Herman Cain: I Prefer ‘Black American’
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Top Republican presidential contender Herman Cain said Sunday the 2012 race is “absolutely not” a factor in the 2012 campaign, and that the support he has is based on voters liking his ideas, not his skin color.
Appearing on NBC’s “Meet the Press,“ Cain reiterated the fact that he prefers the term ”black American“ to ”African American.” Cain’s race has been the target of prominent black leaders and other commentators, some attacking him for not being “authentically” black due to his conservative politics.
“My roots go back through slavery in this country. Yes, they came from Africa. But the roots of my heritage are in the United States of America. So I consider myself a black American,” Cain said.
Pressed by host David Gregory about an analysis of his signature “9-9-9″ tax plan, Cain the proposal would cost some people more, but that it would eliminate other “invisible taxes” that hike up the price of goods.
“Some people will pay more, but most people will pay less, that’s my argument,” Cain said.
The people who will pay more, Cain said, are those who buy more new goods. The national sales tax would apply only to new goods, not used goods, benefiting poorer people, he said.
Questioned about what has shaped his foreign views, Cain said he’s read the writings of Amb. John Bolton, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and K.T. McFarland. Asked whether he would describe himself as a “neoconservative,” the foreign policy philosophy embraced particularly by former President George W. Bush, Cain did not appear to know what Gregory was asking about.
“I’m not sure by what you mean by a neoconservative. I am a conservative, yes. Neoconservative — labels, sometimes, will put you in a box. I’m very conservative,” Cain said.
Gregory pressed, “But you’re familiar with the neoconservative movement?”
“I’m not familiar with the neoconservative movement,” Cain said. “I’m familiar with the conservative movement. And let me define what I mean by the conservative movement: less government, less taxes, more individual responsibility.”
Cain also said a comment he made Saturday on the campaign trail that the U.S. should secure its border with Mexico by building a 20-foot, barbed-wire, electrified fence with English and Spanish signs saying “it will kill you” was “a joke.”
“That’s not a serious plan,” he said. He added that solving the problem of illegal immigration will require a combination of a physical barrier, better technology, U.S. troops, and more freedom for states to “do what the federal government can’t do.”
Cain delighted supporters at a rally Saturday when the generator powering his sound system failed, and the longtime gospel singer launched into an impromptu rendition of “Impossible Dream.”
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Drakkhanlord
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:18pmHow would People Pay more if it is Just 9-9-9…fargin Vat tax…?
Cain got some explaining to do about being director of the Fed , and not wanting audits…
Report Post »Edct
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:32pmI like this guy more and more. At first I really was not sure America was ready for another black after the muslim imposter terrorist somehow occupied OUR White House. Well, those of us that have an IQ over 100 do know, the money for his campaign came from the middle east, the same money that put him through law school, but he and his wife neither one can practice due to licenses suspended or revoked for ethics violations (and idiots really voted for this fool). I am really glad Cain likes black American because we Americans are Americans, not English Americans, not African, not Mexican, not Korean American. If you are not an American, period, do us a favor and get the hell back to your other country which you insultingly place before OUR country.
Report Post »j4diceusmc
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:45pmMr Cain has responded to his opinion of and exactly what he did at the FED. He wants to get Congress to limit there function back to what it use to be.. very limited and stop allowing them to print money and protect our dollar from being undervalued. Second He NEVER said he was against the FED being audited.. That is a lie put out there by Paul supporters. He is on video stating that the FED should disclose there role in the 2008 mess and any other records that will shed light on IF any criminal charges should be made. IE Freedy Mack and Fanny Mae.. etc. My key phrase this year has become educate your self.. I am no college idiot, but I can read and do my own research. We need to vent these candidates just in case Obama does allow an election to occure in 2012..
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:49pm@EDCT. You said that so well but I want to add, I also agree, if we live in America, we ARE Americans.
Report Post »I‘d look like a fool if I went around and told everyone I’m Irish, Scots, English, German, heinz 57 and Cherokee-American. Dam, I‘m American and that’s that.
Herman is smart, has a wonderful, diverse background, loves our God and Country, and probably most of all doesn‘t need a teleprompter to tell him what to say with someone else’s words rather than his own. He say’s what he means and means what he says. How comforting to see a president who can speak with is own voice and own words. (instead of a marxix, muslim, commie speech writers.)
Drakkhanlord
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:58pmi like him as well , Just want Facts …and yes he did say that the fed did not need to be audited …
you tube…/watch?v=uiAkeFJXwUk …the Fed has not changed since was created .
btw , we can audit the fed and take care of other problems at the same time….
Report Post »LibertarianForLife
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 1:02pmCain’s position regaurding the federal reserve is so naive, it disqualifies him IMMEDIATELY. Same goes for foreign policy.
Report Post »mils
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 1:08pmAt first I thought he was just another BPOS…
He has come up several notches in voting opinion.
He is not afraid to answer questions…he’s not the career politician that the others are.
HOWEVER, the establishment has decided it’s romney…so it will be. Another HUGE MISTAKE. MR. MILQUETOAST GOTTA PLEASE EM ALL MITT..
Viper1
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 1:17pmThere has been a group of Americans that have had no skin in the game, but they have had the loudest mouths in the tax game. My wife and I are both disabled and yes we will have to start paying some sort of tax. I do not mind at all as long as the group of idiots in New York and around the United States protesting for something they demand be given to them will have to pay their fair share. If we all pay 9% this is perfectly fair. Lets say I make $1000 per month that means I will pay $90 dollars in taxes. That is fair. Now lets say Warren Buffet earns $1,000,000,000 his tax would be $900,000 per month that is fair, but OH, I‘m sorry he hasn’t paid any taxes since 2001. I refuse to pay one red cent until he pays his back taxes and GE be forced to pay their back taxes. I don’t support those idiots on Wall Street, but the law I do support!
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 1:19pmHerman Cain “prefers” “Black American”. Ok.
That’s fine with me, this is America, you can call yourself whatever you want. I prefer Black, African American, Black American, whatever tickles my fancy at the time.
A Federal Reserve insider like you, Herman, who has the hubris to assume you can “fix” the Private Federal Reserve Fractional Banking system whom you worked for, has no place trying to play the race violin. You’re disqualified from MY vote for having associations with the Federal Reserve and having the audacity to endorse Alan Greenspan, that Federal Reserve vampire. You’re also an opportunistic panderer who tried to draw bigots against Muslims towards you.
Ron Paul 2012.
FTW
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 1:26pmI like “American”.
I do not care what color you skin is.
It is generally not an issue, until people start thinking ther are owed something because of the color of their skin.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 1:30pmCAIN is Da MAN for POTUS….New blood that is not tainted by RINOS CAIN 2012!!!!
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 1:41pmAfter watching Obama today at the MLK memorial dedication, I am even more convinced that Herman Cain is the right man for the GOP nomination and the Country at large. BHO tried to co-opt MLK ‘s struggle for racially equality with his own programs of wealth re-distribution. BHO even mentioned the protesters on Wall street and social justice. Reverend Martin Luther King Jr.’s children and family also spoke of wealth re-distribution, claiming that poverty is the result of the rich having to much and the government not taxing them enough. Altogether this was nothing more than the victim mentallity that has kept Black America down for far too long. Herman Cain is the product of hard work, good choices and self reliance, more like what King espoused so many times.
Herman Cain will give Blacks a different role model. One who says “no more excuses, succeed or fail, it‘s not the white man’s fault”. There will always be racism, from all sides. But institutionalised racism in this country is gone.Herman Cain will show a new path to success and self reliance
Mitt Romney will not be able to lead Blacks to a new reality and way of thinking like Cain could. Herman Cain might be able to turn back affirmative action and hiring quotas, which have only hurt Blacks. Romney never could or would even touch those sensitive issues, Herman Can.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 1:53pmCain is correct, “some people” will pay more. The poor and middle class (that’s you and me) will pay more, and the rich will pay less.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/herman-cains-misleading-pitch-for-the-999-plan/2011/10/12/gIQAHszPgL_blog.html
Now why is it that returning that tax level of the wealthiest to what they were before Bush’s tax cuts is “class warfare” will shift the tax burden to those least able to afford it is not “class warfare?” This plan is Robin Hood in reverse. This is a clear redistribution of wealth from the poor to the rich.
Okay, so you and I pay more taxes, so that the rich can buy a new Lear jet, something they get a tax break for. If you like this plan, you really are putting your money where you mouth is. Yes, corporations are making record profits (and weirdly these “job creators” aren’t hiring) and you want to further add to their wealth at your expense. Okay, then vote for Cain.
Report Post »the hawk
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:02pmI with Cain all the way except Iraq & Affgannystand……get out ….Bring our people home,
Report Post »those people arn’t worth our blood and treasure ! But we should keep droning them till they pass out from stress!……………………………………………
youshuthehellup
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:05pmI am hawaiian – does anyone hear hawaiians going around demanding to be called Hawaiian American.
Report Post »The hell with it. We should all be called salad bowl mix! we are all called Americans. uhh can we explain this anymore simpler? wait maybe my five year old can….
blue_sky
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:06pm.
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Pizza man will not deliver.
Sorry, folks, the man is unable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOs1m5QqaHg
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joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:15pm“Cain is correct, “some people” will pay more. The poor and middle class (that’s you and me) will pay more, and the rich will pay less. ”
yeah its about time you start paying your fair share and stop living off the work of others. time to get off the wagon, get a job, and start pulling the wagon with the rest of us who work.
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:19pmSo what? The so called prominent black leaders attacking Herman Cain because he isn’t authentically Black enough?????????? These so called prominent blacks are what we used to call “UPPITY”
I can remember when I thought I was in love with the “Matilda” guy, when I was young and swayed to the music. This Belafonte jerk is just that. Not even from America and he’s telling us how to vote?
He’s just an old hack who wants his communist voice heard, go back to Jamaica where your type belongs and get involved in their sorry government., you A.H.
Herman Cain is the REAL DEAL for once in America, since Ronald Reagan. A tip: cut off the MC from your old bumper sticker and it’s will express our current message. ha. I want a bumper sticker that says: “CAIN IS ABLE” or “YES WE CAIN” or “RAISING CAIN” for yard signs too.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:21pm“Yes, corporations are making record profits (and weirdly these “job creators” aren’t hiring) and you want to further add to their wealth at your expense”
which corporations? you mean guvmint motors and GE?
how does any corporation getting wealthy come at my expense, other than me buying their products vountarily?
I’d love to see the answer to this question, but you libs aren’t very good at indepedent thought…about the best you can do is spew talking points.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:23pmJOE, my guess is, based on national averages, that I pay more taxes than you. Actually, since you pay less in taxes, both percentage-wise and in absolute dollars, that the rich (and I’m not rich BTW), that makes you a moocher doesn’t it?
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:23pm@MILS; Forget what the establishment wants. It’s become what I, and many Americans want that counts. I’m tired of being told who is gonna win this far out. I‘m in Herman Cain’s corner regardless.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:27pm“JOE, my guess is, based on national averages, that I pay more taxes than you. Actually”
your know J, drugs are bad for you.
just worried about your physical, and mental health,.,,
oh does your car run on sustainable stars?
