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Has Godlessness Truly ‘Doomed’ Great Britain?

Has Godlessness Truly Doomed Great Britain?

Rabbi Shmuley Boteach

It’s no secret that Europe has been shedding its religious identity for some time now. As time progresses, some leaders in religious circles have publicly pondered the impact this decline could have on various societies. Among those concerned is Rabbi Shmuley Boteach. In a recent piece for the Jerusalem Post entitled, “Godlessness Has Doomed Britain,” Boteach describes the negative impact that this movement away from faith and religion has had on Great Britain. He writes:

Britain today has become one of the most godless societies on Earth. Its principle ‘religious’ exports today are thinkers who despise religion. From Richard Dawkins, who has compared religion to child abuse, to my friend Christopher Hitchens, who titled his 2007 book God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything, the British have cornered the market on being anti-God – at least the Christian and Jewish varieties.

Boteach goes on to compare the disparities between the United States and England when it comes to stated belief. While 92 percent of Americans believe in God, only 35 percent of the British do. Startingly, 43 percent of Britons claim that they have no religion at all. A simple look at the percentage of individuals associated with the Church of England perfectly illustrates and corroborates the decline — a drop from 40 percent in 1983 to 23 percent in 2009.

But, what’s so different about America? Why do people here believe more readily in a higher power? Boteach writes that, “Religion lives and dies in America like a commercial enterprise, and is therefore highly entrepreneurial.” With no official state religion, there’s no one, on a national scale, defending the faith per se. So, in essence, there is a freedom to worship at will.

Boteach goes on to claim that Europeans often laugh at American evangelicals, while praising the decline of religion as a sophisticated move in the right direction. This, he claims, is not the proper way to view the issue. Instead, he laments Britain’s decline in faith:

This decline of faith and optimism may account for why Britain – once the most advanced nation on earth, which gave the world parliamentary democracy and inimitable centers of higher learning – is today more famous for exporting reality shows like Big Brotherand Project Catwalk.

For while religion affirms the infinite dignity of the human person, its absence robs life of its sanctity. Universal exploitation and humiliation for fame and fortune are the inevitable outgrowth.

Certainly, America — like Britain — has many social and political problems. But, Boteach contends that the “spiritual underpinnings of the American republic” ensure that citizens continue to debate, soul-search and engage in national discourse. He contends that England should rediscover its own faith so that the nation can find its “sense of purpose” once more.

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  • lisa2994
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:46am

    Well I do know that if you turn your back on GOD he will turn his back on you! Something you should never, ever do!

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    • Flypaper4weirdos
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 6:25am

      What if the Hindu’s have it right? Shiva is going to do more than ‘turn his back’ on you………..

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  • Brontefan
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:46am

    Actually, the British has embraced socialism for some time now.. along with much of Europe. America is the last hold out and we are sliding down that road rather rapidly with our Marxist president who happens to be of color. Would we have embraced a Marxist president surrounded by radicals and terrorists if he had been white or Jewish? Possibly not. It only proves people see what they want to see–not the truth. Any journalist with half a brain and no ax to grind, could easily have discovered how deeply rooted our president is with Marxism and dedicated to social justice as long as he can assign it without living UNDER it. However, with the ACLU and the recent trends to eliminate GOD from the public sphere, along with Muslim populations expanding, we are going the way of the UK and Europe. However, if one is sane, you have to ask why would we do that now that we can SEE the disaster that awaits us? Socialism doesn’t work; it never has. I believe the removal of GOD and the shifting away from personal responsibility will be the downfall of America.

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  • NotMotherEarth_FatherGod
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:42am

    This is the kind of thinking and speaking that’s dooming England… Life is not about us!! What pleases us (what we think pleases us) may not be pleasing to the God who created us for better things. Not condemning: been there, done most. But I discovered that life wasn’t about me, that Someone loved me more than I did, and could supply my needs better than I could. He supplies our needs; Satan supplies our wants. And he hates our guts!

    Blessings!

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  • HemiOwner
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:41am

    Wonderful remark on how religion affirms the dignity of man. Well said. Rumsfeld was right when he referred to it as “Old Europe”. A land in rapid decline.

