Has the Earth Come Close to Ending in Recent Centuries?
- Posted on October 21, 2011 at 12:00am by
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Harold Camping still predicting the end of the world will come tomorrow, Oct. 21, after an obviously failed prediction of May 21 earlier this year. This year’s Ig Nobel award in mathematics went to the many doomsdayers who have incorrectly predicted the end of the world.
With all these people deemed as crazies who predict the end of the world each decade, it begs the question, has it ever come close? Has the world ever come close in recent history to actually ending? According to a report that reanalyzed an astronomer’s data, it has.
Technology Review (via Gizmodo) reports that on August 12 and 13 in 1883 José Bonilla in Zacatecas in Mexico recorded about 450 objects flying past the Sun over two days for a total of 3.5 hours. This means that more than 3,000 pieces were probably whizzing by during the time he wasn’t watching. At the time, his observations were written off as insects or dust, but recent reanalysis reveals another theory. Technology Review continues:
Hector Manterola at the National Autonomous University of Mexico in Mexico City, and a couple of pals, give a different interpretation. They think that Bonilla must have been seeing fragments of a comet that had recently broken up. This explains the ‘misty’ appearance of the pieces and why they were so close together.
But there’s much more that Manterola and co have deduced. They point out that nobody else on the planet seems to have seen this comet passing in front of the Sun, even though the nearest observatories in those days were just a few hundred kilometers away.
That can be explained using parallax. If the fragments were close to Earth, parallax would have ensured that they would not have been in line with the Sun even for observers nearby. And since Mexico is at the same latitude as the Sahara, northern India and south-east Asia, it’s not hard to imagine that nobody else was looking.
This photograph is one of Jose Bonilla's observations. At the time, the objects he recorded passing in front of the sun were said to be dust, insects in front of his telescope, and even the first UFOs. (Photo: Jose Bonilla)
Manterola and his team predict that the main comet contributing to this debris was more than 1 billion tons and it and its fragments are estimated to have passed within a few hundred miles of Earth. Technology Review continues:
Each fragment was at least as big as the one thought to have hit Tunguska. Manterola and co end with this: “So if they had collided with Earth we would have had 3,275 Tunguska events in two days, probably an extinction event.”
The Tunguska impact refers to an asteroid that hit Siberia in 1908. According to NASA, the blast affected 800 square miles and felled 80 million trees.
Photograph taken after Tunguska comet decimated Siberian landscape. (Photo: NASA)
Luckily, NASA’s space telescope was recently reported as finding fewer asteroids near Earth than previously thought. In 1998, NASA was tasked with identifying at least 90 percent of the asteroids near Earth, a feat which they have now accomplished.
“The risk of a really large asteroid impacting the Earth before we could find and warn of it has been substantially reduced,” Tim Spahr, the director of the Minor Planet Center at the Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Mass., said in the release.
Even still Earth did have a relatively close encounter with an asteroid. The Huffington Post reported in June of this year that “2011 MD” flew closer to Earth than the moon. But never fear, NASA is working on a plan to prepare for the day when an asteroid comes hurdling toward Earth. NASA plans to begin asteroid research, using NOAA’s underwater laboratory to simulate weightlessness. This research was set to begin this month but got delayed due to stormy seas.
Something should be entering Earth’s atmosphere this weekend though. The German Aerospace Center’s retired satellite, ROSAT, should be falling back to Earth sometime between Friday and Monday. Much of the minivan-sized ROSAT will burn up during re-entry but up to 30 fragments weighing a total of 1.87 tons could crash into the Earth, center spokesman Andreas Schuetz told The Associated Press.
Rendering of ROSAT satellite. (Image: German Aerospace Center via Popular Science)
“All countries around the globe between 53-degrees north and 53-degrees south could possibly be affected,” Schuetz said Wednesday – a vast swath of territory that includes much of the earth outside the poles.
But, this satellite won’t cause life on Earth to end. We’ll have to wait and see what comes Friday regarding Campings prediction.
