‘Mind-Numbing’ Audio of a Law Student Telling Congress Why Religious Colleges Should Pay for Her Birth Control
- Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:12am by
Billy Hallowell
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Reproductive Rights Activist Sandra Fluke
Sandra Fluke is a student at Georgetown Law. She’s also a “reproductive rights activist” who agrees wholeheartedly with the Obama administration’s controversial contraceptive mandate. Her reasoning, though, is likely to enrage some critics.
During a testimony in front of the House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee on Monday (a meeting that was held by House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi), Fluke — who was coincidentally the only witness heard — described the financial constraints that purchasing birth control puts on her peers.
“Forty percent of the female students at Georgetown Law reported to us that they struggled financially as a result of this policy,” Fluke said, referring to the fact that the university doesn’t pay for contraception. “Without insurance coverage, contraception, as you know, can cost a woman over $3,000 during law school.”
She detailed, among other stories, how one woman felt “embarrassed” and “powerless” at the pharmacy counter when she “learned for the first time” that contraceptives weren‘t covered by the university’s health care plan.
Watch her complete testimony, below:
CNS News’ Craig Bannister, though, challenged Fluke’s $3,000 figure and came up with some pretty interesting numbers:
$3,000 for birth control in three years? That’s a thousand dollars a year of sex – and, she wants us to pay for it. [...]
At a dollar a condom if she shops at CVS pharmacy’s website, that $3,000 would buy her 3,000 condoms – or, 1,000 a year…
Assuming it’s not a leap year, that’s 1,000 divided by 365 – or having sex 2.74 times a day, every day, for three straight years. And, I thought Georgetown was a Catholic university where women might be prone to shun casual, unmarried sex. At least its health insurance doesn’t cover contraception (that which you subsidize, you get more of, you know).
On his radio show this morning Glenn Beck and his co-hosts called the commentary “mind-numbing,“ ”insane,” and characterized Fluke’s words as “unmitigated gall,” among other statements (read more of Bannister’s analysis and commentary here).
Watch Beck and company discuss the issue:
This isn’t the first time Fluke has made her voice heard in the halls of Congress. Earlier this month, The Blaze reported about Democrat Representatives Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) and Eleanor Norton (D-DC) and their anger over the lack of female witnesses present at a previous contraceptive hearing.
The congresswomen wanted Fluke to be permitted to speak at the event, but Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) declined to allow it, stating that Fluke was not an expert in religious freedom, which was the issue being investigated.
Fluke, though, responded by claiming that women should be included in the discussion. She also alleged that a friend of hers died because of a lack of access to contraception and accused Issa of silencing the people who have the most authority to speak on the subject.
(H/T: CNS News)
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Comments (1247)
mrqstixx
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:32amThey’ve got to be putting something in the water. Our country’s going insane.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:46am.
Report Post »Either that or she had her brains #$%$^ out!………..
artistskeptic
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:46amThe ruling progressive Democrats have neither the intellegence nor courage to tell parasites such as
Fluke to take responsibility for themselves and their actions. How would this idiot behave in the pre-pill era? Would she be demanding free condoms so she could spend as much time as possible on her back? This is a disgusting being.
ginger3350
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:50amShe is just another Zombie shill for this administration. Mom and dad must be so proud of her admission of promiscuity on national television; I don’t remember the mention of a boyfriend- and since she needs birth control,she’s not a lesbian. Maybe she will get a participation trophy for that as well. If only her parents would have instilled responsibility in her she wouldn’t be demanding for us to pay for her sexcapades.Pfft.
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:05pmI can’t believe this idiocy actually came out of her mouth, “She also alleged that a friend of hers died because of a lack of access to contraception and accused Issa of silencing the people who have the most authority to speak on the subject.” A friend of hers actually died because she didn’t have access to contraceptives? From What????? Was she killed because of a botched pharmacy heist and was shot?
The sickness of a liberal/entitlement mind!
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:06pmginger3350
Bravo, well said.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:15pmI always thought libby’s were flukes. Now there’s one even named that. Poster child for a future ACLU attorney.
Report Post »000degrees
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:20pmThere really is no end to the gimme gimme gimme generation. Wow, it’s true..I really do not recognize this country ant longer…
Report Post »Biddle
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:20pmsucks. I got friends who buy this crap hook line and sinker. it sucks bad. I just try to show them how both parties are hypocrites and how the Lords kingdom IS NOT AT ALL NOT ONE STINKIN BIT of this world.
Report Post »jmhroberts
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:22pmMaybe she should make all of the men lining up to screw her, bring their own condems.
Report Post »BubbaCoop
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:22pmShe’s lying. No one is having sex with her.
Report Post »Bluefish49
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:23pmShe should drop out and stop giving up the honey hole for free…..who needs college anyway?
Report Post »encinom
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:24pmOh the idiots at the Balze and CNS are at is again. Craig Bannister’s comment are out right lies that, the Beckerhead eat up. The testimony was not about condoms but medication. Craig Banisters comments are libelous and he should be ashamed of himself. The per month cost of $83.00 is not unrealistic given the price of medications.
If anything the CNS/Blaze reporting has proven just how dishonest the Christian Conservatives will be in this debate. They have no care about women‘s health or the women they will die from cancer or lose their fertility because old men in funny hats didn’t want the women to be able to purchase medication that is also a contraceptive.
USAMEDIC3008
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:26pmIf she wants someone to pay for
Report Post »their sexual conduct
Does that make them Whores
Zer0
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:26pmI do not think people understand the entire farce this debate has become on both sides. First, the ability for men, women, and teens to procure basic contraceptives has been widely available at your local (government funded) healthcare clinics for free. You can get a basic physical, STD/HIV screenings, a bag of condoms, and birth control pills for FREE. This has been true long before Obamacare.
Second, the Social-Cons, led by “Slick” Rick Santorum SQUANDERED an opportunity to bring both parties, all American ethnicities, and American religious (and secular groups) together on the side of liberty. By LOSING FOCUS and debating the issue on the terms of the Progressives over the merits of contraceptives/birth control they gave up the real debate over LIBERTY and the infringement of.
The debate is NOT whether contraceptives or birth control is legal or morally acceptable, it is whether or not people of faith (or moral objections) should pay directly for the lifestyle choices of others.
dealer@678
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:33pm3000 dollars a year for rubbers. Sounds like the skank is a nympthomaniac
Report Post »Harry Assenback
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:33pmBy looking at this Butch she wants nothing to do with a condom is used for.
Report Post »AmericanFightingMan1
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:34pmThis is typical whacko leftist behavior. I graduated law school. I saw these lunatics everyday. They are braindead and just regurgitate the garbage they have been indoctrinated with over the years.
Bottom line, this is what we (as a nation) get when we elect, over and over, clowns who set public policy, including establishing the educational norms in society, by virtue of US electing them.
This young woman is lost. It is HIGHLY unlikely she will recover and get her head straight. She will be angry, bitter, and take out her aggressions in a quixotic pursuit of fame and recognition in this little false crusade she is on. She is the enemy within. Look at her. She is from our families. She has been poisoned by our educational system.
I’ll bet that if you dig deep, you wil come to find two clueless, weak parents who let this little brat do whatever she wanted in life. Now here she is, spoiled for the world to see, spouting her intellectually vapid drivel for all to see. Sad.
Report Post »rox
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:38pmWhy don’t the men buy condoms?
Report Post »peeoui
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:47pmI would gladly pay for something that produces less rats
Report Post »ha ha ha
Beckisdelusional
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:48pmBirth Control is a no no yet Viagra is okay? As long as the guys get their rocks of I guess. Watch out little boys…
Report Post »Mike N
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:54pm.
On the wrong side once again ENCINOM . . . think about what you wrote.
“The testimony was not about condoms but medication. The per month cost of $83.00 is not unrealistic given the price of medications.”
Contraceptives are given for a condition that does not yet exist . . . kind of like One-a-Day vitamins, and they are certainly not medication. The cost of one-a-days is much less than $83 per month, but not covered, so why should contraception be so special?
Even if you want to argue that the morning-after pill-should be considered medication because conception has already taken place, the self-facilitation of pregnancy is reason enough to reject the funding. Most of us would not want to subsidize the free dispensation of insulin to someone who eats a half gallon of ice cream per week, or free methodone to a drug addict.
As long as we block the natural consequences to those who make stupid decisions, we further dilute the gene pool. Natural selection is the reason that humans remain on the earth after millions of years, but liberals strive to negate that process, and permit everyone to indulge themselves effortlessly, thereby weakening the human race.