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    • Flypaper4weirdos
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 6:31am

      Sorry, can you tell me what exactly religion has brought in the past 2000yrs other than conflict, repression, bloodshed & death?

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  • TalonTed
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:41am

    That’s O.K. The Muslims will ensure that Great Britain does not become “Godless”!

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    • jacquecustard
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 1:04pm

      Soooo true, the fools are going quietly like sheep to Islam !

       
  • dizzyinthedark
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:39am

    “….Europeans often laugh at American evangelicals” Sam Kineson mocked them and I had a good laugh with him. Is it any wonder why so many Americans began to question God, the Church, their roll in the family when the parents were not doing their job in telling their own children where they fit into the family structure, society or community? Jobs were no longer available in the home towns so children were moving away from the family structure and no one seemed to mind or find this odd. Everything slowly broke up. Evangelicals were yelling at us about God and Jesus telling us how awful we were, the Catholics were doing naughty things to boys and couldn’t be trusted, social justice, well we all know about that now….the list goes on about how ‘the Churchs/religion’ fails, but God does not. God resides within. It is man who has fallen asleep, once again allowing another to lead the way because of ? (you fill in your own excuse). AWAKE once again and allow God to lead our lives and we follow.

    America is the gift given to all of us and we have done a good job of trashing her. Do you really want to go on thinking and believing it can’t be taken away? It is being taken away. Bit by bit, inch by inch. Under the guise of a project called Agenda 21. Nafta is another and Rick Perry should start talking about this one for he has some ties to it too. These are as dangerous as the Muslim Brotherhood, ISNA (the front organization for the MB).

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    • Elaine P
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 7:58pm

      You are right. Anyone who doubts you can go to http://www.AmericanPolicy.org and read all about AGENDA 21. You can also see a video with Tom DeWeese explaining AGENDA 21. It is shocking what the idiots and morons have planned for America.

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  • dissentnow
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:33am

    Godlessness dooming Britain? Godlessness, no. Political correctness and islam, yes.

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    • GIDEON612
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:49am

      Here is where the problem lies, religion. Religion tends to be corrupted by individual theologies and traditions that have nothing to do with God or His Word, the Bible. The largest religions of so called Christianity have gone way off the tracks and have become large cults that are far from the message of the Gospel of Jesus that leads people to Jesus.

      I am not a christian because the term christian has been tainted just as the rainbow has been tainted by the perverted people that use it for their symbol now. That is how Satan works, now that shows you the whole of the democratic party as well.

      I am not a religious person but I am a devout reader, studier and follower of the Scriptures.

      I am a disciple of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, a follower, one that has submitted ones self under the discipline and direction of Him.
      We are not called to a religion we are called to follow Him and live like Him.
      If you are not in the fire you are not in the game.

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  • JEANNIEMAC
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:31am

    Just as King Henry VIII declared himself head of the English church because he wanted to commit adultery, murder and gluttony with impunity, making himself into his own god, so the English people are following his example.

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    • Susie
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 10:01am

      Jeanniemac – King Henry Vlll only thought he was willfully breaking away from the Catholic pope who refused to give him a divorce – in actual fact, God was in charge there and the king’s actions laid the foundations for the growth and spread of the great Christian reformation, which I might add, England exported around the world.

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    • spider308
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 11:57am

      “Just as King Henry VIII declared himself head of the English church because he wanted to commit adultery, murder and gluttony with impunity, making himself into his own god, so the English people are following his example.”
      I must be getting slow on the uptake, are you really saying that you believe all English people commit adultery, murder and gluttony with impunity just like King Henry VIII when he got rid of the corrupt catholic church, or is it that you are just another stupid blinkered American from a country that wasn’t even on the map at the time this occurred??

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    • lijjo
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 1:35pm

      My thoughts too…

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    • Flypaper4weirdos
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 6:51am

      No, we (well, most of us) reject ALL gods for no other reason than the entire, logically impossible, superstitious hogwash is insane. The ONLY reason you believe what you do is because you were told to. Fortunately we’re a little more liberal & our education system isn’t quite in the state yours is in. If one person believed in god he’d be declared mad, it‘s only ’acceptable’ because many share the same irrational, baseless belief.

