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High School Punishes Student for Saying Homosexuality is Wrong

Dakota Ary, an honors student at Western Hills High School in Fort Worth, Texas, was in for a surprise after being sent to the principal’s office and punished for sharing his opinion.

After telling another student that he believes homosexuality is wrong, Dakota was reprimanded and given in-school suspension. The incident purportedly unfolded during a German class at the school. He explains:

“We were talking about religions in Germany. I said, ‘I’m a Christian. I think being a homosexual is wrong.

It wasn’t directed to anyone except my friend who was sitting behind me. I guess [the teacher] heard me. He started yelling. He told me he was going to write me an infraction and send me to the office.”

Following the incident his mother, Holly Pope, received a call from an assistant principal at the school informing her of the punishment. In an interview with Fox News Radio, she says was “absolutely stunned“:

“Dakota is a very well-grounded 14-year-old. He’s been in church his whole life and he’s been taught to stand up for what he believes.

He was stating an opinion. He has a right to do that. They punished him for it.”

Texas High School Student Punished For Saying Homosexuality is Wrong

Dakota Ary

After hearing the student’s explanation, the assistant principal reduced the punishment from two days to one, but Dakota and his mother aren’t satisfied, as they believe his free speech has been infringed upon.

While the district isn’t speaking out about the incident, on Wednesday, Dakota, his mother and attorney Matt Krause met with the school’s principal. Pope hopes that the school will remove the disciplinary blemish from the child’s record, while pledging that there won’t be any further retaliation.

In commenting on the incident, Krause said, “Students don’t lose their first amendment rights just because they go in the schoolhouse door.”

Even if the issue is dismissed, Dakota will still be in the same classroom, with the same teacher — a concern that the family will still have to contend with should he opt to continue taking German.

(h/t Fox News Nation)

Comments (469)

  • smark
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:50pm

    FIRE THIS TEACHER AND “THE ENTIRE UNION OF TEACHERS”! I am SICK of these STUPID UNIONS fronting OUR KIDS …… AND AT SCHOOL? UNIONS ARE VULGAR PIGS JUST LIKE NAZI’s. FIRE ALL UNIONS.

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    • mikenleeds
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:55pm

      i would nt put a dog into a public school to have them brainwashed

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    • Docrow
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:08pm

      Texas does not have (or allow I think will have to research……..) a teachers union. There is a group “Texas State Teachers Association” but they are not a union.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 5:02pm

      BRAVO Dakota. Never be afraid or ashamed to stand on the truth. The truth has no agenda. Being homosexual isn’t merely wrong though, it’s an abomination.

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    • robert
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 5:14pm

      “I’m a Christian. I think being a homosexual is wrong.”

      You don’t have to be religious, guy, to say you think homosexuality is wrong. It‘s not only wrong it’s against the laws of nature. Instilled in each of us is a compulsion to procreate and survive and regard sex with the same gender as something repulsive. Such instincts are necessary for the survival and perpetuation of any species in the animal kingdom.

      Don’t let the liars, misfits and kooks who are mentally ill try to flim flam you into believing you need any reason other than the above to respond to your basic instincts. “Just another lifestyle choice” just seeks to obfuscate the issue to make sick people appear mainstream, when in point of fact they’re no more mainstream than satanists, witches, or pedophiles.

      It has nothing to do with religion.

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    • SpankDaMonkey
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 5:30pm

      .
      This is where we need John Damn Wayne to come riding up. And plant a boot right in the behind of that school………

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    • Faith1029
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 6:02pm

      You don’t have to be a Christian to know homosexuality is not only morally wrong, it’s against nature. If it were me, I would contact Jay Sekulow. Jay Sekulow is Chief Counsel of the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ), one of the most prestigious law firms in the country. He is an accomplished Supreme Court advocate, renowned expert on religious liberty, and a respected broadcaster. I wouldn’t let this go. It’s time to stand up for the rights of the United States citizens. This school needs to be sued.

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 6:16pm

      Aahhh , this is directed at liberalsoldier and JZS .. Isn’t the Dept. of Education just perfect ? Please explain this one..

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 6:17pm

      why doesn’t the teacher get in trouble for verbally abusing this kid by “yelling” at him for giving his opinion…I know I would be mad as a parent if someone started yelling at my kid…if this doesn’t show that they are indoctrinating public school kids, I don’t know what will. Homeschool, if you care about your kids!

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    • Czar Casm
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 6:29pm

      If he would have said “Alah Akbar, off with homosexuals heads” the teachers would have done nothing, zero, nada.

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    • william k
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 6:34pm

      Any school /teacher /staff member that is responsible for treating childern in this manor SHOULD BE FIRED , AND NEVER BE ALLOWED NEAR A SHOOL AGAIN. These rotton DISGUSTING VERMON are a DISGRACE , and need to be run out of town , and preferbly out of the country , or put in prision with their own kind of **** maggots.

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 6:54pm

      Hey put this in my file as well. Homosexual behaviour is wrong, demonic and from the pit of hell.

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    • Cherynn
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 6:55pm

      This what comments like that lead to. Freedom of speech is great, use it responsably

      http://digitallife.today.com/_news/2011/09/21/7879728-teen-contributor-to-it-gets-better-project-takes-his-own-life?GT1=43001&fb_comment_id=fbc_10150396292216369_19894656_10150396450426369

      What about these opinions?

      I think being black is wrong

      I think being jewish is wrong

      I think being fat is wrong

      I think being christian is wrong

      I think being short is wrong

      I think being skinny is wrong

      I think being rich is wrong

      I think being retarded is wrong

      I think being stupid is wrong

      I think being asian is wrong

      I think being indian is wrong

      I think being poor is wrong

      I think long hair is wrong

      I think having tatoos is wrong

      I think watching tv is wrong

      I think listening to rock music is wrong

      I think woman wearing pants is wrong

      I think being a repblican is wrong

      I think the tea party is wrong

      I think democrats are wrong

      I think the pledge of allegiance is wrong

      I think being buhhdist is wrong

      I think eating animals is wrong

      I think the death penalty is wrong

      I think creationism is wrong

      Opinions are great, its the one thing that no other human being can take away from any of us. All of us have our own opinions and we all have the right to have our own opinions. When stating your opinion serves no more than to hurt, harm or castigate another human being maybe its an opinion you should keep to yourself. What purpo

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    • USLibertyNow
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:13pm

      SPANKDAMONKEY,
      John Wayne’s dead, over thirty years ago, God rest his soul. But he lives on video. Just watched “The Alamo” last night. Time for 10,000 with the same spirit to step into those boots and plant them in the orifice ourselves. Got to quit living vicariously through those who are done fighting. Live by their example, but don’t wait on them.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:29pm

      The Principal’s email………tell him what you think. I did
      james.wellman@fwisd.org

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    • madarain
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:47pm

      Cherynn…apparently you think free speech is wrong. That doesnt make it so….sorry. You also apparently think being bullied causes suicide, but you are wrong again. Every time someone (you in this case) tries to draw a correlation between free speech and a tragic response that follows, they undermine lifes most essential freedom, while committing a disservice to honesty and clear thinking at the same time. The suicide of a boy who was being bullied is certainly horrible, but your conclusion that “the one leads to the other” is not only untrue but much more troubling, You have finally bought into the biggest lie of all. That free speech is bad and we are not responsible for our actions. The article you posted quoted this statistic…”More than 90 percent of people who die from suicide suffer from mental illness and/or substance abuse. This is no different for young people”…and yet, you still cant seem to grasp the two vital truths right in front of you. Well here they are for you one more time…1) Free speech is the single more important right that any human can have. Those who encourage controlling speech, (like you) are unwitting enemies of freedom. 2) We are all responsible for what we do and say. Blaming that poor kids parents, or our society for applauding weakeness makes more sense to me but the truth is even I am wrong there…HE IS RESPONSIBLE, and so are you, but you have the right to say it…I just wonder why you think it?

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:53pm

      I agree..this teacher should be fired.. Maybe he can start a ballerina school for gay boys.

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 8:26pm

      Cherynn,
      So what? they can think that… anyone can think anyone of those things… it doesn’t make it true or false… they are opinions. do you know what that means? or not? are you saying he doesn’t have a right to speak his mind? you have a right to not listen. you have a right to shrug it off… etc.. etc..

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    • Thomas
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 8:29pm

      Fire the principle too.

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    • quicker
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 8:32pm

      I think having a sex change operation is wrong,but that`s just me.

