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Here Are 6 New Facts You Need to Know About the Abused Bus Driver Incident

Bus Monitor Karen Klein Comments on Kids Apologies & the Ongoing Controversy

Karen Klein

As outrage continues over video footage showing a bus monitor from Greece, New York, being abused by middle school children, the kids at the center of the controversy are speaking out. On Thursday night, CNN’s Anderson Cooper read official statements from the children that purportedly showcased their remorse — apologies that victim Karen Klein flatly rejected.

(Related: Beck Slams Horrific Video of Children Abusing Bus Driver: ‘The Kids in This Video Are Dead Inside’)

(1) These apologies are an interesting, new element in the bizarre incident that has attracted mass attention and support for Klein. The Huffington Post provides a recap of the comments that were released to CNN and read on the air to Klein last night:

“I feel really bad about what I did,” [Weslie], one of the boys in the video, said in a statement issued to the show by police. “I wish I had never done those things. If that had happened to someone in my family, like my mother or grandmother, I would be really mad at the people who did that to them.”

“I am so sorry for the way I treated you,” Josh, another one of the boys, said in a statement. “When I saw the video I was disgusted and could not believe I did that. I am sorry for being so mean and I will never treat anyone this way again.”

After hearing Josh’s statement, Klein declined to accept his apology and noted that he is a troublemaker who regularly makes problems. She also rejected Weslie’s comments as well, going on to say that she’s still waiting for official apologies from the four children involved in the abusive incident. So far, not one of the boys has approached her or reached out. Admittedly, Klein says she may need more time before seeing them face-to-face.

Watch the CNN interview during which these issues are discussed, below:

While the kids have been quiet, at least one of the parents has come forward to comment. On Thursday, Robert Helm, Weslie’s father, spoke to “Inside Edition,” where he expressed surprise at his child’s ability to act out so horrendously toward the 68-year-old grandmother of eight.

“It was very hard to watch that and even tougher as a father to see your child treat someone like that. It broke my heart,” Helm said, going on to highlight the punishment that his son will receive. ”It‘s not just going to stop at ’You’re grounded, you don’t get TV.’ This is much bigger than that. This is something for a professional to interview Weslie and find out what the underlining problem is.”

(Related: Scam? Bullied Bus Monitor’s Fundraiser Tries Fundraising For Himself)

However, (2) Helm has also said that his child has suffered enough. Considering the intense controversy and resulting media coverage, he believes that the situation has gone too far.

“My family’s received death threats. He’s a 13-year-old kid,” he said. “It was a stupid mistake and he’s paying for it but I just think it’s a little out of control.”

Bus Monitor Karen Klein Comments on Kids Apologies & the Ongoing Controversy

Some agree with Helm, while others remain discontented — some to profoundly extreme levels — with what was observed on the video. The Greece Public School District and the families, alike, continue to receive threats. The Democrat & Chronicle recapped the details surrounding just how intense the response has been to the children and families at the center of the incident (emphasis added):

The names of some of the alleged perpetrators — all juveniles who have yet to be charged with any crimes — and their parents and details about where they live ended up online. And since Wednesday, they’ve been barraged by death threats and harassing phone calls.

Greece police Capt. Steve Chatterton said Thursday that (3) someone even made a false 911 call claiming there were people being held hostage inside one of the students’ homes. He said officers have been assigned to run special patrols down the youths’ streets to ensure their safety.

“We have a cellphone of one of the boys and he’s received more than 1,000 missed calls and more than 1,000 text messages threatening him,” he said. “Threats to overcome threats do no good.”

One woman even claims that her son has been falsely accused of assaulting Klein (her child doesn’t even ride the bus that the incident occurred on). As a result, he has been harassed on Facebook and has also received death threats. Klein has called for the counter-harassment to stop and has expressed her sadness in knowing that the kids at the center of the dispute are receiving such harsh treatment from the public.

During her interview with Cooper, (4) Klein also expressed doubt surrounding the massive sum of money being collected in her name. Currently, the number is approaching $500,000 (as of 9:40 a.m. ET on Friday it was at $471,216).

Bus Monitor Karen Klein Comments on Kids Apologies & the Ongoing Controversy

“I can’t believe it. That much?,” she rhetorically asked Cooper. “I don’t know, I just don‘t feel like it’ll come to me anyway, so I don’t think too much about it. It’s a nice gesture, but I just don‘t know if it’s for real or not.”

While Klein can’t quite be sure of the authenticity of the money that is slated to come to her (last night, The Blaze delved into this issue as well), (5) she’s headed to Disneyland — and that’s a fact. Cooper told the elderly woman that Southwest Airlines will be sending her and nine others to the destination, located in Anaheim, California.

As far as punishment for the boys goes, while Klein says she isn’t sure about criminal charges, she has indicated that she will not file them and that she would rather see the children punished in different ways. While the district hasn’t yet announced how officials will handle the situation, (6) Klein would like to see the children lose the ability to ride the bus and play sports for a year. She also talked about the potential of community service as an option for the boys.

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  • jungle J
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:45am

    Eveyone involved is“hustling” to one degree or another…..the hustle became legitimate when Obama hustled his way into the whitehouse…the sane understand hustlers….we are surrounded by them….

     
    • Hope07
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 2:41pm

      Add your comments

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    • Hope07
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 2:41pm

      Test

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    • glennpatstu
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 2:48pm

      oh- so this is Obama’s fault too? makes sense, more rational thinking from Glenn’s sheep.

       
    • ubuibi
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 3:08pm

      @GlennPatStu…..yep some repubs are alot like the sheep that follow Oblamo…..anything that happens with this admin, solyndra, fast and furious, the economy…..all bush’s fault according to the sheeple that follow obungler, so yes they now will begin blaming obama mugabe for the fact that children now have no common decency, have no morals, no ethics, (actually had a kid 16 yr old ask what morals and ethics are). obamagimmie leads by example, he has no morals, no ethics, and definitely no character.!!!

       
    • Stimy
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 3:16pm

      Funny, coming from Obama’s sheep

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    • toto
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 3:21pm

      UBUIBI, perfect analysis. Please spend some time on Huffpo, they need to hear from more of us over there. Obama Zombies reign there. We need to become as incessant and relentless as they are although it is contrary to the conservative nature.

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    • DisgruntledInClinton
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 3:43pm

      Throw them all into juvie. They’re well on their way to a life of bullying, torture, and probably worse crimes. These parents are all, obviously, failures.

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    • objectivetruth
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 3:58pm

      You got that right.

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    • HKS
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 4:14pm

      Me generation kids, it’s all about me. That came from their parents.

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    • Xcori8r
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 4:32pm

      Eddie Haskel comes to mind.

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    • TexasHunter
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 5:06pm

      There is only one fact that we need to know.
      GOD BLESS THIS LADY.

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 5:46pm

      As we see this kind of behavior more and more (senseless violence), we need to be thinking of how we will protect ourselves if we allow this government to take our guns away at the behest of the UN.
      Even the thought of that happening cannot stand.