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:30pm“since you pay less in taxes, both percentage-wise and in absolute dollars, that the rich ”
oh yeah this is such a lie. the only rich who pay less are super-rich liberal hypocrites like buffet who do everything possible to evade taxes…like get their income from capital gains instead of income.
but then that distinction is lost on you talking point liberal parrots…
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:31pmI just watched Herman Cain on Meet the Press and the moderator was trying all kinds of “gotcha” questions and Herman was absolutley excellent. He came back with example after example that were articulate and intellegent. He explained his position on a lot of issues so before anyone makes a derogatory remark about him, you need to listen to what he has to say, let him explain his 999 plan, and not what the main stream media is telling you. I really like Herman, and I like what he has to say. I believe he could hold his own against Obama.
Report Post »oftheWay
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:38pmThe term ‘African-American’ is not anti-American at all. It was born out of the great need for former slaves from Africa born in America to gain a sense of identity. America did not want them; they rightfully felt no kinship with America when some of it’s founders who wrote so eloquently about the freedom of men, suppressed that freedom from the slaves that they owned.
The term is not as relevant today as it was when it was coined; African-Americans largely enjoy the same freedoms that the constitution affords to all American citizens. The term continues, however, to be a term of endearment and a source of rememberance of the brutality that African-American’s suffered, from being kidnap from Africa to their inhumane, dehumanizing treatment by slaveholders. Most African-Americans did not imigrate to this country like the Mexican, English, Italian, and Asian Americans aforementioned. Therefore, the African-American situation has no equal analogy to be drawn from.
I‘ve never understood the offense that the term ’African-American’ caused in so many. I think it must be a matter of ignorance of its origins and of what it means to people.
African-American are not homogenous in thought however, and Mr. Cain is well within his rights to prefer one term over the other as all Americans . The best thing that the rest of us can do is be respectful of others wishes if it does not violate or infringe upon the our rights.
Report Post »ihveit
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:40pmon this subject JCS said:
“Okay, so you and I pay more taxes, so that the rich can buy a new Lear jet, something they get a tax break for. If you like this plan, you really are putting your money where you mouth is. Yes, corporations are making record profits (and weirdly these “job creators” aren’t hiring) and you want to further add to their wealth at your expense. Okay, then vote for Cain.”
so let me explain something …sure you may pay more.. why do you think that you shouold be exempt from paying a part of the govt? what makes poorer people more deserving…
but heres a good idea… you want a lear jet? well go out and start a business and earn that right.. nobody gave them this.. it was earned.. and in the process it gave millions of people new homes and new cars
and no i dont have much.. i and wife are on ss.. BUT WE PAID FOR IT.. do i deserve more from the govt at the expense of those who were smart enough or lucky to make it in this country? no i dont.. nor do you… there aree to many lazy people wanting others to pay for their way of life.. if you own a caddy they want you to furnish them one tooll
I THINK CAIN WANTS AMERICANS (all americans) TO EARN THEIR KEEP.. CUT the govt down,, let people eat what they earn and leave mine alone…
my choice for pres
Report Post »1 cain
2 gingrich
3 perry
4 tears of fear
will
joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:41pmjzs no answers to my questions huh? no surprise is it now? LOL
if you could think for yourself you wouldn’t be a democrat…
Report Post »portague
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:47pmyes some will pay more in taxes. The 47% who pay no income tax and have no skin in the game will actually have to pay a little oh no.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:53pmWhat is a rebate check under Cain’s plan?
How will a 9% tax impact us when inflation hits?
9-9-9 plan is a joke….
Cain saying he prefers “black American” instead of “American” shows what he sees first. I cannot support that.
kindling
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:53pmOne of the first times I saw him talk he said the FED did not need to be audited. Then a few weeks or so later he said he didn’t mind if the FED was audited, but that he felt there were other things more important that needed to be done ASAP. I think what he was saying is that we need to stop wasting time doing things that better government would take care of. I like him more than anyone I have seem run for office of President in my entire life. I always have to say to myself I really don’t care for this or that about those in the past but with Mr. Cain the more he says the happier I am. God protect this man and protect him from all evil.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:57pm“How will a 9% tax impact us when inflation hits?
9-9-9 plan is a joke….
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well that confirms that Cain is the man, and his plan is a great one.
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:00pmI “PREFER” him be called “Federal Reserve Stooge.”
███ ████ 2012
Report Post »RESTORE AMERICA NOW!!
NHwinter
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:00pmI wish people would listen to and take a closer look at Newt. Forget his personal past, they all have things in their past they are not proud of – its time to let that go. He speaks plainly and forcefully, could wipe the floor with Obama in a debate, has extensive foreign experience, knows what he is talking about, would repeal 500 of Obama’s executive orders on the first day, would repeal Obamacare, and I beleive he would turn this country around very quickly. Listen to him, his experience speaks volumns. Cain as VP, or Rubio, and West as Sec. of State.
chazman
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:11pm… Herman Cain is a force to be reckond with. However, it would have great if he would have reached across the table and punched that snot nosed punk, Gregory, right in the mouth!!
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:12pmYes, we all have stories to tell about the atrocities our family members have suffered. The Indians and specifically the Cherokee Indians forced march to Oklahoma where many lost their lives, The “Trail of Tears.” The atrocities still going on today in many parts of Africa, women being raped and murdered and the poor children is more of a crime than I can bare to know.
Report Post »We all have stories to tell what happened in different cruel countries and how their people were treated by their own country.
I’m sorry for all these people, not just the blacks who were sold into slavery by their own people. Please forgive me, I’m tired of being blamed for what ignorant people did 300 years ago. We still have our share of the same type ignorant people today, unfortunately.
tifosa
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:13pmI didn‘t see ’Meet The Press‘ but if Gregory didn’t ask Cain if he got the 9-9-9 plan from SimCity4, the video game, they are not worth their weight.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:14pm@Joe
Go kick rocks…
Your rude vile stupid comments are really not needed and definitely not wanted. Notice most ignore you…
If you enjoy making yourself look as stupid as you sound, keep posting comments equal to the thought of OWS Protesters.
If you support Cain then you are giving your other Cain supporters a bad name and image. I could only imagine what Cain would say about you and your comments Joe. He’d probably ask you not to vote for him. Something to ponder. Please don’t post anything to me again. You are an embarrassment to all Americans. .
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:19pm@NHWINTER, I too like Newt. he has many great ideas and knows the DC game and strategies better than anyone. I think that he would make a great VP for Herman Cain, much in the way that Dick Cheney helped Gerorge Bush. Gingrich could help craft legislation and executive orders as well as helping to navigate the Congressional mine field. Newt also brings some great ideas and has many allies in the Congress. Newt has said that he will be a Veep…
Cain – Gingrich 2012
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:25pm@ rangerp
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 1:26pm
I like “American”.
I do not care what color you skin is.
It is generally not an issue, until people start thinking ther are owed something because of the color of their skin.
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I tend to agree that all Americans are Americans. The problem is that being of a different ethnicity has been etched into the psyche of the American culture. Whether by slavery, the Black Codes following the Civil War, Wilsons segregation of not only Blacks, but Chinese and Germans, FDR’s hatred against German and Japanese Americans and continued policy of segregation of Blacks. When the Civil Rights Acts were passed there was already a policy forming to ensure that the American people would remain segregated. That method is known as multiculturalism. Liberalism and progressivism REQUIRES keeping the American people divided to destroy the Republican form of Government. That’s the community organizers and “educators” (more like sheep herders) union with the liberalism/progressivism of politics. Fan the flames of race as distinct subcultures with-in American society to lobby votes as though the politicians were actually for that particular race, rather than simply being for the America race.
I prefer Black American as well. The 100 year policy can’t be hidden. First we crawl, then we wa
Report Post »Link8on
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:29pmHC’s 999 is a nice idea
However, Higher Overall Government Spending or borrowing reduce the chance of lower taxes today or tomorrow.
We need to fix the faulty and hidden ways of how the US government spends or wastes our taxpayer $
Very little of this waste is now transparent.
Sure we can vote a set of congress in that spends less for 2 years, but a few elections later and congress will overspend again. A system is needed
Congress could take a few pages from how NASCAR operates.
NASCAR coordinates
1 Race Tracks
Report Post »2. Drivers ( few and elite, many with colorful histories)
3. Race Cars (few , elite , fine tuned, aiming for , but not always reaching the checkered flag in each race) (most of the spending is done here)
4. Stadium fans (ticket purchasers)
5. Sponsors (an spending army that wants to connect to fans in the stadiums and media, they spend to advertise with 3 2, and 1)
6. Pit Crews (each team gets a budget from the sponsors for the car they care for)
7. Media (another source of organizational revenue)
Link8on
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:30pmWe could parallel that with Congress , which coordinates
1. Sessions
2. Congress members
3. Spending Bills
4 Taxpayer cash (however our taxpaying public are mostly absent when congress is in session passing spending bills)
5. Lobbyists. (often a source of cash to Congress members, but not the spending bills, and their names are not on the bills.)
6 Congressional staffers (paid for by a congress members funding)
7 Media (NOT source of revenue)
Equating lobbyist firms to Nascar sponsors, I think they need to pay for the bills that they want.
Not only that, they also need to advertise / fully disclose whatever bills they want passed.
Congress members voting to pass bills spending taxpayer money should also use their money on each bill they vote for, provided from their own campaign funds.
Report Post »Higher tax costing bills need to be reflected in the money congress has to raise in order to pass it.
I suspect most of congress can easily afford this since they are the most talented fundraisers in our country.
When they run out of cash, they can vote no or abstain.
To offset low cash congress members, campaign fund rich members should be allowed to Publicly contribute campaign funds to them and post the certain bill # vote contract details.
Link8on
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:31pmAll bills need to have a sponsorship list of who paid when. Each passing bill’s duration should be limited to expire and require reactivation vote when the Congressional session funding raised for it is exhausted.
Failed bills return 50% of congress voting cash back to each member of congress after the next election. They get it back only if they win re-election.
Funds not returned in this manner go to pay for the federal deficit.
Basically, we have to replace hidden bribes with public sponsorships.
While I doubt that this type of system would soon go into effect in our national government, It would be a good model for a smaller town, especially one with many NASCAR fans.
I checked a few race tracks for remaining NASCAR ticket prices and they vary from $ 10 – $185. Hopefully, taxation in the USA may also remain afordable to the many.
Report Post »Essa
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:36pmWe pay 9% sales tax in TN so we would pay more that18%. Our 15% tax rate would go 9 but we are paying more unless we buy used. That’s what I do anyway. The problem I see is food. I have 4 children. If I have to pay 18% on that it would hurt
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:36pm@ tifosa
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:13pm
I didn‘t see ’Meet The Press‘ but if Gregory didn’t ask Cain if he got the 9-9-9 plan from SimCity4, the video game, they are not worth their weight.