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AmericanStrega
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:12amOne thing’s for certain, if the world does end, whatever date, none of us here are going to be posting our reactions. If it happens, it happens. Nothing you, me, or the lamppost can do about it. Live your lives as happily as you can. You never know when a bus, or an astroid the size of a bus, is going to take you out.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 5:18pmWell you have to ask yourself: is it in the interest of God to end the earth? If God ends the earth, then wouldn’t the amount of time take even that much longer for God to form Obi Wan Kenobi type people out of the dust of the earth?
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 5:35pmAnd you have to ask yourself is it in the interest of God to end the human race? And then you have to ask yourself is there anything new under the sun? Or how about other solar system’s suns?
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 7:32pmMaybe UFO’s protect the earth for God. Could it be so?
Report Post »bankerpapaw
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:04am“Something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into
Report Post »blood, a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.”
Revelation 8:8-9 Be ready!!
Eliasim
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 7:10pmOh, you mean like a huge Mountain like a burning bush? Only a bush is small and it wouldn’t have much affect if I was to throw a burning bush into the sea. Haha. Even after hundreds of years you people hear it with an action packed- want to end the world kind of heart. Really it’s because you are miserable, but you want everyone else to go down with you. You can’t stand the idea of going down alone. If you actually read the Bible besides Revelation or a few chosen scriptures then you would find that a “Mountain” is a spiritual phrase for a large spiritual mass, and you would find that a ship is a smaller group of people with the same spiritual beliefs, and you would find that the sea is all or many millions of people combined together.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 7:14pmAnd do you know why a large burning mountain is thrown into the sea of waters? Because your womb is bearing no fruit, and your paps are not giving suck. Translation: because your ships are bearing no fruit, and your small hills are bearing no suck for God.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 7:28pmAnd that’s the thing Jesus showed the blind “Hearted” man when Jesus spat in the soil and twirled it into clay. Does it make sense that your Father would commit sorcery to battle sorcery? No, because you would surely die in spirit, when you don’t know for sure how the Father came to be by what process.
Report Post »Greenwood
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 2:13pmDaniel 2:45 …….out of the mountain a stone was cut not by hands, and that it crushed the iron, the copper, the molded clay, the silver and the gold. The God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin.
Report Post »The image explained in Daniel 2:31-45
Krutch
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:51amWhat time do we check out today? Finally, I’ll get to sleep in tomorrow!
Report Post »As a plus, the OWS crowd won’t be getting into my wallet.
Walkabout
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:13amNice!
Report Post »vtxphantom
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 1:54pmIf we are going to get hit without warning it will come from the direction of the sun. I have my lawn chair and six pack ready to go. I may even snap a few pictures of our demise. Make the best of it.
Report Post »Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:47amThe World has come much closer to ending in the face of Iran/calipha/Korea and other rogue maniacs in recent YEARS. The 12th Imam is the anti-christ and a belief that he is here and he is the path to paradise in a fiery aftermath leads the way. Obama is the enabler here.. Do the math.,
Report Post »caveman74
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:19amRead genesis. in the beginning god heavens and earth(without form) then light (explosion) then firmament (elements of matter and gas) and then lights in the heavens (stars) This one is important “God said let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life and fowl that may fly above the earth and god created every living creature shich the waters brought forth abundantly. You non believers bash the bible but isn’t it interesting how this ancient library of books accurately describes god using the “big bang theory” to create the universe, and then spells out bringing life forth first from the waters to develope into other creatures. That leaves you bible bashers with a big problem. Either god exists and used science to create everything or your own science is based directly on our supposed “fairy tale” faith. Core samples show that there was no rain on earth until an event placed debris in the atmosphere rain clouds formed and it rained for months if not years causing widespread flooding (sounds like a bible story) The bible talks of great creatures with legs as tree trunks (sounds like dinosaurs). Science and faith run congruent to each other not parallel.
Report Post »mtorres20
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:04amExistinction is real possibility. We have been unusally lucky and the universe is one dangerous accident waiting to happen.
Report Post »Todd P
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:29amI see the trolls are out in force today. Full moon?