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    • Cherynn
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 8:54pm

      Hey illiterate jerks, I never said I was against free speech,,,,,,,read it again. I also said EVERYONE is entitled to have thier opinion. Its nice to know that some people use that freedom to tear down others. That is a wonderful use of such freedom. One of the most destructive forces in the history of all mankind……..religion. I has been the cause of many wars and responsible for the deaths of millions and I know that was always Gods intent.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:15pm

      @ Cherynn
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 8:54pm

      Hey illiterate jerks, I never said I was against free speech,,,,,,,read it again. I also said EVERYONE is entitled to have thier opinion. Its nice to know that some people use that freedom to tear down others. That is a wonderful use of such freedom. One of the most destructive forces in the history of all mankind……..religion. I has been the cause of many wars and responsible for the deaths of millions and I know that was always Gods inten
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      You really are this ignorant, aren’t you? Being queer isn’t an opinion, it’s an act. It’s an act that even scientifically/medically has seriously adverse affects. Even if you stand on pure scientific ideology, in order for species to survive, procreation is absolutely necessary. Without the same mating habits as other species civilization ends. Homosexuality is therefore in defiance of the natural laws, and is an act that makes mankind suicidal toward species pro-generation. That’s even before we bring God into it. The Founders of America underpinned this society on Republican rule with The 10 Commandments, and the Christian morality the base. The Bible teaches clearly that being a ***, is an abomination.

      Are you truly this illiterate?

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    • Cherynn
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:29pm

      @ The10thAmendment, I am extrermely literate. Please point me to which one of the ten commandments says anything about homosexuality. What I do know about the ten commandments is the one that says to remember the sabbath day and keep it holy. In the time of Moses people were stoned to death for disobeying that commandmant. Funny that every day of the week I can go shopping, go to a bar or resteraunt, go to a gas station, come to think of it I can do pretty much everything I can monday through friday other than governemtn functions. I know a ton of people that would gladly give up church for double time at work. You folks better grab a bunch of rocks and start the stoning now. As far as the part of the bible that says being gay is an obimination, that the same part of the bible that says you cant eat pork, or lobster, fish without scales, scavengers or animals that eat of thier own. Its funny how christians dont live a kosher life even though that is covered in thier holy book but it is amazing how they can remember the part of that book that covers gays. How is that alot of the old testament laws are broken every day by christian society but they find it easy to condem gay people while they ignore the rest of the laws. What is even funnier is your exactly right, gay couple cant reproduce so do you know what that means??? Straight couples are the ones the give birth to gay kids. Wow, how does that work?????

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    • loriann12
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:47pm

      This was on The Wells Report (with John David Wells) locally here tonight. The German language class has pictures up supposedly from all over the world, and one of the pictures is two guys kissing. That sets a different mood to why he would make that comment. I would hate to go in to my classroom every day and see a picture like that. I had my first experience with the gay community at a college, seeing 2 guys walking hand in hand, and then stopping to kiss. It was yucky enough for me to remember it 30 years later.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:49pm

      @Cherynn

      One of the Ten Commandments was against “stealing.” But stealing did not carry the death sentence. Yet witchcraft (not one of the Ten Commandments) did carry the death sentence (Lev. 20:27). Having sexual intercourse with an animal carried the death sentence for both men and women (Lev. 20:15-16).

      Who among us would deign to suggest to their children that having sex with farm yard animals is now okay since it is not condemned in the New Testament by Jesus, neither is one of the Ten Commandments? When all else fails, try a little common sense and basic morality.

      We are not under the law, we are under grace. read your new testament, and see what it says about homosexuality.

      MEN WITH MEN AND WOMEN WITH WOMEN

      “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even [1] their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also [2] the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense [penalty] of their error which was meet [due]” (Rom. 1:26-27

      “…women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly… unrighteous, fornication, wicked, covetous, malicious, envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity, whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful,

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:52pm

      @ Cherynn
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:29pm

      @ The10thAmendment, I am extrermely literate. Please point me to which one of the ten commandments says anything about homosexuality.
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      That’s funny. You said a lot, to say nothing. Homosexuality is an abomination in the Bible, therefore according to the Word of God. Leviticus describes the extent of the revealing of Gods social plan. Noah Webster declared that (quoted), “Our citizens should early understand that the genuine source of correct Republican principles IS THE BIBLE, particularly the New Testament, or the Christian religion.” Homosexuality is wrong, it’s immoral, and no effort to pigeonhole it into an acceptable act of tolerance for society through a lame interpretation of a metaethical standard is going to change that. What people choose in the privacy of their own homes is their business. What people choose to impose upon the sensibilities of society through a faux moral equivalence is corrosive to my rights, and infringes on the first principles of association.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:54pm

      @Cherynn

      Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me. Just like opinions. I’m a white female, short, had braces at the age of 12, got glasses when I was 5. I was in the navy for 4 years. I’ve been called everything in the book but late for dinner. I’m still here. I’ve had my religion trashed, and no one did anything about it, and I didn’t sue them. I served for 4 years for the right of people to express their opinons in any way but a violent way. If someone wants to tell me I’m stupid (even though I have a higher than normal IQ) it’s their right to do so. Only an immature imbocile will take someone else’s opinion of them as the gospel. If they are so secure in their sexuality, it shouldn’t bother them. I‘ve even been called gay because my hair hadn’t grown out from chemo. I laughed and said no, married with 2 kids, cancer survivor. I also got called gay because only gay women or s l u t s joined the navy. I’ve noticed sometimes the guy with the tatoos and piercings is nicer than the guy in the suit.

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    • Windwalker
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 10:07pm

      As a former elected school director, take my advice. Take this action first to the superintendent, and if he does not reprimand the teacher, then take it up with a regular scheduled school board meeting, after getting on the agenda for that meeting. Don’t go alone and take others who are of like mind with you. Ask for a “closed door” meeting with the board if possible Be very firm with that board as to what your intended actions will be if this type of faculty behavior is not halted. School board seats are an elected position, and these people are not voted in for a lifetime. They do hire and fire superintendents, decide curriculum, and do have the power to discharge a faculty member. Go to the hands that have the power and control.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 10:28pm

      @Cheryn In regards to Jesus not saying that homosexuality is wrong. Read 1 Cor 6:9. this will tell you who will not enter the kingdom of heaven. Neither homosexuals nor fornicators, nor idolaters, nor thieves,nor reviliers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of heaven…As for your Bible verse 7:3 And why do you behold the tmote in your brother’s eye, and behold a beam is in your own ey.(5) Hippocrite, first cast the mote out of your own eye and then you will see clearly to cast out the mote out of your brother’s eye. That just means to clean your own back yard before you tell your brother that his is cluttered. For when we believe that Yashuah is the Son of YHWH and that He took our sins upon His shoulders, died for us and rose the 3rd day and live by His laws.. he does a work in us. No one is perfect, but when we fall, we get back up..dust ourselves off and continue in our walk.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 10:32pm

      The morality in this Nation is in serious trouble. The principles of ethics have long since been perverted by people who believe it’s their right to be, say, do, and act however they want because of the word “Liberty”. There is Liberty, and there is RIGHT Liberty. In a Constitutionally borne Republic we have the Law as the basis of our ways. But not even the Law is the house that defines right Liberty. That’s because the Civil Laws can be manipulated for local gain by the hand of corrupt politicians/lawmakers. What defines right Liberty? Lets let Jefferson present it. “Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add “within the limits of the law,” because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual.”

      I think Jefferson has it right, on both Founding intent, and societies role in the Republican Nation. I also agree with Jefferson when he said. I don’t know if Jefferson was a Christian, or not, but he certainly deferred his interpretations on morality, notwithstanding the Law, on the moral codes of the Bible.

      “I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just.”

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    • Favored93
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:42pm

      yet another reason to home school your kids!!!

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    • Cherynn
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:44pm

      When I graduated from high school my church sent me to Concordia Seminary on a scholarship. Being transgender I didnt want to go but I did and made my parents happy. Part of the reason I went was more to learn why I had such extreme gender dysphoria, I wanted to know why God made me the way he did. I never found that answer. I did know that I would not be doing the Christian God any good being transgendered and his representative. I also worked for a large church in South Bend Indiana and got an education in how some of the practioners of his faith operated. I learned things I wish I never did, the hypocracy was mind blowing and really turned me off and I thought I was hypocratical for being a closeted transgender person. I felt leaving the faith was the best thing for God and myself. I enlisted in the US Navy and never looked back. With all the knowledge I do have about the bible I have found over time I have more questions that I cant find answers to. After the Navy I went to Purdue and graduated with a degree in mechanical engineering. Most of my questions over my faith have scientific reasons to them, not spritual. MRI/CAT scan technology, genetics and advances in medical technology have given me alot of the answers about my dysphoria. I have never been been diagnosed with any form of mental handycap even though I have Klinefelter syndrome and I have an IQ of 168. I am firmly set in my beliefs and will never be swayed.