Now, think about all of the medical benefits that will be denied for lack of funding because of diversion of funding to contraception. Treatments for infections, viruses, appendicitis, broken bones, mammograms . . .
Your are so self-serving – blinded by your own “needs” that you’ll never admit yo
Report Post »Kankokage
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:56pmI’m calling bullcrap on this girl. Nobody would want to have sex with her.
And frankly, miss, pregnancy is not a disease. This isn‘t about women’s health – particularly since birth control has numerous and severe side effects, including those of a psychological nature. If you’re big enough to have sex, you’re big enough to deal with the consequences yourself. Buy your own birth control – it isn’t as expensive as she says (3000 bucks a year? What is it, gold-plated?).
Report Post »Dale
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:56pmShe must be part of the gubment – her math is fuzzy: just searched and found that ‘the pill’ costs between 15 and 50 per month. that results in $540 and $1800 for three years. Of course if you include a hotel room in the $3000 it could cost $3000.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:08pm“CNS News’ Craig Bannister, though, challenged Fluke’s $3,000 figure and came up with some pretty interesting numbers:
$3,000 for birth control in three years? That’s a thousand dollars a year of sex – and, she wants us to pay for it. [...]
At a dollar a condom if she shops at CVS pharmacy’s website, that $3,000 would buy her 3,000 condoms – or, 1,000 a year…”
Huh. Apparently Craig has never heard of the pill, OB-GYN visits (needed for the pill and recommended annually for sexually active women), Plan B (in case other birth control fails), or other contraceptives such as spermicidal gels, birth control injections, or IUDs. Condoms are cheap, but notice that this girl said contraceptives, not just condoms.
Craig Bannister has set up what is known as a strawman; a false argument that is easy to knock down. Does anyone honestly think this girl is buying 1000 condoms each year like Bannister says?
Report Post »Kankokage
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:09pmAnd of course this is just Nancy’s latest attempt to distract the people from what is really going on – the systemic and executive-driven removal of the first amendment.
Report Post »Kankokage
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:17pmDuring the short time my wife was taking low-dosage birth control pills, the cost was about 60 bucks a month – without any insurance. That comes out to about 720 bucks a year. The effect on her mood, her weight, and her health was so intense that she decided to never use it again.
But again, this is a smokescreen. The First Amendment is being trampled upon by our government, and unless those on the left pull their heads out and fight against this mandate it will be gone faster than any of us think.
Report Post »M24
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:26pmThis Shitz makes My Head Explode You have to believe that if it‘s not in the Water It Must Be The Ignorance Of Our Lower Learning Institution’s. Or She Is A Poster Child For STUPID !!!!!
Report Post »Dstarr55
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:29pmThe point he was making is birth control is affordable – if you cannot afford the pill, condoms are a cheaper alternative – but even if he used the given cost of birth control, which runs between $15 and $50 dollars, you are still not talking about $1,000 a year – plus the fact many organizations will help in the cost not just of the pills but in free check-ups. Besides I thought Obamacare allowed parents to keep their children on their healthcare longer. Why would a Christian College be their only means of coverage if they can stay on their parent’s insurance?
Birth control and the morning after pill is not a right but such an argument obscures the real issue – the power of the government to mandate a company to give a product away for free as well the government stepping on the rights of religious institutions.
Report Post »proudinfidel54
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:30pmSo lets see if I am hearing this correctly, beause her friend couldn’t get her free birth control, she couldn’t have the child she wanted, WOW, my brain is going to explode.
Report Post »countrysideflair
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:33pmI didn’t realize women studying law were required to have sex with so many people in order to get a law degree. When my father got his Harvard law degree, he said he never had time for fun activities, studying 40 hours a week, plus working a job 50 hours a week.
Report Post »proudinfidel54
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:33pmI bet Uniroyal and Goodyear really like this chick
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:39pmHow do you become a Reproductive Rights Activist ??
Report Post »Interesting, HMMMM !! is this something Palooosi
thought up ? to make her man-child shine… more
for the Woman’s Vote, I think..
Maji
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:40pmI’ve got it!!
Report Post »Use the Obama method.
Have a revolving plan where if you don’t get pregnant within a
Certain period of time…you are no longer considered”impregnable”!
And (this is the beauty of it) you’ll drop off the roles and are no longer
able to draw benefits, therefore can’t be counted as pregnant!
CRAZY???
It’s the Obama” UNENPLOYEEMENT” system!!
sickntiredofliberals
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:42pmCry me a river !!!!!!!!!!! If they want to screw around like whores, pay for it. All this “Free” birth control is coming out of the taxpayers pocket. NOTHING IS FREE !!! Let’s all say “Thank you, O” !!!
Report Post »dpmeek71
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:45pmMan I hope she’s a 1st Law Student. She making a crappy case and killing Georgetown Law Reputation.
Report Post »its_time_to_arrest_our_government
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:47pmtry keeping your legs closed! its not up to us to pay for you to have sex. this is the kind of crap we need to put a stop to. my money is not yours. you are not entitled to everything just because you think you need it. i want a nice new 4×4 how about you pay for it bi*ch!
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:47pmWhat a pathetic, twisted, sucking at the teat of government milk this woman is. Good heavens, we also need to eat so why can’t we just get the government, a Catholic university or my next door neighbor for that matter to pay for my groceries because I freakin NEED to eat.
This is so insane I’m thinking of moving to the moon. I wonder if the government will pay for it on a condition of mental instability if I don’t get to go?
Report Post »Stephen1
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:11pmI want to be a democrat for just a moment………
From the looks of her, I don’t think she needs to worry about birth control!
OK, I’m back
Report Post »fblair
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:15pmWhat happened to the idea of avoiding sex until after you are married!!!!!!!
Report Post »Stephen1
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:21pmLook online, you can purchase a months worth of birth control pills for $35 per month. So, 3 years worth is $1,260. Compare that to the tuition of $300,000-$400,000… Hummm which is causing the financial burden.
I want to digress into a Democrat for a moment. “I don’t think SHE needs to worry about birth control, unless of course it’s costing her that much to pay the guys!”
Sorry, I’m back as a conservative, felt good though.
Report Post »leri
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:23pmThis madness has to stop. I wonder how much $$$$$$$ our Gov. paid her to do this?
Report Post »lilmjomac
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:26pmSo if the University pays for it, does that make them her pimp? This child is going to wake up one day and have serious regrets!
Report Post »leri
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:26pmThis madness has to stop. I wonder how much $$$$$ our Gov. paid her to do this?
Report Post »cgizzy
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:35pmAs a woman.. women like this really irk me. What birth control is she buying that has to be that expensive? and seriously? these women want to believe they are so indipendent and can take care of themselves and bla bla bla feminist nonsense, yet they need to government to provide for their pregnancy prevention?
I have a news flash for these women, birthcontrol is cheep and if you cant afford birth control, then its the guys responsibility to bring the condoms. I dont have insurance at all and I only pay $10 a month for birth control. $1000 a year? Please, try $120. Walmart and target offer it for $10 and walmart will even deliver to your door for free.
little runts unsatisfied with having to pay for their own responsibility, that’s all they are.
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:40pmI think I’m gonna puke! What the he11 is this woman going to college for? To learn or fornicate?
Report Post »Why doesn’t she just go down to planned parenthood and get the thingies the government pays for?
Just looking at her, I suspect she has to pay for the sex too. Just too weirdo!
Emrys
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:47pmIf you can’t afford the protection, don’t screw. You have NO Constitutional right to screw around and have someone else (i.e., me, the tax payer) pay for it. Stay celibate, or get a job and pay for it yourself. Leech!
Report Post »sharra
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:55pmOh! What a shock for this old woman, we even ran advertisments when I was fighting to make women independant. We said we could Bring home the Bacon, Fry it up in a pay, and never we forget we are women. We wanted to be treated like men so we gave up the protection of men and the care they offered to prove we could be independant and what are our grandchildren doing? Running to the government to get their recreational sex paid for they want college paid for (No responsibility). Shame on them, they need to grow up and take responsibility for their actions.
Report Post »americaninfedel
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:55pm@ ginger3350. I couldn’t have said it any better and to Blackhawk1 I agree, the sickness of the liberal mind.
