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Herman Cain: Mitt Romney’s Mormonism May Be 2012 Barrier

Herman Cain Mitt Romney MormonismWhen it comes to faith and religion, Herman Cain makes his personal beliefs known. In fact, the former CEO of Godfather’s Pizza is so upfront that he often encounters criticism, if not instant reaction, to his religious commentary. From Islam to Mormonism, Cain has been more than willing to discuss the electoral and policy impacts he believes these faith systems pose.

On Monday, The Blaze reported on the GOP presidential candidate’s statement that Americans should be able to ban mosques in their local communities. And, last week, he voiced his opposition to once such mosque in Tennessee. These are only two examples, of course. While many of Cain’s highly-publicized comments about faith and religion have focused upon Islam, he decided to take on Mitt Romney’s faith in a Washington Times interview published yesterday.

During the interview, TPM reports that Cain “made an issue” of Romney’s religion. Cain claimed that he would be the better choice and said that Romney’s religion would be a problem with a large segment of the voter base:

I know the South and you have to win the South. Mitt Romney didn’t win the South when John McCain won the South and Mike Huckabee won the South. And I think that the reason he will have a difficult time winning the South is when he ran the first time he did not do a good job of communicating his religion.

In Cain’s view, Romney’s religion teamed with RomneyCare will collectively impede the former Massachusetts governor’s chances of securing the nomination. The Times, though, writes that current polls show Romney is faring well in the south:

However, Mr. Romney is polling well in the South, according to the latest round of surveys.

A just-released American Research Group poll in South Carolina, one of the first four states on the official primary calendar, has Mr. Romney leading, with support from 25 percent of the sample of 600 likely Republican primary voters.

Watch Cain‘s statements on Romney’s Mormonism below:

Over the weekend, we reported on Adam Christing’s new, controversial documentary, “A Mormon President,” which asks: Is America ready for a Mormon president? While Cain says the South isn’t, current polling data paint a different picture.

What do you think about Cain‘s comments about Romney’s faith and its potential impact on the 2012 election?

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  • Mr. Oshawott
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:20pm

    It seems that Herman Cain has misconstrued the fact that it was RomneyCare that damaged Mitt Romney’s chance at running for President, not his religion.
    Speaking of that, isn’t using religion to promote your campaign a violation of Article VI of the Constitution?

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    • tketterer
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 3:07pm

      Yes, if it was a religion and not a cult

       
    • CicerosGhost
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 3:12pm

      He made no comment regarding his faith except a doubt that Romney can effectively communicate to those that do not share it and that such represents a political obstacle, for him.

      The headline, that Cain criticizes Romney’s faith as an obstacle to election, is a gross distortion of Mr. Cain’s actual statement.

      It seems that an artificial narrative is being constructed; that Herman Cain is a religious bigot.

      Don’t fall for it.

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    • LibertyGoddess
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 3:13pm

      I can’t stand Evangelicals. They are messing this up for all of us. We are going to lose this election. Shut up Herman.

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    • dont tread
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 3:21pm

      @TKETT
      There’s very little separating you from “intollerant muslims”. The only thing you need is sticks of dynamite!

      @Liberty
      Agreed, when you make religion part of your platform, you’re bound to alienate many people. Being socially conservative is one thing, a “strong christian for president” is something else.

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    • tketterer
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 3:28pm

      @dont tread, I am tolerant of all mormons I know who either won’t do the research or continue to believe the lies.

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    • kevinkruis
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 3:46pm

      What clause or words in article VI makes you claim this?

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    • libertyerdeath
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 3:47pm

      A.B.O.

      Anybody but Obama!

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    • HankScram
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 4:28pm

      Article VI comments are silly. Article VI means the government cannot set a religious test. In other words, a person cannot be prevented from running for President based on their faith.

      If people do not want to vote for someone because they think the candidates religion is silly or shows the candidate is following a deceitful religion, then the people are free to reject that candidate – not vote for him. Many people refuse to vote for Mitt Romney because they believe the mormon church is not a christian church or because they believe Joseph Smith was a con artist. That has nothing to do with Article VI. For people who are always referencing the constitution, you’d think they would know that. Figures.

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    • agameofthrones
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 4:30pm

      TKETTERER: I don’t know too many cults with over 13 million members in almost every country around the world. Romney’s biggest problem is not his faith, it’s his policies. Why do evangelicals think their brand of Christianity is the only acceptable one? There are people who believe in Jesus Christ who are good Christians, and love their neighbors and serve their communities. Why vote for or against the guy because his religious views are different from yours? What are his values, his policies, and leadership skills? Would he lead our country in the right direction. Does he believe in the values and principles this country was founded on and would he uphold and defend the Constitution? Those questions are much more important than what brand of Christian he is.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 4:44pm

      Herman Cain may not be a religious bigot, but he sure does spend a lot of time whacking away at other people’s religions.

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 4:54pm

      What does his religion have to do with anything. I thought the religious test ended with JFK. Remember, people were shocked that a Catholic was elected President. People who use that as a determining factor in their decision either way belong with the “group” that many here believe should not be allowed to vote.

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    • CicerosGhost
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 5:06pm

      @ Lloyd Drako,

      No. He doesn’t spend a great deal of time “knocking other faiths”…..

      The various “news agencies” tend to spend an inordinate amount of their efforts covering (and distorting) his comments regarding other faiths…..

      There is a rather important distinction there.

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    • Darren
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 5:29pm

      TKETTERER;

      Wow, that didn’t take long. Second post seen on The Blaze and its “Mormonism’s a cult” statement. don’t you peope ever tire?

