Here’s Dana Loesch’s Fiery Monologue on the 1st Amendment: ‘Religious Liberty Legislated Out of Existence’
- Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:58pm by
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Dana Loesch filled in for Glenn Beck on radio and GBTV (soon to be TheBlaze TV) Monday, and gave a fiery monologue on the First Amendment.
“On August 1st, while everyone focused on whether or not Michael Phelps would beat Ryan Lochte,” she began, “the birth control mandate kicked into effect.”
She continued:
“Religious liberty was legislated out of existence without public outcry. American business-owners are now responsible for the results that stem from sexual decisions made by supposedly independent women…”
“Business-owners with less than 50 employees face higher premiums, or they can pay a penalty of up to $100, per employee, per day. But more importantly, these business-owners are told that they have to subsidize the private choices of workers regardless of their own religious beliefs or practices.”
Loesch explained that the administration’s idea of compromise here is apparently “abide…or pay.”
“It’s discrimination if you force an employee to violate their religious beliefs, so what right does an employee have to force their employer to violate theirs?” Loesch asked. “Where is the protection for the job creators?”
She noted: “This persecution of your religious right happened on August 1st, and it should’ve made headlines… but it didn’t.”
From there, Loesch cuttingly explained how distorted the feminist movement has become:
“During the days of the suffrage moment, feminist founders like Susan B. Anthony…marched in the street against government involvement…These women marched for freedom from government. Freedom from Uncle Sam’s intrusion into their lives. Freedom to have the same voice as men, selecting their government…
“Today’s feminists? They march for slavery under government. It is a remarkable 180. I’m sure the original feminists would have a lot to say about a generation of women who take to the streets to petition the government to force their neighbor to buy their birth control pills because they can’t stop having sex. In return, they cede [to] the government a little bit of liberty, and self-respect.”
She concluded: “I would liken it to the world’s oldest trade, but I think that would be an insult to the ladies of the night.”
Watch the rest of the monologue, below:
But that wasn’t all Loesch tackled on GBTV. She also interviewed former FBI informant Brandon Darby on child sex trafficking in the United States, and what the DOJ isn’t doing to prevent it:
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Comments (124)
rfycom
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:36pmThis is full of stuff that is not accurate.
Report Post »LibertyHound
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:54pmWell, RFYCOM, why don’t you tell us what those “inaccuracies” are? I thought Dana did a great job!
Report Post »the_system_disconnect
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 3:12pmPlease, you just can’t wait to let the government run your life. You won’t have a say soon. All people’s civil liberties will be crushed.
rant\
And don’t get me started about my beliefs about marriage. I do not believe that the government should define marriage. I don‘t believe it’s a civil right. Now, you may argue that it is because the law says it is, but if I vote yes to another law saying that yes, let‘s let gays have this same ’civil right’, then by extension, I’m agreeing with the first law……
/rant
Report Post »swamp_donkey
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 3:29pmyou just described dana loesh , the blaze and these winguts that live to embarrass themselves commenting on here
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:00pmPlease post what’s not accurate… I dare you! You won’t though.. all you Marxist pigs have left is to discredit. Please post all that is not accurate…..
Report Post »jzs
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:28pmcessna152 says, “Please post what is inaccurate.”
1) “Business-owners with less than 50 employees face higher premiums, or they can pay a penalty of up to $100, per employee, per day.” That’s false. Business owners with less than 50 employees are exempt from the Affordable Care Act.
Report Post »2) The statement “These women [suffragettes] marched for freedom from government…” is false. They marched to get government to eliminate laws that guaranteed unequal treatment, and they marched in favor of the 19th Amendment, which guaranteed equal rights. The idea that Susan B. Anthony was not trying to make changes through the government is absurd. Who else could give women the right to vote?
stumpy68
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:29pmGet the Government out of the marriage business
Report Post »the government should issue cohabitation agreements to anyone
who lives with another person or persons whether romantically or platonically
It should then be up to the couple whether to get married by their religious leader marriage
is a religious union not a governmental one
getitgotitgood
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:42pmyeah you know what you are full of rfycom? Crap
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:45pm@JZS,
You wrote:
1) “Business-owners with less than 50 employees face higher premiums, or they can pay a penalty of up to $100, per employee, per day.” That’s false. Business owners with less than 50 employees are exempt from the Affordable Care Act.
