High-Tech Border Tunnel Bust Yields Over 20 Tons of Pot
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SAN DIEGO (AP) — Federal authorities in San Diego have made one of the largest marijuana seizures in the United States, confiscating more than 20 tons of pot that was smuggled into the country through an underground tunnel connecting warehouses on either side of California’s border with Mexico, officials said Wednesday.
Mexican authorities seized more than four tons of pot from the warehouse on their side of the border.
The marijuana is worth more than $20 million if sold on the streets of San Diego, said U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director John Morton. The bricks of pot were packaged for sale.
“This is obviously the work of a cartel,” said Morton, who held a news conference outside the warehouse in an industrial park near the Otay Mesa truck crossing, across from Tijuana.
Officials said the lightening-speed, 12-hour operation started Tuesday night when U.S. authorities watching a warehouse under surveillance followed a tractor-trailer as it left the building.
ICE agents called in the California Highway Patrol, whose officers stopped the rig near Temecula, Calif., about 60 miles way. Authorities say they found 10 tons of marijuana inside the tractor-trailer. The driver, a U.S. citizen, and his Mexican wife were arrested and will be arraigned in San Diego on Thursday.
Authorities quickly obtained a federal search warrant to enter the warehouse, where they discovered 10 to 15 more tons of marijuana, Morton said.
They also found the opening to the tunnel, which ran the length of six football fields under the border and ended at a warehouse in Mexico, Morton said. The tunnel had lighting, ventilation and a rail system to send loads of illegal drugs into California.
The clandestine passageway was too low to stand up in and was believed to be in operation for only a brief time, Morton said.
Officials said the seizure was the largest ever in California and was believed to be the second-largest in the U.S. The largest amount of marijuana seized by Drug Enforcement Administration agents was in 2008 in Oregon, where 33 tons were found, DEA special agent Ralph W. Partridge said.
Wednesday’s announcement comes only weeks after Mexican officials made their largest marijuana seizure ever, confiscating a massive 134 tons believed to belong to the powerful Sinaloa cartel.
Morton said officials haven’t determined which cartel was running the drug tunnel.
Officials have found 125 underground tunnels along the border built by Mexican drug cartels to elude detection since the early 1990s, ICE officials said. Of those, 75 have been found in the past four years. Many were discovered before they were completed. The majority were found along the California and Arizona borders with Mexico.
Morton credited the increase in tunnel discoveries to “good old-fashioned law enforcement” efforts, with agents keeping a close eye on the thousands of warehouses storing goods moved back and forth across the border.
Morton said such a rapid bust, which came after a monthlong investigation, was possible because of cooperation between U.S. and Mexican authorities. He said that cooperation is better than ever, making it tougher for Mexican drug traffickers to move their loads and forcing their smuggling businesses to move underground.
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KE_in_IA
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:54amIt’s a shame that the only truly hard-working mexican entrepreneurs are in the drug trade.
Report Post »catndahat
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:43amIt’s not just about drugs–south of the border cartels are deeply involved in narcoterrorism (arms for drugs and $$) and let’s not forget human trafficking. If pot were decriminalized there would still be plenty of criminal activity for the cartels to manage. Legal or not, pot will be consumed–it wouldn’t make a difference either way.
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 10:24amIf one grows their own pot in their own basement then how does the cartel/politician profit from this activity??? The laws are what give rise to the cartel and the war on drugs. Both fueling the pockets of the corrupt elites.
Report Post »Sinista Mace
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:42amSo freaking what. 3 decades and trillions of dollars later, they find a tunnel with 20 tons of pot, 40 tons just made it through the border somewhere else. Waste of time, money, resources, manpower, waste of breath, space, food, water, just a waste.
The Feds should be looking for the tunnel leading out of the country that the Progressives are funneling our money and freedom through.
Screw Eric Holder and Barack “I inhaled, wasn’t that the point?” Obama.
Hypocrits.
Report Post »originalTP
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 12:34pmUmm, the money left the US via the CDS Derivative scheme, not because “progressives” are shipping it out. Time to get a clue.
Report Post »alcarfl
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:38amI wonder how may semi loads left the warehouse prior to the “investigation/survelience“ and obtaining the search warrant process was determined a ”go”? I wonder how many more “tunnels” are operating, nearing completion or in the planning stages and which side of the border actually initiated these “digs”? And, how many full truckloads/train car loads crossed the border, unscathed, while this massive “raid” was being implemented?