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  • lhills
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:30am

    Putting your faith in man never works out well. Whether it is the overly optimistic humanist who thinks that all people are basically good and we need only to look within ourselves or the person who wants a benevolent dictator to make the world just, there is nothing but violence, poverty, and heartache at the end of that road.

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  • dissentnow
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:28am

    turdcutters?

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  • EddardStark
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:25am

    I think most Britons would say that they debate, soul-search and engage in national discourse just fine without religion. The idea that you cannot have those things without religion is preposterous.

    Interesting that this article would criticize the exploitation of people in reality television and praise exploitation in the “commercial” religion of the United States. Besides, last time I checked all those Jersey Shore cast members wore plenty of crosses and proudly declared their Italian Catholic heritage. It seems their “divine sense of purpose” led them to trashy reality television as quickly as Christopher Hitchens led Great Britain to Big Brother.

    I imagine Northern Ireland could do with a little more godlessness considering the recent religious violence there.

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    • FIRESTORM6
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 2:05pm

      Most of those animals in the video are just that. They are that way by choice and most likely without a morale compass to guide them. As to your comment, “The idea that you cannot have those things without religion is preposterous.” The video shows us just what an Atheist society would look like Godless, and when you take God out of the equation it’s easy to be animalistic. Just look at it this way, because I think it’s the only way you might understand. Lets link bad behavior to the ID or the I, (Narcism, self gratification, primal wants or needs.) So lets say God represents the Superego.
      without ones Superego or God to keep us in check then society as a whole is doomed. Anyone can wear a trinket and say they are Christian it is their actions that are suspect. Religion is man made Christianity is a way of life.

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  • joe conservative
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:24am

    Whether you like religion or not, there is no doubt that it does provide a moral compass for many people. I think this is a contributing factor to why our society is in such decline. Check this vid out, explains it all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUA3iQjLH4g

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  • Centralsville
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:23am

    Not to worry. What’s the old saying, nature abhors a vacuum. People instinctively believe in God. God put that in us. That is what separates us from the animals. Modern liberalism has an ongoing attack on that instinct. Islam will eventually fill the vacuum in Europe. The modern West is commiting suicide.

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  • Richard Compton
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:21am

    Great britain is no longer great simply because it tried to be all things to all people, including God.

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  • Komponist-ZAH
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:20am

    It would seem that England has forgotten “her precedence of teaching nations how to live”.

    I don’t know about “doomed”. The problem is not so much godlessness as it is collectivistic godlessness—the elevation of society over the individual crushes him, and erodes the very bedrock of Anglo-Saxon, and, indeed, Western, civilization much more so than lack of belief. However, lack of belief in a Supreme Being Who has created Man (not men) in His Image, and endowed him with inalienable rights and, above all, creative power can (though need not—e.g., Ayn Rand) lead to the very collectivistic outlook that so undermines the individualism that is the very foundation of Western culture.

    But, don’t count the Brits out just yet. I think they’ll wake eventually; they’ve just been under the “progressive” anesthesia a little longer than we have.

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  • Susie
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:20am

    A void will always strive to fill itself and nothing could be truer than in the case of religion. As secularism destroyed Christianity and Judaism in Britain, the spiritual void it created is quickly being filled by Islam. I see it happening here too. First secular debauchery destroys faith and family, leaving a populace hungry for spiritual rescue, and well, you know the rest.

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    • Melvin Spittle
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 10:34am

      @Susie I agree. The vacuum left in Britain will be filled by Islam if unhindered.

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    • honestynow
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 10:34pm

      I agree to an extent. However, I don’t think most true Brits (non-immigrants) will flock to Islam. In fact, I think that because of the Islamization taking place there now, it may send more folks back to the church. It is most unfortanate that their church leader is a lunatic who seems to embrace Islam. Nonetheless, some of them have have awoken to realize what’s taking place. Let‘s hope the rest do quickly before it’s too late.

