Science

Updated – The Super-Collider & The ‘God Particle’ Explained

The LHC (the Large Hadron Collider) may have accomplished one of its major goals.

The geek blogosphere is ablaze with rumors that scientists at the 17 mile, underground supercollider busily smashing atoms, may have seen evidence that the Higgs exists!  The ‘Higgs’ refers to a sub-atomic particle known as the Higgs boson, allegedly the one particle that gives mass to all other particles, hence the term, the ‘God Particle.’

Scratching your head and wondering ‘what in the world is this God Particle?’ Dr. Michio Kaku provides a two-minute particle physics class;

An if your head is now spinning due to the mere mention of String Theory and particle physics, perhaps this song can help you understand the basics. (my science pals claim this is accurate)

(H/T to the The Daily Mail for their faithful coverage of the LHC.)

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  • Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:01am

    Does anyone understand what “God of the gaps” means? It means that each time we discover something new it leaves less and less to be explained by using imaginary deities. The gaps are becoming smaller and smaller.

    And you are afraid.

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    • teddrunk
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:17am

      Yes, we must spend trillions at the alter of science. After all, we got these neat moon rocks and it only cost us a few billion in 1960s money.

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    • teddrunk
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:20am

      But what happens when science lies, just to get funding, like global warming and hiding the decline.

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    • Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:29am

      The same thing happens as when Bush lies to get funding for wars that we don’t need to be involved with.

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:38am

      OH, great comeback? Geez, grow a brain.

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    • Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:47am

      Ya’ll are sooooo easy to get riled up.

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:50am

      You cannot wrap your mind around incoporeality and intangibility.

      So your opinions on this scientific and religious topic is irrelevant.

      Intolerant Instigator.

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:52am

      If you haven’t noticed, this is a God-hating troll who likes to stir up religious and existential arguments because he doesn’t know who he is, and would like for someone to help him determine his origins.

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    • Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:59am

      I love you.

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 12:18pm

      Jesus loves you.

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    • mtheory
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 1:54pm

      @L_A_C_T

      That is a very ignorent statement. The more one learns the more gaps there are. Good science produces more questions than answers. Only a person with a HUGE ego would think otherwise. I have been a student of quantum physics for a while now…research my user name…and I can tell you that your statement sounds like something that would come from a teenage boys who thinks he knows everything.

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    • Hollywood
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 4:18pm

      UUHH! Really?
      FACT:Jesus lived. Read Josephus,Philo,not just a book called the bible.
      FACT:Jesus’s tomb was empty! Thousands saw Him for 40 days after His resurrection.
      FACT: Some saw Him taken into Heaven..
      Jesus calimed He would be raised from the dead. You know of any lie He told? What was His character like? Was he dlude/crazy.
      All of his disciples,excpet one were killed for their belief in Him.
      Do you think these men would die for something they knew was a lie?
      People will die for what they believe to be true, not false.
      He was known for making some of the most remarkable statements in History.LOVE YOUR ENEMIES, Love those who persecute and abuse you!
      Many don’t know the Sciences used to be a means od discovering more of Gods Creation,and trying to understand it.
      Since Darwinism[still theory by the way] it has been used to try to prove God doesn’t exist,and Darwin was right.
      None of the sciences have Proven God does not exist. In fact the more discoveries there are, like DNA structure, just show how incredibly intricate Gods’ designs are!
      Darwinian theory has been left in the dust,so to speak!
      Appealing to past arguments re “Religion” fought science, is of no consequence. Powerful people in the Church did, but they after all, were human too,still with Sin nature, and obviously mistaken.
      I will choose to Love you & I will pray for you!

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    • TheeDaveMoore
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:09pm

      As a person’s ability to perceive and conceive expanse they will come to understand God is not a person, who wants something from you. All except for the consequences to your actions you are already off the hook.

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    • WakeUp
      Posted on July 3, 2012 at 12:12pm

      Of course you do understand that it is impossible to be both a liberal and a critical thinker at the same time…….

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  • prmermen
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:00am

    and who funded this

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    • Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:04am

      People who aren’t afraid of the unknown, people who value science and learning, people who aren’t afraid to have their world view changed by facts instead of myth.

      Those people.

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  • USAFRetired
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:57am

    maybe if you loaded 99′rs in the LHC you could finally get all the tax money they absorbed to shoot out of them like particles.

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  • LostAllHope
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:56am

    I read most of the post here and I’m reminded of this…

    In 1610, Century Italian astronomer/mathematician/inventor Galileo Galilei used a a telescope he built to observe the solar system, and deduced that the planets orbit the sun, not the earth.

    This contradicted Church teachings, and some of the clergy accused Galileo of heresy. One friar went to the Inquisition, the Church court that investigated charges of heresy, and formally accused Galileo. (In 1600, a man named Giordano Bruno was convicted of being a heretic for believing that the earth moved around the Sun, and that there were many planets throughout the universe where life existed. Bruno was burnt to death.)