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    • LookTowardsTheLight
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:54pm

      @Cherynn says “I am NOT a lefty.”

      Maybe, but judging by all your long winded comments, you are far from a conservative.

      @RANGERP, keep up the good fight against these progressive liberals. It’s a tough job, but somebody has to do it :-)

      Seriously, who put’s up a poster of two men kissing (ewww) in a German History/Language class? Talk about pushing an agenda.

      @Cherynn, wait a minute. Did I read you correctly? “Choice” you say? You are choosing to be queer? I guess Lady Gaga has it wrong. She better re-write her “Born This Way” title song.

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    • LookTowardsTheLight
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:57pm

      Oh and you can keep your 168 IQ. I‘ll take Glenn Beck’s any day of the week you elitist pig.

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    • Cherynn
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:15am

      Yes I did say personal choice. I chose to follow my own person feelings that I had inside myself all my life. I chose to no longer follow the life that was forced onto me just to make other people happy. I chose personal happiness over making others happy. I chose to put myself first for once in my life. I no longer allowed others to choose my life for me. I listened to who I was, not who everyone told me I should be. Yes.,,,,,I made that personal choice for myself. As far as having an IQ of 168, I blame it one genetics, 2 of my sisters are Doctors also. Knowledge is a wonderful thing. As far as being a lefty,,,,,,,,,,,,,you really think that smart people cant be conservatives?? Reagan republican here baby. oink oink!

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:51am

      @ Cherynn
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:44pm

      When I graduated from high school my church sent me to Concordia Seminary on a scholarship. Being transgender I didnt want to go but I did and made my parents happy.
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      I quoted just the above to simply save space. You‘re speaking from a purely religious perspective and that’s the problem. You, me, none of us have a right to infringe pure religion on the fabric of society, or that which we allow to reinterpret the Foundations of this Country as a whole. To do so chips away at the strength of the Republic. The Founders perceived a society where the practices of our faith would be local (self determining), but that society would be governed by the FIXED Laws of God, and molded by the moral lessons of Jesus Christ. Why? Because they saw that mans laws were a shifting sand, but Gods Laws were fixed. They settled on the 10 Commandments, but the Laws of Grace which are the moral codes DO NOT CHANGE! That was their solution to the 12 tables of the Roman Laws which could be manipulated through a tyranny. (more to follow)

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:12am

      (continued)

      Homosexuals have the same rights as I do, to practice the intricacies of their belief system in the privacy of their home. Those are rights which should never be abridged. That still does not change the Foundational theology of the United States of America and the codes that brought about the US Constitution. People should learn to separate their emotional prejudices of religion and governance and apply them according to the doctrines of establishment of the society. You’ve said that you learned history? What history are you referring to? There is no wall of separation between Church and State beyond the fact that the Government cannot determine the faith you serve. But the moral codes of establishment are just as unchangeable today as they were when the Nation was established. I’m not going to beat you up (there’s Jeffersons knowledge/hatred of “ORTHODOX Christianity), but I will state that which I believe to be true. Homosexuality is an abomination. That goes beyond they definition you gave for it above as (basically) just being sin. It’s something even God hates. Medically there are reasons for it being wrong, and morally the same result. But once knowledge of sin comes clear, someone cannot claim Christ until that problem is repented of. In THIS Republics foundations is the doctrine that prohibits it from being a social norm. Have the Liberty, but keep it where it belongs, at home. In society it’s a derision.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:27am

      @ Cherynn
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:15am

      Yes I did say personal choice. I chose to follow my own person feelings that I had inside myself all my life. I chose to no longer follow the life that was forced onto me just to make other people happy. I chose personal happiness over making others happy. I chose to put myself first for once in my life. I no longer allowed others to choose my life for me. I listened to who I was, not who everyone told me I should be. Yes.,,,,,I made that personal choice for myself. As far as having an IQ of 168, I blame it one genetics, 2 of my sisters are Doctors also. Knowledge is a wonderful thing. As far as being a lefty,,,,,,,,,,,,,you really think that smart people cant be conservatives?? Reagan republican here baby. oink oink!
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      You keep throwing IQ and knowledge out there. Why? Mechanical Engineer from Purdue? I’m a Computer Engineer from Ohio State, with a required Degree in PoliSci with a focus on International relations (job related), and a third unrelated Degree in Business. I graduated a full year and a half early from High School, and completed my courses at Ohio State with a combined 3.85 gpa, and have a 181 IQ.

      SO WHAT. None of that has any bearing on social, governance, or religious persuasions. Nor does it change the Foundational codes of this Country.

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    • VigilantGuardShark
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:00am

      Another attack on Christian values by a ‘Public’ employee. Just as an aside question…is the German Teacher homosexual?

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    • Cherynn
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:59am

      As far as procreating for the survival of the species is concerned studies have shown that around 10% of the population is gay. The speices will be doomed to extinction because 90% of the population does not have the capacity to maintain a human presence on earth? Gay people have exsisted though out history and yet the census numbers continue to climb to the point that some feel the earth is headed towards a popultion crisis. Look at the family size restrictions China has placed on its population. Woman are allowed to choose to have a baby aborted which I am strongly against yet gay people are not allowed to have a same sex partner. Love is restricted and yet murder is tolerated. None of that makes any sense to me. 99.9% of all species that have ever occupied the planet earth are extinct, that is a fact of nature. Eventually humanity will have its turn. Its a naturally occuring event back by science and biology. I am betting on an asteroid strike myself.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:38am

      @ Cherynn
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:59am

      As far as procreating for the survival of the species is concerned studies have shown that around 10% of the population is gay.
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      I’m responding your whole post, but condensed for space. Percentages mean nothing to me. You’re right back to making moral relativism known as tolerance your god. Percentages also mean nothing for what should and should not be allowed for society. Whatever happens in China is their problem, not Americans problem. They have a Statist socialism (communism), we have a Republic (the Public Thing – The LAW) for governance. The Foundations of Biblical establishment DO NOT CHANGE. To change it, is to destroy the Republic known as The United States of America. Franklin stated “We have been assured in the Sacred Writings, that except the Lord build the House, they labor in vain that build it, I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without his concurring aid we shall succeed in this “political building” no better than the builders of Babel.”

      Two points on Franklins comment. You can’t separate religion from the foundations, because they “are” the Foundations, and our governance is predicated on adherence to those Laws and Moral codes, ie, Commanded, and Moral Laws.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 3:58am

      @ Cherynn : 99.9% of all species that have ever occupied the planet earth are extinct, that is a fact of nature. Eventually humanity will have its turn. Its a naturally occuring event back by science and biology. I am betting on an asteroid strike myself.
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      Backed by what portion of Science? Surely you’re not going to start with Uniformity and/or punctuated Equilibrium? Or the silliness of spontaneous generation converging to evolution? The only one of those idea’s based in truth, is spontaneous generation. It’s been proven wrong, that’s the truth of the rise of species. It’s wrong.

      If you’re a Mechanical Engineer you might get this. I’m currently working on a project in Quantum Mechanics. In all of Science stands the pillars of the Laws of gravity. Gravity is weak, and yet it binds from one end of the Universe to the other without a break or a pause in the constants of pi and e no matter the force applied to resist it. This forum doesn’t allow enough space to adequately explain it all, but the gist is that gravity relates to binding together, or more accurately drawing to itself. Mathematically you can write the Torah, the Prophets, and the Christian New Testament through ancient Hebrew and Aramaic pictographs where Jesus proves by math to be the glue (gluons) that makes all matter possible.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:21am

      Just as Christ Jesus draws all to Himself. I have no idea what the Founding Fathers minds were entirely, but they surely understood some of the Sciences. They may have sensed the rightness of scripture marrying with science, but doubtful they knew the extent or the consequences. Quantum Mechanics is opening up an entirely new way of thinking, and the heart of it all can be found, in the Torah, things like pi, e, the Fibonacci sequence, the Menorah, the Solfeggio Scale, general relativity, and special relativity (and much more). Gravity is that special force that draws all things to itself to form matter. Christ Jesus is the found in gravity to give it coherence or better expressed as cohesion. Jesus is Gods force that makes gravity possible, His Word. We can not see Him, nor touch him, but mathematically we know He’s there, the gluon that draws atoms together and is the Law that prevents matter from going in all directions, and delivering us to a destination of His own choosing. The Founders I suspect merely suspected the truth intuitively. That the Laws of Scripture are one and the same as the 4 general Laws of Nature. The weakest, gravity (Jesus) is also the only one of the forces that extends from everlasting to everlasting (one end of the universe to the other) and can declare the beginning and end at the same time, because it’s one.

