Homeland Security-Funded Study Lists People ‘Reverent of Individual Liberty’ as ‘Extreme Right-Wing’ Terrorists
- Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:00pm by
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Are you “reverent of individual liberty?“ Are you ”suspicious of centralized federal authority?“ Do you think there is a ”grave threat to national sovereignty and/or personal liberty?”
Well, then you fall into the category of “extreme right-wing” terrorist, according to a new study out of the University of Maryland, which was funded in part by the Department of Homeland Security.
The study, titled “Hot Spots of Terrorism and Other Crimes in the United States, 1970-2008,” was conducted by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (START) at the university. The organization has received roughly $12 million from DHS and is set to get another $3.6 million in future funding. It is also listed as one of DHS’s “Centers for Excellence” on the agency’s website.
The study says right-wing extremists are “groups that believe that one’s personal and/or national ‘way of life’ is under attack and is either already lost or that the threat is imminent.”
Further, right-wing extremist groups “believe in the need to be prepared” by taking part in “paramilitary preparations and training or survivalism.“ Groups may also be ”fiercely nationalistic“ and ”suspicious of centralized federal authority.”
Right-wing extremism also involves a belief in “conspiracy theories that involve grave threat to national sovereignty and/or personal liberty,” the study claims.
Interestingly, in an oversight that is not explained, the report barely mentions radical Islam. Instead the study lumps religious terrorist groups into one category and describes them as “groups that seen to smite the purported enemies of God and other evildoers, impose strict religious tenants or laws on society (fundamentalists), forcibly insert religion into the political sphere.”
The recently appointed director of the START center is Bill Braniff, who argues that widespread “Islamophobia” is present in law enforcement training materials. He was quoted in a July 2011 NPR article saying, “I think this is something that happens across the nation fairly consistently… No one is tracking this with numbers, but anecdotally we are hearing about it all the time. The Muslim-American community is being preyed upon from two different directions.”
According to START’s website, “Braniff has also taken a keen interest in the field of Countering Violent Extremism (CVE). He has consulted with the Department of Justice, the FBI and the National Security Staff, playing a key role in an interagency working group dedicated to the topic.”
So it shouldn’t be surprising that the study also appears to leave out some important data about “religious terrorism.” As pointed out by PJ Media:
In Table 4 (p. 22), titled “Hot Spots of Religious Terrorism by Decade”, three “hot spot” areas — Los Angeles, Manhattan, and Wasco, Oregon (former home of the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh) — are identified:
But there seems to be some data missing when it comes to known Islamic terrorist incidents in New York City and Los Angeles. The study shows no religious terrorism in Manhattan during the 1990s. How about the 1993 World Trade Center bombing? Or the 1994 Brooklyn Bridge Jewish student van shooting by Rashid Baz that killed 16-year-old Ari Halberstam after Baz heard a fiery anti-Jewish sermon at his local mosque? Or the 1997 Empire State Building observation deck shooting by Ali Abu Kamal that killed one tourist and injured six others before Kamal took his own life?
And then there was the 2002 shooting at the Los Angeles Airport El Al counter by Hesham Mohamed Hadayet that killed two and wounded four others. The FBI and Justice Department concluded that the attack was a terrorist attack by an Egyptian assailant bent on becoming a Muslim martyr.
These are reflected nowhere in the study. Perhaps, like the 2009 Fort Hood massacre by Major Nidal Hasan, who gunned down his U.S. Army colleagues while shouting “Allahu Akbar,” these incidents are considered acts of “workplace violence” and not religious terrorism?
Have these incidents been redefined to prevent facts from conflicting with an agenda-driven narrative? Or have these data points been excluded altogether?
To be sure, the definition of extreme left-wing terrorists describes the Occupy Wall Street movement almost perfectly:
Groups that want to bring about change through violent revolution rather than through established political processes. This category also includes secular left-wing groups that rely heavily on terrorism to overthrow the capitalist system and either establish a “dictatorship of the proletariat” (Marxist-Leninists) or, much more rarely, a decentralized, non-hierarchical political system (anarchists).
Other terrorist groups include “entho-nationalist/separatists” (think New Black Panther Party) and “single issue” organizations, such as “anti-abortion” advocates.
Further, taking a look at the START dataset’s codebook, two subgroups of “right-wing extremism“ were identified as ”gun rights“ and ”tax protest,” according to PJ Media.
The definition of “terrorism” seems to be expanding at an alarming rate as the federal government and other left-leaning scholarly institutions are increasingly classifying seemingly harmless actions such as cherishing personal liberty and opposing abortion as potential terrorist activity.
This isn’t the first time taxpayers have funded these types of terrorism “studies.”
For example, the FBI’s Communities Against Terrorism program recently classified things such as the bulk purchase of food and paying with cash at a coffee shop as indicators for potential terrorist activity.
It appears that anyone could be considered a terrorist these days, depending on who controls the interpretation of the information.

























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Comments (443)
DoomsdayProphet
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:04amCome get me.
Report Post »KevINtampa
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:22amMe first.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:38amI can trace my ancestry back to before the First Revolution and my 5 times Great-Grandfather Joseph Willoughby fought for freedom with CAPT DEWEY’S CO,COL ROBINSON, CAPT WOOD,COL HERRICK; MILITIA (from the DAR records) … I am proud to be a PATRIOT … or as they call it “reverent of individual liberty”
Report Post »MAMMY_NUNN
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 2:12amThey may get my body but thats all they will get.