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    • paulnashtn
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 6:48pm

      oh- so this is Obama’s fault too? makes sense, more rational thinking from Glenn’s sheep.
      Actually if your grand pooba can blame everything on Bush, turn about is fair play HeHeHeHe

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    • Steel
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 8:12pm

      Well, look. Obama has set about to divide this country. He has done so. Some (not all) youths are simply following his lead. Here‘s what has happened under obama’s “leadership”. Blacks against whites. Democrats against Republicans. Liberals against Conservatives. Atheists against Christians. Protestants against Catholics. And finally, young against the old and the mentally challenged. It’s an epidemic infecting American society. Absolutely no doubt about it. The mood obama and his politics has created affects everyone; requires them to takes sides; causes anger and hatred one against the other. So, Yes, obama should shoulder his share of the human condition we all face today. These kids are nothing more than a reflection of their parents’ thoughts and attitudes. So they must take their share of the consequences as well. Nothing can be more discouraging, but perhaps this incident will cause parents to take a good long look at themselves and their own behavior and modify to provide better models for their children. Still, these kids need to lose their bus and sports privileges. They should attend courtesy classes after school, and get counseling to find the deeper causes of their hatred. Public service in nursing homes and agencies that provide services for the aged and disabled should be leveled at them as well. That makes both the children AND their parents suffer the consequences of their actions.

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    • wayner4162
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 10:00pm

      This is just one incident, on one school bus, in the US. Can you imagine how many more throughout the country happen, daily? Let’s see, what could be causing these kids to behave in this way, my best guess is a country of adults who for the most part have turned their back to GOD, rampant divorce, same sex marriage , open homosexuality, rampant promiscuous sex, multiple partners before the age of 16 in most cases, pornography in the checkout line, hip hop filth music, tattoo’s, drugs, drugs, drugs, alcohol, rape, murder, out of control gangs, single parent homes where the parent works and the state educational system raises the child, the public school system and perverted teachers being charged with taking advantage of students, most of these teachers are females,to their shame, but they have none, and the list goes on and on, is it any surprise really that these kids behave like this, they are, after all, exposed to all of the above in one way or another and they learn fast, to bad, so if the real trouble is all of the above, what is to be done? Do we trust in mans wisdom to right this behavior? That’s what got us where we are!! But wait! anyone who these day‘s say’s that we need to turn to GOD is mocked, demonized, marginalized and made an outcast from society by those who hate Christianity, GOD is right to say men love darkness rather than light because their deeds are evil. But, it is Christianity alone that will turn our nation around, but I believe it is to late.

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    • PreacherNorm
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 10:25pm

      The reason violent crime, drug abuse, sexual promiscuity, and just about every other form of immorality is increasing among our kids is because this country has lost its connection with God. It has been on the rise since the Bible was removed from the schools in 1964. This is the natural progression of our kids being raised by people who teach them they are just a higher form of animal, that there is nothing special about human life, that nature and animal life is even more important than human life.

      These kids spend eight hours every day in public schools, where nothing that even comes close to the Bible is allowed. Then they spend another four to six hours with violent video games and sexually explicit TV shows. They will spend maybe an hour with some sort of minimal contact with their parents. And people wonder why they act the way they do. Get a grip folks and raise your kids!

      20, 30, 50 years ago, these kids wouldn’t have acted like this because they would have known the lady would have gotten up and knocked their head around backwards. And when they got home they would have gotten it again from their parents. This kind of thing happens now because the kids know they can’t be touched. They know that if an adult actually does anything to correct them, the adult will get in trouble, not them. They know that even if their parents take a belt to them that they can call the cops and get their parents in trouble. Its because the State has taken possession of our kids.

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    • radargeek
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 10:26pm

      I‘d beat these kids parents too and a o’stupid supporter to boot!

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    • rangerp
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:11am

      from one of the kids father “This is something for a professional to interview Weslie and find out what the underlining problem is.”

      Really??? Thus the problem. In the not so long ago past, dad would not be saying junior needs professional help, he would have taken of a belt, and taken hide from junior’s butt.

      This whole thing is broke from the top down.

      Why do we need bus monitors? Did not have them when I was a kid going to a Christian school. Bus driver told you what to do, and you did it, or he would spank you, then you went home, and dad tore your butt out of the frame.

      We got rid of discipline, and kids are not expected to behave, thus the need for the monitor.

      Why is this lady a monitor? She monitored bad behavior, and she is neither equipped to handle it, nor is she capable. She sat there and cried, and let the tail wag the dog. She may be a nice lady, but she is a waste of tax payer dollars.

      Kick the little bastards off the bus, and let mommy and daddy drive them to school for the rest of the year, and see if Dad might get motivated to make them mind next year.

      We got rid of the bible in school, got rid of discipline, our schools are more into multicultural education and liberal indoctrinations.

      Get the school out of the hands of the federal gov, and get parents back in charge of schools and back in charge of their bratty little jackass kids.

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    • christos
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:27am

      To PREACHERNORM — I totally agree with your perfect post.

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    • db321
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:05am

      I have a Question? In the 60‘s Atheist kicked God out of our schools and kids today don’t think they will be held accountable if they don’t get caught. My question is since it happened in School is God off limits to hold these kids accountable on judgement day.

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    • SovereignSoul
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:51am

      How did my wife and I ever raise a pediatrician, an attorney and a Marine Corps pilot without beating them? Apparently, we did things all wrong.

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    • DaveCCC
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 7:56am

      ubuibi, you forgot to add that Obama has no honor or integrity either.

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    • sandrarama
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 8:25am

      I am about as anti-Obama as one could be, but I don’t see this story as political. It’s about mean kids who need to be reined in by their parents before this escalates into something even worse. I hope Karen and her family have a wonderful time and that she never needs to work again.

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    • SocialistSlayer
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 8:28am

      I’d Punish them by making them spend the whole summer cleaning toilets at the Obama white house – with all that stink coming out that will teach them!

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    • davidlee
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:28am

      People wonder why children act like this, just read the comments on this site. From the top down there is no respect for the president of the United States. That is just the start. The shere ignorance and believing all the misinformation that is feed to you folks is unfortunate. If someone doesn’t agree with you they are a lot of things,none good. My opinion is just as valuable to me as your’s is to you. It is sickening to see what is happening to adults that follow this junk. You need to worry about yourself instead instead of these children. These children are a bi product of the culture of hate and disrespect spread daily by all these right wing nut cases.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:14pm

      davidlee

      Are you really that stupid?

      We have only had this president for less than four years. To say kids today are undisciplined and heathen because right wing people do not respect the president is just asinine.

      Conservatives do not respect Marxism, socialism, communism, black liberation theology, mandated health care, people that hang out with known terrorists, apologizing to the world, take over of GM…..

      You might want to do a little history check. When the libs took over our school systems, is when we lost discipline and went down hill quick. Study school crime, and you will see it spike just after we replaced creation with evolution. In the 50s the number one complaint of teachers was kids that would talk in class. Look where we are now. The multicultural education aint working Dave. We used to be top in the world in math and science, now we are about half way down the list.

      If you want people to respect the president, then vote for one that is respectable.

      Until then, try not to say such stupid things in open forum. You look like a fool.

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    • Jgrnot
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:30pm

      Obama is trying to fgure out how he can get this ladies money for his campaign.

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    • I support God's Israel!
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 2:37pm

      “I feel really bad about what I did,” [Weslie], one of the boys in the video, said in a statement issued to the show by police.

      Right……….. he got caught, that’s all. DID HE COME FORWARD ALL BY HIMSELF TO APOLOGIZE?

      There’s a difference.

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    • survivorseed
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 8:41pm

      I bet every person here did something stupid as a teenager that they look back on and are not proud of. The only difference today is technology makes a stupid teenage mistake an opportunity for the whole world to judge their character, their family life and their parents ability to raise them.

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    • jabatten
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:19pm

      not Ubama’s fault….it‘s his mother’s fault for not keeping her slutty legs closed while she was down with jungle fever!