I’d call it half false. Splitting hairs. But the under fifty crowd is exempt from some provisions of Obamacare but they do face higher premiums. Of course, we all do so the statement is sorta misleading. Sorta like saying the under 50 businesses face higher gas prices and bi-flationary pressures from an expansionary monetary policy. True, but again we all do.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:52pmJZS Wrote:
2) The statement “These women [suffragettes] marched for freedom from government…” is false. They marched to get government to eliminate laws that guaranteed unequal treatment, and they marched in favor of the 19th Amendment, which guaranteed equal rights. The idea that Susan B. Anthony was not trying to make changes through the government is absurd. Who else could give women the right to vote?
Okay, semantics here but A, they were marching in freedom from government in a sense. It was the government that was repressing their rights was it not? Yes they were marching for representation, but they were also marching AGAINST what the government was doing to them. So I think that’s not an entirely accurate take on your part.
Furthermore I don’t recall the author saying that “Susan B. Anthony was not trying to make changes through the government”. That’s a strawman you constructed to knock down. ;-)
Report Post »coachsmac
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 5:27pmDana was spot on and correct factually on arguably every point! This administration has done it’s best to gut the Constitution and fundamentally change the way this country was founded!
Report Post »jzs
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 5:50pmRothbardian_in_the_Cleve, yes, the false part of the insurance claim she made is that “Business-owners with less than 50 employees face higher premiums, or they can pay a penalty of up to $100, per employee, per day.” That statement is the false part.
And when the government passes laws or Amendments guaranteeing a group equal rights, that’s not getting government out of their lives. That’s the government actively preventing discrimination against people in that group by making certain acts illegal.
Report Post »Restored One
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:38pmDana needs her own segment on the BLAZETV. She can reach out to youth. I think she is great!
Report Post »CrazyRabbit
Posted on August 8, 2012 at 12:15pmTo JZS, RFYCOM and other liberal trollers, no need to name all of you, it’s painfully apparent who you are. You come to this site, which is conservative and believe in NOTHING EVER stated here. Your entire reason to post here is to push your agenda and go against EVERYTHING stated. Much like satan who can twist the bible to his own end you twist and turn and deceive also. But you know what? As long as people like us, who believe and stand for whats right in this country, you will be able to lie and smear as you do for as long as you like. It’s when people like yourselves gain power that this freedom you enjoy goes bye bye.
Report Post »Now for your dumb comment.
Claiming she is innaccurate is in itself innaccurate, when you can actually go an read the damn bill and search EXACTLY how it changes things in the way she EXACTLY states.
Business owners WILL face higher premiums if not instantly then over the next year and pay penalties of up to yes.. 100 bucks and more as time passes a DAY per employee. READ how the exempt works. Even if it did state under 50 would be exempt and it does NOT guarantee they are but even if it did it’s STILL illegal and FORCING those with OVER 50 to go against there faith. Even if you‘re not religious YOU shouldn’t be forced to pay for someone’s BC. EVEN if you did think its ok, I don’t. And FORCING me to do just that is wrong.
As for Susan B. statement being inaccurate. You dolt. She marched to REMOVE THE LAW blocking women from voting which is, ah
BlackCrow
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:28pmCan we clone that girl?
Report Post »pschlentz
Posted on August 8, 2012 at 2:14amGotta love Dana, she’s a true Patriot!
Report Post »DetritusScreener
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:26pmHas there been a recent influx of liberal Trolls on the Blaze?!?!
Report Post »the_system_disconnect
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:36pmYes, there have. Wrong, aren’t they?
Report Post »Verceofreason
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:39pmLiberal trolls.
Report Post »Oh I know how you folks like to talk to yerselves. That’s so enlightening.
BeckBuster
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:40pmLooks that way. People with different views…the horror! Ask God why the majority see the world differently and you will get answer…”have you ever thought you might be wrong?”
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:44pm@Beckster,
“the majority”? You mean the majority of people that oppose Obamacare? That majority?
Report Post »rfycom
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:25pm50 shades of grey, Dana.
Report Post »OniKaze
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:25pmI LOVE Dana, and I have since they started playing her on 93.1 WIBC here in Indiana, as well as having her on the “Greg Garrison Show” on Tuesday’s..
She is Smart, Witty, and EXTREMELY beautiful…
Her husband is a lucky man… And we are a lucky nation for having her…
Dana, You’re the woMAN!!!