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    • MaggieRose
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:21am

      Yes, and if I remember my history correctly, Galileo was able to live long enough to have the church reverse itself, admit he was correct publicly, and be re-instated to the church. He was able to publish his works he was researching secretly during the trials, and his daughter carried on after he died.

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    • beckisnuts
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:41am

      Maggierose, the point you’re attempting to ignore is simply that religion has a long history of rebelling against reason and sanity and reacting with violence when feeling threatened by reality. Not a very good record by any measure.

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    • mooseman
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 10:52am

      And science is never political??? Global warming comes to mind…..we‘re supposed to accept this ’science’ as fact in spite of all the evidence to the contrary??? Never mind the climategate emails that outed the political agenda.
      Listen, I don‘t blame people for looking at the things people did in the name of ’religion’ and being disappointed. Jesus was the first to attack the religious leaders of His day. He called them a ‘brood of vipers’ and ‘white washed tombs’, but blaming religious leaders or hypocritical christians for not believing in or seeking out the truth is not going to get you anywhere with God on judgement day. He loved you enough to send His son to die for YOUR sins. If you choose to deny Him that’s your choice but you really should read I John before you make your choice. You may be foolish enough to believe that ‘something’ can come from ‘nothing’ but even your ‘scientists’ don’t believe that. If you claim to be an intellect then be ‘intellectually consistent.’ Before I became a Christian I questioned everything, both religion and science. I came to the conclusion after reading the Bible (imagine reading a book with a critical but open mind…what a concept.) that it not only made sense intellectually but God began to actually speak to me and reveal His truth. Any true Christian will tell you that nothing can change their heart or mind because they KNOW and have experienced Christ in their life. We know that the Bible says ‘the cross is foolishness to the world’ so we expect the comments you write. Many of us may have written similar comments before we came to know Jesus. Jesus is real. If He weren’t, believe me…the enemy would not have you so riled up about attacking Christianity. Ask yourself…are you upset with muslims, or buddists, or any other faith?? Nope, but but the fact people believe in Jesus has you posting away and trying to tear down the beliefs of those who worship Him. Don’t believe in the devil? You should. He’s playing you like a fine tuned instrument.

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    • beckisnuts
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 12:50pm

      Mooseman, your delusions are not my burdens. No devil spirit is doing anything to anyone. You believe in the supernatural. I do not. I find the idea of some supreme entity creating flawed creatures who then must beg for forgiveness or be punished in some horrible realm revolting and I’ll have no part of such nonsense. You have no right or grounds to lecture me and make claims about what religions I believe in either. Islam is even worse than all the other man-made religions. But what I find particularily repulsive, is the need for you delusional Jesus freaks to arrogantly smear the fetid peanut butter of your delusions on all the rest of us, like it will gain you points with your deity somehow. I find that repulsive to the extreme. Your myths about evil spirits, angels, demons, satan, saints and all the rest are ridiculous. Please keep it to yourself.

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    • HADEN0UGH
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 2:42pm

      Jesus loves you, Beckisnuts

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    • Physicist_In_Training
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 4:23pm

      Maggie — you might be right about that, but my understanding was that Gallileo lived the rest of his life on house arrest. He was not executed like Bruno (or countless others) because he took a huge gamble — that is, publishing his work — and his gamble paid off. That is, people read his work and took a liking to him. He was too popular to execute — but too dangerous to expose to the public any further.

      Also, he had a forerunner who helped pave the way for him; that is Copernicus. Copernicus, unlike Galileo, was too afraid of the church to publish his work during his life. He eventually did publish it — three days before he died. So the idea of a heliocentric solar system was not entirely new when Galileo came along, which also helped quite a lot to shelter him from the *full* wrath of the church. But I am very certain that he did have to live the rest of his life on house arrest.

      …Anyway, I thought it was within our lifetimes that the Catholic church redacted their statement of Galileo’s villainy (not his!). I can swear I even remember the headlines; they decided to build a statue of him or something in honor of the event.

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  • USAqh
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:54am

    Would someone just print this out and leave out the noise … thanks

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  • Marylou7
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:36am

    Bull Crap!!

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  • yathink
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:33am

    Well that was sad how much money are they spending? If they work real hard maybe they can creat a black hole right here or no but lets just see if oh damn it …………….

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  • USAFRetired
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:32am

    If they would put this much time and money into jobs that solve problems that need solving. Just think what we could do for world hunger, peace, or just getting the French off their lazy, double digit unemployed butts

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    • Bhaub
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 10:38am

      …You realize that if they harness the ability to create mass out of nothing, they could eventually construct food endlessly, right? Or fuel to power food processing plants.

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  • dcwu
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:28am

    Can they put Scientology to rap? LRon would like that.