Report Post »johnpaulkuchtajr
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 7:06amThere are plenty of us out here who feel the same way.
This nation has veered so far from the path of individual liberty that I barely recognize her.
Sooner or later, we’ll have to take her back from both Republicrats and Dumbocrats.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:27amAll that money and time and they’re still only .25 correct. Lame…
An “extreme right-wing” terrorist?
I’m not extreme, I am right, I don’t have wings, and I’m not a terrorist. I am on the record telling many around me, just about a month or so after 911, that soon they will considers us all terrorists.
Well… Here’s your sign.
Come get some.
Report Post »pacific_waters
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:37amThe idea that a specific mention of islam was an oversight is ludicrous. It’s government policy to give islamic terrorism a free pass.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:43amOne reason they dont bring the troops home…THEY DO NOT WANT A COUP!
Report Post »starman70
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:49amPatriots for over 200 years have fought and died to protect MY INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM AND LIBERTY!
If these idiots (Including “Big Sis”) want to classify me as a terrorist, then so be it! I was, am and always be reverent of Individual Liberty. I am a veteran, I also cling to my Bible and my Guns!
Barak, I will be exercising my “INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY” in November to remove you and your assenine henchmen from office and replace you with people who honor the Declaration of Independance and the Constitution of the UNITED STATES!
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:58amDr. Paul and his supporters tried to warn all of you ignorant dumba warmongering Zionist/Christians who worship the Jewish Apartheid but you just wouldn’t listen… No you demand tyranny! Well it’s coming… Maybe your ignorant good for nothing pathetic lives will be expired by the time it truly comes into effect or not but your children and grandchildren will have the utmost benefit of a life of tyranny which their ignorant fathers and mothers set up for them… Sure they will be very thankful..
My forefathers fought for and acquired liberty for me, my generation, and the ones before us but this WW2 generation and baby boomers gen are just some of the most uneducated ignorant and selfish (baby boomers) human beings to ever walk the earth…. But don’t worry your children and grandchildren will suffer most of the consequences of your most glaring ineptitude.. Thanks baby boomers! And the WW2 generation is not without fault either since they came home from the War and let their masters do any and everything in the name of equality.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:07am@starman70: (Fist-Bump)
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:09am@techengineer11: I sense you are very confused.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:18amstarman70: Interesting that on another blog I’m reasoning with Dr. Paul supporters that Republicans are less bad and more to be desired than Dems; however, I come back to the Blaze and the majority of people are just completely unaware that our problem is not really a Democrat problem per say (although they are more of a threat) but a Liberty problem.. … Both Rs and Ds are complicit in attacking Liberty. Remember Romney also supports the provision in the NDAA wich gives the President the authority to determine who is and who is not a terrorist in America… lol
Now that’s where we are at today.. Dr. Paul tried to educate all of you ignorant and blind asses but you wanted your Wars.. You closed your ears to the sage because you love your FOX News and Glenn Beck… lol Well you’re going to get a little taste of tyranny very soon as I mentioned above.. Your children and grandchildren will bare the brunt of it but I‘m sure you’ll get a little taste too.
Report Post »Thomas_Jefferson
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 10:05amHomeland Security-Funded Study Lists People ‘Reverent of Individual Liberty’ as ‘Extreme Right-Wing’ Terrorists
& what do they say about the Nation of Islam & the New Black Panther Party?
Report Post »Duey2000
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 10:06amGlad I made the list…
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 10:10amyou won’t take me alive!
Report Post »nomansfool
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 11:10amSome of this crap just burns my a$$!
Report Post »chazmo
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 11:24amme too…
Report Post »lordjosh
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 11:31am“Individual Liberty”? “National sovereignty”?
How about “individual sovereignty”? Now that must make me a “super terrorist”!
Report Post »Cemoto78
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:26pmI am guilty as charged by the DHS.
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:32pmSo if your views line up with the founders and George Washington then you are an extreme right wing terrorist. But if your views line up with Al Qaeda then you are a patriot.
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:08pmI just don’t know where to start. I presume they would want us to give all controlling power to a central government. Lets see, the list is something like this.
Report Post »Soviet Union and East Bloc
China under Mao
Cuba under the Castro brothers
Zimbabwe under Mugabe
Uganda under Idi Amin Dada
Cambodia under Pol Pot
Afghanistan under the Taliban
Northern Pahk ees Stahn under the you guessed it the Taliban
Laos
Saudi Arabia
North Korea under any of the Kim Ils
Myanmar
Panama under pineapple face
Nicaragua under Ortega
Venezuela under Chavez
Colombia under the drug cartels
Northern Mexico ditto cartels
Italy under Mussolini
Rome under Caligula
and number one
Europe 1939-1945
Yeah I think I prefer individual liberty.
starman70
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:14pm@Techengineer11
You are right about many of Dr. Paul’s ideas. He expounds the libertarian view to the Nth degree. As far as wanting wars? If we don’t stop the Isalmic takeover of the world and put a stop to the pandering to these people in Washington, it won’t be but a few generations away that your great grandchildren will be living under Shariah Law and will have NO individual freedoms what so ever. Look back at the history before WWII. Chamberlin visited Hitler and then returned to England claiming that Hitler didn’t want war, that he was a peaceful politician and that all of Europe could live in peace and that he wouldn’t attack anybody.
