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Here‘s a Look at Key Moments in Tuesday’s GOP Debate

Heres a Look at Key Moments in Tuesdays GOP Debate

Republican presidential candidates including former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., Texas Gov. Rick Perry, businessman Herman Cain, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum participate in a Republican presidential debate at Dartmouth College in Hanover, N.H., Tuesday, Oct. 11, 2011. (AP Photo/Andrew Harrer, Pool)

Let’s start by letting the left news site Talking Points Memo distill the entire debate into 100 seconds:

WASHINGTON (AP) — Key moments in Thursday night’s GOP presidential debate:

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Big moment:

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a frontrunner among the Republican contenders, defended the 2008 bank bailout under President George W. Bush — a position that will put him starkly at odds with the tea party.

The $700 billion Wall Street rescue package, Romney said, “was designed to keep not just a collapse of individual banking institutions, but to keep the entire currency of the country worth something.”

To be sure, Romney conceded the bailout’s problems: “Was it perfect? No. Was it well-implemented? No, not particularly. Were there some institutions that should not have been bailed out? Absolutely.”

Herman Cain, who wrote in 2008 that the bailout was a win-win for the taxpayer, said the bailout’s implementation “is where it got off track.”


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Other notable moments:

— In the spotlight: Businessman Herman Cain did more of the talking, touting often his so-called 9-9-9 flat-tax plan. That didn’t stop a retort from Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, a tax lawyer by profession, who told Cain, “when you take the 9-9-9 plan and you turn it upside down, I think the devil’s in the details.”

Editor’s note: See that clip here.

— Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich brought out his fierce intellectual demeanor, assailing Congress for adopting “a truly stupid bill” that would impose automatic spending cuts if budget compromises can’t be met by late November. Gingrich said: “We’re either going to shoot ourselves in the head or cut off our right leg. And we’ll come in — around Thanksgiving — and we‘ll show you how we’re going to cut off the right leg. And the alternative will be shooting ourselves in the head.”

— None of the candidates brought up cap-and-trade, a practice aimed at tamping down pollution by giving economic incentives — and one usually attacked by Republicans.

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On China:

— “I‘m afraid that people who’ve looked at this in the past have been played like a fiddle by the Chinese. And the Chinese are smiling all the way to the bank, taking our currency and taking our jobs and taking a lot of our future.” — Mitt Romney.

— “We have to get used to the fact that as far as the eye can see into the 21st century, it’s going to be the United States and China on the world stage.” — Jon Huntsman.

— “I want to beat China. I want to go to war with China and make America the most attractive place in the world to do business.” — Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum.

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Laugh lines:

— Huntsman, when asked if he favored Cain’s 9-9-9 flat tax program, replied: “I think it’s a catchy phrase. In fact, I thought it was a price of a pizza when I first heard about it, Herman.” Cain, the former chairman and chief executive of Godfather’s Pizza, later fought back: “It didn’t come off a pizza box, no. It was well-studied and well-developed.”


— On Cain and his flat-tax plan: “Explain why, under your plan, all Americans should be paying more for milk, for a loaf of bread and beer?” asked one questioner. “I don’t buy beer,” Cain replied.

“Pennsylvania is not the gas capital of the country; Washington, D.C., is the gas capital of the country.” — Jon Huntsman, responding to quibbling among candidates over whose state was indeed the gas capital — the petroleum kind, that is.

Editor’s note: In this bonus clip Newt Gingrich suggests jail cells for Chris Dodd and Barney Frank:

Comments (231)

  • martinez012577
    Posted on October 12, 2011 at 1:18am

    Ron Paul is our only chance. The man has been right about everything for 30 years. If we dont right the ship this time it sinks.

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    • mad_hatter
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 1:50am

      Here is the whole debate: http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/oct/wapo_bloomberg_debate_review.html

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 2:04am

      I’m sorry, but the only time we ever hear from RON PAUL is when an election comes up. BOTH HE and BACHMANN have been in the house for a number of years and yet they both cry like babies about the DODD FRANK BILL or FANNIE MAE/FREDDIE MAC as if they were never around to BLOW A WHISTLE.

      CAIN is the only one who has the right balance of GUTS and CHARM …some have charm, no one beats him in guts… Santorum was hysterical…Michelle Bachmann was her worst catty self with her corny 999 joke and her CONTINUOUS MOTHER GOOSE litany of how many kids she boarded- some we heard for as long as 3 days… she made a catty mud-wrestling remark about PALIN once..she is just not classy enough or mature enough even at 55… but we don’t have to worry about her, although she‘s playing up to ROMNEY like he’s Star Quarterback…probably hoping for VEEP SPOT. I think he’s smarter than that…she has 0 to offer. Huntsman can’t get over his little Lord Fauntleroy attitude (or TAN IN A CAN); Perry looked most of the night like he’d rather be ANYWHERE but where he was, Newt was good, but he’s always good, but his life doesn’t add up to the Character required..he’d be great in some Cabinet Job. THE ELEPHANT in the room was CAIN. HE was the ADULT whereas (As I’ve read) ROMNEY and PERRY looked/acted like the BOBBSEY TWINS and Christie and Romney are referred to as Tweedle-dee and Tweedle-DUMB. CAIN took it!!