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  • teddrunk
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:27am

    But Chris Mathews has taught us to worship Obama, as he does.

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    • LostAllHope
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:41am

      never worship a person, real or pretend. Go with science and knowledge

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    • teddrunk
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:09am

      LostAllHope, Oh I do worship science and knowledge. That‘s why I’m busy trying to turn Iron into Gold, and helping my wife with her sickness with a scientific bloodletting. Although it’s hard to find leeches around here unless you go to a bait shop.

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    • beckisnuts
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:29am

      Teddrunk, perhaps it’s time to join the rest of us in the present then.

      wow

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    • teddrunk
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 10:00am

      Beckisnuts, see science is relative to the time you’re in. At one point science told us you could turn iron into gold, at another time it told us the secret to curing diseases was sticking 40 or 50 leeches on someone, today science tells us the earth is entering an ice age, (circa 1978) then burning up, (circa 1998) and now tells us ANY climate change is due to global warming, as long as the public grant money keeps flowing. Funny how liberals are willing to spend trillions at the alter of science to lie to us in order to promote Communism, yet won’t let a company make a buck in profit to help with research money for the medicine that might just cure cancer.

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    • beckisnuts
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 10:27am

      teddrunk, neither alchemy nor the use of leeches were supported by the scientific method and empirical data, so they were not really “science” at all. I understand what you’re trying to say, but you’re off the mark a bit. People used to believe in hundreds of gods in the distant past, becuase they lacked the knowledge of why the world works as it does. So now we are down to one god for the most part. Just one to go.

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    • Bhaub
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 10:37am

      @beckisnuts

      You *can* perform some alchemy, though. It’s been done!

      “Transmutation of lead into gold isn’t just theoretically possible – it has been achieved! There are reports that Glenn Seaborg, 1951 Nobel Laureate in Chemistry, succeeded in transmuting a minute quantity of lead (possibly en route from bismuth, in 1980) into gold. There is an earlier report (1972) in which Soviet physicists at a nuclear research facility near Lake Baikal in Siberia accidentally discovered a reaction for turning lead into gold when they found the lead shielding of an experimental reactor had changed to gold.”

      Science can do some amazing stuff! :D

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  • porkay78
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:26am

    God blessed us with the ability to think, to ask questions, look into things. Seeing how something works in of itself is not evil. How we use that which we find determines the goodness or Godliness of it. Are we stewards of his creation or self-serving and abusive of the gifts he blesses us with?

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    • Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:35am

      Amen brother. We could be friends.

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    • MaggieRose
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:03am

      Exactly! Anytime one of the world’s brilliant rocket scientists discovers something like this, I can just imagine God clapping His hands, beaming with pride, enjoying Himself immensely and saying, “Aren’t my kids great? I love it when they find the treasures I’ve hidden for their enjoyment!”

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    • FromtheBasement
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 1:36pm

      @Porkay78, I couldn’t agree more. I don’t understand the need to pit science against religion, and vice versa. Particle physics/quantum physics is simply us trying to understand creation in a greater way. Why is that evil? Who is to say the things we are discovering, including evolution, aren’t the very mechanics that God used to create this wondrous universe, and us as well?

      I prefer Dr. Werner Von Braun’s take on this, and I’m paraphrasing, “Science is man’s attempt to understand creation. Religion is man’s attempt to understand the creator.”

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    • CCS
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 5:14pm

      Exactly! The trouble comes when you confuse the two or try to mix them together. That has never worked out well. The Bible is not a science book and cannot be read as such. Faith is a gift from God that one can embrace or reject. We see plenty of each here.. Science is what man does when he makes use other special gifts from God. Science can never prove or disprove the existence of God.

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  • Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:24am

    I bet you people don’t believe in evolution either. Just a hunch on my part.

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    • NickyLouse
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:43am

      In the words of Dylan, “You gotta serve somone… it may be the devil or it may be the Lord.”

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    • Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:50am

      There is no good evidence that either exists.

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    • Fernyyy
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:25am

      Take it from Theory and finish it to make it a Law and I might reconsider. Too many holes in your faith to convert me.

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    • Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:31am

      You must be talking about Christianity?

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    • Fernyyy
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:46am

      You might try thinking more and posting less. I’m seeing very little “thought” in your posts. There is a great deal of hate and a desire to flame someone, but that’s about it.

      Personally, I’ve generally found that “liberal” and “critical thinker” rarely go together. Try giving that some “thought”.

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    • HADEN0UGH
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 2:44pm

      I believe in Devolution. Liberals are a prime example of it happening.

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    • kitchenjoe
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 7:22pm

      Speaking of theories…. I thought you said you are a critical thinker.