Report Post »the_system_disconnect
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:17pmThe most horrible thing is that Tyrants show those of us who love liberty as violent people. We need to be more aggressive when we show how they are. Throwing bricks, vandalizing, raping, spouting lies around every corner. We need to show them 2 things. That liberty is what makes us peaceful and that violence is from the ones who love to oppress.
Report Post »68Patriot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:15pmFunny how all the HOT chicks are conservatives.
No wonder the liberal males are so hate filled. All their liked minded females are mountain climbers, soft ball coaches or Rachel Maddow look-alikes.
68
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:18pmYou forgot hairy,dirty,smelly, dreadlocked chicks too. They need to be part of that discussion.
Report Post »DetritusScreener
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:21pmUm, most male liberals are gay.
Report Post »antitheist
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:24pmSo, I guess Hollywood is all of a sudden conservative?
Report Post »Landon410
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:29pmone of the funnier things i’ve read recently
Report Post »Verceofreason
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:40pmSharron Angle va va va voom!
Report Post »Verceofreason
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:51pmThat adds so much to the conversation.
Report Post »50 Michele ‘Beard’ Bachmann‘s don’t equall, intellectually, 1 Hillary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi.
I have a CAT than is smarter than Sarah Palin. Great Granny, Tripp now knows TWO ‘F’ words.
RLTW
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 3:39pmAnd if finally comes out Vercofreason is clearly for human cat marriage.
Report Post »Recceman90
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 3:45pm@ Verce…
You be off your meds if you think Pelosi is smarter than a rock…..,or she must be slightly smarter than you and that would explain loads!
Liberalism fails everywhere it is tried!
Report Post »LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:02pmVERCE, you wouldn’t know a smart person if they slapped you in the face. Pelosi is smart? REALLY? Pelosi is a brain dead idiot!
Report Post »ZaphodsPlanet
Posted on August 8, 2012 at 8:52pmI think Pelosi’s brain problems come down to her excessive use of Botox. Which by now, has probably even taken the wrinkles out of her brain…..
And yes, Liberal chicks just never seem to age well at all. They try to act like the men their girly boys never can be, while decking themselves out in flannel and short haircuts. I call it frumpy. But butt a$$ ugly also works. BTW… Any time I see Rachel MadCow on the TV or web, I can’t help but think of being stuck in a hot room where the A/C is barely working and everyone smells like vomit, weed, urine and BO. I’m guessing madcow smells like urine.
And for the record, liberal female trolls posting here. What makes you ugly isn‘t so much what’s on the outside, but more what’s on the inside. You’re gross, vile, immoral and really boring. I don’t care how beautiful some libtoad of a guy tells you you are. You can dress up as much as you like, but your feet stink and I can smell them from across a room.
Report Post »IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:15pmGee, why do any of us have to buy medicine (includes pills) just let someone else buy it for us. I guess the president is so desperate for a win that he has to interfere in our religious freedom. God will judge. Vote in November
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:18pmFor whom Christian?
Report Post »Verceofreason
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:55pmIf it’s part of the insurance coverage you are paying for – yes.
Report Post »These insurers cover viagra, so what’s your point?
Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 3:16pm@VOR,
You are twisting words…again.
If I want to enter into an agreement with an insurance company and sign a contract that provides that service…then fine. But that is not what is happening or what you are defending. Government is now putting a gun to the head of one person and forcing them to buy another person’s BC pills. How you draw your posting from this either means you are devoid of reason or seeking to mislead.
Report Post »antitheist
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:11pmThis weaker vessel does not have the authority to speak over me, if she knows what is best for her, she will shut her mouth.
I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. – 1 Timothy 2 12
Seems this harlot should take her own advice: 1 Peter 3:1-7: 3 Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, 2 when they see the purity and reverence of your lives. 3 Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as elaborate hairstyles and the wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothes. 4 Rather, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight. 5 For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to adorn themselves. They submitted themselves to their own husbands, 6 like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her lord. You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear.
7 Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers.
Report Post »the_system_disconnect
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:19pmMay the Holy Spirit show you what this scripture truly says.
Report Post »antitheist
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:22pmI’m sorry, I don’t believe in ghosts, could you perhaps share your opinion instead of your veiled biblical elitism?
Report Post »the_system_disconnect
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:25pm“If she knows what is best for her, she will shut her mouth”
Spoken by AntiTheist (please infer whatever context in which this sounds most damaging!)
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:26pmDo you understand the context of the letter to Timothy or do you simply select texts that serve your purpose? Don’t answer that.
