High-Ranking Mexican Drug Cartel Member Makes Explosive Allegation: ‘Fast and Furious’ Is Not What You Think It Is
- Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:00am by
Jason Howerton
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A high-ranking Mexican drug cartel operative currently in U.S. custody is making startling allegations that the failed federal gun-walking operation known as “Fast and Furious” isn’t what you think it is.
It wasn’t about tracking guns, it was about supplying them — all part of an elaborate agreement between the U.S. government and Mexico’s powerful Sinaloa Cartel to take down rival cartels.
The explosive allegations are being made by Jesus Vicente Zambada-Niebla, known as the Sinaloa Cartel’s “logistics coordinator.” He was extradited to the Chicago last year to face federal drug charges.
Jesus Vicente Zambada-Niebla (Source: MSNBC)
Zambada-Niebla claims that under a “divide and conquer” strategy, the U.S. helped finance and arm the Sinaloa Cartel through Operation Fast and Furious in exchange for information that allowed the DEA, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other federal agencies to take down rival drug cartels. The Sinaloa Cartel was allegedly permitted to traffic massive amounts of drugs across the U.S. border from 2004 to 2009 — during both Fast and Furious and Bush-era gunrunning operations — as long as the intel kept coming.
This pending court case against Zambada-Niebla is being closely monitored by some members of Congress, who expect potential legal ramifications if any of his claims are substantiated. The trial was delayed but is now scheduled to begin on Oct. 9.
Zambada-Niebla is reportedly a close associate of Sinaloa Cartel kingpin Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman and the son of Ismael “Mayo” Zambada-Garcia, both of which remain fugitives, likely because of the deal made with the DEA, federal court documents allege.
Based on the alleged agreement ”the Sinaloa Cartel under the leadership of defendant’s father, Ismael Zambada-Niebla and ‘Chapo’ Guzman, were given carte blanche to continue to smuggle tons of illicit drugs into Chicago and the rest of the United States and were also protected by the United States government from arrest and prosecution in return for providing information against rival cartels which helped Mexican and United States authorities capture or kill thousands of rival cartel members,” states a motion for discovery filed in U.S. District Court by Zambada-Niebla’s attorney in July 2011.
A source in Congress, who spoke to TheBlaze on the condition of anonymity, said that some top congressional investigators have been keeping “one eye on the case.” Another two members of Congress, both lead Fast and Furious Congressional investigators, told TheBlaze they had never even heard of the case.
One of the Congressmen, who also spoke to TheBlaze on the condition of anonymity because criminal proceedings are still ongoing, called the allegations “disturbing.” He said Congress will likely get involved once Zambada-Niebla’s trial has concluded if any compelling information surfaces.
“Congress won’t get involved in really any criminal case until the trial is over and the smoke has cleared,” he added. “If the allegations prove to hold any truth, there will be some serious legal ramifications.”
Earlier this month, two men in Texas were sentenced to 70 and 80 months in prison after pleading guilty to attempting to export 147 assault rifles and thousands of rounds of ammunition to Mexico’s Los Zetas cartel. Compare that to the roughly 2,000 firearms reportedly “walked” in Fast and Furious, which were used in the murders of hundreds of Mexican citizens and U.S. Border Agent Brian Terry, and some U.S. officials could potentially face jail time if they knowingly armed the Sinaloa Cartel and allowed guns to cross into Mexico.
If proven in court, such an agreement between U.S. law enforcement agencies and a Mexican cartel could potentially mar both the Bush and Obama administrations. The federal government is denying all of Zambada-Niebla’s allegations and contend that no official immunity deal was agreed upon.
To be sure, Zambada-Niebla is a member of one of the most ruthless drug gangs in all of Mexico, so there is a chance that he is saying whatever it takes to reduce his sentence, which will likely be hefty. However, Congress and the media have a duty to prove without a reasonable doubt that there is no truth in his allegations. So far, that has not been achieved.
Zambada-Niebla was reportedly responsible for coordinating all of the Sinaloa Cartel’s multi-ton drug shipments from Central and South American countries, through Mexico, and into the United States. To accomplish this, he used every tool at his disposal: Boeing 747 cargo planes, narco-submarines, container ships, speed boats, fishing vessels, buses, rail cars, tractor trailers and automobiles. But Guzman and Zambada-Niebla’s overwhelming success within the Sinaloa Cartel was largely due to the arrests and dismantling of many of their competitors and their booming businesses in the U.S. from 2004 to 2009 — around the same time ATF’s gun-walking operations were in full swing. Fast and Furious reportedly began in 2009 and continued into early 2011.
According Zambada-Niebla, that was a product of the collusion between the U.S. government and the Sinaloa Cartel.
Soldiers and police officers guard packages of seized marijuana during a presentation for the media in Tijuana, Mexico. (AP Photo/Guillermo Arias)
The claims seem to fall in line with statements made last month by Guillermo Terrazas Villanueva, a spokesman for the Chihuahua state government in northern Mexico who said U.S. agencies ”don’t fight drug traffickers,“ instead ”they try to manage the drug trade.”
Also, U.S. officials have previously acknowledged working with the Sinaloa Cartel through another informant, Humberto Loya-Castro. He is also allegedly a high-ranking member of the Sinaloa Cartel as well as a close confidant and lawyer of “El Chapo” Guzman.
Joaquin Guzman Loera, aka "El Chapo" (STR/AFP/Getty Images)
Loya-Castro was indicted along with Chapo and Mayo in 1995 in the Southern District of California in a massive narcotics trafficking conspiracy (Case no. 95CR0973). The case was dismissed in 2008 at the request of prosecutors after Loya became an informant for the United States government and subsequently provided information for years.
In 2005, “the CS (informant Loya-Castro) signed a cooperation agreement with the United States Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of California,” states an affidavit filed in the Zambada-Niebla case by Loya-Castro’s handler, DEA agent Manuel Castanon.
“Thereafter, I began to work with the CS. Over the years, the CS’ cooperation resulted in the seizure of several significant loads of narcotics and precursor chemicals. The CS’ cooperation also resulted in other real-time intelligence that was very useful to the United States government.”
Under the alleged agreement with U.S. agencies, “the Sinaloa Cartel, through Loya-Castro, was to provide information accumulated by Mayo, Chapo, and others, against rival Mexican Drug Trafficking Organizations to the United States government,” a motion for discovery states.