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  • teddrunk
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:18am

    2 Chronicles 7:14

    New International Version (NIV)

    14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

    Good advice for Great Britain and America too

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    • TPaine
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:55am

      All lthe more reason to consider the grave possibility that we are in the End Times. And before someone flames me for being a “The World is Coming to an End!” messenger, I am NOT claiming that the end is tomorrow. But anyone who has read the Bible will concur that all of the signs are here. Christians are being persecuted, the U.S. is becoming a Godless nation – look at those who call themselves ‘Christian’ and are not (let’s start with Jeremiah Wright and Jim Wallis). The Christian faith is being infiltrated by false prophets. The trend is to throw God out of everything – out of the Pledge, out of cemeteries, out of speeches, out of sight. And the refusal to admit, in the overwhelming proof of our Founder’s history, that GOd is and always has been part of our country, is the slippery slope toward disaster.

      The United States of America is the last bastion of freedom in an ever-shrinking world. It’s oppressors are calling for it to become just another socialist sibling in the world family. And when the end comes for us, it will be the end for everyone. There will be no one left to speak up for freedom and faith.

      And THAT will bring about the beginning of the end. It might take a hundred years, or it might happen in 5. But the history of my faith, the Bible, is showing all the signs of it coming sooner than later. It also says, though, that only the Father knows the time, and I will not second-guess the Lord. I’ll just keep believing that whatever happens will be

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    • holy ghostbuster
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 12:56pm

      @ TPAINE – I find it very interesting that you chose to display a photo of Thomas Paine as well as use his name for your username. Were you aware that Paine despised religion, especially Christianity? You need to read Paine’s book, “The Age of Reason.” In it, he shreds religion and Christianity to pieces.

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    • 666Sucks
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 10:11am

      You said it, you all should read the book Eye to Eye – Facing the Consequences of Dividing Israel, he has chronicled some amazing disasters that occur within 48hrs of major anti-Israel political decisions, and it doesn’t even include the devastating damage Obama has done! I have seen the proof God exists, I’m paying attention, and even started going to church for the first time in my 50+ years!

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    • Juniemoon
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 1:02pm

      Many people use that scripture, but only the Jews are called by his name (Jew), or Israel. People should really read the bible through Jewish eyes, because it is a book written for Israel and the Jews. You should really stop thinking Jesus started the Catholic Church and replaced the Jews with Gentiles. How insane people can be, when God made a covenant with the children of Abraham and promised them the land over 300 times in the bible. He even raised his hand for this covenant, and to raise the hand is to swear by his word. I really wish many more people in America would ask God for revelation to what the scriptures really mean, and to start looking at their Hebrew roots and not false Christianity lies. We were grafted in to him, he was never grafted into us. And as far I can tell the heavens and earth have not passed away yet. So his Torah (law) should be our guide. Somethings do not apply today because there is no temple and there is no Bet Deim (Jewish court) to enforce all of the commandments such as slavery, adultery, etc. But an eye for an eye always has a place, that is equal compensation for mis deeds, not plucking out eyes or cutting off hands. Find a messianice congregation and listen to learn what you have been misguided about. Try El Shaddai Ministries. us for one. You will learn to love the Torah (word) as David Did.
      PS
      The Sabbath is on Saturday unless you think Constantine had more power than God to change his day. Foolish Americans.

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    • CamoJan
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 1:34pm

      Amen to that Ted. (2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land)

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  • Marylou7
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:13am

    Without Jesus I am nothing.

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  • SREGN
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:11am

    Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

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  • Darrell
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:00am

    Liberty is a product of knowledge and virtue. Knowledge (truth) and virtue (self-restraint) are products of religion. Religion is a belief in God. . . . We must strive to remember to who’s We are.

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    • proudfather2
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:44am

      Well said!!!!

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    • Matrhorn
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 3:30pm

      Religion: A system of beliefs held by a person or group

      Just have to say this, but being religious does not necessarily constitute a belief in God. Religion is whatever you believe whether it be in some god or gods, or whether it be atheism.

      Anyway, just had to say that…lol. But I do agree with the article here. England and much of Europe is pretty much screwed if less and less people believe in God. Belief in god(s) (real or not) helps to form and create morals. Without belief in a sumpreme being, we would have no reason to be moral. Thankfully, most Americans still be in God, and hopefully we will start trusting in Him and listening to His word more. B

      Another good point made is that England has a state sponsered religion and we don’t. When the state is defending a religion, it normally does not help the cause of that religion because now people are kinds forced into that religion and not necessarily voluntarily joining it.

