security then a Muslim teacher trying to get her 15 minutes of fame and many dollars as a settlement. Holder really does need to go.
Report Post »101
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 2:50pm.
Sounds like a nut job…was there any white powder found in the envelope?
Anonymous is anonymous because he must stay anonymous because nobody can speak for anonymous…bet this guy “anonymous” is connected to something anonymous. lmao!
Signed Anonymous
Report Post »SeanW
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 3:08pmAs long as everything that WikiLeaks has reported is factually accurate and not falsified then he has every right to publish it and make sure that it gets to as many people as possible. I would be so bold as to say that not only does he have the right to publish it, but it is his duty as a global citizen to release all of the information, undoctored, unedited, to as many different outlets as is possible in the digital age.
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 3:22pmYes, I’m replying to the first post in order to get this out there:
STOP POSTING LETTERS WRITTEN BY A 15 YEAR OLD CHILD. THERE IS NO SPOKESPERSON FOR ANONYMOUS.
Seriously, if you were on the inside you’d realize how incredibly foolish this makes The Blaze look. This is just like Oprah’s “over 9000 penises” comment; a joke. One 15 year old kid convinced Oprah there were “over 9000” (a meme) penises raping children. Now one 15 year old has The Blaze thinking it’s speaking to a hacker.
This is the most cringeworthy thing I’ve seen on this site.
Report Post »docvet
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 3:33pmJust a few thoughts as I read the letter:
1. The reference to the 1st amendment indicates that this person is probably an American.
2. Publishing secret govt info is not a revolution, it is just exposing govt info. A revolution refers more to opposing the authority that one has over another and establishing a new authority or an absence of authority.
3. “join us”? Who is “us”? If it is everybody or nobody, we are already members, and of a non-group at that. How do we contact everybody and nobody – write a letter to Santa Claus?
I agree with those who find this a bit strange. If the point is to promote freedom of information, why is the U.S. on the front burner? Does China, Russia, N. Korea, Iran, etc. have a “freedom of information act”?
No, this is just another America hater and one-worlder who recognizes that America is the only force left that keeps the concept of freedom alive and has to be brought down first. Imagine a one world govt that falls prey to another Hitler or Stalin. No one will be left to stand up like the U.S. has numerous times. Our freedom is both our strength and our weakness, as Anonymous is aware.
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 3:50pmHey N37BU6, yeah you, you little leftist snake:
Last I knew it was just a story about an anonymous letter. Wow, i guess you have info that no one else has. Here’s a piece of advice, dont like the site or the stories, get the hell out of here. It’s almost like freedom of speech- you can haul ass anytime you want to. Huffpo is looking for editors. I‘m sure you’ll fit right in. The people at this site are thirsty for all information. We are not as smart as you are and we don’t watch oprahs penises. Please put up your sites web address so we can all go see your amazing content- you probably sell amway products. You lefties are all the same. Trying to make a name for yourself using Beck. Get off your ass and get a real job.
Report Post »ME
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 3:57pm@wildjoker5
the biggest attacks on freedom are here in the USA they have never had freedom in China, N Korea, Iran, Pakistan, ect. The truth is out this government does not represent the people but the government look at approval ratings and what they are still trying to cram down our throats and the 21s the FCC votes on what congress and courts have said no to and that will be the end of internet freedom hiding in “net neutrality” Anonymous and groups like them are the militias of the internet I may not agree with everyone of them but they will and are willing to fight a very important fight for the first amendment.
Report Post »oldoldtimer
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 4:13pmSince the NY Times did the same thing Assage did will they be prosecuted also. 18USC was written for citizens. Assage is not a citizen and nor subject to US laws unless he does it on US soil. NYT is a whole different animal. They can easily be prosecuted but being a Obama supporter, nothing will be done. NYT would not publish the Climategate emails because they were stolen but they will publish stolen classified military documents that get our kids killed. NYT is definately a tratior guilty of treson. i think they are working with Obama to destroy our countries creditability.
Report Post »TonyDarrington
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 4:22pm@ leftfighter: Chill out. He was making a valid point. This is a poorly written letter by someone who clearly has the intellect of a 15 year old. He purports to be the spokesman for a group that he defines as being leaderless, unorganized and without a spokesman. Then asks Glenn to contact the group for more info. There is no logic to it, and no point.
Report Post »TonyDarrington
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 4:27pmSorry @leftfighter, I meant to direct that comment to slaptheleft.
Report Post »chance_85202
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 4:37pmWhat if the PFC had given the documents to Soviet intelligence, North Korea. or the Taliban? Would that still be free speech? Or treason? Free speech still has responsibilities. No screaming fire in a theater. No putting innocent people at risk.
Report Post »pajamash
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 5:00pmPlease Tower, you are nieve to believe that Wikileaks did not play a part in obtaining the information. If there were no Wikileaks, pfc Bradley Manning would not have downloaded the information. This is not a case of freedom of speech, it is a case of treason. Assange encouraged the young pfc. to obtain the information so he and his group are just as culpable as the pfc.
