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Here‘s the ’Focus on the Family’ John 3:16 Ad That Aired During the Broncos-Pats Game

Focus On The Family Ad from Tebow Broncos Pats Game

Lynne Sladkey / AP

Whether it was his unorthodox play, outspoken religious views or likable underdog personality, Tim Tebow attracted unprecedented attention to his every move this season, becoming a sports and pop culture phenomenon. Unfortunately for Tebow fans, the ride came to an end Saturday night with a crushing loss to the New England Patriots.

Those watching the game from home may have noticed an advertisement during the second quarter of the broadcast from Focus On The Family, that did not exactly fall in line with the usual beer and Taco Bell commercials aired inbetween game breaks.

The ad featured children reciting John 3:16, which happens to be Tim Tebow’s favorite bible verse, followed by directions on how to donate $5 via text to the Evangelical Christian non-profit organization.

Focus On The Family and Tebow found themselves in the midst of political controversy in 2010, when many liberal groups protested CBS’s decision to air an advertisement from the socially conservative organization featuring the quarterback and his mother during the Super Bowl. 

Tebow was not mentioned or seen in Saturday’s ad, but Focus On The Family Spokesman Gary Schneeberger told the Denver Post that Tebow’s cultural phenomenon inspired it.

The Post reports that last year Fox Sports rejected a John 3:16-themed spot for the Super Bowl, stating it “does not accept from religious organizations for the purpose of advancing particular beliefs or practices.”

The Colorado Springs based nonprofit expects that they may hear criticism from Saturday’s ad, but say it’s worth it.

“We will hear about shoving religion down people’s throats,” Schneeberger told the Post. “But if it‘s OK to shove Doritos down people’s throats, and cars and everything else, we have the right to advertise, too.”

While Tim Tebow has been ejected from the NFL playoffs, the debate he ignites at the cross-section of sports, religion and politics, goes on.

If you didn’t know already, John 3:16 reads:

 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”

(H/T: Gateway Pundit)

 

 

Comments (236)

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  • The Third Archon
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:39pm

    So…if John 3:16 has absolutely nothing to do with homosexuality, wouldn’t it be more honest to the mission of Focus on the Family (preventing homosexuals from getting married) quoted something a little more like Leviticus 18:22-29
    ” 22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

    23 “‘Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.

    24 “‘Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. 25 Even the land was defiled; so I punished it for its sin, and the land vomited out its inhabitants. 26 But you must keep my decrees and my laws. The native-born and the foreigners residing among you must not do any of these detestable things, 27 for all these things were done by the people who lived in the land before you, and the land became defiled. 28 And if you defile the land, it will vomit you out as it vomited out the nations that were before you.

    29 “‘Everyone who does any of these detestable things—such persons must be cut off from their people. 30 Keep my requirements and do not follow any of the detestable customs that were practiced before you came and do not defile yourselves with them. I am the LORD your God.’”

    More appropriate for them I think

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    • ZengaPA65
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:46pm

      What verses did the witches who prayed against Tebow advertise?

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    • The Third Archon
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:58pm

      I don’t think they are very knowledgeable about the contents of the Bible generally–and I think they would have chosen a different text to advertise regardless (one that didn’t advise, or lead to, burning them, stoning them, dropping them down wells, pressing them to death with millstones, and so forth).

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    • eric6161
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 12:23am

      Archon… this ‘Focus on the Family’ ad has nothing to do with sin but had everything to do with John 3:16 and how much God loves His creation… the world and the people in it. Of course He hates sin but that’s not what this ad was about. There is a time and place for pessimism but this isn’t one of those times. This is a time of praise. The Bible is pretty clear what happens to thieves, yet Christ said, “…today you’ll be with me in paradise.” Wow, Christ can forgive whores, thieves, and homosexuals…even murderers should they fall on their knees before him and repent and ask for forgiveness.
      I doubt that Hitler ever did but if he had asked Christ for forgiveness he too would be in paradise. Christ sits on the throne… you nor I make those decisions… Christ alone.

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    • db321
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 12:38am

      I saw the Ad while watching the game and was shocked! Very happy but Shocked! Great ad. As far as Tebow – he did not ask for any of the hype – the Denver team better look hard at themselves. If I was the head Coach, I would have told the players forget about taking a shower after the game – You didn’t hit anybody today – don’t bother with the shower.

      My guess Tim is going to keep doing what he does, helping and caring for others and go out on Sunday and try to HELP his team win. Win or lose – you can bet he is going to give thanks to his lord and savor each and every time.

      As far the ones that have negative comments about the ad and Tebow – just remember this – The Bible tells us that ALL will have a chance to except or reject the Salvation message. When I first heard the message of forgiveness I did not hesitate for one moment – I excepted Jesus into my life and to this day it is still the best decision I have ever made and the best offer I have ever received bar none.

      To think my name is written in the Lambs Book of Life and it was put there without ritual, lighting of a candle, or having some Priest wave smoke over me. Thank you Lord – I have sinned and come short of the glory of God, forgive me of my sin Lord Jesus – I except you Lord as my personal Lord and Savoir. Once you pray that prayer – a million witches and ESPN could never erase the decision I made nor ever make me change my mind. Great Ad – Play it more! I feel an old time Revival coming to

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    • Ded-Bred
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 1:06am

      Those are Mosaic laws, whicn God gave us to learn we cannot be obedient to all the Mosaic laws. So He prepared a much easier way to be freed from sin: Jesus.
      But since you’re on the subject, are you mocking God for despising homosexuality? Because He is, and here’s why: When you deny what He designs, or worst yet, pervert them you are pitiful,

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    • Cesium
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 1:31am

      this jew doesn’t get it. Jesus is god or the son of god or both? If both why even be a son? Son of yourself? makes no sense but that’s christianity I guess.

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    • unbound1
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 2:54am

      Cesium, Jesus is the Word of God made flesh.(John 1:14) He is the son of God because the flesh was born of God, yet He,the Word who indwelt that human body, is God. In creation, God SPOKE things into being – that was by His Word though He is the one doing it. God’s Word is so powerful, he just speaks things and they are! God formed the flesh, the human body, and placed in it, His Word or Himself into Mary. So, the human part of Jesus Christ was created directly through the Holy Spirit, thus He is God’s son. Fully God, yet fully man.

      John1:1-5,10-18-”In the beginning was the Word (logos), and Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made, without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it…He was in the world, and thought the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God…The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only who came from the Father, full of grace and truth…”

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    • carbonyes
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 3:02am

      CESIUM, if you want to escape Hell and damnation, or damnation and Hell, take your pick, and read DB321′s post about 3 times. While you are at it, ask God to reveal you His truth. He loves you a bunch too and will show you the Way if you let him.

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    • The Third Archon
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 3:10am

      @ERIC6161

      I was more commenting on how I thought it was an odd choice of verse, given that their mission and work tend to focus almost exclusively on what they would call “defending the traditional definition of marriage”–allowing only heterosexuals the right to marriage and marriage licenses.

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    • stage9
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 3:29am

      The Old Testament laws are categorized in three groups: the civil, the priestly, and the moral. The civil laws must be understood in the context of a theocracy. Though the Jewish nation in the Old Testament was often headed by a king, it was a theocratic system with the Scriptures as a guide to the nation. Those laws that fall under this category are not applicable today because we are not under a theocracy.

      The priestly laws dealing with the Levitical and Aaronic priesthoods were representative of the future and true High Priest Jesus, who offered Himself as a sacrifice on the cross. Since Jesus fulfilled the priestly laws, they are no longer necessary to be followed and are not now applicable.

      The moral laws, on the other hand, are not abolished, because the moral laws are based upon the character of God. Since God’s holy character does not change, the moral laws do not change either. Therefore, the moral laws are still in effect.