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 3:00pmGet her phone #….bet her ‘date book’ is full into next year, or beyond…………..‘wheel heel’
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 3:02pmActually LOCKED…the strawman argument is yours. Any of these “over-sexed” college girls in dire need of contraceptives, sterliants and abortions that Ms Fluke is so passionately representing can to a government funded health clinic and obtain birth control pills and screenings for “free” (well..“free” in liberalville). What this militant leftist in the guise of a law student is actually trying to do is chip away at the church and it’s insitutions and erode the first amendment at the same time. If this girl is really a law student she‘s probably the worst presenter of an argument I’ve ever had to endure. She couldn’t argue her way out of a wet paper bag, although if she wore said paper bag we’d all be better off.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 3:08pmOnce again…it’s not about “womens’ rights”. It’s about the first amendment and the protections is gives religious practice. The church isn’t saying these women are not entitled to “free” (yeah I know..“free” only to a liberal) contraceptives, sterilants and abortions. It‘s saying it and it’s institutions don’t have to pay for them either directly or to their insurance company offering the “free” perks. There are government funded clinics that offer “free” (stop laughing) birth control and screenings. Apparently this underinformed idiot posing as a law student hasn’t realized that yet.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 3:13pm@Avengerk
“the strawman argument is yours.”
I’m actually curious as to what you mean. As my “argument”, if you can even call it that, was “Condoms are cheap, but notice that this girl said contraceptives, not just condoms.”
Are you saying Bannister did NOT change the wording from contraceptives to condoms? I’m not sure how you can dance your way out of that, but I’ll smile and nod at you as you try!
That doesn’t touch the actual substance of the article of course; my entire point is that if Bannister is assured of his position, he should not be forced to lie to make his point. Pretending the argument was about condoms instead of contraceptives in general so as to paint the girl as a hypersexual chipmunk is insulting and demeaning. We should be above such things, don’t you agree?
“although if she wore said paper bag we’d all be better off.”
Ah, no, perhaps you’re fine with insulting and demeaning people :-)
Report Post »Bowlz
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 3:20pmLooks like she’ll be on the supreme court after graduation, sitting between sotomayor and kagan?????
Report Post »People have told me that I should have gone to law school over the past 20 yrs. My response was: “I’m already an idiot but for my common sense; I don’t want to lose that too”. Law schools dumb people down under the guise of honor and altruistic purpose. We end up getting these arrogant elitists that think they know what’s best for all of us, while denying their own humanity. Who wants to have sex with her anyway?????????????????
CK1911
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 3:25pmno one, i repeat, no one is having sex with her 2.74 times a day.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 3:31pm@ SpankDaMonkey
.Either that or she had her brains #$%$^ out!………..
Report Post »~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Highly unlikely, based on my personal observations.
AvengerK
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 3:38pmLOCKED…where’s the lie Bannister said? Is the price of condoms he quoted a lie? Perhaps he should include the more exotic varieties that have a higher price point? I mean…why deny this two-****** her “right” to the very best and most stimulating condoms the church and the tax payer can buy her, right? Certainly it’s her “right” to get the most expensive condoms and have the church pay for them. You said Bannister’s was a strawman argument and proceeded with your usual word mincing …when in fact, you offered the strawman argument. Bannister hasn’t lied. He was certainly being a tad facetious by only offering the price of condoms and not including those “free” clinics I reminded you of. If his sarcasm was lost on you, you have my sympathy. Look up “nuance” champ. In any case…in your usual myopic way you fixated on Bannisters words while choosing to ignore the broader picture once again. I know you can’t help yourself though…you’re just a myopic, mealy mouthed, self approving git who can never acknowledge the whole picture. I‘ll reiterate for you because your pride won’t let you admit it…there are “free” (well..“free” in liberalland) health clinics Ms Fluke and her over-sexed sorority sisters can go to which will provide contraceptives and screenings for them. No church has to pay for her or her what appear to be libidinous female counterparts’ habits. Ol’ Two-bag Fluke needs to get a better education her ignornace is showing.
Report Post »jnobfan
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 3:39pmShe can go to Wal-Mart and buy a bottle of 500 aspirin for $3.99.
Report Post »You know what she can do with those right?
pavepaws
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 3:40pmThe poster child for what’s wrong with the youth of America.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 3:44pmCK1911….she has a right to be laid 2.74 times a day even if the reality is far less “active” and she believes the church should pay for that right. Right? Honestly if this two ****** is a lawyer she presents the worst most fragile arguments I’ve ever had the discomfort of having to take seriously. She apparently has never heard of “free” clinics funded by the government (I wince whenever “free” is used) that offer everything she demands the church should pay for. Apparently lethargy and ignorance are also something she believes her fellow female students should embrace..at someone else’s expense of course.
Report Post »Jim
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 3:45pmThis is sick! I have never seen such time wasted on something that is purely private and these supposingly intelligent people wasting time when they are getting an education. I have never in my lifetime seen so much time wasted on something like this that each person is responsible for their own personal habits. Why should anyone subsidize these women’s sexual habits… God, we truly our not deserving of our freedom. May he judge this country soon and show people with limited intelligence what is truly important in our lives. AND IT IS NOT SEX! Stop the insanity and don’t ask others to pay for your sin. Sex is not a game ti was given to use for a reason.
Report Post »black9897
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 3:46pmI go to the largest Christian University in the U.S. and will never be paying for her birth control.
Report Post »BlueStrat
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 3:49pmTo compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful & tyrannical. – Thomas Jefferson
If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people, under the pretense of taking care of them, they must become happy. – Thomas Jefferson
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. – Thomas Jefferson
I place economy among the first and most important of republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared. – Thomas Jefferson
The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself. – Benjamin Franklin
When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. Sell not liberty to purchase power. – Benjamin Franklin
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That’s all I have to say about that.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 3:50pmThe fact that Fluke takes herself so seriously is both hilarious and a little unsettling to me. The fact that no one approaches her in the throes of her pious idiocy…taps her on the shoulder and says “hey Flukey…there are “free” government funded clinics you can get all that stuff and screenings already” is curious to me.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 4:03pm@Avengerk
Ah, there’s your dancing!
“where’s the lie Bannister said? Is the price of condoms he quoted a lie? Perhaps he should include the more exotic varieties that have a higher price point?”
You mean the strawman? He changed the argument from contraceptives in general to condoms in particular. When discussing healthcare, do you only talk about band-aids and not mention vaccines, doctors visits, or medical procedures?
“He was certainly being a tad facetious by only offering the price of condoms and not including those “free” clinics I reminded you of.”
Or anything else in the realm of normal contraceptives?
“you fixated on Bannisters words while choosing to ignore the broader picture once again.”
Yes, I know you hate it when I quote what people say and call them on it; it’s like people are responsible for their own words! :-) As for ignoring the broad picture, I specifically addressed it. Here’s the quote, as you missed it before:
“That doesn’t touch the actual substance of the article of course; my entire point is that if Bannister is assured of his position, he should not be forced to lie to make his point.”
It is interesting that you don‘t find changing someone’s words to make a completely unrelated argument neither “lying” or a “strawman,” and that you disapprove of focusing on the words that people write.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 4:09pm@Avengerk
““hey Flukey…there are “free” government funded clinics you can get all that stuff and screenings already” is curious to me.”
Interesting reasoning. There are free and low-cost clinics for healthcare in general as well, as well as vaccination drives, blood testing sites, etc. Your wording seems to suggest that because they exist, there’s no need for health insurance?
It’s an odd tact to take, but I‘m sure you’ll be at the forefront of tapping people in hospitals on the shoulder and informing them about the “free” government-funded clinics across town.
Report Post »robear
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 4:25pmTalk about somebody having their brains fxxx out
Report Post »Favored93
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 4:47pmWOW is about all I can say.
Report Post »They have “free” education courtesy of us the tax payer and now they are demanding we pay for their sexual fun!!! UNBELIEVABLE!!!! Not to mention the issues of religious liberty this is an OUTRAGE.
How dare they demand more from a Nation that is beyond broke!
Female
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 4:49pmI heard Aspirin cures this ailment.
But, my mama always said holding a dime between the knees would cure it too!
An aspirin should be cheeper than a dime, that is as long as you don’t buy it while in the hospital with medical cover….then it costs about $50!
Report Post »libtardian-refugee
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 4:59pmShe doesn’t need a condom, she needs a paper bag over her head
Report Post »WeDontNeedNoSteenkinBadges12
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:00pm” ‘Mind-Numbing’ Audio of a Law Student Telling Congress Why Religious Colleges Should Pay for Her Birth Control”
So this bitch wants someone else to pay for her fornication? Fornication is a death penalty crime and you, Ms. Bitch, must pay for that yourself.