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  • Smythy
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:45am

    We have seen similar behavior by students on buses numerous times. The pattern seems to be that when the outlandish behavior gets reported to the school administrators, they do nothing and close ranks around the young future Progressives and Occupiers they are indoctrinating from K through 12. The state of public education in America today (and let’s not forget the horrific parenting) is disgusting and does not bode well for our future. With the wolf pack attack mentality of too many of our students, they are better suited to a “Mad Max” type of existence. We have ourselves to blame to allow it to “Progress(ive)” to this point. Dear Leader has issued his marching orders with his current campaign slogan, FORWARD… to oblivion, it seems.

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    • PROSECUTE_PUBLIC_SERVANTS__FOR_CONSTITUTIONAL_TREASON
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 12:41pm

      Fathers in America do not train their children. Most dads are at fault. The family lives a life of little dad time. On the other hand dad is busy trying to make dreams come true and pay for houses, cars, and education enslaved to banker interest and on top of this gov. tax payments that take most of the fruits of his labor. This is just wrong. Dads should settle for less, spend more time with their children, teach their children who God is, and give up the big bank payments while lowering their taxe bill.
      Our society is on course to fail. Just a matter of time. Churches are empty, kids are taught mostly by the marxist public school system, and parents are busy providing material wishes and are never satisfied. It’s sad and dads are at fault as leaders of the family. Dad’s have failed and society will
      collapse in time. WAKE UP DADS. The dads of these kids should be beaten along with the kids.

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    • Atrum Angelis
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 1:21pm

      That’s exactly what I did.
      I was working as a geologist until my wife and I found out we were having a baby. As a geologist, I worked 12-14 hour days, for 21 days straight followed by 7 days off. And that was if I was working near home. Sometimes, I had to fly out to remote sites and wouldn’t be home for those 21 days.
      I was paid very well ($100K+/year, however most of that was spent of necessities because the town we lived in supported the oil fields and was remote, and everyone was paid well, so everything was expensive). However, I wanted to be home and spend time with my little girl. So, before she was born I went back to school, changed careers and got a job as a system administrator in the city. I make significantly less, however, I actually bring more home now and live better and happier and get to spend time with my new daughter.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 1:24pm

      Removing the ability of adults, teachers, monitors, chaperones… to punish children in schools will give you this result every time. Who didn‘t know the outcome of the policies presented by our ignorant educational establishment in the 70’s?

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    • jhrusky
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 1:31pm

      @ prosecute_public_servants_for_constitutiona

      No, the dads should not be beat. That is ludicrous. You most likely purport to follow the Constitution of the United States of America as well as the Bill of Rights, yet you want to see the dads punished before they are even tried! That is hypocritical, plain and simple.

      Some fathers are not good fathers, but you cannot label everyone as not good due to the actions of some. Have we not learned that yet? Bad behavior does not warrant more bad behavior yet that is what you are wanting to have happen.

      As I have repeatedly stated to deaf ears, these kids need punishment. Bad parents need something, but I don’t know what you can do to those bad parents — spank them? Go beat them up? Who decides whom is a bad parent and who is not? Do you have a bad parent patrol? Do you put a video cameras in their home and watch their every move?

      It’s a travesty that we have so many broken homes today, and that certainly is part of the cause, but not all. There are dysfunctional homes as well, but again, who decides what is and is not dysfunctional? I think your family is dysfunctional if you preach the golden rule but do not follow it yourself. How many families (including some of you reading this) teach good to your children, but don’t always live that way? You do realize your children are watching you, don’t you?

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    • jhrusky
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 1:38pm

      @ the_jerk

      “Removing the ability of adults, teachers, monitors, chaperones… to punish children in schools will give you this result every time.”

      I would agree with you to a point, but how do we ensure abuse is not happening (and what is abuse or how does that vary with each of our thoughts)? When I was in school in the 70s, I had 2 paddlings from my teacher with a wooden paddle (and he had one heck of an arm, too). I learned after the 2nd time and that was not abuse. BUT … allowing others to paddle children very well could result in abuse to the child and that is the problem. What is abuse to me may not be to you. It may be ok in your mind to punch your child in the mouth for swearing, but others would be against that. Some parents believe paddling is wrong and actually do turn out pretty good children by other means of punishment. So, how do we decide what punishments can be done?
      Detensions, suspensions, writing essays, public apologies, community service — I think a case could be pretty easily made that those are allowable by pretty much everyone (and some idiot would want to sue over them, but we have to ensure he/she loses). There are not easy answers here. I know, I know, some think they will beat their children bloody and that will teach them, but in reality, all that teaches them is how to hide their actions better. I do not believe any person respects another for being able to beat them up.

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    • Independent4233
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 1:43pm

      What these brats did was absolutely horrible, and they AND their parents should be punished. It’sreally inexcusable.

      But isn’t it interesting that these little hoodlums were given national exposure by the MSM when literally thousands of incidents where black kids at not just verbally attacking people but physically beating them are ignored by the same media?

      If these kids were black, I seriously doubt the MSM would EVER consider exposing their misconduct.

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    • jhrusky
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 2:10pm

      @ independent4233

      “What these brats did was absolutely horrible, and they AND their parents should be punished. It’sreally inexcusable.”

      What they did was terrible, yes.
      But guilt by association is wrong, plain and simple. If the parent is guilty, then they should be punished, but should we not first prove the parent guilty? It’s just continual over this issue — people want to condemn a parent for their children’s actions. Prove it‘s the parent’s fault and then we’ll be in agreement. Prior to that proof, it’s just wrong to want them guilty and punished. I hope your morals truly don‘t want to punish people before they’re proven guilty because that is certainly not following the golden rule and it’s a terrible action for children to see and eventually, mimic.

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    • charleyrocks
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 2:12pm

      One thing I did see, on the original video, and that was when she entered the bus she ordered a kid to get out of his seat and she took it. Hmmm it has been censored, there has to be respect on the adults side as well !!!!!!!

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    • toto
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 2:50pm

      The complete breakdown of decorum, the vilifying of anyone who supports standards of civility with penalties that enforce and require good behavior rather than the ***** feel good, no one can be made to feel shame, attitudes, has set our country into a death spiral. Then you can talk about economics. Following the same irrational, non productive path. Makes me wish I’d been born into the insulated Amish community.

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    • toto
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 2:55pm

      ATRUM: :) Hope you and your family live happily ever after. Wish others that do not choose family over the dollar, would realize the cost of their choices before it’s too late. Poverty is of the mind, not the pocketbook.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 4:42pm

      @JRHusky
      “guilt by association is wrong, plain and simple. If the parent is guilty, then they should be punished, but should we not first prove the parent guilty?”
      ————————————
      Since the Carter Administration created the Dept. of Education, the quality of education in our schools has spiral led downward. The social experiments started, such as “everybody wins, no one loses, because it will hurt their self-esteem.” It has gotten worse and to the point that there is no effective punishment anymore. Parents are responsible for their children until they become adults, of course the parents are partly to blame. No one has to prove the parent is guilty, because it is their child, they are responsible. No one can see into these two boy‘s hearts and know that their apologies weren’t heart-felt, however, this woman KNOWS the boys, we don’t. The father SOUNDED truly horrified that his son would behave this way. The non-apologies from the other children speaks volumes about those kid’s families.