      In the New Testament we do not see a reestablishment of the civil or priestly laws. But we do see a reestablishment of the moral law. This is why we see New Testament condemnation of homosexuality as a sin but not with the associated death penalty.

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    • stage9
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 3:37am

      Homosexuals already have the “right to marry” in the traditional sense. Their rights aren’t being violated. What they’re wanting to do is REINVENT marriage and ultimately dissolve it altogether.

      Activist Paula Ettelbrick, once policy director for the National Center for L e s b i a n Rights, formerly legal director of the Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund, is tactically “for” same-s e x “marriage,” but shares these caveats:

      “Being q u e e r is more than setting up house, sleeping with a person of the same gender, and seeking state approval for doing so….Being q u e e r means pushing the parameters of s e x, s e x u a l i t y, and family, and in the process, transforming the very fabric of society….

      As a l e s b i a n, I am fundamentally different from non-l e s b i a n women….In arguing for the right to legal marriage, l e s b i a n s and g a y men would be forced to claim that we are just like h e t e r o s e x u a l couples, have the same goals and purposes, and vow to structure our lives similarly….We must keep our eyes on the goals of providing true alternatives to marriage and of radically reordering society’s view of reality.”

      Writing in Out magazine, Michelangelo Signorile (quoted supra) has described a strategy in which h o m o s e x u a l s “fight for same-s e x marriage and its benefits and then, once granted, redefine the institution of marriage completely…to debunk a myth and radically alter an archaic institution…

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    • The Third Archon
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 5:27am

      I simply see no reason the marriage laws ought to discriminate. In the status quo, it is indeed possible for homosexual couples to piece together the majority of the benefits legal couples enjoy through various legal measures, all of which separately cost money, and of course I do not believe they are eligible to receive “married” tax status, and file jointly. My point, is not that it is impossible for them to enjoy de facto equal rights, my point is that they should not have to endure de jure discrimination in the law, with no warrant, between the application of marriage rights. There is no reason whatsoever homosexual couples ought not be able to receive all the benefits of married couples with ONE legal contract in all 50 states. True, religious officials ought not be compelled to perform ceremonies and issue contracts to which they object, but someone, be it a secular government official, will be found to do so in their place. Homosexual couples are perfectly fit parents to adopt children, contribute to society, and raise a generation of moral and intelligent individuals as much as heterosexual parents are. As citizens of the United States, as much as their heterosexual counterparts, I can find no compelling reason to admit a categorical denial of the same privilege we extend to heterosexuals when they are equally competent to pursue its purpose.

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    • Be_Loving
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 6:25am

      How small, petty and sad you are for finding a way to criticize a bunch of kids reciting John 3:16.

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    • 70S_KIDS_FIGHTING_SOCIALISM
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 7:13am

      Yes we understand the homosexual agenda that tries to take over Churches changing the word of God at any and every chance they get. They are persecuting Christians and the Church of God in doing so. Christ told Saul not why are you persecuting the Christians but that in persecuting Christians he was doing it to Christ himself.

      Acts26:14 And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the ******.

      OR
      When you do it unto the least of my breatheren (Christians, true believers, possessors of the holy spirit) you do it unto me.

      Matthew 25:40-45

      King James Version (KJV)

      40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

      41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

      42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

      43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

      44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

      45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as

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    • nzkiwi
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 7:21am

      @The Third Archon

      For God’s sake!

      You and everybody else: Get a life!

      What can possibly be wrong with this? Why do you launch into the minutae of the gospels? And to what end?

      Nobody is going to convince anybody else. One’s faith is a PERSONAL conviction. Why hammer each other? Are we nutty muslims?

      I am an atheist of some decades standing and I find myself ever increasingly defending Christians. I do not believe in God, but I absolutely do believe in the right of any person to believe in God. Why is there suddenly such a ridiculous attack on Christianity? Why do people go out of their way to belitle Mr Tebow? And why did they sneer and nudge when he lost? To be honest, as a Kiwi, I have no understanding of the game, but I do understand that he is young and will learn and excel.

      Atheists, such as myself, do not believe in God. That does not mean that we do not respect and admire people that do.

      For myself; I loved the little girl at the end. “Wow.”

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    • Tea Party Animal
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 7:37am

      Archon: Actually, it’s NOT “exclusively their mission” to prevent homosexual marriage. This issue is ONLY what gets “coverage” by the media. If you go to Focus on the Family website, they are involved in ALL aspects of Christian living and salvation.

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    • Marcia
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 7:57am

      TheThirdArchon shows his Bilical ignorance in contrasting the Old Testament to the New Testament. The New Testament which was written AFTER Christ died fulfills the old requirements of the law. The message is simple and even one a child could understand: Accept Christ and have eternal life with God. Period – nothing else required. Yes, even gays qualify.

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 8:23am

      LOL@3rd…
      It was CHRISTIANS who were hunted in the salem witch hunt!! Not actual “witches!”
      They were ACCUSED of being witches.
      LOL
      You might want to read some history on that.
      Besides, the fact that they died “proved” they were not witches – per thier accuser’s own standards.
      Oh, and it was a CHRISTIAN who put an end to it.
      You might want to read some history on that.

      As for why they chose John 3:16…
      Congratulations on your new job as the arbiter of adverising. We must all seek and recieve YOUR approval prior to advertising, now?
      Maybe they are capitalizing on Tebow’s fame and popularity?
      Maybe they understand that restoring LOVE and CHARITY and GOODNESS is the key to focusing on the family?
      Maybe they understand that accepting Christ will lead to strong families?
      Just thinking out loud.

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    • BLACKDIAMONDSKIER
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 8:25am

      Great video. Simple, positive and encouraging Biblical message. I don’t know how TTArchon gets from this video to scripture on homosexuality but here is some truth I believe in.

      There are enormous differences in people’s views of homosexual behavior just to state the obvious. I believe most of it comes from those that defer to the Bible for guidance on right vs wrong / good vs evil and those who do not. For those that use the Bible as guidance for decisions, God’s harsh statements about homosexuality and nations that accept it and normalize it should cause pause at the minimum. For those that hate God, and hate the idea of people deferring to Biblical guidance for answers on tough issues like this one may, but not always, disagree. I realize that there are thousands of differing degrees of beliefs on this issue but the one verse that I have found to have the most relevance besides the ones that speak directly to God’s stance on homosexuality is the following…….In Proverbs 14:12 it says, There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death. This country operates on the “way that seems right to a man.” If we choose to go this route …o.k. Just remember Proverbs 14:12 when finally humbled at the end of that road. It won’t be the first time in history people believed they knew more than God or reduced Him to a myth. It just didn’t work out real well for them in the end.

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    • HellAndBack
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 8:52am

      3rd, You Obvioulsy dont know anything about True Christians. Which is why your arguements are sad and hollow.

      You cont LOGIC away Faith, or Feel it away. God Came to us in All Ways. First: He gave us His Mind, Commandments of LAW. Second: He Gave us His Body, CHRIST. Finally: He Gave us His Spirit. HOLY SPIRIT. Know these things First, Then come to discuss. Of Course by then you will have negated your own doubts.

      You Claim they have a Mission… What you Claim is a small part of the Whole MISSION. Gays have only ONE Judge, as do we all.

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    • Buckeye_Guy58
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 9:01am

      Dude, we get it. Your a free spirited atheist. SWEET!!!. You’re so cool, we are all so inspired by your atheistic postings to every story. It’s obvious that this is taking a serious toll on you, and is troubling you. Why don’t you just believe what you believe and be done with it. Or advertise what you believe by NOT bashing or attempting to bash what others think. You’re coming off like the people you apparently despise, only your direct attempt to insult others is kind of annoying.