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How does it feel walking thru life as obviously mentally deficient as you are?
tifosa
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:49pmVIPER1, you and your wife pay lots of taxes, check into it. In fact, proportionately you pay a higher percentage of your income in taxes than the wealthiest 1% do. You are the 99%. So is everyone at theblaze, including the editors. :^)
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:52pmj4diceusmc
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:45pm
Second He NEVER said he was against the FED being audited..
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Yes he did:
“I think a lot of people are calling for this audit of the Federal Reserve because they don’t know enough about it. There’s no hidden secrets going on in the Federal Reserve to my knowledge. And I tell people, we’ve got 12 Federal Reserve Banks. Find out which district you are in, call them up and go from there. We don’t need to waste money with another commission OR AN AUDIT.”
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAkeFJXwUk
joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:53pm“proportionately you pay a higher percentage of your income in taxes than the wealthiest 1% do”
really? post your proof…you cannot this is a total liberal lie.
the only rich who pay a lower tax rate then the normal income tax, are those like that liberal hypocrite buffet who do everything possible to reduce their tax burden, like get their income from capital gains instead of income.
I know you won’t be able to respond, you libs are only good at posting talking points.
Report Post »mrst
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:54pmHe did not say he didn’t want audits. He said– its fine with him if folks want to audit the fed but that it is not his personal priority.
Report Post »Also– some people would pay more with the sales tax because some people buy more spendy stuff. Duh.
joe1234
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:56pmoh and just to prove how incredibly ignorant that comment is..
In 2008, the top 1 percent of tax returns paid 38.0 percent of all federal individual income taxes and earned 20.0 percent of adjusted gross income, compared to 2007 when those figures were 40.4 percent and 22.8 percent, respectively. Both of those figures—share of income and share of taxes paid—were their lowest since 2004 when the top 1 percent earned 19 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI) and paid 36.9 percent of federal individual income taxes.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/250.html
Report Post »obama-mecca-me-sick
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:56pmI watched this interview and my heart swelled with hope and pride. Herman Cain would be our first Black President . He is a role model for conservatives of every race. He handled flaming progressive David Gregory like a pro. I am so impressed with Mr. Cain. He would represent all black Americans that have been taught you work for what you want.That have been taught to hold yourself accountable for your actions and decisions in life.
Report Post »We taught our children that their ancestors might have had masters , but in America you are your own master with countless opportunities and possibilities to achieve anything you desire. That with freedom and equal rights in America you can dream. Dr. King died for that dream and the equal rights and freedom was won but the true slave masters such as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would try to use them and Dr. King to destroy and disrupt the whole Nations freedoms.
Herman Cain has my vote and the RNC is making a tragic mistake by not throwing full support behind him and his 999 plan.
I just bought 50 bumper stickers that read : CAIN VS. UNABLE and our friends and family will display them on our cars with pride. Every inner city should be plastered with them !!
jhaydeng
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:00pmI’ve had enough of people breaking his chops! Herman is the ONLY candidate that suits a true Conservative folks!!!
Report Post »Talmid of Yeshua
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:19pmHe means that some people will pay more because it’s a consumption tax on new goods. Not that you will pay a higher percent, but that you will pay more because you buy more.
The left-wing media is trying to twist his words to destroy him because he is becoming a serious threat to the liberals, just like Sarah Palin was.
Report Post »VerySeniorCitizen
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:25pmHowever, it seems that Herman is a willing servant of the Koch Plantation slave owners. He has taken himself waaaaaaaay back in history! After sitting back and accepting the benefits that the civil rights movement gave him – free and clear – he has decided to allow himself to become supplicant to his owners. He belittles blacks and whites with no regard. It seems that EVERYONE is beneath contempt – including those of you who believe his stupid 999 plan. If he could have found just one more thing to be able to screw the working class he would have called it the 100-0 plan. 100% for his corporate owners and 0 for the working class.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:31pmI don’t care what he calls himself. He could call himself Kermit the Frog for all I care.
I’m not voting for any Federal Reserve agents.
Ron Paul 2012.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:48pmHerman Cain is a RINO too.
He isn’t a Republican. He’s a “Federal Reservist”. A Con Artist. A Confidence Man.
Nothing the Federal Reserve does can be considered fiscally conservative. This man thinks he can “fix” it.
How exactly? He isn‘t talking about cutting the PRIVATE foreign shareholders’ ties to the PRIVATE bank and returning the prosperity of the ability to issue credit at interest to the US Treasury…backed by tangible assets, not “faith”…
He thinks he can “fix it” and still allow foreigners to lend us our “own” money under the guise of a “Federal” institution!
Federal Reserve notes don’t belong to the United States of America. Compare the “Federal Reserve Note” to a Silver Certificate and you’ll see that the Silver Certificate is backed by tangible assets deposited (reserved) at the United States Treasury .
A Silver Certificate says that there is RESERVED an “x” amount of silver “on deposit” with the Treasury, payable to the bearer of the note on demand.
A Federal Reserve Note simply asserts that it is legal tender based on the confidence (faith and credit) of the United States Treasury. Keyword here is “confidence”. You can’t get “x” amount of silver on demand from the Federal Reserve, because they have ZERO RESERVES. ZERO DEPOSITS. The paper is backed by AIR…backed by “confidence”.
We’re being conned by “confidence artists”. Con Artists.
I know it‘s difficult to accept that you’ve been conned. But
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:52pm@ Talmid of Yeshua
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:19pm
He means that some people will pay more because it’s a consumption tax on new goods. Not that you will pay a higher percent, but that you will pay more because you buy more.
The left-wing media is trying to twist his words to destroy him because he is becoming a serious threat to the liberals, just like Sarah Palin was.
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Listen to this poster! Excellent post.
dr_funk
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:58pmDrakkhanlord, stop repeating Paul-campaign-pushed lies about Cain.
He never said he was opposed to auditing the Fed. He merely said he didn’t think it would be productive, and did not make it a top priority of his own.
Report Post »GONESURFING
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:01pmHerman is right on. Eliminate the IRS and the new tax is on new goods only. The poor buy a lot of used goods so it wouldn’t affect them as much as the rich who usually buy new goods.
I would vote for him for sure, besides it would funny to see all the lefties with their “racists” accusations reacting to Herman Cain.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:12pm@Dr Funk
You are incorrect. Listen to Herman’s own words here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAkeFJXwUk
Pay close attention to the beginning and at minute mark 1:23-1:25.
Cain is not for an audit. If you need me to do the dictation of this I will.
The only person who lied Was Cain by saying he didn’t call those wanting an audit ignorant. He did.
Cain was also wrong that an audit wouldn’t find anything, as it did.
Cain is 100% wrong about the Fed and those wanting an audit of it, like Glenn Beck and us who watched Glenn’s exposure of the Fed. Like Ron Paul who has called for it for years.
You repeated a lie by using Cain’s talking points. Have a great day!
Report Post »Mich9Bran
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:32pmGingrich and Cain or Cain and Gingrinch
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:52pm@ oftheWay
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:38pm
The term ‘African-American’ is not anti-American at all. It was born out of the great need for former slaves from Africa born in America to gain a sense of identity. America did not want them; they rightfully felt no kinship with America when some of it’s founders who wrote so eloquently about the freedom of men, suppressed that freedom from the slaves that they owned.
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Say what?
African American “IS” a slur against Black Americans. It has nothing to do with slavery, and everything to do with American exceptionalism. By the government and societies (along with government sponsored eduction aka public education) push thru multiculturalism, it is creating cultural barriers that promotes differences and gives the powers that be a tool to keep friction alive through the lame brained idea of “victimization”. America is a shared idea, not a skin color idea.
Liberalism perverts the truth of American exceptionalism. As a Black man I am insulted that society perpetuates the “there there” nonsense, we’ll care for you because your roots makes you inferior. How degrading “is” that? Progressivism is even worse. Do yourself a study of the roots of progressivism and its methodology of the master race social engineering. Your position is flawed because it lack informati
Report Post »robert
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 6:08pmIf more black people were like Herman Cain, I would change my opinion of them as a group. He’s a quality guy.
It’s too bad the vast majority of blacks are anti-white haters. They’re only hurting themselves.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 7:10pm@The10thAmendment I agree with most of what you said except the part about the ‘America race’ there’s no such thing as the American race,being American is a nationality.
Report Post »copyCAT3
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 7:43pmJZS you have **** for brains. Of course the poor and middle class would pay more. Because they pay NOTHING right now. I thought all of you libs want equal rights. Well doesn’t that mean if everyone is treated equally then they all have equal access to their property. Our poor aren’t poor! Over 60% have 2 or more flat screen TVs. Over half of them have a state-of-the-art video game system. So nice try, but you have no logic.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 7:46pm@ progressiveslayer
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 7:10pm
@The10thAmendment I agree with most of what you said except the part about the ‘America race’ there’s no such thing as the American race,being American is a nationality.
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Just as Jews associate, without regard to color of skin, the Jewish race, we are an American race.
Race is defined as a classification of humans into large and distinct populations or groups by factors such as heritable phenotypic characteristics or geographic ancestry, but also often influenced by and correlated with traits such as appearance, culture, ethnicity, and socio-economic status.
It’s on the back half of the definition that liberalism, and specifically progressivism chooses to attack the idea the Founders saw as a distinct race of people known as Americans. They stress the traits of influence in association with skin color to keep Americans divided at the two lowest rungs of the “race” of Americans, being socio-economics and ethnicity. In that way they can perpetuate class warfare across both boundaries and rob every one of us of the exceptionalism of the Founders ideals and vision.
I understand what you’re saying, but even that is a perpetuation of intent. Until we see each other as a distinct people, or race, we are never going to regain the pathway that makes America spec
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 8:07pm@ progressiveslayer
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A case in point to what I was saying above. I travel to just about every Country on earth, and a great deal throughout the Middle and Near East, as well as in Africa of late. I can go to just about any of those places and without fail after talking with people for even a short time, they tell me that I’m an American simply by my habits, way of dressing. Not even in Africa where we’ve been a lot recently do the Black Africans call me an African American. They call me either a Black man, or a Black American.
American is a distinct race. The lies perpetuated by the main stream in America because of multiculturalism that I am an African American by race is a perversion of the truth. It serves class warfare. Because liberalism has gradually herded many Blacks into high population centers, they have created a lower socio-economic structure. They keep that fueled, not because they have an affinity for the color of my skin, but that if they “give” me enough handouts, I will vote for that to continue.
Red, Yellow, Black, White and Brown. WE ARE ALL of the same race, known as Americans.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 8:39pm@The10thAmendment I appreciate the time you took for the lengthy answer but I must respectfully disagree on this point,I’ll leave it at that,based on your prior posts I believe you’re a patriot so be careful and vigilant on your travels throughout the world,we need patriots with what’s going on in these difficult times.