In return, the United States government allegedly agreed to dismiss the charges in the pending case against Loya-Castro (which they did), not to interfere with his drug trafficking activities and those of the Sinaloa Cartel and not actively prosecute him or the Sinaloa Cartel leadership.
Taken directly from the motion filed in federal court:
“This strategy, which he calls ‘Divide & Conquer,’ using one drug organization to help against others, is exactly what the Justice Department and its various agencies have implemented in Mexico. In this case, they entered into an agreement with the leadership of the Sinaloa Cartel through, among others, Humberto Loya-Castro, to receive their help in the United States government’s efforts to destroy other cartels.”
“Indeed, United States government agents aided the leaders of the Sinaloa Cartel.”
The government has denied this and says the deal did not go past Loya-Castro.
Zambada-Niebla was arrested by Mexican soldiers in late March of 2009 after he met with DEA agents at a Mexico City hotel in a meeting arranged by Loya-Castro, though the U.S. government was not involved in his arrest. He was extradited to Chicago to face federal drug charges on Feb. 18, 2010. He is now being held in a Michigan prison after requesting to be moved from Chicago.
“Classified Materials”
During his initial court proceedings, Zambada-Niebla continually stated that he was granted full immunity by the DEA in exchange for his cooperation. The agency, however, argues that an “official” immunity deal was never established though they admit he may have acted as an informant.
Zambada-Niebla and his legal council also requested records about Operation Fast and Furious, which permitted weapons purchased in the United States to be illegally smuggled into Mexico, sometimes by paid U.S. informants and cartel leaders. Their request was denied. From the defense motion:
“It is estimated that approximately 3,000 people were killed in Mexico as a result of ‘Operation Fast and Furious,’ including law enforcement officers in the state of Sinaloa, Mexico, the headquarters of the Sinaloa cartel. The Department of Justice’s leadership apparently saw this as an ingenious way of combating drug cartel activities.”
“It has recently been disclosed that in addition to the above-referenced problems with ‘Operation Fast & Furious,’ the DOJ, DEA, and the FBI knew that some of the people who were receiving the weapons that were being allowed to be transported to Mexico, were in fact informants working for those organizations and included some of the leaders of the cartels.”
Zambada’s attorney has filed several motions for discovery to that effect in Illinois Federal District Court, which were summarily denied by the presiding judge who claimed the defendant failed to make the case that he was actually a DEA informant.
In April, 2012, a federal judge refused to dismiss charges against him.
From a Chicago Sun Times report: “According to the government, [Zambada-Niebla] conveyed his interest and willingness to cooperate with the U.S. government, but the DEA agents told him they ‘were not authorized to meet with him, much less have substantive discussions with him,’” the judge wrote.
In this courtroom artist's drawing Jesus Vincente Zambada-Niebla appears before U.S. District Judge Ruben Castillo Tuesday, Feb. 23, 2010, in Chicago. (AP Photo/Verna Sadock)
In their official response to Zambada-Niebla’s motion for discovery, the federal government confirmed the existence of “classified materials” regarding the case but argued they “do not support the defendant’s claim that he was promised immunity or public authority for his actions.”
Experts have expressed doubts that Zambada-Niebla had an official agreement with the U.S. government, however, agree Loya Castro probably did. Either way, the defense still wants to obtain DEA reports that detail the agency’s relationship with the Sinaloa Cartel and put the agents on the stand, under oath to testify.
The documents that detail the relationship between the federal government and the Sinaloa Cartel have still not been released or subjected to review — citing matters of national security.
(Editor’s note: The impetus for this article came from author Reed A. Williams, whose upcoming book “The Weed That Just Won’t Die” delves deeply into the Zambada-Niebla court case. Get more details on the book here.)
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Comments (526)
dadsrootbeer
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:31amJust like with companies in the U.S., it wouldn’t surprise me that the Obammy administration would pick winners and losers in the illegal drug industry also if true.
Report Post »little big man
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:38ambet this guy ends up dead in his cell, if this is true.
Report Post »stage9
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:53amI‘d like to know when we’re going to do something about the Obama Cartel? That one is the most dangerous of all.
Report Post »Landon410
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 9:11ami agree with little big man, IF what he says is true, the feds wont let him live to get to his trial
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 9:14amAs one great American once said
Report Post »“Surprise, surprise, surprise “
Bloody Sam
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 9:46amThis could very well be Romney’s “October Surprise”. Hopefully the trial will not be delayed any further. Let the truth shine and may Obama be led away in chains.
Report Post »subic
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 9:54amObama & Holder will have him killed…Obama is a criminal involved in this scheme along with HSCB, Wachovia, & Wells Fargo.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jul/30/hsbc-700m-money-laundering-apology
Report Post »caveman74
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 9:55amWhile this would be great ammunition for conservatives, if it were true would this guy really be in US custody? He would either be living on a tropical island with a new name and fortune, or he would be dead. Why would the department of justice bring someone with this kind of knowledge into any courtroom in the US?
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:00amWhen you make deals with the Devil you will always lose. While this guy was giving information he got to know all the key players that work for the DEA. These people at the top didn’t get there by being dumb. I’m sure he became a double agent with the head of the Cartels blessing. All they had to do then was give key players a $ couple of hundred thousand a year. If the agent turned it down all they do is show a picture of their kids, wife, siblings or parents and then they fall in line. This was a dumb idea and people in the DEA that fell for it should be put in front of a fireing squad.
Report Post »doomytram
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:10amLook! Let me be clear. There is nothing to see here. Holder is under contempt but will face Ozero Charges. If you think your Federal Government is full of corruption, waste, and deception, then it is you that should be investigated by Big Sis (Disastrous DHS) If you support our men and women in uniform and love you country and just want your freedom back, then it is you that is the extremist and should monitored by drones. If you think the Federal Government should borrower less than 42 cents of every dollar we taken in, then you are an intolerant extremist that is racist and full of hate.
Report Post »Force2bewreckin
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:19amSo called “conspiracy theorists” have been saying this for 2 decades. The CIA and FBI have controlled the drug trade for a very long time.
Report Post »Thors Hammer
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:22amIf true, I wonder who in Chicago benefitted monetarily from this. There’s a lot more just under the surface, and many heads should roll; unfortunately, with this regime, that doesn’t mean they will.