Consider this; what if there had been a Wikileaks during World War II. What if the earlier version of Wikileaks had obtained and distributed information about the work on the Atomic Bomb. What if there was such outrage toward our government by its citizens and people around the world that all work would have had to be stopped. While the bombs caused untold horror in the Japanese cities over which they were detonated, they did end the war.
It would be a perfect world if we had complete transparency. The unfortunate truth is that is impossible until the likes of the Hitler’s, Mussolini’s, Saddam Hussein’s, Osama Bin Laden’s, etc. are no more.
What we need to consider is the larger picture. My belief is that Assange is just someone who hates America. Do you see how those that hate America are supporting Assange? Michael Moore, a man that has made a fortune off of Americans and it’s capitalist system, hates America. He hepled raise Assanges bail. Some web sites speculate Soros helps fund Wikileaks. One web site hints that one backer of Wikileaks may be Saudi Arabia who supports other terrorist groups and networks.
So before you go to freedom of speech, think about the possibilities of what might be happening here with Wikileaks. What is it that some have to gain by the destablization of America? If Soros is a backer of Wikileaks, does this not help nudge us more toward his beloved New World Order?
I may not like all that our government has done, continues to do and will do in the future but I still believe that America has the worlds best interest at heart. Wikileaks likes to point out that the American government has not been completely honest. I ask Julian Assange, “Have you been completely honest with the world? What haven’t you told us? Why don’t you list those that have supported Wikileaks with anything over $100.00? You like to point to how the US insn’t truthful so why is it that you are being so guarded?”
Report Post »BrotherWill
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 5:34pmSure, and its the hitman who committed the crime, not the guy who hired him, or its the burglar who committed the crime not the guy who knowingly bought the stolen goods. Sorry, they are both criminals, both guilty of espionage.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 5:39pmFromtheBasement.. exactly what dangers have occurred?? I mean that haven’t already been occurring? I will say our spy’s may be on the line.. HOWEVER.. we have no doubt already reallocated them with new Identities..all that has happened is our politicians like HILARY are trying to get the egg off their faces..and they will most likely have more egg when the Wall Street stuff hits the internet..
Report Post »roughneck.seay
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 5:42pmI agree also, but I don’t think a crime of this scale should go unpunished. I think Assange should Get a lesser punishment for the aid in distrabution of the documents. We need to get to the bottom of this, and fid out who’s idea it was, and who put that kid up to geting the documents in the first place insted of fallowing the media and pointing our finger where ever they lead. We need to read all we can on disinformation tactics. Google it.
We also need to be careful who we align ourselves with, because when you really think about it, anarchy (from Greek: ἀναρχίᾱ anarchíā, “without ruler”) “A social state in which there is no governing person or group of people, but each individual has absolute liberty (without the implication of disorder.”) Is one step BACK from our idea of limited government and freedom. The founders found that balence betwene government and freedom, and that’s what we need to get back to, but NO FURTHER.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 5:48pmdemocratgirl.. While I never say NEVER.. Hilary can talk all she wants the only way they get our guns is bullet first.. people have gotten guns and passed them around so much they don’t even know where they came from.. they have the registered and unregistered.. buried in their back yards, between their floor boards etc.. anyone who agrees with the 2nd amendment has been aware of Politicians trying this time and time again over the years..
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 6:32pmI’m completely chilled. If the letter was written by a 15 year old then so be it. The quest for knowledge is neverending. The posting of the letter in no way reflects the credibility of anyone. for all we know it was written by Soros. It‘s frickin’ news. There are thirty other stories listed that may be more to someones liking. I’m with you though.
Report Post »Pocono Countryboy
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 6:40pm“the military PFC committed the crime not Wikileaks”
Bingo!
Report Post »Rosey
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 7:07pmDid everyone catch the underlying threat at the end?
Report Post »“Anonymous can be anyone, anywhere, at anytime, and that includes you and your audience as well, Mr. Beck.”
Look at all the supporters of wiki and Assange; leftist almost to a man. This was a blatant threat towards “Mr. Beck” just like the threat from Soro’s #2. These people are dangerous. They are not interested in freedom of speech. They are interested in thier freedom-to-dictate-to-the-masses-what-speech-is-acceptable. They are trying to dictate to the rest of us what the conversation is going to be. Control the language and you control the argument. These people are brilliant and very close to a complete takeover, all that is left is the media. Like Van Jones said, the media is “the last frontier” in the fight to a truey progressive America. Stand up and speak out America…we still surround them and don’t let them tell you any differently!
JFreak
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 7:21pmSo let me get this straight….
Annonymous does not have a spokeman?
No one can speak for everyone in Annonymous – right?
So when this letter says that they are not connected to Wikileaks, are they speaking for everyone in their organization? That just doesn’t add up to me….
