Crime

Hell Hath No Fury Like a Farmer Scorned: See What One Angry Man Did to Some Cop Cars With His Tractor

NEWPORT, Vt. (The Blaze/AP) — A Vermont man, who authorities say was angry over an arrest and used his tractor to drive over seven police vehicles, is expected in court.

State Police say 34-year-old Roger Pion (PEE’-on) was taken into custody in Newport on Thursday, shortly after he allegedly crushed the Orleans County sheriff’s vehicles. Estimated damage was at least $250,000.

Farmer Roger Pion Drives Over Police Cars with Tractor

Sheriff officers walk past crushed cruisers at the Orleans County Sheriff's Department in Newport, Vt., Thursday, Aug. 2, 2012. Authorities say 34-year old Vermont farmer Roger Pion, angry over a recent arrest last month on charges of resisting arrest and marijuana possession, used a large tractor like a monster truck, destroying seven police cruisers. (Credit: AP)

Farmer Roger Pion Drives Over Police Cars with Tractor

Sheriff officers examine crushed cruisers at the Orleans County Sheriff's Department in Newport, Vt., Thursday, Aug. 2, 2012. Authorities say 34-year old Vermont farmer Roger Pion, angry over a recent arrest last month on charges of resisting arrest and marijuana possession, used a large tractor like a monster truck, destroying seven police cruisers. (Credit: AP)

He was apparently mad over his recent arrest on resisting arrest and marijuana possession charges.

Sheriff‘s deputies working inside their building didn’t know what was happening until a neighbor called 911. They didn’t hear the ruckus outside because their air conditioners were humming. They said they couldn’t pursue the man because their cars were crushed.

Farmer Roger Pion Drives Over Police Cars with Tractor

Roger Pion (Newport City Police)

However, the New York Daily News notes he eventually led police on a “low speed chase”:

Roger Pion – pronounced pee-on – of Newport, Vermont, drove his massive tractor over seven vehicles in the parking lot of the local Sheriff’s Department Thursday afternoon, leaving them looking like they were crushed by a monster truck.

Pion, 34, then led cops on a low speed chase through town before being apprehended a mile away.

Pion was arrested last month for resisting arrest and possession of marijuana, according to Orleans County Chief Deputy Sheriff Phil Brooks, an arrest that clearly put a crimp in the “livin (sic) n love having fun” quote listed as his favorite on his Facebook page.

The Newport Daily Express says many officers pursued the 10 1/2 foot high, Case MX 255 Tractor on foot.

“I saw him back it up some and then drive it up and over the top of one of the cars parked in the lot,” one witness told the Express. “It was then that I really knew something very unusual was going on at the sheriff’s station.”

Pion faces numerous charges. He’s expected to appear in court Friday. Authorities didn’t know if he had a lawyer.

Comments (267)

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  • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:29am

    Kudos to the fellow for standing up for what he believes. Sooner or later all of the police apologists are going to be forced to make their own choices as the police state grows to cross whatever personal line in the sand that they have drawn. Methinks most will go like sheep, but a few will resist.

    I find it interesting that most look at any confrontation with cops as though we should be sheep. Yet, history is littered f examples where nothing would have changed had a confrontation not occured. Again, on Glenn’s program they played “Birmingham Jail” many days in a row. Most of you/us hummed along and thought about what a wonderful song and message that was. Yet, based on this board, reality suggests most would have labeled Dr. King a “thug” or “criminal” and cheered the cops who put him in that cell if not questioning why they didn’t do more to “teach him a lesson” on his way there.

    You speak of the Sons of Liberty and the “Tea Party” but no nothing of civil disobedience. The Boston Tea Party was a criminal act…plain and simple. Y’all need to start reconciling how messed up your worldviews really are. You can’t bask in the historical civil disobedience and then be taken seriously while you cheer on the state while they are taking away the very freedoms you are fighting for. It makes no sense. Pot laws are stupid and are the gateway to 32oz Dr. Pepper laws. Start thinking like chess players instead of checkers players.

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:43am

      People that “cheer on the state” and take the side of govt are weaklings. They don’t have the courage or physical ability to win confrontations so they side with the police state in order to be on a winning team. Most progs fit this description.

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    • ainthurtinnobody
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:05am

      Amen brother.

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    • historyguy48
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:09am

      I think its a pretty interesting thing to do but I’d hate to see his insurance premium after he gets out of the slammer!

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    • Stephen Markovich
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:12am

      An attorney would have been much more dignified and cheaper…

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    • lordjosh
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:14am

      Second that Amen!

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    • Exiled
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:18am

      The County Sheriff is not “the State”. Get educated, people! The whole point of the County Sheriff is to keep law enforcement LOCAL. The Sheriff is elected LOCALLY. If you don’t like your Sheriff, you can easily vote him out of office. The Sheriff is not beholden to the State. Or to the Federal Government. Your Sheriff is the best protection you HAVE AGAINST a Statist, military government. Constitutionally, the Sheriff “outranks” ANY other agency, including Federal.

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    • altmanblaudio
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:19am

      You are 100% correct ROTHBARDIAN_IN_THE_CLEVE

      How many disciples were in prison?

      The 1950′s thought…I mean brainwashing of “if you are in prison you must be a bad person” has got to go. I personally believe making the majority of the populace FELONS is an easy way to control people. In the FELON scenario…the punishment continues on…even though you supposedly paid your debt to society by being incarcerated.

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    • Ari Ben TZion
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:35am

      Amazon CEO Jeff Bozo is using his wallet to take a stand – let us do the same.

      Close your Amazon account and ask others to do the same.

      Support Chick-fil-A

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    • ERP
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:39am

      Shaking my head….

      So people here are openly advocating violence and criminal vandalism towards officers of the law?

      I thought it was only rumor that some of you have lost your marbles but now after reading these comments the rumor is now truth.

      I hope those on here who are anti-police don’t have any officers in their family.

      Time to break out your Ice-T rap posters

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    • resme
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:42am

      agreed.

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:47am

      Exiled
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:18am

      The County Sheriff is not “the State”. Get educated, people! The whole point of the County Sheriff is to keep law enforcement LOCAL.
      ====================================

      That ain‘t what’s really happening though:

      ———————
      “Strapped Police Run on Fumes, and Federal Pot-Fighting Cash
      July 3, 2010

      IGO, Calif.—Shasta County Sheriff Tom Bosenko, his budget under pressure in a weak economy, has laid off staff, reduced patrols and even released jail inmates. But there‘s one mission on which he’s spending more than in recent years: pot busts.