Report Post »dumboldcontractor
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 8:47pmI’m curious. Why is nobody anywhere mentioning that his 9-9-9 plan would force the people in the underground economy (people working under the table and drug dealers, hookers etc.) to finally pay their ‘fair share”? I think it is a great selling point.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 8:58pmPLEASE, take the time to watch this video by Dick Morris – he explains his analysis of the 9-9-9 plan. He shares my same concerns, but, the number crunching is DEFINITELY WORTH HEARING!
(Dick Morris is a frequent Fox News contributor)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0FDp51c-Bk
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:04pm@ progressiveslayer
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 8:39pm
@The10thAmendment I appreciate the time you took for the lengthy answer but I must respectfully disagree on this point,I’ll leave it at that,based on your prior posts I believe you’re a patriot so be careful and vigilant on your travels throughout the world,we need patriots with what’s going on in these difficult times.
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Most of my traveling is working with Military personnel, providing tools that hopefully keeps them safe and deadly at the same time.
Disagreeing isn’t always a bad thing. It should push us to research subjects to their core. Being a Computer Engineer I have a little bit of inter-action with Biologists, and Geneticists. All of them have thrown out the idea of color of skin being a factor in determining race because we are all from the sub species known as ****-sapiens. Folk taxonomy lent itself to stereotyping as societies emerged. Geography is probably the most determining factor of how Nationalities develop over time. In the age of mass transportation that had to be readdressed (why?) for social engineering purposes. Biologically we are all the same, but have “developed” distinct traits/characteristics because of geographic necessity.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:08pmihveit, you say you are on social security. You paid into it, now you are getting it back. That’s good, that’s the way it works. But you understand that’s socialism right? SS is forced saving so that America doesn’t have homeless elederly people begging for a can of cat food and living under bridges when they retire.
Republicans would elminate the very program that is, probably, keeping you out of poverty or even homelessness.
But let’s assume we eliminate SS. Let’s suppose we never had it. What does a person like you have to do and your wife have to do to retire and maintain your standard of living? Let‘s suppose you’re combined incomes are around 60K and you plan on living 20 years after you retire. That would mean you need need to save… let’s see… 1.2 million dollars. Now seriously, if you knew there was no SS when you were 20 years old, would you have put 1.2 million in the bank?
Report Post »FNTM
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:28pm@EDCT and others. Not that my opinion means a hell of a lot but: I’ve known Herman Cain for several years as a radio personality and a speaker at TEA gatherings in Atlanta area. He is the genuine artilcle and beleives all of us need the cahnce to get out and make something of ourselves – not be made into something. All of you can do your homework as most fo what Herman Cain has ever said on the radio or TV is availbel unlike someone else we knwo only too well. Cehck him out – he is the real deal!
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:38pm@ jzs
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 9:08pm
ihveit, you say you are on social security. You paid into it, now you are getting it back. That’s good, that’s the way it works. But you understand that’s socialism right? SS is forced saving so that America doesn’t have homeless elederly people begging for a can of cat food and living under bridges when they retire.
Republicans would elminate the very program that is, probably, keeping you out of poverty or even homelessness.
But let’s assume we eliminate SS. Let’s suppose we never had it. What does a person like you have to do and your wife have to do to retire and maintain your standard of living? Let‘s suppose you’re combined incomes are around 60K and you plan on living 20 years after you retire. That would mean you need need to save… let’s see… 1.2 million dollars. Now seriously, if you knew there was no SS when you were 20 years old, would you have put 1.2 million in the bank?
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Charity begins in the home, not from the hands of strangers. America needs to return to family values. ALL entitlements should end. The only exceptions to that should be the fatherless, the widow, and those physically incapable of providing for themselves.
CottonMPG
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:01pmSome people pay no taxes now, will after 999 is implemented, therefore, they will pay more in taxes. Even they will benefit though. Lower taxes will mean more jobs and lower prices. It will all work out for everyone.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:39pmThis guy could beat the tar out of Obama, and that’s good enough for me!!!
Report Post »Land of Confusion
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:41pm@libertarianforlife; You do realize Obama’s far more naive than Cain, right? His foreign policy blows, his understanding of economics is non-existent, he couldn’t create a job even if he was able to get a kit for doing so, and he has absolutely NO idea what the American people want.. He ONLY knows what he and his party’s agenda is and will stop at nothing to get it in place. I’ve never witnessed someone struggle so badly with even the most simple of concepts, like increasing taxes during a recession is a HORRIBLE idea, no matter what the situation may be..
Report Post »foundersadmirer
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 10:48pmthe people that would pay more are the folks who pay nothing now.
Report Post »Land of Confusion
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:05pmJZS: “Cain is correct, “some people” will pay more. The poor and middle class (that’s you and me) will pay more, and the rich will pay less.”
First, please explain how his plan shifts the tax burden to the poor, without a link to a story that someone else wrote, please.
Second, a consumption tax would be the most progressive form of taxation we could have that would still be “fair”. Generally speaking, those with higher incomes and net worth tend to buy more expensive items and larger quantities of inexpensive products than those in the lower income brackets do. A 9% tax on these purchases equates to wealthier Americans paying more in taxes because their individual purchases cost more and less wealthy Americans not paying as much, yet both pay amounts that are relative to their incomes/net worth because the percentage doesn’t change.
On top of that, the income tax being the same again assures that the amount paid by both groups is the same as a percentage, therefore it’s “fair”. 9% of $20,000 is $1,800 and 9% of $200,000 is $18,000, so again please explain to me how the tax burden would be shifted to the poor and how this wouldn’t be progressive taxation? Granted the actual percentage would be the same across every income bracket but the actual amounts paid WOULD be progressive as wealthier people would pay more.
One final point I want to make is that nobody seems to be bringing up one VERY important aspect of the 9-9-9 plan; that a 9% consumption t
Report Post »Land of Confusion
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:19pmCTD.
The final point I want to make is that nobody seems to be mentioning one important aspect of Cain’s 9-9-9 plan; that NOBODY would be able to escape paying in their “fair share” to the government because of the 9% consumption tax. Illegal immigrants who dodge income taxes would be caught at the register, drug dealers with unclaimed income would pay, well anybody involved with illegally making money would be required to pay. Working “under the table” wouldn’t have a huge benefit anymore so less people would do it, people who deal in all cash wouldn’t be able to get out of contributing to the government, etc. This would greatly broaden the tax base which would ultimately end up in the government receiving more revenue off more people paying in less per person.
This added to the flat 9% business tax and the flat 9% income tax would be the best thing that could happen for this country. It would greatly reduce the need for the giant and intrusive bureaucracy we call the IRS thus greatly reducing the size of it and giving us more freedom with OUR money. It would level the playing field for everyone by simplifying the tax code and having everyone pay the SAME EXACT RATE. And it would eliminate the punitive nature of our current tax code that punishes success and rewards inactivity.
Only those who currently benefit from the existing tax system, ie; the 50% or so who pay NOTHING in, would be against such a policy. However for the rest of us it would greatly benef
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:51pm@jzs – to save 1.2 million for retirement, you have to put away $100 per month from age 24 to age 64. Actually, with a good IRA, you will get closer to 1.5 MILLION over that 40 years.
Report Post »Just a bit of MATH for you, as opposed to rhetoric that has no basis in facts, as you keep spewing.
Cosmos102
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:54pmWhen Cain talks, I feel comforted. The opposite of what I feel when Obama speaks. In fact, I can‘t listen to the sound of Obama’s voice.
Report Post »cashprize
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:58pmEasy answer….they misunderstood on meet the Press. When he said some people will pay more, he meant one thing and most everyone in the media took it the way they wanted.
What he explained was that the tax is a replacement tax. It removes as much as 22% of SECRET tax. Lowers those sneak- a- taxes as he calls them and put the 9% in place of it.
Now that means you will have a visible tax but is actually paying less. However the REASON some still pay more taxes that someone else is because of their choices. It is NOT a HIGHER tax rate as the media is trying to say. Example: If you and I make the same amount of money or if we donet work and are spending retirement money, we both pay the same amount of tax rate, 9% but if I buy two new cars instead of ONE, I will pay more taxes. Or If I decide to buy two used cars and you buy One new car, you pay more taxes in AMOUNT, not rate.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 12:33amrobert
If you form opinions of people in groups, then I would like you to stay far away from me, you prejudiced slime. I know white people who won’t associate with you, either.
Cain’s tax plan is fatally flawed for this one reason… READ CAREFULLY, MATHEMATICALLY CHALLENGED…
A fixed “9-9-9″ interest rate will mean absolutely NOTHING if he allows the Federal Reserve to continue to exist and devalue our currency (hidden tax) by lending trillions of dollars to LORD KNOWS at .01% interest.
Period.
Abolish the Fed.
Abolish Herman Cain‘s former employer who he said doesn’t need to be audited, and can be “fixed”, because he is such an astute Federal Reserve insider that he can actually “fix” something, having been so far “inside the belly of the beast”, like compacted excrement.
***SIGH***
Ron Paul 2012.
Report Post »stopspendingourmoney
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 1:11amCain in his own words saying he does not think the feds need to be audited.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAkeFJXwUk
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 1:43amSoros, Gore, Buffet, and all other investors would pay 0% for capital gains would be 0%. The corporations they invest in would pay 9%. Soros et al would only have to pay 9% sales tax…
Empowered Zones is picking winners/losers and not flat or fair. It is Government treating non prosperous groups better then thriving groups. Why should Detroit, Union hub, get a lower tax rate because Unions ran business out of town and us right to workers get taxed 9% for being prosperous and attracting business? That is wrong!
Now listen to why Cain has empowered zones:
“I believe in empowerment zones. Most of the unemployed black Americans in this country are in these mostly economically depressed areas. It could be, and I’m only using this as an example, because we haven’t finished establishing the parameters yet. Instead of in a designated empowerment zone, it being 9-9-9, it could be, as an example only, 3-3-3.
What this does, because you have a lot of African-Americans located in cities like Detroit, disproportionately, it would encourage businesses to stay in business there or to move there. It would encourage people to work there, because if you live in the empowerment zone, you’re going to pay a smaller percentage in taxes.”
Cannot support this. It is wrong! Cain sees race first in this quote! Absolutely cannot support 9-9-9! No one is addressing inflation either! 9-9-9 no way!
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 3:57amRon Pork Paul aka Mr little Government. For Fiscal Year 2010, Paul requested 54 total earmarks, adding up to $398,460,640 in pork that the presidential candidate sought to bring home to his district. When America is bleeding red Dr Pork Paul has no problem adding to that debit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbca34MS8LI
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 7:04ami agree with him on many of his ideas. i am pleased to see him call himself a black american. there should be no hyphenated americans. the reference to him working with the fed confuses me. many people have worked for the government and were still conservatives. i wonder what he could say about his time at the fed??
Report Post »celticcountryman
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 7:40amHe is a Federal Reserve man. No thank you.
Report Post »Gerrymanderer
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 7:48amHe ain’t gonna win with just 5 Million bucks vs. Obama’s 99 Million bucks. Black American? No, he’s a whack American. Vote Newt 2012.
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 8:28amHow about just “ American ” Mr. Cain ? I don‘t go around saying I’m a white american I say I’m American… I may start though course I’ll be called a racist.