Anyway, the church in Ephesus was very “new” to the gentiles of that day. Furthermore, in Ephesus (as in most of the biblical world) women were uneducated and unable to read. Now, the whole Christianity thing can get pretty complicated quickly. Furthermore, when you have people who want to weave words to forward their agenda’s, the gospel can become very powerful in controlling people (ie, Book of Eli). That is neither here nor there. Point is that the fear that the apostles had was of false teachers. Women in Ephesus had been problematic in misteaching or misinterpreting the gospel and weren’t really equipped for theological study.
The bible is quite clear about the value of all our souls and our value to God and how we are to treat one another. If you chose to reject that and use limited understanding of the bible and gospels to misconstrue events to your own purpose then so be it. However, what you think you are saying is not what Paul was saying to Timothy and Titus.
Report Post »OniKaze
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:29pmBaka…..
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:30pmIt’s easy to spout off what you read, but do you understand it? What about the rest of those chapters that you so rapidly quote from. How typically for the intellectually bankrupt to use the same tactic over and over again and expect people to believe what they have to say.
Look on the bright side, when a religious group seizes control, all those powers the Liberals were so willing to give themselves will be used to hang them. Just wait, it’ll be fun.
Report Post »antitheist
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:31pmYou are welcome to it. My words do not affect a huge chunk of the global population. I, unlike the biblical authors, speak plainly and do not employ deception when conveying messages.
Report Post »the_system_disconnect
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:36pmYour posts are condescending and elitist. Implying that those who believe in God have less intelligence. You’re not sharing your opinion, you’re just taking some verses out of context and being a dick.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:47pmUm, “speaking plainly”? Sure. “deception”? Not so much. Taking things out of context is the pinnacle of deception.
Report Post »LibertyHound
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:59pmAntitheist-Do you realize how inane you sound quoting the Bible. Not every word in the Bible was meant to be taken so literally. I am as conservative as anyone you’ll ever meet but confess that I have lost my enthusiasm for organized religion, in part, b/c I got tired of pulling into the church parking lot & having to look at so many Obama/Biden bumper stickers. You can’t be a Christian & vote for Obama, based on his infanticide position on birth control. Sorry, but the hypocrisy finally got the best of me & I stopped going.
Report Post »gac1218
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:39pmIn reality you can’t be an enlightened christian and vote for Obama. Grace covers even that sin. But, what most christians don’t realize is that an enlightened christian could also not vote for Romney with his Mormon beliefs. “My people perish for lack of knowledge”. Do the research for yourself. I’m not here to convince you, just to point you in the direction to make the right decisions for christians who claim to truly serve God, and not some other aggenda. The lesser of 2 evils still gets evil.
Report Post »BeckBuster
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:08pmThe drama queens and their imaginary religous persecution. Coverage for reproductive issues. The horror! The Nazis are coming. One problem. There are exemptions from the law for religous institutions that meet certain criteria, such as o gee…those that do not recieve assistance from federal tax dollars. Surely you religous anti-tax screamers cannot justify recieving federal money and then expect exemptions from federal mandates. Cant have it both ways, but ya all sure try dont ya. Then there is that persecution of property tax exemptions for religous facilities called churches. Tax free on income generated by church donations, a rare exemption for any american making religion based activity the least infringed in all the land. And also the biggest blabbering drama queens in history.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:20pmBy the way you protest too much, one wonders how much you donate to help the less fortunate, if any.
Report Post »By the way, I am waiting for you to pay for my birth control. Send me my check now!
the_system_disconnect
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:21pmYou aren’t looking at the facts or sticking to the topic. We all hate violence and you are just another liberal troll.
Report Post »dblaess
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:23pmFederal mandates can not violate the constitution. How about all companies that recieve federal funds must provide voter I.D. for employees or provide guns/ammo for all employees that want them and are legal to have them. How about all companies must give gay or abortion counseling if employees are either gay or wanting to get an abortion.
Report Post »Verceofreason
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:43pmI say we should ALL live by the fantasies of bewildered Bronze Age men (the Bible)
Report Post »in the 21st century. It makes so much sense. I discovered a new term on the website -
‘Evolution Zealot’. I have to plead GUILTY. And GRAVITY zealot too.
Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:53pmIf you read the wording for the “exemptions” the government gets to decide what a church is and what a faith based organization is and thusly who is exempt. Additionally, it already is not being done equitably. Imagine that huh? Sorta blurs the whole separation of church and state eh?