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    • thinkinghuman
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 6:14pm

      I do hate it when the media AND certain political wannabes from the South bring up religion as a litmus test. Like others have said, we have the most RADICAL man ever in the White House now, what’s the reason for bring up mormons like they are terrorists or something? Mormons are smart people who do not blow up themselves to get attention to a cause.

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    • Caniac Steve
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 6:28pm

      I mysewlf really don‘t have a moral or ethical reason to be concerned over Mitt’s denomination or it’s practices…my concerns are as others stated his health care plan while govenor and some of his business methodoligies that would call into question his political ethics & morals…hell I’d rather see the marxist Dali lama run fior president than Mitt…but while Cain has not made a strong case for himslef as of yet..but after Iowa,NH.and SC we‘ll all see who’s hot &who’s not and in or out…Cain could be a good VP candidate as well…as he had a very good Business track record and right now America needs a guy with his kind of backround…but i’m just a pizza loving oldy guy tax payer & Independent what would i know ?

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    • Contrarian51
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 6:30pm

      Sorry, Mr. Cain, I thought you had serious potential, but now it’s time to shut up.

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    • fastfacts
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 7:05pm

      ROMNEY CAN WIN, THE POLLS ALL SHOW IT…

      Though it is way to early to tell if he will win, it shows he can win. And he is gaining steam against Obama. More than any candidate.

      Time has already shown that he is not a RINO, he is right there with all of the other Republicans,and though we don’t agree on all things we have to work together. As Reagan’s 11th Commandment states, we fight the true enemy (Obama) not each other.

      Here are misconstrued rhetoric of the media that aren’t true.

      HEALTH CARE: His original health care plan was the most market based program of its time. His mandate was not what they have today, it was “you pay for insurance or you pay your own bill.’ He ended up vetoing 7 changes to his orignial bill and the 85% Congress voted them back in. (Read the bill and Heritage Foundation. Remember that it was Heritage that helped design the original bill, the one that Romney supported, pushed, and signed)

      GLOBAL WARMING: He does not believe in man-made global warming, he believes the earth has been warming and that it has been colder as well and that man has contributed, though “I don’t know how much”. He believe in deregulating the EPA and that they have destroyed their oiriginal intent: http://url2it.com/ftqq He joined the Regional green Movement like Chris Christie but in 2005 before it started, he got out of it because more information came out about what they were doing… aka Cap and Trade.

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    • fastfacts
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 7:05pm

      continuation from the first entry…

      GAY MARRIAGE: As governor he fought for an amendment to the Mass Constitution to defend traditional marriage and wrote op-eds about it making him one of the first governors to make it a national issue, not just in the state: http://url2it.com/ftqs

      ABORTION: It was in ‘94 when he fought against Sen. Ted Kennedy that he was supporting ‘the choice of women.’ Before becoming governor he had a change and during the election you could see the transition. As governor he fought for pro-life issues, was supported by pro-life groups, and fought in many issues such as against the morning after pill and forcing private hospitals to perform abortions.

      Where has he Flip Flopped, that could not be a simple change in heart? I don’t know his heart, do you?

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    • Mr. Oshawott
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 7:35pm

      @KevinKruis

      Article VI: General Provisions

      “…But no religious Test shall ever be required as a qualifcation to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”

      Whenever politcians use their religion of any sort merely as a political platform, they distance themselves from voters that may oppose it. In addition to that, it potentially opens the door of subjecting candidates to religious litmus tests.

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    • BlazingInSC
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 7:50pm

      @Mr. Oshwott – No, using your religion is not a violation. The article states that religion can’t be used as a requirement for qualification. In other words, people don’t have to be a specific religion in order to hold any federal office. It does not bar people from using their religion to pursuade voters. I encourage you to reread the text of the article.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 9:11pm

      Don’t you all see it the guys name is Herman Cain and
      the Mormons use to believe in the Curse of CAIN
      I could not make this stuff up…
      While the majority, if not all, of Cain’s descendants would have been killed in the great flood, according to Mormons from the late 19th to mid 20th century, Cain’s bloodline was preserved on the ark through Egyptus, wife of Ham (son of Noah). The Book of Abraham, accepted by Mormons as part of their canon, is the source of the story of this Egyptus who preserves “the curse…. as pertaining to the Priesthood” by surviving the flood as Ham’s wife. One must note, however, that in this canonized source no connection is made between her and Cain (her lineage is not given), nor is anything mentioned concerning her skin color. Thus, though Mormons combined the widespread belief that Cain’s curse was a blackness of skin with another idea common in Europe and America (that the curse of Ham for seeing his father’s nakedness was black skin), the idea that Ham’s wife preserved a curse of black skin inherited from Cain that was passed on is not canonized doctrine.[6] This interpretation is now generally rejected by mainstream Mormons.[7]

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 9:12pm

      The Mark of Herman CAIN ?????

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    • jhaydeng
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 9:28pm

      Herman you had me at Hello, but now……….

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    • tketterer
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 11:53pm

      @agameof…. Again you are repeating what is told by the general authorities that LIE. They say 13 million, but the accurate number is more like 1.3 mill when you take out the ones who have left the cult, but the cult hasn’t removed their names, plus the jack mormons, plus the ones that don’t attend or do anything in the cult at all. They lose 10% annually that can be accounted for. Look, we are talking about souls here. They stole a dear friend of mine’s daughter, but as I told them and her, i will do whatever it takes to save their souls. PERIOD!

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    • tketterer
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 11:55pm

      @Darren…Will never tire of showing what this cult is all about. Save your soul and walk away

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    • SeymourHiney
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 2:01am

      Technically it’s not a violation of Article VI. It only says that your religion is not required for office, it doesn’t say anything about whether you should use it or not.