      By the way, your post…. makes no sense. lol Not even a little bit. I mean for Christ sake they put the verse 3:16 in there for you to read, so I know you know what it is. What does all that mumbo jumbo you put have to do with anything? If you‘re claiming God doesn’t love gays your wrong. The sins they are committing (as you mentioned) are punishable and not worthy of God glory. BUT, the party you failed to mention is how verses like 3:16 amongst many others show that repenting for your sins, regardless of what they may be, and recognizes Christ as lord will get you that glory.

      Look dude, at the end of the day, I couldn’t give a s#$% if you go to heaven. Not very Christian like ( I know) but honestly I don’t. I would hope you get saved, but it has nothing to do with me. I would just appreciate a more educated opponent, whose intent is not to insult people IN EVERY..SINGLE.. POST.

      Always remember my friend.. If you’re right, and I’m wrong,.. so what. If I‘m right and YOU’

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    • ketchsailor
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 9:17am

      Scary thoughts from Scripture given the present administration and what has been forced down the throats of the “ religious right” dont you think ?

      and given that you have quoted this scripture and the implications of that scripture, would you agree that this country of the USA has been come ripe for God’s judgement?

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    • AmazingGrace8
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 9:24am

      @db321

      Well said…Amen!

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 9:57am

      Yo NZKIWI:
      This increasing “attack” on christianity/christians = Christ, is spoken of in scripture written almost 2000 years ago … look and see what is going on in the rest of the world … this is not by chance … the anti-christ is alive and well and relentless in the purpose of replacing Christ … before His return scripture says that the world will be killing christians thinking they are doing the will of God … one can see this mindset taking place … it happens slowly but steadily; where some in America even liken believers to be as bad as terrorists ( and we are called to LOVE our ENEMY) , the laws being passed RIGHT NOW in our government have the final purpose of doing just that ….sad thing … I believe some “christians” in they’re own ignorance are actually helping to pass these laws …. stick around.. and you will see the truth of my words … maybe then you will believe ……………..

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    • Tsam
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 10:22am

      @3rd Acorn: ” 22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

      Ummm…actually ****- “sexual relations with a man” are quite different than what “a man as one does with a woman”. Same goes for lesbian sex.

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    • klevalt
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 10:27am

      I am not sure that the “mission” of FoF is as you say, in fact, I see no where in that Mission a reference to homosexuality: http://family.custhelp.com/ci/fattach/get/281787/

      AND MOST Christians will agree that God LOVES ALL of us… AND He acknowledges that we are all sinners, and WE need to CHOOSE to believe in Him in order to receive that everlasting life…

      Yes, God hates sin. He hates ALL sin.

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 10:50am

      There is a fallacy in promoting only John 3:16 as the cornerstone of the Christian faith….its a beginning point at best. The enemy would have you believe that your mere acknowledgement that Jesus is the son of God sent to this earth to save mens souls is all you must do. Even the Devil knows Jesus is the son of God, even the demons acknowledge Jesus as the son of God and said as much when Jesus found the man in the graveyard tormented by demons. The demons said to Jesus, Have you come to torment us BEFORE THE APPOINTED TIME?

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    • TheVoice1
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 11:13am

      ha ha ha!!! A beautiful add! Made possible by Focus on the Family and wonderful children, children! Something homosexuals and lesbians can never produce… children! That’s why we call it family and marriage a family institution… oh yeah, you can go outside your “relationship” and get a kid to raise, boys as girls, even demand the boy be a “girl scout”.. oh how rich is that, but you cannot produce a family. This add is about just that, a family, and not an anti add about anything else you **** and lisbo trolls… don’t flatter yourselves

      Stand Strong America

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    • hi
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 11:29am

      The Third Archon
      Christians love gays. Libs hate them.

      An anology is a crack addict where the Christian tells them the truth in love that they are destroying their life. We make the drugs illegal and have programs to help them get sober. Most important, we try to help them know God’s infinite love for them.

      Whereas a lib will just give them needles.

      A Christian loves gays because we help them know the truth of God’s love.
      A lib hates gays because he eggs him on to keep on the path of destruction.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 12:06pm

      We should be more concerned with the Christian values of political candidates than those of sports figures:

      Breaking news: Karen Santorum Living with Abortion Doctor Before Rick

      http://inyourfaceradio.net/karen-santorum-living-with-abortion-doctor-before-rick/

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    • breedofthe45
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 12:35pm

      Archon, Archon what what we should do to stop the Evil Christians from bashing Gays because of Leviticus? I mean, In the Quaran also is detestable for Allah that his Children are sleeping with the very same sex, but you ain’t gonna say nothing because that is Politically Incorrect to say Muslims are against Gays[matter of fact they get stone to death just as Leviticus want it in Islam] But hey! Muslims are not anti-gay, only Christians and Jews are anti-gay, anti-science, bigots, fascist, imperialists and worst “Conservatives’. Well, since i still don’t understand why these Gays want Christian Churches to promote their Marriage Rights[ is not like you gays are gonna go to Mosques and tell all Muslims that what Allah said about Gays is wrong therefore Mosques should Married Gay Couples and Forget about what Allah said cause he was and still is a Moron] Let’s see how can we solve the Gay Problem shall we? We can burn every single copy of the Bible and close down every single Christian Church in America, would that make you Gays more comfortable? Or we can tell Christians Children that God loves Gays and hate Straight people, now for that one we can’t let them read that Evil Bible cause then they will find out that Leviticus book in it and then what? Or better yet, let’s put every single Christian in a Re-Education Camp by Force and force them to spit on the word of God since Gays feel God is a Bigot[don't worry Muslims, Allah is sooo cool with Gays]

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    • encinom
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 1:07pm

      The with the rainbow afro wig is more affective than a bunch of brain washed children.

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    • EchoHawk
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 1:22pm

      No better example of indoctrination has ever been televised.

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    • aragona
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 2:11pm

      Only 1.4% of the American population is homosexual. Did you know that? Until I came across this little factoid, I honestly thought it was much much much higher. That’s what Hollywood and gay rights activists would lead us to believe. Talk about a tyranny of the minority! and an extreme minority at that.

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    • Jinglebob
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 2:23pm

      Very nice, award winning for its simplisty and it’s message. Believe…and accept God’d grace, it’s free.

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    • HippoNips
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 4:04pm

      YOU are not using an accurate version of the Bible , you are using a “dynamic” translations…..which is paraphrased and not literal translation
      Buy a KIng James version or before, the NIV, NLT, God’s word, ect are all perverted Bibles

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    • HippoNips
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 4:12pm

      In the Focus on the Family ad, they use a version that is NOT from a literally translated Bible, they use the NIV version
      They are not Christians if they use ANY Bible that is not a literal translation

      King James and the ones written before are literal translations, The NIV was published in 1972 by social engineers that perverted much of the scripture to add hate esp for gays , and a basis for “social justice”
      John 3;16 is actually
      16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on January 17, 2012 at 3:09am

      Focus on the Family is following Jesus.

      Matthew 10:15 and Matthew 19:4-6.

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  • NewLife56
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:29pm

    Nice message, good ad, hope to see more of this

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    • FreedomDefender33
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 6:27am

      I agree

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    • JRook
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 9:24am

      What no ad for 9:26 … oh that was Tebow’s passing stats. No ad for 5:13…. oh that was Tebow’s rushing stats. No ad for 3:4…. oh that was his 3 losses in his last four starts. Timmy needs to focus on football and keep his personal relationship with Christ personal.

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    • breedofthe45
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 12:40pm

      Sure Jrook……If it was a Muslim would you have said the same? I mean people loved Muhammad Ali and everybody knew he was a Muslim. Are you a Bigot against Christians and Jews only? Is only the Christians the ones that you can’t stand therefore you want EVERYBODY to hate them as well?