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    • jhrusky
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 5:25pm

      @ anonymous t. irrelevant

      I do agree with you that silence by the other fathers most likely speaks volumes. Of course, there is the possibility they are wary of making any statement due to the craziness in this country of lawsuits for virtually anything, including speech. They must have some responsibility no matter what as these are their children, but we should beat their heads in? That is extreme. No matter how bad this was, 2 wrongs do not make a right, ever. A parent guilty because it was their kid is different than a parent guilty because they taught their kid to be a greedy, selfish sob. We MUST not allow our emotions to rule … we must not become “the enemy”.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 6:01pm

      @JR
      I am not saying we “beat” these kids, but re-instituting corporal punishment, I think, would help the schools with the rowdiness that goes on. Of course, there are some problem children that nothing will help, but just as people, who get comfortable in their poverty will never get up and find work, children, comfortable in the knowledge that there will be no consequences to their actions will never change. Of course, it all begins at home. I think we agree, more than disagree, with each other.

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    • nuthrdumkinsrvativ
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 8:23pm

      The circle of blame is vicious: The kids wouldn’t behave like this if the bus drivers would report it, the administrators would respond to the reports, the teachers would not tolerate this type of behavior in school, the parents would not tolerate this behavior at home, the entertainment industry would not portray this behavior as acceptable and normal, etc. But none of these happen in a vacuum. Teachers often blame parents for problem children, but, those parents who see nothing wrong with the behavior learned that from their teachers and those parents who wish to hold a strick line with their children are undermined by the teachers. (I know this first hand).
      The cure requires us all to support each other on upholding standards. This first requires standing against indentity blame: “We”, “American”, “Whites” did not practice and support slavery: some did, some did not, some worked hard to end it. No individual bad behavior or good behavior defines a group.
      In this case, I hope Karen Klein can use the funds collected to establish or support an organization that helps children develop character.

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    • christos
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:08am

      To JHRUSKY – Go To The Back Of The BUS And Shush Up,,,COWARD,,,the jails are full of grown up kids who were not disciplined,,,these Parents sticking up for and acting surprised about their Spoiled Rotten Kids are COWARDS,,,Grow Reason your time would be better spent POOF….

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    • jhrusky
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:26am

      @ christos

      I speak up, and I am a coward in your eyes? Must suck to be you.

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    • jhrusky
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:35am

      @ christos

      Actually, now that I think about it, you’re pretty much similar to the kids in this video. You see some people that disagree with this JHRUSKY person, so you’re going to have some fun and toss in a lick, too! You are in no danger because you’re hiding behind your computer screen, so you think up the best insult you can to join in … the herd mentality syndrome … and muster your “Go To The Back Of The BUS And Shush Up,,,COWARD”! Wow! You got me, didn’t you! You must really feel like a super-intelligent person. I’ll bet movie offers are going to start rolling in soon. Did you get this to post on youtube somehow so you can get your 15 minutes?

      If you want to debate the merits of this discussion, try keeping the personal attacks to yourself and say something intelligent.

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    • christos
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:35am

      To JHRUSKY — Your words are +GOD+ Less spawned from ignorance that come from the bottomless pit of the abyss,..Your still a COWARD—TROLL about.

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    • jhrusky
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 8:40am

      @ christos

      “To JHRUSKY — Your words are +GOD+ Less spawned from ignorance that come from the bottomless pit of the abyss,..Your still a COWARD—TROLL about.”

      My words are Godless? You can tell that because I don’t think children should be beat nor their parents? It’d be more Godlike to beat kids? That’s what God would do? Whom is this god-person you speak of? My God is loving, kind, forgiving, caring. Why does yours apparently hate so much? Why is he so mean and cruel?

      You know what? Cowards don’t stand up and oppose most others. Cowards go along with the flow … along with the herd because that’s so much easier, less scary, safer. You really need to find a way to take a step back, evaluate yourself and see whom the coward might be. The first step to fixing any issue is admitting there might be one.

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    • jhrusky
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 8:50am

      @ anonymous t. irrelevant

      “I am not saying we “beat” these kids, but re-instituting corporal punishment, I think, would help the schools with the rowdiness that goes on.”

      I totally agree with you. I’ve had the paddle in middle school 2 times and it did teach me to straighten up there. I think we got away from the paddle due to some (probably a few, but some nonetheless) abusing kids with it. Then, of course, is the issue that some parents do not believe in paddling, but use other forms of punishment like taking away important items to the child, grounding, manual labor, and some of these parents do well and teach their children right from wrong (others are poor, no doubt). Since as a society we tend to say the parents knows best how to punish their own children (or we used to anyways), how do we allow a specific kind of punishment in school for our children? Some real issues on this pop up and it gets difficult.

      Now, we certainly need to ensure just punishments of some sort … there is no question about that. On this issue as others have stated, good, long, hard community service would be appropriate along with detention, suspension for a week or so, suspension from bus riding privileges for some amount of time, meetings with child and parents one on one, NOT as a group, long, essays written about manners, treating others, the golden rule. We can certainly punish without beating, expelling, locking in a basement, or worse.

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    • christos
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 5:49pm

      To JHRUSKY – .Spare the Rod Spoil the Child,,,in the Bible.

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  • lala76
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:42am

    To the father of the brat, who thinks this “has gone too far”. NOT HARDLY!!! How about making your kid actually apologize. I mean a REAL apology… face to face, looking her in the eye, and respectfully owning up to his actions. Otherwise, you are doing NOTHING to prevent this from happening again, or probably much worse!

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    • HowardSternIsABigot
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 12:00pm

      A little community service would do some good as a start. Sounds like the dad is a pr person for holder.. look forward, he stopped doing it after hegot caught, he felt bad when shown the video evidence… yup.. future progressives in training.

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    • The_Pointy_End
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 12:10pm

      A bad tree (parents) do not produce good fruit (kids)! Yes, I know there are exceptions! These parents will not use this as a time to reflect on their parenting or lack thereof. In the article, their actions show that they just want it to go away. Nothing to see here…..move along.

      I would bet money that apology was not even written by the kid. Mom and Dad wrote it.

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    • Rijjka
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 12:46pm

      Really? You don’t think death threats is taking it a bit far? I mean in my ideal world, death threats is always taking it too far. I’m just calling a spade a spade here, but that is wrong.

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    • HKS
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 1:04pm

      On a positive note, she doesn‘t have to ever worry about looking after someone else’s brats for the rest of her life if she chooses to do so. Maybe the big guy really does work in mysterious ways.

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    • mils
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 1:15pm

      a little community service..about 1000 hours..starting with doing for karen..mowing the lawn, trash, raking leaves,washing walls at the community center …
      dad is taking up for the son..
      and i agree with karen..no riding the bus and no sports for a year..

      This behavior had to come from somewhere…I hear Leno make fun of fat people all the time..it’s in our culture..unfortunately….
      Karen was also wrongwrongwrong in not loding a complaint with someone..anyone…i suppose she was too afraid of losing her job and she would have probably been blamed..

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    • Crazyotto
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 1:18pm

      These are typical self absorbed children without a shred of human decency. The were never given any knoweldge of compassion or empathy by their parents.. I think it is funny that they believe they are getting clobbered in the press. They are evil children who are the products of selfish and self indulgent parents. They should expect the worst. I sincerely doubt they are getting legitimate death threats nonetheless. I think it is a cynical ploy to get sympathy which makes me dislike them all the more.