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 2:10am

      Seems like “TKETTERER” is a member of a popular cult on The Blaze — the Anti-Mormon Cult.

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    • CurlyJ49
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 10:48am

      Oh boy here we go with the cult talk.
      Let‘s just get the whole they aren’t christian argument out there too despite the name of their church is The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints.

      Who really votes for president based on their faith anyway? You haters need to give it up.

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    • jfc1068
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 1:13pm

      Only hate monger call the LDS religion a cult. They typically do not even know that the present version of Christianity was created by a Roman pagan emperor in 300 AD.

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    • audiemurphy
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 4:29pm

      Religious beliefs should only become a factor in an election race if the secular views of that religion are contrary to the constitution and freedom of people’s rights or against the law.
      Other than that worship whoever whatever and wherever. If you are presidential material you might get elected. Obama got elected and look at his religion and he’s no good material!

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    • Eblaze44
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 5:11pm

      I despise religious bigots – and Herman Cain is one. He has lost my vote. I won’t vote for Romney either, and it‘s not because he’s a Mormon – it’s because he is a sleazeball. He is a corporate raider that sucked companies dry and threw them and their employees aside. Romney is also one of those that will say and do anything for his political ambitions. That he is a Mormon – so what – so is Harry Reid. Politics is it’s own religion – and for those of you that even think Congress will ever vote themselves term limits – think on that – they are fanatical about their religion – and not much else except the power and rush they get from it.

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    • NeePleaze
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 11:55pm

      Here in lies the problem. Mormonism is not a denomination of Christianity. Every other denomination of Christianity claim that Jesus Christ is “God” in the flesh. He is one of the member of the God-head. There is one God, which includes, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost, The Trinity. They believe that God was once a man and has been elevated to a God status. Not a single Christian believes that at all. Mormons believe that we can obtain a level of god-hood ourselves and actually be gods of other universes. The layers of extreme differences in the fundamental doctrines are so many, that to say the they are even romotely related is completely false. They may reference the name of Jesus Christ, but the definition that follows His name is not at all the same as what Christians believe. As with any cult, they have taken portions of a religion and tweaked it for the own benefit. Let me make this clear. The Jesus they believe in is not the same Jesus that Christians believe in. It is that simple. Now, that being said, are they bad people? No, they certainly are not. Are they off on their theology? It is my opinion and the opinion of every other Christian that indeed they are. Is it wrong to call them out on what we see as false doctrine that could ultimately have eternal ramifications? Of course not, if it is done in love. Don’t forget that Brigham Young and others made comments that followers of Christianity were decieved by Satan and evil.

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    • Mizurax
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:16am

      There are plenty of reasons why Romney shouldn’t be elected POTUS, but being Mormon isn’t one of them.

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    • Luckywon
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 7:44am

      Tketterer. I have read everything you have posted. So far, everything you have claimed to be truth about Mormons seems to be a lie. You have been making false generalizations, “Mormon men treat their women like crap”, false claims, “13 million members is more like 1.3 million.” and every time you say that you are arguing without hate in your heart you are Lying. You need to seek some help. I’ve gone to many different churches, including evangelical Christian ones. I have never been to a better church than the LDS Church. Please stop your lying and save your own soul. All you are doing is causing pain to other people.

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  • momprayn
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:19pm

    Doesn’t bother me that he said that — it’s probably true – for the South. But for the rest of the nation, don’t think so. I would guess most wouldn’t let his Mormonism be a factor — they would not vote for him for other reasons – such as being a RINO, his Romneycare deal, flip flops on abortion, etc.
    I remember when they had the same arguments re JFK’s Catholicism – it was a “big deal” — but he won anyway. Even though I like Cain, don’t think either he or Romney will be frontrunners later.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 3:46pm

      It seems llke every story I read about Cain is about him saying something rash, and there are always people rushing to his defense to point out that it’s not really as bad as it sounds. The problem is that guys like the Prime Minister of England and the Russian Ambassador probably don’t read the Blaze, so you don’t get to do spin control for him if he becomes President and says something intemperate to one of them.

      Also even if what he said is true, stating it is one of only two reasons to vote for him instead of Romney is not a good move. It weakens his claim that it doesn’t matter to him. If he says it at all it should be one of five or ten reasons to vote for him and he should only say it with seeming reluctance if directly asked.

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  • aandgc
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:19pm

    I don’t think think what he said was controversial at all. He made it clear that he doesn’t have a problem with his religion, but he thinks that some in the South will, due to Romney not speaking about his religion effectively last election. I like Herman Cain, I love the way he speaks his mind, you never have to wonder what he’s thinking, therefore, if he really did have a problem with mormonism, personally, he would just say it.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 6:26pm

      Isn’t he sort of living in a glass house? I hate to say it, but being black is still not exactly a plus in the South, at least not when you ‘re running against a black Democrat. There’s a bit of a logical disconnect in a black candidate implying that we just have to accept the reality of irrational prejudice and conform our expectations to it.

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    • Eblaze44
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 5:18pm

      why some in the south will. There are three wards and two church buildings in this small town. Oh yes, there are still a few fanatical Baptists and Evangelicals around, but most everyone that knows a Mormon has not one word bad to say about them – well – there is Harry Reid – but then there is often a bad apple in every group and a black sheep in every family. Most other sects are really only jealous of their faithfulness and the fact that they are still one of the fastest growing sects of Christianity in the world, while their fanaticism and bigotry continues to drive away parishioners.

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    • Bids
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 8:29pm

      That‘s what’s known as “poisoning the well”. “It doesn’t matter to ME, but. . . “

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  • Brontefan
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:13pm

    Harry Reid is a Mormon. I don’t see the problem.