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    • Marine25
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 2:44pm

      @breedofthe45
      Who is claiming Muslims and Jews are not just as hateful to gays as Christians? Okay I will say it. The 3 major religions are all equally hateful and ignorant. They have all been responsible for millions of deaths and they all base their lives on childish superstitions. There. That fair and balanced enough for ya?
      And another thing, gays don’t want churches to recognize their marriages, just the government.

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    • HippoNips
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 4:17pm

      In the Focus on the Family ad, they use a version that is NOT from a literally translated Bible, they use the NIV version
      They are not Christians if they use ANY Bible that is not a literal translation

      King James and the ones written before are literal translations, The NIV was published in 1972 by social engineers that perverted much of the scripture to add hate esp for gays , and a basis for “social justice”
      John 3;16 is actually
      16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life

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    • Samsss
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 11:06pm

      Agreed!1 And “Blackdiamondskier” you are so right on!!! Thanks to all the positive commenters on the page. I do believe that if Lot were to come back today, he and God would be able to find more than a few “righteous ones” here in the good ‘ol USA!! One thing I know – Our God hates all sin!! Including “false testimony” and that has an awesomely broad definition. Made me think of the times in my past when I bore witness to the Truth and wasn’t living It!! Wow! — – - Seems like I’m never gonna get it exactly right (good thing He hates sin but loves sinners!) – – - guess that’s why Jesus had to come an do what He did! Thank you Jesus for loving all of us – ALL! Oh yes, and I understand that “repent” means “180 degree turn”?? Yep!

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    • breedofthe45
      Posted on January 17, 2012 at 5:39am

      @MARINE25
      Nope, that is not enough, put your money where your mouth is, Start making the parents of those Islamic Kids at schools learn that Allah will never even be mention, the Quarn is trash and force them to learn that Darwin Killed Allah too and use the Muslim Parents’s tax money to do so as you Marxist Groupies do to the Christians. Or what? Do you think the Christians will still play your little Science Politically Correct Games after the Bigotry and endless persecution of ONE RELIGION IN SPECIFIC you Socialist Fundamentalist have put up for them? Oh no, no no…or we all play the game or you can play it alone MARINE25.

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  • kalli
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:23pm

    I was in awe to see this ad, and last week, hoped that tebowing would take off like wildfire. Unless we return to our love and obedience to God, this nation will continue to be under the wrath of God and will follow other kingdoms that have fallen throughout Bible history. Time is of the essence, and Tim Tebow, who inspires our youth, is a model example of how to live giving thanks and glory to God in everything. He is only one instrument to help spread God’s promise found in John 3:16 throughout the world. Focus on the Family is another. For non-believers, “know God, know Hope—no God, no Hope.”

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    • mathews2113
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:28pm

      Amen

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    • YAHSHUARULES
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 7:17am

      Speaking of God’s judgement if you have not seen this do watch it. I was astounded at what Rabbi Jonathan Cahn revealed about the warnings (Harbingers) the Almighty has been sending for the last 10+ years that line up precisely with the same he sent to ancient Israel and they ignored. Did you know “ground zero” was where the USA was dedicated to God by George Washington? Judgement comes to the place of dedication. We have turned our back on The Almighty and He has sent harbingers of warning that as a just and HOLY God He is removing His hand of protection from us for our highmindedness, pride, arrogance, godlessness, acceptance of depravity, etc – for lack of repentence and godly sorrow at sin; there is a connection between Washington’s dedication of the country to the stone church at ground zero that stood untouched and ancient Israel’s Temple Mount, Federal Hall in NYC and war in Iraq, stock market crashes of 2001 and 2008 and so much more! As preposterous as this might sound to unbelievers, suspend judgment till you view

      Let those that have eyes to see see and ears to hear hear. . It is all in the record, all events happened, no conspiracy here, just the unfolding of a very frightening prophesy if America does not heed the warnings, turn from its wicked ways and seek HIS face.
      the same pattern for judgment on ancient Israel is being played out in America here is proof:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9IjIrxun40&feature=related

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    • YAHSHUARULES
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 7:54am

      Sorry about that I need to correct the link regarding harbingers and ground zero et all. I really wish we could edit posts. Either that or I have to stop doing this in the middle of the night ;)
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcsv4t9SzTg

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    • Bro Geo Too
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 9:30am

      Kalli, Mathew 2113, and Yahshuarules–thanks for your steadfast encouragement.

      Yahshuarules…the link is astounding! Absolutely amazing. 2 Chronicles 7-14 indeed!

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    • teebubba
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 10:26am

      “And in the 25th hour of the 7th day God created Tebow”

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    • Samsss
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 11:15pm

      Very well said “Kalli” – and it is so sad that “Encinom” and “Echohawk” seem to see “brainwashed” children. Somehow, I do not think that is what God saw when he looked at that! Great work “FOF” and please, hang in there!!!

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  • mathews2113
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:23pm

    we need more people to stand up for GOD like Tebow . Christians need to unite to make a change in this country.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 3:04am

      I don’t care how they did. You have a team that was pegged to be 5-11 at the beginning of the season, was supposed to be the last place team of the AFC West, and they took the West, beat the Steelers, and lost to what everyone is placing as the AFC Champions. Wow, as a Broncos fan, all I can say is WOW. Tebow did what he was supposed to do, and the rest of the team rose to the occasion. They lost, but then again, this is like Rocky, he wasn’t suposed to go the distance.

      Tebow went the distance, and lost. I will take that over Ryan, and Campell, and Bradford, and Cutler, and…….all the rest of the QB’s that were watching the game.

      Broncos, Broncos, Broncos.
      And John 3:16 all day long.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 3:16am

      By the way, the sunset tonight over the frontrange was orange, proof, God loves the Broncos.

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    • bpschoch
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 12:36pm

      As Christians, our only job is share his word. The holy spirit fills and supports us (notice why many Christains have a piece about them? Many people think that they are just pretending but it is genuine peace). God uses all his people (Christians and nons) to do his work.

      Many people are looking at the Tebow thing as good helping his team win! That is absolutely wrong, God is using Tebow in order to help get his message out. Do you think the large viewship and the focus on Tebow and the John 3:16 ad furthered Gods agenda (the one to share the word with many people). John 3:16 is absolutely one of the main core messages of Christianity. Wouldn‘t that passage make people who don’t know much about Christ and look up that verse and start asking questions?

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  • Never Offended
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:11pm

    All of these children are humongous dorks.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:17pm

      That’s not very nice. They are mere unwitting tools being used by humungous dorks.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:17pm

      Since you are never offended i guess you wont respond when i tll you to go F yourself?

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    • Never Offended
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:25pm

      @BadDoggy haha

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    • Knight Templar
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:27pm

      Ever notice who the first ones to throw out the word dork are?

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    • DR4SOUL
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:45pm

      If that’s what you think, your user name is an oxymoron! The kids know an important Biblical truth that you desperately need to consider and accept. “But has many as received Him, to them gave He the right to become children of God, even to those who believe on His name.” (John 1:12) Also check out why the acts of Jesus were recorded in John’s Gospel. Take a look at John 20:30,31: “Therefore many other signs Jesus also performed in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name.“ These truths are far from being ”dorkish.” In fact, accepting them or rejecting them will dictate your eternal destiny. John also wrote in his first epistle: “The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself; the one who does not believe God has made Him a liar because he has not believed in the testament that God has given concerning His Son. And the testimony is this, that God has given to us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. These things I have written to you who believe on the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.”

      So, are they “humongous dorks?” I THINK NOT! In fact, it appears that you are the “humongous dork! BUT, the good news is that God loves dor

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    • Brooke Lorren
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 12:34am

      Matthew 5:11 ~ “Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.”

      Thanks for just blessing those kids. I guess that you don’t realize when you say ill about someone because of their belief in Christ, you’re giving them a compliment, in the Lord’s eyes (which is really the only opinion that counts).