Report Post »joei234
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:23amOff topic, but I’m listening to Glenn on the radio and he is really sounding crazier than ever. This OWS movement was started by a bunch of young people via Facebook. They want money out of political campaigns and corporations to stop bulldozing over the wishes of the people (you and me) via their lobbyists and political donations. Face it, it‘s just what Ross Perot was talking about in 1990’s and its time has come. But Beck is trying to make the case that the commies and SIEU and all the lib groups are behind it. They’re trying to steal it, but they are NOT the real force behind the OWS movement. Beck also wants everyone to “FEAR GOD” which is batcrap crazy, but that’s another story. Beck is truly getting caught up in his own self-made web of paranoia and delusion and somebody in his inner circle better take action before it’s too late. The guy is ill.
Report Post »CoffeeMan777
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:39amJOEI234,
Crazy is a matter of perspective. Psalm 14:1 says, “The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”"
Report Post »I hunk denying Gods existence despite all evidence to the contrary makes a man either crazy or stupid. Which one are you?
BetterDays
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:40am@Joe
Report Post »Psssst, the unions, the DSA, the socialists, anarchists, community organizers, SEIU are all part and parcel in the FAUX OWS protest. We here at the blaze have seen Obamas ( Leftists ) plans from inception, thanks to Glenn and the hard work of his dedicated staff. Sorry no one told you.
Oh, it seems the NYC OWS has switched from cop cars to door stoops as restroom facilities. That’s some high quality people your defending there Joe, real classy! 99%, no, more like 10% of the 19% of Americans who are stupid eneough to belive socialism is a viable alternative, we call that group liberals when were being real polite. Furthermore, Joe, your ilk in NO WAY represents me, or how I feel about the USURY rich like Imelt of GE, Bwarny Fwank, Nancy ” I’m fancy” Piglosi, or the O’Frauda in chief. Classless acts one and all.
Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:52amJoe,
You are the crazy one if you believe this was some spontaneous event, organized by Facbookers. The facebookers are the tools.
Long before there were sandals on the ground on Wall Street, SEIU was organizing it.
Report Post »Dougral Supports Israel
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:54amIf the protests aren’t coordinated then how did they pull off their Oct 15th global event in so many places? Facebook isn’t going to cut it for that. Also Van Jones said there would be an “answer to the Tea Party protests” and lo and behold, these pop up. Finally, way back in March, Glenn posted a video of Stephen Lerner (SEIU) saying the banks would be targeted with protests. All coincidence?
Report Post »joei234
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:15amCoffeeman, there is NO scientific eveidence zero zip nada of the existence of any god,. Face it. and embrace it. It is a fact.
Report Post »joei234
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:22amAnyone who thinks that insulting lib dems and leftist trash is a way to insuly me is sadly mistaken LOLOL. I’m a libertarian and I know how wrong the left and their simplistic, unworkable ideas are. That being said, I personally know a large number of people who are extremely angry with the socialist treatment the big banks and the rest received to bail them out from their bad gambles and they are the people spearheading a number of these protests across the country. They also resent the Dems, libs, commies and marxists who are trying to hog the movement and the effort. So it’s not all black and white like that delusional freak Glenn Beck is trying to sell you head bobbers. Beck’s lack of intellectual depth and intelligence is staggering, and if you under educated hayseeds take him as gospel, you’re screwing yourselfves and your families. Smarten up for crissakes.
Report Post »CoffeeMan777
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 12:16pmJOEI234,
You are mistaken, sir. There’s loads of evidence for anyone willing to look for it. A man with his eyes closed can’t see anything.
Romans 1:20, “For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities–his eternal power and divine nature–have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.”
“In science there is a Law of Physics called the 1st Law of Thermodynamics. Within it is a Conservation of Energy Law that states, as a key principle that all energy in a closed system must be conserved. Okay, fancy language, but what does that mean? It means that while energy can convert into matter (physical “stuff”), and matter into energy, however much total “stuff” there is (matter and energy), there can never be an increase in that total amount or a decrease in that total amount. So however much total “stuff” there is in the universe, (matter and energy combined), there can never have been more and never have been less. All it can do is convert to different forms, like matter to energy or energy to matter,
Report Post »CoffeeMan777
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 12:21pm“…but the total amount of all of it has to remain the same. The “closed system” is a scientific term that refers to a system or an “area” that has no outside influence, like the universe. Now, as believers we know, of course, that God does influence the universe, so many believers would consider the universe an “open system”, (one that does get outside influence), but for the atheist who says there is no God, the universe is all there is, so from their perspective and for the sake of conventional science, the universe would get no outside influence and would therefore be considered a “closed system”. Back to the 1st Law of Thermodynamics. If it states that you can never have an increase or decrease of energy/matter, which means that matter/energy can not be created from nothingness, how did we get all the matter and energy in the universe?