Report Post »Aeric98
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 8:00pmwhy could wikileaks find out something about Aliens while they were getting info.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 9:05pmSo, if you have no “spokesperson”, “leaders”, “organization” then I‘d say who are you to make any statement that might ’contradict‘ GB’s comments? Just another mouth piece trying to speak as though he has/she has something more than an opinion? no different than any one of us.
Report Post »The_Internet
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:19pmHai, guys… the Internet here.
Just wanted to let you know I meant everything I said in this letter. Don’t listen to N37BU6, he’s insane, and a leftist. Anyone who would believe him is also insane, and a leftist.
Carry on.
-The Internet.
Report Post »ozz
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:23pmThe constitution trumps any law. What part of free speech do you not understand? If it is the truth it is iron clad protected.
Report Post »TonyDarrington
Posted on December 17, 2010 at 4:41am@N37BU6…easy trigger. I think there are only 2 people who work behind the scenes at TheBlaze. I don’t think they go back to any of the stories once they are posted, unless there is a major update. They don’t have time to read the comments, they don’t even read the support forum, so your request to change the headline falls on deaf ears.
Report Post »grumpyt
Posted on December 17, 2010 at 6:18amWe all must refrain from “knee jerk” reactions to stories that come out about the press and governments. Free and unfiltered research is what we must have. I was guilty of condemning Assange when this first started. Now, while I don’t want anyone to get snuffed because of the stories, publish them.
The real question is where did the stolen files REALLY come from. This young PFC most likely didn’t have unlimited access to the kind of info that has been published. Most certainly not to both Military and State Department files. AND how did he have access to a computer that both had access to the files PLUS a way to download the files. Everyone with Security access at either Government or Private business files knows that most of the computers don’t have CD burners or USB ports that allow file downloading or burning. Come on folks…who REALLY did this?????
Report Post »abolished
Posted on December 17, 2010 at 8:43am@WildJoker5
I was not part of it but was watching as it happened. Anonymous actually DID do a minor DDoS attack against some North Korean websites.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on December 17, 2010 at 11:08amOk I must respond to the many posters who disagree with me
1st can anyone prove wikileaks took documents ? If they did, that is espionage
and a crime, I have yet to see any proof of that. and Captian you are right
18 U.S.C. 793(e) Sends a chill down my spine, I stand corrected.
But look how the courts have ruled in the past
No Prior Restraint or Compelled Publication.
The Supreme Court has yet to find a permanent government restraint on publication that was not unconstitutional. The justices have said repeatedly that government cannot suppress an idea because society considers it repugnant or offensive, and therefore have made it all but impossible to stop an idea from entering the intellectual marketplace.
The Court has struck down government efforts to stop publication in cases involving libel, national security risks, and prejudicial pretrial publicity. It has indicated that prior restraint might be tolerated in cases of obscenity and incitement to violence and national security if the government demonstrates a sufficient risk of harm.
The Court first declared prior restraint to be unconstitutional in Near v. Minnesota (1931), when it struck down a Minnesota state law that allowed officials to prevent the publication of a “malicious, scandalous and defamatory” magazine or newspaper. Five justices backed an opinion declaring that the most widely accepted understanding of the First Amendment is that liberty of the press means a prohibition of prior restraints on publication. “The fact that the liberty of the press may be abused,” wrote Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes, “does not make any less necessary the immunity of the press from previous restraint in dealing with official misconduct” (pp. 719–720). The Court said that public officials who are defamed can sue for libel, but they cannot constitutionally stop the reporting about their behavior. The First Amendment, the Court said, rests on the belief that even if charges of official crimes and blunders disturb the peace, “a more serious public evil” would result if officials could determine which stories were published by the media (p. 722).
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I may be wrong about the ability of the US to prosecute this guy.
But that is not good for the American citizens, anyone who has not read 1984
please do so.
CALIDUDE
Posted on December 17, 2010 at 2:26pm@GeauxAlready You have made racist comments more than this one instance. What Progressive Website are you a troll from? Due to the lack of intellect I am going to bet you are a HuffPoster.
Report Post »Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on December 17, 2010 at 8:30pmFrom the basement- I do not believe wikkileaks to upset our standing in the world stage. I believe it is greedy atheistic progressives and the NWO that we lazy Americans have voted for. Nothing is ruining us more than our finances and our willful killing of the innocents. Our country is a river of baby blood crying out to God for justice. The meaning and power of blood is vastly underestimated.
Report Post »slwolfgram
Posted on December 17, 2010 at 10:47pmMaybe Wikileaks didn‘t steal the documents but that still didn’t give them the right to publish them.
Report Post »Citizen #25R624
Posted on December 18, 2010 at 4:13am“Anyone who claims to speak for all of us is, quite frankly, a liar.”
So if anyone speaking for the group is a liar, does that mean that this letter is a lie? It seems to speak for the entire group, but wait. They aren’t really a group, per se, as much as just a gathering of people with a common goal and a name. Like an army, but without uniforms. Uh-oh. An army without uniforms is like a terrorist group (there’s that word again)–or a flag football team. But do they keep score? Who is that behind the curtain? I’m so confused.
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