Report Post »veracity79
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 9:14amCain is just another banker lackey…I think I see some wolf fur sticking out of that sheep suit he‘s wearin’.
Report Post »veracity79
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 9:40amLike I said…Cain is just another lackey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb01Xt4YZes&feature=related
Report Post »veracity79
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 11:14amsome “vulgar language”…but this sums it up, thank you george carlin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0yhHHPc7IU&feature=related
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 11:26amWealthy American’s, White, Yellow and Black will pay more in taxes because they desire New things. re-sale shops will prosper as no sales tax on those purchases.
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 12:26pmFirst of all…for all the nutters out there that don’t even understand Economics 101…and I don’t care how much money you make…if you don’t get this…you are either dillusional, ignorant, or flat out LYING!!
CORPORATIONS NEVER PAY TAXES!!! Every corporation in the United States and all over the world simply pass the taxes/fees/fines/tariffs that a government charges them ONTO THE CONSUMER! They have all of that built into their profit margins!! If they want a 10% margin then they factor in manufacturing, wages, benefits, advertising, shipping, and taxes/fees and then just add 10% to the Wholesaler…who adds his 10% to the Retailer..which adds their 10% to consumer…. EVERYONE makes their money and the Consumer PAID for it!!
The average product has a built in 30% profit margin from Manufacturer to Consumer. Some things like jewelry, cosmetics, furniture, cars and trucks, and other big ticket or luxury items have profit margins from 50-300%.
IT IS CALLED CAPITALIST because it RUNS on capital! You get what you want at a price you are willing to pay and the maker gets the profit he wants. WIN-WIN…
When government steps in at ALL levels, you get higher prices for the consumer ONLY!!!
Cain’s 9-9-9 would lower the corporate rate from 35% to 9% – a NET drop of 26% in the PRICE of ALL consumables!! Even with a 9% national sales tax on ALL goods, you would still see a NET drop of 17%. Seeing as 43% of America pay NO taxes, their NET drop would be 8%.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 1:09pmYou folks who try to use math to justify a FOREIGNER lending FAKE PAPER to us through the Federal Reserve when we are supposed to lend ourselves currency backed by tangible assets, are just ridiculous.
I don’t care WHAT kind of tax plan you formulate, if it involves continuing to allow the Federal Reserve to lend fake currency to whoever it wants, at whatever interest rate it wants, all to be paid back to PRIVATE FOREIGN SHAREHOLDERS, then it cannot succeed.
We MUST take back control of the printing and lending of our currency and back it with tangible assets or WE ARE SCREWED!
PERIOD!
To HELL with a “9-9-9″ plan that just uses taxes to service debt to foreigners through the Federal Reserve!
How about a “0-0-0″ PLAN?
Ever heard of “Taxed Enough Already”?
Report Post »liberal_equals_liar
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 1:31pmOk, my turn for your daily JZS lies correction (for those of you who may be new to JZS irrational rants):
Lie #1: Now why is it that returning that tax level of the wealthiest to what they were before Bush’s tax cuts is “class warfare” will shift the tax burden to those least able to afford it is not “class warfare?” This plan is Robin Hood in reverse. This is a clear redistribution of wealth from the poor to the rich.
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The truth: This is not class warfare because everyone is paying a fair share based on percentage. Those that don’t pay taxes now will have to, but that money DOES NOT get redistributed to the wealthy. It goes to the government. Corporations and many americans get to keep more of the money they have earned – it does not BELONG to the poor. They didn’t earn it. Nice try, liar.
Lie #2: Okay, so you and I pay more taxes, so that the rich can buy a new Lear jet, something they get a tax break for.
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The truth: Under the 999 plan, which is the assumption of this argument, there are no tax breaks. It is a flat income tax system + sales tax. Nice try, idiot.
Lie #3: If you like this plan, you really are putting your money where you mouth is. Yes, corporations are making record profits (and weirdly these “job creators” aren’t hiring) and you want to further add to their wealth at your expense. Okay, then vote for Cain.
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The truth: Again, knucklehead, the m
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 2:16pm@V
You are absolutely correct! With the Fed continuing to cause less purchasing power and with inflation soon to hit we are screwed no matter the tax plan. This plan is nothing but a distraction for the problem, The Federal Reserve!
Until we address the Fed we will continue to lose no matter what the tax plan is!
Herman’s “empowered zones” would grant union destroyed cities lower taxes, essentially granting UNIONS lower taxes!
The Federal Reserve is the problem. Herman says it isn’t. Herman is part of the problem! Keep up the posts!
V for victory!
Report Post »DavidZion
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 2:28pmEDCT
If your going to insist that Obama is a Muslim, without a birth certificate etc etc PLEASE go to the other team. That is THEIR tactic; so take your stupid lies to the other side and say things like Tea Party are racist and we want to return to slavery etc etc
Thats my two silver dollars worth
DZ
Report Post »Scott -N-Texas
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 2:41pmThis FED BS is a non issue to anyone but the Paulbots, go worship your deity, Ron Paul……
Report Post »mprob
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 3:05pmWhat has become of the simple phrase “I am an American”? Not black, white or brown, just an American. We are polarized enough with Hispanic American and African American (why not European American, which makes about as much sense). People who are citizens of this nation are Americans. Illegals are not and never should be.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 3:13pm@Scott
You do realize Glenn Beck stated the Federal Reserve was the problem and agreed with every bit Ron Paul said about it?
Am I a Glennbot then for repeating what Glenn said? Are you saying Glenn Beck is lying? Or are you simply attacking Ron Paul supporters because they speak truth over the Fed and your candidate supports the Fed?
The federal reserve is the problem as GLENN said! Wake up Scott! Listen to Glenn about the Federal Reserve!
Report Post »GRusling
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 5:16pmI believe what he was saying about auditing the Fed was that it would be a waste of time because there’s nothing to find…
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 5:45pmSo Cain, who can trace his family back into slavery, isn’t “authentically” black, but the Magic ***** (Spike Lee’s term, mine: http://www.yale.edu/opa/arc-ybc/v29.n21/story3.html ) somehow is, despite not being able to trace his family back even 60 years in the States?
Must be just because Barry’s a Dem.
By the way, has anyone ever mentioned that Barry’s a bastard? Obomba Senior left his pregnant wife, Kezia, and his infant son, Roy, in 1959 to go to Hawaii and study how the Amercan Left hates their own nation, up close and personal.
While there, he met and married the former Little Red Schoolhouse student, Stanley Ann Dunham, in (what else?) a Russian Studies course. He “married” her without bothering to divorce the first wife and had the little bastard Barry Jr. shortly afterwards. Before too long, Stanley got the boot, too. He filed for divorce in 1964, which wasn’t even necessary, given that he was never legally married to her in the first place because he was never divorced from his first wife. At least Barry Sr. told Stanley he was leaving her first, I guess. Poor Kezia didn’t even get that courtesy.
Just thought I’d kick in that extra little tidbit, for good measure.
Report Post »Daniel from TN
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 5:50pmCain stated that when he was with the Fed there was confidence in the Fed: it was doing its intended job and thus no need to audit at that time. He also stated the Fed SHOULD be audited now because of its lack of confidence/trust and billions of dollars unaccounted for at this time.
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 5:54pm@jzs
I’ve got a great idea: How about you STFU and just cut a check to the government for how much you want to be left with and leave those of us who want to keep our money alone? Or would that be too easy?
Fact is, 53% of Americans pay taxes and the other 47% treat this nation like a renter treats a rented car. If you’re not paying into the system, you don’t care where the money goes… that is, unless the money is going to you. Then it’s the end of the freaking world every time someone threatens your gravy train.
Get off your @$$ and get a job, folks. It’s not that hard.
P.S. Spare me the “It’s very hard to find a job!” argument. I was out of work last year. I didn’t need 99 weeks. I needed 23, in a city whose unemployment rate was 3% higher than the national average.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 6:07pm@Daniel
Report Post »I think you lack understanding of what Cain said and might want to listen to this clip of HERMAN himself on 12/29/10. Just in case you lack understanding of when he worked for the Federal Reserve, it was not in 2010. So on 12/29/2010 Herman stated we DO NOT need to audit the Federal Reserve.
Are you saying Herman has flip flopped since 12/29/2010 when he said we shouldn’t audit to now that we should audit?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAkeFJXwUk
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 6:33pmUnder Cain’s plan a 50K income would pay 9% income tax, unless in the “empowered zone”. That would equal $4,500 taxes owed.
Under the current plan a 50K income would pay 15% tax equaling $7,500. A difference in plans of $3,000 less income tax.
Under Cain’s plan 9% would be added to all sales, 9% sales tax. If we take the average dollars spent on food for a 50K income we see they spent $5,560 in ’09. A sales tax of 9% added to that figure would increase it $500 to $6,060 for food.
Less tax of $3,000 – $500 = $2,500 less tax
If we do the same thing for clothes, energy, insurance, entertainment, school supplies, etc the $3,000 less tax is wiped out leaving us paying more then we paid before. Add in less purchasing power (Fed printing more money) and then inflation and we will really pay more. Something to ponder……
http://flowingdata.com/2010/05/13/what-america-spends-on-food-and-drink/
Report Post »oftheWay
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 7:40pm@The10thAmendment
Say what?
African American “IS” a slur against Black Americans. It has nothing to do with slavery, and everything to do with American exceptionalism. By the government and societies (along with government sponsored eduction aka public education) push thru multiculturalism, it is creating cultural barriers that promotes differences and gives the powers that be a tool to keep friction alive through the lame brained idea of “victimization”. America is a shared idea, not a skin color idea.
Liberalism perverts the truth of American exceptionalism. As a Black man I am insulted that society perpetuates the “there there” nonsense, we’ll care for you because your roots makes you inferior. How degrading “is” that? Progressivism is even worse. Do yourself a study of the roots of progressivism and its methodology of the master race social engineering. Your position is flawed because it lack informati
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@THE10THAMENDMENT – I respectfully disagree with your post above. Not only is the term ‘Black American’ unclear and inexact, as there are myriads of Americans whose skin color is black, it also does nothing to acknowledge where the former slaves of American originated. Americans truly can choose to be called whatever they want, but I find no fault in having pride in the o
Report Post »SpeckChaser
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 9:42pm@JZS
Social security was created so retirees could maintain a standard of living equal to their employed standard of living? Would you care to explain that? That sounds like a statement that was made up out of thin air.
Explain how a program that has been in existence for .000002% of the time since the earth was created (earth’s existence according to evolutionist) will result in retirees being homeless and starving to death in the streets, as you have claimed, if it’s abolished.
I guess I will find out for sure when I retire (move under the overpass). I have been told every since I could remember, “don’t count on social security, it wont be there when you retire BECAUSE ITS UNSASTAINABLE!”
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 12:36amI see that people like JZS are up to their supporting anything that tells lies about Cains 999 plan. Here’s my suggestion… Go to Herman Cains website and read the plan.