      The reason is simple: If he steps up his pursuit of marijuana growers, his department is eligible for roughly half a million dollars a year in federal anti-drug funding, helping save some jobs. The majority of the funding would have to be used to fight pot. Marijuana may not be the county’s most pressing crime problem, the sheriff says, but “it’s where the money is.”
      http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703648304575212382612331758.html

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:55am

      The State in a philosophical sense..not in a literal sense like the State of Texas.

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    • JimmyP
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:56am

      Get a grip, people.

      Imagine that in the time it took police to replace their vehicles a police emergency occured. How do you explain to the victims of that hypothetical emergency that you think it was a heroic gesture on the part of Mr. Pion, who was arrested on pot possession charges?

      Imagine that poor soul was your mother, father of someone you cared about. How would you feel if this had happened in Aurora CO the night of that tragedy?

      Rather than being an act of support for legalization of pot, this is a perfect example of why it SHOULD be kept illegal. It will be interestiung to see what, if any illegal substances were in Mr. Pion’s system.

      You think there is ANY comparison of this malicious act perpetrated by one man who may or may not have been under the influence of a drug that has been proven to cause impairment of judgment, schizophrenia, depression and anxiety to the actions of those brave patriots who carried out the B’town tea party? I pity you, your associates and your children for being surrounded by the lack of critical thinking you demonstrate.

      This is not a funny thing – real, law abiding people were put in jeopardy by this jack wagon’s action.

      Who will pay the price of the increased insurance premiums for this town? Will you folk who see this as an expression of the indomitable American spirit get out your checkbooks?

      GET A GRIP, people!

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:57am

      @ERP,

      So in your mind is there any limit on what a cop can do? Thank God our founders weren’t like you…else we’d have had no 3rd amendment.

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:04am

      JimmyP
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:56am
      Rather than being an act of support for legalization of pot, this is a perfect example of why it SHOULD be kept illegal.
      ======================

      That’s preposterous….

      There’s absolutely no reason in the world to continue insulating the Mexican drug cartels from potential competition any longer.

      I don’t know why anyone would ever suggest increased protection for the Mexican drug cartels.

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    • destrecht
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:05am

      Look to priests for life. Catholics are doing it

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    • Jezcruzen
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:19am

      Sometimes a man just has to do what a man has to do!

      Exile – if you think voting out a sheriff is “easy”, you must not have voted in many elections. Most are entrenched like a parasitic tick into the local “god ‘ol boy” political system. Good luck!

      As for them being a constitutional officer – correct. But since when lately has anyone in “Athorita” given a crap about the Constitution? 1776

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:31am

      Well that’s interesting. I wonder what would happen if a million 18 wheelers decided to do that?

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 12:22pm

      The story is funny….The guy was DUMB!!!

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    • sillyfreshness
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 12:34pm

      This guy is lucky to be alive. I‘m surprised the cops didn’t immediately declare him a “home grown terrorist” and shoot him. Homeland Security would have backed up the cops if they would have.

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    • Smokey_Bojangles
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 12:48pm

      Gee Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve,These are some of the same so called Conservatives that have no respect for the 4th and 5th amendments.Why should they respect the 3rd?

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    • black9897
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 12:59pm

      This is great. Although I don’t encourage anyone to use violence, the statists are pushing people and sooner or later this kind of stuff will happen.

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    • rcguy
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 1:01pm

      Checkmate.

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    • Dano.50
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 1:15pm

      Stand up for his beliefs?!

      The guy’s into drugs and it appears mj users are not the peace out people all those advocating legalization claim them to be.

      And please don’t go into this “If mj were legal” b.s. Right now it’s not. Plain and simple.

      When Ghandi broke the laws in India in peaceful protests some judges were willing to let him off but he insisted he be put in jail because those were the laws at the time and he broke them. His purpose was to show they were injust, while at the same time pointing out that violence was not acceptable.

      You can‘t just not obey the laws you don’t feel like obeying. Pretty much every law out there, somebody doesn’t agree with and most of them are sensible laws.

      I‘ve had several close calls with mj users and here’s what I’ve learned.

      One, if they want a ride in your vehicle they never tell you they’re carrying, leaving it up to you to decide if you want to take the risk.

      Two, if you specifically ask people not to “bring” anything when riding in your vehicle, there’s always someone who LIES their face off.

      And three, if the cops stop you and find something, nobody ever says, “Please, officer. Those are my drugs and this guy didn’t know anything about them. I will take ALL the consequences, including his.”

      Lock this schmuck up and throw away the key.

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    • goldmankc
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 1:27pm

      very well stated

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    • cykonas
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:03pm

      @LORIANN
      As was the original Boston Tea Party a very good example of overkill. The colonists didn’t have to board the ships and dump the tea. They could have just boycotted it, and refused to buy it.

      But, they were fed up. So they did what they did, and we all know the eventual outcome. Their lives got tough for a while. I‘m not defending this guy because I don’t know his motivation. His life is probably going to get tough for a while. But I’m telling you folks are getting fed up. Our liberty is under full assault by government at every level. It’s much more likely that you will see more of these incidents, than you are to see less of them.

      That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government…..

      That passage is from the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence. Increasingly, the governed in this Republic, are failing to consent to the lunacy of the government. Just like Mr. Pion. Was the guy right or wrong? You can be the judge of that. But I’m telling you folks, are getting tired of the onerous laws and regulations, the lying, the double standards, and the loss of their liberties and freedom. Check out some of your local Tea Party meetings. Exchange ideas. You’ll see what I mean. Peace.

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    • Rajaat99
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:27pm

      “Pot laws are stupid and are the gateway to 32oz Dr. Pepper laws.” I agree completely.
      Quick question, Why did alcohol take a constitutional amendment to outlaw, but every other drug doesn’t?

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:53pm

      ROTHBARDIAN_IN_THE_CLEVE… the Nuremberg defense was that “they” were military personnel only following orders from a superior officer during a time of war, and therefore not culpable for immoral acts.
      These civil officers (Sheriffs) are bound by oath to uphold the civil laws as past by the representatives elected to office by their constituency. Big difference between the two.
      After reading the majority of these posts that expresses such venom towards law officials, government and ‘love’ of pot, I‘m beginning to wonder if some posting here aren’t OWS/Anarchists.
      As a conservative libertarian, I distrust government, but also acknowledge it’s necessity for a civil society to exist, and thereby benefiting the common welfare and personal property. That being said, I do think that the majority that occupy our current government, whether that is local, state and or federal are not acting in good faith guided by a moral life. But then, the government is reflective of our society in general. We allowed our elected officials to increase the compensation for civil service beyond reasonable amounts. As warned in the Federalist Papers, this attracted those of a baser character who desire wealth and power for their own ends, and not to serve for the common good as a vocation.
      (cont.)