Report Post »marksman234
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:30amThat was supposed to be california’s celebratory pot after passing the pot bill.. too bad they failed at that…ha ha ha ha
Report Post »Sinista Mace
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:44amYou’re an idiot. They grow their own pot. They don’t have to import it.
Who would want to celebrate with some mexican DIRT weed, when they’re growing primo California Bubba Kush in their basement.
Get a clue.
Report Post »Take a toke.
Knightofhopex
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 11:11am@SINISTA
… Pot smokers are losers. And this was satire. You get a clue, moron.
Report Post »originalTP
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 12:09pmWho cares about a bunch of weed? A smaller governement could start by abolishing the DEA. Adults who want to take drugs should be FREE to take drugs. What business does the government have???
Report Post »Knightofhopex
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 2:39pm@Original
That’s always been my argument. Except with the additional fiat that it’s about time we let the idiots of our society thin themselves out anyways. I’d be all for making all the really dangerous drugs legal for a month and provide padlocks and guns to all the decent normal non-loser people that wanna stay in their houses while the culling occurs.
Smoke your pot all you want, dopeheads. Someone smarter than you will have your job soon. :)
Report Post »abbswell
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:29amI really do think the time has come to rethink our attitude about pot. So many resources are wasted on this drug. I think it is time to legalize it. At the very least decriminalize it.
Report Post »Knightofhopex
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:25amIncidently, there was a fire in a similar tunnel with a natural spring running in a cave bellow earlier last year when the world’s “ largest bong ” was discovered by DEA during a raid. Reporters stress how fortunate a similar situation didn’t occur here as half the county and all the firefighters from this incident were incapacitated for three days from THC inhilation.
…. Just kidding. Kidding. Funny if that happened though. xP
Report Post »Alydia
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:24amThey were taking it to California where they HOPED it would be legalized….NOT!
Report Post »NHABE64
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:20amMy heart goes out to the brave men and women of the Border Patrol. I mean these fine American patriots are risking their lives every day just as much as our brave troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. The sad thing is they can only depend on each other for help because Obama and his comrades will do absolutely nothing to secure our borders or give these people the kind of support they need to do their job. Obama is a coward in the White House and simply has turned his back on the Border Patrol, the Governor of Arizona and basically all of America in keeping us safe. He took an oath to defend us and he has failed to do this. And to think he puts Americans at risk every day just to build a voter base for the 2012 elections. His plan I am sure is to give total AMNESTY and each of the illegals who have stolen into our great country will be given a welcome aboard letter from Obama with a voter registraton card in it. Anything to lie and cheat his way into remaining in office. Its not going to happen of course in 2012 or any other time for this traitor but its so despicable to see him betray American like this and not be impeached. IMPEACH OBAMA NOW before its too late.
Report Post »Areyoukiddingme
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:19ami Personally think that USA could solve a lot of these issues in a two week time frame. it is as simple as invading Mexico and taking control of it. turn it into the lower states of United States of America. Heck half their population are living in USA anyhow.
Report Post »starman70
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:19amDrugs, drugs, drugs! Americans should be ashamed of ourselves.
I have a suggestion however, Sell the MJ legally in Calif. and use the funds to help pay the national debt!
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:16amI know this will be contrary to most but I have no idea why a politician should tell anyone they can’t do what they want with their own body. As long as they have no negative effect on others. This is the exact reason for Obamacare. They pass a mandate that will create all kinds of isssues that effect the collective so that they can control all the issues and subsequently your life. Drug laws will give credence to all kinds of laws controlling your life.
Report Post »Inuyasha
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 12:39pmExactly. It is a matter of principal, they see that they can legislate our lives and now it is getting out of control.
Report Post »sickofitall
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:09amWatch the blood flow and more heads to be found. The cartels will be pissed and up the violence. People will have to die for each bundle of this smoke. If anyone believes that legalizing it would stop the cartels from bankrolling is just delusional. It might slow ‘em down a little, but just as with the opium trade the criminal(terrorist) element controls the vast majority of it’s production.
Report Post »I do believe in downgrading the criminalization of marijuana. It‘s ridiculous that it’s federally classed along with heroin or cocaine and how many tax dollars are used to prosecute and incarcerate people for small amounts mostly for personal use. But, legalization is not the answer.
Your Name Here
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:04amWe need to forget the fence and build a concrete slurry wall 100‘ deep and 40’ high with sensors built in.
Report Post »We don’t need a dual fence and guards if we build a good enough wall.
With sensors in the wall we would be able to monitor activity and dispatch guards to problem areas.