Report Post »kenboo1
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:25am2004 to 2009 was mostly Bush!!! If we don’t take control of our government and weed out the bad seeds, we are finished…
Report Post »Red Meat
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:29am“Congressmen are keeping one eye on this.”
Report Post »Yeah, right. Nothing will be done.
shogun459
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:34amThor
Report Post »Heads WILL roll just not the ones you’re hopeing for, nor the ones that deserve it.
The heads will belong to innocent American Citizens.
Captain Crunch
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:40amObama and Holder dealing drugs? The accusation has been made. Let Obama prove it isn’t true..
Report Post »Man-On-A-Mission
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:41amIt says 2004 – 2009…..wasn’t Bush President then……think about it….
Report Post »midwesthippie
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:46am…um…most of you seem to be dismissing the timeline: 2004-2009. as much as i dislike oblameless i‘m pretty sure he wasn’t in office at that time. further, you diehard republican hardheads haven’t figured out the your “party” sold you down the river. America desperately needs a third party to clean up the FEDGOV mess…currently “the people” are not represented at the FEDGOV level…
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:50amObama HAS to have his daily rock. Having a President who was, and allegedly still is., a crack addict, this doesn’t surprise.
Report Post »Female
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 11:03amChicago, hmmm
Drugs, weapons, cartel, hmmm
2004-2009, hmmm
Bush did it, hmmm
Can you spell?
D-I-S-T-R-A-C-T-I-O-N
Seems to me the guy is co-operating w/the Chicago political mobsters to get the present administration out of the “fast and Furious” troubles. With the old “Bush‘s fault’ excuse, somebody must be getting closer to being in big trouble.
“Who stole the cookie from the cookie jar…..couldn’t be, then who?” BUSH, of course!
Report Post »Marine 1
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 11:07amSUBIC…You win the prize for being on target. Remember Wachovia Bank? The reason it “went away” was because it was the front bank for the cartels and they proved their power by withdrawing their money rapidly from it.
People need to start thinking about former high-ranking folks in government that have drug connections. Why? All part of the plan and very big business. Nice retirement packages.
Just ask the right questions about a certain person from Arkansas. Flights into that state, etc. Ask questions about Paraguay and the family that has ties there now in a big way. Why was there such a close association between a certain former governor from NM and former Mexican President Vicente Fox?
The American people have had no idea that they have been had. It’s all an inside job for profit and power. The people just supplied the cash to do it all.
Start asking why the Nestle Corp is taking control of water all over this nation. That’s the next gold.
Comtrol the clean water and one can control the people. Control the skies and they control the people. Control who flies, rides, or drives and who doesn’t and they control the population.
Rights? What rights! They are slowly fading into the annals of history.
9/11…Patriot Act…Executive Orders…No Congressioal Involvement…Contempt…No Further Action…Cabals…Airships…Drones…Gun Control…Need we say more?
We have domestic terrorists alright…The leaders in this country on both sides of the ais
Report Post »its_time_to_arrest_our_government
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 11:48amour government is the biggest criminal enterprise out there. using false flag staged killings to take away our gun rights and now they are claiming that its the tea party getting cozy with Islamic terrorists what a crock of bull that is. what kind of lies will Obama and his crack head buddy’s come up with next. America its time to wake up to these criminals in DC. government is our biggest problem its about time they were exposed for the crooks they are and they were all arrested for treason.
Report Post »jdtanker
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 11:52amIsn’t it funny the drugs were going straight to Chicago!
Report Post »jdtanker
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 11:58amThose of you screaming time line. Shut up.
But Guzman and Zambada-Niebla’s overwhelming success within the Sinaloa Cartel was largely due to the arrests and dismantling of many of their competitors and their booming businesses in the U.S. from 2004 to 2009 — around the same time ATF’s gun-walking operations were in full swing. Fast and Furious reportedly began in 2009 and continued into early 2011.
Report Post »canadianlady
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 12:02pmSomething tells me this informant is going to have a very short life span.
Report Post »scjeff
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 12:22pmPicture this: October 2008, $585B pulled out of the market in hours nearly destroying our economy. Sounds like the amount of cash the big cartels may have had under management via their laundry services. The deals were made with the Big O before the election and they playing out accordingly.
Report Post »teddie888
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 12:30pmExtradicted to Chicago? Why Chicago? is it because Axelrod & Rahm Emanuel can control it the way they want it to go? Korruption !
Report Post »VoteBushIn12
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 1:29pmLet’s all believe what a Mexican Drug lord is saying! He’s not a sleazy criminal that would lie… right?
idiots.
Report Post »Richard_Cranium
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 1:37pmBush-Obama. Obama just accelerates Bush’s policies.
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 1:54pmAlex Jones and I have been saying this for YEARS. OUR GOVERNMENT DEALS THE DRUGS YOU IDIOT REPUBLICNAS. Thats one of the main reason we went to Afghanstain. My God PLEASE WAKE UP. Thank the CIA.
Report Post »unwine99
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 1:55pmThere’s no way this is true. I know people question the intellects of both Obama and Bush, but neither of them are dumb enough to put their legacies in the hands of drug cartel. This story is ridiculous.
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 1:56pmCIA has been pumping drugs into this country since at least Vietnam. The Bush crime syndicate is no different than the Clintons and the current cast of characters. That why there is currently record opium crops coming out of Afghanistan with our troops having to turn a blind eye. The drug money gets laundered back through Wall st. and keeps a fesh supply of slave labor going into the privately owned prison systems.
Google Michael Ruppert (ex LAPD narcotics detective that busted the CIA for funneling crack into South Central L.A.) He wrote a book called “Crossing the Rubicon” that will open your eyes to the depth of corruption.
Also Google Cele Castillo (ex Vietnam sniper, Police officer, and DEA whistleblower) who wrote a book called powderburns.
http://powderburns.org/
It’s all one major scam and some of you sit here and play the “Red team vs Blue team” BS like you think you re making some sort of difference. It doesn’t matter WHAT color jersey they have on. THEY ARE MOVING THE BALL IN THE SAME DIRECTION!!!
Report Post »goldmankc
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 2:12pmand there you have it folks, the real reason the government does want any legal drugs, they are running the show and profiting handsomely for it
Report Post »armyofnibiru
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 2:38pmso because he’s a cartel member ,fast and furious did’nt happen? maybe it is all bushes fault.after all he is a new world order politician.