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    • I.Gaspar
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:15pm

      No, Harry Reid is a MORON.

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    • flagkeeper
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:52pm

      It is hard not to think of Reid as one of those communist plants.

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    • NES
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 3:52pm

      Please don’t remind us. We call him “Judas Reid.”

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    • HairRazor
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 7:56pm

      Brontefan and I.Gaspar.. I think you’re both right. He’s a Moronic Mormon (culltist), Hell bent (as with the bho admin and most dems/progressives) on destroying the founders intent for this country.

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    • dat bee
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 11:23pm

      I am ashamed, as a Member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, that Harry Reid is known as a Mormon. He is not an shining example to the world of what we believe. I’m not all that proud of Romney either. Jon Huntsman Jr. has a wonderful father, the jury is out on Jr. for me.

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    • Eblaze44
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 5:20pm

      makes you wonder if he’s a “practicing” Mormon in good standing with his church.

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  • fastfacts
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:11pm

    DON’T TELL ME CAIN IS GETTING INTO THIS PATH…

    Yesterday a news anchor attacked Romney on his Christianity: http://url2it.com/ftqe

    NOTE: Did you see Romney come out and attack the EPA, calling to deregulate them: http://url2it.com/ftqf

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    • lemmings4obama
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:23pm

      Smart move Romney, I support that!

      http://youtu.be/tHlWdZgJcRY

      During an Environment and the Economy Subcommittee hearing, EPA Assistant Administrator Mathy Stanislaus admits to U.S. Rep. Cory Gardner that the EPA does not account for jobs when they issue regulations. April, 2011

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    • Bluegill
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 3:26pm

      I watched, a pretty weak answer, one the pollution in the US is down in EVERY category 70-90% over the last forty years, so the need to do anything more than we are doing is insane. Two, he is still touting solar, wind and ethanol. These are not working, there may be some applications for wind and solar, like on a sailboat but I don’t want to subsidize any of them. Solar and wind need complete backup systems and are expensive. Three, he said we have a 100 years of Natural gas, probably at least 250 years.
      My impression is that he never wants to tackle conventional wisdom, which drives me crazy.

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    • fastfacts
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 5:35pm

      Actually if you think of it he came out against the person that was praising him. He contradicted the guy that was probably would have been a voter. If he hadn’t written a book discussing this I would say it was a flip flop, but come to find out, it is what he has been saying for a long time.

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    • saranda
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 10:41pm

      So Bluegill, you want to just kick the ball down the road for generations after you have gone away. What the hell kind of planning is that. Solar and wind both have a place and need to be explored.
      And speaking as a guy from the oil patch, I disagree with your desire to focus on Nat Gas. You are very likely trading one problem for another as we have trouble with the water table in our extraction methods. Water is kind of important.

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  • cmr396
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:09pm

    Herman Cain simply said that he doesnt think romney can win since hes alreaddy lost before and ALSO because he believes Romney isnt open and explaining his religion enough to southerners. (who apparently feel religion is an important aspect). So where is the bigotry “STR8TALK”?

    Also, Herman Cain once again answered a question directly and clearly. Great job Mr. Cain!

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    • gramma b
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:26pm

      Romney may be polling well and getting a plurality of Republicans in the South, but I, a Mormon, think Cain is probably right that a lot a Evangelicals whose pastors spend a lot of time slamming Mormons will stay home if Romney gets the nomination.

      I also think there are important differences between Romneycare and Obamacare. For one, Romneycare was designed to keep insurance and provision of services in the private sector, while Obamacare is designed to destroy the private sector. But, I think those differences are hard to explain in a simple way.

      And, both have an individual mandate, which is what riles people up. But, the reason that the Heritage Foundation (a reliably conservative organization) proposed the individual mandate as part of Romneycare is that it is the only way to address the problem of free riders. I can’t think of another way. Can anyone else?

      In any event, Cain is just being honest. Bless his heart.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:32pm

      You have to read more than just the headline to come to the conclusion you came to. I think you are one of the few that did. He was criticizing his communication, not his religion.

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    • victoria_29
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 4:14pm

      a LOT of conservatives will stay home if Cain gets the nomination. And please do not let this phony I am a Christian fool you at best he is a Sunday pew warmer. I find his talking like he knows Evangelics so well sort of ridiculous since the man didn’t have a clue about Right of Return.

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    • Hemispheres
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 6:24pm

      GrammaB is right. There are too many church pastors/preachers worrying about what Mormons believe or don’t believe and use pretty nasty material to do it (although I’m sure most think they are doing a good deed). I never will understand why, if you believe that you have the truth, you would feel the need to waste valuable time and effort preaching anything but that. The sad truth is that too many on the religious right let doctrinal differences get in the way of working together and too many pastors preach politics from the pulpit. Quit crying about Mormonism, it isn’t going away. Deal with it.

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    • fastfacts
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 7:03pm

      The problem is Romney already has explained his faith and he could continue to do so until the end of the election, not much will change. There is a huge bigotry in the south against Mormons, I think it is better since Glenn Beck spoke out about his faith, but he is not a politician. If Cain was Mormon they would be even more against him. Sadly this bigotry is around, not from Cain, but from those of different religions and those especially from atheists.

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  • Mustangdave
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:05pm

    Didn’t they castigate John F. Kennedy for being Catholic? Gosh…and look what happened. He won. Give the religious angle a rest will ya folks

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    • teddrunk
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:56pm

      Yeah, he won, and he was a miserable excuse for a President.

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  • I.Gaspar
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:03pm

    I don’t like Romney because of Romneycare, his support of ethanol subsidies, and his belief that manmade global warming requires government intervention.
    Couldn‘t care if he’s a mormon.