Next …
Report Post »potvin
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:02pmI agree.
Report Post »KPEdwards
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:06pmYou small, pathetic ants. From what most of you put down, you couldn’t be bothered with listening to the whole testimony. About how birth control does more than prevent pregnancy. How it is used to prevent ovarian cysts. How it is used to help regulate a women’s menstruation cycle. How it is used to reduce the risk of various cancers.
Instead, you assail this woman with some of the most horrid insults you can think of. I watched the entire Beck clip, and was absolutely disgusted that they felt it necessary to edit out the section where she talks about the person who had to get an ovary removed because she couldn’t afford her medication. And why is it she couldn’t afford it, because people just like you decided that her condition wasn’t the reason she wanted her medication.
You couldn’t care less for your fellow man.
Report Post »morningbird1
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:10pmLets not allow the liberal progressives to blur the lens. This is not about women’s health!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Its such a lie and I’m tired of hearing it.
IF YOU WANT BIRTH CONTROL OR OTHER CONTRACEPTIVES PAY FOR IT YOURSELF!!!!!!!
This argument is absurd and disgusting…This couldn’t be a better illustration, in a mountain of examples, of why this country is eroding into oblivion. Wake Up!!!!
alinga
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:16pmThat water is obviously in Georgetown as well as Pelozi’s office. Well guys one thing for sure Georgetown should now rank as the #1 party school in the Ivy League. 40% of the female student body are paying for some very expensive contraception and that blame falls on whom? How do they pick those who are given to waste the time of our representatives.
Report Post »Silversmith
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:20pmThis gal is out to lunch on so many levels. Her concern that a bureaucracy making decisions for health care instead of doctors and patients is the hallmark concern against Obamacare. (only good if it gets you what you want – today right? – what about tomorrow?) The sad story about her gay friend? If, as she claims, the students are paying for the insurance themselves, why do they not get themselves a different policy? There is no law I’m aware of – pending Obamacare again – that designates who you must by your insurance from.
Usury – Foolish conclusions – No responsibility.
Bad argument Sandra
Silversmith
Report Post »Leader1776
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:37pm@encinom
Report Post »Stay on point. Try not to deflect the argument. Also, anyone with a slight knowledge of pharmacology knows EVEN the current low dose pills put women at a significantly higher risk blood clots. Not as high, but a significant risk. So this business of saying OCs are for women’s health is a load of crap as is most statements from the mouths of leftist / progressives.
Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:50pmShe is a SLUT!
Report Post »Ari Ben TZion
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:54pmThis is the type of society we are building. People who believe they are entitled to everything.
Lady, if you wanna get banged, that’s fine. But do it with your own money.
Report Post »college4life
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:01pmReally…it cost $3000 for 3 years for the pill…where are they buying this from, a street pharmacist??
Report Post »If they just went down to this little know store called Wal-mart those pooooor girls could buy a months worth for $9. That’s right, those ooohhh so educated college students and their rights that are being taken away from them can yes, get a three year supply for 9×12x3 = $324 (I hope I don’t need to explain the math to them too).
So, yea stop buying your medicine from the street pharmacist and go to Wal-mart.
Ohhh, here the link to Wal-mart’s Generic Drug List: (Note the contraception name is Sprintec)
http://i.walmart.com/i/if/hmp/fusion/genericdruglist.pdf
AvengerK
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:18pmAgain LOCKED..I know you’re “locked” on mincing and parsing words but Bannister is being facetious by citing the “condom” price argument. His pricing is accurate however. The clinics are there for Two Bag Fluke and her over-sexed sorority sisters to take advantage of. There’s absolutely no need for her to demand the church be co-erced into paying for her sexual proclivities. The big picture LOCKED…please try to see it. I know you‘re obsessive about mincing and parsing words and you’re as myopic as they come..but if someone’s leading you to the bigger picture..acknowledge it. Fluke is nothing but a militant leftist seeking to undermine the church and get “free stuff” at someone else’s expense, even it means urinating on the first amendment to do it. I won’t responding to anymore of your circular posts on this subject. You’re quite tireseome and a crushing bore.
Report Post »blamelessace5
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:19pmTHE WHOLE POINT OF SEX is to procriate !!!!!! not for an college party / late night orgy at george town.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:24pmSaran wrap and duct tape, five bucks…
Report Post »dumbgrunt33
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:29pmIt‘s gotta be because just 5 years ago you wouldn’t of heard this. For the Romans it was supposedly the lead in the pipes, maybe its something that stores or processes food.
Report Post »Evantoo
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:36pmThis stupid broad needs to teach her over-sexed and under-brained “college” friends to keep their legs crossed. Who the *&%* does she think she is that OTHER people should pay for HER to play around!
Report Post »Nick84
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:38pmEveryone here needs to realize that she isn’t asking for someone else to buy her birth control. She is asking for her insurance company (that she pays) to cover the costs. It’s disgusting that so many people here think she is just arguing for someone to buy her condoms. Did anyone actually watch her testimony?
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:42pmHer name is Fluke… not hard to understand with a name like that: that she’s able to breathe and sit are a Fluke…
Report Post »The very fact she can open her mouth is a Fluke…
That her parents didn’t abort her is a Fluke…
That someone would actually have sex with her is a Fluke…
TH30PH1LUS
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:50pmTo translate:
“The Gub’ment should make others provide me with free __________, and here‘s some sob stories of people who didn’t get any free _________.”
Has ANY LIBERAL stopped to consider for a moment that humanity has managed to get along for several thousands years just fine without government mandated condoms and pills?
SO SICK of the whining and demands that everyone else shoulder the burdens of the self-centered and self-absorbed of our society.
Freedom of Religion IS an ACTUAL Constitutional Right in America (not a made-up “right” like free education, etc.). EARTH-TO-LIBERALS, there are religions that frown upon contraceptives. I thought you LIBERALS were supposed to be educated? Didn’t you know that?
If you don’t like that opinion, you are free to NOT participate in that religion, or in its institutions.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:51pm@Avengerk
“but Bannister is being facetious by citing the “condom” price argument. His pricing is accurate however.”
Funny, I never debated the price of condoms; implying I did so is a (say it together class!) strawman argument :-) My point has always been that he‘s making a strawman argument by claiming she’s talking only about condoms and not contraception in total.
“There’s absolutely no need for her to demand the church be co-erced into paying for her sexual proclivities.”
Thankfully, she’s not. She’s insisting that her insurance, for which she herself must pay, be held to the same standards as other organizations as mandated by law. Her church is not involved.
“Fluke is nothing but a militant leftist seeking to undermine the church and get “free stuff” at someone else’s expense”
Odd that you claim it is free (although she pays for her insurance). Even if she has clinics nearby, she’ll still need to buy insurance. No such thing as a free lunch, Avengerk! How about what I said before; since there are vaccine drives, free physicals, and blood testing centers, should these procedures also not be covered in health insurance?
“I won’t responding to anymore of your circular posts on this subject. You’re quite tireseome and a crushing bore.”
Sounds good, I’ll just keep helpfully nudging you when you respond to others then :-)
Report Post »Ayla_me
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:53pmThis little girl makes me ill! My daughter suffered from ovarian cysts, and no, the contraceptive pills, which would have kept them from recurring, were not covered by my husband’s insurance policy. We paid for them ourselves. (We could have gotten them for free or near-nothing at Planned Parenthood, but..) This girl talks of her “friend” who was diagnosed, and then contemptuously adds“ My friend is gay”, as to why a contraceptive motive was not the primary one. Excuse me…but they are lucky to be able to attend the Jesuit University in the first place. CHASTITY is what is called for…chastity of all kinds… Second, she tries to tear up for her dear friend who had an ovary removed (or was having one removed) and how she would be undergoing early menopause. My biology understanding is that if a woman has at least one working ovary, she will not suffer thus. Finally, she pleads with the committee about how this same “friend” will never give her poor mother “the grandchild she so longed for”. My oldest daughter was told by 3 doctors that she would never become pregnant due to the cysts. She was also cautioned that if she ever DID become pregnant, she or the baby, could die. It all had absolutely nothing to do with access to healthcare! I accepted the fact that my daughter would be barren, as did she and her husband. I am proud to say that she has miraculously given birth to 3 wonderful children. This little kid needs to pray for herself and her friend and turn from t
Report Post »IvanK
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 7:22pmHere’s how you can save some money whore.. Keep your legs closed.