Report Post »watersRpeople
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 2:42pmIs anyone really shocked?
Report Post »T1m
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 2:42pmExplosive – but not surprising – I always thought this was what Obama was doing – and he probably ignored any intel
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 2:43pmVoteBushIn12
Anyone who still likes Bush is a idiot.
Report Post »watersRpeople
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 2:44pmIf they would just have never made drugs illegal, then you wouldn’t be in this predicament. But then the Roosevelt‘s and such wouldn’t have been filthy rich.
Report Post »bumpkin
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 3:11pmI believe him. I have been saying that all along: Our Congress is mafia, for the most part, and they have important donators who like top-line drugs at their parties. Billions of dollars in the illicit drug-trade, and you can BET top Congress folk are managing it. They are anywhere the money is. follow the money.
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 3:28pmSome of you people could see 2004- 2009 and stopped reading – it’s Bushes fault. Holder tried that before Congress and it went over like a f_art in a 40 MPH wind. Bushes program was about trying to follow the money. Fast & Furious started in 2009 and was all about what this article says. There was payoffs that you will never hear about because those off shore acct.s are in kids nams or some other family members name. Some of these people after this guy found out their names were forced tp participate or else the pictures of , kids, wives, siblings, mom & dad would no longer exist. The Cartels sent this guy in to be a double agent.
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 3:40pmThis has always been about drug trafficking..Our government up to the top levels is involved and responsible..Now we can see why Obama fights so hard to stop us from closing the border and the free flow of drugs across our borders…
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:00pm@SUBIC You are correct about the money laundering
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:04pmI’ve read stories alluding to this deal out of Arizona newspapers, but they were never substantiated. Could it be the local press is afraid to attempt to substantiate. Actually, just sounds like the “Chicago Way” using the US government to go international. GLOBALIZATION ANYONE?
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:06pmturkey13
Lol Bush is just a victim like the rest of us? I doubt it. His grandfather did business with the Nazis his old man was dealing durgs at the CIA and he sent us into a useless war in Iraq and 911 was most likely a inside job. You neoconservative followers are dupes, they use you. They deal the drugs they own the prison industerial complex they let the bankers hijack the country.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:09pm@kenboo1
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:25am
2004 to 2009 was mostly Bush!!! If we don’t take control of our government and weed out the bad seeds, we are finished…
Report Post »****
Remember when Bush‘s AG attempted to weed out the US Attorney’s and how the AG was hounded from office by the left? They’ll protect their own, who have been in established power, many dating back to carter!
Mil Mom
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:14pm@kenboo1
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:25am
2004 to 2009 was mostly Bush!!! If we don’t take control of our government and weed out the bad seeds, we are finished…
Report Post »***
It would be interesting to see Drug Sniffing Dogs put to work in the white house, air force one and marine one! Is that why obama’s constantly traveling all over the country and world? The accusation’s been made, maybe we’d better check with harry reid on whether his father should be ashamed of him or not!
Mil Mom
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:22pm@jdtanker
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 11:52am
Isn’t it funny the drugs were going straight to Chicago
Report Post »***
What would be funny is to discover that the routes out to fan across the 50 states, are actually set up to mimic those by the justice dept. in the immigration court system which fans from chi town across the 50 states!
Mil Mom
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:25pm@scjeff
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 12:22pm
Picture this: October 2008, $585B pulled out of the market in hours nearly destroying our economy. Sounds like the amount of cash the big cartels may have had under management via their laundry services. The deals were made with the Big O before the election and they playing out accordingly
Report Post »****
Now there’s a TIME LINE somebody needs to check into!
WakingSheep
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 4:30pmAnd we have issues with the al-queda…….
BAAAAAAAAAAAA
Report Post »MetalPatriot
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:20pmI’m with Marine1 on this.
People can scream that some of us are conspiracy freaks if they want. It’s just to disredit and distract. America has become so STUPID and complacent. It appears as if none of these things matter to anybody.
All the anti-gun laws, border issues, welfare fraud, the election games, & class animosity are all distractions created by the real power players than most of us will never know their names.
The real problem is that humans don’t seem to have souls. Maybe Darwin’s theory of survival of the fittest is correct?
I often wonder how and why our U.S. idealogy managed to be created admist so much evil and selfishness. It is a wonderful idea which I hope gets restored.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 6:28pmThis story has more holes than Jaime Zapata’s SUV and is a lie.
Jesus Vincente Zambada-Niebla is saying that he has info on both Operation Wide Receiver (Bush) and Operation Fast and Furious (Obama) between the years 2005 and 2011.
Operation Wide Receiver was between 2006 and 2007 and had the approval of the Mexican Government. Operation Fast and Furious started in the fall of 2009 without the knowledge of the Mexican Government.
Since Vincente Zambada-Niebla was arrested in March (Spring) 2009 how could have been part of an Operation that started in the Fall of 2009? This guy is being coached to say whatever necessary IMHO.
Report Post »docgreen
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 6:48pmSo how can our Govt. or any Govt. do this? I don’t give a D_m what party it is! What makes this any different than Assad killing off his people? So now our Govts. into terrorism? Isn’t there International Laws that prohibit this? Its the same thing when obama uses drones to take out Terrorists! Where’s the Left that Screamed Bloody Murder for Bush picking up terrorists and moving them to Cuba? Instead, obama kills them! Is this not against International Law? You can bet obama thinks he’s above all this! I guess absolute Power really does Corrupt! You couldn’t write a Book, and have all this in there. People would think they’re Dreaming or in Different Universe! This is a True Horror Story; only the Devil himself could do some of these things. Could obama be the Devil in disguise?
Report Post »I really think he’s “obama” Evil!…..
Sosorryforyou
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 6:50pmThe Monk – same information that I have tried to post several times today, but the Blaze won’t post by comments. Glad you got through.
Report Post »klg1956
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 6:51pmThat‘s why he’s in Chicago…..global banking mafia headquarters
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 6:55pmThe-Monk
I know its hard for you to believe that our government is dealing drugs, but its true. I tried to tell you a month ago. The war on drugs was a frad from the get go. The set the laws, they control the drugs, you buy the drugs, you get caught, you enter the prison industerial complex, you work for 35 cents a day. LOL they got it SEWED UP. Making money from every angel. This is what the NWO looks like. And those deepest darkest cornors of the pentagon, know all about it.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 7:28pm@WAKEUPUSA2012
“I know its hard for you to believe that our government is dealing drugs, but its true. I tried to tell you a month ago.”