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:59pm

      (cont.)
      Our society is sick, morally speaking, and until that changes any fighting and replacing of the current government will result in the same subjugation soon after. If you want effective changes in the laws and those who pass and enforce them, then challenge yourself, and encourage your family, friends and aquantences to live a Godly life. Then ask them to do likewise with others in their lives.

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 4:14pm

      Excuse me, didn’t proof read… “civil laws as past by….” should read passed.

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    • lordjosh
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 4:22pm

      PaxInVeritate

      There is no such thing as civil law. Common law is not written. No one needs a published law to know that you can’t harm someone, steal or destroy their property or commit fraud in contract. What’s there to write? What they do write are codes and statutes for their corporations, and as long as you thing you must obey them, they’ll enforce them.
      You said, “I…acknowledge..[government is a] necessity for a civil society to exist,”. Prove it.

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    • SgtB
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 4:50pm

      @Dano 50, So basically, what you are saying is that just because something is considered illegal, anyone with a mind to disagree should have their opinion shot down right out of the gate? How open minded of you. Do you know that drug use has exploded since we started this war on drugs? Do you know that we are spending billions every year across the entire nation to pay for that war and lock away “offenders” for decades at a time? Do you even know what it is like to spend a year or even a month locked away? I have some idea since I did graduate from MCRD San Diego after a grueling 3 months locked away from everyone I knew and every comfort. BUT, I did that willingly. I can imagine that if you put me in prison for a month, let alone a decade, for the possession of a plant, I would go absolutely ape crap insane and I wouldn’t give two shakes what you think, what you want, or your personal property. And please remember, this is coming from someone who is a Marine Corps Veteran, non-drug user, and a husband over 8 years who married his high school sweetheart. I’m not a bad guy. I can only imagine how someone who is a not so nice guy might feel when he gets put behind bars because he had the audacity to grow a plant.

      Roth is right. It’s far past time to start fighting back against this insane and unwinnable war on drugs. It is idiotic to continue and anyone who says otherwise is oblivious to the costs involved. I know the costs.

      RIP Sgt Jose Guerena

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    • CRiley65
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 5:57pm

      You said the Boston Tea Party was a criminal act. In the strictest sense, it was. However, they were going against the British government that was placing taxes on the colonies and making laws when none of the colonies was allowed to speak out against them. That is tyranny. None in the British gov’t could be kicked out of office by those in the colonies. Those in the colonies had no voice and were basically scorned by the British.

      What this guy did to the police’s cars was definitely a criminal act! Just because he got arrested for committing a criminal act (resisting arrest and marijuana possession) does not give him the right to take it out on the officers. Instead of taking his anger out on the cars, he should have gotten a lawyer to help him. Since the article said he had been arrested, then it meant the court hadn’t judged him yet. Being arrested does not automatically mean you’re guilty. (Hence, the phrase “Innocent until proven guilty.”)

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    • deloclem
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 6:53pm

      Most of the cops I have encountered are arrogant ba$tard$. They demand respect and treat you like garbage.

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    • boone1
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:04pm

      Hell we need to goget this guy out of jail.

      LIVE REE OR DIE.

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    • Unix
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:22pm

      F the liberal communists, let FREEDOM reign and to hell with these overbearing laws!

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:51pm

      LORDJOSH…

      “There is no such thing as civil law. Common law is not written.”
      First, what is your understanding of “civil”? Is it pertaining to property only, or does it include an understanding of a genteel society? Common Law? By that do you mean Natural Law? What is the binding unspoken agreement by this “common law”? By that I mean by what societal standard? Is this standard universal? Can it be found in the societal life of the Ecuadorian tribe of the Shuar (who are headshrinkers, and are talking about bringing that practice back into existence) as well as in Western and or Eastern societies?

      “No one needs a published law to know that you can’t harm someone, steal or destroy their property or commit fraud in contract.”
      If that is the case then why are there such organizations such as the Costa Nostra and MS13 (et al organized crime)? Furthermore, are you generalizing a western ideal of what “common law” is and thereby excluding others, such as the Shuar or those based on Sharia law? To be sure, the understanding of what is “common” to those who follow Sharia only applies to those that follow that law. For them, any non-believer of the Islamic faith can be killed, property taken and or destroyed, and make a fraudulent contract with. In addition, just because this “common law” is known does not necessitate adherence to such law for that would be a Utopic society. 
      (cont)

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:57pm

      (cont)
      “…as long as you thing [sic] you must obey them, they’ll enforce them.”
      And doing otherwise is Anarchy.

      “What’s there to write?”
      Plenty. How about examples where one is going through divorce, having a mineral claim “jumped” or anything else that deals with personal property or idea. How about the inventor of the intermittent windshield wiper? He was not a corporation, but a private citizen. Ford and Chrysler stole his idea and it took the civil courts for him to receive just compensation for patten infringement. Without assurances that ones tangible and or intangible property rights (for both inventor and investor) are assured, a vibrant and innovative free market system would be impossible.

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    • grayling646
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 12:01am

      @ ROTHBARDIAN

      You agree with what he did? How many cop cars have you destroyed today?
      You‘re one of those who want a revolution but you don’t want to get your hands dirty.

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    • BoyHowdy
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 12:29am

      Thank you.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 9:03am

      @grayling,

      How many cop cars have I destroyed today? None. How many have come to my house to deliver goons to kick in my door? None.

      That day is coming for all of us sooner or later. Once thoughtcrimes are accepted none of us will be safe. Make no mistake, when the moment comes for me I will not hesitate. Will you?

      That all being said, my hope is that we can wake up as a people to avoid this. To me the only peaceful way out is secession. But that’s just me. I’d ask you, do you really think that the state is going to stop reaching for our liberty? Do you think they will see the errors of their ways and apologize and shrink? That is just silly. It only stops when WE stop it. I loved the fella who posted the second paragraph of the DOI. That is it in a nutshell.

      Either we believe that or we simply pay lip service to it. Our choice.