If science is all there is and there is no God, then the 1st Law of Thermodynamics reigns supreme and therefore it would be impossible to have matter and energy in existence right now. Simply put, when you open your eyes and see matter and experience energy, what you see is impossible according to the known Laws of science if, in fact, there is no God. Therefore, -science itself- says there must be a God.”
Report Post »joei234
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 4:41pmCoffeeman, your argument has no scientific merit. Try again.
Report Post »joei234
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 4:55pmThe universe came from a condensed state of energy that contained all of the matter and energy of the universe – until it exploded billions of years ago. We’ve even got pictures of the explosion. For anyone who believes that the universe is *organized, then you might want to take a look at this image of the cosmic background radiation and tell me where the “organization” is in the picture: http://laps.noaa.gov/albers/sos/universe/wmap/wmap_rgb_cyl_www.jpg
Report Post »filiusdracul
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 12:38am@joe1234: No one can prove God’s existence to you but you can find plenty of irrefutable proof for yourself. Don’t insult people who have actually put effort into this and found him. If the universe is so chaotic, how is it that you exist?
Report Post »CoffeeMan777
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 9:35amJOEI234,
I like how you try to dismiss my argument by denying its merit, without bothering to explain your position, and then go on to make a statement that doesn’t counter my point at all. That’s cute, really.
Your picture does not prove the obvious order around us as nonexistent, either. Really I’m not sure what you intended to do with that answer. In fact, it would have been better for your position if you hadn’t responded to me at all. My point remains.
I’ll pray for you.
Report Post »Greenwood
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 10:17amJoe…………It seems you have flipped your way of thinking from that of the past. What’s up with that?
Report Post »joei234
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 12:23pmCoffeeman, what’s “cute” is the childlike willingness to swallow myths as fact just because you were told to. What’s more, if there was such a thing as a supreme singular entity, it wouldn’t be so shallow and easily offended as to torture any of its created creatures for any reason at all, especially not one involving vanity. The Christian narrative is nonsensical (aside from most of its behavioral teacheings) and lacks logic and truth. It is glaringly obvious that it was created by bronze-aged people who simply didn’t know any better. We do now and religion just doesn’t hold up any longer. If you want to ignore reality and close your mind to science and reason and wrap yourself in your false beliefs, that’s your choice. It’s rude to lay the burden of your faith on others though. And your snarky comment “I’ll pray for you” meant as a dig, is predictable, sad and pathetic. So how about all the other religions that claim yours is the wrong one? Even the Jews think Christians are wrong. There are no gods and the story of Jesus is a retread of many other myths that proceeded it.
Report Post »Maxim Crux
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 8:42amThe Tunguska event is a theory as to what happened. They have not found any proof that it was anything from space that caused it.
Report Post »sum1has2
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 6:30pmHow true! My favorite theory is that Tesla accidently caused it. This seems much more likely if you look into the details of the incident.
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 8:21amOf course it has and it’s not from outside reasons, how about the unstable nuclear programs that are going on across the world. Just out is that N. Korea is pushing their nuclear program again and it is getting bad… and yet their people are dying of starvation and we are bailing them out: http://www.americanparchment.com/video/2011/oct/nkorea_secret_nuclear.html
Report Post »lel2007
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 7:59amThe World will end when God chooses to make it so.
Report Post »Libby Tarian
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:09amI do not see where the planet earth ends at all nor the “ end of the world ”, it is not in the Scriptures. But I do see Zechariah 14 among other scriptures where YHWH will come down and Isaiah says that the torah (instructions) will be taught from mount Zion.
Report Post »DanWesson455
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:23amToo bad he didn’t do it about 3000 years ago. He knows it was going to turn out like this. He must be holding his side hurting from laughter knowing most aren’t making it to his glory.
Report Post »joei234
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:42amThere’s no such thing as god. The very idea that one single entity created everything is primitive and silly. It’s hard to believe that people still cling to that ancient “flat earth” idea.