Report Post »You need to understand the plan before you try and counter argue against it. That article that JZS refrences is dead wrong about Cains plan, but don’t expect that to matter to you-know-who!
Smoovious
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:09am@Okie from Muskogee
- What is a rebate check under Cain’s plan?
- How will a 9% tax impact us when inflation hits?
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- 9-9-9 plan is a joke….
Same as the current percentage-based tax system. It scales up with inflation. Yesterday’s US$1000 @ 9% = US$90… Tomorrow’s inflated US$1100 @ 9% = US$99… just like our complex class-warfare tax code we have now. Everyone should pay the same percentage, period. Fair is fair. Nobody gets a pass.
@tifosa
- I didn‘t see ’Meet The Press‘ but if Gregory didn’t ask Cain if he
- got the 9-9-9 plan from SimCity4, the video game, they are not
- worth their weight.
Frankly, I’ve been thinking for a few (almost) decades now that nobody should be serving in public office with their hands on the tax-the-people dial without having put in at least 1000 hours of SimCity time in first, and having their authenticated scores posted publicly. Make whatever jokes you want about it, but it is a pretty good simulation, and does have educational value.
– Smoovious
Report Post »Fantastic Four
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 2:33pm@jzs….The whole tax code will be tossed out no more loop holes or tax breaks everything si paid up fron and done. if Buffet wants to buy a plain it will be 9% tax plus whatever tax the state has.
you are mixing the 2 systems
it will be 1 new system and no tax on used items plus more money every year in your pocket.
buy used car no Fed tax and no Fed license tax.
New car will be more expensive beacause you add the 9% tax but every check you’ll have 6% more check after check after check for the life of that new car, lower gas prices and all that goes inclueded will lower gas food, clothes adn so-on and so-on and so-on
per new item price is higher but no more special favors for Unions or Businesses means cheaper goods fro all people.
if big business doesn’t comply well it easy to make them go out of business “STOP BUYING AND BOYCOTT” and they go under for greed.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 6:13pmI prefer “American,” period.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:14pmFor some it is about race and not about policy. It is about religion and not about policy.
When are we going to grow up? They never vetted Obama! The media is the enemy, not the people running for office. They shape your thoughts and your mind. They push for the liberal outcome.
It will be only after the US fails that the media will report it.
Report Post »Drakkhanlord
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:20pmTrue…
Report Post »Markie Mark
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:23pmwell stated…
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 1:46pmVery true. Can you imagine where this country would be without Rush, Glenn or Fox News?
Report Post »blue_sky
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:12pm@Ookspay, sure if our politicians listened to Ron Paul back in 1970s till now.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:10pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOs1m5QqaHg – explains everything. Herman Cain didn’t have special people to figure out the collapse was coming while he was chairman of the FED…
Report Post »but Ron Paul, he must have had TEAMS of people, because he figured it out before it happened in 2003. Wake up people. You are looking for George Washington when we have Thomas Jefferson right here… Ron Paul 2012.
The10thAmendment
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:45pm@ Ookspay
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 1:46pm
Very true. Can you imagine where this country would be without Rush, Glenn or Fox News?
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I never listen to Rush Limbaugh. He screeches too much. Love Glenn Beck. Fox news more everyday becomes a mouth puppet for “political tolerance” of the progressive/communists in Washington. I think that Hannity wants to be a Conservative but he’s entirely too stupid to know the truth. O’Reilly is a progressive shill.
Why do you think Beck is no longer on that “News” channel? Because by his very nature of taking the truth head on, he exposes the paradigm shift Fox is part of forcing down America’s throats.
Report Post »jedidiah
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:48pm@OOKSPAY
And about these clowns at FOX News . . . . .
I haven’t watched them in months. Haven’t missed a thing. If you want to cover everything each day, read CNSNews, Pajamas Media (especially), Drudge, Blaze, Big Government, Big Journalism. To cover the opinions, get both sides at Real Clear, then the thoughtful stuff at American Thinker, American Spectator, NewsMax, and the leftist drivel at Saloon, Motherless Jones, and the New Repulsive. For comedy, Moveon.moron and The Daily Kooks.
Spend an hour or so browsing there each day and there’s absolutely no need to ever turn on FOX at all. Think about what they offer. The Eight PMer is among the most professionally and intellectually lazy men in television; he knows nothing of the constitution, the law, or economics, but he sure thinks he does. Hannity — True conservative, but do you ever learn anything new? Same every night, conservative vs. leftist loon, predictable questions, more predictable answers, and he worships the “Architect” of the destruction of the GOP, Karl Rove. Greta is a liberal more interested in gossip than substance. Bret Baier — RINO who hosts a panel consisting of two libs, a Weekly Substandard RINO, and the brilliant CK, who will go RINO at the drop of a hat; are there no Jim DeMints available ever. Shemp is a lib and Wallace bends over backwards to appear fair and balanced unless he’s goading conservatives.
Tell me what I gain at FOX; at least I get to laugh at the fools at M
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 4:17amWatch Paul do a dance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKBlk1Vpeuw
Report Post »COASTIE90
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:12pmIt’s better to be associated with the Koch brothers than Bill Ayers, Louis Farakan, Rev Wright, Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin, Jospeh Stalin, Van Jones, need I say more. Go Herman Cain, keep up the good showing, you’ve got the left worried.
Report Post »Drakkhanlord
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:22pmBS , tired of picking lesser of 2 evils…How about some that follows the Constitution of the Republic and actually gives a dam about the Citizens…
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 1:05pmoh, you mean Ron Paul.. but, the media thinks he’s crazy.. so he must be.. you know.. the media never lies…
Anyone who has read The Bible knows Ron Pauls policies… Ron is the only one who actually does follow the constitution and respects the republic… people are afraid he’s going to do stupid stuff, he PROMISES he will go through CONGRESS for everything. 0 executive orders. that says everything about him. he RESPECTS “The People” and the process. If “we” truly want the fed ended, congress will vote it so… otherwise it won’t be… he’s not a dictator. all these other candidates are acting and talking like dictators, the same as obama… i think everyone one of them except Ron has said they “Will write an executive order to repeal obamacare”… Ron Paul says he will have a vote and it will be repealed legally. Anyone willing to use an executive order, no matter the intent, is acting like a dictator and ignoring “The People”. The “Well Meaning” people out there are the cause of most of our problems…
Report Post »stopspendingourmoney
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 1:20amThe problem I have with Herman Cain he is a former federal reserve chairman, and does not see the fed as a problem and does not think it needs to be audited, I find this strange, doesn’t anyone else think this is a problem?
I am still with Ron Paul audit this corrupted private banking system we call the fed it is the core of all that is corrupt in Washington.
Ron Paul 2012 its time to restore America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAkeFJXwUk
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on October 18, 2011 at 2:43amWatch out, President Obama. Here comes “the Herminator.”
Report Post »A new Rasmussen tracking poll shows Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain leading Obama, 43 to 41 percent, in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup.
Tankertony
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:12pmOnly racists notice his skin color. We here in the Tea Party love his ideas.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:25pmWell put.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 1:23pmwhy is Cain not a racist, he mentions skin color more than anyone.
He shouldn’t say he is a “Black American”. he’s an “American”.
is he black? yeah… so what, that has nothing to do with nationality… it has to do with genetics…
To say “White American”, “Black American”, “Brown American”, “Red American”, “Yellow American” is to seperate Americas. “Americans” who are born of 2 legal Americans are natural born Americans. If you are born of parents holding 2 seperate nationalities then you will have to make your choice, and thus are NOT “naturally” a citizen of any particular nation. you can say, “African American” if you have a dad who is a legal citizen of Africa and a mom who is a legal citizen of America and you live with your dad. If you live with your mom, you are an “American African”… if they both reside in America but both are not American citizens, then you can call yourself whatever combination of those 2 nations you want, but you will never be “naturally” any nation at birth, you HAVE to choose later… “naturally” means, there is no question about which nationality you are because BOTH of your parents are that nationality… by definition of the words, themselves…
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 1:26pmSpeak for yourself. I’m a Tea Party member who thinks this man is absolutely crazy if he thinks a Fractional Reserve Banking System where foreigners lend us our money to the tune of $14 trillion+ is something that can be “fixed” without being entirely abolished.
Return the power to lend money back to the United States. Stop allowing China and other foreign countries to lend to us through the PRIVATE Federal Reserve.
The only way to fix this is to abolish the Fed and return to sound currency. That means backing our money with tangible assets, not the promise that the Fed, Treasury, and IRS will tax its citizens into the soil and devalue our currency to pay fiat debt with fiat paper.
Executive Order 11110.
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:04pm@ jb.kibs
Why is Cain not a racist, he mentions skin color more than anyone?
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Not to oversimplify, but I think Cain is trying to appeal to the ignorant bastardos that voted for Obama in order to gain their vote. Some people are too stupid to think for themselves. Cain knows this. If Obama can use stupidity to gain the electoral masses to further impose dependency and apathy, then why cant Cain use the same approach to remove it?
Cain’s strength – Diagnose the problem, and apply the correct measures to solve it.
Remember, Obama is half white. Cain is all black. This could be used as a powerful tool later in the campaign process. I’m keeping an eye out for it.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:51pmTSUNAMI, he’s already alienated the “ignorant bastardos” by as much as calling them that. “Using his race” isn‘t in the cards as he’ll never be nominated by the right. It‘s no coincidence that big Republican money hasn’t come his way. 9-9-9 is a regressive-redistributive tax plan, and like you see above, those who get it don’t like it. Too bad, because we’d love seeing him on stage with President Obama schooling him on “Uzbeki-beki-beki-stan-stan” and other foreign policy, addressing that regressive 9-9-9 tax plan, talking about child labor laws, comparing Social Security with the Chilean model that Cain advocates, comparing their immigration policies, etceteraetcetera. #Winning! :^)
Report Post »tjfletch01
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:11pmI have been saying for years that the term African American was used as a way to seperate the races and if you and your family were born and raised here for generations then you indeed are a Black American
Report Post »NOTYERHUCKLEBERRY
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:18pmHow about if you were born here, you are an American? Your way still notices color and/or race.
Report Post »jokar
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:51pmReally, I don’t call myself a “White American”. Tired of all the labels and divisions. We are all different in our looks and coloring, but we are all Americans.
Report Post »Tusker
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:55pmHaving been born in Africa and living in Africa, the term African American in the United States largely gives Africans a bad name! If they truly want to be Africans, I suggest they go visit the continent. I love Africa, but I love this country more. You can never fully appreciate the country until you travel abroad to third world nations.
Report Post »Tusker
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:56pmCorrection: Having LIVED in Africa. I no longer live there but would go back to visit.
Report Post »oftheWay
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:48pmBecause color exist and it will always exist and there’s nothing wrong with pointing it out. It’s the ignorant presuppositions and stereotypes that need to go.
Report Post »VerySeniorCitizen
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:07pmOK, why are Irish Americans, Italan Americans, Greek Americans, Chinese Americans, etc. etc. are STILL quite proud of their heritage? Obviously Cain is not!