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 8:55am

    Not trusting the true and living God dooms any nation. I can’t find the USA in the Bible and that says lots, unfortunately.

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    • WSGAC
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 12:12pm

      Strange, because I can’t find Argentina in the Bible either…or Canada, or Finland, or Camroon, or Mexico, or South Africa, or Iceland! I guess this means they’re all doomed too? Silly Americans always view the scriptures through the prism of their peculiar Amero-centrism.

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    • hi
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 12:38pm

      Actually the US is not involved in the Revelation. For now, we protect Israel, or protected it before Obama. Once we stop protecting Israel, that’s it for us.

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    • andredegas
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 12:25pm

      It’s not finding the USA in the Bible, it’s finding the Bible in the USA which counts. Our Constitution relies on man being a religious being.

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    • EL-LOBO
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 12:59pm

      Just because it doesnt say USA doesnt mean it isnt in there. You just dont know what your looking for. But we are in there my friend. Most of prophecy for end time is for The USA and Great Britian.

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    • MrBungle
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 1:36pm

      This could be because the writers of the bible had no idea the north american continent even existed.

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    • ICEDRAGONNITE
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 1:59pm

      .Great brittan = ephraim. U.S.A. = manasseh.

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    • jblaze
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 2:03pm

      TRONINTHEMORNING
      That is because you do not know history (most do not so you are in good company) read US and Britain in Prophecy (written over 50 years ago). http://www.thetrumpet.com/?page=book&b=44

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    • marjorie faye
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 3:12pm

      It wouldn’t be called the USA in the Bible. So how do you know it’s not there?

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    • jblaze
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 3:29pm

      marjorie faye

      http://www.thetrumpetdaily.com/program/20110706

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    • bellasbrat
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 3:46pm

      You can find the U.S. in the Bible, because at the time the Bible was written, there was no U.S. Can you find Australia in the Bible? How about Canada? South America?

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    • SovereignSoul
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 11:45pm

      bellasbrat
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 3:46pm
      You can find the U.S. in the Bible, because at the time the Bible was written, there was no U.S. Can you find Australia in the Bible? How about Canada? South America?

      If the bible God’s word and God is all-knowing, wouldn’t he have included U.S.A. in his word so we mortals wouldn’t be confused?

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    • kbnoswag
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 4:54pm

      Probably beacuse the US was not around when the Bible was written. It was 100% Natives.

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    • sebastian-linus
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 6:35pm

      The US is Manasseh and Britain is Ephraim and with the blessings of those two tribes, also come all the curses when they turn their backs on God. This explains why we are friends of the Jews (tribe of Judah).

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    • Mary M. Tebbe
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 3:56pm

      troninthemorning: Psalm 33: 4 – 12 reads: For the word of the Lord is right and true; he is faithful in all he does. The Lord loves righteousness and justice; the earth is full of his unfailing love. By the word of the Lord were the heavens made, their starry host by the breath of his mouth. He gathers the waters of the sea into jars; he puts the deep into storehouses. Let all the earth fear the Lord; let all the people of THE WORLD REVERE HIM. For he spoke, and it came to be; he commanded, and it stood firm. The Lord foils the plans of the nations; he thwarts the purposes of the peoples. But the plans of the Lord stand firm FOREVER, the purposes of his heart through all generations. BLESSED IS THE NATION WHOSE GOD IS THE LORD, the people he chose for HIS INHERITANCE (see 2 Samuel 7: 23 – 24 to find the people, the nation, that He chose for His inheritance FOREVER).
      The USA is indeed mentioned in Scripture. You find us under the mention of our FOREFATHER JOSEPH in Genesis 48 and 49, and in Deuteronomy 33: 13 – 17 under Joseph’s blessing. We would become THE GREATEST SINGLE NATION ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. We are East Manasseh the man-of-war and West Manasseh the agriculturist. I write about it a lot on theblaze. You can find it in google under the writings of Mary M. Tebbe on theblaze. History was erased and distorted; that is why you cannot understand who we are and whose we are.