Report Post »Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:55amWow joe, I think you are int he beginning stages of being a troll…….you kinda s_ck at it.
Report Post »joei234
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:49amBallotbox, don‘t call names just because you don’t agree with someone.
it’s childish.
Report Post »rfycom
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 7:56amOh my God we have the government watching for these things. Can’t private enterprise watch for them and watch better?
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 8:36amHave the orderlies unlock your door. Lead you outside. Look Up.
There you go , Skippy
Now your life is worthwhile.
PS Bring a notebook ,write down everything that wizzes by, and update us
Report Post »Thanks , 13th
ares338
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 7:54amWhat? me worry? Wow, people are irritable this morning! Chill out and enjoy life while you have it.
Report Post »Libby Tarian
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 7:32amHarold has posted a notice (j/k) on his website that the End of the World had to be postponed until further notice, Send Money.
Report Post »Sicialian Eyeball
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 7:17amIt really started on election day 2008.
Report Post »JACKTHETOAD
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 6:01amNo doubt all of the muslim ‘rocket scientists’ that Obama is reaching out to will lend their expertise to this project. They can’t work during eclipses, though, as most of them hide until it’s over. If they see an object coming, their plan is to fire RPG’s at it and call it filthy names. Poor NASA, R.I.P.
Report Post »leto
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 5:17amA map of confirmed Meteor Impacts for North America: http://www.uptimedatabase.com/mapMeteors.cshtml
You can adjust the magnification as well as view the previous zombie survivability map that was such a hit last month on TheBlaze.
Report Post »garyM
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 5:12amIf you want a general description of what this end time event will be like, you can read it at http://www.biblegateway.com or find a copy of the Holy Bible in hardback of soft cover. NASA‘s finite minds and great human knowledge doesn’t even come up anywhere close to high enough to compare to the wisdom and knowledge of the ONE who created everything and is in control of everything! When that will be, NO MAN KNOWS!
Report Post »Libby Tarian
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 7:35amI can read it in my own bible. Zechariah 14 the whole chapter.
Report Post »joei234
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 8:22amSpeaking of finite minds – how about the finite bronze age minds that wrote all the little stories that were cobbled together and sold as the word of god? Yes, I’m talking about your Bible. The words of men (not even women!) – certainly not the work of some invisible all powerful entity.
Report Post »Sugabee
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 8:28amJoe,
Report Post »Why must you be so nasty and intolerant? Is he not allowed to believe what he wants and express it without condemnation? Let peace reign in everyone’s hearts.
Discord
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:51amJoe is absolutely right though.
Report Post »Arc
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 4:58amI can’t wait!!!!!
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 4:03amNot close enough… there are still Liberals here.
And yeah, what came close to ending was not “the Earth”. What may have come close to ending was “humanity”, maybe even “all life on Earth”. The Earth will meet its end as a burnt out cinder floating in space after our Sun goes into its death throes as a red giant and then recedes into its final dwarf stage. We’ll be long gone by then, either as galactic colonists or as an infant race that died in our crib, but the Earth, such as it is, will remain.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 6:10amWhere you get these fairy tales… Red Giants, White Dwarfs, Darkwing Duck (Or maybe it was Dark Matter?)
You’ve seen the transformation you speak about happening, right? Or do you repeat someone’s conjecture?
Everyone knows that Helios refers to Sun and Kronos to Saturn. But in the most ancient Greek literary fragments, Helios refers to Saturn (archaic copies of Plato’s Timaeus). Do you think it’s odd?
Report Post »bread and circuses
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 7:10am@TWOBYFOUR
Are you the president of the flat earth society ?
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 8:00am2×4 IS the flat earth society.
Report Post »joei234
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 8:24am2×4, you ignorant people that refuse to understand science are a hoot! lolol Really.
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:04am@ Two By Four:
Report Post »Our sun is a Main Sequence star. Go ask an astrophysicist how all Main Sequence stars without sufficient mass to go nova will meet their end.
Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:08am@ Two By Four:
Report Post »For me to try to explain the death of a star to you using scientific terms like radiation pressure, roche lobe, and fusion cycle, would just confuse you more than you obviously already are.
