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Hawaii Democrats Propose Charging Fee to View Obama Birth Certificate

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Hawaii Democrats Propose Charging Fee to View Obama Birth Certificate

President Obama, on vacation in Hawaii

The debate has been raging for months and months, but legislators in Hawaii — the state at the center of the controversy surrounding the birth record of America’s 44th president — are taking a new entrepreneurial track in their latest attempt to end the dispute.

A new bill introduced in the state legislature would make President Barack Obama’s birth records available for anyone who wants to see them — if they are willing to pay the fee.

In exchange for a $100, the bill’s supporters hope access to the documents will finally dispel claims he was born elsewhere.  The Associated Press reports:

The bill would change a privacy law barring the release of birth records unless the requester is someone with a tangible interest, such as a close family member.  The measure was introduced by five Democrats but has not yet been scheduled for a public hearing, a required step before it can move forward. A decision on considering the bill will be made by the House’s Democratic leadership and committee chairmen.

The idea behind the measure is to end skepticism over Obama’s birthplace while raising a little money for a government with a projected budget deficit exceeding $800 million over the next two years.

“If it passes, it will calm the birthers down,” said the bill’s primary sponsor, Rep. Rida Cabanilla. “All these people are still doubting it because they don’t want the birth certificate from Obama. They want it from our state office.” …

The new legislation to release records may run into similar legal problems because of Hawaii’s strong constitutional privacy protections, said Rep. John Mizuno, a co-sponsor of the bill.

“If people really want to confirm Barack Obama is born in Hawaii, that’s fine,” Mizuno said. “I don’t have a problem with looking at innovative ways to bring revenue to the state. The taxpayers deserve a break.”

The $100 fee would help offset the extra work by state employees who handle frequent phone calls and e-mails from people who believe Obama was born elsewhere, Cabanilla said.

But the number of birther requests has been declining from the 10 to 20 weekly inquiries received early last year, according to the Department of Health.

“Requests have decreased significantly over the years. Currently we receive anywhere from zero to five per week,” said department spokeswoman Janice Okubo.

The Health Department is still reviewing the bill, Okubo said.

House Health Committee Chairman Ryan Yamane didn’t immediately return messages seeking comment on whether he would hold a hearing on the bill.

Click here to view the legislation.

Closing questions: Doesn’t the existence of the xerox machines render the $100 fee pointless?

Also, Gov. Abercrombie has said these records are private and making them public would violate Obama’s right to privacy.  Why would it be okay to legislate away a single person’s right to privacy?

Comments (87)

  • TwoLazy
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 7:21am

    Charging to see public records, humm, HEY, that’s sounds like capitalism

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  • GreenSicko
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 6:53am

    For 100 bucks you will find out Obama is not the first black president he is listed as WHITE.

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  • P4cooler
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 6:42am

    Oh crap… They printed up a phony BC.

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  • redbone2011
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 5:54am

    Great. Let them change he law, we only need one copy of his BC.

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  • BoilitDown
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 3:29am

    It’s amazing that so many on the left are sudden clamoring for his birth certificate. I have no doubt that a certificate will emerge at a most convenient time for Obama.
    At this point, how can it matter that much except for Obama’s benefit?

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  • phil1765
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 3:13am

    Hmmm, I don’t really think that you can charge a fee to view something that is SUPPOSED to be public record, I know they charge for copies of public records. I don’t know exactly what Obammy is trying to hide but why exactly would you spend some ungodly amount of money to keep something as inconsequintial as a birth certificate and school grades and transcipts from public knowledge?

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  • Redbaiter
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:42am

    Glenn Beck claims the Constitution is important. Why does he continually dodge this issue, probably the most important matter right now as far as the Constitution is concerned? The president has to be a loyal American and this is why there is a Constitutional limit upon who can hold that office. There is no proof Obama can qualify. He must resign. Mr. Beck, you either care about the Constitution or you do not. Which is it??

    Hawaii Governor- There Is No Birth Certificate.

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  • pamela kay
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:41am

    Cheezwhiz, the answer to what has changed………………….the birth certificate. Or did it? I have to wonder how many years before the truth is revealed one way or another. As far as the state of Hawaii charging to see it, that is just ridiculous. Didn’t the govenor of Hawaii have one drawn up because there was no public record found at any hospital in that area? So why would anyone but a fool pay to see it in the first place?

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  • peaceuntou
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:36am

    Seems like his mom was leaving country and was mad she had to give up her citizenship or just leave but she had to leave but she would be back.. Not positive been awhile…
    Well if he is illegal President would explain alot even why he would make illegals paperwork non important and to get all the benefits he has let happen for them. I still think knowing the mom’s story could determine alot. Too many missing links.