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    • flagkeeper
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:52pm

      I.GASPAR said, “…his belief that manmade global warming requires government intervention…”

      Where in the world do you get your info from. If your are merely inferring that is what one must do if they think that man makes some contribution to climate change, you need not bother. He explains his positionin detail in his book written a couple of years ago. Cap and Trade? Absolutely not, nor anything like unto it. Energy independance ust be a given, whatever the solution includes, using nuclear, coal, clean coal, oil, oil shale, gas, ethanol from various sources not limited to corn, or whatever we can acquire on our own. Whatever the solution, it cannot kill our economy. Please do a little more research. He is no Ron Paul (not always a bad thing), but he is nothing like Obama (a good thing).

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    • dont tread
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 3:27pm

      Whether “manmade global warming” is real or not (most scientists believe it is), there is a growing need for clean energy as new economies are emerging…subsidies for this are a smart way to address this – I will probably be castigated for this, but anyone who thinks no government intervention is needed is a complete buffoon

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  • littlemule
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:00pm

    I’m a Mormon I would Vote for Mr. Cain any day of the week. I like the fact he speaks the Truth and is not afraid of it. Though I don’t agree with all his views( the mosque issue and a few others) but he is an honorable man that as a whole I agree with. No one is perfect. Romney too big gov. and too much of a polotician though honorable.

    I don’t know the current polls but if my memory is correct from the election it was almost 5 times more people would not vote for a Mormon than that of a black person 24% to 5% sad but true

    So there is definately merit to what he is saying, though most people might not admit it on the air

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    • lemmings4obama
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:12pm

      I agree with you Littlemule. How refreshing to have a candidate that says what he means and means what he says. Cain certainly was picking on Romney or Mormons. He just called it how he sees it. He probably won‘t win the primary just because he’s so open and not full of BS. Wish he had more of a political track record, but I really like how up front he is about EVERYTHING. Our current liar-in-chief could take some pointers form Cain for sure.

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    • flagkeeper
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 3:08pm

      No, he was not “picking on him”, but c’mon, this is political. Create a little doubt in the people who might be willing to hold their nose and vote for him. I don’t begrudge him this. Seems it would be the smart move at this point. I like Cain, too. I just hope he does not have any skeletons in his closet. That is how they get you, no matter how good your intentions were going into office…
      We need a CLEAN, as in dirt/skeleton free candidate with a conscience and a mind who is not so much an ovet idealogue, but a man who can look for the best solutions and consider them honestly, within the strict framework of the Constitution, and ithout fear of leverage being used againt them. I like West and hope he is what he appears to be. I think Romney also fits this mold, though I know many who disagree do not know, or care to know, enough truth about him to. I like Cain and hope he is clean, too. Honestly, I would be too afraid if any of the candidates got the nominee, if they are clean (except for Huntsman, I do not know much about hiim, yet). It took a while to get this ship so far off course and it will not get righted overnight. Any candidate who will not consider developing the political will of the people is living in a pipe dream. A good part of our fellow countryman/women want is what Obama is selling. Pathetic, though it is, it is the truth. I think getting hell bent on restoring America in one fell swoop will only bring civil/class/race unrest/war.

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    • flagkeeper
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 3:15pm

      Sorry
      No, he was not “picking on him”, but c’mon, this is political. Create a little doubt in the people who might be willing to hold their nose and vote for him. I don’t begrudge him this. Seems it would be the smart move at this point. I like Cain, too. I just hope he does not have any skeletons in his closet. That is how they get you, no matter how good your intentions were going into office…We need a CLEAN, as in dirt/skeleton free candidate with a conscience and a mind who is not so much an overt idealogue, but a man who can look for the best solutions and consider them honestly, within the strict framework of the Constitution, and without fear of leverage being used against them. I like West and hope he is what he appears to be. I think Romney also fits this mold, though I know many who disagree do not know, or care to know, enough truth about him to. I like Cain and hope he is clean, too. Honestly,I wouldn’t be too afraid if any of the candidates got the nomination, if they are clean (except for Huntsman,I do not know much about hiim, yet).
      It took a while to get this ship so far off course, and it will not get righted overnight. Any candidate who will not consider developing the political will of the people is living in a pipe dream. A good part of our fellow countryman/women want is what Obama is selling. Pathetic, though it is, it is the truth. I think getting hell bent on restoring America in one fell swoop will only foment civil/class/racial unrest or

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  • Str8talk
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 1:57pm

    Herman… I thought you were a decent guy until now. Do you NOT know that the Constitution prevents a religious test on anyone running for the President. Religious bigotry has no place in a candidate for POTUS.

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    • CicerosGhost
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:03pm

      Mr Cain stated “The reason he will have a difficult time winning the South this time is because when he ran the first time, he did not do a good job of communicating his religion. It doesn’t bother me, but I know it is an issue with a lot of Southerners”….

      Cain was criticizing Romney’s capacity for effective communication not his faith.

      The headline is a distortion.

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    • lemmings4obama
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:18pm

      @Str8talk

      Yes, please re-read the story as your comment is painting an untruthful landscape. I think Tea Partiers/Conservatives care about as much for Romney‘s religion as they do about Cain’s ethnicity, which is zero. Only the left puts boundaries within our groups in attempt to separate us, just like they do to our country. If you read this story and think that Cain was attacking Romney for his religion then you need to practice up on your reading comprehension.

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    • Mr. Oshawott
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 10:02pm

      @Str8Talk

      You’ve hit the bullseye!

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  • CicerosGhost
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 1:56pm

    What was his statement exactly?