Twobyfour
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 12:37pmFunny, from my viewpoint, y’all that replied are flat earthers.
LPHP, For your mythology, I offered another.
Do you know what epistemology is?
You’re all forgetting that all science can do is to create tentative models of reality.The current consensus is tomorrow’s falsified ignorant fairy tale. But yea, it’s comforting to “know” how things work, or rather with what the current paradigm’s claim is. The authoritative LPHP’s tone is charming.
So, how does the current cosmological model stand? Try to googling “scientists puzzled” or “astrophysicists puzzled”. The pesky reality does not want to follow the models.
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 8:50pmI’m intimately familiar with epistemology. Three ways how we know what we know. We can know something by experimentation, cogitation, and revelation, or do it, think it, and told it.
The strongest way of knowing is experimentation. A little weaker is cogitation. And the weakest form of knowledge is revelation. Religion only has revelation, and cogitation that borders on brain washing. Science has all three, but actually promotes experimentation, which religion all but forbids.
And yeah, all scientific truth is provisional, until a new, better truth supplants the old. Which is the anathema of religion, which claims to be the truth then, now, and for all time, unchanging. Science has the capability of explaining new things in the future. Religion is forever stuck in the past.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 3:06pmVery well, then you do know… Thus you’d be well advised to use provisional form of statements when presenting scientific theories in part or in whole.
As for religion, it’s purpose is to explain things that are outside of the constricture of science. Things intangible that can‘t be explained or that can’t be quantified by science, and to provide the general rules of conduct. In the past, it also functioned as a basic explanation of the world the ancients lived in.
I am agnostic, BTW.
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 10:38pmAs I said, epistemology is how we know what we know, and all scientific knowledge is provisional. However, while we know it, we call it the truth. Presumably, you would only have me use absolute terms for religious truth, since it holds itself out to be absolute and universal. However, as I described, science relies on the strongest forms of knowledge for its truths, while religion relies on the weakest forms. It’s one of the defining traits that distinguish science from religion.
Why, in all the world, would I grant the weakest form of knowledge an absolutist description, while relegating the stronger forms of knowledge to a provisional description?
I find it very strange indeed that you would claim the mantle of agnostic and acknowledge the quantifiability of science when your first response to me was to call the quantifications of science a fairy tale, and later mythology. Fairy tales and mythology are what the rabid Religious Right and Evangelicals call science. Of course, they would be the experts on fairy tales and mythology.
Edify thyself. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Stellar_evolution
And then spend at least half the time I have with your face pressed to a cold telescopic eyepiece in an observatory under night skies.
Report Post »Liberal Basher
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 2:35amThe Earth has been here for 4.5 billion years. It isn’t going to “end” any time soon. Mass extinctions have occurred on Earth many times and its given evolution a new direction every time. We are here because of the extinction event that wiped out the dinosaurs.I know you Jesus freaks hate when we talk about the facts of evolution but facts don’t change to suit your religious mental disorders.
If you’re going to post comments on scientific stories stick to science and leave your bibles out of it.
Report Post »TheMediaWolf
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 2:47amYou just psychologically neutered yourself
Report Post »lcovar
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 3:03amYou do not hold the truth either. This is only what you think you know. Science is being wrong many times and will continue to be wrong just like you. No one knows what is next.
Report Post »1ONE1
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 4:47amThere are no facts about evolution. It is a theory and a stupid one at that. The Earth has gone through many extinction level disasters in the past, and many species have gone extinct. If another extinction level disaster were to happen, and a small pocket of black bears managed to survive and carry on the species but every other species of bear had been killed off what do you think the future survivors of mankind would think when the dig up the skeletal remains of a grizzly bear after a few thousand years? “Oh it must be an early form of black bear before what they evolved into what they are today!”
Extinction is fact. We see it happening today before our eyes. Evolution is BS.
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 5:42am“Facts” of evolution…LOLOLOL
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 6:08amFact – Evolution is a religious cult. It is a whacky, unfounded set of beliefs based on zero supporting facts or evidence. The evidence of God is everywhere. Nothing in the Bible has ever, yes ever, been disproven. The Bible is chock full of scientific statements, proven to be correct millenia later in our generation, and none ow which have ever been disproven. The Levitical laws regarding health and sanitiation, practiced through the millenia by observant Jews, kept them healthy through plagues and disease outbreaks, to an extent that even modern, scientifically-based medicine can’t match. Evolutionism is a fraud. God rules. It’s a scientific fact … the proof is in the evidence … of which there is zero that supports evolution.