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    • Kai Wan
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:50am

      Someone needs to get in the kitchen and make a sandwich >.> chop chop

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    • chazman
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:31am

      … I would sue that school district just as I began to home school my son …

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    • Cherynn
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:56am

      Now that I know what I am allowed to be in this so called free county of America. I truely regret being a veteren for the first time in my life. I do understand I am on my own. I have just expanded my rules of engagement for the comming revolution, time to reload alot more ammo. A human is most dangerous when they have nothing left to loose and I just realised I have made it to that point. When you have nothing, you have nothing to loose and I sure dont have anything to fight for except personal survival. Freedom has just become a myth to me.

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    • angelcat
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:18am

      I’m a retired Texas teacher. There are NO teachers’ unions in Texas, just teacher associations which have no where near the power of unions. They are completely voluntary, and no teacher I know has ever been pressured to join. Dues are very low, and most teachers join mostly for the low rates legal insurance and advice. I paid under $120 for both dues and insurance.

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    • LookTowardsTheLight
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:43am

      @Cherynn

      The pig comment may have been a poor choice of words, but not the label of elitist. Only someone who has insecurity issues would continually advertise their IQ and academic achievements. It’s called bragging and quite frankly makes the rest of us roll our eyes.

      Exactly what conservative values do you hold? Enlighten us please you self proclaimed “Reagan Conservative”?

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    • stone2016
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 11:09am

      @Cherynn – If you don’t believe in Christianity, then walk away. You seem to have a vendetta and want to make sure the whole world see religion the way you do. This story is about a kid being punished because he stated a belief that homosexuality is wrong. How does that hurt you? How does that FORCE the homosexual kid in the classroom to feel threatened, bullied, etc.? My opinion is that the homosexual/transgendered community attempt to FORCE the world to accept their lifestyle is really an attempt to justify their lifestyle to themselves. If everyone else is ok with it, then it is finally ok.

      I love the irony of being called a “breeder” by my gay friends and gay not-so-friends. The same people that are spitting mad when someone calls them a **** or “that f word”.

      Sorry that people expessing themselves, even if you interpret it as hatred, leads you to regret your service intended to protect the right for them to express themselves. Sounds like you are very conflicted. Hopefully you will eventually stop definying yourself based on clothing or sexual preference and realize who you truly are. Only then will you finally find the happiness and peace you seem to seek.

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    • oneshiner
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 11:21am

      Saying homosexuality is Wrong, is his right to say with our Freedom of Speech. He was not slandering any one person, but he said what he feels from his understanding of the Bible.
      Since when is that wrong? That school, teacher, etc. can go suck eggs. I hate bad teachers anyway.

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    • freeus
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 11:34am

      Sodomites have infiltrated the school systems and are trying to change the culture.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 11:53am

      More proof of our school’s trying to soclially engineer a society teaching what to think instead of how to think. I agree this teacher has no place in our schools. The opinions and feelings of anyone about homosexuality are never wrong on either side of the argument. But as far as nature goes homosexuality is 100% wrong in the sense that it stop population. However one could argue that homosexuality is natures way of removing unwanted genes from the human species. So it could technically be a natural accurance for the wrong reason.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:54pm

      @ Cherynn
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:56am

      Now that I know what I am allowed to be in this so called free county of America. I truely regret being a veteren for the first time in my life. I do understand I am on my own. I have just expanded my rules of engagement for the comming revolution, time to reload alot more ammo. A human is most dangerous when they have nothing left to loose and I just realised I have made it to that point. When you have nothing, you have nothing to loose and I sure dont have anything to fight for except personal survival. Freedom has just become a myth to me.
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      Earlier you blamed your parents for “forcing” (the rest of humanity would call it instilling values, morals and ethics) you to be a certain way. In rebellion you joined the Navy where they required a certain grooming standard and you blamed them for “forcing” you to have a lifestyle that exposed you to lewd comments from others. Now you spend your life in a quagmire of self pity where you feel it necessary to make yourself feel better by coming to a forum of complete strangers and bragging about academic achievements, and now blame us, and God, and Christ Jesus for robbing you of all civility.

      Question. Is anything ever your own fault? I started praying for last night, and I won’t quit.

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    • robert
      Posted on September 24, 2011 at 3:57pm

      I’m wondering if this same school has Muslim students. If they do, do you think they would punish them for their beliefs? I mean, all of them believe homosexuals shoul;d be put to death as dictated by their religion.

      Homos better beware if Sharia law gets a foothold in Europe or the US”

      “US Muslim, Kill the Homosexuals!~Video
      This is a video interview of an American Muslim from their September 25Th Capital Hill prayer outing. He clearly states that if Sharia Law becomes the law of the USA, that homosexuals shall be put to death.

      From From the “Sodomy and Lesbianism” chapter of Reliance of the Traveller
      A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law

      “p17.3 The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said:

      “(1) “Kill the one who sodomizes and the one who lets it be done to him.”

      http://islaminaction08.blogspot.com/2009/10/us-muslim-kill-homosexualsvideo.html

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  • andredegas
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:50pm

    Please note the boy only stated HE felt “homosexuality is wrong”. He didn’t say they (homosexuals) are all going to hell, or are sinners or should be illiminated (as in the freedom loving Iran), only that HE felt it was wrong. Give me a break, if we loose our right to decide what we ourselves feel, we’re doomed!

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    • rangerp
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:00pm

      if it were my son, he was start German class every day by declaring “I am a christian, and homosexuality is wrong”

      I would get T-shirts with Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination

      Would also insure that by son could spout the following stats in german.

      -Gays are 2% of the population
      -they have 80% of the AIDS
      -they have 64% of the syphilis
      -lesbians are twice as likely to have an STD, and generally have 4 times the male sex partners in their pasts
      -gays have higher suicide, drug and alcohol rates, and they molest children at a much higher rate.
      -many homosexuals are exposed to homosexuality in prison
      -no science has ever proven homosexuality to be linked to genetics, but have shown homosexuality to be connected to environmental factors such as single families, children that were molested or abused by the opposite sex, overbearing mothers…..

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    • randy
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:06pm

      And here is the rest of the story…..

      Holly Pope, the boy’s mother, said she was shocked that he was suspended.
      “He is not a troublemaker or a bully of any kind,” she said. “This was not out of context. This was in a discussion about religion. … I knew this subject had come up in class before because he told me last week that the teacher had a picture of two men kissing on a wall that had pictures from across the world.”

      Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/09/22/3387931/western-hills-student-suspended.html#ixzz1YiJ6y9gi

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    • encinom
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:16pm

      And Rangerdan continues to parade his bigotry and small mindedness, with quotes from a book of fables. I hope Rangerdan sdoesn’t have any tattoos or eats shell fish or pork all prohibited. And he better check to make sure that his uniforms are not made from two different fibers, another no-no. Of cause slavery and honor killing are a-okay.

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:18pm

      @ RangerP

      Your hypothetical son in the Texas German class might also want to write a paper on German history: How the leadership of the SA (the “Stormtroopers” or “Brown Shirts”) was largely homosexual until the “Night of Long Knives” (June 30, 1934) — two “gay” Nazis leaders were killed in bed together (Ernst Roehm being the highest in rank). The paper might also compare the Brown Shirts’ tactics against free speech with current events in Texas.

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    • NO YOU CANT
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:26pm

      The gradual enchroachment of the Federal government is never ending.
      Now they want to regulate free speech and morals, in the name of “anti-bullying”.
      Our safe schools czar Kevin Jennings, who wrote a book titled “Queering elementary education”, introduced this “anti-bullying” garbage. Wake up parents.

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    • KickinBack
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:32pm

      Now what if he was a Muslim and said that? Kind of puts things into perspective in this country.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:34pm

      @ Chuck Stein
      The LGBT deny the whole Pink NAZI thing. They are in total denial.

      They’ll admit that Roehm was gay. That might admit that a few other SA were gay. That is as far as it goes.

      They’ll say that Sa was nit the SS & therefore gays had nothing to do with the final solution.

      Bring up that Hitler was gay or bisexual and they it drives them completely NUTS.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:37pm

      Quite simply…this is THOUGHTCRIME. George Orwell wrote about it in a book set in a bleak future called “1984”. It is a work of fiction. But thoughtcrime is now on it’s way to being a reality. If you express any opinion outside of what is sanctioned by the liberal elite, their enablers and their footsoldiers, you will be targeted, humiliated and suppressed. This is tailored to firstly, suppress dissent, and secondly to create an enviroment of subservience to whatever doctrine the liberal elite want you to embrace. The madness of liberalism. The vulgarity of the left. Orwell must have a tear running down his face right now.