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    • TangoBravo
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 7:11pm

      The USA is in the Bible, (Numbers 14:8) it’s called the land of milk & honey. Whether we can keep this great land of milk & honey as such is yet to be determined.

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    • heferwiz57
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 10:58pm

      TR–The Us is in the Bible…Revelations 18

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  • NickDeringer
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 8:52am

    Yes.

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    • rc30
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 12:13am

      What right does anyone have to tell you what to be leave. I hate this crap. If you want a Jeses in your yard so what. I hate how we try to make everyone happy. Taking god out of everthing is just stupid. If you don’t like it turn your head. This is a free country. But if we keep trying to tell people what they can and can’t do is down right wrong here in the USA We loose freedoms all the time. This needs to stop.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 8:51am

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    It’s Damn near Doomed us……………..

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    • Wayner
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:24am

      Spankdemonkey your are damned. And why do I say that? Because if you feel no remorse for your denying God and Jesus Christ, that is an indication that The Holy Spirit has ceased to draw you and that my lost friend is the unpardonable sin.

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    • jtm
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:41am

      While I don’t agree withspankdamonkey, you sound like most fundamentalists I know, pontificating who is bound for heaven and hell.

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    • SpankDaMonkey
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 10:02am

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      @Wayner
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:24am
      Spankdemonkey your are damned. And why do I say that? Because if you feel no remorse for your denying God and Jesus Christ, that is an indication that The Holy Spirit has ceased to draw you and that my lost friend is the unpardonable sin.

      Did you even read what I posted?
      SpankDaMonkey
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 8:51am
      .
      It’s Damn near Doomed us……………..

      Where did I deny my God? You need to put the Golden Calf down my friend………..

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    • Spqr1
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 2:09pm

      Whether or not someone is damned is not your decision, that‘s God’s call…

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    • Meyvn
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 7:34am

      Agreed… and it may well be our story also.

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  • nomercy63
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 8:50am

    Oh! Stop the British are the same as Americans when it comes to religion!!!!

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    • Rickfromillinois
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:16am

      Really? What study do you have to back your statement? Like they say in the article, 92% of Americans believe that there is a God while in Britain only 35% do. Seems like there is a big difference to me.

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    • freeus
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:44am

      Not at all. They are a bunch of Progressive Secularists. The only religion they tolerate is Islam, out of fear.

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    • semihardrock
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 10:30am

      ONCE AGAIN ur wrong! England does have a growing religion as the number (1) baby name last year was Mohammed!

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    • STAND4TRUTH
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 10:59am

      NOMERCY63/RICKFROMILLINOIS/DISSENTNOW –

      I visited England in 2003 on a missionary trip (a first for my church and a response to 9/11) to learn about Islam/Muslims (from an underground group who specializes in this) so I could speak to them about Jesus and that the Gospel is for everyone. Interestingly, I found that I had more in common with the Muslims in England/here (1 in 8 people in London are Muslim) as they agreed that Jesus was special and that there is only one God – in contrast, the people who acted surprised were the native Britons who couldn’t believe my faith in the God of the Bible because we Americans were to be a “progressive nation”. Consistently, while we engaged people on the street or door-to-door, once native Britons knew our beliefs – they would simply mock us openly.

      I pray for the UK and Europe as a whole, as the Reformation sprung from there and sent missionaries everywhere – spreading the Good News. The big and beautiful church we stayed at (large estate worth $7 million) had only 19 parishioners (mostly very young and very old) as we learned that the older generations simply did not pass down the faith to the next generation well (JUDGES 2:10-15). How sad it is to see such another devastating plague strike Europe but with eternal consequences.

      Here’s a well-put blog post on the decline of Europe of which he footnotes his sources – http://discipleshipjournal-buddy.blogspot.com/2010/08/decline-of-european-christianity.html

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    • angelcat
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 1:46pm

      Do you live there? Have you interviewed thousands of Brits? If not, how would you know?

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    • king1
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 3:16pm

      you saw the numbers there not talking about the few that you know there talking about the total poplulation thats what the progressives are planing here.

