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Here‘s the History Behind Occupy Wall Street’s Creepy Guy Fawkes Mask

Heres the History Behind Occupy Wall Streets Creepy Guy Fawkes Mask

NEW YORK (AP) — Look at a photo or news clip from around the world of Occupy protesters and you’ll likely spot a handful of people wearing masks of a cartoon-like man with a pointy beard, closed-mouth smile and mysterious eyes.

The mask is a stylized version of Guy Fawkes, an Englishman who tried to bomb the British Parliament on Nov. 5, 1605.

“They’re very meaningful masks,” said Alexandra Ricciardelli, who was rolling cigarettes on a table outside her tent in New York‘s Zuccotti Park two days before the anniversary of Fawkes’ failed bombing attempt.

Heres the History Behind Occupy Wall Streets Creepy Guy Fawkes Mask“It’s not about bombing anything; it’s about being anonymous – and peaceful.”

To the 20-year-old from Keyport, N.J., the Fawkes mask “is about being against The Man – the power that keeps you down.”

But history books didn‘t lead to the mask’s popularity: A nearly 30-year-old graphic novel and a five-year-old movie did.

“V for Vendetta,” the comic-based movie whose violent, anarchist antihero fashions himself a modern Guy Fawkes and rebels against a fascist government has become a touchstone for young protesters in mostly western countries. While Warner Brothers holds the licensing rights to the Guy Fawkes mask, several protesters said they were using foreign-made copies to circumvent the corporation.

Yet whether the inspiration is the comic, the movie or the historical figure, the imagery – co-opted today by everyone from Wikileaks founder Julian Assange to the hacker group Anonymous – carries stronger connotations than some of the Occupy protesters seem to understand.

Heres the History Behind Occupy Wall Streets Creepy Guy Fawkes MaskWhile Fawkes’ image has been romanticized over the past 400 years, he was a criminal who tried to blow up a government building. It would be hard to imagine Americans one day wearing Timothy McVeigh masks to protest the government or corporate greed.

Lewis Call, an assistant history professor at California Polytechnic in San Luis Obispo, said the masked protesters are adopting a powerful symbol that has shifted meaning through the centuries.

“You can seize hold of it for any political purpose you want,” he said. “That’s the real power of it.”

Fawkes was a Catholic insurrectionist executed for the bombing attempt. In the years immediately following his execution, Nov. 5 was England’s official celebration for defeating Fawkes, said Call, who has written about the nexus of Fawkes, “V for Vendetta” and modern-day protests.

Call said over the next three centuries, people in England started using Fawkes’ image in different ways. Some used Fawkes as a symbol for putting limits on state power. Others held him up as a freedom fighter.

Heres the History Behind Occupy Wall Streets Creepy Guy Fawkes Mask

Then came the comic book, a nihilistic story set in a futuristic England. And the movie. People began thinking of him as a libertarian or even anarchist hero.

“Gradually over the centuries, the meaning of Guy Fawkes has dramatically changed,” said Call. “The reputation of Guy Fawkes has been recuperated. Before he was originally seen as a terrorist trying to destroy England. Now he’s seen more as a freedom fighter, a fighter for individual liberty against an oppressive regime. The political meaning of that figure has transformed.”

Heres the History Behind Occupy Wall Streets Creepy Guy Fawkes Mask

Nearly two years after the film “V for Vendetta” was released, the hacker group Anonymous wore the Guy Fawkes masks depicted in the movie during protests against the Church of Scientology. Then came Wikileaks and the Occupy movement.

At Zuccotti Park in New York, the Guy Fawkes masks have been worn over the past month by Occupy protesters ranging from self-proclaimed anarchists to drummers to those impersonating “zombie” bankers. Few wore them Thursday afternoon because of the arrests of masked activists. But they weren’t gone – just hidden.

One was in the left hand of 32-year-old Jason J. Cross – right under a protest sign. He had 20 more stashed in his tent, to be sold at $5 apiece.

“I had 10 here yesterday, and I sold out!” he said.

Cross said he’d purchased 100 of the Chinese-made masks online.

“The origins of this mask comes from the idea of rising up against the government,” he said. “Guy Fawkes represents the fact that the people have the real power.”

Heres the History Behind Occupy Wall Streets Creepy Guy Fawkes MaskA man at the Occupy London protests on a recent day said the mask has become a potent symbol.

“It’s unifying the world under one symbol,” said the 33-year-old man who asked not to be named because he claimed to be a member of a group accused of hacking into government and corporate computer systems.

“People hide behind the masks, put the masks on and their identity is hidden. Therefore they can do a lot more than they would if they didn’t have the masks,” he said, after emerging sleepy-eyed from his tent.

The London protester said his brethren are trying to counter Warner Bros.’ control of the imagery.

He claims that Anonymous UK has imported 1,000 copies from China, and the distribution goes “straight into the pockets of the Anonymous beer fund rather than the Warner Brothers. Much better.”

Hudson Williams Eynon, a protester in Seattle’s Westlake Plaza, said the mask is not the only corporate product the Occupy movement is using. Smart phones, cameras and Internet service are used to organize. It is something unavoidable, he said.

“There’s a lot of inherent ironies in protesting corporations in a corporate world,” Williams Eynon said in early October.

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  • SamIamTwo
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:34am

    Pretenders…JIMHO.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:12am

      The validation of their vicious violent views of vilainous vibrant vagabonds that reside in wallstreet is only used verify their vanity in an attempt to varigate thier responsible the vegetative velocity of the financial ventures. The establish a vertict and creates a villian only serves to vindicate the verity the wall street is a verminous and vile vestibule with redeeming values. The while virion of thier virtual reality of virtue blinds them to the virulence viscosity of thier self made disaster. They are nothing more than leninist vultures who never learn the hard lesson

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    • JohnnyMidknight
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:38am

      @ smithclar3nc3 Very witty V! LOL

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    • RabidPatriot
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:07pm

      The article implies that the image of Fawkes has changed from terrorist to peaceful freedom fighter. Except that in the movie that made wearing this mask fashionable, the wearer was a terrorist and he accomplished what Fawkes failed at. These protesters like wearing these masks for the same reason the Klu Klux Klan wears there hoods. They can stay anonymous while committing shameful deeds.