Keep the government out of my affairs, my business and my domicile but don’t lose sight of the fact that there are those, especially Communists, Neo Nazis and Islamics who would attack America and rule her with an iron fist.
Glenn is a very voiciferous exponent for Individual Liberties. He believes that for America to regain her original glory, government MUST get out of the way and alllow the private sector and innovative inventors to be allowed to thrive without being saddled with incessant regulations from Washington. He, however knows that without constant vigilance, those bent on destroying this country will gain the upper hand. They are plotting right now. They are trying to figure out how to make the public lose all faith in our government giving them an open door to a Islamo-Facist or Communist dictatorship.
Report Post »bigben357mag
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:14pmI guess I’m a Right-wing Terrorist too! :) Goodie! To DHS, KISS MY GLOCK!!
Report Post »Anti_Spock
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 2:51pmThis includes our founding fathers. I’ll gladly belong with that group.
Report Post »Endyr
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 3:00pmno no no, me first
Report Post »Zorba53
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 3:57pmAt least I’ll have good company in the “re-education” camps… IF they can disarm us. That is the conundrum for these idiots… how to disarm us. They’ll try, but I think they should stick with sleeping in the parks of New York!!!
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 4:00pmWhat you are seeing is the Government begining and funding their justification for the coming Genocide of the Tea Party and its like minded patriots.
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 4:12pmDo you remember the first attempt at this by DHS in 2009 when they named returning decorated veterans of Iraq and Afganistan as the number one terrorist threat to the United States of America?
Report Post »So if you love this country to the point of fighting its battles and putting your life on the line then you are the number one threat to the Federal Government and what it is attempting to do? What does this action say about the Federal Government and those running it and how they feel about its Patriots?
techengineer11
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 5:27pmstarman70: Are you speaking of the Chamberlain that was PM of England back in the late 20s early 30s when they occupied about a dozen African Asian nations and the entire country of India? Is that the one that was afraid that Hilter may want a piece of Poland back? lol ok
Really don’t want to go there but the Islamic takeover… Do you think they’d be trying to fight us if we were not in their countries? I mean why did Bin Laden say he wanted to attack us? No we’re over there! and we’ve been over there since WW1! And we’ve been eploiting their lands… for god’s sakes how could they not hate us?
No theres no Islamic takeover and they way to deal with that pathetic religion is through enforcement of Immigration laws not Wars!!! My god it’s amazing… Why not just keep them out of our country through our Immigration laws? Of course they were perverted back in 1965 but it would be easier to fix that then to fight enternal Wars…
Makes me angry.. Just plain dumb.
Back to WW2, Hilter was Bad but was he worse than Stalin and Lenin? lol Seriously why not an uproar over the millions of innocent people slaughtered by Lenin and Stalin before WW2 ever started? No NYT articles on those massacres were there? Hilter didn’t kill millions before WW2.. Not even dozens.. Yet he had to be stopped at all cost.. Don’t you see the hypocrisy? I‘d think that even a two yr old could see it but people don’t…
Report Post »Freelyn
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 5:31pmSo our Founding Fathers were Right-Wing Terrorists. I guess we are amongst good company. Of course we mistrust Government, we have to, it is the only way to keep the evil of Government in check. It doesn’t mean we do so through mindless terrorist violence.
So yes, Every day I am ”suspicious of centralized federal authority?“ and I do think that there is a ”grave threat to national sovereignty and/or personal liberty?” They are called Progressives and they believe in a large centralized Government that can fix all citizens problems. Many of them of them are so wrapped up in this ideology as to not think any further to what will happen when they get all the power they seek.
I think history amply shows what happens and it isn’t in the benefit of individual freedom.
So our Founding Fathers told us to be ever vigilant and wrote down on God given rights, including the RIGHT to bear arms. They knew that some day, we might just have to “Man Up” just as they did against the British Centralized Authority, who was a grave threat to our national sovereignty and personal liberty.
Happy Fourth of July everyone and remember, there is NO such thing as a Right-Wing Terrorist. Conservatives don’t do violence against individuals they only fight big Centralized Authorities and they do it through the system unless no other option exists and then they follow Thomas Jefferson.
http://batr.org/solitary/090503.html
Report Post »KC1
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 6:18pmAgain you supporters of Romney have nothing to worry about, they are only concerned with true patriots, constitutionalists. Those of you willing to kiss the boot of the Progressive Republicans are not considered threats, in fact it is the opposite you are some of their most useful idiots. They will continue to spoon feed you Big Govt bumper sticker philosophy and at the same time convince you that the constitutionalists “Paulinistas” among you are to be feared and hated so when the time comes to shred us of our last scrap of liberty the Progressive GOP and Dems can claim a great victory in the name of compromise, sanity and progress. It is the libertarians, the constitutionalist, that are the true freedom loving patriots that are feared by the Govt, and for good reason.
Report Post »000degrees
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 6:44pmcolor me extreme….Happy 4th of July to all
Report Post »teaisstronger
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 11:00pmI am “reverent of individual liberty.“ I have a Gadston ”Don’t Tread On Me” flag flying in front of my house. Those mystery weapons the Government thinks we fear will be turned on them.