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 3:14am

      Yet those kids who go out and commit violence against each other are cool? LOL

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    • stage9
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 3:31am

      As opposed to what? Atheist science fiction believing clones?

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    • nzkiwi
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 7:51am

      @Never Offended

      How can you possibly post such an uncharitable remark. Are you merely looking for a response?

      They are children and, as far as one can tell, decent and well brought up.

      Unlike yourself. it seems.

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    • kalayaan
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 11:58am

      The Occupy Wall Street Protesters are dorkier than these kids…

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  • waggie
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:07pm

    What a blessing Focus on the Family is and has been to me and my family in the past as well. Go to Focus.org to find information on just about any family topic you can think of. From raising teenagers to connecting with your spouse, etc. God bless Tim Tebow and Focus! Thank you Jesus for giving us LIFE!

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  • fulcrum
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:02pm

    So Tim Tebow becomes an instrument on God’s hand to rebuild his kingdom and abolish evil in this country.
    We can only hope!!!

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    • CIAtroll
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 7:51am

      I thought that was Glenn Becks role

      use fear and Hate to take away our rights

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    • breedofthe45
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 1:12pm

      Glenn Beck? Ohh i see, if it was Bill Maher is ok for him to take away our rights? I love how these Christians are just not giving up to the Marxist Groupies…kuddos Christians, about time you stand up for your rights too.

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  • jsDway
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:55pm

    The witness to God and His Son Jesus – was truly a blessing during this game. Tebow may not have won the game, but he still brought a great witness to millions! Thank you Focus on the Family and Tebow for this great message of the Gospel of Christ – John 3:16!

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  • Totally Domestic
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:46pm

    WOW, what’s this nation coming to SANITY?

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  • hillbillyinny
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:45pm

    Only believe!

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  • KingCanon
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:43pm

    Focus on the Family has ALWAYS been a BLESSING! ALWAYS!
    Our national media should have never strayed to where it is today
    but should have followed the GODLY example set by this wonderful
    organization under retired leader Dr. James Dobson.
    What a different world this would be!

    Focus on the Family in Colorado Springs is truly HEAVEN on EARTH!

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  • nuttyvet
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:43pm

    God was a Pats fan Saturday ;)

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  • merchantsailor
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:41pm

    I watched the game first game this year and saw the commercial. I got chills with a great big grin, great Ad got the message across.

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  • Semper4everSemper
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:36pm

    An honest question: Has anyone seriously attempted to figure what the odds were that Tebow would throw for 316 yards, average 31.6 yards per pass AND get s 31.6 tv rating all in the same game? That must be some infinitesimal number I would think. God maybe didn‘t care who won that game but I think He’s got a great knack for message sending numbers.

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    • chumpThreads
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:43pm

      Actually Xians have a great propensity to indulge in confirmation bias.

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    • Semper4everSemper
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:03pm

      Chump check this out –
      http://www.reasons.org/
      God Bless ya!

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:08pm

      Uh, throwing for 316 yards is completely random.

      He only completed 10 passes out of 21, thus 31.6 yards per pass is a mere math equation and I believed he only got a 31.6 share for the last quarter and a half, not for the entire game.

      I notice that people aren’t looking for Bible verses for his stats in the game which they lost 45-10 yesterday.

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    • maccow
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:20pm

      Moderation
      No body had to “look” for the 316 connection to the bible. It was a rather obvious statement.

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    • chumpThreads
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:26pm

      @semper4eversemper

      Why did you send me to the website of an intellectually dishonest hack? Hugh Ross is a joke.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 2:58am

      Hey Mod,

      You just can’t control yourself can you?

      Do you start twitching when you see posts like this.

      I thought you said you had no problem with people practicing the faith of their choice?

      The only time you were going to speak your mind and set the record straight was when we try to force our beliefs on you by passing legislation with the intent of establishing a “Theocracy”

      But other than that, you are fine with our religion, and you even have many Christian, and Jewish friends. Hell, you even have Mormon family members.

      Funny thing though Mod, I didn‘t see anything at all in SEMPER’S post about electing Christians so that they could pass legislation to create a……….dare I say it………“THEOCRACY” for the sole purpose of cramming our beliefs down your throat.

      Oh, and one more thing, the Steelers time of possession was 31 minutes & 6 seconds.

      Peace

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  • chumpThreads
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:34pm

    So going forward, on what basis will the network reject ads from:
    Muslims
    Hindus
    Pagans
    Scientologists
    Freedom From Religion Foundation?

    I‘m sure they’ll think of a reason.

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  • HighStandards
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:34pm

    I really appreciated this commercial. We usually pause and fast forward through because ads these days are so trashy. My kids had the biggest grin. Even at their age of 9 and 10 they welcomed the commercial as a refreshing change. I have to ask do some of the more recent versions of the Bible remove his only “begotten” son?

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  • Chappy123
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:29pm

    God Bless Tim Tebow and The Broncos.

    They have together opened the eyes of many.

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    • GeorgieJo
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:57pm

      AMEN CHAPPY

      I have never watched a football game and have always known 3:16 so the way I see it—-God connected the 2 for me (if even only for a few minutes)

      Thank You Tim for showing and LIVING your belief and faith

      BTW WHO WON?

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  • SurhanSurhan
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:28pm

    How can God have a “one and only” son or a “begotten son” if the Bible says King David is God’s son too?

    Psalm 2:7: “The LORD said to me, ‘You are my son. Today I have become your Father. (NLT)

    Psalm 2:7: I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. (KJV)

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    • HighStandards
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:41pm

      Jesus Christ is Gods only begotten son. Psalm 2:7 is a prophecy about the Savior.

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    • hillbillyinny
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:41pm

      Almost all Bible commentaries find Psalm 2 to be a Messianic Psalm, looking forward to the coming of the Messiah. The statement in verse 7 is being said about the Messiah BY David, not about himslef. The Messiah was to come from the liniage of Davied, which Jesus did.

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:50pm

      @SurhanSurhan

      In Psalm 2:7, he was speaking about Yahshua who was to come come from the bloodline of David through Yahshua’s mother. That is verified in Hebrews 1:5. Yahshua was the only son who was BEGOTTEN by Yahweh.

      A little bit of study on the difference in eastern thought and western thought will help to clarify the meaning of the expression that was used.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:51pm

      @SURHANSURHAN How can God have a “one and only” son or a “begotten son” if the Bible says King David is God’s son too?

      Psalm 2:7: “The LORD said to me, ‘You are my son. Today I have become your Father. (NLT)

      Psalm 2:7: I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. (KJV)
      SURHAN That was Jesus using David as mediator..Jesus/Yeshua was throughout the Old Testament..He spoke through David..David was not saying that God called David His only begotten Son. Jesus was speaking through David saying that God His Father called Jesus His Son..His only begotten Son. For instance Surhan..The Lord(Jesus) and two angels visited Abraham and Sarah telling them of the seed of promise(the birth of Jesus into humanity) would come through them both..Genesis 18:1-19:38 Lesson 9
      Key Verse: 18:19 you see Surhan..Jesus/Yeshua was with God creating with Him from the foudations of the world. John 1 If you you read all of Hebrews 1…God the Father calls Jesus..His Son…God..He says, “God” Your God…So you see..God the Father calls His Son Jesus God (authority) while calling Himself (Father God) Supreme God . He has always been ,Surhan , there with God from the foundations of the world and slain from the foundations of the world..

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    • SurhanSurhan
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:11pm

      How can God have a “one and only” son or a “begotten son” if the Bible says King David is God’s son too?

      Psalm 2:7: “The LORD said to me, ‘You are my son. Today I have become your Father. (NLT)

      Psalm 2:7: I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. (KJV)
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      King David (pbuh) is talking to his subjects…he is telling his subjects (the people that he rules over), that God, told me (King David) you are my son, I am your father. God told King David he was his father 1000 years before Jesus was born. How can Jesus be God’s “only son”?