Report Post »jcizarter
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:09pmWould it be possible for me to prefer “ White American ” ? I‘m just sayin’
Report Post »GPS-Tech
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:11pmI am hispanic but I prefer to call myself a TEXAN.
Report Post »Ronald Wilson
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:42pmWell put, fellow Texan. Racism won’t be tolerated around me.
Report Post »Now, if you aren’t from the Great State, you are clearly an inferior human being… ;)
Doug in Seattle
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:47pmHow about just plain vanilla AMERICAN?
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:09pmSo Gregory (the leftwing tool) can’t understand that you have state taxes now and will have state taxes after 999 would be implemented as well ? Now Gregory suddenly taking the side of country club Republicans and limousine liberals who also like things just the way they are. If the democrat and Republican establishments hate Cain’s 999 plan then it is exactly the right thing to do.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:38pmCain’s plan stinks to high heaven with the addition of a national sales tax in addition to the national income tax. Bachman is so very right that the devil is in the details and good luck trying to get rid of a national sales tax.
I am getting sick of his arrogance when people try to question him on his plan. Cain is Obama 2.0 and I won’t vote for the arrogant SOB. He is an American not Black American. I am so sick and tired of people talking about race. Our country is trillions in debt and this guy keeps playing the race card to his advantage. I refuse to live through 4 more years of this garbage.
Report Post »nationalcalvin
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 7:50pm@SLR
Actually his tax plan is brilliant. You just can‘t see it because you’re so in love with one candidate that it’s clouding your judgement.
Report Post »1.The price of goods won’t go up. His 9% sales tax will replace the on average of 20% imbedded taxes you already pay on goods.
2.It will eliminate the payroll tax. So the 9% income tax, even if you don’t pay any Federal income taxes will almost be a wash with the elimination of the payroll tax. Everyone will be bringing alot more pay home with every paycheck.
3.Business will have the most competitive tax rate in the world.
4.The elimination of captital gains will encourage investment. By business and individual Americans.
5.If implemented, this plan would create the greatest economic boom in American history.
6.His plan is designed to be revenue neutral this year. Once the economy begins to grow year in and year out the revenue received by the government will also continue to grow. Which will give us the oppurtunity to start actually paying down National debt.
7. It will take a two-thirds majority in the senate to raise the rates.
8. This is the only plan that could save America. If something drastic doesn’t happen soon this Country is going to collapse. If another Republican wins with one of their trim around the hedges plans, They will just be residing over the economic ruin of this Country.
unbecoming
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:08pmHerman Cain Bio continued
He did all this starting from rock bottom (his father was a chauffeur and
his mother was a maid). When you add up his accomplishments in his
life-including reaching the top of three unrelated industries: information
systems, business management, and banking-Herman Cain may have the most
impressive resume of anyone that has run for the presidency in the last half
century.
This is what America needs. A manager..a leader.Someone who has the skill set,knowledge,and the brass to get it done.He understands you can’t please everyone but – if you love America,you’re honest,and do what‘s best for the majority of the country you’re doing the right thing.
This man is someone that we really should watch and highly consider.Has the establishment pissed you off yet? Well here’s a good chance to return the favor.
Herman Cain is the antidote for the obama virus.
Report Post »Semper4everSemper
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:07pmMr. Cain could be a true revolutionary figure if he immediately announced “I am now declaring myself to be the VERY FIRST Black/African-American to reject all identifiers other than simply AMERICAN”. Now THAT would set him apart. Pretty soon we’ll have all whites insisting on being identified as “White/Euro-American”. Americans this WILL BE THE END. JUST like Teddy Roosevelt predicted (I know he was a progressive R.)
Report Post »jokar
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:53pmI like that idea!
Report Post »Hickory
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 2:12pmIf I considered myself a hyphenated American, I would have a moniker a whole page wide. But, I am not a stereotyped whatever. I am an American and damn well proud of it.
Report Post »unbecoming
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:02pmHerman Cain
* He was also chairman of the National Restaurant Association during
this time. This is a group that interacts with government on behalf of the
restaurant industry, and it gave him political experience from the
non-politician side.
Having reached the top of a second industry, he changed careers again!
* Adviser to the Federal Reserve System. Herman Cain went to work for
the Federal Reserve Banking System advising them on how monetary policy
changes would affect American businesses.
* Chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank. He worked his way
up to the chairmanship of a regional Federal Reserve bank. This is only one
step below the chairmanship of the entire Federal Reserve System (the top
banking position in the country). This position allowed him to see how
monetary policy is made from the inside, and understand the political forces
that impact the monetary system.
After reaching the top of the banking industry, he changed careers for a
fourth time!
* Writer and public speaker. He then started to write and speak on
Report Post »leadership. His books include Speak as a Leader, CEO of Self, Leadership is
Common Sense, and They Think You’re Stupid.
* Radio Host. Around 2007-after a remarkable 40 year career-he started
hosting a radio show on WSB in Atlanta (the largest talk radio station in
the country).
Bluebonnet
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:31pmMy greatest dislike of Obama is his cow-towing to the Communist, Marxist type people, hung around them in college, learned from them, became buddies with them. Seems to approve of the ones who blew up buildings in NY, (Dorn & Ayres) listened for years to a so called pastor who condemned (GD AMERICA) All his friends seem to be Chicago Thugs, black panthers and others who want to overthrow America (and doing a good job of it so far, under Obama’s rule.)
I love Herman Cain for the honest, forthright man he is, who has more ability than in Obama’s little finger, to run this Country and put us on the right path again, without all the marxist in the White House advising him.
Report Post »I love Herman Cain’s business sense. I love his commitment to this Country. I love that he’s a man of God (just what me need for a change) I love that he speaks with authority and doesn’t waffle.
I‘m tired of all the ’ole politicians who nurture their careers more than standing for our Country, who are so narcissistic they’re more interested in themselves rather than the good of the Country. The ones who listen to Communists tell him what we should do to control “the people.” Yup! We’ve been under control for some time, losing our freedom and ability to live as a free Nation. We need Cain.
YES WE CAIN
Cruzan
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:01pmCain is a man of character, and the only ones noticing his skin color are the far leftists like Bill Mahere, Sean Penn. Chris Matthews, and a lot of other so called intekigent idiots on the left. Conservatives heeded MLKs advice to jnot judge a man by the color of his skin, but by the character of his soul. I would support Caiin even if he was green. As for the term “Afrixan-American”, Jesse Jaxkarse coined it about 30 years ago and it stuck, but it is assbackwards as usual with him. An African-Americana would have been BORN in Africa and became an Smerican citizen. Those born here would be called American-Africans. Same with all nationalities. ASmerican-Irish or whatever. If they were BORN here, they are Americans first and foremost. They should just be Americansl, period. No reason to label themselves with their grandparents lkineage.
Report Post »unbecoming
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:01pmHerman Cain is running for President. He’s not a career politician (in fact he has never held political office). He‘s known as a ’pizza guy’, but there’s a lot more to him. He’s also a computer guy, a banker guy, and a rocket scientist guy.
Here’s his bio:
* Bachelor’s degree in Mathematics.
* Master’s degree in Computer Science.
… * Mathematician for the Navy, where he worked on missile ballistics
(making him a rocket scientist).
* Computer systems analyst for Coca-Cola.
* VP of Corporate Data Systems and Services for Pillsbury (this is the
top of the ladder in the computer world, being in charge of information
systems for a major corporation).
All achieved before reaching the age of 35. Since he reached the top of the
information systems world, he changed careers!
* Business Manager. Took charge of Pillsbury’s 400 Burger King
Report Post »restaurants in the Philadelphia area, which were the company’s poorest
performers in the country. Spent the first nine months learning the business
from the ground up, cooking hamburger and yes, cleaning toilets. After three
years he had turned them into the company’s best performers.
* Godfather’s Pizza CEO. Was asked by Pillsbury to take charge of
their Godfather’s Pizza chain (which was on the verge of bankruptcy). He
made it profitable in 14 months.
* In 1988 he led a buyout of the Godfather’s Pizza chain from
Pillsbury. He was now the owner of a restaurant chain. Again he reached the
top of the ladder
I_CARRY_1_TOO
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:00pmI have been thinking that it should Black American instead of African American for years. Then sooner or later they would just drop the black part and be simply American. Herman Cain seems to be a rational, fair, and intelligent American!
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:39pmWhy not just black? I assume that most of the people you find in America are Americans. I don’t go around calling myself a white American Earth human because it’s unnecessary.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:56amThank you, Mr. Herman Cain!
May GOD BLESS AND PROTECT YOU, LEAD AND GUIDE YOU IN HIS WAY above all else.
In JESUS’ name, amen.
BLAZERS ~~~ This just in: Why don’t we all and each (or in groups) go to the edges of our cities and towns, communities and neighborhoods and STAND for GOD and for AMERICA IN PRAYER right now!
Yesterday I had an amazing opportunity to stand smack dab in the middle of the street at the edge of my little community and pray OUT LOUD upon hearing that the “occupy whatever” group was on its way to our town. I just stopped in my tracks, turned around and prayed asking GOD to protect our precious community.
Been thinking about that off and on for the past twenty something hours and I believe GOD is giving this as a sign to us. We are to go now and pray for our communities, our country, our churches, our families, our neighbors. Drive up and down the streets praying. Nobody needs to know or they can all know, however GOD tells you to pray. Do it, and do it now. So you miss a few hours of football. What’s more important? When you walk your route, or run it, pray for all along that route and for GOD’s intervention and protection.
DO IT!
Report Post »garyM
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:03pmkickagrandma……Good advice and Godly advice!
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:39pmGrandma, I pray constantly for our Country and the right person to be in charge. It‘s Herman Cain and I’m so happy. Told my 97 yr old mom to watch him this morning on some program and she couldn‘t wait to call back to tell me she’s in love with who and what he is. She doesn‘t get extended cable TV and hasn’t yet been able to see any debates, so this was a first for her.
Our Republican TV managers need to put the debates on more stations so people from all over the country can see them. Even my sis in another state called and said she could’nt get the last debate.
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 5:08pmKICK- “BLAZERS ~~~ This just in: Why don’t we all and each (or in groups) go to the edges of our cities and towns, communities and neighborhoods and STAND for GOD and for AMERICA IN PRAYER right now! ”
I’ll stand with you as a fellow American.
Report Post »runloganrun
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:55amI would like to hear him refer to himself as Mr. President in 2012.
Report Post »peaches1
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:50amHow about American.
Report Post »hi
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:50amOnly in the US are dark skinned people called African. If you go to other countries they don’t know what you are talking about.
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:47amand the blacks think he is to white, well they really have not looked at obama, i like hermain cain,it is to bad they want to vilify him for being a black conservative and will stand with known communist,raciest anarchist just to get a vote for obama, what a shame that our president is allowing his base to divide this great country into,with his class warfare and his race war fare,it really is sad to see them trying to start a war over color and money but as i posted earlier, obama is the face of these people and this will be his down fall, not matter how hard he tries,he will always be labeled a communist supporter,he can try and vilify all he wants, people are waking up to the fact that he will do and allow what ever is needed to get reelected,if that means standing with commies and anarchist and letting his union base help destroy the moral fabric of this great country. i just hope herman cain wil not give in and start to change who he is just for a vote.we need more like him.