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:55pm@VOR
Stating that you give equal analytical weight to the theory of evolution and the law of gravity sorta speaks volumes I think.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 3:31pmAw, poor VOR. Do all these words hurt your head? Do you wish that we’d all use a bumper sticker character limit like you do? Sorry dude.
VOR = Brick Tamland
Report Post »SREGN
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:47pmAll liberty must be legislated out of existence to pave the way for tyranny. It is the tyrant‘s life’s work.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:16pmWell, she’s full of it. For one her statement that “These women [suffragettes] marched for freedom from government” is utterly false. Does she think they marched so that the government would stay out of the way and men outside government would somehow give themthe right to vote? No, they marched to get government to eliminate laws that guaranteed unequal treatment, and they marched in favor of the 19th Amendment. Both are things that, you know, government does.
In what way were they trying to get government out of their lives? That’s pure crap.
So is her statement that, ““Business-owners with less than 50 employees face higher premiums, or they can pay a penalty of up to $100, per employee, per day.” Sorry Dana, businesses with under 50 employees are exempt from Affordable Care Act. So that’s a lie.
Report Post »Landon410
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:39pmJZS, yes they did march to have government change laws BY GETTING OUT OF THE WAY
the laws put government in the way, the laws kept women from voting, so by marching to get government out of the way they were trying to get the laws changed to get government out of the way
damn youre dumb
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:43pmJZS,
Businesses under 50 are “exempt” as you say. However, there is a bit of a loophole in that the 25-49 gap. Under 25 get tax credits. 25-49 do not.
It is ironic that your defense of the Obamacare mandate in attacking the journalist…while correct…proves a different argument, actually a couple. If exposing a lie is the goal, then you got her. Congrats. I wonder if you were equally satisfied when Obama told us for months that the mandate was not a tax (or the plan in general) and the SCOTUS pointed out his lie(s). Methinks not. Also, the under 50 provision has had some awesome side-effects don’t you think? Let’s see, have you looked at the Part Time participation rate in the BLS data as a percent of total workforce? It used to run about 2% historically. It’s 5% now…and growing. In fact, the “jobs obama has created” have been enormously Part Time. That’s prosperity eh? Well, of course there is the new headwind to full time hiring too. So if you are at 45 employees are you going to hire or outsource work? Labor data answered that question for you…you don’t need to answer that.
But congrats, you won the battle on accuracy but lost the war on integrity.
Report Post »Verceofreason
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:53pmConservative talk is ALL ‘word salad’.
Report Post »The parts are always LESS than the whole.
THEY know their listeners are too dumb to get that.
Verceofreason
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 3:03pmWomen’s reproductive health is hardly tyranny.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:11pmRothbardian_in_the_Cleve says, “It is ironic that your defense of the Obamacare mandate in attacking the journalist…”
You then go on to attack my “defense of Obamacare.” Roth, there’s not a word in my post about “defending Obamacare.” So you set that straw man up in order to knock it down. And then insult me. Nice job. But next time I “defend Obamacare” I’ll actually defend Obamacare, not simply comment that a right wing journalist is lying.
Always feel free to passionately argue against things I haven’t said.
Report Post »watersRpeople
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:29pmComputers are a wonderful invention; the internet fascinates with it’s wealth of information access; however computers, and the internet are turning into a great tool of evil. A tool of evil in the hands of evil people who will say when people have financial issues “Well I don’t know, that’s the way the computer figures it.” In a way that‘s why twisted people crave artificial intelligence so that they can destroy people’s lives and say “Well I don’t know, the artificial intelligence does it that way.” Yet somehow it works for the benefit of tyrants, and sloths. People should be asking themselves how much longer the Lord is going to let this go on?
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:56pmAnd I thought my thinking was muddled.
Report Post »watersRpeople
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:37pmIs it ‘Muddled?’ How many times have you been to the DMV; to the bank with them saying “It‘s the computer’s way of doing it” ; to grocery stores (not mentioning names) whose computers were programmed to over-charge a penny every so many customers? How many times will Artificially Intelligent driven drones take out cars, homes, entire towns, and they will say “Well, that’s just the way the computer does it. Oh we’ll work on it.” Oh yeah, I just bet a wicked sloth will work on it, when it’s laziness that brought about the technology in the first place.
Report Post »drphil69
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:28pm“Where is the protection for the job creators?”