Beckofile
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:22amWe could hire the North Koreans to build the fence. I have heard they know something about boarder control. No forget that just put some folks with highly accurate guns down there and pay a bounty for each scalp. It will end the problem before you can get your shovel and trowel out for your decades long project.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 8:59amContrary to popular belief there is no casual users. There are users and non-users. You might start out causally using pot but just like anything else that you put into your body it will take more and more often to get you to what you are expecting. Its not addictive like cigarettes but you have to use more to get the same high. Legalizing pot will only add to the problem. Because when you are high you don’t want to work and just like alcohol makes you incapable of working. But most of California is about not working anyway so they should feel right at home in that state of mind.
Report Post »john seven eighteen
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:16am@Heavyduty
Thank you! I usually steer clear of the pot debate because those who want it legalized will not be convinced of the harm or dangers of doing so, so it seems pointless at times to debate it. However, I spent my childhood and teen years surounded by “casual users” and I know all too well what it can do. Not that everyone is affected the same way, a lot of it is based on the individual, but when I look at the vast majority of these people that I grew up with and “who and what” they have become it becomes very apparent that pot does, indeed, have serious ramifications that continue to build over time. Most of the people I spoke of still use it today and let’s just say that sometimes it is abundantly clear what affects the drug has had on them.
I know I will probably get hammered on this but I had to speak my mind. No offense intended to those on this site who advocate the use and legalization of marijuana.
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 10:18amWhen I was in law school I had never seen more pot smokers in my life. Most are very successful and still smoke. I have found there are pot smokers in every demographic and it is the demographic that determines ones station in life more then the use of a weed. I believe we should be able to make good and bad decisions for our lives. End all the mandates that make others pay for someone elses mistakes and there will be no harm no foul.
Report Post »7SEARCHING7
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 1:22pmAMEN HEAVYDUTY and JOHN 7:18!
Report Post »its great to know there are still people in this country (however rare) that have a good head on their shoulders and haven’t been polluted and given into the “grey” compromise area. There is black and white and right and wrong. when people wake up and realize that and begin to exhibit that things will begin to change. people need to do the right things all the time regardless of how hard or the sacrifices necessary to do so.
God bless.
NHABE64
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 8:59amThis is good news. What I want to know is exactly when Obama and his comrades are going to secure our borders and keep Americans safe in their home. I think many Americans especially those who live in areas where crime from illegals is high are getting bone tired of this crap about just simple “folks” trying to etch out a living in America. Just more lies from the White House to push through a so called Immigration Package aka AMNESTY FOR ALL. Anything Obama can do he will do to build a voter base for the 2012 election and I am sick of his lies and complete disregard for America. We are being seen as a weakening country and don‘t think for one minute the bad guys around the world won’t move in if they think they can. The radical moslems and yes I said MOSLEMS are coming through our southern borders on a daily basis. Friends of Obama and all part of his long range plan to open us up for attack ? STOP the flow of moslems into this country. In fact if he had any love for this country at all (which is questionable) he would stop ALL immigration for at least 5 years until we sorted out exactly who is in this country. Barack Obama is betraying us and even though I know it will be hard John Boehner and the GOP are going to have to STOP HIM NOW. When this socialist returns from India from ye another family vacation wasting taxpayer dollars he should be simply IMPEACHED. My God, when will those in power do something to stop our greatest current threat. OBAMA!
Report Post »jowolo
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 8:58amMoonbeam probably wants most of it. Then he can govern calif. like most of the politicians they have. lol
Report Post »eleven
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 8:57amand you wonder how barbara boxer gets re-elected………..
Report Post »krjones
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 8:49amWow are borders are so secure!
Report Post »LadyLiberty
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 1:55pmI came in here to say exactly that. LOL
+ 1 for excellent snark
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 8:46amWorlds lagest bong found in California.
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 8:45amCartel Caverns now open for splunking.
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 8:44amI guess they were getting ready for the likelyhood of California pot-law for casual useres to have passed. Too bad they did not see it failing, and most likely here to myself, is that someone on the opposition (another cartel) most likely sold this find up the river to damage a rival.
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john seven eighteen
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 8:58amI may be in the minority on this, but if anyone truly believes legalizing marijuana will stop the illegal trade, the killings, the lawlessnes, etc. they are sadly mistaken. These cartels have invested multi-millions of dollars in their “business” and will continue to fight each other and kill innocent people to insure that they sell more than the next guy. What do people think, that as soon as it gets legalized these murderous thugs are just going to turn into law abiding citizens? The problem will actually get WORSE than it is now because there WILL be much more use if this stuff is legalized, thereby creating higher demand and feeding the shark frenzy among the drug cartels. Also, they will not allow smaller “start-ups” to encroach on their lucrative business, they will just kill them off. But call me crazy….