Report Post »If you can’t keep your legs closed, perhaps you can have the men supply the rubbers… Geeze, how pathetic is this tramp?
Twobyfour
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 7:28pmlibtardian-refugee: “She doesn’t need a condom, she needs a paper bag over her head”
My though exactly, though with a “WTF — ” prefix.
Apparently, there are some desperate loser schmucks that would lay her, one time only per schmuckie. I can’t imagine anything else without mind altering drugs, even a bottle of rum may be insufficient.
But the issue isn’t really her sexual habits (if not within the scope of imaginary friends entirely), as someones noted already here.
Report Post »JimCDew
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 7:30pmMs. Fluke is a law student, since when have law students had time for sex? When I was a law student my wife and I hardly saw each other and I was the one too tired for sex.
Report Post »As for the “other medical uses” I know dozens of lawyers itching to sue insurers who refuse to pay for medically necessary prescriptions. Major class action territory.
The woman is a liberal fraud with poorly reasoned arguments, and I doubt she will survive the mental rigors of actual law practice.
eagle275
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 7:41pmWow, she’s a proud skank,eh? Wonder how many STD‘s she’s got???
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 7:52pmeagle275: “Wow, she’s a proud skank,eh? Wonder how many STD‘s she’s got???”
I would venture a bet that not many, if any. The suggestions that her listed costs are so high because they may be attributed to a need to pay for sex have some merit.
That still keeps her in a skank territory as a skank-wannabe.
Report Post »xenolith
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 9:32pmThey must be putting something in the water. It’s the only thing i can think of…
Could it be the fluoride or chlorine maybe? Maybe they’ve already started putting statins in the water, and haven’t told anyone yet? One thing’s for sure, nobody seems to have figured out why some people seem very susceptible to its influence while others seem to be totally immune. ;-)
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 9:32pmQuick Fix. Put a toll booth on this six lane highway.
Report Post »LookTowardsTheLight
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 9:53pmI don’t understand why she is testifying?
Look at her, I doubt she is getting laid.
Report Post »Grey Eagle
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 9:58pmSurely they checked with the school’s insurance policy before starting school? Either way, they can go to Planned Parenthood and get low cost contraceptives. (not abortions) I do not want to pay for their contraceptives and resent being told I have to. This mandate is about forcing religious institutions to pay for something against their beliefs. The first amendment is freedom of religion, and Obama is breaking that. He totally ignores the constitution.
Report Post »ALPHAMEL
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 9:59pmIf I can’t get coverage for Cialis to promote reproduction, how could she expect coverage for contraception?
Report Post »BlenGeck
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:01pmToo bad she’s not just a fluke of society. But she has proved she a whore, imo.
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 12:06amHer mother should have swallowed her.
Report Post »beekeeper
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 1:52am@beckisdelusional – Viagra, seriously?
OK, from the top:
Every prescription drug plan does not cover Viagra, and very few of the ones that do offer it without a copayment.
A woman can take ‘the pill’ everyday for up to 25 years (ages 15-40), men who do take Viagra tend to not take it every day (it gets expensive, see above) and has only been on the market for what, 10 years?
Viagra is a medication to overcome a medical condition, a problem. ‘The Pill’ is about causing problems in the body to prevent it doing what it otherwise would do.
If this is really about Women’s health, why is the pill preferable to any form of contraceptive that also prevents the spread of AIDS/STDs?
If this is an accessibility issue, how can supporters claim 98% of women use contraceptives? By comparison, 98% of women don’t have access to clean drinking water…
If this is a cost issue, how can supporters claim that 98% use contraceptives – somebody’s been paying for it?
And finally, the issue can’t be cost, because the left keeps telling us that giving away free contraceptives doesn’t cost anything (that‘s why insurance companies csn’t raise their premiums to pay for this), in fact it saves money compared to the cost of all the children that won’t be born.
Now, are you arguing that men should get free Viagra w/o copayment? If not, why not? You‘ve already equated Viagra and ’the pill’, men still have to pay for Viagra – that’s not fair!
Report Post »rwhopt
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 2:28amLet’s see, minimum wage is around $7.25/ hour. If you work 5 weeks during your summer break, that would equal 40 hours/week x $7.25/hour x 5 weeks= $1450.00/ year. And you need $1000/year for your birth control. Then what you are telling me is that you want me and others pay your $1000 for your birth control because you and others like you will not work 5 weeks/year and cannot keep your legs together? Like I tell my kids, why should I put more sweat into the game than you are willing to do?
Report Post »PS: Please give me your number when you become a lawyer, I want to make sure I never call it.
mauijonny
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 3:42amI’ve chosen to live in a state with lots of sunshine. I might have a higer risk of skin cancer. I can’t believe this state would allow me to live like this. As a person, I’m NOT going to compromise my want to live in this state for a less sunshiney state…DO SOMETHING, Ninny Puh!
Report Post »Gb_rebel
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 5:32amI myself do not think taxpayers (myself) should have to pay for her or anyone else to
Report Post »have sex. If you can not afford a car then you can not drive one ! Sex is no different .
You my dear should exercise restraint and get a new job that will pay for you to have
sex out of wedlock ! You go to a church type school. Or are you just nuts and can not
connect the dots. Oh, I know the world owes you everything. THINK AGAIN!!!!
yeah I got an itch
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 7:21amshe felt so powerless because she had to go ho’n and nobody else would support her saintly endeavors. she should feel ashamed for being such a loser before she even graduates.
If there was ever proof that college is a joke. I will not be retaining her services.
Report Post »friendfor truth
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 7:30amI agree. We are burning up. Very sad.
Report Post »phil1765
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 8:07amI am reminded of the saturday night live skit with Jane Curtin. What in the hell makes you think that your birth control should be provided to you at no cost? I have a birth contol method that won’t cost you a damn dime, keep your freaking legs together and take the bag off your head. By this womans opinion I would take it that any medication that keeps you well or cures an illness should be provided at no cost, won’t it be a wonderful world when everything we need will be provided to us by the all-knowing all-caring federal government? Give me a break if you want to have sex pay for your OWN birth control if you can‘t afford the birth control don’t have sex. NUFF SAID.
Report Post »anna logan
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 8:13amI agree, look at her stupid looking dazed face. Stunning.
Report Post »Ayla_me
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 8:19amI agree with what Zero said: It is about RELIGIOUS Freedom, people! If my faith-based college, university, hospital, school, church, etc, does not feel morally right in offering ANYTHING to its customers, employees, students, etc, it should NOT, under the Constitution of the United States of America, be compelled to do so!!! It makes me cry how fast our “Freedom of Religion” is being turned into “freedom FROM religion”. Whoever heard of such a thing…until now. :-(
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 8:34amTell her to keep her panties on, then she won’t need birth control provided or otherwise.
Report Post »AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 11:05amNo wonder the law profession is so chock full of shysters. The expression “shyster lawyer” is virtually redundant.
Report Post »lovenfl3
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 12:15pmYou simply can’t make this stuff up. I love how it always comestdown to a choice between food and…..fill in the blank. Hey sweetheart, I’d pick the food if I were you.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o35_9qcK0U0
Zenzazin
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 1:24pm@Mike N – “Contraceptives are given for a condition that does not yet exist” – then why do so many doctors prescribe birth control pills to women/girls as a means to fight the growth of ovarian cysts and cancer?? these pills can be hundreds of dollars a month, so you actually are showing that you don’t really know what you are talking about. it IS medication.
“Now, think about all of the medical benefits that will be denied for lack of funding because of diversion of funding to contraception. Treatments for infections, viruses, appendicitis, broken bones, mammograms . . .” – since the gov’t is not funding contraceptives, nor will hospitals or doctors be personally responsible to cover the costs, once again, your example is wrong and inaccurate.
“Your are so self-serving – blinded by your own “needs”” – I know. It is SO selfish to want women to have affordable access to the medications they and their doctors deem necessary. Trying to force my own religious views on the rest of the country is not in any way self-serving.
Report Post »Fireguarding
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 2:22pmSo, she went in as a Lib plant, to a Catholic University, knowing the policy (She stated all this, in her testimony), ON A SCHOLARSHIP, throws out a figure of $3,000 for women’s “health,” talks about a ‘friend’ who DIED from lack of contraception (!?)… I think she’s already been through law school, and is an undercover operative from Barry! If not, how long do you think it is before she’s on staff? Seriously! All this is an effort to disenfranchise those of us who DON’T want to have, be party to, or pay for abortions – either chemical or aspriation, early or late-term. She and Barry are telling us, “Phark You, Most of Americans! You’re going to do what we tell you to, like it or not!” This is NOT about women’s health, it‘s about Big Gov’s right to RULE you, against the explicit protections of the First Amendment!