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    • toto
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 3:17pm

      These kids need to apologize to this woman in a face to face encounter. The voyeurs should butt out. While glad it has been publicized, needed to be, threatening the kids lives is not productive, or teaching anywhere close to the right lessons. These kids ought to also be indentured to her for a year, helping her as needed around her home. But all this needs to come from the boys families and needs to between just between the parties involved. If no acceptable remedy is forthcoming, as to be determined by Klein herself, then more public discussion should happen. But as for laws and charges being brought, you cannot legislate good manners or prevent cruelty. The best solution is to have these kids come understand in the depth of their souls how despicable their behavior was, then they will likely not repeat such unkindness, and be more likely to put a stop to it when they witness it. “Community service” is too impersonal for this situation, seriously doubt it would have the desired impact. Endless meetings and bullying conferences don’t hold a candle to the simple “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” which has been ripped from the public square and our schools in the name of tolerance and diversity. The removal of Judeo Christian values has had a devastating effect on the moral values and behavior in our schools. It’s a tragedy.

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  • Hickory
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:41am

    Face it;, these kids have been getting away with stuff like this all along. My oldest did something like this at this age. I beat the crap out of him and then took him to the person face to face to apologize. He then, had to do something nice for them……….. over and over. He is a grown man now and has told me several times that he knew better but when I really doubled down on him, he knew that he would never do this again. When he had to face the person, he cried and they did too. To this day, he dearly loves that person. The lesson was that because he made them suffer, he had to suffer also to redeem himself. It worked.

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    • lala76
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:52am

      Great fathers create great men. I cried when apologizing to the store manager for stealing a pack of bubble gum that my mom wouldn’t buy for me. I had to look him in the eye, hand it back, and apologize. I will never forget that, and admire my parents for holding me to that standard.

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    • hotmomma
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 12:02pm

      Good for you, we don’t hear enough good parenting like that anymore. :)

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    • Paul G
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 3:53pm

      40 some years ago, I came home with a pack of baseball cards from our local drug store (I think they were a dime back then) My mother asked where I got the dime. I said I found it. She knew better. That night when my dad got home….He marched me right back down there and made me apologize, I was ‘banned’ for a month…..and I couldn’t sit down for 2 months.

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  • RodT82721
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:30am

    Why are so many so surprised at what his video puts on display?
    First, just what was the purpose of putting this elderly lady on that bus? I mean really, did they think just having someone sitting there would solve their problems? Her job is punching bag!

    Then how many don’t understand that our children are nothing but wild animals? We don’t spend billions to send them to school from age 5 to 18, just to keep them busy! They need a lot of training. Most are nothing but feral animals. We used to understand that.

    The first thing progressives removed from public schools was discipline. Then morality and finally any mention of our Heritage.
    Replaced it with love of unions, feeling good and the gay life style. So now we are surprised when our kids have no respect for anyone? They are having sex in grade school and spit on the flag.

    Barrack Hussian Obama, mmm, mmm, mmm!

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    • merlinstar88
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:44am

      I agree with your statements. Children today have no respect for anyone; however, if one watches the entire video, she flips the bird to the children, does make snide remarks back and, certainly, isn’t doing the job she was PAID to do. Looking out the window is not monitoring. As to the funds raised, she doesn’t deserve a penny or the attention. Many senior citizens are struggling with medical bills, long term illness and making do on their limited income or grievng over their lost retirement investments. Where are all the do gooders to help these folks. Discipline the children and teach them respect. She gets no sympathy from me.

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    • MOLLYPITCHER
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:54am

      Spankings are still allowed at my kids school. It’s called My Kitchen Table. My kids have never been to school away from home. When my son, who is 8, saw this when I was watching the news this morning, he was shocked and said ‘Mama, their making fun of that lady because of how she looks.” He was quite bothered. Am I sheltering my kids? YOU BET!!!! As Glenn said in the earlier video- if this is socialization, then I don’t want my kids socialized

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:58am

      I, for one, certainly “don’t understand that our children are nothing but wild animals.” Children are an heritage of the Lord; and the fruit of the womb is his reward. Psalms 127. Some may think that a baby is “punishment”, but my children have been a wonderful blessing to me and my wife.
      As regards your critique of schools: it never was the schools job to “train” children in morals — that is the baliwick of the family and church. What schools used to do, however, was to reinforce the instruction that children got at home and at church. Now schools are working at cross-purposes to home and church.

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    • hatchetjob
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 12:01pm

      RODT82721, Very awesome comment!

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    • normalmom
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 12:06pm

      merlinstar89…You are right she isn’t doing her job. (I am an attendant on a school bus) However the driver isn’t doing their part either. The driver should have stopped the bus and helped her even if it means waiting for some security to come. Her behavior is not good either, but put yourself in her shoes and try to keep your cool being treated like that. It isn’t easy when the kids are that disrespectful.

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    • missy123
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 1:06pm

      To those of you who have no sympathy for this woman, I hope a kid never treats your elderly family member like this. I’m sure if that was the case, I’m sure you would be the first ones pounding on a tv stations door!
      As far as not doing her job..what would you like for her to have done? You can’t discipline these kids! You can only yell so much before they report you to the school or your bus company.
      How do we know what occurred before this taping? Was she standing up on the bus telling all of the kids to sit down? Had she sat down because they were going approaching a dangerous intersection?
      I don‘t care what in God’s name she was doing…the brats are the ones to be blamed for their actions so quit trying to throw the blame on somebody else!
      These kids should be made to stand on the corner wearing a sign that reads: “Mrs. Klein I am sorry for being so disrespectful to you” just to see how it feels to be publically humiliated!
      Let them stand out there for a couple hours and I bet you’d never hear of them causing a problem again!

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    • Crazyotto
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 1:31pm

      merlin88
      I doubt you have an inkling as to what her job is… these days monitors cannot touch let alone interact with the millions of spoiled kids who have no discipline..if people want to give money to this lady so be it and good for her .If dhe flipped them off who cares they were extremely rude and just plain evil. It is the parents and lazy progressive school administrators who have a hand in this …for years leftists/progressives/anarchists have demanded a hands off approach to raising kids. parents have gone along wanting to be their childrens best friends and cool parents.. so now we have adult children who think they are entitled to and deserve everything.. You sound like a typical rotten parent who wants to blame everyone but your own rotten self for your kids problems..

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    • glennpatstu
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 3:03pm

      MOLLYPITCHER
      “Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:54am
      Spankings are still allowed at my kids school. It’s called My Kitchen Table. My kids have never been to school away from home. When my son, who is 8, saw this when I was watching the news this morning, he was shocked and said ‘Mama, their making fun of that lady because of how she looks.” He was quite bothered. Am I sheltering my kids? YOU BET!!!! As Glenn said in the earlier video- if this is socialization, then I don’t want my kids socialized”

      haha- I hope your kids have fun being outcast weirdos who never received a proper education because your dumb ass “taught’ them. Here‘s a line you should have them memorize for next week’s ‘lesson’- “want fries with that?“ for the following week try ” b b b b but it‘s the gubmint’s fault!”

      your kids are doomed- they have to be around other people and learn to compete, stick up for themselves, respect others, etc. somehow. LOL at homeschooled, sheltered from the real- world pansies.