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    • DR4SOUL
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:15pm

      That Scripture is prophetic in that it looks forward to the Messiah of Israel who will one day sit on the throne of David. “You are my Son” recalls 2 Sam. 7:8-16 as the basis for the Davidic king. It is also the only Old Testament reference to the Father/Son relationship in the Trinity, a relationship decreed in eternity past and demonstrated in the incarnation, thus a major part of the New Testament. The phrase, “Today I have begotten you” expresses the privileges of relationship, with its prophetic application to the Son – Messiah. This verse is quoted in the New Testament with reference to the birth of Christ (Heb. 1:5,6) and also to His resurrection (Acts 13:33,34) as the earthly affirmations.

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:16pm

      Surhan, you’re thinking too literally.

      God didn’t have a son, he himself was his son. He then sacrificed himself, to himself to create a loophole for a system that he created. Pretty illogical right?

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:49pm

      @SURHANSURHAN I realize that this is a difficult concept for you to grasp..as I am sure that you are taught to think in black and white so to speak.. but the Lord Jesus Yeshua actually appeared with two angels in human form to speak to Sarah and Abraham about having a son whom they would call Issac..who would be the fore father of Jesus born into humanity..So you see Surhan..Jesus was all through the Old Testament both in human form and in Spirit..That is how He was speaking through David prophesying.. It wasn’t David who was Gods only begotten Son..but it was Jesus..Jesus was always with God..He was born into humankind and for a short time 33 yrs was made a little lower than the angels..but after he died for you and me and rose again…he went to sit at the right hand of Father God and was much higher than the angels.. God the Father..His Son Jesus and the Holy Spirit of God are one in purpose and have always been from the foundations of the world. His gift is the gift of love and eternal life in the kingdom of God..It is a free gift for anyone accepting Him as their personal Lord and Saviour..then loving Him by being obedient to His word ..For we were all born into sin because of the downfall of Adam and Eve..If you seek you shall find knock and the door shall be opened to you ask and it shall be given to you..that would be the Holy Spirt Surhan.One day..every knee shall bow..every one above the earth.upon the earth and below the earth every tongue confess that He is Lor

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    • SurhanSurhan
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 11:12pm

      @ ASHESTOASHES- “Jesus was always with God’
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      It seems to me Jesus wasn’t the only one that was always with God: Jeremiah 1:5: Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the world.
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      How can a man be a Prophet to the world before he was in his mother’s womb? He must have been with God before he was born.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 11:42pm

      @SURHAN I truly believe that you are being called Surhan.. the elect were chosen from the foundations of the world and God did know us before we were formed in the womb..I am providing you a link which will give you more scripture to help you understand..
      http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Books,%20Tracts%20&%20Preaching/Printed%20Books/Dr%20Jack%20Hyles/Salvation/election_at_salvation.htm

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    • Ceefoo
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 12:02am

      This is what happens when people put God in a box. You are clearly thinking in linear terms about God. Sure he knew Jeremiah before he was born because God is not bound by time, he stands outside of it. He knows the end from the beginning. It is clear you are a Muslim so let me ask you some questions. If God is great and all powerful, who are we to say what he can and can not have. Islam claims God can not have a son. Who made this determination for the almighty. If Esa(pbuh) is a prophet of Islam and Muslims are to adhere to his commands then why does Islam teach the opposite of what Esa(pbuh) taught. Why would Islam teach that Jesus did not die on the cross but rather God faked his death. What glorifies God more, faking the death of his son or actually having him die and ressurecting him. If you confine God to a box then how can you call him great and almighty. There is nothing he can not do. This includes having a son. If we are created in Gods image and we have sons and daughters then why is it such a stretch to believe God has one.

      The true measure of a God is one that would take his own creations form in order that he might teach them what he desires for their life and how He wants them to live. It is free will that has allowed sin to exist. But without free will we would just be robots programmed to do what we are told.(ISLAM) God desires for us to love him freely. It would mean nothing any other way. You have the choice freely to love him as he loves you or not

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    • SurhanSurhan
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 12:52am

      @ CEEFOO- “If God is great and all powerful, who are we to say what he can and can not have.”
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      God can do whatever He wishes to do. But He can’t do foolish things. He can‘t lie and He can’t play tricks. It is beneath the dignity of God to do these thing. It is also beneath the dignity of God to have a son. How can God have a son if he has no wife?
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      “If Esa(pbuh) is a prophet of Islam and Muslims are to adhere to his commands then why does Islam teach the opposite of what Esa(pbuh) taught.”
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      If you say Jesus is God’s son because Jesus (pbuh) was led by the spirit of God, Muslims can except that. This definition is also scriptural: Romans 8:14: For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
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      “Why would Islam teach that Jesus did not die on the cross but rather God faked his death”
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      Islam does not teach that God faked Jesus’ death. No one died. This too, is Biblical.
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      “If you confine God to a box then how can you call him great and almighty. There is nothing he can not do. This includes having a son”
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      It is disrespectful to God to say that He has a son. By denying that God has a son, Muslims elevate God to His status.
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      ” If we are created in Gods image and we have sons and daughters then why is it such a stretch to believe God has one.”—–This to is disrespectful. There is nothing at all like God!

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    • SurhanSurhan
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 1:21am

      @ CEEFOO- Changes to some mistakes I made: It is disrespectful to God to say that He has a son. By denying that God has a son, Muslims elevate God to His God status.
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      ” If we are created in Gods image ”
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      This too is disrespectful. There is nothing at all like God!

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    • Ceefoo
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 2:08am

      So God can do whatever he wishes but he can not have a son because you say it is disrespectful to him. There you go again speaking for God.

      So God can not have a son because he doesn’t have a wife. There you go again putting God in a box.

      Does the almighty, creator of all that is, was, and ever will be need a wife in order to have a son?

      Did he not form Adam and Eve from clay and breathe life into them? Did they have a mother?

      Jesus taught to turn the other cheek. Islam teaches an eye for an eye. How is it that the seal of the prophets is not teaching the same thing that Jesus taught?

      Christianity was spread by faith with many being fed to the lions. Islam spread by the sword. When did Jesus teach conversion by the sword? He didnt.

      Islam itself believes in the miraculous birth. If Jesus was born of a virgin, who is his father then???

      I personaly know many former Muslims who believe it was Judas on the cross made to look like Jesus by Gods hand. God doesnt have to fake anything.

      If Jesus taught us to deny our flesh, why is it that Islam offers rewards of the flesh in heaven of all places? As though spirits have flesh and endulge in sexual activities in heaven.

      It is disrespectful to God to say he has a son. So say YOU. It could be disrespectful to him to say he doesn’t and can not. After all he is the almighty. Who are we to tell HIM what he can and can not have.

      “By denying that God has a son Muslim elevate God to his God status.” So we dec

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    • SurhanSurhan
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 2:32am

      @ CEEFOO- God can do whatever He wishes but He cannot do foolish things. If God wishes to create something He merely has to say to that thing “Be” and that thing is.I.E.: “Let there BE light; BE fruitful and multiply.

      Ask the former Muslims that you know to show you in the Qur’an where it says that God replaced Judas for Jesus so that Jesus could live and Judas died. That’s probably why they are not Muslims anymore. The don‘t know the Qur’an.

      You don’t know enough about Islam for us to have a conversation about it, so let’s just stick to the Bible.

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    • Ceefoo
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 2:36am

      Truth is Surhan, God does not need you to elevate him to anything. He is the most high with or with out your approval. Since he is the most high, it is clear he chooses what is disrespectful to him or not. You have been told these things to keep you from questioning your Imam. You claim that God has no son because he has no wife and yet Mary was a virgin when she had Jesus. Why does God need a wife to be born in the flesh when it was Mary who was Jesus’ mother. Makes no sense. She was impregnated by the word just as all that is, was, and ever will be was created by the word.