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    • n2woods
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 6:01pm

      Are you kidding me??

      England has never been like America, ever. It was over freedom of religion that British citizens left their former homeland to come to the New World.

      How can you even post that?

      Americans and the British used to be Christian nations, but obviously things have changed. The facts Boteach used are facts that underscore our differences once again. We are still different in our beliefs, that does not take away from our common heritage.

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    • magnoliajane
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:23pm

      He just stated the facts, and you’re going to argue? Based on what?

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    • docmd
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 3:46pm

      NOMERCY63 : I disagree UK has become increasingly more GODless AND that is why they will be overtaken by the muslims . It will become a muslim country soon !

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on July 6, 2011 at 8:50am

    England may not be doomed of necessity, it has indeed entered a religious dark ages.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:07am

      What mkaes a country? The citizenry .
      A citizenry of godlessness entitlement sand self indulgence creates a government of godlessness,entitlements and self indulgence.
      A citizenry of the moral and charitable creates a government of morality and charitability.
      People in England need not blame parliment or any other government agency as they created it.

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    • pavepaws
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 2:53pm

      smithclar3nc3 I like it………..

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    • tbl10
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 12:58am

      So true, yet look what is happening in America. Society is trying to take God out of everything. This country is not far behind England. One day we will wake up and be a Sharia compliant nation.

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    • Loki
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:51am

      The Age of Atheist isnt dooming the UK.
      Its the Muslim invasion of the Isle that is dooming the UK.
      Native british citizens are being out out-bred (native being those that accept the british form of government, and believe in the english way) by theocratic muslims that look at the UK as just another part of their caliphate.
      The only factor involving athiesm is, they trust noboy of a faith….hang together or we will surely hang apart….

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    • snidley-whiplash
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 9:56am

      Sorry to say, but once faced with the sword they will either pay the ransoms become slaves or profess there is no god but allah. They are doomed!

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 10:24am

      Jerusalem Post …clearly a major source. Thanks for searching out this critical, non opinionated reports.

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    • king1
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 3:22pm

      I guess you didn’t read it was an opinion page duh for being so smart you sure are stupid

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    • drattastic
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 10:33am

      You can bet Europe & the UK will have religion in the future it’ll just be Islam. Break out your prayer rugs fools.

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    • imreddog
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 10:55am

      For those who believe in the Bible and that we are nearing the “time of the end”, this should not come as a surprise.
      II Th 2:1-3
      1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
      2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
      3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
      (KJV)

      The falling away is well underway. All that is left is for the anti-Christ to be revealled… and no, it isn’t Prince whats-his-name.

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    • ZOMBIE JESUS LOVES ME
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 11:12am

      LOL!

      Religion = Dark Ages

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    • capitalismrocks
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 11:46am

      Britain faces the bigger problem that while it sheds in Christian faith more and more, the Muslims are increasing theirs and literally turning England into a new Muslim state…. one with a formidable nuclear arsenal…. idiot Islam with nuclear weapons…. worst combination possible!

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 1:44pm

      Blame the problem on the muslim take over of the UK!

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    • BlazingPatriot
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 4:13pm

      “Startingly, 43 percent of Britons claim that they have no religion at all.”

      Perfectly ripe for Islam which is slowly creeping in and converting the Brits by the 10′s of thousands each year!

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    • Bear
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 4:17pm

      Atheism,Christianity,Muslim,,,,,,you name it,,,which ever chooses to use Socialism destroys their Country,,not Atheism! I am an Atheist but I believe in small Government,low taxes,the right to bear arms and the freedom to believe what you want,even if that means a God,knock yourself out,,and most of all human dignity! That is not owned by the Religious in any way,,,,ask the Salem, Mass. citizens burned as witches if their human dignity was up held or slaughtered by the Religious? Don’t blame Atheism for Rotten Governments and Dark ages,,blame what ever ideology embraces Socialism or the enslavement of man!

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    • Bear
      Posted on July 6, 2011 at 4:20pm

      My bad,,,,,the citizens of Salem were not burned,,,they were hanged to death,,,one killed then crushed under stones!

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