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    • gadgetninja
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 8:27pm

      stick their punk asses in gitmo for 3 days i bet they will NEVER terrorize anyone again

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    • fatpatriot
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:28am

      glennpatstu 6/22/12 3:03pm
      I normally won’t feed the trolls but;
      You are seriously ignorant or foolish. Studies all over the education spectrum have shown that “homeschool pansies” as you so eloquently put it, test at higher level on College Entamce exams and SAT’s. Further studies show fewer incarcerations of “home schooled pansies”. I can’t really decide if you are wilfully ignorant or just foolish. Ignorance can be remedied with information. Foolishness can only be remedied by painful results of your foolishness. Which is it? ignorant? foolish? by the way in case you are lazy as well here’s the link:
      http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/30/home-schooling-outstanding-results-national-tests/

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  • hauschild
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:29am

    I would say that just the fact that we’re all discussing this topic pretty much tells you all you need to know about many of the children (and parents) in this country. That were at this point means it’s probably irreversible – the course we’re on.

    If half the people in this nation don’t understand the Constitution or know what it is for, even if they claim to be religious, can we “really” be assured they are practicing it properly, given the fact that I feel the Consitution – to a certain extent – trumps one’s religion? If you have a firm understanding of the founding principles, you will have no problem practicing religion in the proper manner. However, I am not convinced it can be successful the other way around because what you end up with is the “feel good” religious crap that’s so pervasive today.

    That‘s why I’d like this country’s people to shift focus from religion being most important to the founding principles taking precedent – for a good 10-20 years.

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    • CATPBJ
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 1:15pm

      Part 2 —

      And this statement of yours — “If you have a firm understanding of the founding principles, you will have no problem practicing religion in the proper manner.”"

      Are you effing serious??? What the hell does this even mean?? Are you saying that people that dont understand the US Constitution, all of the people in countries other then the USA and lots of people in the US– Can’t be religious?? Because they dont practice our constitution??? What a crock of BS!!!

      I think that you need a long vacation…. get out of your parents basement, discard the tinfoil hat, keep off of the internet, try to speak to other humans face to face instead of through typed words…’ then take large doses of anti-psychotic medications, rinse and repeat!!!

      Your comment is utterly ridiculous, and I have read many many ridiculous comments here at the blaze!! But yours wins first prize for being the most idiotic!! No wonder that republicans get the mentally challenged people behind them…..

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  • justavoter
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:29am

    Let’s see how many more billions of dollars can be thrown into our public school system. It appears that the only people reaping benefits in our public school system are the teachers and administrators with their wages, bonuses, and retirement packages while American children are being left behind. Any school system should be ashamed to have middle school children that treat adults that way in public. I am so sick of the school system always blaming the parents. Could it be that the school system has become so big and powerful that they don’t listen to the parents anymore or give them a platform? Why is it that the school system is always right when the school system always blames the parents?

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    • ADNIL
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:50am

      wouldn’t it be nice if parents AND teachers got on the same page and were both allowed to discipline children? I guess the gubbament would have to get out of the way first (fat chance). Besides, it’s future job security for the criminal justice industry.

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    • guntotinsquaw
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:57am

      As a parent, I find your comment completely offensive. The public school is supposed to teach my children to read, write, do math and science. As for their behavior, that is my job! I refuse to relinquish parenting to any school/government agency,thank you. If one of my boys were to do such behavior, they had best start choosing the weeping willow branch now. I going to strip hide right off their backside, from the ankles up. I would expect one of my sons to stand up to this group of heathens and defend this lady. If they get 3 days out for such actions, we would be fine with that. Sometimes standing for what is right comes with consequences, so be it. But know this, my job is to raise men..something in far short supply today. If my children behave badly, it reflects directly on me..not the school, not the government…ME! It is time for parents to take responsibility for their children.

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    • happ77
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 12:42pm

      Guntotinsquaw. I agree with everything you said. One of
      my sons stood up to a kid on the bus in high school who
      was bullying a much smaller kid and beat the crap out of
      him right there on the bus. When I was called to the school
      I told the assistant principle I thought he did the right thing
      and that he and I would treat the next 3 days as a vacation.
      As far as parents being responsble for developing their
      childs charector I agree but I also agree with others that
      some of the schools today and the progressives do alot
      to undermine us.

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    • DarthMims
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 12:55pm

      I will share this story to illustrate a good balance between home and school: when my friend was in high school, one of his teammates slapped a girl into the floor when she refused to give him any attention. My friend went over, made sure the girl was OK, and then tried to beat the snot out of his teammate for hitting a girl. The teachers broke the fight up and took them to the principal’s office and called their parents. My friend’s father (former Army) came in, listened to the story, and told my friend to get his butt back to class. The principal said that he couldn’t go back to class because he was suspended for three days. My friend’s father looked at the principal, told him that his son had been raised to defend those who could not defend themselves and that he would continue to do so if he knew what was good for him. Then he looked at my friend and said “What are you still standing there for? I said get back to class.” My friend went back to class as the principal’s door closed. He said he doesn’t know what conversation took place, but he never served a suspension. He did get grounded for his father having to take off to come to the school.

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    • MARINE_CORPS_SOLDIERx21
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 1:23pm

      It was parents that took discipline away from the schools. It is parents who are responsible for raising their children, NOT SCHOOLS. teachers are there to educate not raise children. Parents that rely on the schools to raise their children do not deserve the honor of having children. This is not about unions or other issues with teachers, it’s all about undisciplined children acting the way their parents allow them to act. From the home setting of the one family she visited it would be a fair assumption that these are not underprivledged children who live in the streets at night. These are the have it all kids who knownothing of discipline because their parents don’t enforce any at home and the schools have their hands tied out of fear of law suits.
      These little turds need to have bullies cut loose on them for a few days from the time they get off the bus at school until th time they get off the bus at home. Give them a dose of their own medicine to see how much they like it. Yes, that‘s called bullying but if their parents won’t discipline them let them be the victim and just maybe they’ll understand what it feels like and amybe thinnk twice before they bully someone again.
      Obviously the parents have never taught them about respecting their elders. How would they feel if someone treated their grandparents that way? They probably treat their grand parents like crap also. This isn’t a 1st time for any of them, this is the 1st time they were caught.

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    • objectivetruth
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 3:58pm

      I agree with the first two posters.
      @Guntotingsquaw
      As a parent I find your post beyond disgusting.More like narcissitic and self absorbed.Only small children are a direct reflection of there parent.As they age they should [if healthy]develope there own personality.They aren’t a mirror image of you.While the schools main objective should be education there arises occasion to discipline.They no longer are able to.Then again neither can parents, as they have been threatened with jail and loss of custody.Why didn’t you or anyone else bring this up?I’ll tell you why its the elephant in the room no one talks about.The fact that the children have taken over with the help of liberals and social services.Not to mention that any one can call and report you for alledged abuse.Terror cells rapists pedophiles busybodies anyone .It doesn’[t surprise me the kids act like shite.There is no one left to protect them defend them discipline them.This is something we didn’t have to live with.
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      Oh and I do know that terror cells use it.You can usually tell its them by the number of calls and the fact that they come in from all over the country.The parent and child are stationary.Trapped like animals.The gd police and the ss will protect there ability to stay anoymous against your very real need to protect your kids and yourself.

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    • cykonas
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 5:51pm

      With all due respect I disagree that the problem with the public school system are the teachers and administrators. What drives the degradation of educational quality and disciplinary standards are the NEA and the various state unions that are affiliated with the NEA.

      The union mooks are getting rich on the backs of the teachers, administrators and school systems from whom they steal, in many cases, the money that they use to undermine the system. (It’s rather interesting how many teachers opted out in WI when it was no longer mandatory to pay union dues) The unions do nothing to improve the schools; in fact they make them less effective. Most of the teachers that I came to know during my childrens‘ school years were dedicated individuals who cared about their students and the students’ education.

      Unfortunately most teachers have to either toe the union line or they are ostracized. The unions, along with the reticence of the parents to fight them, are the problem. Peace.