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    • Truthurts
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:44pm

      This symbol for OWS is so rife with irony, they could not have picked a better one. Fawkes not only failed, he committed suicide to avoid execution. Sweet!

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    • wildbill_b
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 2:00pm

      Anyone notice the first image? The sign the guy is holding on the left says “Unided as One”. Unided? Is that like “United”? Worse yet is all the OTHER “college educated” persons around him apparently failed to notice it as well. Go figure.

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    • Unix
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 2:47pm

      Indeed, pretenders, but the plot is non-the-less the same, is it not!? Maybe, not, as this lot methinks wants communal lives…and we all know communism does not work. Useless Idiots more like it…Anarchy, it is so 1700‘s isn’t it? LOL

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 2:50pm

      They should all wear the creepy masks. The masks are perfect for these creeps.

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    • TH30PH1LUS
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:07pm

      Since WHEN does that mask symbolize “peaceful” protest? Fawkes attempted assassinate and commit mass murder with a bomb, in the movie there was also a bombing, Oakland is up for grabs, OWS people rape each other, and cry out for the overthrow of the Constitution.

      That’s “peaceful”?!

      And the Tea Party was “violent”?

      Talk about DELUSIONAL.

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    • sickofitall
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:33pm

      So let me get this straight – “Anonymous” bypasses the “Evil” corporation of Warner Bros. and gets their masks made by some of the most oppressed, abused, and underpaid workers in the world for which profits go directly to a tyrannical, dictator regime.
      Once again, all these clowns do is an oxymoron. Retarded is as retarded does!

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    • qzak491
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 4:54pm

      WILDBILL B

      That can’t be right, these are college grads looking for a job. They deserve a good job.

      One thing I don’t understand. If they are peacful why do they need a mask, what are they hiding from.

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    • KickinBack
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:25pm

      Fawkes was a coward and so are they.

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    • Formula382
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:24pm

      Wonder how tough they’d be on the other end of my AR-15? Just a thought…

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    • WeDontNeedNoSteenkinBadges03
      Posted on November 5, 2011 at 5:53am

      “There’s a lot of inherent ironies”

      Using the mask of a terrorist, claiming he was a liberator, while being terrorists … yep, irony.

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    • WordsAreImportant
      Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:51pm

      Smithclar3nc3, I liked your alliteration; however, one thing that bothered me was your use of “their.“ You spelled it ”thier” at least three times in your comment. This leads me to conclude that you believe that it is spelled this way and that it wasn’t a simple typo. For future reference, please keep in mind that all three (there, their, and they’re) start with “the,” followed by their respective ending. Anyway, power to you; keep up your use of literary devices.

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  • jalleen
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:33am

    Hopefully, the modern day Guy Fawkes of this movement are stopped before they do serious damage as happeded to the original Fawkes in 1605.

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    • JLGunner
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:46am

      we the people won’t let it get that far. Me and mine are about tired of this garbage.

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    • your sensei
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:49am

      JLGubber . . . You‘ll take it and you’l like it.

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    • Channel3
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:07am

      @YOUR CUPCAKE

      You don’t get much attention at home do you?

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    • zorro
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:35am

      They’re a very small portion of our population. It‘s gone on this far because we’ve allowed it but frankly, I think everyone is getting sick of these imbeciles.

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    • GPS-Tech
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:55am

      @your sesnei
      Quit quoting your boyfriend.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:22pm

      @CHANNEL3

      You are assuming that she has a home?

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:40pm

      Just goes to show. Osama was a freedom fighter[for his people under the thumb of western backed policies ] and in the future they’ll have masks of him too. Hope it doesn’t take 400yrs.OWS is a global movement -Osama backed the arab spting uprisings and one day when you right wing american anti semites[against muslims this time] are defeated-that will emerge as the true narrative about osama.-the liberator who launched the c of people-not regimes or military superpowers-authentically rising up against these greedy mass murdering superpowers.Already a pro muslim arab narrative is emerging by the left as OWS rejects the right wing genocidal narrative of the right.yes he was a murderer but aw shucks war is hell-as the americans say dropping bombs on men women and children with impunity-till that osama came along [and so is freedom figting against a militaristic superpower].

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    • BEYES
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:59pm

      @ZORRO
      I’m with you when it comes to getting tired of these fools, small percentage or not. But isn’t that what the muslims will tell you about the extremists that call themselves muslim? OWS may be a small percentage of the citizens in this country, but we’ve all seen the results of what just a few percent of other groups can do and still plan on doing to this day.
      I for one don’t down play the morons at these rallies for the simple fact that it only takes one bad apple to spoil the bunch. And these masked “Anonymous” V for Vendetta idiots are just those apples.

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    • Sheepdog911
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:06pm

      Oh, for these fools to meet the same end as Farkes.

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  • CountMeIn
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:31am

    I’ve read the comic of “V For Vendetta” and watched the movie despite not being particularly impressed with either one. Even in my teenage days, the story seemed like an overly simplistic and distorted view of oppression and rebellion as only a self-hating/parent-hating youth could see it. Guess I can see why, in a lot of ways, these lost souls in the OWS movement would flock to such a symbol.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:00am

      Yeah, because that kind of thing has never happened before in history, or even recent history.

      Besides Nazi Germany I mean. And the Soviet Union. And Communist China. And with Idi Amin. Oh, right, also with Ghadaffi. Or Cromwell.

      But no, too simplistic, right.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:25am

      This entire story is nothing more than demogoguery.