People who want to be Free are now the enemy of the Federal Government. We will see…
Report Post »teaisstronger
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 11:08pmProud to be on the list. We are going to make one of the most devastating forces any Government has faced. The Federal Government knows it coming to an end. The USSR died for the same reason the Federal Government is ending. They take us for fools.
Report Post »Steelheadisadouche
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 10:30amTech
Report Post »I personally think you are engineering your false anger. Glad to see it either way. As a native American colonialist that doesn’t like the taste of dog, I actually hope you get stuck in one of your engineered, self induced kiniption fits-at least Paul has experience in mental/medical field.
Suz617
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 11:06amToo bad this organizations targets patriots, and liberty loving Americans. Wonder why they don’t name Muslims as part of the hate groups… this video (see link) is enough to tell you just who the real terrorists are!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7S7c5jFSZc
Report Post »MittensKittens
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 12:57pmAs far as I‘m concerned someone can nuke Maryland and I wouldn’t cry about it…
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 2:51pmTechEngineer
You are really screwed. What are you going to do after November?
Report Post »Misty Williams
Posted on July 9, 2012 at 11:36amInterestingly, the report also lists Extreme Left Wing, Religious, Ethno-Nationalist/Separatist, and Single Issue groups/individuals as potential terrorists. After reading their descriptions of what makes a person a terrorist, its very clear that our government, and their lackeys in academia have decided that any person who is aware of and willing to fight against the evils of a corrupt government, anyone who will point out that the government even MIGHT be corrupt or out of line, anyone who will not go along with the status quo to preserve the government’s power is qualified as a potential terrorist threat. It is not just we the right wing that should be made uncomfortable because of this. It is ANYONE who sees and states that this government is abusing it’s power. So, to not be a terrorist, you must be silent, be unaware, and be fooled. Be absorbed in American Idol, NFL, the events at the Roman Stadium, play a violin while Rome burns, but for Heaven’s sake, DON’T be aware of corruption, and for your own good, DON’T talk about it. And if you want to be assured of prosperity, vote how they tell you to vote and DO NOT oppose the current administration.
Since when has being a Good, patriotic American meant becoming a drone??
By this measure, Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Henry, Madison, Hancock, Adams, and all the rest of our founders were terrorists.
This Government is out of control, and corrupt to it’s core. Time for REAL change.
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:02am…and here’s the MIAC Report from a few years ago, that NAMES Ron Paul:
Report Post »http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/
joan k
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:48amThis almost 60 year old mama still has a HUGE Ron Paul sign on the back window of my Nissan Rogue. SO I guess that makes me a terrorist now. What is really sad is that those sections in the NDAA were passed (even by some so called Republicans who support the constituion). So now any US President can deem one a terrorist, then just round you up and detain you without due process. Sounds like those FEMA camps may actually be true. And here I thought it was all some kind of conspiracy.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 11:52amI guess all my God given liberty is going to get me into trouble. Oh well my don’t tread flag is flying and I keep sending money to the NRA and gasp donate to the church and gospel mission. I must be a nut case according to the feds.
Report Post »BryanB
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:58pmI demand a new study that will study this new study, so we can all study it.
Now say this ten times with Peanut Butter in your mouth, so we can complete this study……..
Pray for Jett……….
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:25amHi Bryan,
I had to go into my food storage for the peanut butter. Realized I forgot the Grape Jelly. Now it’s hard to say anything. : )
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 2:08amWhat’s up MONK? I‘m sort of sitting up late tonight since I don’t expect to do much tomorrow until the cook out. My son had a lot of fun with that 500.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 2:21amHey RJJ,
Have a great 4th of July and let me know what you thought of my theory. Glad to hear you guys had fun with the MB 500. I have no plans for a cook out for the 4th this year. Just trying to hang in.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 2:34amMONK, I hear you Bud, and wish you the best 4th as possible. Will drop you an email tomorrow on that article. Furthermore, regardless of anybody’s political affiliation, I wish all of you the best 4th of July as well. After all, we are for the most part Americans here. NZKIWI hoist a cold one tomorrow too.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 2:44amGot it RJJ,
The best to you and yours also. : )
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 3:03amHey MONK. at least stop by the local Lums and have a beer steamed dog and a tall schooner of your most favorite. Or, am I still living in the past?
Report Post »AllLost
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:56pmTo a communist government I am certain a person who cherishes personal liberty is considered a terrorist. As I recall the USSR, China, and others have murdered, imprisoned and disappeared many a right wing extremist like myself.
It’s a progressive world and America has been lost.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:58amI don‘t believe it’s a commie government that is the issue. I think it‘s a global government that’s is pushing this nonsense. Keep in mind reverence to individual liberty is only one qualifier. Suspicion to centralized power, adversion to global governance, people who accept conspiracy theories, and reverence to national sovereignty along with a love for individual liberty is who they’re looking at. In other words, establishment Republicans who can be controlled by media propaganda (voted legal by MANY on the so called right in Washington) will be fine. You know the people that still believe we’re free because Fox dismissed the severity of the NDAA, Patriot Act, etc.. People buying into the illusion by the CFR owned news that there’s a difference between Republican and Democrat tyranny are fine. (for now) Who are the people that fit ALL the qualifiers? The Libertarians. BTW think globalist, statist Bilderberg Romney will dismiss this report? I know most of you don’t like us and wish the Libertarians would just go away, but is OK if we’re murdered, detained, etc. without due process because we think differently?