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    • lordjosh
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 9:30am

      @PaxInVeritate

      Civil law is Common Law. Common law isn’t published (save the Magna Carta).
      “How about examples where one is going through divorce, having a mineral claim “jumped” or anything else that deals with personal property or idea. How about the inventor of the intermittent windshield wiper?” This all falls under Common Law jurisdiction. None of the examples you have given require a statute for justice. A couple going throught the divorce; each side gives reason for divorce and what tangable property each wishes to walk away with. The jury makes a decision based on that testamony. the magistrate witnesses. The miners present their claims in fact to jury who decides who is just. No need for statutes there. With the inventer, I’ll admit a small grey area here. One smart use of a federal corporation is to estatblish a registry for new inventions, or to protect the copying for the purposes of gaining, any art or literature. i.e. copywrite protection. However, it need to go no further then setting up an efficient registry. Now it’s pretty clear for the jury. “I have my invention registered, here’s the paperwork. We don’t need statues on top of it claiming certain sentencing for certain “violations’ and wha tnot. All that is for the jury to decide on a case by case basis.
      Continue….

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    • lordjosh
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 9:54am

      “What is the binding unspoken agreement by this “common law”? By that I mean by what societal standard? Is this standard universal?”
      It is universal in sense that common sense is. That’s not just my conjecture; “We hold these truths to be self-evident….” At trial, we don’t rely on the common sense of one, the use a jury of 12 to 24 is the usual practice. The plaintiff calling the Common Law court declares the law. the makes the case for how the defendent violated that law, and what the punishment should be. Example, Theivery is an offence of the worst nature, after discovering my electronics missing, John Doe was cought selling them at the pawn shop. The punishment should be surgical removal of his hands. And the plaintiff must convince jury that all three aspects of the case are just. The law, the evidence that the defendent committed the act and the punishment. Of course the defendent may make a case to defend him/herself.
      Statutes actually protect the guilty from common Law punishment. Take a state that has banned capital punishment through statute. Now say we have a cut and dry case, with witnesses, that three men who are members of the MS-13 gang, raped and toutured to death a 13 year old girl. A Common Law court could probably get death sentences for the defendents, but in a statutory court(also an illegal court under the constitution) no capital punishment allowed. As a matter of fact. the jury doesn’t even get to see the evidence. continue…….

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    • lordjosh
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 10:23am

      The judge determines what evidence will be admitted and what will never see daylight. And if that is not atrocious enough, he/she will then tell the jury what the law is, how it’s interpretted and that they must adhere to his/her determination. That is not a jury trial by definition. In order for a jury trial to exist the jury must know that it is there to judge the facts themselves unfiltered by the judge, and that they may also judge the law.
      As for whether or not Common Law is universal is irrelevent. It has been practiced in western civilization for about 1000 years. The Magna Carta was written in 1215 which published to an extent what Common Law is, however, if common Law is common sense then we know that there is some liquidity there. That is why it is unwritten and rest in the hands of 12 to 24 members of your peers. (I hope it’s evident what the consequences could be for bringing frivolous or fraudulant suits) we must worry abou what we do. not what others do. It is a simple choice. Do we continue living in sin? Worshiping the constitution and the government it created, the flag that symbolizes it? Or do we embrace the gifts given to us by our creator, take responsibility for our freedom and liberty, and starve the monster.

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    • N0BOX
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 2:29pm

      Sorry to disappoint you, but what he did was not what anyone would consider ‘civil disobedience’. Acting out violently, even if only against property, would have been denounced by the civil rights movement. I do believe that marijuana should be decriminalized, but the only way that we will be able to make that happen is to support the right candidates. Currently, I think the only candidates that would support the decriminalization of marijuana are the libertarians.

      Why aren’t we electing them?

      This was not an act that can be compared to the Boston tea party or the civil rights movement. All this guy did was lash out at the police in a supremely redneck fashion. He wasn’t trying to make a statement about the rights of his fellow Americans.

      Also, you could consider the actions of the local sheriff as an extension of ‘The State’, because the sheriff is required to uphold the laws of the state. They will also uphold the laws of the nation, and if the federal prosecutors want to pursue charges, that is their prerogative. The feds tend to step in when a large quantity of drugs is involved, but all the ‘arresting’ activities happen at the local level. If you want the local sheriff to stop arresting you for smoking weed, then you are going to have to change the laws of the state, not the local ordinances of your county. Even if you get the state to drop marijuana from the drug schedules, you will also have to deal with the feds until you get the federal laws

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    • v15
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 3:56pm

      JimmyP
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:56am

      “Rather than being an act of support for legalization of pot, this is a perfect example of why it SHOULD be kept illegal. It will be interestiung to see what, if any illegal substances were in Mr. Pion’s system.

      You think there is ANY comparison of this malicious act perpetrated by one man who may or may not have been under the influence of a drug that has been proven to cause impairment of judgment, schizophrenia, depression and anxiety…..”

      _________________________________________________________

      @JimmyP, you really think drugs cause schizophrenia? Damn, you’re stupid.

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    • ElPzee
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 7:35pm

      YEAAAAAAAAAAHHAHH!!!!! That‘s what I’m talkin about. bet they won‘t steal his nugs’ again.

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 10:50pm

      LORDJOSH…
      Let’s condense everything you have stated in all your posts as anti-establishment and advocating for revolution. Would this be accurate? If so, the euphemism, “You are throwing the baby out with the bathwater.” comes to mind. After ditching the “constitution and the government that it created”, what will you replace it with? What is the better option out there than what the founding fathers created? Just common sense/law? The “monster” is always present in any governmental system, it’s just to the matter of degrees given the morality of the society governed. Those that constructed the Constitution realized this, and why there are 3 branches as checks and balances. We as a society failed ourselves by not being vigilant.
      Some side notes: 
      I worship the Lord God, honor the Constitution, and mistrust those currently in government.
      If “common law is common sense” then it would be universally accepted by the whole world, not just western society.
      If “common law is common sense”, then the Magna Carta would never of had to been written to bind those who ruled for the commonwealth (Monarchy and Parliament) to itself.

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    • lordjosh
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 8:02pm

      @PaxInVeritate

      Not so much revolution but an awakening. Its not so much what the founders created, but what it has become. What are these “checks and balances” you speak of? Those lines have been erased long before I was born. What about the monetary system? Do you understand it? And if so, you don’t see the illegitimacy of our “government”? You have been reduced to chattel. Your purpose is to work to pass through these promissary notes so that an illussion is maintained and a few steal all real tangble capital. It’s rigged top to bottom. Yeup, I think we can do better.

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 5:02am

      “Not so much…”, as I read it, is a namby pamby, yes no, sorta but not quite type of answer. Be courageous enough to be honest. Yes or no. Have you stated in your posts your dissatisfaction with the current system, and proffered some nebulous common law as an alternative? Yes you have. “…you don’t see the illegitimacy of our “government”? …Yeup, I think we can do better.” says it all. The only thing left from your position is a civil war/revolution.
      If “[i]ts not so much what the founders created, but what it has become.”, then why not fight to restore it to what it was as the founders intended? If that is an impossibility to you, then whatever you replace it with (after civil war/revolution and grave loss of life) will end no better.
      But then, given the eschatological times that we are living in, this whole issue is a moot point.