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    • TheeDaveMoore
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 7:57pm

      God is not person. Without an eternal and creative source life and anything one might say is meaningless. Because so things are profoundly meaningful we have a foundation for greater things I.e. God

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    • TheeDaveMoore
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:25pm

      Evolution? as in man grew out of snails and monkeys? If we weren’t put upon to believe such nonsense we could get to the business of being human i.e. exploring for what some have called the “God Particle.” If you knew how we came to be having this experience…well by reading your stabs at logic that’s not a possibility right now. And who is to say who knows. We are fairly finite in our capabilities. The one think I see in your moniker that couldn’t possibly be true is your call yourself a Thinker. Well I guest that’s not going to change since the Peter Principle is in effect. All the best.

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  • bhelmet
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:22am

    Yay, time to worship a particle.

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    • Physicist_In_Training
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 4:09pm

      Yeah, because that’s what we crazy physicists do, we just worship particles all day. In fact, half our exams consist of making sure we know how to build the proper sorts of alters, what sacrifices to make, how to properly pray, what to eat and how to grow our hair to please the particles, etc.

      …in case you didn’t catch it, that was sarcasm. The “God” particle is just a nickname; it is called so because it is the particle which unifies everything else in QFD/QCD. If we cannot find reasonable evidence of the Higgs Boson then a lot of years of very well developed theory goes out the window. Physicists don‘t really think there’s any correlation between your God of the Old Testament, and this particle. We’re not replacing god, or reasoning god away, all we’re doing is seeking to understand the nature of the universe we live in, and “the god particle” is just a name.

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:29am

      Speaking of time what is time? Could it be that there is no Time-that what we call time is consciousness- time is consciousness and does not exist independentluy of our mind.The reason we have trouble describing what time is independently of speaking about space-movement from moment to moment[a spacial concept] is because there is no time only conciousness[movement of thought to thought].Time is consciousness.God is consciousness with power ,the power to act on space.We have some power because we’re made in His image hence we too create and act on our worldthough our power is limitedPeople in photographa appear quainte of time because thethe consciousness of the people in the photos is limited.Tou imagine asking a person in a old photo if you could borrow their cell phone the baffled look on their face if you said that to them then.That speaks to their limited consciousness and appears funny from our expanded consciousness[the passage of "time'].Their ignorance or naivete [the ignorance of the" future" or expaanded consciousness] and appears quaint.Future events are future thoughts.Physical events[a tree falls in the forest] are movements in space .Space and time are seperate though gramatically we say moving through time -that is a misnomer.Time does not move because time is simply consciousness[a movement of thought to though[spirit].Objects appear[to move sequentially] to human conscioussness through moving thoughts[awareness[] but quantumly are independent of thoughts and therefore of time[which does not exist -only spirit-thoughts exist freely[move].

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:21am

    It’s rather like the “scientists” who think they can “create” man/woman in the laboratory ~~~ missing the GOD ingredient.

    There is NO way to “capture” GOD, particle or whole. HE will not be captured, killed or mocked. Do so at your own peril.

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    • Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:27am

      God can’t be “captured” because it doesn’t exist. Well, unless you want to call imagining a deity in your head “capturing” it.

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    • LostAllHope
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:51am

      It must sux to live your life in the fear of the unreal

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    • beckisnuts
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:10am

      Well said people. Living a life in the fog and haze of delusion and fear is certainly not my choice. I mean as a thinking individual, it seems obvious to choose reality over hocus pocus.

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    • HADEN0UGH
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:29am

      It really is surprising how many people get upset because you believe in God. It’s as if they need to mock you to solidify their own beliefs.

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    • beckisnuts
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:42am

      But hadenough, I don’t believe in any gods at all.

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    • sodacrackers2
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:42am

      It must “stink” to live your life “believing” in not believing and worrying about what other people believe and coming to websites “to be amused.” I never go to liberal websites because I do not find them at all amusing.

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    • beckisnuts
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 10:04am

      It’s not as much fun as discussing the facts of the story, which you bible-thumpers refuse to do, but it is a close second.

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    • HADEN0UGH
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 10:04am

      Becknuts, not believing in any gods is having a belief.

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    • beckisnuts
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 10:19am

      hadenough, knowing that the rock in your hand feels hard is a fact. Thinking the rock in your hand is occupied by an invisible creature that can read your mind is a belief.

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    • Lemon47
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 10:40am

      I myself am not “religious”. I deal with reason and logic with everything I do. I think that if there is a god, well, that’s fine and dandy. But I don’t outright assert that there is or is not one.

      For those of you who say that there is not god, without any proof, how can you know for sure?
      For those of you who say there is, how can you also know? True, we have books, but that doesn‘t mean that they can’t be written/altered.
      I think religious organization as a whole is corrupt. Ghandi had it right: If Christians would be more like Christ, then it would be better. Religion is meant to guide you to better yourself as a person.
      Science is a great thing. We can learn about stars that are millions of years away from us, or make new vaccines to save people. It’s a neat thing, and useful.