    He stated “The reason he will have a difficult time winning the South this time is because when he ran the first time, he did not do a good job of communicating his religion. It doesn’t bother me, but I know it is an issue with a lot of Southerners”

    that a “little” detached from the headline don’t you think?

    “Herman Cain: Mitt Romney’s Mormonism May Be 2012 Barrier”

    Mr. Cain‘s statement reflects a critique of Romney’s ability to EFFECTIVELY COMMUNICATE but the headline suggests that Cain was criticizing the Mormon faith, generally…..

    This is a distortion.

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    • joyeagle
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:16pm

      I AGREE! Who runs this place anyway?!? :)

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    • gramma b
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:32pm

      What does “communicating his religion” mean? To an Evangelical, the only thing that would suffice would be if he renounced Mormonism. No one else is required to discuss nd defend points of doctrine. Kennedy did not. Like Kennedy, Romney just assured people that his church would not dictate his policies and that people can unite around common values even if they don’t agree on all points of doctrine.

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    • CicerosGhost
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:58pm

      Gamma B,

      What does “communicating his religion” mean?

      How about “effectively communicating the tenants of his faith”. There are a great deal of erroneous assumptions of the content those tenants. Romney’s reluctance to reveal common principles impairs his capacity to garner trust among those ignorant of the principles of his faith.

      Romney doesn’t have to “renounce his faith”, he merely needs to reveal it in a manner which establishes “common ground” with those of differing faiths.

      Mr. Cain‘s statement reflects only his doubt in Romney’s capacity to do so effectively.

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    • flagkeeper
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 3:37pm

      @ Gramma B

      How about asking Evangelicals to explain TBN to non-Evangelical America??? It is a mixed bag with a broad enough definition of Christianity to offer anything from that Pink haired lady, Benny Hinn, Free miracle spring water (for a donation, of course), female pastors, to Joel Osteen (I Like), John Hagee (also like), and T.D. Jakes. It seems any Chrsitian sect that has a clearly defined and strictly adhered to doctrine does not really fit inside the tent of the evangelical denominations and other “not so strict” sects. When you see some things on TBN, though, it is hard not to wonder how much actually helps the cause of Christianity, in general. IMHO

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 1:51pm

    In my opinion mitt romney is way toooooo liberal, no matter his church affiliation. huntsman is waaaay to “world order” for my taste.

    I like Herman Cain and Allen West. I think either or both would be great Presidents and Statesmen. I would hope they can stay focused on issues and not even go after anyone’s personal beliefs unless of course they take on the noman who is muslime. Then, get after it!

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  • encinom
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 1:46pm

    So Cain is going down in flames, I wonder which GOP candidate will be the next to implode? My money is on Bachmann, like Cain she can not stop running her mouth.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 1:52pm

      Yep, and you still have a drawer full of “Hillary 2008” buttons in your sock drawer, don’t you? Don’t worry about our candidates, worry about yours running on his abysmal record. Ouch!

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    • SimpleTruths
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:44pm

      Bachmann is sputtering and losing altitude among sane Republicans and Independents the more they learn about her. She might have solid footing among the unhinged but that isn’t going to win elections.

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    • encinom
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 3:08pm

      @Gonzo

      Obama’s records,

      Repealed DADT, got Osama, ended Iraq, drawing down in Afganistan, pass health reform. Yeah I take that record to run on.

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    • dont tread
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 3:35pm

      Not to mention the libs aren’t destroying their credibility in the debt talks by refusing to compromise. As much as we would all like to believe Obama is doing this, to the general public the Republicans are “holding the economy hostage” and playing political games – AND THEY ARE.

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    • Obama_Sham
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 3:52pm

      @Encinom

      “Obama’s records,

      Repealed DADT, got Osama, ended Iraq, drawing down in Afganistan, pass health reform. Yeah I take that record to run on.”

      Out of all of that, the only one that may be “running material” is repealing DADT…
      1. Got Osama because of the previous Presidents policies…
      2. There are still troops in Iraq… Not ended yet…
      3. Slowly drawing down in Afghanistan… Will this be another Iraq? It’s over, well not quite…
      4. Pass a “health reform” that 70% of the populace did not want… Remember how many progressives lost their jobs in November?

      Your “running material” is what is going to get your Messiah fired, not rehired… You are a twit…

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    • TrueAmericanConservativePatriot
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 4:17pm

      @encinom
      Repealed DADT: Yes what an acomplishment, you know, I work at disney and refuse to change in the open changing area because of the amount of gay men working. I feel completely uncomfortable knowing that they could be checking me out. This is the same reason men and women dont change together. Now how does the military fix this issue? They need to build new quarters for both Gays and Lesbians. This being because if they were together how many men(yes i pick on men because I am one and know how we think even the best of us when presented with the oppurtunity have a hard time) but how many men would claim to be gay so they can change and sleep in the same area as women?
      Next point: Osama, Obama was against the war he said. So with out Bush Osama would have never been killed (yet Obama blames everything else on Bush and doesnt give him credit for this)
      Ended Iraq: How many other wars has he gotten us into again? Not to mention how many of our allies has he disrespected?
      Drawing down Afganistan: Not true http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/06/22/250807/obamas-troop-reduction-afghanistan/ there is is chart there to help you understand it. We have more troops there now than with Bush.
      Pass Health Care Reform: Have you read the bill? If not please do not count that as a good thing, you have no clue what you are supporting. If you have then look at the polls showing the peoples views on it. With so many opposing it, it would not be wise to use it for his political re

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    • dont tread
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 4:25pm

      @TRUEAMERICAN
      So your argument why gays shouldn’t serve in the military is because of them having to change their clothes? Forget Herman, you should be running with your great insight.