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    • guntotinsquaw
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:08am

      @Objective..You must live in a commie progressive state. See, I live in a very conservative state with a very conservative school. Our court system, even more conservative as is our social services. Naturally my sons are not my “mirror image” as I am a woman. Thus I am raising young men not gender neutral. My school has never found the need to discipline my children, my kids behave. There is nothing narcissitic with drawing the clear difference between parenting and the government. It is people with your attitude that raise children that you tube the beating instead of stopping it. My oldest is going to school full time and working, while volunteering for fire/rescue and donates 20 hours a month to read to people while taking treatments in the hospital. My youngest son mows the lawn of our elderly neighbor for no pay, she gifts him homemade treats. These are things that are taught at home, not in school. I can tell you for a fact, this episode would never occur on one of our school buses (my mother is a bus driver) because the worst thing a child can receive in our school is a call to a parent (and yes, my school has corporal punishment). Parents actively volunteer in our schools and our children are remarkably well behaved when taken into public (field trips), anything less is not acceptable. Perhaps you should choose a better place to raise kids, and stop blaming everyone else.

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    • objectivetruth
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 12:15pm

      @guntotingsquaw
      Actually my kids are adults and have long since moved away.I raised them in Virginia.This state is conservative.Unfortunately in the eighties and early nineties the ss dept was liberal.At the time I considered that this why I had trouble with them,pThat and an ex]I wish I had been that lucky.Noone asked me about my real familys background.If they had they would have understood that I grew up behind the classification wall.That it wasn’t as simple as it seemed.Someone in my shoes doesn’t volunteer that information without correct solicitation.As such I probaly wouldn’t have answered them anyway.However I would have been able to contact those who could have investigated it.
      There is a clear line between parental responsibility and the schools.It isn’t the schools place to instill discipline morals exc.It does have a secondary job of reinforcing discipline during school hours.This was done sucessfuly in true neighborhood schools for decades if not centuarys.The reinforcement usually involved minor discipline by the school with the parents doing the real discipline.
      Note
      CAPTA was passed in 1974.This was done right after a meeting with jordan.Almost every law removing the rights of parents and schools stem from this.Why?It destroys the american family from within.We waste money and resources to do so.A triple win for the enemy I’d say.
      I’m a lousy parent?Been falsely accused of far worse.

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  • 1fstcat
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:29am

    I don’t agree with the treats to these kids but it is a lesson for them: When you threaten someone don’t be surprised if someone bigger comes along and starts threatening you. NOT A SURPRISE. Good for them to learn that now before they are in a bar or a car one day and say the wrong thing to the wrong person.

    Klein probably wouldn’t want these kids to know where she lives but they need to be doing services for her of some kind. Starting with buying her a nice purse since they didn‘t think her’s was “worthy”. Amazing how SPOILED ppl are ALLOWING their kids to get these days.

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    • HorseCrazy
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:52am

      I am blown away the idiot parents never took this kids cell phone or computer for the facebook account away in the first place. problem solved right there but just goes to show nothing will change with these kids. I distinctly remember having my horse taken away the tv taken away etc when I was in the dog house as a child. looks like these spoiled brats get away with darn near anything at home.

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  • abbygirl1994
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:28am

    Matthew
    14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
    15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
    It is sad that this woman was treated the way she was. but I believe if someone comes and asks for forgiveness then forgive.. I have seen people who have forgiven the person who killed there son or daughter! Personally I have found that if I do not forgive that it festers and wreaks havoc on me personally.. Why carry around that baggage! I have seen people in my own faith who had a squabble, said stupid things to each other and those wounds festered and festered, eventually the person who started the fight fell away ad quit coming to church altogether.. The other lady asked for forgiveness way before that and the other would not forgive her. Not forgiving can consume us! I hope this lady can forgive these children sooner or later!! For her sake!

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:33am

      Agreed…and thank them that they made her wealthy too…She should be very forgiving and very thankful.

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    • undercover
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:39am

      If you read the article you will see that they did not come to her to apologize. Their words were directed to the media. I’m sure if they go to HER with sincere remorse she will forgive them.

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    • MistaB
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:44am

      The kid’s not sorry for doing it, he’s sorry he got caught! Did you listen to what they were saying and how they were saying it? That’s years of not being taught the difference between right and wrong.

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    • HorseCrazy
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:49am

      I believe she wants an authentic apology not one publicly directed at the media and then followed by parental whining about his childs cell phone harassment (if my child did this I would have thrown his phone in the garbage and disconnected the line) and then the whining about facebook…um again if my child did this there would be no computer at all for a very very long time the parents should have cancelled the account immediately. I am so glad this is in the public eye now. so many rotten apples in this society. that being said, I am all for sharing the forgiveness Christ gave us on the cross but there is a small portion called repentance of which there is none from these boys.

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    • dsd13130
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 3:58pm

      I agree, she should forgive them WHEN they face her FACE to FACE and apologize. As for the money, she didn’t ask for it, wasn’t her idea. Can’t understand the death threats though. I agree they were terrible to this woman but I doubt their actions deserve the death penalty. If one of them were my kid, they might wish they were dead though.

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  • JabberwockyBandersnatch
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:22am

    First I’d like to say that what the kids did was wrong, and unjustifiable, yet let’s be realistic about this
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    Fact: This lady was being paid to be a Bus Monitor; it was her job to monitor the actions of the kids on the bus and to correct them as necessary. The boys were acting inappropriately on the bus, it just so happened that they were acting up towards her. If this lady was unable to control the kids that were teasing her, an adult, how would she have reacted if they were teasing another child? Her job was to protect and control the situations of the children and she was unable to do that. Yes, the kids were very wrong to tease this lady, yet this lady shouldn’t have had this job in the first place!

    This is not mean to say, this is the reality of the situation.

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    • Truthbeliever2
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:32am

      The ******** kids and their ******** parents are getting exactly what they deserve. PERIOD

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:38am

      Agreed. She says that her job as monitor was simply to observe and report bad behavior, not to “engage” with the kids in any way. OK, but her totally passive, limp attitude, and weak verbal responses only encouraged them to go on with their taunts. Dare I say a younger, fitter, more intimidating monitor might have better used body language to communicate the unacceptability of their behavior without saying a word or layig a hand on any of them? As for their apologies, accept them and move on. Criminal prosecution, fines, expulsion from school, exclusion from sports? Seriously?

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    • hatchetjob
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 12:09pm

      TRUTHBELIEVER2, I’m with you!!

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    • vietvet6768
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 1:10pm

      Sounds like you have a child just like these. You expect others to teach them what is right and wrong. Good luck with the kid and I hope you have money to bail them out of jail.

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    • jhrusky
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 2:01pm

      @ truthbeliever2

      “The ******** kids and their ******** parents are getting exactly what they deserve. PERIOD”

      Yes, they deserve death threats, and, perhaps, even death. I mean, they’re over 10 years old, so let’s all get together and go kill them. Let’s film it, post it on youtube ourselves, and then we can point to it and tell others, ‘See what you get? Mess with others adn see what you get!”

      Idiot

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  • KingCanon
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:21am

    Spare the ROD, spoil the CHILD.
    It’s that simple!

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    • kent grotz
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 12:35pm

      In my younger days the rod the rod would have had a good workout. Now , would probably be a bunch of lawsuits.lol

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  • Wildblue3
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:16am

    I agree that these Kids need to do more than just spout a canned apology. I think a public announcement of what the parents plan to do as well as a website showing them doing it so it’s not just words. Let’s call it Pennance.com or something.