      In short, I think religion is for ethics, science is for reason. They’re the sides of the same coin.

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    • NickyLouse
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 12:17pm

      Today’s Tom Sawyer, [the atheist]
      He gets high on you, [ridiculing]
      And the space he invades [your right to speak]
      He gets by on you. [mocking]

      No, his mind is not for rent [don't try to figure him out]
      To any god or government. [he has no loyalties]
      Always hopeful, yet discontent, [trying to convince others of his truth]
      He knows changes aren’t permanent, [blowing in the wind]
      But change is.

      Credit: Rush

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    • TheeDaveMoore
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 7:59pm

      The hardness of the rock in your hand is a perception just like everything else.

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  • 13thGenerationAmerican
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:18am

    A new documentar­y on the Tea Party and Koch Brothers from their attempt at the Presidency in 1980 through the victory in the 2010 elections. It’s very informativ­e and includes a lot of informatio­n, including the strength of the Tea Party movement. It’s worth a look.

    http://www­.billionai­resteapart­y.com/watc­h-film-for­-free”

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    • NickyLouse
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:23am

      Are you a SPAMMER or did you post to the wrong article? If you are a SPAMMER, that’s the quickest way for me to blow off whatever it is you might have to say.

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    • VTDave
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:54am

      @13thGenerationAmerican

      As opposed to the “poor” communist liberal marxist march to oppressive tyranny and the death of millions…… Gee, I think I will continue to take my chances in the capitalist system thank you very much.

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    • Stoic one
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:41am

      Gee, from an Aussie. Corporations and rich people have opinions as well. I will take my chances with a corporation rather than big government. yes i watched it.

      thank you very much.

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    • Hisemiester
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 1:38pm

      Back in your hole 13th. Comments don’t fit in.

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:18am

    @TRADEXPERTBUYSELL ~~~ AMeN to that!!!
    And, I’ll raise you california, massachuesetts, wisconsin, illinois… (at least the governing agencies therin)

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  • fatsomann
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:10am

    Messing with something we ought not be messing with.

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    • LostAllHope
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:45am

      is there a list of things ought not be messing with?

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    • Fernyyy
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:12am

      @Lost

      Yes, there’s a list. It has 10 commandments on it.

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    • beckisnuts
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:12am

      Yes they do have a list. It starts with “fire” and goes on from there. Funny folk aren’t they?

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    • Fernyyy
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:22am

      @ Beckisnuts

      Not quite as funny as those who cast themselves as gods.

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    • beckisnuts
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:25am

      And who would that be fernny and which god would they be casting themselves as? At one time I suppose it would have been Zeus.

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    • beckisnuts
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:54am

      lemon, what can be asserted with out proof can equally be dismissed without proof.

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    • Physicist_In_Training
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 3:59pm

      “Thou shalt not do physics…” nope I don’t remember that one. “Thou shalt not try to understand the world thou lives in.” I don’t remember that one, either. “Thou shalt not think.”

      …you know I really must be rusty on my Bible knowledge, because I just can’t remember where to find any of those commandments!

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  • NickyLouse
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:07am

    This field of research isn’t like paleontology, climatology or the study of the theory of Darwinian evolution. These scientists deal in cold hard facts. There is no supposition of whether they are right or not. They look purely at the evidence and ascertain exacting conclusions about their hypotheses.

    If we can agree that only God can create, then we may be looking into the workings of His mind. Before you criticize these people, please realize that you are taking on some of the world’s most intelligent people. We may have the Spirit of Truth in us, but let us have a teachable spirit that is quick to listen and slow to speak.

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    • WireWizard
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:31am

      Well said. I think it is unfortunate that this has been dubbed “The God Particle”. This could be the beginning of warp drive and navigation through wormholes in space;-)

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    • Stoic one
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:16am

      I agree WELL SAID

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    • Capitalist Mama
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:31am

      Nicky,

      Science has very little cold hard facts. As a trained chemist (currently a full time mother), scientists rarely deal with absolutes. Science deals in guesses. Make a guess, test it, observe, test it again and again and again, observe again and again and again. Make a better guess, test it, observe, rinse and repeat.

      Ever read Origin of the Species? It’s a hypothesis. It’s observation. It’s theory. The Theory of Evolution. While I have a great respect for science, it is not nearly as cut and dry as it is portrayed.

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    • NickyLouse
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 10:45am

      Dear Capitalist Mama,
      My post did not clearly indicate that the scientists who I referred to as dealing in facts were the physicists working on the LHC. Using this collider they are doing exactly what you said science does by observing the results and comparing them to their postulations – opposed to the “sciences” of climatology or Darwinian evolution that operate mostly on speculation in their observations.