It‘s worse than you know and I can’t say any more here at present.Also, you will never see me use the words, “I believe….”
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 7:43pmMonk… We are all in BIG trouble.
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:22pmWell, well, well.
Report Post »stage9
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:42pm“‘Fast and Furious’ Is Not What You Think It Is…”
Actually, it‘s what we’ve ALWAYS thought it was. It’s typical of the crime lord in the White House.
Report Post »Higherstandard13
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:57pmThis explains a lot.
Report Post »1. A large part of the US is posted with warning signs to Americans not to enter due to Illegal Drug Trafficers.
2. Boarder Patrol Agents arrested and sent to prison on the word of Admitted Drug Trafficer whom was allowed to travel back and forth accross the boarder continuing his business.
3. Obama adminstration attempting to stop all detaining of Hispanics calling it profiling…. allowing Obama’s drug trafficing friends to continue business
4. Refusal to build the fence or really put a force on the southern boarder
The-Monk
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 9:04pm@Sosorryforyou (Aug 3rd 2012newbie)
I read your other posts on this subject and I don’t think you comprehend what I was saying or that you read what you typed before you post it. Here are 2 examples;
“Snow – the man was arrested in late March 2009, only 2 months after Pres. Bush took office. Any “official agreement” that he and his cartel would have had at that point would have happened under the Bush Administration.”
“Fast and Furious was an operation done under a gun tracking program that Pres. Bush’s administration started. It is hardly unusual for one administration’s program to arch into the next. For some reason the Obama Administration decided to keep this program that Bush started. If there is anything corrupt about it, it would have started with the Bush Administration.”
Are you a Media Matters troll?
Report Post »petersenonmain
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:53pmIf thia guy is telling the truth the people in both Bush‘s and Obama’s administration should put in jail.
Report Post »NOT A CRAZY
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 11:23pm@VoteBush…Let’s all believe what B.O. is saying! He’s not a sleazy criminal that would lie… right?
idiot.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 12:33amSomeone’s going to die in a cell and nothing else will come of it. Of course the POS pOTUS Turd and his henchmen are going to deny this, as will every other person involved in F&F. Is it Occam‘s Razor that says ’the simplest explanation is the truth’? KISS and nothing’s going to happen- the POS pOTUS won’t allow it- executive orders en route.
Report Post »Captain77
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 12:34amDid you not notice that this started in 2004? Both the Bush administration and the Obama administration have their hands bloodied in this. Yes, Obama’s administration should be investigated and prosecuted in this, but so should those involved in the Bush administration.
Report Post »pcj
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 12:40amJust read a newsletter story on a group called the Conservative Caucus that has put up a $100,000 reward for verifiable evidence of White House involvement in Operation Fast and Furious. Maybe a little cash will bring out more information?
http://www.conservativeusa.org/
Report Post »sophillyjimmy
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 1:03amZambad’s request to be transferred from a Federal Prison in Chicago to one in Michigan might show that he is telling partial truth since he knows that Obama has too many connections in Chicago and to be held in a Chicago federal prison would be his death warrant.
Report Post »I still believe that Fast And Furious was an attempt by Obama under orders of George Soros to weaken then abolish the 2nd amendment sounds closer to the truth and Officer Brian Terry‘s blood is on Obama’s, Holder‘s and Soros’s hands along with the several hundred innocent Mexican citizens and this Confidential Informant is trying to make a deal to save his own skin.
As both a prison sergeant then a police officer for a total of 25 years I learned who to trust and who to know is full of shyte when it comes to CI’s, and based on this article for what it is worth, I do believe he is mixing some truth with allot of lies and when that is the case, his testimony should be considered unreliable in a court of law and should be disqualified, and he should be tried and given the maximum time allowed by law, which if turns out to be 75 years and Obama is re elected they will find him hanging in his cell and claim it as a suicide, I saw it happen too many times to rule this out.
The Congressional Hearing pertaining to Fast And Furious shoud continue and this CI‘s confessions should be taken into consideration but it should not keep Issa from proving Obama’s Executive Privilege from being unconstitutional.
Bill Rowland
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:37amThis is easy to believe because of past actions of the DEA and BATFE. Both agencies have been convicted of entrapment, manufacturing evidence and putting the wrong address on search warrants.
Both agencies have a reputation for idiotic plans and actions, failed operations and shady deals with criminals.
The Obama administration has only fostered this behavior with its on criminal actions.
OMG Nov 6, 2012
Report Post »Independent4233
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:02amSince testifying against the feds could result in this guy waking up dead in his jail cell, much weight has to be given to the veracity of his charges.
Too, knowing that the entire US Justice system is corrupt from top to bottom lends seven more credibility to what he says.
It’s a GOOD THING that this empire is economically imploding, because it seems to have run its course regarding what the founders intended. It can’t be fixed.
The only real solution is to replace it.
We need a peaceful separation and a break up into new sovereign nation states.
Report Post »alhickey
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:14amDon’t you see? This is “Reciprocity.” Don’t you watch John Grisham movies? “Clear and Present Danger!” Jack Ryan (or a suitable substitute) needs to tell PresBO “I’m sorry Mr. President, I don’t dance.”
Report Post »Vladilyich
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 1:07pmDid you read the entire article? Especially where it show that this began a long time ago under George Bush?
Report Post »fixer
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 2:07pmJust more smoke and mirrors…the 2nd amendment was the big prize!
Report Post »jdtanker
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 2:22pmYES CAPTAIN77 AND VLADILYICH WE CAN READ! IT SAYS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PARAGRAPH, “Fast and Furious reportedly began in 2009 and continued into early 2011.” THAT MEANS IT DIDN’T START UNDER BUSH, IT STARTED UNDER OBAMA. IT SAYS THAT THE CARTEL’S BUSINESS WAS BOOMING FROM 2004-2009.
Report Post »IsThereADifference
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 2:48pmHmmmmm I wonder who’s telling the truth. The Obama Administration? or the Drug Cartel guy?
My money in on the Drug Cartel guy. America is probably the most corrupt country on the planet. Gee I can’t wait for Mitt Romney to save the day…
Report Post »IsThereADifference
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 2:59pmVoteBushIn12; Yea and neither are our political leaders… DUH!!!