      It compares Timothy McVeigh to Guy Fawkes to demogogue those who wear the mask, when McVeigh blew up a Federal Building and was more than likely an INSIDE JOB perpetrated by our own government, which would make them the real terrorists. Guy Fawkes tried to blow up the Parliament, big difference from just some Federal Building. To make that comparison, you would have to have McVeigh perpetrating 9-11 with all 3 planes hitting the White House or the Capital Building.

      Hyperbole.

      They’re scared of us. Just like they were scared of Guy Fawkes.

      EXTREMISM IN DEFENSE OF LIBERTY IS NO VICE!

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    • Carolina Infidel
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:47am

      V for Vendetta is one of my favorite movies and I believe it is quite indicative of what is coming to our country. Stupid anarchists picked up the message of civil disobience and blowing things up but if you watch the movie without bias you can very easily see our world becoming the world depicted there, again.
      The movie is about people selling out their liberty for security which is exactly what this administration, and perhaps others, want. It is certainly a tactic of communists to make things so crappy and scary that you beg a strong man to take over and make you safe. Guy Fawkes mask and “legend” was just a tool of the hero V to give people something to rally behind. It has been coopted now by anarchists. Anybody pay attention to Van Jones’ Capt America logo?
      Re watch the movie without hating it first. I love the word play and the plot.
      Don’t try to do what other donkeys did and say “Bush is the Chancellor” and this is what he is doing. Look at it with todays OWS in mind and how the media provides support and cover for the regime in power. You know if Communist dems ever took full power, the koran would be banned, they would act like Christians or even have their own church, Liberation Theology, homosexuality would be banned……
      I think Idiocracy and V for Vendetta are very portentful.

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    • Carolina Infidel
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:44am

      V-Man
      Stupid comments like Oklahoma being “more than likely an inside job” is what makes some smart people look like loons. Unless of course unless you mean and American attacking Americans, because ourside of that the conspiracy is baseless. Save your proof and further hyperbole. It will only make you look more loony.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:40pm

      Carolina Infidel

      Increasingly, as you just displayed, the stupid people are the ones who believe anything this lying corrupt government says, seeing as how they’re trampling all over the Constitution and Bill of Rights based on their own false-flag handiwork. The gig is up, they’ve been caught lying too many times.

      You also have a kneejerk reation to anyone who doesn’t buy the official lie calling them “stupid” as if I’m going to sit here and argue the facts with you, some anonymous nobody. I don’t care what you say. The truth is the truth and it always wins. An overwhelming percentage of Americans want a new investigation into 9-11.

      So save your ad-hominem attacks because it makes you look like you‘re having a kneejerk reaction to anyone who doesn’t buy the official lie this lying government and media full of liars has pumped into your brain.

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    • Carolina Infidel
      Posted on November 5, 2011 at 6:41am

      V-Man,
      I wasn’t calling you stupid. I was calling your comment stupid.

      Just like the next one you made.
      “The truth is the truth and it always wins. An overwhelming percentage of Americans want a new investigation into 9-11.”

      You see, you started with a valid statement and followed up with something stupid.

      It‘s hard being a good American who wants liberty and Justice for all and to see our government shrunk back down to it’s rightful size so as to protect the rights we still have and regain what we used to for future generations when every time you stand against tyranny there is some wackadoo next to you in a tin foil hat holding a sign that says “Investigate 911” or “Oklahoma was an inside job” or “My grandmother was abducted by aliens and forced to kill Kennedy”.

      I don’t care what the federal government says. I don‘t trust them at all and I certainly DON’T TRUST THEM TO INVESTIGATE THEMSELVES OR ANYONE WHO WOULD ACTUALLY TRY TO INVESTIGATE THEM. So keep up the good fight and I hope some day you find out who is responsible for the OK bombings, 911, Kennedy, and whatever else keeps you awake at night.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on November 5, 2011 at 8:57am

      Anything that challenges what your gullible self holds as truth, you call crazy, stupid, and other names, making your retorts childish and petulant.

      That’s your personal problem. Don’t like what I say, then don’t read it or waste your time responding. You aren’t convincing anyone to follow your logic, you’re showing everyone how programmed you are by BS from the mainstream media, you aren’t even witty.

      Americans want a new investigation into 9-11. Catch up. You can assert that the sky is stupid, and it just makes you look stupid.

      I know it‘s hard being conned and having to defend yourself against people who aren’t brainwashed. It’s ok, you’ll get over it. Our government lies too much, and everyone knows it. You‘ve been lied to and you can’t accept it and move on and let others have their opinions.

      No, you must attack anyone who can think for themselves because you have been so fantastically conned. I don’t lose any sleep over who perpetrates false-flag terror against it’s own citizens. I already know who does it, the Federal Government.

      YOU are the one who has a problem reconciling that because you’ve been conned. It’s called cognitive dissonance. You attack me for not buying the official story, then in the same breath say you don’t trust the Federal Government.

      How stupid is THAT…

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    • uzi4u2
      Posted on November 6, 2011 at 11:54am

      Still, In the movie, the title “hero” is screwing with the government, not because it is fasist and cruel, which it is. He is using that fro a cover for the personal pain and suffering it has caused HIM. I resorts to tortue to win an ally in the girl, he uses the crowds at the end of the movie to deflect the government from him and to shield him in their numbers. So just what is heroic?
      If these people REALLY believe in what they are doing why are they hiding behind a mask? Why use a mask to symbolize their “struggle”? Is their arguments for the change they want so weak?

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  • Popp40
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:10am

    Okay these people remind me of terrorists…..they say they are so proud of what they are doing and they want to be known…yet they cover their face to hide their identity…..if you are so proud show your face and let us know who you really are. After all if you truly believe in your movement then you shouldn’t have any reason not to hide your face!

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    • barber2
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:33am

      The mask is their current Gang Sign !