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    • Physicist_In_Training
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 3:54pm

      Thanks Nicky. That‘s the most encouragingly reasonable comment I’ve seen here today. I find it unfortunate that so many people are so quick to totally discredit this subject and assume they instantly know better than those of us who are devoting our lives to studying it, based simply on a name, or the fact that they assume that to promote science is to demote God. In my experience, physicists are not interested in disproving God, but rather in discovering truths about the universe we live in and finding ways to model behavior that we observe. I am very wary of any entity, be it religion or government or anything else, that insists that to seek knowledge is evil.

      We just finished our section today in Modern Physics on the Higgs Boson — absolutely fascinating stuff. I’ll be watching the developments of the LHC with interest.

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    • IAMINFORMED
      Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:48am

      I am with you Nicky. Too many hard-core religious people want to kill science and it’s great discoveries. Same goes for a lot of scientists that only believe in pure science and no GOD. That is why I am no longer “religious” and am now spiritual. I hope this collidor is worth the billions that have been spent on it. We can use some new discoveries in science and math.

      For those who want to preach that discovering things like this is “wrong” and that we shouldn’t try to figure out GOD, you need to go back re-read the bible very carefully. We (according to the bible) were made “like” God and have been given the gift of awareness and knowledge. I believe it is our responsibility as humans to discover EVERYTHING that God has created for us. And for the scientists and non-believers of a higher power or human spirit, well, that is for you to find.

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  • teddrunk
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 7:53am

    god particle? (yawn) get back to me when your precious collider can turn water into wine.

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    • kickagrandma
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:19am

      @TEDDRUNK~~~~ and turn brussel sprouts into chocolate!!! ; )

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    • LostAllHope
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:27am

      has that ever happened? Proof? let me guess, you read that it did in a book and you believe it. landau guide us

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    • Bhaub
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 10:31am

      Did you know we can turn lead into gold? You can do alchemy with the elements- it’s just too expensive to make it profitable. Water to wine isn’t all that impressive compared to what science can do.

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    • ecurbyy
      Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:34am

      Hey teddrunk; Good one there buddy. I think this is the first time we’ve gone to the God zone in this forum. I know Christ was a liberal, but, I believe God is a conservative. A lot like me and my son…..

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  • DeltaHawk
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 7:52am

    B S packaged as intellectual information! People who don’t believe in god will believe everything else.

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    • LostAllHope
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:25am

      Yes…lets just believe in the all powerful boogie man…with thinking like that it’s surprising that mankind ever got beyond stone knives and bear skins

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    • log cabin republican
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:52am

      RE: lostallhope
      Its no wonder you have lost all hope, i.e. no God = no hope

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    • LostAllHope
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:59am

      No god = reason

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    • beckisnuts
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:07am

      And right on cue, the superstitious and ignorant among us emerge from their haunted enclaves to spread their malicious message of mubo jumbo and nonsense. What is particularily amusing is the fact that all of you benefit from scientific discoveries and in fact enjoy them every day of your lives, yet your type also were the first to decry their creation in the name of god, all along the way. Perhaps it’s time to simply smarten up.

      Well, it does bear repeating in the face of your comment deltaha.

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    • WowReally
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 5:32pm

      @Logcabin, I just recently lost god and found hope.

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  • thermonator
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 7:51am

    I fail to see how this rap song simplify particle physics unless you tend to think in rhymes. Why not just say it?

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  • HellAndBack
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 7:51am

    I like that I followed that…. But one would think people that smart would be able to figure out rap better. LOL
    j/k GJ GUys

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  • NickDeringer
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 7:47am

    The answer is NO.
    There is no Multi-verse.
    Absolutely nothing didn’t create absolutely everything. Scientists are having a big problem finding out what the word “nothing” actually means.

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    • LostAllHope
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:34am

      spanish inquisition

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    • beckisnuts
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:03am

      And right on cue, the superstitious and ignorant among us emerge from their haunted enclaves to spread their malicious message of mubo jumbo and nonsense. What is particularily amusing is the fact that all of you benefit from scientific discoveries and in fact enjoy them every day of your lives, yet your type also were the first to decry their creation in the name of god, all along the way. Perhaps it’s time to simply smarten up.

      It was worth repeating.

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:48am

      The word nothing implies that the universe is a holographic projection.

      And yes, scientists know what it means.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:49am

      Hey beckisnuts, who created the god particle?

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    • beckisnuts
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 10:01am

      Gonzo, has it ever occurred to you that everything that exists does not necessarily require a creator? Who created fog or the clouds you see in the sky for example? No one.

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    • DeeperThink
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 10:40am

      @Beckisnuts, you should know that matter is not created in fog or clouds, just that water vapor (invisible gas) becomes visible in changing environments. The actual particles (molecules, or even atoms/sub-atomic bits) existed before and after the fog appeared.

      The real question, is where did the pieces that made the subatomic parts that made the atoms that make the molecules that make the fog come from?