      Jesus teaches that God is love and yet the koran never does. In fact I dont think you can tell me any surahs in which God states his love for his creation. Why is that?

      Many people fall into the Islam trap because they have a need to be told what to do and when to do it. Once you turn your free will over to Islam you in fact become a zombie who follows blindly whatever the Imam tells you. It is much harder to follow your own consience and walk after Jesus without being forced to.

      Jesus also taught let one man marry one woman and yet Islam teaches something different then that as well. I could go on and on forever but it is not my intention to anger you, only get you thinking about God and the fact that we can not and do not elevate him to anything. He is, was, and always will be wether we like it or not. The Most High. The Almighty. The Great I Am.

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    • Ceefoo
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 2:50am

      Actually Surhan there are many Hadiths that speak to many things such as the Judas Jesus myth they portray. I agree there is a reason that those former muslims are now christians and its becasue they found the God of love. The God that would die a fleshly death for his creation. Why is it that the distinctions between Jesus and Mohammed are so clear? I mean if Mohammed was the final seal of the prophets then surely he would have been the one born of a virgin. Makes no sense. Why is it that Jesus is the only prophet of Islam who is born of a virgin? Ask your Imam. I bet he has hard time answering that one huh.
      I think your scared of the truth and that is why you dont want to talk about the koran anymore.
      You see my english version of the koran gets alot of use these days with folks like you.
      You wopuld much rather distort what the bible states than answer honest questions about Islam.
      Face it, Islam hijacked the message Jesus brought to the world and used it in unholy ways. The word says that if any man add to the words of the book he better watch out. Islam has clearly added and distorted the words of the book. This is why Mohhamed taught so many things contrary to Jesus.
      But you know this deep down inside. The holy spirit is just waiting for you to open that door and ask Jesus to show you who he truely is.

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    • SurhanSurhan
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 2:53am

      @ CEEFOO- ” In fact I dont think you can tell me any surahs in which God states his love for his creation. Why is that?”
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      The Holy Qur’an states: If you (O Mankind) love God, then follow Prophet Muhammad and God will love you. (Hows that?)
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      “Jesus also taught let one man marry one woman and yet Islam teaches something different then that as well.”
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      Then someone had better tell Abraham (who married his sister), Moses, Lot (who had sex with his daughters and got them pregnant) Solomon (who had 1000 wives and concubines) and David (who had a man killed so he could have the man’s wife) that they are not prophets and messengers of God.

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    • unbound1
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 3:15am

      Surhan, I just wanted to reply to your comment “The Holy Qur’an states: If you (O Mankind) love God, then follow Prophet Muhammad and God will love you. (Hows that?)”

      The Bible teaches that God loved us BEFORE we loved him or did anything for him. The Qur‘an says YOU have to do something to earn God’s love, but it’s actually the opposite. There is nothing we can do to please God, as we are all sinners, and even our good deeds are like filthy rags compared to His holiness. (Isaiah 64:6)

      Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates His own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”

      We can not obtain God’s righteousness, there are no laws or things we can do to be acceptable to a Holy God, so because of his desire to be with us, and because he loves us, He sent His son to pay for our sins. He loves you, Surhan and wants you to accept Jesus Christ into your heart, and receive the Holy Spirit. Revelations 4:20 “Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me.” He does not use force!. He gently knocks and gives you a choice.

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    • Ceefoo
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 3:27am

      So according to you God only loves those who love him. Jesus taught that God loves us all unconditionally. Just as a father or mother loves their child unconditionally. There is no if you love me I will love you. Only the God of Islam puts conditions on his love.
      It is funny that all the people you stated that had many wives came before the birth of Jesus. You know why you cant state anyone who had many wives after Jesus? Because they didn’t. And there was no need for anymore interpretaion of laws from anyone else after Jesus. That is why Mohammed is bogus. Jesus’ own words contradict what the koran says about him. It could be that 700 year gap between them but probably just the fact that Mohammed made it up as he went. How is it that from one prophet to the next things could change so much. Maybe God was confused about what he was saying. Nope dont think so.
      The koran teaches muslims to pray 5 times a day but we both know it was originally a lot more times than that until Mohammed supposedly asked God to change his mind. How many times did Mohammed go back to the cave and ask God change it til he came up with 5 times a day???

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    • SurhanSurhan
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 3:30am

      @ CEEFOO- “Hadiths that speak to many things such as the Judas Jesus myth they portray.”
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      Please, share the Sunnah or Surah that says God replaced Jesus with Judas.
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      “Why is it that Jesus is the only prophet of Islam who is born of a virgin?”
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      God chooses whom ever he wishes to carry out his mission. Would you say Abraham, Moses Solomon, David, Isaac, Jacob and John-the-baptist were not men of God because they were not born of a virgin?
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      “Face it, Islam hijacked the message Jesus brought to the world and used it in unholy ways. ”
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      Show one verse from the Qur’an that you believe came from the Bible or derived from the Bible.

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    • SurhanSurhan
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 3:37am

      @ UNBOUND1- “The Bible teaches that God loved us BEFORE we loved him or did anything for him.”
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      God does love us. It does not benefit God to love us, it benefits us to love Him.

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    • Ceefoo
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 3:43am

      Thank you Unbound, sometimes i get to typing and thinking so fast I dont do the verses justice and generalize to much. Thanks for verse checking me.

      @Surhan, All I am really saying is that you should truely compare Jesus and Mohammed and ask yourself who has God exaulted above the other. The koran teaches that no prophet is greater than another but clearly Jesus’ status as the only prophet born of a virgin would lead an intelligent person to believe something else. Why is it so important for Jesus to be born of a virgin if he is no different than the other prophets? Look deep down inside yourself and you already know the answer.

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    • Ceefoo
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 3:50am

      Just answer the and dont evade it.

      Why is it that Jesus is the only prophet of Islam born of a virgin, and what is the meaning behind it?

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    • robh
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 5:07am

      Mohammad encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.
      (Abu Dawood 2150, Qur’an 4:24)
      Jesus never encouraged rape and he never enslaved women.

      Mohammad married 13 wives and kept sex slaves.
      (Bukhari 5:268, Qur’an 33:50)
      Jesus was celibate.

      Mohammad slept with a 9-year-old child.
      (Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)
      Jesus did not have sex with children.

      Mohammad ordered the murder of women.
      (Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)
      Jesus never harmed a woman.

      Mohammad stoned women for adultery.
      (Muslim 4206)
      Jesus said, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”
      (John 8:7)

      Chronological progression of the quran is from peace to violence.
      Chronological progression of the Holy Bible is from violence to peace.

      The Qur’an does not command husbands to love their wives, but it does give men permission to beat disobedient women.
      (Qur’an 4:34, Sahih Muslim 2127)
      “Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them.”
      (No permission to beat women)
      (Colossians 3:19)

      The quran explicitly allows Muslim men to rape their female slaves, even those already married.
      (Qur’an 4:24, 70:29-30, 23:5-6…)
      The Holy Bible tells masters and slaves to serve each other as if serving God.
      (Ephesians 6:7-9)

      I can go on if you like.
      http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Jesus-Muhammad.htm

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 10:04am

      Yo Unbound1 & Ceefoo:

      Good job of defending and explaining Christ with respect … peace

      To Surhan: There is none that was born like Christ, none that lived like Christ, and none that died like Christ! …HE is unique amoung men .