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    • lordjosh
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:43am

      Will it end or change, in your opinion?

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:36pm

      Yes. It will first change, then end. The era of Man ruling over itself by it’s own laws is coming to an end. First, the current Pope will be forced out. Then the Catholic Church will appear to faulter and the Anti-Christ and his prophet will come forth and create a world government and religion. After that, the Son of God will come to put an end to all this and finally establish His divine will on earth. You may mock me and that is fine, but you will recall this when it happens. Read the Book of Daniel, Revelations and 1st Enoch. All of it is coming to pass in our time.

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    • lordjosh
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 5:08pm

      I wouldn’t mock you. Seems to me that you make a perfect case for not complying with those who seem to be fufilling those prophecies.

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    • supermansdad
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 3:08am

      Pure ignorance and pipe dream on the part of Roth and the non-Milradian Dot. Percieved rights abuse does not grant you or anyone else the right to destroy property that is not yours. Remember, two wrongs do not make a right. There is a huge difference between narcotics laws and oppression that occured during colonial times or as in the Sudan. Regardless of weather the apprehension was for his marijuana or for whaking his pudd in public he does not have the right to destroy property that is not his.

      The only reason you are supporting the pothead is because he’s a doper who stood up to authority. I’m all for fighting corruption and standing up for what is right. However, there are correct and improper ways of doing so. Most of you are ignorant to the fact that most states acknowledge that citizens can and should resist unlawful arrest. The problem is was this arrest lawful? According to his state, as acknowledged by the 10th Amendment, they have restricted marijuana possesion. If he had the paraphernalia then the apprehension was valid and he did NOT have the right to resist.

      He has done little than to prove he is as his name implies.

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  • ainthurtinnobody
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:22am

    Just one more thing. Check out the last name. The Pion’s are rising. He’ll be the hero of the little man. Their motto will be Popeye’s motto: “That’s all I can stands, I can’t stands no more.

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:34am

      I bet when they went to arrest him for the car smashing they had SWAT teams ready to murder him in a second if he lit a cigarette, helicopter support, snipers, goons with shotguns ready to kill his dogs, etc. etc. etc. Anybody want to bet me?

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:41am

      And the board would react like this.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC_H2s7rMvE

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    • samnjoeysgrama
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:02am

      Too bad his motto wasn’t “That’s all the beers I can drink, and I can’t drinks no more!”

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    • Tractorboy
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:18am

      I’m glad nobody got hurt, but seems the farm boy disabled the whole darn police force. Something funny about that. Will there now be a call for tractor control? By the way back in my younger days when I did really stupid stuff a guy that bullied me got his car covered with cow manure in the middle of the night.

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    • supermansdad
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:24am

      @Mil-dot

      Exactly how should the officers react or affect the apprehension? As somebody who seems to know all there is about proper officer safety procedures, how should they have handled it? Pulled an Andy Taylor and say “Awe shucks, Roger, now I gotta take you in for the night.” Are you so ignorant to believe that a large farm impliment capable of destroying a full size car is incapable to do bodily harm of an unwitting civilian in his way or officer standing in his way? What if an officer had blocked his path with his car &/or body? Would deadly force be authorized if he tried to or did run that officer over or should the dumb cop have known not to get in the way? Should they have just laughed it of and appologized?

      We are a nation of laws not a nation of anarchy. The State, as is their right acknowledged in the 10th Amendment, can set narcotics laws. They did. Just as they can and do restrict driving because driving is a privledge. This person was suspected of being in violation, an apprehension was attempted and resisted. What part of you don‘t have the right to resist a LAWFUL arrest don’t you get? Unlawful yes but not unlawful.

      SWAT team? No. But dang certain with weapons drawn as waton destruction does show and indicate a propensity of violence.

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  • I Aint PC
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:19am

    What’s the saying “I would rather be peed-off then peed-on.“ Newport PD found out what it was like to be ”peed-on.”

    He broke the law and was arrested. But with a name like Pion, you cant help the jokes. Most police officers are good people and thankfully none were hurt.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:31am

      Remember that when they are flying drones over your house. Remember that when they look the other way while you are groped/porno scanned at the airport. Remember that when they arrest people who refuse to comply with Obamacare. Remember that when they set out to disarm the population.

      At least being as sheep doesn’t require you to think much.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:42am

      I have mixed feelings on this…he was arrested fir marijuana. Anyone who smokes it, knows it’s illegal and they could face being arrested. But, he “resisted” which has become a saying meaning the cops got rough and he didn’t like being roughed up. But, come on smashing 7 cars is overkill.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:47am

      My only issue is that he destroyed public property. If he had an issue with the police treatment or felt that he wanted to take a stand against what he sees as totalitarianism he should have crushed their personal autos.

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    • Grandpoobah
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:27am

      I’m with LoriAnn12 on this one. Don’t run up a $200,000+ bill for the American public – We didn’t arrest you. Not a very civic thing to do.

      @Rothbardian you make very interesting points. I didn’t like them at first, but your thoughts are typed intelligently. And you cite history correctly. I can’t argue with that. Keep talking, I’m listening.

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    • deloclem
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 7:05pm

      Most of the cops I have encountered are arrogant ba$tard$. They demand respect and treat you like garbage.

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    • supermansdad
      Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:46am

      Once again Rothtard, your ignorance is astounding. In many states had he attempted to destroy personal property lethal force is authorized by that citizen to protect their property. Personally I would have stood on my car and let the retarded pot head try then pumped him full of 1o.z. slugs.

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  • ainthurtinnobody
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:18am

    A man‘s gotta do what a man’s gotta do. Looks like Roger sorta took the law into his own hands. I bet he felt real good for about 5 minutes until the Empire struck back.

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  • alpha2omega47
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:04am

    Seems like we are starting to see more and more weird stuff in the New England states. Maybe they are waking up from their Democratic, Progressive trance?

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    • Deibido
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:16am

      No ….they are not awake yet.. wait till the lights go out and they are looking for help from thier neighbors with food and guns and brains!

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    • kimmyleigh
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:19am

      Dumb comment, what does that have to do with anything? Oh and I am a Vermonter and a Democrat

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    • kimmyleigh
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:24am

      Oh and there are PLENTY of guns up here, don’t worry.

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    • TexasHunter
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:59am

      KIMMY Betcha we have more down here :) Also people that actually know how to shoot them!