Report Post »nobama4ever
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:19pmI agree with Stage9.
Report Post »DaveKi
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:02pmAnybody want to place a bet on a war with Iran if Oblubber is way behind in the polls come Oct. and elections be suspended?
Report Post »PROFESSOR X
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:16pmObama will now lose most of his Hispanic and Mexican voter-base after they watch this, as well as, most of the American Voters. The video can be seen here as well.
http://mediateaparty.blogspot.com/2012/08/obama-butchers-mexicans-and-hispanics.html
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Report Post »RayOne
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 10:26amHis testimony is a condition of a change in the WH. That puts a mortality date in November.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:28amHello…. “high ranking drug cartel member” and “chicago” in the same sentence???? There’s the connection folks. All we need to know.
Report Post »SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:42amI’m with you where are all are high ranking officials from ?
Report Post »ScreaminEagle
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 11:03amWhy are we so surprised? This is the same story different day (year). Can anyone remember “Iran Contra”, Corp. USA still in business.
Report Post »2gether
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 12:11pmI guess that’s why the guy asked to be transferred out of the Chicago prison…as if he can’t be reached in another state…fool! This is reall shocking to me. How can they justify allowing a cartel run TONS of drugs over the border without doing anything? No wonder they have been closing the border agent stations in the areas where the most traffic has been. What a bunch of bastards!
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 6:53pm@kickagrandma
If you look again it says, “Based on the alleged agreement ”the Sinaloa Cartel under the leadership of defendant’s father, Ismael Zambada-Niebla and ‘Chapo’ Guzman, were given carte blanche to continue to smuggle tons of illicit drugs into Chicago and the rest of the United States…”
Why not just say the United States? Why add only one State, Chicago, into that statement?
This is nothing more than the WH and DOJ trying to blame the Bush Administration for singling out Chicago as a place to import drugs. If you read the article carefully, follow the links and do a bit of research you will get the bigger picture. It’s all about the election in November.
Report Post »rich43068
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:27amProblem 1: fast and furious started in 2009 and ended in 2010.
Report Post »Problem 2: if any of this is true, our government is a criminal organization.
forthepeople
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:31amThey are attempting to blame this on Bush also ……
Report Post »Grandpa Dave
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:47amRich,
Didn’t Glenn Beck diagram the criminal organization of our current government and their backers on his famous blackboards a few years back on FOX? Glenn probably didn’t have this much detail but the truth is starting to dribble out bit by bit. — Grandpa
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:53amIf there was immunity given BEFORE 2009, then the Bush administration must be involved. He certainly wasn’t exempt from both wrong and stupid items.
Report Post »starman70
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 9:08amWe will probably NEVER hear the real truth. If these allegations are actual. There would be far too many high level US government employees and politicians involved. Congress, no matter how hard it tried could ever get to the real truth.
Report Post »Polarized America
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 9:14amNothing new here ..the US Gov’t has been in bed with criminals for years
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_and_Contras_cocaine_trafficking_in_the_US
On April 17, 1986, the Reagan Administration released a three page report acknowledging that there were some Contra-cocaine connections in 1984 and 1985,
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The war on drugs my @ss
scrudge
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 9:29amare you just begining to realize this ??
Report Post »Xyskalla
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 9:52amIt sounds like they put Vic Mackey in charge.
Report Post »SH4D0W
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:05amUh..You need to do some research on this before you open mouth and insert foot.
Report Post »Zipit
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:39amIf there is any truth to this, it is of even greater importance that Holder comes clean! ANYONE,(again, if this has any merit) who is found to be involved, no matter which administration, and in any way responsible for these allegations should be brought to justice!!! HARSHLY brought to justice!
Report Post »pap pap
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:54amRICH43068
“Problem 2: if any of this is true, our government is a criminal organization”
Yea you think ???
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 3:58pmProblem # 2 is correct ,watch a FBI whistle blower tell the truth about government involvement in drug trafficking Ladies name is Sibel Edmonds a former FBI employee http://freedomguide.blogspot.com/2012/05/government-is-raping-you-sibel-edmonds.html
Report Post »Jesus-loves-Johnny
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 12:27amThe ["DOTS"] are connecting…..! If we stay on these “CREEPS” and LAW Breakers we ought to be able to bust them up and really put them away from Society for a very long time…..!
Report Post »FlagWavingPatriot
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:27amFast and Furious was an attempt to gather support for increased gun control. It backfired on them. Simple as that.
If the US was arming one drug gang to fight another, they’d have simply provided government weapons (they have plenty stockpiled) or they would have contracted for the weapons from large manufacturers. They didn’t do that. Instead, they bought guns in small amounts from little gun shops in the southwest. They wanted to paint the picture that civilian gun availability/process/law was a big problem (that needed fixing, Barry style).
Report Post »poorrichard09
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:49amAdd your comments
Report Post »Docrow
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:58amTwo birds, one stone maybe?
Report Post »TwoLazy
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 9:03amwell, you know how much Obama and Holder like to talk about illegal guns getting into the hands of drug cartels. Now lets run this by again .. .disarm lawful American citizens and arm violent drug cartels …yep … that works and is exactly how a liberal mind functions.
Report Post »Retired Soldier
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:27amWhy would it be as simple as that? Government weapons would have to be accounted for on the books, and the serial numbers will always track back to the Government. Even if the weapons could be taken off the books, then the funding for those weapons would still have to appropriated. Also, any straight-edge border agent would recognized a government Armalite M-4 or Colt M-16. If the Sinaloa cartel has the money and the desire for weapons, then the government would only have to allow them access to those weapons via (let’s say) a memo to ATF. The argument that American guns are being smuggled into the hands of Mexican drug cartels could still be made if the government simply looked the other way. Fast and Furious could have had more than just one intended result. Also, the Sinaloa cartel is the weakest of the major drug cartels (Gulf, Juarez, Zetas). If a desired result was to maintain a balance, then the Sinaloa cartel would be a good counter-weight.
Report Post »WakingSheep
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 5:15pmDid Romney sign an assault rifle ban in MA?
Just curious…….
Report Post »fixer
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 2:12pmAgreed.