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    • heartitorleaveit
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 10:51am

      Definition of IGNORANCE:
      the state or fact of being ignorant : lack of knowledge, education, or awareness

      Definition of INSANITY
      1: a deranged state of the mind usually occurring as a specific disorder (as schizophrenia)
      2: such unsoundness of mind or lack of understanding as prevents one from having the mental capacity required by law to enter into a particular relationship, status, or transaction or as removes one from criminal or civil responsibility
      3 a: extreme folly or unreasonableness b: something utterly foolish or unreasonable

      These terms describe sirhan perfectly!

      sorrysirhan- “no Covenant for you!”
      Re:
      http://www.ajuaa.com/lookme/play.php?vid=958 WARNING:Graphic images of muslims being “normal”

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    • heartitorleaveit
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 12:21pm

      ceefo, robh,unbound1,4truth2all,ashes and highstandards……

      sirhansatan past quotes:

      -“the bible is not the word of God”
      -“Jesus is a muslim”

      PROOF ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF THE ANTICHRIST-
      Some dude named ‘Yusuf Ali’ added the word ‘Abraham’ to the quran translations quran 29:27 of to make it read: “We gave (Abraham) Isaac and Jacob, and ordained among his progeny Prophethood and Revelation.” FACT!

      This really twists alot of turbins up in a wad that he would fudge this whole thing up like that!
      By adding Abraham, it is possible to include Muhammad in the prophetic line!FACT! (this however debunks the ENTIRE religion of izlam!)

      OUCH!

      We Christians believe that SATAN (Hebrew: הַשָּׂטָן ha-Satan), tried to damage the good works of ELOHIM through the serpent of Genisis, Cain,Hagar false idolatry’s etc. repeatedly throughout the Bible (Its all there and available at most book stores).
      We believe SATAN disguised as Gabrael the archangel (Hebrew: גַּבְרִיאֵל, Modern Gavri’el Tiberian Gaḇrîʼēl, God is my strength; Arabic: جبريل, Jibrīl or جبرائيل Jibrāʾīl) gave the false prophesy to muhammad and that islam is the beast.

      muhammad stating he was a prophet does not make it so.

      so, simple question (as usual) here sirhansatan:

      If islam is not the beast of the Bible then who is it? Does ELOHIM reject the teachings of the Bible, the covenant and Christianity/Judaism as your book teaches? Did EL

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    • heartitorleaveit
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 12:23pm

      Sirhansatan-
      What is the real Quran?
      -”Hudhaifa was afraid of their differences in the recitation of the Qur’an…Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur’anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt” (Hadith, Vol. 6, Book 61, #510).
      -If there were so many other copies that were destroyed, then do we have any way of knowing what the real Quran said?

      Why do you continue to repeat the same old stuff that has already been answered so many times? Are you not interested in the truth? Or, are you just interested in repeating the same old errors?

      So I am right in concluding that you do not believe the Bible is the true word of God.So, does this compel you to deny its truth? Then why do you quote the Bible so much?

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    • heartitorleaveit
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 12:26pm

      Sirhan, you state the Bible is not the word of God….
      -(Quran, 3:3)”… and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus)…”
      -(Quran, 6:34)”…there is none that can alter the words (and decrees) of Allah…” .
      – sirhan you claim Allah’s words were changed by saying the Gospels are corrupt? That means you do not believe the Quran either! You state that God’s word is never changed, but the Bible is changed. You say it USED TO BE completely true, but now it has truth combined with error. If that is so, then why do you quote it when it is convenient for you sirhan?
      Sirhansatan you say the Bible is valid when it agrees with the Quran but then will say it is wrong when it contradicts the Quran. BLASPHEME!

      No Covenant for you:

      http://www.ajuaa.com/lookme/play.php?vid=958

      Ahmad Al Qataani ÃÍãÏ ÇáÞØÚÇäí is an important Islamic cleric who said: “In every hour, 667 Muslims convert to Christianity. Everyday, 16,000 Muslims convert to Christianity. Ever year, 6 million Muslims convert to Christianity.”

      http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.php?article=527

      :]

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  • Look4DBigPicture
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:27pm

    What a dorable children! Bravo!

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  • LeadNotFollow
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:26pm

    Fantastic ad. Cute kids. Great message. Wish the main stream media would get a clue. This is what I want to see.

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  • Stoic one
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:14pm

    I would like to see more positive ads like this as well.

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:39pm

      Loved this commercial. Normally, unless a dog is involved, I don’t look at nor listen to the horrid commercials they air for most programs. I usually turn off the sound and read until the commercials are over.
      The other one I like and watch is the dog with Travelers. Especially the one where he dreams about his bone and if it’s safe, puts it in a vault and finally re-buries it in his back yard. Even I will watch cute and worthwhile commercials. I’m floored how much money these companies must pay for total crap that no one watches

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  • 4-The-Truth
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:11pm

    Tebow may have lost the Patriot game but he has won the heart and soul of many Americans. A much larger victory.

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    • jhaydeng
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:20pm

      Well spoken, but I wish he would have tore Brady a new hiney hole!!!! Just sayin!!

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    • LeadNotFollow
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:28pm

      TRUTH…
      Amen to that.

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 10:13pm

      An overwhelming majority who are already Christians, wow.

      I can just see it now.

      Right now there’s a kid in Africa who is an orphan and dying of aids. But I”m sure he’s heard of that American football playing who is making millions of dollars winning games in crazy ways and that little kid thinks “Yes, that must be God.”

      Get real.

      It’s amazing how many people use Sunday to…….WATCH FOOTBALL. Yup, your morning church service is over, gotta run home in time to watch the game.

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    • From Virginia
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 12:13am

      @Moderationisbest – I could care less about Africans – mostly because there is nothing I can do about it. They are victims of their own culture and leaders who prevent the world from assisting them. Not.My.Problem.

      But Americans ARE my problem, so yeah – I like it there was a positive ad out there of hope, salvation and eternal life for my people.

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    • Ceefoo
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 12:17am

      @Moderation
      God has already won because even you are talking about him. A butterfly flaps its wings on one side of the world and a hurricane forms on the other. It may seem small but that could just be your lack of faith. Bono and his millions have made a difference haven’t they. Im sure there were people who told him the same thing you are saying and yet he had the faith to make it happen. It will never be enough and Jesus tells us we will have the poor with us always. I would say we will have the ill with us always as well. At least until he returns. So are we just supposed to quit trying to help others around us just because we might not be able to help some kid in Africa. If you are a true Christian you are one 24/7. Sure there are hypocrits out there. I firmly believe we are all hypocrits in one way or another. Doesnt mean you stop trying not to be one.
      I would venture to say that you are here because of a Christian and your life has been affected by a Christian in more positive ways than negative. It is a reflection of you and your inner self that at every turn you seek to demean that which you are.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 3:35am

      MOD,

      And what are you doing to make the world a better place? I mean besides mocking both God and his followers.

      My bet is that Tebow will do much good with his millions. Maybe not for the orphan in Africa, but I’m sure for some. You sound envious of his success.

      You could always go over there and lend a hand.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 7:37am

      Tebow is a winner in my book.

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  • semby
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:08pm

    Beautiful; and that is how children should be behaving………..

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  • nonofmybiznez
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 8:48pm

    This is an awesome message and well worth the whole Tebow fever. This is why we need to stand for what we believe.

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  • bocajojo4
    Posted on January 15, 2012 at 8:48pm

    I did see this commercial and I stopped and looked twice …. and then thought “Yes”……….we need more …… I always listened to focus on the family while driving to work for years and will now support them so they can do more commercials….

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    • 22hornet
      Posted on January 15, 2012 at 9:37pm

      I was busy but heard and glanced at commercial. then I was stopped to look at it again but could not get it back.. But now I can..

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    • 4BlueStars
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 11:28am

      I did too. I was making soup and baking bread when I heard a snippet of it. I stopped. Looked, and thought aloud, “Well isn’t that something?’

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    • freedomofspeech
      Posted on January 16, 2012 at 3:00pm

      @4bluestars, yum homemade soup and bread.

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