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:23am@John 7:18
I completely agree with you, here in AZ it still appears that medical-pot junk law is going to pass by the fewest votes possible. We already have stores setting up getting ready to ‘educate’ people on how to ‘properly’ do everything for growing it, and getting it. This stuff is just too damn dangerous to permit legalization of, and you are correct that it will just run out of control.
Report Post »SpaceJogger
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 11:42amyeah it’s so dangerous a stoner can come home from work, order a pizza and eat it all while watching a movie or something. pot is evil….
Report Post »adjams
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 12:08pm@ John 7:18
Ok, I’ll call you crazy.
Did the mob go away after prohibition? No it found other ways to make money on other prohibited items. Prostitution, Gambling, hard drugs, etc. Which… they were pretty much doing anyway.
But what also happened? American wineries, distilleries, breweries, etc started making booze again. The mob was never as successful as it was during prohibition. People would be free to destroy there brain functions without having to support drug cartels and now can support american farmers.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 1:04pmPeople always seem to want to equivilate pot with booze, one of the biggest differences that I see is the simple fact that if the guy with his pizza after work comes home and drinks a beer his kids don’t get drunk. Pot smoke gives other people around the smoker a marajuana high, not everybody wants to smoke pot. I don’t want to have to leave wherever I happen to be just because some stoner comes and stands next to me.I also don’t want that stoner standing next to my kid and smoking his dope.
Report Post »adjams
Posted on November 5, 2010 at 12:33am@UNTAMEABLE-KATE
Has this ever happened to you? I’ve heard of this happening once. I have experienced being in rooms full of pot smoke several times and have never gotten a contact high, it sounds like a rare thing to me anyway.
Even so I would still regard somebody smoking around their child as irresponsible
Let do apples and apples here. The real equivalent of your “dangerous” situation of children getting a contact high with parents spiking there children’s beverage. Not somebody smoking around them.
Are you for tobacco prohibition as well because of the dangers of second hand smoke?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo
I ask smokers all the time if they can:
take it outside
roll down the window
(in a group) have only one cig going at a time
or excuse myself and leave.
I can‘t believe you want something outlawed because you don’t want the “inconvenience” of having to leave when its happening.
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 8:44amThey found a tunnel that supplies drugs to California? Wow and I thought that Mexico’s largest agricultral crop was going to Brazil or something? It is called the Prop 19 chunnel..
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 12:52pmI‘m sure the progressives would be so pleased if we would all toke up and stay high so we are not paying attention to what’s going on in our country.
Report Post »WTP
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 8:44amIf only they could stop it all…….Great work.
Report Post »halfbrain
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 8:51amno demand=no supply
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:18amDemand is going nowhere. Drug laws just give politicians the control over supply. You think those cartels don’t cash up the elected officials to keep the control laws in place creating the monopoly. Legalize and change the risk reward structure and you will see the crime decrease.
Sinista Mace
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:48amThey had a plan to stop it all, they would infect mexican marijuana fields with a flesh eating fungus that eats your eyeballs out of your head.
It didn’t work, they didn’t want that crap out in the environment mutating into something unstoppable.
They also didn’t want Michelle, Barack, George Bush, His daddy, his Momma, Bill Clinton, Hillary, and Chelsea getting it in their eyes.
HKS
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 12:09pmDrugs may not be our biggest problem. It’s a gateway for anything.