Report Post »TRILO
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:27amThis has been reported on other sites for almost two years. Our government is absolutely evil and corrupt to the core. Congress will do nothing about this. It is how our government operates. The idea of the “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” has been used for decades. We supported al Qaeda against Russia and we are now supporting them against Syria. Add to that our recent support for the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt, et al. So the fact we are supporting one drug cartel over the others is not surprising.
Evil and corruption is all the USA stands for these days. From the fraud on wall street, the lies at the fed to the lies to get us into wars. This downfall started way before this corrupt administration, they have just kicked it into high gea. Congress has been either complicit or negligent in their duties to stop this madness and will continue to do so. My vote goes for complicit.
Report Post »stumpy68
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 9:35amThis is exactly how we have controlled organizations and governments
Report Post »around the world arm those who would “take care of them for us”
why should we be surprised when the government does it in Mexico.
bdandsl
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:27amObama and his administration of thugs ought to scare the s**t out of you!
Report Post »ScreaminEagle
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 11:27amThat being said. Nothing more to see here folks, go on back to sleep.
Report Post »Msgt Ret
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:25amThe corruption under the obama adminstration (or is it plot?) is mind boggling!
Report Post »RIGHTHOOK
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:37amObama inserted Rahm Emanuel in as mayor of Chicago for a reason; to launder programs like this and to create excessive votes out of thin air at election time. Crooked, mischievous, anarchist, Marxist.
Report Post »lketchum
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 9:24amIt’s not just “a” plot, it is a global plan. The final phases were meant to be executed under Herr Obama.
The final phases pit an alliance between globalists and if you can swallow this one, Islamists lead by the Muslim Brotherhood – a temporary ally the globalists (Fascists with the stain of Marxism) will later quickly destroy.
They will collapse the economies and give Americans a choice, accept global government, or accept global war. Much more than half of the American population will side with global government, which the left will insist is “only temporary” Terrified and hungry Americans will fall in line. Free Americans will resist and fight, and may be slaughtered, because “on the day” tens of thousands of independent professionals and small business owners, those that can afford to be truly “prepared”, will be taken down in a single night of state violence, murder and private property confiscation. The “state” will justify this by identifying the prepared as terrorists and or tax evaders – arbitrarily assigning tax levies without any measure of due process. The DHS will lead local LEOs and those that could resist this will be destroyed and disappeared. You have less than 13 months from this post to prepare. 700 trillion in off book derivatives will be the catalyst. Normally, I would never be so direct, but I have lung cancer and have but weeks, or a few days to go. Obama is a puppet, and not even a good one. He blew it for them. 50.14N 01.454E PHK tyr
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:17amRIGHT: Interesting. Also note that two other Chicago persons of interest, Blago and Jessie Jackson, Jr. , are “ conveniently ” out of verbal range !
Report Post »RIGHTHOOK
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:35amBarber – I grew up 15 minutes from Wrigley Field in “the good ol’ days” and although have been relocated 7 times since 1980′s and no longer live there I still have family there and feel a connection to the city itself. The Daley family albeit “on the take” and I am not condoning it, ran a tough and effective city. Rahm was jammed down Chicago’s throat “illegally” as is most of what transpires under this administration. There is “a method to this madness”.
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 2:41pmlketchum
I see you didnt take the blue pill. Good. More and more of us can see. That was a excellent post. Please know Ill keep you in my thoughts. Thank you for being direct, people need it on here. I hope we have as long as thriteen months like you said. Im trying my best to get ready with food and such but I feel as if time will pass me by. Most people can see what is going on, and they know its bad, but those same people cant put it all together and see what is around the corner. Good luck to you.
Report Post »stormyweather58
Posted on August 14, 2012 at 1:18pm@LKetchum: Au Corps deGarde?
Report Post »anOpinion
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:24amWho knows how true this is … the sad part is that I would be more surprised if it wasn’t true than if it was.
Report Post »Redwood Elf
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 11:38amI think the odds favor that what happened was this: The Obama administration sent someone to tell this guy they’d cut him a deal if he said something that made it look like Bush was responsible for FNF.
They cut this fairy tale out of whole cloth to distract from the Obama Administration’s FNF, which was designed for the sole purpose of creating anti-gun publicity so they could further weaken the second amendment.
Report Post »klg1956
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 6:57pmYep, that’s exactly what they did and this guy will never live to confess he is a liar…but then a lie is not bad if it works out good for him in the long run…..same as Obama and his band of intelligent fools……kind of like Sharia Law, if it‘s good for you it doesn’t matter if it’s a lie………and somebody should pay attention to this guy and find out if he is a “real” Mexican citizen or a Middle Eastern citizen! Middle eastern men are trying to impersonate illegal Mexicans now.
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:22amFolks, I wouldn’t trust anything this punk says any further than I would, frankly, any statement from USDOJ. I do know this: The “war on drugs” isn’t about any achievable victory or moment when govt. asserts “Okay,we’ve done enough.” This is a bread and butter issue for some and an excuse to step on the peons for others. The govt. will perpetuate this ‘war’… it depends on the never ending conflict.
Report Post »Do I entertain the thought this type of gamesmanship could occur? Yep. Neither element in this grand song and dance should be trusted.
TwoLazy
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:56amI don’t know how you can say the war on drugs is never ending, they‘ve only been at this drug war since the early 1960’s. Man, this takes some time you can’t stop the war on drugs overnight, now can you.
Do you know how many people ending the war on drugs would put out of work, hundreds of thousands, Bankers, DEA agents, FBI agents, Border Patrol agents, mules, and street vendors. Then you have to consider all the expensive car makers going bust, high end yachts and expensive homes builders putting their employees out of jobs.
As Obama would say “Drugs creates or saves millions of jobs.”
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 9:01pmProhibition became law and policy in 1919. It took govt. 14 years to repeal the 18th Amendment and shift its attention from solely alcohol to the other “bad” drugs. We‘re approaching a century into this ’war’… beyond the formation of the DEA (which came into being in 1973).
Report Post »The war on drugs is a war on irrepressible human behavior. It‘s as backwards and barbaric as some countries’ extermination of gays. You can’t force people to turn their back on escapism. I don’t care who chooses to use drugs… until he or she brings their sketchiness into the public arena or harms another human being.
And, yes, there are numerous “straight” industries that depend on the war on drugs: Private prisons, the substance abuse treatment racket, lawyers and law enforcement in general. And all of this amounts to p!ssing in the wind. What‘s really funny are the busybodies who DON’T want peope to engage in escapism or dare expose themselves to a catalyst that is intended to modify behavior and thought….but these are the same people who want you to buy their book or go to church. Um… so some escapism and influence is good… as long as it is busybody approved? Wacky.