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:54am

      I hope you are right about New England. I know UN Agenda 21 is working hard to get a foothold here. The “live free or die” state had better wake up. I support our local police. They are good people. We lost our Sheriff in Greenland not too long ago to a drug dealer. It is not the local police around here asking for drones, it is the Fed. Govern. that wants those. I just hope the general population takes a stand with local government and puts a stop to the invasion of the UN and the Federal Govern. I urge people to support their police, they are here to protect us.

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:58am

      kimmyleigh – would not expect any other comment from a Vermonter. We remember the nuts you voted into office.

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  • markeng
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:49am

    Clearly this man was and is a criminal. However he has used a farm tractor with more affect than a gun to challenge the government’s authority. This means that all farm tractors must be registered so that they can be banned.

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    • carbonated
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:00am

      Yep. You’re probably right. We should ban tractors. I’m sure the EPA would love that. We can import all of our food from China – ‘cuz they love the environment. Tractors are too dangerous to have in this country.

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    • idarusskie
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:54am

      I thought they were registered. Much like a car is registered.

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    • remington7600
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:55am

      a sheep speaks

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  • nattybrooks
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:45am

    when a citizen gets fed up with the socialism of a state like vermont retaliation is sure to occur. i know this area well there is no work and education is at a minimum. more and more cops are putting themselves in these situations they should feel lucky pion was never a violent person this could have been much worse. this is first hand info.

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    • Exiled
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:50am

      How did the cops put themselves in this position!? They were simply obeying the law. If he didn’t like the law, he needed to change the LAW, not get revenge on the people enforcing it.

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    • lordjosh
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:03am

      It’s funny that you think that there actually is a law that should be changed. No harm, no fowl. No victim, no crime. That is common sence which IS the law. Not your corporate codes and statues you consent to. Again, if the officers are there to arrest criminals than they need to arrest themselves for the kidnapping and unlawfull restraint of Roger Pion.

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    • kimmyleigh
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:21am

      Wow yeah he did this because of socialism haha! No he was angry at the cops, why is everyone making this political?

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    • TAXEVERYONE
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:22am

      He was just expressing himself.
      Lord josh, were you absent the day they taught spelling?

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:26am

      People are getting sick of the police state. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:32am

      @Exiled,

      Right the people enforcing the “law” are never accountable. Wonder why that defense didn‘t work for the Nazi’s? You should have been a Nuremberg to make that case.

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    • Exiled
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:37am

      Yes, enforcing the law. Would you rather that police just enforce whatever laws they feel like enforcing? If pot wasn’t illegal, the cops wouldn’t be arresting him. That simple. And if you think you‘re going to compare a County Sheriff with Nazi’s, you need to brush up on your history.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:44am

      @exiled,

      It was also illegal to be jewish in germany.

      Oh, and it used to be illegal to be black in certain places in the US. And yes, county sheriffs hauled off many a black man for drinking at the wrong fountain.

      If you can‘t see the issue here then you are willfully blind or else you’re still infatuated with that guy who used to stuff you in lockers but grew up to be a cop.

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    • ReadMurryNRothbard
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:55am

      @EXILED: “Obeying the law” is the Nuremberg defense the Nazis used. Everything the Nazis did was legal. A law is nothing more than a politician’s scribbles on a piece of paper. It means nothing until adults, acting in a conscious and voluntary manner, put force, guns, and authority behind that law. The cops chose to do this to him. They call this “The War on Drugs”. It’s a war that they declared — and they’re just butthurt the citizens are fighting back in the battle.

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    • Exiled
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:21am

      The difference between here and Germany is that YOU made the laws and YOU voted for the Sheriff. When was the last time you voted for YOUR Sheriff? Do you even know his name? It’s COMPLETELY in YOUR hands who is enforcing the laws in YOUR county. Don’t blame the State (the Sheriff outranks them), don’t blame the Feds (the Sheriff outranks them, too). Blame YOURSELF for voting in the guy that you’re complaining about.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:01am

      On March 23rd 1933, the democratically elected Riechstag voted to 441 for and 84 against on the enabling act giving Hitler dictatorial powers.

      You were saying.

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    • Puddle Duck
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:55pm

      Very poor comparison. The Nazi party murdered or threw the opposition into concentration camps…the vite in the Reichstag was a farcical forgone conclusion. The Sherrif in VT could not eliminate anyone running against him …..HUGE difference. The garmer was/os an idiot, period. He made things a whole worse for himself with the emotionally driven irrational act….he gave the law and courts carte blanche to make his life 10 X worse than if he had jept his cool gooten a lawyer and fought the charges in court as most sane folks would do (in his situation). In the end however he has to take responsibility for his choices and his actions. I do not feel sorry for this idot.

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    • mostly ignored
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 4:45am

      @ exiled – cops already pick and choose the laws they want to enforce. for example, here in nc, the missionary position is the only legal sexual position there is. everything else is sodomy and illegal in nc. that makes (i’m guessing) almost everyone in the state a sex offender. so they don’t pay any attention to that law. want another example? how about eric holder refusing to enforce voter intimidation laws against the nbpp? or fast and furious?

      one night years ago me and two friends had climbed up on top of a really tall stack of lumber in a lumber yard to get drunk (yea we were young and stupid). as we’re sittin up there carryin on a north carolina highway patrol car pulls into the yard. we assumed he was there to bust us and so we layed down on the lumber to hide. he wasn’t there for us. he drove around the yard to make sure nobody was there and parked. he then pulled out a bag of weed, rolled himself a joint, lit it, and drove away.

      and then there was the night we jumped off of the bridge into the lake. we hit the water 20-30 yards away from some guy fishing. man was he mad.. and drunk too. a park ranger saw us and called in a deputy to take us off to jail (havin too much fun i guess). as we’re being put into handcuffs the fisherman drives up and gets out of his truck cussin us. beer cans fall out onto the road at his feet. what do the cops do? tell him to pick up his beer cans and get back to his boat. they didn’t care that he was dri

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    • mostly ignored
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 5:33am

      @ exiled – and there was also the night that i found two of my friends parked in a car scared stiff out in the woods at the end of a dirt road (and keep in mind that these were older friends who professional loggers and weren’t scared of anything) i tried to talk to them and they just sat there. i told them i knew something had happened because they both looked like they had a run in with the devil. they both looked at me slowly and said, “we did” they then told me a story about how just two hours earlier they had went and picked up a pound of pot and they were driving back home when a deputy tried to pull them over. so they kept driving and started dumping pot out the window and only pulled over when it was all gone. the deputy runs up to the car with gun drawn and orders them out of the car. he then tells them how they‘re gonna pay for what they did and how he knows that it was them who robbed his grandfather’s pot patch!! now.. these friends of mine and the deputy just happened to have went to high school together and knew each other and so they started pleading with him and telling him that it wasn‘t them that stole his grandpa’s pot. we’ll see he says. he handcuffs them and puts them into his car and takes them to see his grandfather (at gunpoint) who tells him, no, you’ve got the wrong boys.