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    • Delete the Elite
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 2:19am

      http://atlantapost.com/2011/05/25/a-real-reason-to-be-mad-at-herman-cain/

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    • Conservative Voice
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 2:21am

      You mean this Ron Paul?
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pupmK1LRFGY

      Here is the thing, Ron Paul doesn‘t fit Ron Paul’s shoes….nor is he the countries’ only hope

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    • mathewsjw
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 2:24am

      Paul/Bruno 2012 says it all

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    • ranger22x
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 2:26am

      I like Ron Paul! But face it he is not going to beat Obama!
      Two things that keep me from voting Ron Paul
      1) Foreign Policy
      2) His supporters who thinks he walks on water

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    • colt1860
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 3:08am

      Ron Paul against TARP and predicts our recession AND pints out the failed policies of the Federal Reserve Bank in 2008
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDWHnDTDtqQ

      Ron Paul questions John Snow at hearing on Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac in 2003
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpBIhHi7KEA
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S3lXDOQ7ec

      Ron Paul questions Alan Greenspan at economic outlook hearing in 2003
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-JWBBHuX_c

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    • colt1860
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 3:43am

      “Brief Overview of Congressman Paul’s Record:

      He has never voted to raise taxes.
      He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
      He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
      He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
      He has never taken a government-paid junket.
      He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
      He voted against the Patriot Act.
      He voted against regulating the Internet.
      He voted against the Iraq war.
      He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
      He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

      When Rick Perry was getting Ds in Economics 101, Ron Paul was writing books on Austrian Economics.

      When Michele Bachmann was campaigning for Jimmy Carter, Ron Paul was one of four congressmen to endorse Ronald Reagan on his second run.

      When Herman Cain was working for the Federal Reserve, Ron Paul was trying to end it.”

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    • JJ Coolay
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 5:20am

      Ron Paul is NOT the only chance we have.
      In fact, I like him 4th or 5th.
      Mitt Romney, IMO, is THE BEST chance at a national recovery.
      I like much of what Newt brings to the table as well as Herman Cain. Then maybe Ron Paul or Rick Perry. But to say Ron Paul is our only chance is insane. As Newt Gingrich said: anyone of those people sitting at that table would do a better job than Obama has.

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    • CatholiConservative
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 6:03am

      Ron Paul sort of reminds me of that cult guy with the white robe & coolaid from family guy

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    • rangerp
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 6:58am

      I do not want Newt as President, but I sure love to hear him speak. I believe his thinking goes a bit deeper. If i was elected, I think I could find a job for him to do, as I would want him on my side.

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    • HammerDamage
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 7:09am

      Ron Paul is not a leader.

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    • poverty.sucks
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 7:15am

      Ron Paul is a excellent leader, for the Libertarians and Democrats, not Republicans.

      My prediction is Cain/Gingrich or Cain/Palin

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    • PoliticalJunkieToo
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 7:42am

      Anyone but Obama and Romney and Huntsman and Christie.

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    • CIAtroll
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 7:53am

      Herman Cain brazenly lied during last night’s Republican debate when he denied that he had opposed an audit of the Fed, a claim that was proven false within hours by Ron Paul’s campaign team.

      http://www.infowars.com/fed-insider-cain-caught-in-brazen-debate-lie/

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    • cemerius
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 7:54am

      @Martinez,

      Sorry but Ron Paul is like that “crazy Uncle” that comes to the family reunion and everyone tries to NOT get him into a deep conversation but leaves him alone in his corner mumbling to himself. He has some good ideas but not enough to make me bite.

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    • notatoomah
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 8:27am

      I think it speaks volumes about a guy when he is a Congressman, yet his son is a Senator. Paul has a s much chance of winning as Walter Mondale did in his time. You believers need to give it up, you’re starting to sound like Green Party people.

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    • aaronkcmo
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 8:29am

      @cia

      If you believe anything you read from ‘infowars’ you deserve Ron Paul as a candidate. Go drink some more Alex Jones WTC 7 kool-aid.

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    • Lion420
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 8:45am

      Right about everything? How about Iran? When
      Israel is reduced to a cinder, and one of their missiles appear over the east coast of the US, it’ll be too late to find out just how wrong he is.

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    • S_Malc13
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 8:51am

      Way to cherry pick the Ron Paul video with Russert Conservafraud. There’s more to that video on Youtube and he thoroughly explains his position. Nice try though.

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    • Gerrymanderer
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 9:27am

      They are all flakes. RINOs all around. Except for maybe Newt. But he’s to old and out dated. The GOP is giving the presidential election to Obama. Is that the best we can do? Really? From a stupid 9.99 pizza tax plan to no other feasible plan. Congrats’ OBUMMER YOU WILL WIN AGAIN. Let’s get our act together and nominate someone who really will turn this ship around.