There is none. This is why we are NOT CREATING JOBS. Why exactly should I create wealth and jobs? So Obama can call me greedy and take it away from through taxation or regulation?
YOU, AMERICA, VOTED FOR THIS. LIVE (OR DIE) WITH IT. GET IN LINE FOR GOVT CHEESE, THEN GET IN ANOTHER LINE FOR GOVT BREAD, THEN GET JACKED FOR YOUR BREAD AND CHEESE ON THE LONG WALK HOME.
And don’t cry to me about your lost freedoms – you who cheer tax increases (because the increase is not on YOU), you who cheer the EPA as they destroy farms and homes, you who cheer “free abortion pills for all,” you who cheer the abolition of the incandescent light bulb, replaced by bulbs filled with poisonous mercury, you who cheer obamacare, which forces me to purchase insurance beyond what I want or need. WHEN YOUR FREEDOMS ARE TAKEN AWAY, I WILL NOT STAND FOR YOU, I WILL LAUGH AT YOU, FOR YOU DESERVE WHAT YOU GET, AND I WILL ENJOY WATCHING THE CITIES BURN, AS THE CITIES ARE FULL OF YOUR KIND. YOU MADE YOUR BED AND YOU WILL SLEEP IN IT.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:40pmYou should at least complete the diatribe brother.
You cheered for the Patriot Act. You cheered for the drones. You cheered for the wars. You cheered for the war on drugs. You cheered for bigger government. You cheered for national eduction laws. You cheered for Social Security (learned dependency). You cheered for big brother.
Right and left (whatever that means anymore)…all have blood on their hands and nobody has the highground.
But you are absolutely right. It’s time to live with our choices. We created FDR. We created LBJ. We created the GOP and DNC. We created kleptocracy and plutocracy. The lefts answer was Barack Obama. They’re miffed. The rights answer is Mitt Romney. You have to be kidding. BOTH SIDES HAVE THE SAME ANSWER.
To me there is only one peaceful way to fix this. Like minded, liberty loving, awake and remorseful American need to find each other. They then need to find a place to start over and get it right this time (texas?). Peaceful, honorable, and civil secession is the only chance we have in my opinion.
Report Post »The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:43pmDr Phil used to be uncle Phil from the fresh prince of bel air before the unfortunate bleaching accident
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:07pmRoth,
Report Post »I agree with you 100%. But my brother, sorry to say, you will not be able to find like minded people to get together and “start over”. They (big govt goons ) will not leave you alone. We are going to have to fight to save this country. Running and hiding in Texas is not going to cut it. They will find you. They must be met head on with like minded Patriots, not by running and hiding.
fiveft15
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:22pmBest_Patriot, you have stood in line for extra cups of obummers koolaid haven’t you? Too bad you‘ve been drinking septic system water for so long because that’s the liberal drink of choice.
Report Post »MEETJOHNDOE
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:22pmI hope GBTV adds a Dana Loesch show to their coming line-up. She was GREAT last night!
Report Post »marthasusan40
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:21pmDana was and is incredible….she nails it …she is smart and she is not owned by anyone.
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:08pmAnd, she is quite hot.
Report Post »cykonas
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 5:35pm@ROTHBARDIAN: INRE: Look around buddy, your countrymen don’t crave freedom. Not yet anyway. When they do, it will be too late.
Your posts are always enlightening and usually on target. But, I hope that you are wrong in the sentiment of yours that I posted above.
I think Americans are finally waking up to the tyranny of our two party system. The question that remains to be answered is “are they ready to do something about it”? Let’s hope they are, and very soon, because the clock is ticking and we’re not going to get a mulligan. Peace.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:14pmWe were so mad when Holder called the US a “nation of cowards”. We were mad because deep down we knew that he was right. He just had the audacity to hang it in our faces like a playground bully. There is NO LIMIT to what the government can/will do to us because we are sheep. We won’t stand for anything. Sure, I could say that I will not submit. Eventually it would escalate and acronym soup would come to my house to take all that I have. They’d create a backstory on me and feed it to the media. You all would believe it. Perhaps I’d just to fight it in court. If I had enough money to fight it I wouldn’t win because the judges have been appointed to keep the beast alive. You think they’ll allow one man to take down a law like this…if so where would that end for them. So, I’d lose my fortune and the verdict in court. Maybe, I’d just physically resist. Hole up in my house and say no. Tear gas and cops would come charging in and shoot me and my family. And YOU would cheer them and probably lament what a dangerous job they have.