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  • pamela kay
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:35am

    Cheezwhiz, what changed? answer………….the document. I have never been a birther but lately some of the statements coming out of Hawaii are getting more and more strange. However, I am still on the fence. I can not believe that the state of hawaii is considering a charge to see this birth certificate. Or is it a real birth certificate? I wonder how many years it will take to find out the truth one way or another. The mystery continues.

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  • DGroundhog
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:18am

    In a couple of days we will see an article titled ‘Privacy Law Prevents Hawaii Legislature From Charging $100 to see Obama Birth Records’.

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  • CaptainSpaulding
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:11am

    It’s a ***PUBLIC*** document jerks!

    Taxpayers have already forked the money over for it.

    Making you pay for it twice: just another day in Obamaland. :)

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  • southernloyalty
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:02am

    Didn’t the Governor of Hawaii just make a fool of himself trying to find his birth certificate and coming up empty handed? I guess they’ve printed one out now then. Oh well bc or not, he’s still a stupid marxist traitor know document is going to change that fact.

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  • bestartist
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:51am

    This is absolutely the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard of in my life.
    Why on earth should the Truth be available only to those who have 100.00 they can or are willing to spend on something all American citizens have?
    I guess if I get stopped by the police and asked for my driver’s license, I’ll ask for a 100.00 to show it….I wonder if that will fly?
    I thought all these progressives thought that wealth should be redistributed equally……..maybe Truth not so much.
    Still, how does this explain away the Natural Born Citizen issue…or the Connecticut SS#…..
    Stupid doesn’t describe it actually, crock of s**t is more accurate.

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  • peaceuntou
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:46am

    Someone said on internet he wasn’t born in regular hosital and no medical person signed off on it. That noone actually wittness the birth. So what good is his birth certificate. Noone seen him born? Democrates just need to throw another party for the pres so of course turn to the hard working Americans to raise the money. I believe the well is dry.

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  • Diane TX
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:45am

    Look, Barack Obama‘s mom was an American citizen so it doesn’t matter to me where he was born – he’s an American citizen. I’m more concerned by children who are born on American soil and are considered to be “citizens” when neither parent is an American citizen. That‘s this Country’s real problem.

    However, I think that Barack Obama should just show his birth certificate with the Doctor’s signature on it just to stop all this nonsense. Obama has proven himself to be “unqualified” to be President in so many other ways. Does anyone in their right mind believe that Obama has become “Reganisque”? He’s still the far-left Socialist who will continue to have Big Government take over every aspect of our lives if he is reelected in 2012. Save the USA – don’t vote for Obama in 2012!

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  • barrynmooch
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:42am

    You know..if this was an issue with me, and I was in office. There would be a barrage of people to vouche for me.The next door neighbor that changed my diapers, the staff at the hospital, the woman that babysat my brother while my mom was giving birth to me…etc…and I am 51 yrs old.Hear a thing from those about Obummer? Other than his neighbors and childhood friends in Indonesia where he attended a Muslim school…not so much.

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    • SFYMP
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:59am

      It is convenient that no more than a handful of people have come forward remembering “good ole barry” Everybody else in america that was born a citizen here in 1961 will have literally hundreds of people that can remember their life. How is it that no one knew him before? Coincidence? enquiring minds want to know!

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    • oldoldtimer
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 10:35pm

      No one knew him before and no one knew him after. Funny no one remember him in any college he is supposed to have attended except his first year at Occadental where they thought him and his rich prince were lovers. No one remembers him after that. No exgirlfriends. No friends period. Nothing until he started community organizing.
      My question is why is Congress, all of Congress, covering up for him?

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  • TrueToTheCoreAmerican
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:41am

    Although I would not consider myself a “birther”, after all the questionable “live birth” information and the failure to provide the “long form birth certificate” to meet qualifications and the recent news I have to admit… I‘m now wondering if there isn’t something to this. ANY American citizen can show a birth certificate and if lost can request a replacement. So, now I have to wonder why the president of the United States cannot provide a simple piece of paper to make the question go away.

    Generally when proof is not/cannot be provided then the GUILT is without doubt. I’m wondering if this president was elected while not qualifying and now as it would be a great embarrassment to this country the FEDS are covering it up. Come 2012 he better be prepared to show the REAL birth certificate or it will be the end of progressive liberal reign.

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  • peaceuntou
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:41am

    what criminals. You know wish I could remeber it all. But I truely remember there was something in the news years ago about his radical mom and how she said He was going to be the president of the United States. She was really mad I remember. Have to try to do old research unless someone remembers to.

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  • Bob_R_OathKeeper
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:39am

    Thousands of illegal aliens have gotten “legal” birth certificates forged in the meantime, I‘m sure he’s managed to have one done too, at least to cover up his Caucasian persuasion.

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  • PointBreak
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:31am

    They’ll need to sell at least 20,000 of them to cover the cost of the forgery and cover-up.