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    • escape_from_socialism
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 9:51am

      Who won the 10-11-11 GOP debate?
      http://www.wepolls.com/p/3637328/Who-won-the-October-11th-GOP-New-Hampshire-%28Washington-Post-/-Dartmouth-College-/-Bloomberg-TV-debate

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    • escape_from_socialism
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 10:09am

      The time is NOW.
      We have been robbed for 98 years. Our country was founded on principle of individual freedom and responsibility. Not collective. End the FED and let banks operate like any other companies, no more fractional reserve lending,

      Ron Paul 2012

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    • TheFastestCamper
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 11:01am

      You are right, sir. And anyone who disagrees is merely trying to play politics. If we continue to elect based on popularity and ‘electability’ then we are already doomed(which we are).

      The most important problems this ponzi scheme of a country faces are economical. If we dont address our economy and financial issues we will be worthless to countries like Israel. We need to elect somebody who would have made our founders proud.

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    • TunaBlue
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 11:46am

      No one is this crowd is the only hope. We are the only hope! If we put our future in the hands of one individual instead of in our own hands and we will look much the same as we do today.

      That said, I believe Cain offers the clearest way forward on every level.

      I’m sick and tired of the mainstream Republicans pushing Romney in my face. He’s W all over again.

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  • Husband_Beater
    Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:58am

    It´s not my hubby fault!!!!

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  • Integrity1st
    Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:57am

    Herman Cain and Newt Ginrich continue to be the only ones who demonstrate true potential. They each have a plan. Those who are not favorable can come up with one-liners. Notice that Cain, when laughed at with the pizza box one-liner, just humbly defended himself. This is a sign of the character of someone who knows he can make a difference. It still is early, but Newt and Herman are still the best, no matter what.

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    • AZindependent
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 1:21am

      Of course no mention of Ron Paul here at the Blaze, whatever….
      Here is all one needs to know about Herman “former K.C. Federal Reserve Board Chairman” Cain:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sJV-baQ40A

      The guy is the shill candidate for the banksters, he is one of them for God’s sake. It’s as if the whole damn country is suffering from Stockholm syndrome. Like sheep being taken to the slaughter house. 9,9,9 then 10,10,10 then 11,11,11 …… get the picture? Tax and debt slaves, Herman wants to be your new master.

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    • FreedomDefender33
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 1:24am

      Couldn’t agree more!

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    • colt1860
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 1:41am

      Mitt Romney thinks Ben Bernanke is doing a good job and would reappoint him as Chariman. He would also like to keep the Federal Reserve, and not let congress have the Power to regulate our currency. Herman Cain would reappoint Alan Greenspan and also keep the Federal Reserve.

      Research the Coinage Act of 1792. This Act implemented exactly what the US federal Constitution authorized Congress to do, “To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures”. There was no fiat currency or national bank with a printing press inserting money based on credit and debt into the economy.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 2:01am

      Cain lied. He said that the Federal Reserve had “no hidden secrets” and that we wouldn’t find anything in an audit of it. YET, in July 2011, a partial audit of the Federal Reserve System revealed $16.1 trillion in unreported loans to foreign and US financial institutions.

      youtube.com/watch?v=q18jMzTWJ9A

      “If the people ever allow the banks to issue their currency, the banks and corporations which will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property, until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.” Jefferson

      “Paper is poverty… It is not money, but the ghost of money.” Jefferson

      “History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit and violent means possible, to maintain their control over governments, by controlling money and its issuance.” Madison

      “If congress has the right under the Constitution to issue paper money, it was given them to use themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations.” Jackson

      “You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal god, I will rout you out!” Jackson

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    • colt1860
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 2:02am

      Abraham Lincoln speaking on the third attempt to establish a central bank in America:

      “The money powers prey on the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. The banking powers are more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. They denounce as public enemies all who question their methods or throw light upon their crimes.

      I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me, and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe. As a most undesirable consequence of the war, corporations have been enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow. The money power will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in the hands of a few, and the Republic is destroyed.”

      “The government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the government and the buying power of consumers. By the adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be the master and become the servant of humanity.”

      “No duty is more imperative on the government than the duty it owes the people to furnish them with a sound and uniform currency, and of regulating the circulation of the medium of exchange so that labor will be protected from a vicious currency, and commerce will be facilitated by cheap and safe

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    • warriorspirit
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 7:43am

      I don‘t get the logic of the people who keep complaining that Cain’s 999 plan is a bad idea because Congress can raise the tax later. HELLO! ANY TAX SYSTEM CAN BE RAISED BY CONGRESS LATER!!! So based on that logic you people must not like ANY TAX PLAN; and with not taxes at all there would be no Government. So therefore you must be anarchist. (think about it). The other thing is his plan would be completely transparent. Our current tax system has so many loopholes and hidden taxes that congress can change our tax rate without people being able to tell. With Cains simple strait forward plan people would know 100% for sure if and when Congress raised the rate. If any Congress person puts forward a bill to raise the rate every American would know it, understand it and be able to vote that person out of Congress based on it. Remember “we the people” give Congress their jobs. They have purposely made the tax system so confusing that we can’t fully understand what is going on. It is the “wizard” they hide behind so they can manipulate our taxes. As for the argument that “it just adds a new tax” also makes no sense because you fail to mention all the taxes it removes. If we get ride of several taxes and add 1 new one how is that “just adding more types of taxes”. Now, is Cain perfect? Nope, he does lack a few things. However I do believe he knows how to surround himself with strong smart people; and to me that is a key to any good leader.