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    • American Soldier (Separated)
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:40pm

      As an Agnostic who supports the right for homosexuals to their individual pursuit of happiness, I side with the student. He is entitled to his opinion. That’s freedom! I believe in freedom for all Americans, not just those that agree with my point of view!

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    • Locked
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:51pm

      On the plus side, the principal sided with the kid:
      “Pope said she met with Principal James Wellman on Wednesday morning and he reversed the suspension. She said the suspension will not be on Ary’s record and he we be allowed to make up the classwork he missed.
      “Mr. Wellman did a good job of trying to rectify the issue,” Pope said. “I think by the time he saw the infraction, he was in awe — as the rest of us — over what happened.”"

      Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/09/22/3387931/western-hills-student-suspended.html#ixzz1YiUj4oo9

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 5:03pm

      @encinom,
      Hey troll, you’re showing your absolute ignorance about what the Bible teaches.
      Read Hebrews 7 and find out how far off track you are on this.

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    • petrofv
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 5:20pm

      it is a shame that most of our children have to be subjected to the indoctrination at public schools. they don’t want us to think for ourselves. they want us to be identical numb zombies. at times i wonder if the teachers really know/believe what they are teaching. i mean, they can’t all be that liberal and uneducated. can they?

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    • Right_on_the_Left_Coast
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 5:38pm

      @Encinom,

      Give it up! What good does it do you to come on here and call RangerP small minded, to group of readers that overwhelmingly agree with him?! You call him small minded, but at least he and I have better things to do than to troll liberal news sites, ridiculing the people who comment there. It is beyond pathetic that you waste so much time on this.

      And by your comments about the Bible, you betray the fact that you are HORRIBLY ignorant regarding the Christians understand and interpret the Bible. There is something called “historical context”, “cultural context” and a “spiritual narrative” that all must be taken into account (by scholars as well as believers) if they are to understand the intended message of the original authors. You throw all that out the window when you make your ignorant comments about the Bible. Your accusations do not even apply to anything that Christians believe, or that the Bible actually teaches.

      Go get a job. Find something to do that’s more productive than trolling conservative websites and calling Christians stupid.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 5:41pm

      If it weren’t for gays/bisexuals and their tendency to promiscuity, AIDS would never have become a pandemic. This is America, not Africa, but we continue to treat a deadly, contagious disease as a “minority right,“ best labeled as ”the right to spread HIV.” Even now, young gays/bisexuals continue to spread the disease unhindered, because they refuse to wear connddoms and feel a perverse pleasure in infecting others. No matter. Obamacare and communism will take care of the problem.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 5:55pm

      @ kryptonite
      See the study “The Optimal Penalty for Sexually Transmitting HIV” by Andrew M. Francis and Hugo M. Mialon published on March 30, 2008.

      The LGBT community really thought that these researcher were great when the published “Tolerance and HIV” in 2009

      (1) Take a man A who had risky unprotected anal receptive sex once with a man B. Later,
      he has unprotected anal insertive sex 100 times with another man C, who is known to be HIV
      free. The probability that A gives HIV to C is 0.054% or 54 of 100,000.
      (2) Take a man A who had risky unprotected ******* sex once with a woman B. Later, he
      has unprotected ******* sex 100 times with a woman C, who is known to be HIV free. The
      probability that A gives HIV to C is 0.000002% or 0.002 of 100,000.”

      IF YOU ARE GAY DO NOT TAKE THIS TEST. YOU WILL FAIL!
      Is 54 of 100,000. > 0.002 of 100,000 ?”

      54/.002 = 27,000 OR 4 ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE!

      GAY SEX is BAD SEX.

      As many heteros are sluts I think there would still be a problem. But epidemic would have happened a decade or 2 later and not have been as severe?

      Thankyou GAY COMMUNITY

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    • rangerp
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 5:56pm

      Yep, Ranger Dan is a bigot, we got it. You call me that daily.

      I got more stats for you. The libs really hate these, as they try so hard to show that gay is genetic./ Delve into homosexual stats, and find out that of all the gays (2% of the pop) getting aids, 65% are black men, and they are getting it via man with man sex. Stats are showing that the fastest growing gay population is black men. It would be very non PC to suggest that blacks are more likely to cary the nonexistent black gene. What they are discovering, is the black population is turning gay because of environmental factors. I would argue the dems helped in building the environment where 7 of ten blacks are born into single parent homes, are raised without a male figure, are subject to higher levels of crime, get less education, and more black males are going to prison than college. 40% of the nation’s prison pop is black. It is in prison and jail that many blacks are getting introduced to homosexuality. They call it love on the down low. Once again, not the most PC subject, check it out, there is much validity to these stats.

      Hang tough my friend, defending gays, convicted killers, extremist Muslims, and other assorted deviants is a tough job. You are doing your kind a real service.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 6:02pm

      @Chuck Stain

      You my friend are a bad man. You just armed Skippy Boy (ranger dan) here with new info.

      I will study this in depth, and see what I find. Thanks much for the info. I bet ENCINOM just pooped his pants. He has a hard enough time calling me a bigot, now he has you to contend with.

      MONCINE, ROSE ELLEN, ScrubPuppy, TurdHead, PubicPencilneck, and the rest of you libs. Come play with us.

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 6:30pm

      Yo ranger:
      You are a danger…
      to lies.
      I have actually noticed this gayness with blacks….interesting……I am surrounded by 5000 teenagers after school everyday in a city of minorities. I just noticed this. The Lord shows me all kinds of things, and I don’t have to read anything.

      Yo…Stay dangerous !

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    • Cherynn
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:12pm

      I am a member of the LGBT community and I am also a student of history. Without a doubt I know many members of the SA were gay. Many members of the Nazi hiarchy were gay or at least bisexual. What I want to know………….Were do we all go to get the pink triangles to wear on all of our clothes so you know who we are. Thats also what the Nazis did. They also rounded up homosexuals and sent them to concentration camps. When should we all start getting ready so you can ship us off to the death camps?? All the gay people I know are far more moral and christian than alot of you people here. Please give me an addess so I can send in for my pink triangles to sew on my dresses. Want my address so you know where to come and pick me up???? Have you modernized the process or will you still be using Zyclon-B. Zyclon-B is patented too just for that reason, dont believe me look it up. The jews werent the only ones that walked under the gates that said “Arbeit Macht Frei” I’m glad I live in a free county and did an enlistment in the US military just so a bunch of jackasses like you can feel superior to me. Being a second class citizen sure is fun. Its why I am Buhhdist and not christian. As far as going to hell is concerned, if I had to spend eternity with people like you I would gladly go to the other place. At least I wont be surrounded by the self rightous for the rest of forever.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:42pm

      I think that Hitler may have been a closeted bisexual. He spent some time in a lot of men’s boarding houses. I think these liaison would have been out of desperation than choice. But once he had done the dirty deed he was self loathing.

      Anyway Hitler need scapegoats so gays were a good target for him.

      It is funny how gays are 2 faced. A person can be bi and it is expected that a fair number are by the sliding scale they ue. but since Hitler liked or slept with a few women, there is no way he could be bi or gay. Just no way! LMAO. You can’t follow your own LGBT dogma consistently.

      anyway George Soros helped shipped Jews off to concentration camps, so Hitler could ship fellow LGBT off to those same camps.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:45pm

      @ Cherynn
      I know a buddhist and they think gays are really weird. I should ask more what they think

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:54pm

      @ Cherynn ” Being a second class citizen sure is fun. Its why I am Buhhdist and not christian”
      O.K., so you admit that your religion is based upon your politics. Not unusual for a progressive: politics is paramount, and all else must conform to that. Sounds kind of “fascist,” nicht wahr?

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    • TulsaYeeHaw
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 8:55pm

      @Cherynn:

      Jesus loves you, whether you accept salvation or not. Your lifestyle doesn’t hurt me, and it is between you and God.

      Thanks for your service in the military.
      Nazis were SOCIALISTS. Small gov’t is far less likely to put you in a camp, but big governments all around the world do it all the time.

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    • Cherynn
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:18pm

      The reason I am not a christian is all the hypocrates in the pews. I am a very small government conservative and I have been one my whole adult life. What amazes me is how many people would find room in a small government to persecute gay people, deny them freedom and not allow them to live thier lives. I believe in the live and let live. Being gay is a personal choice and I think I have the freedom to make that choice since it affects no one else but myself. People that want to eliminate that freedom are control freaks that think they have powers to control the lives of others. Nothing I do or have ever done has impacted or affected anyone elses life. I live within myself and I control myself. I am not so self rightous to think that I have the authority or the right to make decisons for others or control the freedoms that others enjoy. I dont lie, I dont steal, I dont kill, I am not adulterous, I have earned everything I own, I have never been on welfare, I pay my taxes, I am a charitable person and I am a respected member of my conservative Indiana community. I consider myself a very moral person and I subject my life to my belief system, not yours. I do have that right. If you have the right to criticise me and my way of life, I have the right to criticise your way of life. As far as our greatest freedom of free speech goes, stand up in a packed theater and yell fire just for fun someday and see what that gets you.