Report Post »capitalismrocks
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:49pmWow… so if you believe in individual rights over being a part of the collective, you’re an extremist, well paint me extreme !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »TexasHunter
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:01amMy name is Sean Cole. Sing me up! I am tired of this sht. If you are going to do this BHO remember why Japan never invaded. OUR soldiers have OUR back too!
Report Post »FreeCarolJoy
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:01amMe, too. I r one.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:40amSo basically everything it means to be an American is now illegal, lets change the way we think and destroy our history while we’re at it.
RLTW I will never forget!
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 6:53amTexasHunter
Report Post »Which ones
The gang bangers
The gays
The cair members
All things are done for a reason!
Cemoto78
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:32pmHomeland security is running scared. They know the military will never sign on to this along with the vast majority of law enforcement. Both of these groups swear an oath to uphold and defend the constitution form enemies both foreign and domestic. Guess which one Homeland Security falls under! We are allowing this overbearing federal government to take away our God given freedoms and rights. The next truly American thing to do is cut off all monies to the Feds.
Report Post »Cavallo
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:47pmEnjoy your 4th of July. LOL.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:41amYou mean dependence day?
Report Post »chazmo
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 11:32am@RLTW not any more…
Report Post »momrules
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:43pmSo the Muslim Brotheerhood is not a terrorist organization but I am a terrorist.
Now come on ya’ll. Is this pure evil or not?
Report Post »socialism.rocks
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:54pmevery teaparty memember i have known talks about doing rebellion everywhere online….its common even here on the blaze how you talk about violence against liberals voilence against government how you will not follow the rule of law how the liberals are traitors how you guys are going to take your country back all signs of terrorism treason
you are a terrorist all conservatives have been terrorists since 1776
Report Post »FreeCarolJoy
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:04amI obviously am as the airport always pulls me over. I am a grandmother with a cpap machine. We know how many of us have attempted terrorism. Then there are the gray haired folks in wheelchairs that really get pawed. What a great country this used to be.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:08amSocialismrocks………..You should be happy, happy, happy. Your dreams of a dictator run America is here. Get ready to wear out your knees bowing and scraping. You are going to love it.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:09am@ socialism………………
get help
Report Post »Cavallo
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:33am“all conservatives have been terrorists since 1776”
Like Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Madison. Count me among those terrorists.
Report Post »Conservative New Yorker
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:35am@ Momrules- he’s a useful idiot. Look at what Stalin and Hitler did to their thugs. Once they served their masters, they were eliminated (killed).
Such is their fate by their keepers- they just don’t know it yet.
Report Post »TexasHunter
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:42amAt Social WE are PATRIOTS I will fight tooth and nail for OUR REPUBLIC. You get that? Go to Russia and see how socialism Rocks Idiot. You were blessed to be in the USA and I will be blessed to keep it the USA. My best friend is a marine and he always asked why not join? Well there also needs to be soldiers here. I am ONE. Meet me and you shall see.
Report Post »@MOMRULES I swear to you as a defendant of the Constitution of the US I will always defend our liberty. You are always safe in my life. God Bless You.
CatB
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:42am@SOCIALIST .. I have been told by your ilk .. that we are NOT violent and that is OUR PROBLEM .. that we do not instill fear .. what is it ..???
CatB ….. Proud decendent of Revolutionary War Veteran.
Report Post »Absalom
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 2:29am@Socialism,
Manamana!!!
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 2:38amSocialism sucks – What about the violence that you precious OWS bums have committed? You’re the ones who are the true terrorists.
Report Post »mercenary4freedom
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 3:45amEhhhh, these dems don’t like people standing up to their attempt @ control. Clinton admin was the same way. Hell he, Janet Reno & Eric holder were the ones behind Ok City bombing to make it look like right wing exttremists McVey & his buddies….
ENCINOM, SOCIALIST ROCKHEAD, you dudes crack me up…hahahahahahahahahaha…HISTORY BUFF , REALLY?
Report Post »100 Million Patriots Standing
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:13amIt’s not quite funny that leftist/Socialist/Marxist hang out on right wing blogs for the purpose of trying to insult ‘right wing extremist’ as defined by a left wing study. What a sad life, defending an ideal that not only strips people of their personal liberty but also blast them for simply desiring to be an individual. The left blog watchers are worshipping the central planners they adore now without assuming that a more sinister core may arise in the future. They are only ‘assuming’ that their children will want to be soci0-communist as well. Not everyone wants Marx over Jefferson. Not everyone wants to elevate all of the natural world while enslaving man with policy. Not everyone desires to be directed at every level. And we never will. It’s just not human nature to be captive.
Report Post »greatgrandma
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 1:22amthe Muslim Brotherhood is in charge of DHS thanks to Obama
Report Post »wzanesdad
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:37pmhmmmm…weren’t ALL the founders for individual liberty? Doesn’t the constitution spell that out? I think I’ll stick to the founders ideas…..(psssst…that’s closer to what God wants for us too)
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:34pmIt sounds more like anybody who threatens to vote against the Democrats is considered a national terrorist. Watch for DHS armbands at your polling stations this November.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:52pmThey’re just talking about people like Timothy McVeigh, Byron WIlliams, Anders Behring Breivik, Scott Roeder and other right wing mass murderers. They’re just talking about white Supremecy groups and other right wing groups who have committed or are threatening violence. Of course there are other right wing groups threatening violence.