Glenn says we are winning. Pffft. As if. Nope, we’ve already lost. The game is over. Read the paragraph above and tell me I’m wrong. This is just one example. Substitute this law with EPA farming regulations, Obamacare Mandates, etc. It always ends the same. Government wins and morons cheer. We all shed a tear for Big Brother in the end eh?
Report Post »drphil69
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:22pmCharleton Heston said, “FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS…”
I would consider it a win if jack-booted govt thugs broke through my front door and I die with a gun in my hand.
Apparently, you disagree…
I WILL NOT COMPLY.
I AM JOHN GALT.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:33pm@DrPhil,
I think you misread my post. Sure, you’d see it as a win. Nobody else would. The story would be told by the victor (government) and the sheep (people) would believe it. Your death would be for your own personal edification and nothing more. History will remember you as a terrorist and “conservatives” will sympathize with the cops for all the risk they took in kicking in your door.
I’m not telling you not to resist. Far from it. I’m telling you that when you do, this is what will happen. Each of us is alone. We are all Winston Smith.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:00pm@DrPhil,
One more interesting note. What did John Galt do? Did he resist? Sort of I suppose, right? He resisted by not giving society what they didn’t deserve…his gift of intellect. He resisted by removing himself from the system all together. He was Atlas and he had simply had enough and put it down.
Now, literature is gives us some outstanding case studies in fighting totalitarianism don’t you think? There was Galt, who didn’t go out in a hail of bullets…nor did he really “win” per se.
There was Winston Smith of 1984. He probably more closely embodied the idea of defiance to the state of most of the characters we might look at. Did he win? Hardly, quite the contrary. He worse than lost.
John of Brave New World? He didn’t win either. He went mad and ended up swinging from a rope.
In We, D-503 ends up lobotomized. This fate inspired the fates of other literary revolutionaries it seems.
Ultimately, it seems the V is for Vendetta storyline is quite the minority. Probably because he was a superhuman genetic experiment. As for the “normal” heroes in the fictional sense. They all lose or leave. The revolutionary ideas only come to fruition when the collective embrace them. Look around buddy, your countrymen don’t crave freedom. Not yet anyway. When they do, it will be too late.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:01pmWe have very little time left. When the government starts taking the guns and rounding up people it is going to be ugly. Through out history people who have rebelled against the government have had more numbers and similar weapons. Not so anymore. Our military has weapons we cannot fight against. The only chance for freedom we have is the Oath Keepers save us from DHS, TSA, and the other big government agencies who are now armed to the teeth. If the army sides with the people we will save this country. If they side with the government we will be crushed into slavery.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:16pm@Mutiny,
I’ll bet you dollars to donuts that the architects of the evolution of the state have no intention of rounding up our guns. They know that would end as you say. I’ll bet you that they can come up with a way to get people to WANT to turn over their guns. Tax forgiveness? Dismissal of some sort of thoughtcrime flavor of the day? Access to federal funding such as Social Security? Or the inverse of such thing…can’t get SS if you are on record as owning a gun (of course they have all that now) until you turn it in.
Sure…you can still have a gun. BUT, if you chose to keep a gun you can’t have [government dole]. Sure you can have a gun…I don’t know why gun owners seem to get audited so darn much. Sure you can have a gun, but bullets cost 100 bucks each. Sure you can have a gun, but gun ranges are a public danger.
I could go on, but you get my point. They’ll never “take your guns”…they’ll get 80% of people to give them to them. The rest, will be hunted down like dogs after getting the thoughtcrime label of terrorist affixed to them somehow.
Report Post »watersRpeople
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:10pmThere’s people who are miserable inside not finding internal happiness, therefore they seek to find it outside themselves through both thinking they are doing good, and even others who are the Jerry Springer types who enjoy seeing people more miserable than themselves so themselves feel better. That’s just the fact of the matter.
Report Post »Best_Patriot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:09pmFunny how conservatives trot out the feminist movement when it suits them. (And miss the mark, as usual). Of course, it’s usually about the glory days. Like all the latest Tea Brain ramblings. The olden days. And the old costumes. Whatever.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:19pmFunny how you show up from time to time with so many words but so little to say.
If you’re going to take issue with someone/something there are two parts.
1. “I take issue with the conservatives over the feminist stance…” – You got that part
2. “..because they [blank]” – for some reason you seem to always miss this part.