Report Post »txmexconserv48
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 2:34pmI’m old and confused. I’ve seen her picture. Why would she need birth control to have sex with another woman? Is there something I’m missing here?
Report Post »brezzeone
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 4:49pmThis is a crazy world inwhich we live….
Report Post »GoodSis
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 5:45pmJust wait, it will soon be proposed. Aren’t some already discussing placing contraceptives in our drinking water? (Cass Sustein?) Nutty eugenics tactics…
As for you, Ms. Flake from Georgetown University, you are COMPLETELY FREE TO CHOOSE how you will conduct your sexual lifestyle, or any other ELECTIVE pursuit, practice, activity, hobby, or night at the bar. Just don’t ask m e to finance it!
You are demanding that others in the plan pay for your unnecessary add-ons. Next, you’ll be demanding we pay for your Manicure-Pedicure each Friday afternoon (pink and white, with sparkles, please!). Nice if you can get it, but a whim just the same–not a necessity in life to be demanded from others.
Report Post »GoodSis
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 5:56pmAnd, Ms. Flake, I find your strawman argument illogical and off-topic : “My Lesbian friend, who obviously doesn’t need contraception, was denied this medication to treat her ever-growing cysts.”
Most women request contra-ception for the expressed purpose of inhibiting one’s ability to conceive (as the name indicates). A relatively small number of women require contraceptives to treat gynecological problems such as your friends’. Pregnancy is not a gynecological problem. It is a condition one generally causes to occur.
If this “friend” even exists, why did you not offer her assistance in getting to another clinic? It appears she was foolish to not seek the hormones her body required to inhibit cysts from forming. Hormones can be delivered in other formulas besides by BC. Did your friend just ignore the problem, or was she too embarrased or lazy to seek alternate care after being presented with the facts. You know, it is “so degrading” being seen down at the free clini ic…
Report Post »schlitten15
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 9:52pmDidn’t look to bright to me. She ought to use her brains instead of worrying about contraception. Give me a break. This country is really going insane.
Report Post »TRUTHSENSE
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 11:39pmHey, why should I have to pay for my Viagra? Bunch of sexist men hating women. And they accuse those of us on the right of being hateful, sexist, and discriminatory!
Report Post »Virgil_Lance
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 11:40pmEnough about her – what about MY HEALTH NEEDS! I also feel powerless and helpless over my inability to afford to purchase and consume Oysters Rockefeller at least once per day. Oysters have long been known as an aphrodisiac and I just can‘t seem to eat them unless they’re prepared according to the Rockefeller recipe. I feel that my health care demands are every bit as reasonable as her’s.
Report Post »Virgil_Lance
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 11:51pmShe might be just a law student now, but she will be a member of the U.S. Supreme Court by the end of Obama’s second term!
Report Post »Rob in Katy
Posted on March 2, 2012 at 12:36amDo we actually have to wait until they are lawyers before we line the bottom of the ocean with them? Personally, growing up in my neighborhood, I know people that would shoot you it you tried to take $3000 from them…
Report Post »Rob in Katy
Posted on March 2, 2012 at 12:47amdidn’t the guy used to drop 30-40-50 on a date, couldn’t they swing another $1 and buy a rubber?
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on March 2, 2012 at 1:38amMr. Qstixx,
Report Post »Yours has to be the most on-point comment so far this year. I realize the year is early yet, but I think your comment will hold up for quite awhile. This woman should be nominated for “Slut of the Year” award.
meeterman
Posted on March 2, 2012 at 10:40amIt should be the partys ( couples) responsibility about what contraceptives to use. Why should I help pay for pre marital or consensual sex?All of the sudden the government has to make this an issue? Its all about what they are going to get out of it . Its not about contraceptives, its much bigger than than that.
Report Post »grannygert
Posted on March 2, 2012 at 2:07pmhey cookie…just raise your fees for services rendered. you might just turn a profit.
Report Post »Free_Thinker
Posted on March 2, 2012 at 6:33pmI think these girls share way to much with each other…… or she’s just a major liar. I’m going with the latter.
Report Post »sixtysix
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 10:54amAt first I thought she was a ditzy teen-ager. Then I discovered she is a ditzy thirty-year-old. Then I heard her name and I thought, maybe they mispelled it. If she wants us to pay for her birth control, we deserve to know a little more about her. We need to know who she dates and how often. How can we track our investment otherwise?
Report Post »Goodforall
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 11:01amThis is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard! This woman is more concerned with having sex (with obviously many different partners) than getting her law degree. Then she gets insulted with Rush calls it like it is. If she wants wanton sex she needs to pay foir her own birth control, bot the school of the taxpayers.
Report Post »Grandparay
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 11:46amwow ,,,as I go down thru and read the comments,,,seems no one has mercy
Report Post »for someone who expects someone else to pay for her sex life. What in the
world is happening to this country that I fought for, and many have fought and
died for. Have we become so spoiled rotten that our eyes have glazed over.
We want other people to pay for our health care, we want other people to pay
us for not working. We want other people to pay because we had children we cannot
afford to take care of. In other word we want other people to pay for our stupidity.
This country is the most blessed nation in this world. If you don’t believe it
go live in some other country for a while. Our freeway system, our roads, our
air and ground travel are superior. Yet we are not satisfied. We continue to be
dependent on our Government, when in truth the Governments job is only to keep
us safe. I am appalled at this lady who is not married and having so much sex that
she cannot afford all the contraception she needs. Then Rush Limbaugh speaks
the truth and every news agency in America, even the President (I hate calling him that)
has spoken on her behalf, even called her to make sure she was ok, May God have Mercy
Don39
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 2:41pmA Fluke can be an accident, or it can be a parasite, both may well apply here as either term aptly fits the typical leftist. Here we have a typicxal fluke(parasite) preying on the taxpayers!
Report Post »Mitchina
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 5:21pmI didn’t think Dikes needed birht Control? And besides, if they want to have “reproductive rights”, fine… they can have them. The right to do any ole’ thing they want to with them – just shut up and sit down about making us pay for your efin uterus rights. THAT is not your right. AND, if you want a very inexpensive way to control birth, try abstinence…. use that on your mouths as well.
Report Post »Pecatonica
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 8:18pmGreat responses. Twit is the only word I can come up with.
Report Post »APPAULED
Posted on March 13, 2012 at 1:41pmYes, I agree and you have been affected mentally. Do you not hear the reason? Why in Gods name are they saying taxpayers would pay for it? She just wants to coverage available and is willing to pay for it through a premium and co-pay. It is necessary coverage and anyone who can’t see it is absolutely brainwashed. Beware, your prescriptions will also be taken off the list of covered medications if you open the door and support this mentality. Who are the true communists here? Republicans, thats who. They were in power for 8 yrs yet changed nothing reagarding abortion. Why now? Promising the impossible to gain votes, thats why. And you are falling for it and opening the door to insurance companies and employers to make your decisions for you. Screw what you and your doctor feel is necessary for your health.
Report Post »MAJORMINOR
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:31amBe responsible for yourself…
Report Post »When I was growing up we had hospitalization (which is exactly that) because my parents paid for the doctor visit and medications out of their own pocket. Today, you can’t get an insurance company to offer just such a policy because they are loaded up with too many “entitlements”.
I know we are not going to put the give away “Genie” back in the bottle…but what if you could get such a major medical policy today? The young could afford such a policy and maybe eliminate the need for us to pay for all the uninsured who just do not purchase coverage??
Papadoc
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:41amOh the humiliation and embarrassment of buying your own contraception. Last I knew, no insurance covers condoms, so that explains how no male ever wants to have sex… it’s too embarrassing!
Report Post »Papadoc
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:47amShe‘s humiliated that she can’t get contraception on her insurance, but not so embarrassed to admit she has three guys a day? Poor little tart! I am however, pretty sure that such an admission is tantamount to an explanation of why VD is so rampant. Someone get the bleach!
Report Post »happ77
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:57pmMajor, I sold Group Health Insurance back in the late 80‘s early 90’s in CT.
Report Post »Back then a male cost his employer $50 a month a female about $70.