Pacapapa
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:22amThis sounds like Operation Northwoods all over again. Google it. While you’re at it Google Operation MKUltra.
Report Post »PATRIOTMAMA
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:22amHe said this occurred in 2004-2009. NOW we‘ll get some answers on Fast and Furious because they’ll be looking to hang Bush for it. The truth needs to come out but once again we‘re going to hear the whining begin that it was Bush’s fault. Even though 2009 was part of Obama‘s presidency but he’ll be able to claim that it was going on and when they found out about it they put a stop to it. Here we go folks. We thought calling Romney a murderer was dirty, it’s about to get downright evil up in here. Hang on to your hats and remember, can of dog food over the travesty in office now.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:27amLOVE the “can of dog food” comment! You go, “GIRL!”
Report Post »lel2007
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:21amExactly WHO is this “federal government” denying all of Zambada-Niebla’s allegations ?
Report Post »RED-DAWN
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:21amDon’t think for one second that these people were not and are not being protected by the U.S. government. Not only that, I’m sure they are being paid a hefty sum for their troubles. That’s the money paid out of forfeiture accounts that the public does not get to see. Ever wonder where all that money they confiscate goes? Now you know where a lot of it goes… Forfeiture Fund = Slush Fund
Report Post »Rick54
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:20amif we had our Borders secured, we wouldn’t be going though this BS.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:29amNow that‘s why the administration won’t enforce the boarders, there is always an agenda and it always involves money.
Report Post »Rick54
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:18amoh, he’s in Chicago, he has nothing to worry about. He’ll walk out at the end of the day.
Report Post »Vickie Dhaene
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 9:08amI don‘t think he’ll walk out of any place. I believe he will be carried out in a body bag.
Report Post »Brrgrr
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 11:32pmthey’ll kill some other poor sucker and put him in the bodybag. he’ll walk out
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:17amThe Sinaloa Cartel was allegedly permitted to traffic massive amounts of drugs across the U.S. border from 2004 to 2009 as long as the intel kept coming.
COULDNT BE RELATED TO FAST AND FURIOUS …………F&F DINT START TILL 2009
not saying this didnt happen, and not saying ff wasnt a kind of “ payment” for information after the fact, but fast and furious was a separate boondoggle unto itself
Report Post »qdllc
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:40amAnd WHY is this NOT the same as the Iran-Contra scandal of Ronald Regan’s term?
Guns and looking the other way for drug running?
How much more criminal can Obama’s regime (and government as a whole) be before people get upset?
Report Post »SH4D0W
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 10:07amNOOOOOO You’re wrong … You been drinking too much of the lame stream medias cool-aid…
Report Post »loveoursoldiers
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:16amwow wow wow
Report Post »sounds like an Obama move alright. no wonder the murder rate in Chicago is so high
Rev. Jackson must be so proud that his brother is pushing drugs into Chicago
grayling646
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:22amThis supposedly started in ‘04…it ain’t all on Pres. Obama.
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:15amWe will never know the truth about this. Al least not for about 25 years (when SECRET can be declassified) or 77 years (when TOP SECRET can be declassified)
Report Post »Radiant.Simplicity
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:14amObama/Bush administrations both corrupt, someone ought go to jail!
Report Post »RED-DAWN
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:29amI’m not going to argue that point with you but, what do both administrations have in common? Lifetime federal employees that never fear the loss of their jobs. I predict it will continue.
Report Post »LIBERTARIAN T38
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 9:10amThe difference is that Bush didn’t hate America and Bush was not a Marxist. Think about how bad things have been made since Obama’s election…the welfare state explosion is intentional. As bad as things are, some people will inexplicably vote for Obama again…
Report Post »Ponyexpress
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:11amIt all makes sense. Legalize the stuff and most of drug associated crime will dissapear. .
Report Post »WE learned nothing with prohibition.
SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:40amA few well trained snipers could be of service we can find one man in Pakistan we can damn well find the kingpins. They have no will to stop it as there is to much money to be made.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:10am“He was extradited to the Chicago last year to face federal drug charges.”
To THE Chicago?
“He said Congress will likely get involved once Zambada-Niebla’s trial has concluded if any compelling information surfaces.n”Congress won’t get involved in really any criminal case until the trial is over and the smoke has cleared”
Random n’s make stories better.
Not sure if the Blaze wrote this article, but it definitely needs a bit of proof-reading…
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:09amHe would have an official agreement with Obama for the purpose of ensuring a destabalized border; a route to supply Obama’s terrorist allies south of the border; and a way for Obama to continue to have political points with his open border insanity to ensure new recruits for the democrats come north.
Report Post »Sosorryforyou
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 9:43amSnow – the man was arrested in late March 2009, only 2 months after Pres. Bush took office. Any “official agreement” that he and his cartel would have had at that point would have happened under the Bush Administration.
Report Post »wtd
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 2:18pmSoSorry . . .http://tinyurl.com/9et4f37
Report Post »President Felipe Calderon traveled to Washington for his first working meeting with President Elect of the United States January 8th, 2009 (pre-inauguration) to discuss issues on the bilateral agenda and issues of regional and world importance.
Obama owns this.
biohazard23
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:08amMadre de Dios….
Report Post »mtsnj
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:07amHoly cow you can’t make this up…except Jack Bauer steps in to save the day! And take down the bad government officials exposing them all….
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:11amI agree, and I have wondered lately if Obama has been supplying the arms for the purpose of the cartels overthrowing the Mexican goverment as well. Obama is capable of anything, he is dead in the heart, and no evil is too vile for his cause, and no limit to the blood on his hands already.
Report Post »ColoradoMaverick
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:07amWhy has the “war on drugs” been such a failure? It’s because of corrupt politicians like Obama who have been very active in supporting the illegal drug trade. Remember, Obama was high on drugs throughout high school and college and probably still abuses drugs. Why not? The liberal mantra is “if it feels good, go for it!”.
Report Post »Redwood Elf
Posted on August 9, 2012 at 11:40amHere’s the Trope Namer for that:
“If you dig it, do it. If you really dig it, do it twice.” – Jim Croce (1943-1973)
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