Report Post »Tronix
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 6:10amStatistics are ok?…let’s see: You have a possibility of 50% that the heaven and Jesus are both real. When you are making a bet on a negative outcome (Heaven is not real), 50% is not high enough. You don´t feel so confident with your bet. When you are making a bet on a positive outcome (Heaven is real), 50% is not so high, but it helps enough.
After death, if there is nothing there, we didn´t lose anything (I mean those who believe in Jesus). We never had it, so we didn´t lose anything. We just die. But if there is a heaven and Jesus is waiting for us after death, you are losing an eternity of life and joy (I mean those who don´t believe in Jesus).
With those numbers and possible outcomes, what do you think would be the smartest bet?
Plus: When you have a Jesus in your life, you live in a different way, and it is just better.
Report Post »joei234
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 8:25amWell said liberal basher. Science is science and hocus pocus is religion.
Report Post »TxSon
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 8:35amWhat always amuses me about you evolution deniers is overwhelming evidence all around us that genetic modification is real. Evolution is nothing more than genetic modification occuring over very long periods of time. Does it not make more sense to see genetic modification as a part of God’s plan rather than denying its existance?
Report Post »Discord
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:03amExactly.
Report Post »Creationists baffle, amuse and depress me to no end.
Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:03amscience is never wrong huh?
I love Einstein, he is one of my favorite people, but he was just proven wrong a few weeks ago.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:17amYou do not understand what science is. It’s our current knowledge, and it adjusts its views based on new observations.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:18amSomehow people seem to always mistake it for faith, which denies observation to suit its own views.
Report Post »CONSERVATIVE SUMMER
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 12:45pm@ Liberal Basher
“we talk about the facts of evolution”
Really? Is that why it’s called the Thoery of Evolution?
Report Post »You can call me a Jesus Freak and tell me I have a mental disorder all you want and I will still pray for you! By the sound of your vim and vigor though, I forsee us not being neighbors in heaven! I feel sorry for you! I hope you enjoy sitting in fire!
joei234
Posted on October 23, 2011 at 11:02amSheepdog, god doesn’t exist and never has. The concept was created by ancient men (not even women). God is an idea much like leprachauns and fairies. The word is spreading finally – religion and the supernatural is a crock.
Report Post »ZengaPA65
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 1:36amThe world is ending again? Wake me up when it’s over.
Report Post »loadingmyclips
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:23amat least I won’t be alone!
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 12:45amWell nasa does plan on landing on an asteroid. http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/may/07/starsgalaxiesandplanets.spaceexploration
Bruce Willis will be the project manager, no doubt.
Report Post »ArgumentumAdAbsurdum
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 3:56amAs long as Steve Buscemi is somehow involved it sounds good to me
Report Post »Johnny916
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 12:24amI guess it’s true! Some men just want to watch the world burn!
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 12:14amC’mon Blaze, you are supposed to be better than this.
Report Post »mrbuff1959
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 1:57amYou might have adifferent view of this post if you or your grandfather were in tunguska. That distruction was caused by a object smaller than a vw bug.
Report Post »joei234
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:08amThe Blaze crew knows that religious/end times crap stories get their hit count up, so you can expect more of these stories to help keep Glennyboy’s leaking ship afloat.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:52amExactly, Joe.
Report Post »I’m really surprised there are not more people here insisting that the world will end on October 21st.
I always thought the Blaze readers were into that sort of thing.
Walkabout
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:21amjoei234
I don’t think that Revelations is part of RCC teaching. Doesn’t matter anyway. Just go to a local university. Some geology professor will have a poster showing the asteroids that have hit earth with their size. It makes a nice stem & leaf graph. It is also correlated with evolution showing extinctions. So from a purely scientific standpoint, I am interested.
If you ever visited Arizona You need to see the “Arizona Meteor Park”, Barringer Crater.
http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/featured/10-greatest-major-impact-craters-on-earth/1403?image=1
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