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    • saranda
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 10:04am

      @integrity1st – Cain has no real plan. He presents a 9-9-9 comment at every opportunity but nothing around it. Romney destroyed him with his “simple plan” comment, and even Bachmann made him look foolish when she called it a tax plan not a jobs plan. Cain did not try to defend his plan, nor did he take the opportunity to expand on his ideas. He is a one idea guy with a catchy slogan. When I hear him say 9-9-9 now I immediately think of Bachmann and her constant mention of her 28 children.

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    • escape_from_socialism
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 10:15am

      @warriorspirit, you don’t get the logic? So didn’t learn any thing from the past? Give the government a “tool” and they will used. Income tax was sold to the people on a lie, the only “rich” will pay up to 7%.
      Cain is trying to sell to us another tax. He claim congress will need 3/4 majority to raised. Obviously he have no idea how congress works.

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    • hexnut
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 11:03am

      A Gingrich/Cain ticket would sell like hotcakes! Newt continues to impress me and Herman has great vision.

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    • Nova2395
      Posted on October 23, 2011 at 8:58pm

      finally someone who gets it. Gingrich/Cain 2012!!!!! both of them have plans and Newt would destroy Obama in a debate…..Id like to see Obama meet Newts challenge on meeting the Lincoln/Douglas standard. Newt is the smartest man on the stage and speaks his mind and makes no apologies for it and that is what america needs

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  • Ferrarello
    Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:45am

    Herman Cain was attacked by all sides and came out looking good. Bad remark about Alan Greenspan but other than that….

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    • mathewsjw
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 2:29am

      Herman Cain & anyone 4 VP, if #RomneyCare gets the GOP nomination some will hold their noses, most will forget to vote in November, #RomneyCare is #nObama’s best chance at being elected

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    • citizen_brain
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 7:36am

      “i dont believe in ending the fed, i believe in fixing the fed.” ~Herman Cain / October 11, 2011

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    • PoliticalJunkieToo
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 7:45am

      The fed thing is the only thing I don’t like about Cain. That is Cain’s only blotch.

      BUT, ALL THE CANDIDATES like the The Fed because NONE but Paul and Johnson said they would end it.

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    • AZindependent
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 8:17am

      The FED’s charter is up in 2013 (one hundred years to rip off America) the time to end it is now. Herman Cain is a shill candidate for the banksters. You like bank bailouts, Europe bailouts, the IMF, more taxes, etc… vote and support Cain or Romney. The FED had devalued the dollar 97% in 98 years. The dollar isn’t even a dollar, it is a Federal Reserve Note, an IOU backed by NOTHING produced with a keyboard in Ben Bernake’s office (they don’t even print most of them anymore).

      Take the time to learn about the scam that is the private Federal Reserve System. Beck knows, but won’t tell you the whole story. When he started to, they yanked him off TV. When JFK wanted to move away from the Federal Reserve System, he was taken out. These people are more dangerous than the mafia, drug cartels and Al Qaeda combined.

      “Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who rules.” Mayer Rothschild

      “When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes… Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.”
      - Napoleon Bonaparte, 1815

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  • plugthedamnhole
    Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:43am

    Newt

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  • capitalismrocks
    Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:36am

    They can’t just repeal Obamacare — that is like saying you are going to come in and just remove the foundation from under a house – it will fall…

    Obamacare must be systematically replaced with Free Market solutions that are equal to and better then Obamacare, that will bring back market confidence and investor confidence and that will keep a void from existing…

    in 1994 when HillaryCare was defeated, that was where the GOP f-ed up majorly – they defeated it, then sat back and patted themselves on the back, but never addressed the issues with Free Market solutions, so the void remained and then we ended up with an even worst attempt to fill the void – Obamacare…

    So the GOP candidates have to not only Repeal, but Repeal AND replace and they should ALL be meeting with insurance, and medical providers and see how they can best allow them to provide Jan 21, 2013 immediate implementable replacements to Obamacare and begin to put them into place to shore up confidence in the public and for companies to move forward once again. Frank/Dodd law needs to be tossed out and Frank/Dodd need to be tossed in Jail…

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    • CottonMPG
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 1:03am

      I respectfully disagree. We were fine without Obamacare and have not built anything on it so we can remove it without any worries.

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    • Verity58
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 2:30am

      please tell me where the free market exists today, you live in an illusion.

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    • JJ Coolay
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 5:23am

      I agree Cotton.

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    • clarity2199
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 7:10am

      It’s a good thought on the matter. But in order to figure out how our medical system got to messed up, I think we need to look backwards at how it got that way in the first place. I mean, back in the 1920s, 30s, 40s, etc. I never heard this was an issue. We obviously didn’t have a health care plan set up then, and I don’t recall any kind of past complaining over the price of medicine and hospital stays. How did the price of medicine go sky rocket? What caused it to happen? Why are hospitals so expensive to go there, now? If the answer is regulation, then maybe we should look at a way to tone that down without overdoing it at a risk to ourselves. Because I don’t see any health care plan that the government would implement to be good for us, and they wouldn’t take advantage of as a new grab for our rights later down the road, if not immediate.