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    • irritated1
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:49am

      We already know they’re not there for the stated purpose. I think you’re right, the mask covers the faces of people who know or are not sure what they are doing is right. Of course, you always have the people that wear the mask because everyone else is. Those are the dangerous ones!

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    • Channel3
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:49am

      Let them wear their ridiculous masks.

      It makes it much easier to pick them out and pick them off.

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    • 100 Million Patriots Standing
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:14am

      Stupid questions for OWS protestors;

      - what mask did Guy Fawkes wear?

      - A protestor made the statement that“Guy Fawkes represents the fact that the people have the real power.” Is that what the United States Constitution does…ensuring the freedom of America’s citizens? Do you support the Constitution or should it be replaced?

      -why didn’t you do this last year?

      -How much money do you have in your pocket? $10? shouldn’t the government take 5 of it to pass out to others?

      -exactly what capitalist things would you ban? cell phones, laptops, tents, beer, tattoo businesses, fast food, soft drinks, jeans. ?

      -if I agreed to have a more open attitude and really really listen to your concerns, would you agree to live in North Korea for a year so you can understand mine.?

      -Why do you like rich people…..like movie stars and politicians and other rich people that mockingly say they support you….do any of them stay here with you?

      -If a large crowd of protestors insisted that America become a Communist country….is that OK with you?

      -If a large crowd of protestors insisted that America become a Dictatorship – is that OK with you?

      -If a large crowd of protestors insisted that America follow Sharia Law and that we all become Muslims….Is that OK with you?

      -Why is mob rule better than a representative republic?

      -If someone broke into your home and held your family hostage while threatening to destroy your life as you have known it..

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  • Johann
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:09am

    Guy Fawkes was the leader of the Catholic English who allegedly tried to blow up parliament in order to restore the monarchy to the Catholic Stuart family. The Catholic king Charles I had been beheaded by the Puritan army of Oliver Cromwell, a military dictator, who ruled England for twelve years. When he died the English restored the Stuart kings to their rightful place. Many historians believe that the so called gun powder plot was a set up by Cromwell in order to justify his massacre of Catholics. It is believed that Guy Fawkes was the fall guy who was set up just like many Americans are being set up by Obamas FBI with bogus accusations of treason based entirely on the word of a government spy. Ironically Guy Fawkes represented the traditional English Catholic culture and not the revolutionary Protestant culture of Cromwell and his Puritans. The Puritans came to America and were the founders of the Ivy League universities; i.e. Harvard, Yale etc. Hence the deep rooted anti Catholic and anti traditional culture of America’s educated elite. Guy Fawkes was not a revolutionary but rather a traditionalist. However the unwashed American college graduates in the OWS movement have never been taught real history only newspaper blurbs.

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    • barber2
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:37am

      What the devil are they teaching in our universities to day ? Talk about a subject that needs some serious “investigation .” Must be a huge amount of anti-capitalism being indoctrinated there.

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    • Jack of Hearts
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:39am

      Where to begin on this catalogue of ignorance. Let’s just say that Charles was executed in 1649, the Gunpowder plot was 44 years BEFORE Cromwell became Lord Protector and Blaze ignorance is yet again on vivid display. I despair.

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    • cece959
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:53am

      Guy Fawkes was, indeed, dead decades before Charles I was executed. The Gunpowder Plot occurred in 1605. Charles I became king in 1625 and was beheaded in 1649. Neither man had anything to do with the other.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:22am

      Thank you Jack! Johann is right, though, that if Fawkes and his cohorts had succeeded in killing James I and putting a Catholic on the throne in 1605, it would hardly have been a blow for English liberties! It was almost a century after that before parliamentary supremacy and a Protestant succession were assured with the overthrow of James II.

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    • Phantom II
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:05am

      Johann. Talk about rewriting history from a Catholic point of view. You conveniently leave out the role of Elizabeth I who lived at the same time as Guido Fawkes. She killed her Catholic sister and other Catholics. Without her, there would not be the USA as we know it. She became the Virgin Queen to replace Mary and ran England like a business. Our institutions and industrial contracts began with her. Our founders were of protestant decent. Had they been Catholic, we would have ended up like all Catholic countries, ignorant and poor. Our Catholic population growth is in direct proportion to our decline. Beck is a Catholic and does not understand American history because of it. Catholics were kept out of the main stream for good reason. England and Europe had trouble with Catholics since the Romans who invented it to unite their empire. It is made of Greek mythology, Paganism and a sect of Judaism. Elizabeth became the head of the Church of England and George Washington began the Episcopal church in America for the same reason, to curtail influence of a foreign powers to form their sovereign nations. In China, where I have a home, Catholics are not permitted to recognize the pope. World governments and their tools never work. Nationalism prevails. A united Europe and a united world is against human nature. Beck always brings to our attention that history repeats if we don’t learn from it. How much longer do you think Germany will support the Catholic countries of Europe?

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    • Jack of Hearts
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:00am

      @Phantom II
      Sorry to be picky but “she killed her Catholic sister”?? You’re confusing Mary – who preceded her (and died naturally thus allowing Elizabeth to succeed) – with Mary Queen of Scots who was a cousin. Her execution for plotting against Elizabeth was hardly “murder”.
      “Elizabeth became the head of the Church of England” – yes but it was her father Henry VIII who made the break with Rome and established the Church in England.
      Do they not teach history any more in schools? OK, I’ll shut up now.