The policy was a $100 deductible then paid 100% of all NECESSARY MEDICAL CARE,
Doctors Hospitals Medications. Then the state said you need to cover invetro fertilization, because life
isn‘t fair to people who can’t have kids, then we needed to cover the pill because life isn’t fair to
people who don’t want kids, now we need to cover Viagra because life isn‘t fair to people who can’t
(fill in the blank yourself).
AgInCarolina
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:31amThe truth is…some people are just stupid whores.
Report Post »wilsonj72
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:35amQuit school and get a job!
Report Post »wilsonj72
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:37amsry your right about brainless sheep
Report Post »nelbert
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:51am@WilsonJ72:
And given her evident experience, I can guess what that job might be.
Report Post »EchoHawk
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:52amAnd some choose to display their stupidity just like AgInCarolina.
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:31amAs absolutely horrible life is around her…Better she takes a swan dive off a bridge for the cause…Gee these dam Commies they always have a friend with some strange symptom the whole world has to stop for or a in this case more monetary need everyone is supposed to take care of …New age progressive commie” …
Report Post »socialism.rocks
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:31amyou guys are utter morons then church needs to get out of the secular world and get back to the religious part of religion no problems eh
Report Post »Papadoc
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:38amI always love it when ‘that guy’ who can’t construct a coherent sentence calls other people morons.
Report Post »rosecityken
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:56amtry taking responsibility for your own actions…its a B!t(# but hey so are alot of things. like watchin my tax dollars going to idots like this pooor unfortunate LAW SCHOOL STUDENT WHO GOT A SCHOLARSHIP. give her an education AND contraception. what do we get out of it again? o yeah higher taxes. we are on the path that greece is and liberals want to spend MORE.
Report Post »db321
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:02pmSocialism.Rocks – you guys are utter morons then church needs to get out of the secular world and get back to the religious part of religion no problems eh
You want God Out! – Then take it up with God! I will remove God form my life when God tells me too – not when Obama, Satan or you tell me too. WARNING – this is not a topic where you are protected under the anonymous of the internet – God WILL hold you accountable for your statement, your vote and your actions.
Unless you plan on living forever!
Report Post »SilverBlaze
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:11pmanother idiot Lib and Kool-aid drinker
Report Post »LIBS-ARE-DINGLEHEADS
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:26pmActually, it is YOU that is a moron…moron. Simple economics can blow apart this hags’ testimony – but don’t leave that to you socialists. You never went to math class.
Some thoughts for you to ponder.
Look at the above mathematical conclusions. Either this hagolopolus is screwing all the damn time, or she is a out and out LYING! Moreover, what imbecile is she screwing? Who WOULD screw her???
She’s as ugly as a barn door. A lawyer to boot! A double-craploa stigma.
Why don’t you “rock on”…over in Sweden? Oh yeah….that’s right. They won’t let you in, as you don’t have any MONEY, nor any skills – other than TAKING other people’s money.
Go soak your head in cider….if you can steal some, you parasite.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 9:09pmLIBS-ARE-DINGLEHEADS: “She’s as ugly as a barn door.”
Now, now! I’ve seen some barn doors and they are downright pretty in comparison!
Yes, she’s lying to buttress her “argument”. Some women aren’t visually that pretty, but often have inner beauty that shines through. She has a several lack of either. And a lawyer to boot!
Report Post »It is interesting, though, that she has no shame–not for lying, nor for making herself a skank (wannabe). Can you say sociopath? I knew you could.
Markf
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 7:48amSocialism has started more wars and killed more people than anything else in history, includung all religions combined. YOU are the enemy, Ms Fluke is the pawn. NO ONE cares who you screw or don’t screw. This is about personal responsibility to a conservative and bringing down religion for the left. With no due respect, Mark f
Report Post »Henrys_Ghost
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:31am“At a dollar a condom if she shops at CVS pharmacy’s website, that $3,000 would buy her 3,000 condoms – or, 1,000 a year…Assuming it’s not a leap year, that’s 1,000 divided by 365 – or having sex 2.74 times a day, every day, for three straight years”
3000 dollars a year, those are her words? Can we check the transcript?
Wow, I wish I would have went to Georgetown? She really gets around!
Report Post »db321
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:47amThis is no Fluke – What Fluke is saying, all women at Georgetown are easy to get in the sack!
Too all Young man in a 100 mile radius of Georgetown University – grab a hand full of condoms and RUN to help out the young whores at Georgetown. don’t worry – For your sake – I hope most women at Georgetown don’t look this Ms. Fluke.
He who think they to be wise – becomes a fool. Now Ms. Fluke – stop the BS and tell up what the real concern is. You want God out of the Country – Don’t you.
Report Post »Papadoc
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:56amWhat did she say she was doing to get her degree?
Report Post »encinom
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:28pmThe condoms bit was a part of the lies told by Craig Bannister, Fluke talked of medication and Bannister is attempting to stone the truth teller with libelous lies. Fluke should sue him for slander.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:31amThese people seem to want guarantees on everything and everything paid for… sounds like they want perfection … ah … heaven … yo… just keep God out .. cause he will just mess it up. We can do this without him.
Report Post »JBaer
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:47amNow that there is a great response 4Truth2All and unfortunately oh so true.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:43pmYep, progressive liberalism believes in a world of sunshine and lollipops. Only the sunshine they bring causes cancer, and the lollipops decay.
Report Post »cyclops
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:31amWow………there is no place with common sense and controlling (abstinence) our sex drive any more in society anymore huh? I guess the government, mandating organizations out there on they should do or not do is the answer huh?……………………………………………NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Peter Yohansen
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:30amNo free sex? What is the world coming to? What are these poor poor college students going to do now that they’ve been denied their reproductive rights? Will they have to live like people did hundreds of years ago? In lonely log cabins far away from their families? They can’t get their contraception for free? I’m sorry but that leans more towards a privilege than a right. If you can buy it, good for you! If you can’t, don’t.
Hold on… when I hear “reproductive rights” I think of a woman being given the right TO reproduce, while unfavorable to enforce on some, it is at least something that women should if need be fight for.
Report Post »litrex18
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:41amsee, even POTUS considers the ramifications of “loose actions” ie., pregnancy is a punishment!
Report Post »Her parents probably never punished her for improper behavior, so the poor thing just doesn’t know any better.
13th Imam
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:30amFLUKE- a bottom dwelling flat fish of the Paralichthyidae Family. Left eyed, they can change color to imitate their surroundings.
FLUKE- a Parasitic Worm infecting shellfish and fish, sucking the life out of them , with No benefit to their host
Report Post »EchoHawk
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:49am13th Imam, a cretinous troglodyte that dwells sanctimoniously in it’s own excrement.
Report Post »academica2020
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:02pmSo, to the both of you, after the sarcasm, what’s your perspective on this?
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:03pmEcho
Report Post »Your definition of Fluke works as well
13th Imam
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:17pm2020
I am a Conservative. Echo is from the Communist TAKER class
Report Post »encinom
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:44pmEchoHawk
Report Post »Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:49am
13th Imam, a cretinous troglodyte that dwells sanctimoniously in it’s own excrement.
____________
I have to correct you you, 13th Iman dwells in his own santorum.
EchoHawk
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:19pmacademica2020, I appreciate your honest question. Although Ms. Fluke’s testimony is admittedly anecdotal, personally I would err on the side of caution. The “separation clause” and the advent of modern medicine has presented a subtlety that the Framers couldn’t have anticipated. The states legitimate obligation in this case is to ensure that the individuals civil liberty is not infringed upon by the Church’s “conscientious objection”. Specifically, if the Church objects to the funding of hormonal birth control on the grounds that one of it’s tenets is birth control is forbidden, then the Church has no legal standing in denying the individual described by Ms. Fluke. One the medication at issue has been found to prevent some forms of ovarian cysts and two the individual that Ms. Fluke described is purported to be a lesbian so the likelihood that she used the medication as birth control is eliminated.
Report Post »academica2020
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:44pm@ECHOHAWK:
Report Post »I don’t want to freak you or ENCINOM out, but I do agree that, if the hormone pills are prescribed for a medical reason, than I have no objection. If they are strictly for contraception, I do. In the latter case, the individual should pay for them, as do men when it comes to condoms. May be simplistic, but it is not a religiously based opinion, just mine.
encinom
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:09pm@academica2020
Report Post »What about the little blue pill, that the Catholic Church has no problem paying for? This does send the message that there is a double standard within the Church as they view who is responsible for the outcomes of sex.
academica2020
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:23pm@ENCINOM:
Report Post »Unless it is for strictly medical reasons, it should not be paid for by the employer, period (and that includes the “little blue pill”).
academica2020
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:30pm@ENCINOM:
Report Post »I am impressed, you haven’t insulted me yet!