      ~continued~

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    • mostly ignored
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 5:44am

      ~continued~

      The deputy then apologizes and takes them back to their car. On the way they tell the deputy about dumping a pound of pot out the window because of him. So the deputy, feeling bad about what he had done, helped them pick up all the weed they could find. He then went on about his business like nothing ever happened. My two friends then drove out to the middle of nowhere and parked and tried to wrap their minds around what had just happened. And that’s where I found them.

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    • chips1
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 4:36pm

      MOSTLYIGNORANT:
      B.S. Nice Jules Verne type story!!!

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  • Charles321123
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:41am

    I know it’s wrong but I find this hilarious.

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    • commonsensefreethinker1
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:49am

      Hey just proves that there are better ways to get your point across other than walking into a building armed the hilt and opening fire. I consider them lucky , who knows what was going through his mind before he decided to choose this action.

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:29am

      And you know what, they will get brand new police cars and equipment, a brand new secure parking garage to park them in, complete with 24 hour guards and security system-all on the taxpayers dime. Wow, working for the govt is great isn’t it! (sarc)

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:34am

      @Mil-Dot,

      Ha. You know they’ve had that tank dog-eared in Jackboot Quarterly Shopping Catalog. Now they can make the case why they need to buy it.

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    • Meyvn
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 1:05pm

      It is wrong and so was Pion, but I cannot help laughing. Honestly, I do find it most humorous.

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  • Itsnakemo
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:37am

    Dufus, this does not hurt the law. It hurts the law abiding citizens who will have to come up with the cash to replace these vehicles!

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    • lordjosh
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:48am

      They don’t HAVE to replace them.

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    • Exiled
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:51am

      Deputies do a lot more than bust pot-users. Think of all the medical calls, DUI drivers, intruders, fires, etc that will have a delayed response until they get replacement cars.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:15am

      Exiled,

      Please. You mean how much more paperwork is going to be delayed. If you believe that cops are out on the bleeding edge of that stuff then I have a bridge I’ll sell you.

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:33am

      The federal government will simply print some more money to pay for them.

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    • Exiled
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:35am

      You’ve obviously never done a ride-along. Call up your Sheriff and ask if you can ride for 10 hours and then come back and let us know how it went. Who in the world do you think responds to all the rapes, burglaries, assaults, “child custody issues”, DUI’s, dead-deer-on-the-freeway, hit-and-run, sort of calls?

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:45am

      @exiled,

      Responds like in prevents or responds like in shows up after the crime is committed?

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    • Exiled
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:23am

      Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve, both. Go do a ride-along. Get back with me afterwards. While you’re at it, look up your state’s constitution and see what the responsibilities of the Sheriff are. You might be surprised.

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  • Exiled
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:34am

    I wonder how many crimes the Sheriff‘s Office wasn’t able to respond to because of this. He left his whole county without the Sheriff’s Department with his little stunt. Think of all the calls that were unable to be responded to. What if some kid had a bad guy in her house? How would he feel if somebody got killed because the deputies weren’t out there on the roads?

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    • lordjosh
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:47am

      Think of all the lonely donuts…..

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    • Exiled
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:49am

      Donuts would be city police. County Deputies don’t have time for such things.

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    • apbt55
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:17am

      Good, more opportunity for the people to experience the freedom of protecting themselves, which usually means less criminals around because they generally don’t survive to live off of taxpayers in those instances. Oh and most areas like this have volunteer ambulance corps and volunteer fire department that function off of donations and fundraisers.

      Freaking statist

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    • Exiled
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:39am

      Yes, volunteers medics and fire-fighters. In my county, the response time for the volunteers is almost 20 minutes. I‘m so glad if I’m having a heart-attack that none of those evil deputies are around to come give me CPR until the medics arrive.

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    • Exiled
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:40am

      apbt55, you must not understand what the county sheriff is. This is not a “statist” idea. Do you have ANY idea what the difference between a deputy and a city cop is?

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:49am

      Exiled,

      You must truly be exiled eh? Nobody else in your life to administer CPR? Completely by yourself waiting on a deputy to do it? I never would have thought you’d be in that boat. /sarc

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    • Exiled
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:24am

      Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve, some things are worth living out in the County for. Are you that certain that you or someone you love will never have to call 911?

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    • Individualism
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:37am

      Think of all the peaceful protests, lemonade stands and jaywalkers, omg, o well the pigs got a taste of their own medicine and i hope the jurors just say not guilty and let him off.

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    • Puddle Duck
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:03pm

      Wow we certainly see where the Paul bots stand with regards to the thankless jobs of law officers. For every bad cop there dozens of good ones…………I wonder how the Paul bots feel about the military ?

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 10:16am

      Thankless?

      Looks like plenty on the board would crawl a half a mile on broken glass just to hear a cop fart in a walkie talkie.

      Thankless?
      I’m sorry, I didn‘t realize that they weren’t paid or have pensions. You’d think that union they have would be better at that.

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  • Silversmith
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:29am

    What a pity. I feel bad about the choice he made here. Entertaining though it is; this will likely sink this poor soul.

    Silversmith

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  • JQCitizen
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:28am

    Yes, this is an example of a HERO to people who love POT more than BRAINS! If you are arrested, you can still go along quietly. I don’t think America is SO FAR GONE that we no longer have our ONE PHONE CALL, and DEFENSE LAWYERS! LOL!

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    • lordjosh
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:42am

      The worst thing you can do after being arrested for pot is to get a lawer. The lawer is an officer of the court who is there to help the state squeeze the revenue from you. Even if you hired him/her, they are not working in your best interest. Show me the victim!

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    • lordjosh
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:45am

      Also, “going along quietly” or remaining silent = consent. I’m not saying you assault the cop but you DO resist and protest the whole time if you know your not a sheep.

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  • SCREW-WINDOWS
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:27am

    I wonder if driving under the influance was involved and did they lay out the spike strips to stop him ?

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 2:31pm

      No they bum rushed him with body-armor clad SWAT goons with automatic weapons with helicopter gunship support overhead, drones, dogs, kitchen sinks, 50 goons with shotguns, threatened to shoot his dogs, pointed guns at his kids, etc. etc.

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  • biohazard23
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:24am

    Peon, indeed…..

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  • ColoradoMaverick
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:21am

    Who can blame him for being angry? He’s just a pee-on!