      How’s it make you feel that Americans have to lie about who they are to fight and die for YOUR freedom

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  • emilieclark
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 1:46pm

    Mormons have and live christlike principles and values, and most of them are strong constitutionalists, but Romney is to much a people pleaser for my tastes.

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    • HankScram
      Posted on July 20, 2011 at 1:25am

      Cain probably got a kick out of saying that about Romney’s faith since mormons excluded blacks from the priesthood until 1978, since mormons said blacks were cursed, since Brigham Young mormon prophet and recent Prophet Benson said horrible things about blacks . . . . Cain probably said it knowing how ironic it was that a black man was saying being a mormon was a handicap . . . my how times have changed.

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  • chb03c
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 1:46pm

    What I find sad about Herman is his strong points are the economy, the main issue right now is the economy but he refuses to talk about it. Instead he talks about Muslims in his Cabinet, Mosques and Romney’s religion, things that don’t matter to anyone. If he just stayed on the topic of the economy then he would probably be a front runner.

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    • YAHSHUARULES
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 5:32pm

      The issue of Muslims and Mosques better matter to EVERYONE or this country will become part of a CALIPHATE. Make no mistake about it. There is an agenda and those who are ignoring it will pay a price sooner then later. Islam is slowly, quietly creeping into every area of this country and in the guise of a religion is promulgating a alternate government. This should be treason. This should not be tolerated. Yet local, ignorant, apathetic politicians continue to approve this expansion on the grounds its a religion. The Mosque is a TROJAN HORSE that is bringing in radical, intolerant system of laws that will doom this country. Educate yourself. Read the works of former Muslims who have been trying to warn this country of what is coming.

      A former fanatical Shi’ite Muslim who is now a Christian pastor , Reza Safa (author of “Inside Islam”) says that only NOMINAL Muslims are peace loving. NORMAL Muslims that follow the Quran can’t be. Islam has blood on every page of its history and teaching. Islam carries the spirit of violence. The Quran was written in two parts – the first was at Mecca and Mohammed had only 200 converts and that was when he was trying to win over Jewish converts. When he relocated to Medina he changed with position he converted to the SWORD and after that Islam took over the whole Arab Peninsula. He should know.
      Look at people like Walid Shoebat (former Muslim PLO terrorist who wrote “Why I left Ghijad” and “Why We Want to Kill You”), Reza Fah

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  • NOBALONEY
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 1:45pm

    I like Herman Cain because he’s frank and bold, but don’t go after anyones religion or beliefs. As far as Mitt Romney’s religion impeding him from becoming the nominee or president. The same was said about John F Kennedy in 1960.

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  • LibertyGoddess
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 1:45pm

    Herman, you just lost my support. You are politicizing this over someone’s religion. I am waiting for Allen West at this point, and if not, Mitt Romney.

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    • SimpleTruths
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:46pm

      You mean the disgraced military hawk? You might be waiting a long time.

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  • stogieguy7
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 1:45pm

    It might have been a barrier – back before we had our first radical Marxist, Muslim president from Kenya. Compared with that, Romney’s (and Huntsman’s) religion is nothing to concern ourselves with.

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    • HankScram
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 4:36pm

      the mormon prophets are worse than Reverand Wright. Mormon Prophets called the catholic church the great abomination. Mormon Church does not recognize other faiths as true Christians. In fact, mormon church baptizes everyone into their Church after they die (called baptism for the dead – google it) because the mormon church does not believe a person can reach the highest levels of heaven without belonging to the mormon church. I consider it a slap in the face to Christians. And then mormons want to be considered Christian?

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    • thinkinghuman
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 6:12pm

      The South needs to get OVER itself. Aren’t they the ones who tried to hang on to SLAVERY in the day? I don’t hear Herman Munster talking about that one.

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    • Darren
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 8:04pm

      Hankscram;

      Actually, Mormon prophets and President of The church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints opposed other leaders of the LDS Church who called the Catholic church the “great and abominable church” by asking them to refrain themselves from saying any such thing. This is a rarity in the LDS structure. Church leaders have much liberty to express what they personally think . Evangelicals are far more prone to call the catholic church the “great and abominable church” than LDS leaders.

      The mormon Church does not baptize anyone “into their church”. They believe that baptism is essential by one having authority and have members baptized **for and behalf of** those who are dead. Acceptence of that baptism is entirely up to that individual baptized.

      Center to all Mormon doctrine and beliefs is Jesus Christ. He is the center of all the eternities and the one Mormons strive to be like. This is reflected in their beliefs and actions. You cannot get more christian-based than this.

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    • dustinms
      Posted on July 21, 2011 at 1:22am

      @hankscram. Read your bible. Jesus set the requirement that baptism is necessary for entrance into the kingdom of God. The fact that he himself was baptized by John the Baptist, the only one with the authority to be baptize at the time, confirms this. Authority must come from God, “And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron” (Heb. 5:4). Authority comes from the laying on of hands by an official representative of God, like a prophet, or apostle. That is how Aaron the brother of Moses recieved his preisthood. It does not come from a piece of paper, or a seminary school. After the death of the early apostles the preisthood ceased to exist. The catholic church did not have the priesthood, and if they did not have it, how can any split off group claim to have it? In our church we believe that the ressurected apostles Peter, James, and John layed their hands on the head of Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery and restored the priesthood to the earth, they then gave the priesthood to others. We have no problem with baptism if it’s performed with proper authority. As far as baptisms for the dead go, that was practiced in the days of the new testament. 1 Cor. 15:29 “Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? Why are they then baptized for the dead?”
      Also, anyone who thinks we worship a different Jesus, don’t know about you, but I worship the one who died for my sins and was resurrected the third d

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  • Countrygirl1362
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 1:45pm

    Romney care says it all for me.