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    • beckisnuts
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:51am

      deeperthink, resorting to the usual tactic of claiming another made a statement that they did not in fact make and then babbling on about it is just plain wrong. Shame on you for pulling that stunt.

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    • PCDoctors4u2
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 12:04pm

      “The Greatest concepts have always encountered the greatest opposition from mediocre minds”
      Albert Einstein 1938

      Even Albert bowed is head when he broke his bread and thanked our Lord for the magnificence that is “Mother Nature”! Praise the Creator not the Creation!

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    • Bytor
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 3:54pm

      @ PCDOCTORS4U2 Posted on April 25, 2011 at 12:04pm

      And Einstein also said “God doesn’t play dice”

      I’m not one of a staunch religious background, I have a very open view of the subject, but I would have to say that if there is a “God particle”, that would not in any way remove God from the equation.

      And to the BECKISNUTS asshat, tell me, if matter can neither be created nor destroyed (as you are taught in physics), then where did matter come from in the first place? .. and if you use the big bang theory, that it came from a singularity of energy, the back to the same question, where did that come from? … until you can explain it, you can’t explain it, and therefore you cannot discount anything, God or otherwise.

      Humans don’t know jack squat about life, that is the only known FACT in this whole equation. But it is sure a lot of fun trying to figure it all out … isn’t it?

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    • Hollywood
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 4:25pm

      God said: Let there be LIGHT,and there was light. Now THAT is POWER!
      GOD created the Heavens,and the Erath.
      God said: Let US make man in our image!
      One day ALL will see Him as He is, and US unfortunately, as we ARE. Thank you Lord for forgiveness,and forgive them that know You not. May they one day recognize your LOVE!

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    • schmite123oh
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 4:28pm

      @ beck is nuts

      i think you should change your name to “i’m nuts”

      Then IMHO you can self gloat all day long!

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on April 26, 2011 at 2:08pm

      exactly”.Why is theresomethingratherthennothing”?Because the only true being-[essential,non-derived being is Spirit-the Spirit we call God from which derived,contingent,cause and effect]“beings” or things [matter .energy etc] have their origen.That which is caused [derived]at the end of the chain of being derives from the uncaused,essential being.hence the unmoved moveri[God]exists as that with the most “being” underrived,capable of effecting.All else is a contingent effect of pure Being[God]. Through the grace of God we move and have our being and through his grace and love are made in His image and given eternal life[eternal soul] to partake forever in His holy all good undefiled,inncorruptable by effects by contingencies] Life.The spiritual life withand of God.

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on April 26, 2011 at 3:08pm

      The universe USED to mean everything that is and was therefore all inclusive.Now physicists come up with the phrase “multiverse” and change the meaning of the word universe to mean less then everything there is.They changed the rules of the game on us lay people by changing the vocabulary and meaning of words..When they now speak of limits to the universe but bring in the concepts“other universes”they change the meaning of words also when they speak of space bending or space not being empty.When what they mean are particles being invisible If what they mean is there is no empty space but that all space is occupied by particles of whatever name then they should say that space is like a vast blanket interwoven [particles.When they say the universe is "expanding" and one asks expanding into where?,they answer into other Universes,they are violating the meaning of the word universe whose common sense meaning includes that in which this" balloon" of the expanding "'universe"is moving into.If they really believe that particles spontaneously come into being out of nothing[as oppossed to becoming visible where previously they were invisible] then they believe in magic.How ironic is that pysicists on par with primitive shamens.

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  • V-Forge
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 7:45am

    Yes. the rush to get funding is on.

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  • G man
    Posted on April 25, 2011 at 7:40am

    Oy..

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:08am

      @IseeDanger:

      True, and I wonder if they push their experiments far enough, will they unleash something best left alone and cause a smouldering hole in the ground to form where the supercollider once stood.

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    • LostAllHope
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:23am

      @ iseedanger.com – Why? Genesis is a just work of fiction

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:25am

      Ever wonder why this is called: Evil Twin, Anti-Matter, Black Matter

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    • Marcobob69
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:27am

      I was all set to listen until I read the word rap. Why do they always make things into rap songs nowadays??? We can understand just as well WITHOUT using rap as a vehicle! IMO!

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:34am

      @Marcobob69

      I tend to agree with you….why is it always rap these days? I’m not opposed to a catchy tune being used to aid learning…. now I know my ABCs, multiplication tables and School House Rock come to mind.

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    • sbigshaun
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:43am

      @ISEEDANGER.COM, a LOT of things could have been avoided in Washington if some of those clowns would have read Genesis.

       
    • AriBenTZion
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:59am

      The guys are definitely not equipped with the dance gene.

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    • beckisnuts
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:02am

      And right on cue, the superstitious and ignorant among us emerge from their haunted enclaves to spread their malicious message of mubo jumbo and nonsense. What is particularily amusing is the fact that all of you benefit from scientific discoveries and in fact enjoy them every day of your lives, yet your type also were the first to decry their creation in the name of god, all along the way. Perhaps it’s time to simply smarten up.