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    • Cherynn
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:46pm

      Knowledge of scripture is indeed important, but what a lot of people forget is that the Bible was not written in English (it didn’t even exist then), nor was it written yesterday. If you want to really understand it, then one needs to read what those who know the original language(s) say, and equally important is to understand the culture in which it was written. In almost every case where the English translations are used against the LGBT community, the actual meaning is about pagan practices of the time, therefore they are against false gods, not LGBT “lifestyles” (excepting promiscuous behavior).

      Finally, I would draw people’s attention to Matthew 7:3 (again, Jesus’ own words). Christians are not sinless, we are only called to be less sinful. Judgmentalism is a sin, and probably the one most commonly described in the New Testament.

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    • Cherynn
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:49pm

      Ask them to give a Biblical definition of “abomination” and what is to be done about it. I seriously doubt they have a clue (another example of reading in the wrong language). Stoning is not the penalty. Excommunication and escorting from the city are what the church is to do when confronted by a convicted “abomination” (better translated as “distasteful” and, hence, not worthy of death).

      People have tried to make sense of Deut. 22:5 almost since it was “discovered” after the Babylonian exile (it was not original Law). It does not fit in with the rest of that chapter, at least the way it is used today. If one reads the Talmud (the Hebrew book of interpretation and history), then it can either be for sneaking into harems for illicit hanky-panky or for women to join the army (i.e. wearing armor). In either case, indeed it has nothing to do with cross dressing, nor for forbidding women from wearing pants, as some churches teach.

      Since the Israelis now require women to join the Army and there are few harems in the US, I suspect we can place Deut. 22:5 into the “inactive” file, along with the system of sacrifices and stoning disobedient children.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:51pm

      @Cherynn
      “The reason I am not a christian is all the hypocrates in the pews.”

      We have room for one more, come join us.

      Plenty of hypocrates go to the grocery store, the movie theater, the gas station, the gym, your work….. do you avoid those places also?

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    • rangerp
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 10:01pm

      Cherynn

      So you are a manuscript expert, I did not realize that you were a scholar of Greek and Hebrew.

      So do you recommend the Textus Receptus from Erasmus (Carney Greek) as the basis for the KJV, or are you more in line with the texts from Westcott and Hort that use the Alexandrian classical Greek used for most of the other translations?

      I am a bit rusty, please enlighten us as to where the words are not used as a direct translation, and let me know actual Greek and Hebrew words that were not translated properly. I am always up for some education, and you seem to be just the person to give it to me.

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    • Cherynn
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:11pm

      RANGERP, this should make you cringe,,,,,,,,,,,http://www.tavausa.org/ I am not a member because I am NOT a lefty. I am qualified to be a joim though and I do know alot of thier members.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:21pm

      @ encinom
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:16pm

      And Rangerdan continues to parade his bigotry and small mindedness, with quotes from a book of fables. I hope Rangerdan sdoesn’t have any tattoos or eats shell fish or pork all prohibited. And he better check to make sure that his uniforms are not made from two different fibers, another no-no. Of cause slavery and honor killing are a-okay.
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      All sin can be forgiven, except 1. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. So your little tirade of phoney moral equivalence loses any steam it may have had by the misconceptions you drew around them.

      I personally could care less if some panty wearing little sissy wants to be with a man, but I also won’t hesitate to tell them that by what they allow they separate themselves from God. In this Republic we’re guided by Laws, Laws that are predicated on Natural Laws, and the Bible. Even Jefferson who many pieheads believe to have been a Deist deferred to God. Simply read the Declaration of Independence. The moral codes for this society were established by Gods Word, Jesus Christ. Being so, that makes public homosexuality a reproach to the people. As a Christian it’s my duty of charity (perfect love) to point out sin so that person can find forgiveness. Being queer isn’t cool.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:04am

      (continued)

      Homosexuals have the same rights as I do, to practice the intricacies of their belief system in the privacy of their home. Those are rights which should never be abridged. That still does not change the Foundational theology of the United States of America and the codes that brought about the US Constitution. People should learn to separate their emotional prejudices of religion and governance and apply them according to the doctrines of establishment of the society. You’ve said that you learned history? What history are you referring to? There is no wall of separation between Church and State beyond the fact that the Government cannot determine the faith you serve. But the moral codes of establishment are just as unchangeable today as they were when the Nation was established. I’m not going to beat you up (there’s Jeffersons knowledge/hatred of “ORTHODOX Christianity), but I will state that which I believe to be true. Homosexuality is an abomination. That goes beyond they definition you gave for it above as (basically) just being sin. It’s something even God hates. Medically there are reasons for it being wrong, and morally the same result. But once knowledge of sin comes clear, someone cannot claim Christ until that problem is repented of. In THIS Republics foundations is the doctrine that prohibits it from being a social norm. Have the Liberty, but keep it where it belongs, at home. In society it’s a derision.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:08am

      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:51am

      @ Cherynn
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:44pm

      When I graduated from high school my church sent me to Concordia Seminary on a scholarship. Being transgender I didnt want to go but I did and made my parents happy.
      ——————————————————————————————————————————————-
      I quoted just the above to simply save space. You‘re speaking from a purely religious perspective and that’s the problem. You, me, none of us have a right to infringe pure religion on the fabric of society, or that which we allow to reinterpret the Foundations of this Country as a whole. To do so chips away at the strength of the Republic. The Founders perceived a society where the practices of our faith would be local (self determining), but that society would be governed by the FIXED Laws of God, and molded by the moral lessons of Jesus Christ. Why? Because they saw that mans laws were a shifting sand, but Gods Laws were fixed. They settled on the 10 Commandments, but the Laws of Grace which are the moral codes DO NOT CHANGE! That was their solution to the 12 tables of the Roman Laws which could be manipulated through a tyranny. (more to follow)

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    • Cherynn
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:23am

      So, let me see if I understand my enumerated rights granted to me by the society I am a part of.

      I dont have the right to have the partner of my choosing.

      I dont have the right to show any affection to my partner in public,,,,hold hands, hug or kiss.

      I dont have the right to provide for my partner,,,,,,,insurance benefits through my employer.

      I dont have the right to allow for my partner to make end of life decisions for me as a possible result of some catastrophic injury. Also my partner would not be allowed to visit me in intensive care because they are not immediate family.

      I dont have the right to set up housekeeping with the partner of my choosing and recieve a tax deduction similar to hetero married couples.

      My partner does not have any right to be consider my heir because we have no family relationship

      I dont have the right to observe the morality that is congruant to my Buhhdist faith. My first amendment rights are nullified because I do not follow the judeo christian diety.

      I do not have the right to supplicate myself to my own belief system that harms no one.

      I dont have the right to life or liberty as I define it in my own non harmful way.

      Hmmmmmm. That leaves me with little more than to be a mindless compliant drone void of any personal happiness or dreams. Or I can choose to end this suffering by putting a gun in my mouth.

      So this is what being an American should mean for me.

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    • Kai Wan
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:55am

      LGBT soon to be adding the P for the Pedophiles…… it is just a matter of time, just a matter of time…..Go make me a sandwich and learn to love the caulk.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 11:30am

      @Cherynn
      We do not care to hear about your lack of morality or your devience

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    • stone2016
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 11:55am

      @Cherynn
      You can get the pink triangle pretty much anywhere. Although I think it’s suppose to be a rainbow colored triangle now. They are actually common, since I see them all over cars, guitars, etc. not by a Nazi SA, but by the owner’s free will and choice. Stop with the “I’m picked on because of my choices”. It’s getting old and does you no favors. If the LGBTDVEYHSNG community would stop the disgusting parades, pride days, shove it in your face until you accept me junk, gay marriage would already be here. But the community is more comfortable telling everyone how picked on they are rather than just living their lives. It’s a mental/emmotional symptom of the choices you’ve made. If you lose the “discriminated” label, the community would lose it’s identity. The community would then have to find another way to get attention to make themselves feel relavent again. Live you life, I’ll live mine. But deep down, that’s not what the LGTB community truly wants. It wants to be different and discriminated because THAT is how the community truly defines itself.

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  • Walkabout
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:50pm

    I think the comment “I think being a homosexual is wrong.” is off topic for a discussion of religion in Germany. Is it a big issue there?

    The teacher messed up. He should have told the student that it was off topic.

    We should find out if the teacher is gay. He’ll probably give the kid bad grades for good work. Liberals do that.