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    • Free2speakRN
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:30am

      These lost souls want it to be on November 5th because it is ‘Guy Fawkes Day’. Nov. 5th 1605. He was one of thirteen Catholics involved in the ‘Gunpowder Plot’ to blow up the house of Parliment, aimed to kill all of Parliment as well as King James.
      Bloody Mary, a Catholic, was burning Protestants for 5 years, 1553-1558. Elizibeth 1st got in and started and continued to burn Catholics until 1603. King James, (son of Mary, Queen of Scotts, who litterally lost her head under the order of cousin Elizabeth), came into power. James was born Catholic, but was raised Protestant. All, Protestant and Catholic alike, agreed James to be the rightful blood heir of the whole Island. His crowning created ‘Great Britain’. Catholics hoped it would stop the persecutions. He didn’t.
      For nine months, Guy and 12 others, secretly placed barrels of gunpowder topped with scraps of metal in Parliment’s basement. Fawkes drew the lot to set the fuse. One of the group had a wife, who convinced her husband to warn her brother not to be there. The brother got the note to the king, the wife’s huband was tortured, and Guy Fawkes was stopped. All 13 were executed. The expression, ‘the guy’ is coming to fix this or do that, is from ‘Guy’ Fawkes.
      It’s celebrated in England every Nov. 5th. Holding a dummy of Fawkes, “Penny for the guy”, kids yell to adults. At night there is a bonfire of the dummies.
      Thus, the Guy Fawkes masks on some protesters. Non-violent?

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:53pm

      When you blow up a building it’s called terrorism.One mans’s terrorist is anothers freedom fighter. Osama too was a freedom fighter. You americans expose your thin skinned hypocrisy with every breadth you take.A traditionalist catholic terrorist is still a terrorist.osama was a political freedom fighter.[religion was not the issue but our unjust meddling which harmed indigenous people who happen to be muslim].One day you’ll get it .OWS will educate you when your right wing media collapses.They’re pretty nervous about this already-hence they are treading softly on these revolutionaries in the streets.

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    • Lord_Frostwind
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 4:21pm

      Rose:

      You and the Liberals have fallen so victim for your hatred of us that you cannot see the dragons waiting to swallow you up. You have betrayed us and run into the arms of the people who literally stand for everything that you do not. Oh sure you can agree on “America sucks” but tell me, what do you think these beasts will do to you once we are gone? I’ll give you a hint, look at what they do to their own and multiply it.

      Osama was no freedom fighter, he found an easy scapegoat in the United States and used it justify his own hatred of why his kind didn’t rule the world, all he wanted was power. The OWS movement is just as foolish, they scapegoat all the problems of society onto simple targets, the rich, the ones that everyone envies, and then go prancing about demanding that they receive something that they have not earned nor do they deserve. All they want is someone else’s money.

      In a way I pity them, they will rush blindly into their own destruction, whether by completely destroying the economy through their incompetence, or by ending up the victims of the first purges. A terrorist will always be a terrorist, a killer is still a killer, and a traitor is always a traitor. Remember that when you consider siding with the monsters against your own countrymen.

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 6:23pm

      Just when I think Rose-Ellen cannot possibly top herself in ludicrous verbiage, she actually praises Bin-Laden. I am at loss for words.

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  • Miyegombo Bayartsogt
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:09am

    And people who dress in the pointy white sheeted uniform of the Klu Klux Klan are just concerned about civil rights. The debate over the Wall Street Occupation movement need not get scurrilous and mean-spirited. Casual observers shouldn’t say they see nothing but well-fed paranoid conditions and unwashed anxiety marching together downtown with “black dog depression” and mumbling to anyone with a recording device about a sense of vague discontent bubbling up from inner emptiness. It almost seems as if suddenly, substance-fueled acts of self-aggrandizement have been translated into unending, impoverished public protests put on by pawns propagating faith in George Soros. It’s so surreal watching these personal politics publicly expressed as hysterical comedy. Like rogue beavers looking for trees in New York City, these oppressed citizens increasingly militate in the vain hope they will see some change coming their way. Clearly, capitalism is come to be the only true path to spiritual transcendence.

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    • barber2
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:32am

      Huh ?

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    • cece959
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:00am

      What?

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    • Luke21
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:27am

      Interesting insight. What the puppets & “useful” idiots will ultimately produce is a gov response – likely in the form of simple curfews or worse (e.g. marshall law). This because they don’t know who their real oppressor is. They protest “capitalism” – which they do not understand (like the protester selling masks – did they protest him?) and which we no longer have as a result of the govt – corporate superstructure (e.g. GE). What they bring upon themselves (& the 99% they DON’T represent) is exactly what the super structure wants and is far worse than anything they can imagine in their “substance-fueled” state & anything they presently protest. Because their “god” is materialism (why else take what belongs to another in the name of “justice”) & self-gratification, they’ve become like the god they worship & their end will follow. Their chosen path to enlightenment is to embrace national socialism (whether they know it or not). & if the 99% aren’t careful we will fall in the same trap (by insisting that someone crack down hard on the anarchy – regardless of the freedoms we have to surrender to do so).

      If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat. 2Thes 3:10
      The way of a fool is right in his own eyes.. (Prov 12:15)
      Every way of a man is right in his own eyes, But the LORD weighs the hearts. (Prov 21:2)
      For in those days there will be tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the creation which God created until this time, nor ever shal

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    • barber2
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:45am

      LUKE: You understood this guy? Amazing…Are you ok?

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    • YoungConservativesRule
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:12pm

      Not to be a d**che but it’s spelled martial law. Just for clarification.

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  • irritated1
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:06am

    Why would you have to conceal your idenity? Hmmm…

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    • Eyes_of_Deception
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:09am

      Because they are COWARDS!!!

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:14am

      The mask allows cowards to do bad things that they would otherwise be held accountable for. It speaks volumes to the character of the person behind the mask.

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    • barber2
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:29am

      Maybe because they have NO real identity ! They are just clueless kids who have joined a gang ! A gang called The Occupiers!

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    • lillymckim
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:30am

      Agreed! They are lazy, cowards waiting for what you worked for … to be handed over to them!

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    • irritated1
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:30am

      Yes… Yes they are. The words uninformed and pawn also come to mind. They’re all like plastic forks and knives…When they have served their purpose, they’ll be thrown away. Don’t you love our education system…It has performed such a great service to our children. There are some great teachers out there, but the system keeps them in line.