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    • LostAllHope
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:03am

      @midwestmom..

      It’s not called black matter, it’s called dark matter, sorry to spoil your racist fantasy. There is something called a black hole, which is something akin to your ignorance…vast

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    • Stoic one
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:12am

      That was GREAT!!!!

      A rap song that was fun, without ANY degradation in it.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:46am

      @LostAllHope

      “It’s not called black matter, it’s called dark matter, sorry to spoil your racist fantasy. There is something called a black hole, which is something akin to your ignorance…vast”
      ————————————————————
      You are correct in one point & one point only: I did make the simple mistake of terminology but exchanging black with dark doesn’t change my question. My error was certainly not a racist comment. Though I do wonder why your mind would automatically assume it was a racial slur?? Only demonstrates the vastness of YOUR ignorance.

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    • Rogue
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:48am

      Word to your fermion.

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    • RRFlyer
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:49am

      I missed “rap” in the description, but turned it off as soon as they started spitting in the mikes

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    • Cobra Blue
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:55am

      Never happen. Why? You can’t put GOD on a box. All of man’s wisdom does not equal the foolishness of GOD. All of the scientist will die trying. All those before them have. To GOD be the Glory. Amen.

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    • LostAllHope
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 10:00am

      @Cobra Blue…you can’t put god in a box..good point, you can’t put something unreal into a box

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 10:04am

      @LostAllHope

      So you have no trouble understanding my post: my question was based on the traditional beliefs of Good vs Evil. Evil has been described for centuries as “dark, black, anti etc”. To benefit your lack of intelligence, I’ll break it down even further: Evil is evil, Good is good and neither have any relation to skin color.

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    • AAMichael
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 10:22am

      For those being ridiculed by @lostallhope please see rules of the Internet #14.

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    • mikem1969
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 10:22am

      @Snowleopard

      What they will unleash is a black hole on earth. They only God partical I know of is God himself, the freaking scientists need to leave well enough alone.

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    • Cobra Blue
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 10:26am

      LostAllHope

      I assume your comment about something unreal you may be referring to supernatural?

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    • its_time_to_arrest_our_government
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 12:41pm

      we been warned about playing God. now just tell me who made the particals you are studying? or did you pull them out of your ass? its so funny to watch these fools thinking they know anything at all. if you listen to these folks you start beliving that if you pick your nose your head will collapes.

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    • drattastic
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 12:48pm

      Hope they don’t blow up the planet. Like a toddler playing with a loaded handgun.

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    • FoxholeAtheist
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 3:23pm

      @MIKEM1969

      They should “leave well enough alone”? If we had taken that approach we would still be in the dark ages.

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    • Physicist_In_Training
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 3:38pm

      “if you listen to these folks you start beliving that if you pick your nose your head will collapes.”
      ________________________________

      That’s funny; we just finished our section on QCD/QFD and the Higgs Boson today in my Modern Physics class…I could have sworn that we didn’t learn anything like that. Clearly I must have missed something, as your superior knowledge of physics is eminently obvious.

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    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 4:07pm

      ….Do my eyes deceive me?? No more “report post”???
      Awesome!

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    • beckisnuts
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 4:22pm

      The supernatural can most certainly be dismissed bytsor, because there is no empircal proof of it at all. You believe it because you were inculcated since childhood, just like everyone else that buys into that hocus pocus nonsense.

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    • jzs
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 9:51pm

      Thanks Blaze for posting this. Dr. Kaku is replacing Carl Sagan as a popularizer of science. Sagan’s every scientific thought went side by side with the idea to show everyone in the world our shared humanity, and the need for inhabitants of Earth to look for common ground with one another and to work toward toward world peace. Sagan, although an agnostic, was more profoundly religious than most (if that’s not ironic). I won’t try to say more, but you can read a decent perspective on his life here:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Sagan

      Anyway, I believe Dr. Kaku is carrying on where Sagan left off. Drawing new talent into science, including physics, and showing that being a scientist is not the opposite of being religious.

      Which is absurd in my view. If there is a God who created us all, why would he object to the human desire to understand the Cosmos?

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    • EP46
      Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:33am

      Dan Brown needs to sue them. This is the plot of his book “Angels & Demons” written in 2000.

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    • Florida_Freedom_Fighter
      Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:07am

      Skip to 3:02 because the woman raps she still hasn’t explained what higgs does. until then…..ehh. f’it it……skip the whole thing…

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    • carebear411
      Posted on April 26, 2011 at 12:35pm

      What I find interesting is the fact that whatever these scientists discover, it will only prove the need for God. The amount of brain power and planning that has gone into this simulator is evidence that an intelligence was necessary in making the particles collide in just such a way as to create the occurrence the scientists are trying to recreate.

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