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  • capecodsully
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 1:44pm

    He didn‘t actually say anything about Romney’s faith, he spoke about Romney’s ability to communicate to Americans about his faith, bit of a difference. Mormons aren‘t commies and they don’t strap bombs on themselves so what more does Romney need to say?

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  • cloudsofwar
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 1:43pm

    hey Herman it’s not romneys religion, it’s ROMNEY CARE.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:04pm

      Herman said he knew Romney’s religion was a problem for some people, in the south, and he said Romney-Care was an ankle bracelet.
      I like Herman, because he tells it like it is. He sounds like an intelligent man, but unlike Obama, isn’t an elitist thug.

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  • Brizz
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 1:38pm

    Its his principles that matter.

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    • HappyStretchedThin
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 1:46pm

      Well said. Sadly, I think Cain has made so many comments on religion he’s beginning to fall into the trap of cornering himself as an Evangelical-only candidate. I‘ll be happy to criticize Romney for what he’s done wrong, and what damaging political opinions he holds, but at election time, I’m going to pick the lesser of two evils as is always the choice in politics…

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    • calamitykate
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:15pm

      @happystretchedthin
      I share your concerns about Cain, it seems that the only parts of his speeches that are getting any media attention are his comments on Religion. But maybe it not him, its just what the media has focus-tested as negative to report. Hes the most open-minded, out-spoken contender in the ring with no dirt to dig up, they have to find someway to discredit him. Its a play right out of Rules for Radicals. They did the same to Palin, and are turning on Bachmann and Cain now.

      Help us, Herman Cain! You are our only hope!

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    • HappyStretchedThin
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:33pm

      Kate: I LOVE Cain on the substance too. But he should expect this from the media, and avoid the trap is all, I’m saying. Anytime Cain comments on religion, the media get a four-way win: 1. discredit Cain as either too focused on religion, or too easily distracted by it; 2. discredit Romney (who they think is a more serious contender) as not able to carry his base; 3. Depict all Republicans as weak from in-fighting–requiring ideological and even confessional purity at every turn; 4. Paint all Republicans as having some kind of bigoted nature that no one should trust. They’re dead wrong on all counts, I just don’t like it when they get more fodder.
      In any case, looks like they’re fooling less and less people, South or not! Things are looking up.

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  • vennoye
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 1:37pm

    Any problem I have with Romney is based upon what he did as govenor of Mass………not on his religion.

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  • Quagaar Warrior
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 1:36pm

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    Better a Mormon than a Muslim any day!!!
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    • HankScram
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 4:41pm

      Romney refuses to talk about his faith because the more he talks about it the more it becomes clear he is not a Christian. Do Christians believe God has a wife? That he lives on a planet and looks like a man – but without blood running through his veins? That when Christ returns it will be in Missouri? That the mormon church is the one true church and when Christ returns it will be so? That you must be mormon to go to the highest level of heaven?

      Of course Romney won’t talk about it. For the same reasons mormons deny their history and current mormon prophets don’t talk about the teachings of past mormon prophets. Mormons want so bad to be accepted and called Christian, but when they say that every other church or faith is false – an abomindation – and that the mormon church is the one true church and the only church with authority from God. when the mormon church claims to have a living Prophet. Where’s the Christian in that?

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    • Hemispheres
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 6:29pm

      Hankscram, many Christians believe that. They are commonly referred to as Mormons. Sorry if it doesn’t fit YOUR definition. Mormons believe in Christ and any doubt about that is your problem.

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    • cortezhistory
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 8:03pm

      HANKSCRAM

      right on! those are facts, man! Funny how no one is challenging us with actual facts, isn’t it? All they can do is slander, much like Joseph Smith did in the 1820s, 30s, and 40s…

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    • Darren
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 8:17pm

      Hankscram;

      Romney, rightfully so, does not make his religion as part of the campaign because it should not be part of the campaign. Unlike Obama, Romney never sat in church hearing “God d*mn America”. To the contrary, Romney heard many times in church and when reading the Book of Mormon that America is a chosen land by God to be uniquely free if its peoples serve Christ.

      God having a wife is accepted (and it settles well with me) but it is central to nothing in Mormon doctrine. Mormons worship God the Father in the name of the Son and that’s it. Comnig to the Father is all centered on Jesus Christ. That’s the entire essence of Mormon doctrine and theology.

      God being described in anthromorphic terms is abundant in the Bible. It wasn’t until the Nicene Creed where Christianity was significantly moved from a doctrinal foundation to a more philosophical one. This includes the Hellenistic philoshpies that God is without parts of compassion.

      Nobody “has to be Mormon” to reach all the blessings God mercifully offers the faithful. mormons do believe, however, that God asks those who come unto Him through obedience to His commandments and to enter into covenant by those having authority. this includes baptism and this concept has a long biblical history.

      Mormons believe god told Joseph Smith that all other churches are abominations but that is hardly the Mormon message or the “Mormon belief”.

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    • Darren
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 8:36pm

      Cortezhistory;

      Go back and read my post above yours as well as my 8:07 post under Stodieguy and tell me you still think it‘s funny that no one’s challenging you and Hank “with actual facts”. The only person on this page of this thread lacking in “actual facts” is Hank.

      Now that is what’s truly funny.

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  • Pyx
    Posted on July 19, 2011 at 1:30pm

    How about spelling his name as H-E-R-M-A-N Cain.

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    • Pyx
      Posted on July 19, 2011 at 1:31pm

      Thank you for correcting the spelling.

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