    For the record I believe that homosexuality is wrong. I don’t need religion to prove it either. The LGBT crowd supply plenty of examples in their lives and the analogies they draw form the animal world to prove that fact.

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    • Blazer123
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:59pm

      It wasn’t a class discussion, it was just him talking to a friend. In my school, “In School Suspension” was a really big deal and usually reserved for offenses like fighting. Absurd

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:02pm

      @ Blzer123.

      Umm hate to inform of the truth but it was & Dakota did not start it.

      “Someone in the back of the classroom asked, ‘What are the views on gays in Germany and Europe?,’” Ary explained. “And I said to my friend behind me that, ‘I’m a Christian, I believe gays are wrong.’”
      http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news/Student-suspended-for-comment-about-gays-130354323.html

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    • DrFrost
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:16pm

      I’m assuming most of us reading this board went to high school. Students talk amongs themselves often and it’s quite often off topic. The teacher punished this student not because he was speaking out of turn but because he didn’t like what he said.

      One could argue that the teacher didn’t want students making statements that might make other students feel uncomfortable. But I wonder if a student had said they thought christianity was wrong if they would have been written up.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:48pm

      @ DrFrost

      “I’m assuming most of us reading this board went to high school. Students talk amongs themselves often and it’s quite often off topic. The teacher punished this student not because he was speaking out of turn but because he didn’t like what he said.

      One could argue that the teacher didn’t want students making statements that might make other students feel uncomfortable. But I wonder if a student had said they thought christianity was wrong if they would have been written up”

      ______________________________________

      That is it. You said it best. I hope everyone reads your post. :)

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:58pm

      Ahhh . . . this brings back sweet memories:

      In 1972 (when I was in 7th grade), the assignment was to make up a political cartoon. I made one that mocked McGovern (it showed a good deal of knowledge about the Presidential race). The long-haired student teacher approached me in the hall, showed me that he had given the assignment a “Check Minus” and offered me an opportunity to redo the assignment. I declined the opportunity, noted his totalitarian tendencies, and we proceded to argue about the cartoon. I said “Well, I’m sorry that the cartoon made you so angry, but I’m glad that it inspired you to think.” That didn’t go over well. He wanted the paper back. I said “No! This is mine and I consider it a badge of honor!” He moved to take it from me, and I yelled out “If you touch me, it is assualt and battery! If you want to go with me to the Principal’s office, then I will go.” He relented. I showed it to my Dad, who was ripped at the teacher and proud of me.
      Fun times.

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    • westtitus
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 5:41pm

      When most people see animals having sex with the same sex they think it is very odd, same thing applys to human beings. Or do they think it is normal to see a male dog having sex with a male dog? Just saying…..

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 6:10pm

      @ westtitus
      Some of the reason given are that one animal is trying to show it dominance & that there is nothing romantic about it.

      For every instance of homosexuality there is in the wild we need to break it down & find the cause.

      We need to categorize these instance into confusion, dominance display, “they really are gay”, or something else.

      Why?

      The Gays use homosexuality in nature as a cudgel. They say it is natural so let us have our way with society.

      I would argue the same as rangerrp that most gay relationships are the cause of environmental factors and not genetics. It appears to be that way in nature.

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  • edie1945
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:49pm

    I already did. Where is my first comment!

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  • CanaryInACoalMine
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:49pm

    “they will call good evil and evil good”

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    • Battlecarrot
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:56pm

      Isaiah 5

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    • wesleyapril
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:53pm

      Canary,

      You got it right! Just look at what is happening in our society – mother kills newborn – its okay just like abortion, Muslims running rampant and overtaking Europe, PA wants to wipe Israel off the map – we are living in the end days!

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  • semperfiwm
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:48pm

    Shouldn‘t the ACLU be defending this young man’s first amendment rights?

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    • RavenGlenn
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:54pm

      No. Children have no 1st amendment rights in school. For a myriad of reasons…most importantly that school has nothing to do with the 1st amendments parameters. Please read it.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:04pm

      So prisoners have 1st amendment rights but students do not.

      Sounds like a leftists wet dream.

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    • carbonated
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:19pm

      Sure. Time for them to call the ACLU and let them defend this kid’s free speech against state tyranny. He wasn’t being disruptive. See how the ACLU handles this one.

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:25pm

      @ Ravenglenn
      Maybe you should read this:

      Case v. Unified School District No. 233, 908 F. Supp. 864 (D. Kan. 1995)

      When the Olathe, Kansas, School Board voted to remove the book Annie on My Mind, a novel depicting a lesbian relationship between two teenagers, from the district’s junior and senior high school libraries, the federal district court in Kansas found they VIOLATED THE STUDENTS’ RIGHTS UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT to the United States Constitution and the corresponding provisions of the Kansas State Constitution. Despite the fact that the school board testified that they had removed the book because of “educational unsuitability,” which is within their rights under the Pico decision, it became obvious from their testimony that the book was removed because they disapproved of the book’s ideology. In addition, it was found that the school board had violated their own materials selection and reconsideration policies, which weighed heavily in the judge’s decision.

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    • Theleftisda
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:53pm

      @RavenGlenn
      The constitution says all Americans have a first amendment right it does not state an age. states can limit (restrict) activities of juveniles the first amendment is not one of them.

      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

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    • wesleyapril
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:54pm

      Remember the ACLU is not for Americans nor their Civil Liberties – they are a progressive instrument bent on the destruction of any morals that we might have left.

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  • edie1945
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:48pm

    If a homosexual can say, it is ok. Then those of us who disagree, as I do have the same basic right to express an opinion, even if different. I say look at the teacher. He or she should probally have another vocation,.

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    • Fly Old Glory 24/7 365
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:06pm

      why should he have another vocation? Trying to understand what you are saying here…

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:10pm

      Because the teacher is a fascist as shown by his screaming.

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    • sumguyinohio
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:47pm

      The situation was bad enough by the teacher that the kid didn’t feel comfortable returning to his class after the school dropped the suspension. The teacher should receive some kind of reprimand even if it includes dismissal. We cant have teachers with zero tolerance on opinion. Besides even if the teacher is gay he simply over reacted in class teaching the other kids they are not permitted to openly have their own opinion about homosexuality in his class. That is as wrong as him openly sharing his opinion in pictures to this class. If the teacher can express his opinion on it then the students should be able to likewise.

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    • tarbush
      Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:16am

      I would guess that the teachers/administrators involved would believe that anti-christian art should be protected as free speech. “Liberals” aren’t really liberal. They aren’t for “doing your own thing”, they are really for “doing your own thing as long as it agrees with my views and especially if it offends a group I disagree with”. Anything they disagree with should be censored. Their hypocrisy would be laughable if it weren’t so dangerous.

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  • COFemale
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:47pm

    Hopefully, the kid responded with Dumpkopf! under his breath.

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  • This_Individual
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:46pm

    He has a right to his opinion.

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    • normbal
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:51pm

      Wrong. He, apparently, has NO right to an opinion that countermands the prevailing cultural belief that homosexuality is just fine, NOT the root cause and prime reason for the rapid spread of CA-MRSA, Chlamydia and “superbug” Gonorrhea and anal cancer, not to mention HIV-AIDS (despite what the CDC may have been reporting on the subject). Beliefs have consequences, and you AND he have been reported to the appropriate authorities, I’m sure.

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    • Locked
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:57pm

      Norm is wrong. The suspension was overturned by the principal (not in this article, but a quick look online shows it).

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 5:23pm

      NORMBAL- You need a vacation, buddy.

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  • CLEttinger
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:45pm

    It’s ok for students to burn flags, put other nations flags over our own but he can’t say being gay is wrong. What has this country come too?

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    • Doc McCoy
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 5:42pm

      CLEttinger

      Good thought, except you do not take into consideration that those students who burn OUR flag and hang their flag over OURS have OUR constitutional rights although they are here illegally – whereas OUR children/students are denied those same rights.

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  • COFemale
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:45pm

    Oh, my gosh this happened in TEXAS. I would expect it in NY, California, Wisconsin, and maybe even Florida, but Texas. I am crushed. I had high hopes for Texas. I even told myself, I’d move to Texas to work for Glenn; and this is big on my part. I swore to myself that I would never live in Texas, not because of the people, but for having to drive through everytime I made a car trip from Tucson AZ to Orlando FL. El Paso, TX Friday midnight – Beaumont, TX 5am Sunday – drove straight through.

    This is the kid’s belief, he is entitled to this and he has the right to express it in conversations. This was blown way out more than it needed to be and me thinks the teacher might be gay. If this is the case, he must know that not every one will support the lifestyle and to bring a personal vendetta against this kid is WRONG. I hope the parents sue and I do not say this lightly. There are many frivolous lawsuits in our justice system, but this is one that needs to be fought.