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    • irritated1
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:41am

      Behindblue…I like your logo! That’s a slap in the face of the socialist agenda.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:37am

      I don‘t think the masks are meant to conceal the wearers’ identities. It’s not as if many of them have jobs they might get fired from. As the story suggests, it’s a silly fad based on a silly movie based on a silly graphic novel. Those who wear the masks are reinforcing their solidarity with one another, as well as making a statement to the effect that “Things cannot go on as they are!”

      Guy Fawkes masks are kind of uncomfortable and awkward to do anything in except stand around having your picture taken. The tiny minority among the protesters who are inclined to break windows and set things on fire will not be wearing Guy Fawkes masks, they will be wearing gas masks or wrapping damp cloths around their faces.

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    • irritated1
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:19am

      LLoyd,
      Good point about the gas masks.

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    • Lizrad
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 1:48pm

      The morons conceal their identity because they are embarrassed that they cannot spell!
      “People shouldn’t be afraid of thier Government….”
      Illiterate dumba$$es…..this is what the colleges in this country are putting out? I’m gonna invent a poster board with a spell checker on it….I’ll be rich!

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 5:42pm

      @irritated1
      I took that picture in Amsterdam. They’re not the brightest bulbs in the circuit over there.

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    • uzi4u2
      Posted on November 6, 2011 at 12:19pm

      It allows cowards to do bad things, just like the KKK.

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  • reality based lifeform
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:05am

    “Who was that masked man? “ ” I don’t know but he left this brown stool on the ground ! “

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    • biohazard23
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:28am

      No, he didn’t leave his brown stool on the ground. It just fell off the cop car, that’s all.

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  • TEARS FOR AMERICA
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:05am

    Why don’t they wear the favorite masks of Chavez, Castro, Pol Pot, Khmer Rouge…killers all…these young ones have no idea what they are espousing…ignorance buries us…

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    • JLGunner
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:45am

      Thats the absolute truth,let one of them become a victom of a cowardice murderer and then see how “radical” that would be.

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  • mcmeador
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:04am

    I think it’s funny that these anti-capitalists are practicing capitalism by buying masks in bulk and then selling them to other anti-capitalists.

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    • barber2
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:19am

      Ha. Shows how totally clueless these kids are. They do not even know what “capitalism” means ! To them it is just a vocabulary word some Far Lefty professor had them parrot for an anti-America/ anti-capitaalism essay so they could earn an “A” ( do they still give grades in our non-compettive universities ? ) in his Far Lefty class.

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    • calnaughtonjr
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:34am

      And they are buying them from China!

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:47am

      Anyone who pays the slightest attention to what the vast majority of the protesters are saying knows they aren’t against capitalism as such but against its abuses.

      They have realized that the dream of a totally unregulated free market system is as utopian as the dream of a perfect socialist society.

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    • barber2
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:38am

      LLOYD: I appreciate the naive idealism of you and the protestors BUT there is about as much chance of ending GREED as there is ending evil or stopping death. It is an impossible, impractical goal.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:10am

      Barber2: There is absolutely NO chance of ending greed. It is a fact of the human condition. However, there is the possibility of controlling it, mitigating it, and channelling it so as to make it more productive than destructive. Sort of like electricity or nuclear fission.

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  • jmcenanly
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:03am

    I can’t help but think of another movie character with similar attributes. Like V, he wore a mask, a cloak, and black body armor. Like V, he fought to overthrow what he thought was a corrupt system. And like V, he also carried a torch for Natalie Portman. I am referring, of course, to Darth Vader. Anarchic revolutions inevitably lead to tyranny

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:58am

      The hero in V for Vendetta was just and right in his fight. If you lived in a fully fascist nation that performed medical experiments on unwilling people, that had a government that was responsible for unleashing a plague that killed hundreds of thousands of people, that had a raving theorcratic lunatic who ran star chambers and ordered assassinations, and that had a policy of allowing government thugs to roam, intimidate, murder and rape at will, wouldn’t you fight back?

      Good gravy. This is the typical knee jerk thing both “sides” do. If one side uses something, the other side automatically is against whatever is being used.

      Think people, please.

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  • irritated1
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:54am

    “People hide behind the masks, put the masks on and their identity is hidden. Therefore they can do a lot more than they would if they didn’t have the masks,”How about a big Acorn hat…Or a Stalin mask. This guy sold 100 masks @ 5 bucks apiece…Sounds like he’s enjoying capitalism. Did he pay his “fair share”? What would the tax be on that in N.Y.C?

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    • poorrichard09
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:23am

      Yeah, and does he have a vendors permit that you buy from the city?

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  • wheeler44
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:53am

    This is not spontaneous as clueless Nancy claims.These people revel in mayhem for mayhems sake. To them it’s something to do. Some are devotees traveling from city to city following protests.
    They are all puppets of the people behind the curtain who are pushing their socialist big government cause.The people wanting to voice legitimate concerns have been taken over by the professional protester and his violence that he hides in annonymtity.

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  • Eyes_of_Deception
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:52am

    Wear a mask of Bin Laden and you are praised…Wear a mask of Fawke and you are protesting…Wear a mask of Jesus and you are sued…Wear a mask of Mohammed and you are killed!

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    • your sensei
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:52am

      Wer a mask of a black man and you’re beaten, tied to a pickup truck and dragged to your death.

      http://www.racematters.org/nytarchjb161.htm

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    • Channel3
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:16am

      @ YOUR CUPCAKE

      The word you are looking for is “Wear” not “Wer”.

      Just starving for attention aren’t you?

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    • Eyes_of_Deception
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:25am

      How dare you talk about our Commander like that!