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  • lordjosh
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:18am

    The only crime I see was Roger getting arrested for pot possesion. Unfortunately, he didn’t help his cause much. But I much appreciate the sacrifice! Party on, dude!

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  • Your Name Here
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:16am

    It sounds like the farmer has done a little too much weed and has “smoked himself stupid.”

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  • Desert Dog
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:11am

    I wonder what his political views are?

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    • chips1
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 5:02pm

      If he was from Kenya, he would have smoked his hut and would now be homeless.

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:10am

    Sounds like he’s tired of being a peon.

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  • Necron99
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:09am

    Lmbo!

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  • crichton
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:08am

    It’s better to burn out than to fade away!!

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  • johnjamison
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:08am

    HOW ARE THEY GOING ARREST SOMEONE FOR RESISTING ARREST? If an office randomly grabbed someone and they fought back because they did nothing they are then guilty of resisting arrest …..WTF.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:38am

      I have two fellas that I know who are cops. So sample size of two…but, you ever notice how cops say “sir, stop resisting” while they are beating on a dude who is seemingly not resisting? It’s by design. It’s for the witnesses, cameras, etc. so that sheep like most on this board will say “gee the guy shouldn’t have been arrested”. They are essentially entering into the record that the guy was resisting without having to prove it by saying that nonsense. Again, sample size of two…but think about it and the videos that you’ve seen.

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    • Smokey_Bojangles
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 12:42pm

      The farmer is just another victim of the failed war on plants. Kinda admire the fellow for fighting back against the police state.

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  • randy
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:07am

    Obama Voter

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  • KeystoneState
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:05am

    This guys going to be a “Rock Star” in the Joint!

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    • johnjamison
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:14am

      Question is should this guy go to the “joint” he’s a patriot for standing up agaignt the UNCONSTITUTIONAL POLICE STATE create by the wannabe controler in the locasl state and federal governments. Laws are suppose to protect the citizens someone tell me how maraijuana laws protect anyone? No one rob,or steals for weed,no one go through withdrawls and sell there body for another pot fix,no one eats people faces off or jumps off buildings thinking they can fly on a bad weed trip…How are marijuana laws protecting us which is what the laws is suppose to be about.

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    • Exiled
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:31am

      Then he should have taken his issue up with the COURTS and the LEGISLATURE, not the Sheriff’s Office. The Sheriff, in this case, is nothing more than the grunt-labor doing the will of the court and the law-makers.

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    • rpp
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:51am

      @JohnJameson, I suppose you feel that way about Meth too, right? And what about the drug cartels, human traffickers, pimps, etc. Sure, doesn’t matter what people do, it should be legal.

      How exactly does what you propose protect anyone?

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:18am

      @RPP,

      I do. And there are no drug cartels in a legalized society. Look at all of the booze related gang violence. Oh wait, nevermind.

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    • Exiled
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:26am

      Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve: You don’t see the booze-related violence? Read your police blog. You’ll find that in almost every fight, every car-crash, every domestic dispute, etc, that booze is related. (I’m not a fan of banning it though.)

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    • johnjamison
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:30am

      RRP,
      comparing marijuana to meth is comparing a bb gun to tank. Please show me all the victims of marijuana addiction. As for meth people are overdosing everyday,people are robbing people everyday,people are dying everyday,people are becoming mentally unstable everyday because of meth.
      The only power marijuana dealers have is the fact it‘s illegal in a legalized society there’s nobig profit in cannabis there would be no need for dealers,as everyone could grow their own,and legal shops could sell the products which would also be cheap as growers would have compettion from every direction.
      I’m 100% behind outlaws abusive substances that damage not only the user but society as well. There is absolutely no proof of weed doing that other than the claim it’s a gate way drug….The only reason its a gate way drug is when you go to your illegal pot dealer you also come into contact with the illegal coke,meth,e,and h dealer as well.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:20am

      @Exiled,

      I should have been more verbose. I was addressing the drug cartel issue and pointing out that there is no longer organized crime around booze.

      But since you brought it up, perhaps we should ban booze to prevent that violence you speak of. We’ve never tried that before…it will probably work. /sarc

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    • Exiled
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 1:32am

      Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve; Actually, no, I don’t think booze should be banned (I’m pretty sure I said that in the post). Actually, I’m all for legalizing most things. My complaint is with HOW some people are trying to make their point. Drive over cop cars? Really? This kind of juvenile behavior certainly doesn’t help his cause – if it is, indeed, his “cause”. I don’t think it was. I think he was just being an idiot, and people are reading too much into his motivations.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 10:21am

      @exiled,

      After all that I think we found common ground. Yeah, he was probably just an a-hole. You’d like to believe that he was making some sort of stand against what he thought was tyranny…but we all know he wasn’t.

      I found the topic highly useful to engage in what I think was an outstanding public debate…that had nothing to do with tweaked farmers on tractors. :-) Like most things, if you just look at the event there isn’t much to talk about. What I find interesting is the reactions people have and how incongruent it often is to what we believe to be liberty or freedom. Truth is that those cops didn’t deserve that for what they did. It’s minor. BUT, when you extrapolate this it makes for a great philosophical debate about what is freedom and what is the role of the police and as freedom wanes what side are the cops on and what exactly is everyone’s “line” that would make you drive a tractor over a cop car? This story was just a nice launching pad.

      Take care dude, hope you enjoy the debate and don’t take things too personal.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 10:30am

      —sorry, one interesting note on this idea of philosophical debate.

      In a different conversation regarding a similar police role (NYPD story) I had an exchange with a Marine who I think may have been a cop. He laced into me about how I don’t know the statutes, and this that and the other. Fine. But I kept trying to get past that and get him to commit to what his role/responsibility is. At one point he says that he‘d disarm civilians if that were the local law and that it’s up to us to change that ordinace/law.

      Whoa…stunned silence…like when Col. Jessup admitted to ordering the code red.

      A marine who swore an oath to defend the constitution would disarm a citizen if a city/county/state said that they were outlawing guns. WOW.

      I think pushing this debate within the framework of these stories can really be an eye-opener for people who are asleep at the wheel. When push comes to shove (sunstien) what will the cops do? Kinda scary I think.

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  • watashbuddyfriend
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:05am

    If ‘PEE on’ is the guilty one, wonder if his insurance will cover the damages? I mean the policyholders!

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    • ColoradoMaverick
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:23am

      Intentional acts are normally not covered and he probably has no insurance anyway.

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    • chips1
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 5:08pm

      He’s a liberal, so all he has to do is apologize and he will be forgiven.

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