Try crafting an intelligent and thought out argument just once and maybe people might take you seriously Troll.
Report Post »TEIN
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:49pm@Best_Patriot…It is the Pres. and Libby/Progressives who want to live like its 1875!!! With newfangled windmills!!! and trains !! and have everbody live in da cities!! and have everbody with 300 sq foot living spaces!!! and everybody equally poor with the elites looking like the dude from Monopoly game….
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:02pm@Tein,
To add some levity to the convo, I heard a Steven Wright joke this AM. “I have a big problem that only one company makes the monopoly game.”
Report Post »LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:05pmBEST, is that the best you can come up with? Really? You liberals are running on empty
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:07pmWe gave up our civil liberties years ago,this is just one more in a long list,the DHS‘s existence is an affront to the constitution yet we allowed it to be created and now they’ve spawned TSA another affront to the constitution.By the time our one party system is finished with our republic you won’t recognize it,we’ll be a third world **** hole of a country destined for bad times but hey we‘ll all be ’safe’ and free to worship the government.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:29pmThere are little bits of silver lining though.
The academics and “OWS” folks will eventually have served their purpose. Once the state has won and these idiots realize that their academic and economic freedom arguments were just a ruse and that their support of war on corporate America through usage of government was misguided. (that one always makes me laugh. They decry the fascists but want government to fix it. Ha!, morons.) Anyway, got off topic there, the state will no longer need or want this line of thinking as part of the daily politik. And as history has shown us, they will all be lined up and shot. Now, that‘s a shame that they’ll all be shot. Murder sucks. But, the look of dismay on their faces when they realize what’s happening? That will be priceless. Of course I will have been executed for thoughtcrimes long before so I prolly won’t get to see it.
Report Post »Restored One
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:07pmI watched this last night and it is superb. She totally nails it. These are great talking points when trying to make your point with your undecided friends and family.
Report Post »Best_Patriot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:15pmYeah, so study up your talking points Beck bots, so you can regurgitate them like you mean it.
Then go line up for your next set of marching orders, “patriot.”
Report Post »Verceofreason
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:57pmShe’s totally clueless.
Report Post »If you do not want to cover ALL healthcare issues – don’t offer healthcare coverage.
Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 3:48pm@VOR,
So in your world every contract now has 3 parties? Two consenting adults and the government to make sure that each agreed to what the government wants?
Sounds wonderful. Totalitarianism must be great.
Report Post »LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:09pmBEST PAT, I see you still have nothing of value to add to the conversation. Its gotta suck to be you! Liberals got nothing! Liberalism is failing apart all around you and you are to arrogant to see it!
Report Post »Best_Patriot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:06pmIt seems like all the headlines these days are about conservatives crying about this, whining about that, or worry that something else is not going their way.
Crybabies like we have never seen.
Report Post »The-Real-Enrico
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:23pmI know right. Don’t you just hate liberties and freedoms! That damn Constitution, right? We should move to Russia, I heard they have a good health care system.
Report Post »Best_Patriot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:28pmOh wait, I thought we were supposed to not like complaining and whining! I thought only libs did that.
Thanks for clearing this one up for me!
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:15pmAt least conservatives pay their own way and don’t seek to suck the wealth from the labor of others. At least we feed, cloth and house ourselves with money that we earned. As soon as the commies consolidate control all of you will be lined up and shot. Just like Roth said above. The look on their faces WILL be priceless. It has been done throughout history. So, laugh all you want smart guy.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:18pmThe-Real-Enrico I like the sarcasm and I use it often as well,it’s amusing to bash liberal freaks with it.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:34pmIt seems like all the headlines these days are about Democrats lying their butts off and refuseing to “put up, o shut up” and spending America into oblivion. Guess it depends on where one gets their news………………..
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:06pmIt‘s good to see Dana’s show biz career finally taking off.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:17pmFor now. She‘ll strike a nerve eventually and she’ll be silenced. Perhaps annual IRS audits? Maybe they’ll find or manufacture skeletons from her past. Someone will be paid to make accusations. Who knows. Point is that her little rant on a website is fine, but if she ever really threatened the machine she’d be stripped of credibility.
Report Post »watersRpeople
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:06pmMisery loves company.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:05pmLove Dana!!
Report Post »Smart and witty.
Mil-Dot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:19pmAnd did I mention she was hot? Oh I did? Sorry……
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