Report Post »moonpeace
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 12:46pmOK, Let me start by getting this straight. I am no liberal, although to many what I’m about to say might make you think I am. In fact, I am one of the most conservative people I know. But not to the point of being ridiculous. In the 60s and 70s I smoked weed almost daily. It seemed like everyone did. I never really liked it, but did it because all my friends were smoking it. As I recall it made me feel paranoid. I have never been for legalization of drugs in general, but I admit I am having second thoughts when it comes to marijuana. In fact, I hate drugs, especially the ones that get people so addicted that they turn into obsessed, selfish, self-centered monsters, willing to do anything for another fix. And I do mean anything; lying, stealing, cheating, using, and even killing in the most bizarre cases, but those cases rarely, if ever, involve marijuana as the primary drug. Legal or not, people who want pot are smoking it as often as they want to. I believe it is just a matter of time before weed is legal across the nation. Sure, it starts with medical marijuana, but from there it will be totally legal in time. Were it legal, state and Federal governments would rake in billions from taxation. The drug could be tested and controlled tightly by government restrictions. The price would be lower. The biggest benefit I see is that we wouldn’t make criminals out of pot smokers. In 1970 a friend of mine served 5 years (every day of it) in prison after police pulled him over in Virginia and found a roach in his ashtray. Five years, that’s 1825 days, and all for a one inch piece of a joint. Legalization would free up law enforcement, giving them more time to investigate real crimes. We spend and have spent billions on drug enforcement…and it hasn’t done a thing to stop the use of pot. The money from earned taxes could be used for mandatory treatment in drug rehabs. After all, the only way people stop using drugs is when they no longer want to use drugs. That can only come through education and treatment. Sometimes I think we are still caught in the throes of the “Reefer Madness” syndrome that government once fed to us. In addition, we know now that alcohol is far more harmful than weed. I think that at the very least we should consider the decriminalization of possession of a small amount of pot. Just don’t make it a crime that marks a person for life. In addition, what else happens when someone is arrested for possession of even a small amount of weed. They have to pay bail money, money for a lawyer, fines and court costs, all capable of reaching into the thousands of dollars. Plus, worst of all, that criminal record. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not for legalization of drugs across the board. There is no place in society for heroin, cocaine, crack, crystal meth, etc. But we are talking about a weed here. Marijuana is not tied to the level of violence that is associated with other illegal drugs. People don’t go out and rob others to get a small bag of weed for one reason–there is no serious withdrawal attached to it. All I am saying is we should maybe research the idea and open it for discussion. Should we really ruin a life over this weed? No matter your opinion, I’m just asking you to research the pros and cons a little more. Believe me, there are a few cons to legalization, but weighed against the pros I believe the cons can’t hold water. Either way, I respect everyone’s opinion. Enjoy your day.
Report Post »We Are Not Alone
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 8:38am25 tons of pot….. send it to California
Report Post »DimmuBorgir
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 8:44amor to me, either way is fine with me
Report Post »thesixfour
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 8:45amLegalize it. This disappears.
snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 8:47amNo, let us send it unto the great golden land of milk and honey called DC, where the clouds of incense already flow like glistening beacons from the congress and white house, and great flags hang on each building declaring “Hey that was suppose to come here! Get your act togeather people and we will keep the border open for you!”
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Areyoukiddingme
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:09amHeard this was on its way to Barbra Boxers office.
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 9:21am@ We Are Not Alone, Please, NO!!! We have enough dope(s) here already!
Seriously tho, if we do not go back to paper ballots and counting within each precinct, we’ll never get another accurate count again. CO & NV Senate votes BOTH had electronic “glitches”
Report Post »JKN
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 10:06amBuild the Fence – Under and Above the southern Border – All 2,000 miles of it!
Report Post »drbage
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 10:20amCA already grows enough on its own. Perhaps we should divert it to CO where they seem to have gone way beyond John Denver’s “Rocky Mountain High.” Another fine example of Clownitano’s version of a secure border!
Report Post »Rogue
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 10:50amDrbage -please don’t send it to us here in Colorado. We’ve already been overrun by progressives who are quickly turning us into California in every aspect. I love my home state, but am completely embarassed that our population voted in a Dem Gov and Senator after seeing how they ran us into the ground over the last 4 years. This state is very popular with both East and West coasters who relocate. Progressivism is like a virus, and unfortunately, Colorado has been deeply infected.
Report Post »CharlieCobra
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 11:40amThis won’t go away if we legalize, it will just come over the border in semi trucks instead of a tunnel.
Report Post »Baytreepatriot
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 11:54am@thesixfour
wrong!
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 12:05pmWhy do we go after the dealers, the problem would be solved a lot quicker and with less violence if we just started shooting the users.