Report Post »Land of Confusion
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 12:46amI also hope he doesn’t give in.. Unfortunately, should Cain be in the running and it‘s close but he doesn’t have the votes he needs from certain groups then he, like anybody else who’s trying to get elected would do, will more than likely “adapt” his views to get those needed votes..
Report Post »whatthecrazy
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:46amThe more they hate him the more i like him ……………go Cain looks like you are our best hope
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:14pmRight on! You know it just occurred to me, all these so called prominent black leaders condemning Herman Cain for not being Black Enough, need to examine themselves.
They’ve all embraced our muslim liar, President who has no idea what being a black man means.
He embraces his Muslim father and had a sense of grievance and animosity against his mother’s race. (This taken from his book, (”Dreams from my father.”) He said maybe she’s too white.
From his book, “Audacity of Hope” He said he’d stand with the Muslims, should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. Hmmm? I want a President who will stand with Americans folks, how about You?
Report Post »sgmwlc
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:43amLukerW – Agreed! You’re an American – no coloring needed!
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:05pmRight on! I look at Herman Cain as an American and really don‘t notice he’s black, white or purple.
I called my 97 yr. old mom this morning to watch Herman on some Sunday morning program because she’s not been able to watch the debates.
She called back to let me know “SHE LOVES HERMAN CAIN” and that’s her candidate, regardless, because she loves the way he answers with determination and truth and confidence. I love him too.
Want to find a bumper sticker that says, “YES WE CAIN” and it’s the first time I will ever display a bumper sticker for any candidate for anything. Also want a Yard sign, may have to make my own.
Report Post »Herman is the first person since Goldwater or Reagan I’ve had so much confidence in. Love ‘em.
YES HE CAN. With such a disaster in Obama, anyone would be better, but Cain is best, trust me.
G.E.R
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:43amHe’s just a mouth piece for Koch brothers
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:48amAnd your proof is where? Nowhere, because you are just saying what you are told to say. Polly want a *******?
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:51amhow is it possible for you to be talking with your mouth full ?
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:51am@GER – And your mouth piece is at the other end of your alimentary canal.
Report Post »Greenwood
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:51am999 means everybody pays their fair share not just the 53%
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:54amand obama is the mega phone for george soros,and the communist party and the anarchist party code pink,weather under ground,storm and known terrorist so ,i think i would rather stand with the koch brothers than any of those anti america,anti freedom,pro communism groups, so that would make you a supporter of the communist regime, i would say i feel sorry for you,but not really,you choice to sleep in that bed,
Report Post »shorthanded12
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:54amG.E.R. = George Economic Recovery = George Soros T R O L L
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:57amCOFemale,
Report Post »My parrot, Willie says he resents that and thinks you should apologize. (-;
drattastic
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:59amOh please knucklehead, is that all you have. You parrots on the left have about 6 responses to every issue . Was that your pick for this one , surprised you didn’t break out “racist” ,oh wait he’s black so “uncle Tom” then . Pathetic.
Report Post »G.E.R
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:00pmSo the fact that his camoaign manager and a number of his aides worked for the Koch brothers is just a coincidence
Report Post »Cruzan
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:06pmLike Obama being the whore of Wall Street, Unions, the black community and every other anti-American group he can fine? He took nearly $400 MILLION in donations from Wall Street brokers in 2008, and is getting less this time. And he plans to use the OWS idiots to attack the GOP with it. LOL He is such a hypocrit.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:10pmG.E.R is a Paulie. Don‘t y’all recognize the tactics?
Report Post »hi
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:14pmI just binged them. Koch brothers love America and are trying to save it from the idiot marxists/communists/socialists. What’s wrong with that? Go Koch bros! Meanwhile you ignore all of Obamas dirty ties and support protestors saying “F America?”
Report Post »papaweez
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:29pmSo GER I guess its only those that you oppose that have taken money from corporations and the influential rich in our political spectrum? Stop the finger pointing and name calling, have an argument and a point and speak it with intelligence and back it up with facts! Here endeth the lesson.
Report Post »G.E.R
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:33pmReading all the comments on here about political, social, and cultural issues. I’ve noticed most of them reflect an underlying belief that somehow things were better once and that with just a little effort you could set them right again. You’re looking for solutions, and rooting for particular results, and that makes you a funny people. But you’re nothing more than cheerleaders attached to a specific, wished-for outcome. And that is what I find so amusing. Watching the slow circling of the drain by a once promising country, and the sappy, ever-more-desperate belief in this country that there is actually some sort of “American Dream,” which has merely been misplaced. The decay and disintegration of this culture is astonishingly amusing if you are emotionally detached from it.
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:50pm@G.E.R…K
Report Post »Your concerned about the past ,let me tell you about the near future, your President ,your senate and your ideology are going bye bye next November .
Erabin
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 1:18pmIf I judge this right, G.E.R is an accelerationist, someone hoping for the negative changes this country has been going through since the 80s to accelerate, making it come down faster and harder and hoping that America 2.0 which may rise from the ashes is going to be a better place. Can‘t see why he wouldn’t be endorsing Cain, really.
Report Post »Marine Recon Dad
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:42amGood for you, Mr. Cain. I’m an American first…..
Report Post »snackrabbit
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:41amQuite a nasty combination of GOP establishment and the normal vicious left going after Cain now… A man with these enemies has my vote! Time to show the establishment the door.
Report Post »Down2TheC
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:46amTrue… sounds a lot like the list of folks bad mouthing the Tea Party.
Report Post »The Bushmaster
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:40amJust think of all the tax money the state governments double and triple dip on used cars! You take a 40K car bought new this year. mich collects 6% sales tax. Next year it is traded in and resold for 35K Mich collects another 6% and so on and so on….. I say once the goods are sold there should be no future sales tax.
Report Post »Cat
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:09pmBushMaster …
Posted this in another thread
The problem with 999 is, we DO NOT have a national sales tax now.
If 999 goes into effect, we will have a NEW tax
Congress will botch it up in the future, that’s guaranteed, by increasing all taxes, including the new national sales tax.
The only way to make taxation equal is to have a national sales tax on everything except housing and ANYTHING associated with healthcare, and NO income tax AT ALL, including corporate tax on profits.
Income tax is a Marxist idea in the first place, it’s right out if the Communist Manifesto (READ IT)
The federal government has taken our money for years and managed to make it their personal funding, and right, to use our money, that they have stolen, anyway they see fit, and right now, the federal government (and some local governments) see it fit to launder tax dollars for campaigning.
The entire IRS should be shut down for no other reason other than the taxpayer no longer wishes to contribute to criminal activity.
Report Post »Most accountants are enablers to the IRS.
If you don’t pay, you can, and WILL loose EVERYTHING you have worked for.
An income tax is NOT American.
ANY income tax is counter productive because it taxes productivity and creativity.
A NEW sale tax on top of income taxation will be a disaster.
SamIamTwo
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:21pmThey tax everything but the air you breath. urrmm not so sure about that either…
I wanna know if the Cain 999 plan taxes retirement annuities, cause I know I will pay more under Cain’s proposal.
An end item consumption tax would be OK with me…and business can afford more than 9%…and rich people can afford more than 9%….cain’s plan will create more class warfare as the rich get richer and poor get poorer.
I like the man but I do not understand his 999 plan. He needs to come out and give more details…and his web page does not give enough details to settle me down. And our conservative Fox news have not asked the real questions that cause the middle class to have concern over this plan.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 1:28pmCat,
We do have a national “sales” tax, they call it Income Tax. With 999 the income tax eventually goes away as do capital gains taxes and the death tax among others. The 999 is just an interim place holder for the Fair Tax.
So, 999 gets you to the NO INCOME TAX in the Fair Tax model. You keep all of your money in your paycheck and pay only if you buy new goods or services. Under the fair tax people making less than x amount get a “pre-bate” to cover the cost of necessary items such as food. No income tax, no capital gains tax, no corporate payroll tax = NO IRS.
Going to a no income tax system is a big change from where we are now. It cannot be done overnight (or, I think in 4 years). There are a few bills that will need to be paid regardless of what the exact system of revenue generation, such as the interest on the debt we have already accrued, current Social Security obligations and military payroll those don’t just magically disappear. Then there is the issue of letting go some 1 million government workers, accountants, tax attorneys etc, and allowing large accounting firms like Accenture and Deloitte and Tuche and their employees time to re-locate themselves (probably overseas).
No taxes at all sounds great but there is a lot involved and cannot be solved with a waving of a wand.
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 3:59pmCat
A NEW sale tax on top of income taxation will be a disaster.
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You can count on it.
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:44pmCAT
You are the voice of Sanity. You should run for President. I do not understand all of this emotional support for Cain. The 999 plan is very suspect. If you are going to implement a national sales tax you then should remove the income tax. You should never have both.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:36amCitizens of the USA… are Americans… not Ethnic/Race hyphenated Americans!
Report Post »liberalismisacancer
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:45amya…. how many of these guys are actually from Africa?
Report Post »oh…. forgot about b hussein soetoro oblamer
CatB
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:46amAgree . but that is all the Dems have right now .. divide Americans .. put them all into little groups and pander to them. That they are attacking Herman Cain’s “blackness” while supporting a 1/2 black 1/2 white Obama who’s black family stayed in Africa (you do know that slaves were sold into slavery by other blacks in Africa right?) shows it is not about “color” but ideology!
Cain/Rubio 2012
TEA!
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:49amat least that was the way it had been, but sadly, obama has made it about money and color,really sad to see.
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 11:53amI understand what you are trying to say, but you need to understand Herman Cains statement. Most blacks refer to themselves as African American, except that phrase seems taboo with them now. I used the term in another forum was called a bigot; go figure. I can never keep up. As Cain said he is using the race with American to discount the African roots part; that is all. Of course, this is my opinion and in no way speaks for Cain.
Of all the candidates, he is the only one who has come up with a stated plan. All the other candidates just pay lip service at a hint of a plan. They do not want to commit to anything and in my book, this is no different than Democrats. Take a stand, own it, or shut up. Cain has done this.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 12:21pmI do not need to understand anyone’s interpretation. If you claim to be a member of some separate group from Equal (Oppertunity; Rights [Constitutional]) Americans then you may have an agenda that I do not agree with. Do not get me wrong, I like Cain more than other Candidates, but I will not replace a Radical/Leftist with another Socialist!
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 16, 2011 at 4:29pmI don’t think people understand what it means to be American.
Being American means I can call myself whatever I want to call myself, and the most American thing you can do is allow me to define myself and not attempt to define me to fit your ideology or ulterior motives.
If I want to call myself African American or Black American, etc., that’s my prerogative.
Report Post »TrailerParkDave
Posted on October 17, 2011 at 11:40amamen
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