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:18pm

      He was a freedom fighter who supported the people rising up against dictators[many american backed] he oppossed saddam husein when we supported saddam hussein in his war with iran where millions died. You can hide behind dictators -and call osama a terrorist but you are complict in terrorism too.hypocrites. and your wars of aggression in ira[vietnam etc. were terrorist wars too.As yoiu targeted cities,villages and towns where civilians were living!You were fighting the people of the countries you were in -not merely their military!That’s called terrorism.

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    • YoungConservativesRule
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:21pm

      @your cupcake

      Uh-oh we got a troll here! Comin’ in hot!

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  • Secessionista
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:51am

    I like the masks. In an age of government video cameras on every street corner, watching our every move, the mask conceals our identities and thwarts the government’s demand to know all and see all, to be omnipotent. Omnipotent is not what our government is supposed to be, it is supposed to be small and unobtrusive. And while I am not for the OWS folks, I understand the source of their frustration (too bad they themselves don’t, or else they would merely call themselves tea partiers and come join our peaceful getherings. We could use some drummers, and a few more flutes, lol).

    Notice how NYC started enforcing the “no masked protester” rule? They need their video cameras to work, and the masks prevent that. That is the one thing they will arrest you for. That, and blocking traffic. But sure, you can poop on a police car or pee in someone’s doorway, no problemo.

    So, yeah, I think the next big tea party should have some guy fawlkes masks. It’s OK to borrow the good parts. Being anonymous scares the bejeebers out of the politicians. Waves of anonymous people make them cower in fear.

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    • investlite
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:10am

      I don’t want to be anonymous. I want the devil to see the whites of my eyes when I denounce him. I don’t need to hide. Nor should you.

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    • Capitalist Mama
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:14am

      Thankfully none of the signers of the Independence wanted to remain anonymous. I would rather declare my name and make a stand for what I believe.

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    • barber2
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:21am

      Have noticed a huge lack of courage but a large amount of bullying in our Occupiers. Same as in Europe where this virus originated..

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    • barber2
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:25am

      SECE: More trolling..what’s with you guys of late ? So many trolls…( pssst: Guy Fawkes and the Tea Party do not mix, dude )

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:04am

      @Mama

      Actually that’s not entirely accurate. The Founders held a lot of secret meetings in the years leading up to the Revolution, hiding out in bars even (The Green Dragon comes to mind), and staying on the lowdown. And there’s nothing wrong with that, it‘s kind of silly to announce to the troops you’re plotting to overthrow “Hey, we’re not even close to being ready to take you down, but we’re planning on it! Here we are, suckers!”.

      It was only when they were ready to commit the acts of the Revolution that they came out into the open. Also, recall, that the Boston Tea Party had the patriots dressed as Indians to conceal their true identity.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:51am

    If these “useful idiots” were really about successful change, then they should do as those who gave their all for the civil rights movement like MLK and so many others, who put everything on the line for peaceful change via non violent demonstrations…they went w/o masks on, visible, and united; not hiding behind a single mask symbolic of anarchy, discord, death, assassination, and the collective of the unknown masses like under Stalinism and Marxism.

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    • BrandyWilson
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:04am

      Glen Beck Staff: Guy Fawkes was a Jesuit coadjutor…whose primary goal was to STOP the production of what was to become the King James Bible!…destroying Parliament was secondary to the Jesuit prime directive!

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 1:03pm

      That civil rights for blacks prevailed is because there were always just enough people in positions of power and influence who believed in it.[media, courts, legislatures ,journalists ,clergy etc]. This enlightened 21stc uprising against puritanical right wing if- you’re rich you must be good-pull yourselves up by your own bootstraps hypercapitalist culture is standard americanism. Not easy to get people in power here to go along with an enlightened european style socialist entitlement culture.Hence comparisons with civil rights struggle is not applicable.

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  • barber2
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:50am

    The Occupiers are many things. Mostly the result of a poor upbringing which did not teach them rules, limits, boundaries or responsibility. ( a poor upbringing both at home and in our undisciplined public school systems ) They are like the child who throws himself on the floor in the supermarket because he wants something that even he, himself, isn’t sure of. They do not have the discipline to use the tools of a free society to seek change through influence and voting. They prefer bullying, “occupying,” destroying property , shutting down businesses, and intimidating other citizens with graffiti, car-slapping, drumming and obstructing traffic. And now, folks, we will see if the mayors, the police chiefs, the governors and, indeed, our politicians have the courage to teach these little spoiled anarchists what their clueless, overly permissive, immature parents never did – how to act maturely in a civilized society.

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  • The Catbird
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:48am

    My Aunt Fannie!! These walking stool samples are wearing the mask because if mummy or daddy saw their pasty mugs on TV, their allowances and gas money would be cut off.

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  • investlite
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:47am

    “It’s about being anonymous”

    That says more than they think. (though, they don’t do much thinking, just wanting.)
    What is the point of being anonymous? To protect your identity from the consequences of your actions. This enables them to do things that they know are wrong or evil and get away with it.
    Who wears masks? did abraham lincoln wear a mask? did MLK wear a mask? does the pope wear a mask? Did jesus wear a mask?
    OR
    Did the kkk wear masks? Do burglars and kidnappers wear masks? You can see where I am going with this. now.

    Historically, people doing good things don’t wear masks, people doing bad things do.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:08am

      So the Boston Tea Party was filled with bad people then?

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    • YoungConservativesRule
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:19pm

      @Ghost of Jefferson

      … hahaha are you seriously trying to tell us that the colonists at the Boston Tea Party were trying to conceal their identities by dressing up as Indians? Everyone knew who they were…

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  • Escapee1
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:42am

    The mask allows these deadbeats to be exactly what they are…COWARDS who want to act like they have standards and ideals, when in fact they’re nothing but WHINERS who hold their hands out and demand that we “GIVE them MORE of what they’re ENTITLED to”….Got news for them. They’re about to get a RUDE awakening when WE THE PEOPLE go to the polls in 2012 and elect people who actually want SMALLER Federal government and to ELIMINATE a lot of these “gimme” programs…They’ll actually have to WORK harder, SAVE more and SPEND less…In other words, grow up and be adults…

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:32am

    Guy Fox was a religious terrorist, like a latter day Osama Bin Laden. Both were executed by the government they were trying to bring down. Is that who you idolize kiddies, a Catholic jihadist? Oh you thought he was a comic book hero? Very mature of you.