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  • ROMNEY2012
    Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:35am

    Ever notice that the more Romney talks, the better he sounds? That is because he is INTELLIGENT. If ever there was a time our nation needed a smart leader it it now. The challenges we face are complex and intertwined. Tonight’s debate showed clearly that one man above all other candidates is prepared to LEAD THIS COUNTRY.

    Once again Mitt Romney won the debate and showed that he is the most well versed candidate on every issue. Despite this fact, many hard headed conservatives are still looking for their own Messiah and want to give Rick Perry a 7th chance or vote for Cain because the like the simplicity of 999?.

    You have a candidate right in front of your face in Mitt Romney who can beat Obama and restore America to greatness. He is a man of great integrity and deserves to be seriously considered for your vote.

    Lets take a look at the scoreboard shall we?

    Debate Victories:
    Romney 5, Cain 1, Perry O

    Comprehensive Economic Plan which will create 11 Million Jobs:
    Romney 1, Perry 0, Cain 0

    Comprehensive Foreign Policy plan which recognizes China, Putin, and Iran as serious threats to the future of our Nation:
    Romney 1, Perry 0, Cain 0

    A clear and compelling vision for the future of America:
    Romney 1, Perry 0, Cain 0

    BELIEVE IN AMERICA!

    STAND WITH MITT!

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    • dogpatch65
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:42am

      The problem is that I think it still leaves us with a RINO leading. It seems others think so too:
      http://wp.me/p1HGwx-17w

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    • Fed up in Bama
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 1:05am

      How about we put more energy in electing more conservative conservatives in the House and Senate. (Also take that branch over)?
      Think about it……….
      No matter which one on that stage is elected, the Houses (with the American Ppl behind them)…will set the stage of what will get done to restore our country. They and WE will keep him in line. Just saying.

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    • chalkdust
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 1:17am

      Romney is just another slickster. Herman Cain all the way to the White House. Mick Perryromney is more of the same. Get on the Herman train!

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    • JoeInMaine
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 5:53am

      The first sentence of your comment made me feel the way I usually do after Mitt finishes one of his long-winded non-answers to a debate question followed by the smarmy-smirk-smile. You two deserve each other.

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    • Unruled
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 7:30am

      Obama is an excellent speaker. Are you suggesting that we should just keep on the merit of his oration?

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    • clarity2199
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 8:23am

      ‘Romneycare’ Romney? Are you kidding me? No way…I don’t stand with anyone that the establishment is siding with. I’m sorry, the establishment are ‘not’ conservative. And if they’re siding with him, there‘s a reason that obviously you’re not seeing.
      But Dogpatch has an interesting storyline that I couldn’t help but consider. It’s true, it’s hard to tell who to trust, anymore. I don’t really trust any of them, until they prove themselves. Out of them, Herman Cain I feel is our best bet. Just the fact that the media is on a frenzy trying to attack him any chance they can on anything makes me feel there‘s a good chance he’s a good guy.
      But that article brings up a good question: should we not vote at all if we don’t trust any of them? I personally believe we should vote. To not vote is also in a sense of a vote of ‘no vote’. And I‘m sure the establishment would love to have all conservatives sit back and let ’them’ pick who we want to run. We‘re never going to get a ’perfect’ candidate, and we’re certainly not going to reverse this in a 4 or 8 year time. It took the Democrats 100 years to get us to this point. There‘s no way we’re going to turn it back overnight.
      And Fed up in Bama is right, too. Even if we vote in someone soft, if we also vote in more Conservatives in the House, it’ll help keep whoever it is in line. But we need to vote for who we think is best. Standing in the sidelines isn’t going to help, just hurt us more.

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    • SimpleTruths
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 9:55am

      @CHALKDUST
      Ask the employees of Aquila where Cain served as director how they like the train ride off the cliff that Cain took them on when he ripped them off of 10′s of millions of dollars of their retirement fund money.

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    • slr4528
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 1:03pm

      I would like to see what the Romney critics could accomplish if they were given the task to govern the state of MA where the composition of the MA legislature was 87% liberal.

      They do know when there is that large of a majority that the legislature can override the governor’s veto?

      The facts are that Romney under these conditions reduced the size of MA government,reduced MA debt in 4 years from 4 billion in debt to a 2 billion surplus. Reduced unemployment from 6% to 4.7%.
      Enforced illegal immigration by giving authority to the MA police officers.

      Yes Romney developed the state solution for Romney care to address the 8% of the uninsured but it is nothing like Obamacare.
      If anything, Romney knows how a bill that is good in concept could be completely hosed by the liberal Dems. That is why Romney’s national healthcare solution is a free market solution. Read about his National Healthcare solution on his website and in his book. By the way before the Dems hosed up the bill, the Heritage foundation along with Gingrich and Demint lauded it as good conservative legislation.

      Romney is the best candidate to beat Obama. Romney has campaigned and given money to tea party candidates like Rubio and Bachman and many others in order to push a conservative national agenda. I could only imagine how successful Romney and the conservative republicans would be if they controlled the Whitehouse and Congress.