You must be off your game today.
encinom
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:50pm@academica2020
You are missing the issue, its not that the contraceptives or the little blue pill are being ppaid for, it is that the Church has refused to include insurance coverage for one set of medications solely on arbitrary grounds. Obama’s plan for health insurers to provide contraceptives for free, only came about because the Church refused to allow their employees the option to have such medication available to them through the insurance plans the employees pay for.
Report Post »EchoHawk
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:56pmThe whole point of the argument being made on this issue is simply that the Church’s “conscientious objection” infringes upon the liberty of the individual. I don‘t hear a great hue and cry that the individual doesn’t retain the right to obtain this form of contraception and the assertion that the women arguing that they want the prescription provided for free is inaccurate at best.The Church, in this case attempts to make the argument that it suffers harm by endorsing or condoning a health care plan that includes hormonal contraception. This appears in affect to declare Church dogma superior to individual liberty, contrary to the First Amendment, inasmuch as governments defense of the Church, according to the Constitution, is secondary to it’s defense of individual liberties.
Report Post »MemphisViking
Posted on March 2, 2012 at 12:49pmEchohawk, the church isn’t infringing on her civil liberties unless they are preventing her from buying birth control. Forcing the church to pay for something they oppose is infringing on the civil liberties of the members of said church.
Report Post »zman61
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:30amcome on over to my house I will help you out with that. I have a case of duct tape. I will tape your knees together. Problem solves and only cost about $1
Report Post »caladesi
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:30amUnbelievable, simply unbelievable!
Report Post »litrex18
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:29amWant free contraception? Don’t have sex! That’s free.
Report Post »For every action, there is a cost involved. Choose those actions carefully, and pay for them yourself.
It’s call responsibility.
saywhaat
Posted on March 3, 2012 at 9:25amHysterical Liberals need to calm down. There is no “war on women”. Just another fabricated rallying cry. Liberalism is a disease that is destroying our American way of life. And the pathology of it is showing. Rush is right (correct) as usual. Progressives most always come out of the woodwork, especially before elections to distract the Sheeples that follow them. It is a plan to ignore Obama’s dismal record. Not one of his twisted lies, used to gather the flock of “gimme gimme liberals” has mateterialized for them. The pied piper has led this country to the cliff”s edge. So they are looking for confirmation that their “King” was the right choice, and are quite willing to repeat their mistake again, hoping for different results. They will not admit they were wrong in their last vote. Apparently, this is too damaging to their egos and false expectations for the “Good Life”. How else will they go forward with their selfish, irresponsible lives?
Report Post »Lelouch
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 8:53pmI couldn’t agree more.
Report Post »blanco5
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:29amShe must make her parents so proud.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:28amWe need a spiritual awakening n this country!!
Fornication (sex before marriage) is a sin. Plain and simple.
I am not advocating a theocracy, just follow the tenets of your religion.
God will not be mocked.
How much money is spent (wasted) by people who fail to follow the doctrine of their religion.
I would consider these expenditures as a “sin” tax – to be paid for by the sinner.
Report Post »00gabooga
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:27amMight be a good investment in her case. I think we‘re all better off if she doesn’t reproduce.
Report Post »Unomas712
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:27amI propose the students that study and remain celibate should get an award for 3,000.00! Good luck finding a job when you get out of Georgetown, you’ve made such a fool of yourself. Although sounds like the oldest profession in the world might have an opening for her.
Report Post »Unomas712
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:32amShe could probably get a job with the government, I heard Bill Clinton was looking for an aide!
Report Post »huey6367
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:26amLet’s see … who chooses to have sex? That should be who pays for it. And where do you get $3000 a year? Not having sex is free. Even “taking care of it yourself” cost nothing. Are you hiring professionals?
And we have to listen to this why? So we can all see we are not as stupid as we sometimes think we may be.
Never had someone pay for my contraception. Never had anyone pay for anything for me (except my parents when I was a child. This is what it has become – it is someone else’s responsibility to take care of me.
Report Post »momsense
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:32pmAll these whiners should take their promiscuous a@@es to Planned Parenthood for their contraception which the tax payer is already paying for.or close their da@n legs. Just another taker hoping to put the payment for her fun amd games on the shoulders of others.
Report Post »dissent
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:54pmMy wife and I pay roughly $100 for a years supply of pills, out of our own damn pockets without insurance, I hardly call it a hardship. Either this broad is lying, or liberals are so damn stupid it takes them 30 years to get through law school…
Report Post »pugsly84
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:25amKeep your damn legs crossed then.
Report Post »marjorie faye
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:08pmExactly. But you must understand they believe that would be a form of deprivation as serious as having no food.
Report Post »jmmjr49er
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:21amIt is great to see that Georgetown Unviersity is no longer a Catholic Institution.
I have heard this whiny little lady on TV before and she is just an example of “Give it to me because I deserve it. And my Mommy and Daddy said so. Look at all my trophies.”
Said state of affairs.
Report Post »oldguy49
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:27amnext we will paying for rooms for the night
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:21amHow about quit hanging around bars at “closing time” ..!
Report Post »When all the guys have beer goggles on, that should fix/cure your promiscuity .
Weiners Wiener
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 8:22pmBeer goggles wouldn’t be enough. I’d have to have a blindfold on to get with that ugly skank. For starters, she looks like a man. Second, you know she’s a total slut if she needs a $3000 per year contraception budget. Third, just knowing she’s an insane over the top liberal studying to be a lawyer no less, makes her even more repulsive than she was to begin with. Add it all up, and I can’t fathom how any man would get naked with that monster.
Report Post »T-2
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:21amshe’s pursuing a wrong profession
Report Post »G man
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:20amSTFU! Thank you.
Report Post »celtic jim
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:19amStatistics…..anyone can just make them up. Like everything involved with the lib/progressive mentality their statistics are simply lies. I am so sick of this.
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:16amUmmmm… No…. You can pay for your own BC… No one is denying you the right to buy Birth Control. We just don’t want to have to pay for it for you. You are going to a very expensive law school. You can afford to buy your own BC. Idiots.
Report Post »cyclops
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:39amExcellent point………..LOL!!!!!!!
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:45amSeriously.
Report Post »LegionOfOne
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:46amIf you want it, buy it. I’m not here so you can go and and have a good time on my dime. Cope.
Report Post »AndiAndiAndi
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:51amVery well put. I’m sure common sense will never be embraced during this administration. It’s not evil enough.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:13pmActually they are denying the right. While the Church has no probleming with their insurance policies covering the little blue pill for men (wonder why the Priests need that and the altar boys are nervous), the Church refuses to allow the same medical insurace plans, paid for by the employees to have contraceptives. The Church is again on the wrong side of the issue and is taking a sexist stanc eon basic human rights.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:49pmGeorgetown Boys and Bill Clinton would need a little blue pill to keep up the screwing capabilities of Georgetown Law school skanks.
Report Post »chiroberts
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:44pmEncinom,
Report Post »ED is a diagnosable medical condition (disease) like High Blood Pressure, Diabetes, Cancer…Not wanting to get pregnant is not a disease but a choice, that is the difference.
Lord_Frostwind
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:53pmEncinom, you’re a sad little bigot who thinks touting about “Catholics are molesters” is a decent argument, that’s the exact same thing as saying all hispanics go to the Home Depot for work and all blacks are welfare babies.
I‘m not denying anyone’s right to do something by refusing to pay for it. Her friends seem very committed to being the “village bicycle” at her college, and by all means, their nethers can serve as a clown car for all I care. But they shouldn’t complain when the government, and by proxy myself, don’t dole out the cash for her not to get knocked up, or infected with heaven only knows what. We call that “consequence.”
By the way, what gives you and the others the right to say what people have to provide each other. If it doesn’t seem wrong to you, then I’m going to start charging my ammunition costs to lefties so I can get my practice in.
Report Post »BetterInformed
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 8:16pm@encinom or consevakilla, or any other name you hide behind
Your immature comment about priests and alter boys suggests that you might be jealous. But I am sure you’ve found others to push up your stool.
Report Post »In all likely hood living in the basement and still covered by mommy‘s insurance policy you’re unaware of normal insurance practices. The “blue pill” is covered for folks like your uncle Barney Frank because he claims that not being able to p@ck fudge is a illness. The pill that we all wish your mom would have taken is not generally a required treatment.