Report Post »moonpeace
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 12:44pmLet me start by getting this straight. I am no liberal, although to many what I’m about to say might make you think I am. In fact, I am one of the most conservative people I know. But not to the point of being ridiculous. In the 60s and 70s I smoked weed almost daily. It seemed like everyone did. I never really liked it, but did it because all my friends were smoking it. As I recall it made me feel paranoid. I have never been for legalization of drugs in general, but I admit I am having second thoughts when it comes to marijuana. In fact, I hate drugs, especially the ones that get people so addicted that they turn into obsessed, selfish, self-centered monsters, willing to do anything for another fix. And I do mean anything; lying, stealing, cheating, using, and even killing in the most bizarre cases, but those cases rarely, if ever, involve marijuana as the primary drug. Legal or not, people who want pot are smoking it as often as they want to. I believe it is just a matter of time before weed is legal across the nation. Sure, it starts with medical marijuana, but from there it will be totally legal in time. Were it legal, state and Federal governments would rake in billions from taxation. The drug could be tested and controlled tightly by government restrictions. The price would be lower. The biggest benefit I see is that we wouldn’t make criminals out of pot smokers. In 1970 a friend of mine served 5 years (every day of it) in prison after police pulled him over in Virginia and found a roach in his ashtray. Five years, that’s 1825 days, and all for a one inch piece of a joint. Legalization would free up law enforcement, giving them more time to investigate real crimes. We spend and have spent billions on drug enforcement…and it hasn’t done a thing to stop the use of pot. The money from earned taxes could be used for mandatory treatment in drug rehabs. After all, the only way people stop using drugs is when they no longer want to use drugs. That can only come through education and treatment. Sometimes I think we are still caught in the throes of the “Reefer Madness” syndrome that government once fed to us. In addition, we know now that alcohol is far more harmful than weed. I think that at the very least we should consider the decriminalization of possession of a small amount of pot. Just don’t make it a crime that marks a person for life. In addition, what else happens when someone is arrested for possession of even a small amount of weed. They have to pay bail money, money for a lawyer, fines and court costs, all capable of reaching into the thousands of dollars. Plus, worst of all, that criminal record. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not for legalization of drugs across the board. There is no place in society for heroin, cocaine, crack, crystal meth, etc. But we are talking about a weed here. Marijuana is not tied to the level of violence that is associated with other illegal drugs. People don’t go out and rob others to get a small bag of weed for one reason–there is no serious withdrawal attached to it. All I am saying is we should maybe research the idea and open it for discussion. Should we really ruin a life over this weed? No matter your opinion, I’m just asking you to research the pros and cons a little more. Believe me, there are a few cons to legalization, but weighed against the pros I believe the cons can’t hold water. Either way, I respect everyone’s opinion. Enjoy your day.
Report Post »Impeach-BO
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 12:48pmI agree with JKN. We need all of the border sealed. I said to build military bases ALL along the border. Anyone comes onto the property they get shot..just like ANYONE would, even US citizens.
The military can (and have the equipment) set up ground penetrating radar, etc. Locate any tunnels passing under.
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Posted on November 4, 2010 at 1:04pmThe real problem is the “victimless crime” laws. The 18th amendment (prohibition) did not work. The marijuana laws only insure that the distribution profits from marijuana go to organized crime. Prostitution is supposed to be the world’s oldest profession, so that law must not work either. Elimination of the “victimless crime laws” would allow the police to protect life and property and remove one of the anchors on the economy.
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jzs
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 1:04pmThis kind of thing only happens because Obama loves illegal immigrants and drugs. Except, of course, it happened with Bush too.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/23/international/americas/23mexico.html
On second thought, I don’t think this problem started with Obama, but I say blame him anyway.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 1:27pm“tobywil2
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 1:04pm
The real problem is the “victimless crime” laws. The 18th amendment (prohibition) did not work. The marijuana laws only insure that the distribution profits from marijuana go to organized crime. Prostitution is supposed to be the world’s oldest profession, so that law must not work either. Elimination of the “victimless crime laws” would allow the police to protect life and property and remove one of the anchors on the economy.
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The taxpayers are the victims as we pay for the stoned idiots to sit around and get so high they can barely hold down a job as strip club dj, liquor store clerk, or waiter. These are the bums that don’t have health care, the bums that voted for Obama, the bums that think socialism is great cause they are to damn lazy to produce.
Report Post »texasfarmer
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 3:15pmMoonpeace – If you are one of the most conservative people you know, you don’t know many conservatives.
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MadeInAmerica
Posted on November 4, 2010 at 3:59pmToby, regarding the tens of thousands murdered (in Mexico alone) because of marijuana/drug trafficking: if it were possible to ask them, how many of the truly innocent victims do you suppose would agree with your take on marijuana busts, ANYWHERE in the chain from grower to user, being so cavalierly labeled as ‘victimless crimes’? Get your head out of your ass, or out of that cloud of pot smoke. When it comes to drugs, there are NO ‘victimless’ crimes.
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