      Give Romney a chance to govern with conservatives,you will not regr

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  • Whirling Dervish
    Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:24am

    VAT is a compounding tax; farmer sells wheat, +9% tax, mill processes it +9%, Baker bakes it +%9, market buys it +9%, You get your hands on it +9%.
    If you think IRS is bad…you have no idea how worse it could get.

    Don’t be a chump people, the guy was the head of the federal reserve, he is a pitch man for the fat globalist and their banker bosses.

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    • AmericanPatriot01
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 1:17am

      I have been a business man for the past 20 years and you are exactly right!! If the government institutes a flat tax of 9% they would have to drop the income tax all together!!

      You see the middle class and the poor will feel that tax the hardest. right now they dont pay that tax except for the state and local sales tax, add 9 cents on the dollar to everything that gets sold outside of the wholesale market and you get a compounding tax that can equal more than 27% on top of current taxes. The income tax would not be needed and would keep the FED ALIVE!!! THAT IS THE MAIN PROBLEM!!! We NEED to get END THE FED!! sure it will have to be phased out, you can’t just close the doors without a transition period, but it needs to shut down. RETURN THE DOLLAR TO a fractional incremental standard based on precious metals like gold and silver.

      Im not the only one that has a bad feeling about the man from the FED running to be President!!

      Dealing with the economy from the end user tax systems is like treating the runny nose symptom of the swine flu, You may clear up the runny nose but you are still GOING TO DIE!!!! if you don’t deal with the viral infection!

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    • Raider1
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 6:23am

      Actually its not a VAT…it’s a consumption tax, there’s a difference. It’s a personalized version of the fair tax which is THE best system to use.

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    • clarity2199
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 8:44am

      Well, AmericanPatriot…those are some great ideas. I’m sure a lot of us would like to see that. But what Republican candidate is pitching these ideas? I haven’t heard any. I think Cain‘s idea is the closest we’ve heard to a flat tax, and it’s atleast an idea to help fix the economy. I haven’t heard any other candidate come out with an idea of their own…all they‘re doing is smearing Cain’s idea. I’m sick of the smears. Pointing fingers at people and telling them their ideas suck does not help solve the problem. They either need to come up with an idea of their own, or get out of the way.
      Great…Cain was part of the Federal Reserve. Well, everyone was part of the political system, and they haven’t done a very good job, either. That doesn’t mean diddly squat. I say let the man try. It‘s better than Obama’s plan to turn us to a Marxist society.

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    • elation
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 8:59am

      I’ve heard Cain say that if you operate a business (or farm, I would imagine) then you get to write off your business expenses, which would mean you would either not pay the 9% or pay a reduced rate (not sure which). It would be worth looking into the details of his plan (haven’t yet).

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    • docvet
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 3:50pm

      WHIRLING D….. Please go to FairTax.org and get the straight scoop. In effect, you are sort of describing the way the income tax works now. Bread: Farmer includes his tax in his price – buyer pays, miller (makes flour) adds his tax in his price – buyer pays, baker adds his tax to his price – buyer pays, trucker at each step adds his tax to his price – shipper pays, retailer adds his tax to his price (which includes all the taxes since the wheat was in the field) – YOU pay! Businesses don’t pay taxes of any kind – they just include it in the price of goods/services, collects it from you and sends it off to the government (and you never saw it coming or going).

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  • GodsDotr
    Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:23am

    They need to take their cue from Newt Gingrich and stop going after each other. Go after the crooks who put our country in this position, including Obama.

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  • Cosmos102
    Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:18am

    I’m still undecided because I like them all, aside from Huntsman and Ron Paul, but I’d still vote for them over Obama or Hillary, or any Democrat. I like Romney’s views on China. I like Cain’s views on Americans and their desire to prosper, I like Bachman’s knowledge..just down right “I know how it works” kind of knowledge, I love Newt’s ability to cut into the heart and pull out the offending disease, I like Rick Perry‘s patriotism and spunk and I like Rick Santorum’s values, and think he would make a good presidential adviser. Heck all of them would. I think all of them could be great choices for VPs. Cain and Romney are the strongest leaders. I’m still undecided on those two. But I think we have an absolutely GREAT bunch of candidates to choose from. I really appreciate everything they do for this country.

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    • Whirling Dervish
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:27am

      Ron Paul is the man, Romney was all for carbon tax and socialized healthcare, heck Obama’s bill was inspired after him.

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    • the hawk
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:31am

      Yeah me too, I’d of paid to watch that !

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  • Lumbar Spine
    Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:17am

    I think Rick Perry needs to shoot another coyote if he wants to jump start his flagging campaign. Or maybe he could strangle the coyote instead…yea!

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    • dogpatch65
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:20am

      Perry wasn’t horrible, but he sure didn’t inspire. none of them did.

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    • Lumbar Spine
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:29am

      Dog, the only thing Rick Perry inspires is special interests to give him millions in cash…

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  • drdawsonrocks
    Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:16am

    Herman Cain and Ron Paul. The only 2 that has never waivered from their principles. Mitt Romney has once said he was a Progressive Republican. Rick Perry was one of the names on the guest list for the Builderburgs Meetings and all of a sudden, he come out on top before he even decided to run for President. Moneymen paying off people & funding the smoke screen. These 2 have done enough public service and it’s time to return back to private life. Collect of 5 yr retirement with a salary reduced from a life-time 6 figure income paid from tax payers. Those 2 are dancing to fool the crowd, but only the informed will protect us from the ignorence of the irresponsible American Citizens. So you little sheeple just let us handle it.