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  • Bearfoot
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:45pm

    Never apologize for telling the truth.

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  • cstcomputers
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:44pm

    Another Progressive consensus. And you know what happens when you disagree with a progressive don’t you? You’re considered evil. Scary isn’t it?

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    • wesleyapril
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:56pm

      Your considered a war monger and evil ba8tard – I guess I’m both – :)

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  • Califmoma5
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:44pm

    Just another reason to “Home School”!!

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  • rangerp
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:43pm

    what was his punishment? did the principal throw glitter on him?

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    • DeathtoLiberalism
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:27pm

      He was probably required to write a paper about rainbows. Or perhaps, the accomplishments of Harvey Milk.

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  • dovesong
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:43pm

    Sue the school, the teacher and the principal for infringement of freedom of speech and for infringement of freedom of religious practices. Christians are called upon to witness God’s word. It‘s part of the faith and location doesn’t matter.

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    • RavenGlenn
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:53pm

      Sue them for infringement of freedom of speech? You do not have a 1st amendment right in a school. Period.

      Reasons for this:
      1. The 1st amendment is about how the government may not pass any laws in restricting the right to speech. A school and a teacher are not the government and are not passing any law.

      2. This is an educational institution with adolescents. Children are supposed to respect their elders while listening and learning. If we gave all children a 1st amendment right(which I already established has no business in school), then we would never accomplish learning. Every student would simply make use of that right and the others to simply peacefully assemble, bare firearms, say anything and everything that comes to their minds, etc.

      There is no lawsuit that can be won here.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:06pm

      A school is part of a taxing district & levies taxes. A school is most definitely part of the local government.

      the state government could come in& fire the principal & teacher & since they are not in the federal government the leftists would have no recourse. NICE!

      See how that work!

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:08pm

      “Children are supposed to respect their elders” No matter what. Even if & especially if they are pedophiles.

      I never equated teacher s with elders before.

      Education specialists or professional but never elders.

      ravenglenn sounds evil.

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    • Elena2010
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:14pm

      @Ravenglenn — ADF has won more than one law suit over First Amendment rights in public schools.

      This is a case of inappropriate discipline strategy unless this kid is a repeat offender “blurter.“ I used to give ”lines“ for ”blurters” — the kid who blurts out whatever is on his mind as it hits his mind. In no way would I suspend a kid for “blurting” let alone what he “blurted” unless it directly harmed another and done w/malice. Even so, I’d send him and his mouth to the office to cool his heels until we could have a parent conference.

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    • ati058
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:38pm

      Ravenglen if as you claim that schools and teachers are not the government then how does “separation of church and state” prohibit prayer and other religious expression on school property?

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    • booger71
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 5:48pm

      RavenGlenn sounds like many of the Progressive lawyers in congress without a clue what the Bill of Rights says

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 6:44pm

      @RavenGlenn.. Jesus man, THE DEPT of EDUCATION is not a private entity it is a Government entity…If you come into MY diner that I own and said to you that you can come in but the Black friend that you are with has to wait outside.. What do you think would happen ? Remember now it’s MY BUSINESS. Don’t be a dolt there is a right to free speech EVERYWHERE in this country and yes even in school…

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  • rangerp
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:42pm

    so what happened to the 1st Ammendment?

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:46pm

      Punishing someone for free speech is WRONG !!!
      He has an opinion, and stands by it. That is not WRONG !!!

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  • One Man Progressive Wrecking Crew
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:37pm

    Madness has taken hold as normal in this nation and I thank God I was born when I was, in ‘64, when the country was still one. It’s fall is nothing short of sad and our founders and fore-bearers must be sickened by the inward destruction they’re witnessing.

    They died and spilled their blood for freedom and it’s disintegrating before our very eyes. Where this the ‘norm’ when I was in school, I would have been a drop out.

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    • moreteaplease
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:51pm

      I was born in 65…sure was a different time going to school in the 70′s huh?

      Isn’t it interesting how tolerance only works for the benefit of one group but not another?
      Progressives are such blatant hypocrites.

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  • BrokenHearted
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:35pm

    No matter if the teacher is gay, the young man still has his 1st Amend rights. If the teacher takes any action towards him, then the teacher should be punished.

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    • RavenGlenn
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:48pm

      Learn what your first amendment rights are before you go spouting it like an uneducated liberal please. Anyone that claims 1st amendment rights needs to have some clue what it means first.

      Hint: It has to do with the government not passing any laws that would restrict such things. A teacher at a school is not the government, nor is he passing any laws.

      Anyways…this story is likely NOT what we are hearing. I somehow doubt that a student was simply conversing with a friend in class and the teacher overheard this conversation.

      First: This is not the proper class for such a discussion anyway.
      Second: As someone who graduated both high school and college, if I were to have a conversation with my friend, the teacher would not be hearing it.

      Most likely this is something where there likely was a gay student in the room and he was flat out insulting the individual. I don’t see how else the teacher would have overheard a quiet conversation in the middle of a class with a completely different subject matter.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:55pm

      @ RavenGlenn

      I read the story from a local station. I am now convinced that the teacher is a total jerk.

      “Someone in the back of the classroom asked, ‘What are the views on gays in Germany and Europe?,’” Ary explained. “And I said to my friend behind me that, ‘I’m a Christian, I believe gays are wrong.’”

      http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news/Student-suspended-for-comment-about-gays-130354323.html

      For a kid to say that off the top of his head after a student asked “What are the views on gays in Germany ” is normal.

      They suspended the kid for 2 days until the parents hired an attorney.

      The teacher & principle should be fired.

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    • randy
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:56pm

      You’re an idiot RAVENGLENN

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    • RavenGlenn
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:08pm

      @ Walkabout

      That sounds fairly reasonable I suppose. That still leaves out a few details such as…why did someone ask that question in the first place? As someone who has completed 6 years of various language courses, I’ve never once heard anyone ask such a question. In fact…in 18 years of schooling, I’ve never heard anyone ask about that at all in any classroom.

      I can only imagine that the student was either gay/lesbian themselves, or was trying to make fun of another student.

      But, either way…even if you assume it was just a purely unbiased question simply seeking to obtain a fact that a language teacher is not qualified to answer…then I still find it insanely difficult to believe that the first thing for a student to say is:

      “I’m a Christian. I think gays are wrong.”

      Really? That doesn’t even sound like normal dialogue from anyone, let alone a high school student.

      But, let‘s assume once again that the student wasn’t intentionally trying to cause anyone grief or insult and was simply just spouting out the totally random line for no apparent reason even though nobody asked him about his opinion. A German class is still no place to discuss your beliefs on sexual congress, political leanings, etc. It’s a place to discuss things appropriate to German language and history.

      Anyone is free to disagree with the beliefs of another, but to disrupt the class with it is wrong. Assuming he was just innocent and doe-eyed, it was wrong to suspen

       
    • ImWatchingYouAll
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:48pm

      @raven The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.

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    • ImWatchingYouAll
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:54pm

      So, Raven. What part of that DIDN’T you understand? The part that says the student can’t exercise his right to state his opinion? The part where the school can stop Christianity from being apart of the students Life? What.. Come on, don’t be afraid, God won’t send a lightning bolt down on you… he’ll just note your comment in the book and wait for you to arrive at the gate :) See you there. Oh, no… Never mind, you won’t be going there now, will you. heheheheh Hot time in the old town tonight, huh.

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  • SREGN
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:35pm

    I wonder if the same thing would have happened if a gay kid said that heterosexuality was wrong.

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    • UlyssesP
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:42pm

      The kid would get a ribbon.. a rainbow striped ribbon.

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  • deleeuw
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:34pm

    So, who’s the intolerant group??

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    • HKS
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:46pm

      And just what is the population of this group of people, is the tail waging the dog, just say no more.

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    • ati058
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 5:01pm

      “Progressives” are the most tolerant humans to ever walk the earth… and if anyone disagrees then they must be eliminated in order to “improve” their earth.

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  • searching for the Truth
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:27pm

    Just kidding.

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  • searching for the Truth
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:26pm

    Glenn’s brave.

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  • jagr1850
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:22pm

    good chance the teacher is gay…..time to investigate that teacher..

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    • oneshiner
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:50pm

      So? What’s wrong with expressing your opinion? The kid only said he thought homosexuality is wrong.
      WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THAT? I think having sex before marriage is WRONG? Come on Mr. Teacher and send me to the principals office, AZZ WHOLE. You people are right, I think the teacher is homosexual and it hit home.

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  • jagr1850
    Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:22pm

    good chance the teacher is gay…..time to investigate that teacher..

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