But, let‘s don’t talk about them. That’s not PC! How dare you bring it up?!
Report Post »dataweaver
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:15amJZS: the point of the story is that the report _doesn’t_ include “advocates the use of violence” in its definition for right-wing terrorism, and thus is painting with a _much_ broader brush than the names you mentioned. Is the story misrepresenting the report?
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:33amJZS, again painting with your favorite broad brush are you? By your answer I can only ask if you bothered to read any of the story, because it is obvious that you did not read all of it. If you did, you are doing a magnanimous job of stretching.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:56amJZS, Oh yeah, noticed that you carefully left out those left wing murderers. Let’s start with the Uni-Bomber, and since you mentioned Breivik who is not American, lets also go with Britain’s Dennis Nilsen, and as much as the media tried to make Jared Loughner seem to be a conservative, he turned out to be a crazed left winger. Timothy McVeigh had some shady ties to Islam, and was said to have been an associate of one of the ‘93 WTC bombing. Somebody that we should have kept an eye on, but even Slick Willy could not fully white wash him as a conservative. I was at Ft Irwin in the California desert when that happened and listened to the radio daily while the WH tried so hard to claim this was the action of conservatives who obviously listened to Rush Limbaugh every day. We’ll continue with Shayne Riggleman, Amy Bishop, Lee Harvey Oswald, Sirhan – Sirhan, The Manson Family, Weather Underground, Symbionese Liberation Army, Jim Jones, yes, Jim Jones was a lefty, Joe Stack, well, I could go on, but I suspect that you will call me a liar, and demand that I prove this. I say, just read the names. If you don’t recognize some, you just don’t know as much about history as you sometimes claim. Yeah, I left out obvious names like Che, Castro, and other communist leaders. But, you might want to take a peek at:
http://democracyreform.blogspot.com/2007/08/why-are-worst-mass-murderers-from-left.html
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 2:05amENCINOM, What, filtering the article through your rose colored glasses again? You really make me laugh at the crap that comes from your fingertips. BTW, back up this claim with something we can sink our teeth into. I’ll gladly read it.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 2:56amRJJINGADSDEN – Don’t forget to include OWS as terrorists. The hypocritical left who claims that the Tea Party is a threat to this country won’t condemn the violence that occurred at OWS protests.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 11:09amGIT-R-DONE, Point well taken, and I do wonder how I missed that. But, in the past JZS has referred to the OWS personnel as brave heroes. LOL, heroes who shout and scream profanities at children, consume massive amounts of illicit drugs, dump buckets of human waste in a bank vestibule where the atms are located, not to mention taking a dump on a police cruiser. Yep, wonderfully brave miscreants.
Report Post »chazmo
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 11:39am@RJJ he won’t.. he comes here does a drive by and get’s us stirred up and leaves… I sometimes think he is a plant… get the posts up. But, if not he is a loser.. either way.
Report Post »affinity
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:33pmWe are in deep, deep, trouble. Homeland Security already doesn’t respect individual rights. If you haven’t begun preparing than this article should give you some inspiration.
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:30pmThe once great United States of America, home of the free and the brave.
Report Post »Excuse me. I need to pull out a movie, The Patriot or Patton sounds good. I long for the good ‘ol days.
planecrashlaw
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:51pmBirth of a Nation, perhaps?
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:06amSorry, but the only people who had a copy of that was a former democrat congressman who had an association with the heroes of that particular movie.
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:28pmThey try to put fear of this and that or the other into people, divide and sub divide and control even what people eat, what they say, how they think and try shaming, they lie, deceive and misdirect people until they realize sooner or later the anger will be directed at them. They hope to have everything in place when it happens and the American citizen to be unarmed. These are cowards. We better get rid of these people and get Holder out even before the elections.
Report Post »dataweaver
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:28pmInteresting how they left out “advocates or uses violence to promote their agenda” from their definition of terrorism.
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:23pmSign me up. These people need to be overthrown at the voting booth or impeached and fired.
Report Post »Red Meat
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:30pmDHS, another gift from Bush.
Where is the outrage from the Republican Congress?
Report Post »Diane TX
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:23pmNothing like a study that has preconceived conclusions, and only includes the “data” that reinforces those conclusions. Similar with what the “scientists” did with global warming “studies”’
We should all just laugh at these fools.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:41pmI would agree if these people didn’t have the power of arrest! But as luck would have it: We have the power of the vote.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:18amI do. hahaha.
Report Post »uffdaubet
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:21pmIf being reverant of individual liberty qualifies one for the DHS list then SIGN ME UP!!!!!!! Happy Indepependence Day to all my fellow Americans. The rest of you can catch the next flight to Cuba you idiots.