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    • dogpatch65
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:30am

      Let’s be honest, if this is all we’ve got, we’re in deep trouble:
      http://wp.me/p1HGwx-17F

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    • Lumbar Spine
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:34am

      Dog…you’re in deep trouble. Ronald Reagan is dead…and he ain’t coming back. Blame the Tea Party if you nominate an unelectable candidate

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    • JJ Coolay
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 5:25am

      Dog are you nuts? There’s a handful of candidates that would be a HUGE improvement over what we have now.

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  • Master_and_Commander
    Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:12am

    I missed the debate, anyone know where I can watch a rerun?

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  • lindathepatriot
    Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:09am

    I wish the conservative candidates would stop going after each other. They are all on the same side and they should be going after Obama. They need to attack him, not attack each other. All of these attacks will come back to haunt them in the election. I can’t watch these anymore.

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    • C.Gallicchio
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:14am

      All of the questions were geared away from Obama and his policies.Only the candidates themselves could get in a slam after steering the discussion.

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    • PoliticalJunkieToo
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 7:49am

      WRONG.

      They are NOT all on the same side.

      Romney/Huntsman/Christie are PROGRESSIVES who as GOVERNORS appoint LIBERALS to be JUDGES. I know Chrisie isn’t running but he is a prime example. Romney APPOINTED ONLY LIBERALS to the bench as governors.

      Plus, I don’t trust Romney on guns because he was AGAINST THEM before he was for them and by appointing MORE LIBERAL JUDGES this time at the FEDERAL LEVEL, he will ensure NONE OF US HAVE THEM.

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  • C.Gallicchio
    Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:08am

    And yet again Romney gets the most face time . Him and Perry were on the hot seat several times during the debate. Santorium might as well have went home at the start only had 2 questions until he interjected himself. Newt got his time in by doing just that on several occasions. Bachmann kept repeating her same old lines and talking about herself , very disconcerting Thought Huntsman was the Jester up there tonight with all of the one liners(what is Leno writing for him now ), but still had a better showing this time around.Cain , well what can u say think after the Greenspan comment he might just go back to the 2nd or 3rd tier.But as usual, besides Santorium Dr.Paul got the least amount of discourse both in questions asked as well as retorts to others, no one went after him. That makes me wonder if they are afraid of his blunt truth to matters. How ever Newt and Paul were never brought into a debate with either Perry or Romney. Cause IMAO , They would clean the others clocks. Liberty,Trade,Peace and Prosperity Ron Paul 2012 .

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  • Alucard
    Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:06am

    Seriously, why is Huntsman even still in these debates? He has no chance of getting the nomination and is just taking away time from candidates that we need to truely vet.

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  • Red Max
    Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:06am

    The “key moments” could have been so much better. What a rip!

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  • Chuck Stein
    Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:04am

    Not ONE of the candidates corrected Charlie Rose’s equating an increase in tax RATES with an increase in tax REVENUE. Disappointing.

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  • ccr
    Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:01am

    Did you take some of Romney’s comments about TARP out of context or state incompletely…..so as to “ALERT” the teaparty??? hmmmm………..

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  • honor007
    Posted on October 11, 2011 at 11:59pm

    Cain was absolutely right about the TARP $$$ …….., it got lost in the implementation,
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    • jmiller_42
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:33am

      oh that is what it was, who would have guessed the government couldn’t be trusted with the money…..That’s right, Ron Paul did.

      Who could have guessed the economy was about to collapse in 2 weeks? Not Cain
      http://004eeb5.netsolhost.com/hc126.htm

      It was Paul that was recognized the coming bubble as early as 2001 and warning us of government spending since the 70′s. Youtube and you will see.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 1:59am

      Cain lied. Period. He said that the Federal Reserve had “no hidden secrets” and that we wouldn’t find anything in an audit of it. YET, in July 2011, a partial audit of the Federal Reserve System revealed $16.1 trillion in unreported loans to foreign and US financial institutions.

      youtube.com/watch?v=q18jMzTWJ9A

      “If the people ever allow the banks to issue their currency, the banks and corporations which will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property, until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.” Jefferson

      “Paper is poverty… It is not money, but the ghost of money.” Jefferson

      “History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit and violent means possible, to maintain their control over governments, by controlling money and its issuance.” Madison

      “If congress has the right under the Constitution to issue paper money, it was given them to use themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations.” Jackson

      “You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal god, I will rout you out!” Jackson

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  • Whirling Dervish
    Posted on October 11, 2011 at 11:58pm

    How is adding more VAT and all the bureaucracy comes with it and growing the central government more is going to help.

    Make no mistake the states will loose their sales tax revenue and will be looking for federal handouts if federal sales tax / VAT is enacted.

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:06am

      A Value Added Tax (VAT) is imposed at various points in the economy. A sales tax is only imposed at the ultimate point of sale.