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    • yougottabekidding
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:47am

      Cowards everyone of them!
      The only reason to hide your identity is so you can do damage and not be identified. Anyone wearing a mask or any other covering over their face should be arrested or shoot during any type of violence perpetrated on the police or the public.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:49am

      It’s easy to call him a Catholic jihadist, but the English crown at the time, and Parliament, were openly hostile and prosecuting Catholics, as well as destroying their churches (or defacing them to the point of uselessness). There are still signs of major destruction on some of their ancient churches in England, seen it myself. If such a thing were to occur today with Christianity as a whole, let’s say the OWS “win” and religion is outlawed, you’d see rank and file Christians doing the same thing, and frankly, rightly so.

      Because OWS chose this mask, incorrectly I might add but hey they really don’t know a lot about anything, doesn’t mean that suddenly we all have to recoil at Guy Fawkes. He’s always seemed to me to be more of a patsy of the actual architects than anything else (the goofy guy you send out to do the dirty work while you remain behind sipping wine).

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    • barber2
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:57am

      GHOST: I do not care what one’s “cause” is, violence is totally unacceptable. Guy couldn’t have been a very good Catholic if he chose that route. I do not remember any scriptural references to Christ advising the use of explosives and violence !

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:03am

      @Barber

      Clearly then you condemn the Founding Fathers.

      I, on the other hand, do not.

      When people in your church are being dragged out of their houses and thrown in jail, or worse, and you feel that violence is wrong and let your kids go to the torture dungeons of London, well then sir, I personally find that reprehensible.

      You’re correct about Christians and peace. Thing is, not a single Christian sect around today, except perhaps the Amish, are actually pacifists. The rest of y’all cheer the bombing of whatever group you feel is a threat, consistently and without hesitation. Point the finger outward and the rest are pointing back at you I’m afraid.

      But no, sir, violence is not always wrong. If I felt that way, I would not conceal carry nor would I have served in the military during the Cold War. And surely I would stand up and fight a government that would torture and murder you because you’re a Christian, even if you wouldn’t.

      Slainte

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    • barber2
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:13am

      GHOST : There is a big difference between defending your human rights/ life and wanton violence. Think the Occupiers are missing that point. You know, there is a difference between expressing an idea and marking a building with graffiti.

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    • zorro
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:46am

      It‘s too bad we’re not at a pub somewhere. I’d love to buy you both a beer and continue to listen to this discussion.

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  • topperj
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:30am

    We can thanks the OWS movement for one thing. It proves, once and for all to see, that college is a complete waste of time and thousands of dollars for many. These are the most uneducated, ignorant peolple I have ever seen. Well, at least since watching thepeople at the Democrat Party National Convention.

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    • saranda
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:28am

      You just keep telling that to your decendants and keep them all out of university. Who in their right mind would want to celebrate doctors, engineers, accountants, etc? Please keep your kids out of any kind of schooling and my kids will gladly employ them as laborers and cleaning staff.

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    • barber2
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 4:27pm

      SARANDON; You sound a bit of a snob. Hope you are not an “elitist” because that means that your kids are probably Occupying one of the Cult Camp-In, will probably never hold down a decent job, and will therefore never be hiring anyone.

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  • lukerw
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:17am

    They should be wearing… Mao or Lenin… masks!

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  • Constructionist
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:14am

    Only in America would people protest in the streets demanding jobs while wearing Chinese versions of American-made masks in order not to ‘line the pockets’ of American businesses. ******* logic strikes again.

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    • patriotteapress
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:23am

      Pretty much like everything that these OWS clowns do and say. They are clueless, spoiled brats that are simply takers. They don’t care were it comes from as long as they get what “they” want and don’t have to work for it.

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    • Tired-of-fools
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:31am

      I guess they don’t understand that if they buy American masks, Americans work. I thought they were protesting for jobs? IDIOTS. Is this what this country coming to? Are these “people” the future leaders of the country whether in business or politics? I say no, these protestors will just become dependent on the system to house them and to pay their bills. Leeches, that’s all.

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    • barber2
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:08am

      The Occupiers: “We hate corporations. But .. We want jobs. We hate greed. But…we want some of your stuff. We hate capitalism. But… we want free health care. We hate rules and laws . But …we want the government to protect us. We believe in individual rights. But..we hide behind masks. We believe we should be able to camp out at tax payers’ expense forever. But..we hate the “rich” who pay their taxes. We want a university education. But..we don’t want to pay for it. We want lots of attention. But..we hide behind masks. Waaah…. We are totally lost. But…we don’t understand that.

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    • Capitalist Mama
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:17am

      Although your comment is spot on, the truth is OWS *don’t* want jobs. They want money. Your money, my money, or gov’t money. Notice how they all react when offered jobs. I myself was told that was “highly offensive.”

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:09pm

      BARBER2…don’t forget…they were very upset when their $5000.00 laptops were being stolen too. You know life’s tough when you can afford $5000 laptops while demanding your student loans be paid for by someone else.

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  • loriann12
    Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:07am

    Sorry, didn’t read the whole article, got to the part in the beginning about how it’s about being anonymous. Yep, they don‘t want mom and dad to see their faces and know they’re skipping out on college classes to be at OWS. I went to college (a year and a semester)…those prof‘s don’t care if you make class or not, as long as you do the work and take the tests.

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    • YoungBloodNews
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:33am

      These men-children need to grow up and stop playing with masks.Halloween was days ago…

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    • barber2
      Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:52am

      Makes a tax payer want to completely DEFUND American public education if these little anarchists are its end product.

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