Report Post »socialism.rocks
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:58pmthe founders blasted only one political idealogy in the face during the american revolution
the torries the conservatives you all been traitors since 1776 individual liberty?
i dont know one founder who was against the union “out of many one” oh those commie founders ha ha ha tell them to move to cuba
Report Post »con-Conservative revisionism you can be revisionists all day long but everything that a con-Conservative spews is outright lies
RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:41amSOCIALISM.ROCKS, naturally you twit. The Tory Party was a British political party and it’s members in the colonies remained faithful to the king. Now, how in the hell can you paste that premise on the American Republican Party? The Republican Party was founded by the American anti-slavery expansion activist circa 1854. I suggest that you remove you head from your fourth point of contact and do some actual research for yourself. Just because you may have read “conservative” regarding another part of world history, it certainly does not apply to all things considered conservative.
Report Post »Action-Not-Just_Words
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:51am@SocRock… do you have a brain?
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:09amsocialism sinks socialism robs the individual of rights, and can’t function at all without violence or the threat of violence. If you can look further back in history than George W, you could see that socialism has never been people friendly, or very efficient. Look at the last three years!! We are bleeding out. The liberal catch word is ‘democracy’. I guess the definition of the word is now “collective herd voting, to assure entitlement”. Worthless freaks, standing in line to get what they have not earned.
Report Post »Absalom
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 2:55am@Socialism,
Your inability to comprehend history shows your are either naive or ignorant…the later being the most likely. Just because Democrats stole the label “Liberal” does not mean they are anything near the original definition; in fact they are anything but. They are more Hobbes than Locke, believing the sovereign of a nation is the king, or in this case a central government body. Furthermore, the Founders no more approved of Democracy (mob rule) than they would of the ideology you so proudly align yourself with. The concept that government is an inherently evil but necessary body fostered their principles and the reasons behind why they wrote the Constitution the way they did. And yet you decry these beliefs within others in these threads whilst espousing your support for one of the evilest forms of government conceived. Yes, I rest my case…You are ignorant.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 11:15amABSALOM,
Report Post »SOCIALISM.ROCKS is more like Calvin of Calvin and Hobbes fame. Very juvenile at best. At least Calvin was funny.
SFC J Simmons_US Army_ Retired
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 2:55pmSocialism.Suks
Report Post »But not nearly as much as Obama Supporters!
Question: Are you really that stupid or is that BS you spew something you learned in “Hating America 101”?
Inlightofthings
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 10:05pmROCKS:
“out of many one” E Pluribus Unum
Out of the 2.5 million from various lands in the colonies at the founding, is it possible they were referring to currency and not a social order?
Report Post »Tree_Butcher
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:20pmNow that the enemies of the nation have been allowed to define things, anyone suspicious or critical of the government is now an enemy (wasn’t that defined as Patriotism when Bush was in office?). Anyone who dares protest taxes, speak out against collectivism, promotes the “anarchy of the individual”, believes they have rights is now an enemy of the state.
In our (Now) Socialist Democracy, Communist ideals are patriotic, Republic freedoms are a threat to the state.
With that criteria, if I’m not on that list, I’m not doing enough. For my soul’s sake, I hope to be on top!
Report Post »dataweaver
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:40pmRepublic freedoms have always been a threat to the state: “When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.” etc.
Report Post »Diane TX
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:41pmLook what they did with nationalized health care. Pre-Øbama, only the far left saw some far reaching urgency that “everyone” had to have health insurance. Most of the center and right believed that most that wanted health insurance had it, and that the “poor” had it through Medicaid. Now the question from the media is Not – do you believe that everyone should have health insurance, run by the government?, but – if Øbama Care is repealed, how are you going to pay so that everyone has health insurance?
It’s assumed that at some imaginary point, everyone has agreed that “everyone has to have health insurance”. That’s just nuts.
Report Post »Rajabear1
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 10:37am@diane texas-Good catch! I noticed the same thing. And it is coming from ‘both’ sides of the msn. fox reporters are framing the question the same exact way when interviewing. I couldn’t help thinking “ahh, progressives. Rule one, always start out with a false premise”
Report Post »I, too, would like to know how it is now a question of how to cover everyone rather than should we be covering everyone-with med ins. Why do they insist that there should be a new healthcare law? Why isn’t the assumption that it is time for the fed gov to back out of the healthcare industry? If anything, to release the restrictions they created in the first place that caused medical care to sky rocket? Let the states implement hardcore restrictions on legal suits? And so on…
And while I’m on this little tangent, Why are they assuming that everyone believes that ‘kids’ should be covered till their 26? Another false premise…
KC1
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:18pmWell most of you Romney supporters will be ok, they seem to only be concerned with people who are afraid of losing their liberties and want to preserve the Constitution. Lucky for you guys… turns out not having principals has an up side.
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:26pmWe have to go with what we got. I wanted Allan West or Rick Santorum.
Report Post »KC1
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:46pmHa Santorum and West really? They both support the NDAA and Patriot Act. You got nothing to worry about double b, they are only concerned about Constitutionalist not RINOs “who will go with what ever the establishment gives them”.
Report Post »TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:34amThere is no question I will support Mitt Romney. He may not please us in every way but you think we should gung ho for Obama? God forbid. It is imperative we should save our country. At least Romney is a capitalist and his father was in politics. We can replace him easier than year round liar in chief. How is that economy now? Hopey changy? We just do another hopey changey and maybe we find a winner. Besides just think of how much fun we can have with him being grandpa of about 17 grandchildren? You think he wants his children and all his grandchildren to live in a socialist society? I don’t.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 10:28amthere basically communists and they don’t even know it.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:17pmWhen the first unhinged nut-job on “our side” finally snaps and double-taps a few folks (civilian, elected official, or bureaucrat), it’s going to be Media Game Over. What then?