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    • Pyronaught
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:35am

      While technically not a VAT, the effect is nearly the same. Say you own a boat building company. You will pay the 9% tax on all the materials to build your boat, so the price of the finished boat will have a cost increase of 9% on materials. Then when the customer buys it he pays an additional 9% on top of that. So the real cost to the consumer is actually more than 9% when buying things manufactured domestically, which then makes it even more difficult to compete against imports.

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  • Thatsitivehadenough
    Posted on October 11, 2011 at 11:58pm

    So far, I can’t see anyone I like more than Herman Cain, and I keep liking him more and more while he leaves all the others in the dust. Who are they again?

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    • Lumbar Spine
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:08am

      Get real…Mitt Romney has this thing sewn up. Do you seriously think big money Republicans are going to Herman Cain any money?

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    • C.Gallicchio
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:24am

      Lumbar @ We should not let the Media pick the candidate, do your own research on them, see where they stand and then make an informed decision. “Libertarianism is the root of Conservatism” Ronald Reagan . Liberty,Trade,Peace and Prosperity Ron Paul 2012

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    • Lumbar Spine
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:31am

      The media aren’t picking your candidate…big money interests are. Wake up and open your eyes…

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    • Pyronaught
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:39am

      Candidates don’t win based on how much money they can raise, especially in times like these where everyone is actually paying attention. Romney can raise all the money he wants and the Tea Party will still see him as the country club establishment RINO that he is and not vote for him. He can run all the TV ads and signs he want’s and it is not going to change reality.

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    • Lumbar Spine
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 1:24am

      To paraphrase Bill Maher, with a few hundred million dollars you could convince people to drink paint. No…it is about the money.

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  • drhunt
    Posted on October 11, 2011 at 11:58pm

    I actually thought Newt’s excoriation of the media for not putting more pressure on Frank, Dodd and Bernanke was the highlight of the night. As usual, Newt put the “commentators” in a defensive posture, (which they deserve), and forced a weal follow-up from them. The talking heads, in particular, the liberal ones, can’t stand asking him anything of substance, because he rubs their noses in their own hypocrisy, and quite succinctly verbalizes what many of us know.

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    • drhunt
      Posted on October 11, 2011 at 11:59pm

      weak

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    • Lumbar Spine
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:10am

      Newt Gingrich is saying inflammatory thing simply to try to remain relevant. Take a good look at Newt because you won’t be seeing him on the debate stage too much longer. Gingrich is toast.

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    • mathewsjw
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 2:31am

      Newt = Scozzafava Gingrich is FATALLY FLAWED and half the GOP, NONE of the Tea Party would EVER vote for Newt, EVER

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    • Mohawk1773
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 7:35am

      Newt nailed it a few times and was very classy about how he interacted with the other candidates. Can’t say the same of Paul, Bachman, Huntsman or Santorum.

      I like Ron Paul, but why does he always got to come off like a frustrated angry little man?

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    • Jefferson
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 1:30pm

      @Mohawk
      “Why does he have to come across as a frustrated angry little man?”

      If you’re not outraged, then you’re not paying attention. He has been called the intellectual Godfather of the Tea Party, since it was started during his campaign in 2007. The “Tea Party” which Ron Paul started is the culmination of frustration with the business as usual Govt. policies.

      Herman Cain on the other hand says “we all need to get a sense of humor.” Well I’m not laughing. In fact I’m pretty pissed. Even more so that people are falling for this Federal Reserve stooge, who thinks he can tinker with this secretive, destructive, PRIVATELY OWNED banking cartel that has NO OVERSIGHT.

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    • slr4528
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 1:35pm

      You know what…I agree with you 1000%. Newt was very effective. I still think it is insulting for a larger than life conservative figure like Newt, to be rated lower than Perry in the polls. Perry is a blockhead puppet and whoever gives Perry the most money pulls his strings.

      I have no sympathy for this guy. He should be performing the best in the debates because he is a true career politician and I would think by now he could articulate his thoughts and views.

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  • Stryker
    Posted on October 11, 2011 at 11:56pm

    “I want to beat China. I want to go to war with China and make America the most attractive place in the world to do business.” — Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum.

    ???Hopefully he is talking industrially

    (first)

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  • Whirling Dervish
    Posted on October 11, 2011 at 11:54pm

    9-9-9 is 6-6-6

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    • just happy
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:26am

      999 is 999 I just think it is SOOOO relevant when some one sees fit to make a big deal out of a NUMBER. its not the 666 plan because 666 wouldn’t work it was not the number that came up when Cain figured out what would work for the tax law.

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    • whereiswashington
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:34am

      The IRS is the “666” plan! I guess you have never been audited!

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    • Lumbar Spine
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 1:40am

      666? I thought that was the number of foster children Michelle Bachmann hand raised.

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    • termyt
      Posted on October 12, 2011 at 9:51am

      Of course, the anti-christ has already come and gone. It was Reagan because each of his three names had 6 letters! 666! Ronald Wilson Reagan! It’s the only explanation. We are all already in heck – how else would you categorize Obama as president and Ron Paul as the solution?

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