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  • Ezekiel38
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:15am

    You’re kidding me! The birthers have already promised to pay in the millions to see his BC. This sounds another plant to discredit the Birthers! The guy has paid millions to protect his personal documents. Even the Supremes do not want to prove that there is a Hawaian BC in court! Remember so many cases got dismissed and some judge even spoke of “public embarrassment”? You’re kidding me?

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  • SFYMP
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:15am

    Democrats. Anything for a hundred bucks,

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    • Akfire
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:47am

      Hell lets step it up, I will pitch in 100.00

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  • PointBreak
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:11am

    Done. Where do I send the check?

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    • MARYLANDRON
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:37am

      You can‘t pay to see something that simply isn’t there……….

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    • RobertCA
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:51am

      You’ll get this answer when you send them the money “ Will get back to you”

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    • RobertCA
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 3:12am

      oops We’ll

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    • Taquoshi
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 9:04am

      Amazing…simply amazing. The more the President stonewalls on this, the greater the interest becomes. The reason that the number of calls has dropped from 10-20/week down to 0-5/week, is because more and more people have become convinced that Hawaii does not have a full birth certificate for B.O. Even if he released the full, long form notarized certificate tomorrow in triplicate with the original footprints intact, I’m not sure I would believe it at this point. Too much work has gone into stonewalling.

      B.O. is going to be remembered as the bowing President without a birth certificate, Now, isn’t that just so special?

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  • silentwatcher
    Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:11am

    Yea, when the ink dries….

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    • BMartin1776
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:25am

      I was just going to say that… I hope at least half the states pass that eligibility law for 2012 b/c Barry Dunham, Soetoro, Obama or whatever his name is will be screwed.

      Let me guess they will want at least 5-6 figures to show it and it will be in a dark room with SEIU, AFL-CIO, Soros Org, and the rest of the Alphabet Organized Crime Families goons supervising the viewing where it will be a quick flash of “here” then its taken away!

      Stop going this route ppl look into finding out what his legal name is! Stayed tuned I will post my opinion piece on this in a day or two on http://www.savingtherepublic.com with a legit argument on this whole fiasco and where birthers or anyone at this point should be focusing their energy on this issue!

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    • GBMBulletsSKNRD
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:27am

      It seems to me most of the birther talk has come from the left.

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    • royrescue
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:30am

      progressives at work! to discredit Americans that want the truth,and to take We The People off the mission of taking back our country!! http://www.atlasshrugged.com Who is John Galt??

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:30am

      “If people really want to confirm Barack Obama is born in Hawaii, that’s fine,” Mizuno said. “I don’t have a problem with looking at innovative ways to bring revenue to the state. The taxpayers deserve a break.”

      ——————-

      Soooooo…. why didn’t they do it 3 years ago ?
      2 years ago ?
      1 year ago ?
      What changed ??

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    • taxed
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:32am

      Hussein is simply one phone call to putting this to bed.

      He can do it at the turn next time he is golfing…

      http://conservativepoliticalforum.com

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    • tea bag patriot
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:37am

      Ha ha……..crazy tea baggers still on this birth certificate stuff.

      tea bag patriot  
    • rojotx
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 1:38am

      My sentiments exactly!

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 2:33am

      “Also, Gov. Abercrombie has said these records are private and making them public would violate Obama’s right to privacy. Why would it be okay to legislate away a single person’s right to privacy?”

      Well said.

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    • Nick84
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 3:21am

      BMARTIN1776-
      Your website is insane. I hope the FBI is keeping an eye on it.

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    • GONESURFING
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 4:10am

      They will do anything for revenue here in Hawaii. The Democrats have run this state for over 40 years and the result is not pretty. Poor infastructure, roads in bad shape, schools near the bottom, taxes always going up, they can‘t even find Obamas’ birth certificate, oh yea that’s a different story.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 6:31am

      The Trap closes

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 6:49am

      Just take a trip to Ripley’s Believe It or Not in St Augustine, FL and you will find things more believable than what Hawaii is trying to pass off as BO’s birth certificate. It does cost a good deal of money to have a document done well, hence the admission fee.

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    • chazman
      Posted on January 28, 2011 at 9:23am

      I have a better idea. How ’bout you Hawaii Demoncrats pay me $100 to view my butt!

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    • *************************
      Posted on January 30, 2011 at 1:58am

      Conservatives should counter-proposes putting Barack Hussein Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate AND head on permanent display in the rotunda of Capitol Building … right next to the heads of the previous Congressional Democrats (with the few Republicans who voted with them).

      “There, there, Taggart. It just a man on a horse being hung.” -Hedley Lamarr, Blazing Saddles

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    • *************************
      Posted on January 30, 2011 at 2:05am

      @BMartin1776 – http://www.savingtherepublic.com/Who_is_BHO.html

      Bravo!

      rail-worker CHARLIE: “They said you was hung.”
      sheriff BART: “And they was right.”
      -Blazing Saddles

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