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  • thegreatcarnac
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:15am

    An apology is just more words and they will not counteract the barage of hurtful words this woman endured. She is right in not accepting their apoligies. You can deduct that these kids do this to a lot of people…especially other children. They are only apologizing because they were caught. Make them pay. Expel them for a long time.

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  • loveliberty83
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:15am

    because of her age i think there are laws on the books that protect her from abuse which this was kids get suspended for this called bullying why did they notify the news if they were truly sorry bs

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  • myptofvu
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:14am

    How about a summer at Boot Camp. I don‘t know why we can’t take 1 less F22 and send more kids for a stint in Military School (boot camp). Might be the best way to save their lives.

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    • hatchetjob
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 12:14pm

      Great idea MYPTOFVU! Some of the kids these days need a wake up call.

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  • KevINtampa
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:11am

    These apologies don’t ask for forgiveness, therefore not a real apology. Part of apologizing is knowing that just because you‘re sorry doesn’t mean you think you should be forgiven by the person; and forgiveness is what it’s all about. You feel bad about how you hurt someone, you feel bad about what it caused them, and their forgiveness is important to you.

    It’s no wonder our society is FUBAR. We don’t even know how to properly apologize to each other any more.

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  • alcarfl
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:08am

    I smell an epidemic of copy cat incidents on busses throughout the nation. In Marion County Indiana, (Indianapolis) bus shenagins trigger an immediate call to the cops who intercept the problemed bus, enroute, and take the apopropriate control. Luckily, for most, school is out for the summer and most will have forgotten the incident. Most. Anybody wonder why the Greece bus driver did nothing to curtail the situation. Somewhere in the busy metropolis of Greece there must be a place to pull a 44 foot bus to the side of the road, safely, and assist the monitor. Put the driver’s address on youtube.

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  • KusoJiJi
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:06am

    the school principle should call her in and let her decide the kids punishment. she seems to be the one with the most common sense. i hope she gets the full amount of the donations and has a happy retirement.

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  • AllLost
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:05am

    Now, if the boys parents were media or politicians the apology would be something like:

    I am sorry if someone took offense.

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  • ImChiquita
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:03am

    Humanity: we are a bunch of sharks, waiting for blood in the water.

    Were the boys wrong? My gosh, yes! Learning their lesson via missed calls and death-threat texts? Absolutely overboard.

    Maybe this was a wake-up call to all of the parents (including the poor innocent boy who doesn’t even ride the bus). Here’s hoping honest-to-God truth and justice emerges the victor from this incident.

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  • aragona
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:02am

    Let’s see – kids’ addresses being published on the internet. (Zimmerman)
    Kids being cursed out (kids who sung God Bless the USA)

    The children have “suffered enough”? Only when they have received adequate discipline and behavior modification. I like her idea of no bus and no sports but they parents need to restrict these children’s freedoms for quite some time, get some counseling for their kids, and engage their children in community service so they can learn to appreciate what they have and to learn to see others as PEOPLE. There’s something misfiring in the brains of these kids.

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  • booger71
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:01am

    Since she is not in control of the money being collected, I doubt she will see a third of it. That is why I never give money to these online feel good money collections that supposedly benefit people or causes in need.. For the most part, the people setting up these scams keep most of it for themselves.

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    • raoul del norte
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:21am

      I‘m sure there’s a lawyer who has inserted him/her self into the money stream somehow! Probably one of those ambulance chasing law firms who advertise, unceasingly, on Fox News everyday.

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    • booger71
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:43am

      Anyone can legally set up money collecting for another person or cause. There are several websites that cater to raising money for other people or causes. The person setting this up has complete control over the money collected, after paying the website a small percentage of the take. Unless I know the person setting these up, I never give to them.

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    • undercover
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:46am

      Or Raoul maybe a wall street leach will demand the money because they “deserve” a free lunch at the expense of hard working people.

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    • booger71
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:51am

      This is from the website that this Max S. set up for Mrs Kein
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      What if I don’t reach my funding goal?

      If your campaign is set up as Flexible Funding, you will be able to keep the funds you raise, even if you don’t meet your goal. If your campaign is set up as Fixed Funding, all contributions will be returned to your funders if you do not meet your goal. Flexible Funding campaigns that meet their goal are only charged 4% as our platform fee, whereas campaigns that do not meet their goal are charged 9%.
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      I wonder if she knows this Max guy, and as the website says that this Max gets to keep the money raised, nothing in the facts section of the website says you are required to turn over a penny of the money to your intended person or cause. Don’t even need their permission.

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  • Itsnakemo
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:00am

    These spoiled kids do not derserve to be forgiven. Especially if this was a bunch of kids who repeatedly harass other kids or adults. Deal with your punishment kids. Kids, do not think you will ever get away with this kind of abuse, ever.

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  • barber2
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 10:59am

    “A stupid mistake ,” dad ? Perhaps you need to look up the definitions of stupid and mistake. And perhaps you need to examine your conscience and review what moral foundation you are providing for your son.

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    • ADNIL
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 12:06pm

      The stupid mistake was filming and posting the encounter. Those insults and threats just sort of …slipped out…ooops – a mistake? Hardly. What rotton kids. Truely a reflection on their parents’ lack of parenting.

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  • EP46
    Posted on June 22, 2012 at 10:54am

    Sure, let’s put the apology out there in the public…like Holder did before sending a letter to Brian Terry’s parents. An apology is good…but these kids will think all they have to do is say ‘I’m sorry’ and it all goes away…like out elected officials do when they get caught ‘ala Weener’……if these kids are ‘sorry’ they must take positive ‘action’ and show with deeds…not words.

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:07am

      Agreed. I don’t think they should give up sports, but suspended from the bus for a period of time is definitely warranted, and they should have to do community service at a retirement home for a good many hours too. Perhaps they would have a bit more respect for ‘oldsters’ if they were up close and personal.

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    • angelcat
      Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:12am

      I always told my students that “I’m sorry plus a nickel= 5 cents – unless you are determined never to do or say the same kind of thing again, truly sorry, and willing to do anything possible to make amends.“ Too many kids see ”I’m sorry ” as an easy way out so they can go on their merry way and do the same thing over and over – sort of a verbal Get Out of Jail card.

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    • AnAmericanToo
      Posted on June 24, 2012 at 1:56am

      GrandmaOf5 doesn’t think these anti-social kids should have to give up sports. Oh…I do! Sports is not a right and they clearly have learned nothing from playing sports about ‘sportsmanship’ (ie respect for others). I wouldn’t allow these anti-social kids back into the same school — reform school might be useful or some kind of alternative system. They should all be compelled to complete a min of three months of therapy and probably a full year.

      But I have wondered — why are these anti-social kids calling Mrs. Klein by her first name, “Karen”. RESPECT for her was lost some time ago. I have friends who have raised their children to address others using a title “Mr. Smith” or Mrs. Smith“ or ”Miss Smith”. The school district should be reviewed because they have failed everyone — Mrs. Klein for apparently being tormented by these same children more than once; not correcting these bullies throughout the academic year as they sound like problem students; not protecting the other kids on the bus from these abusive students (WHERE are the parents of the other kids on this bus to speak out about not knowing their child was riding this kind of inferno bus? Imagine willingly placing your child on such a bus day in and day out!) These bullies should have been kicked off the taxpayer funded transportation system long ago!
      Heads should be rolling at the school district this summer over this….

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