Report Post »P.S., All it will take to make him on “our side” is any evidence of connection to Rush, et al. Up to and including car stereo memory.
RLTW
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:25pmI agree, but even with all the deliberate pushing from the progressives over the last 4 years it hasn’t happened and I hope it doesn’t.
Hold the line
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:15pmPatriots are Terrorists, now… because the real terrorists run the Government!
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:01amAll I can say about this article is
Shaka, when the walls fell.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:11pmLets see, I am a Christian chaplain, conservative, limited government, freedom loving, pro life and pro free market member of society who speaks out against the Marxist dictatorship Obama is building; so I guess as a loyal Son of Liberty, I am therefore on the terrorist list for “to be taken out first as a domestic terrorist” when Obama gives the orders for the drones to fire upon us.
Report Post »bobefann
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:18pmThe funny thing is he would take action against us before he would actual terrorists. I believe this with every ounce of my being.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:40pmSNOW>………..Exactly! I am everything you are except being a Chaplain and a man. I am a proud Christian, freedom loving, socialist hating American woman who has just been declared a terrorist by the American government.
As real as it is I still find it hard to believe.
Report Post »pwatkins
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:11amCount me in to and we will need a chaplain in the fema camps Snow…lol. I pray for the real terrorists to be identified in November. I am sure we could save some money on that study if the people would open their eyes.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:55amIgnorant knuckle dragging Beckerheads beating their chest over a poorly written article that misrepresents a University report. I bet the good Chaplin didn’t read the damn report before he decide to become a self appointed chat room martyr. Nothing like watching Beck pulling the strings of his paranoid followers, like Palov ringing the bell for his dog, you know what the well trained response will be.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 2:29amENCINOM, I assume that you mean this story:
Report Post »http://start.umd.edu/start/publications/research_briefs/LaFree_Bersani_HotSpotsOfUSTerrorism.pdf
That is linked in the above article?
Wow, they so carefully left out the actually terrorist activities of Muslims such as both attacks on the WTC, Pentagon, and what resulted as the Shanksville, PA crash, and along with numerous other attacks and the Ft Hood mass murdering Muslim. Gee, imagine that?
Meyvn
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:21am@encinom: I’m pretty sure your an expert on all things Pavlonian.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 11:34amMEYVN, OBAMA_SHAM has posted here that ENCINOM is actually comedian and actor Ramsey Moore. If that is true and I have no way of proving it, but if so, take a look at his pictures and some video clips available on the net. If he wants to call anybody knuckle dragging morons, he really should take a good look in a mirror…a double wide mirror at that. If anybody is a fat, hairy assed knuckle dragging moron of an ape, it is ENCINOM.
Report Post »Take a look if you dare:
http://trialx.com/celebrities/2011/07/01/ramsey-moore-pictures/
If you can stomach the view, just run his name through your search engine.
bobefann
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:07pmSo now the government claims the ‘people who take up arms to protect freedom and the constitution against tyranny’ is terrorism now. Well my friends… we have a WHOLE lot more terrorists in this country than they think.
Report Post »planecrashlaw
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:49pmBob:
The whole problem that the government (and I) have against you is that you are willing to take up arms and overthrow the duly elected President because the Supreme Court upheld a mild health care bill that gives the uninsured better access to health insurance.
You will never see these people, the fact that they are getting health care will cost you pennies, and you life will not change. And yet you are willing to kill me and my President because we disagree. But you wonder why the Government is concerned about you?
Report Post »pudssweetie
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:05am@Planecrashlaws, You are a fool if this is what you truly think. I am an individual who will make my own decisions on what is best for me and my family. I do not need the Government dictating my life or my family’s life when I am more than capable of taking care of me and my family. I do not need the Government forcing me and my family to purchase something that I am capable of doing myself. If I want or need Health Insurance I can either get it through a job or purchase it on my own and don’t need the Government telling me otherwise. I will not vote for Obama in Nov. not just because of the Healthcare Bill, but based upon every other thing he has done that has made our lives worse in this country. Last but least, the only bloody twits that will vote for Obama are the Blind, Deaf, Indoctrinated and Unions and their members. NOBAMA 2012
Report Post »encinom
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 2:01am@Puddie Tat, its clear you have no understand what is in the Healthcare law (you get to keep the coverage you have) or Obama’s record. All you can do is repeat the lies that Fox News and Beck have drilled into the barren space between your ears.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 2:35amEncinom – Since when have you Marxist terrorists ever been able to read? All you know how to do is spew out Marxist propaganda spoonfed to you from ABC, NBC, CBS, and PBS.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:23am@encinom: Uh… You no understand.
It’s not about healthcare. It’s about government control. In short, Tyranny. WTFU fool.
Report Post »tzion
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 4:58pm@Encinom
Report Post »You clearly don’t understand the very law you support. In order for the government to penalize those who don’t purchase insurance they must first decide what factors will be used to determine if you are “sufficiently covered”. If you current coverage isn’t considered “sufficient” by the IRS guess what? You CAN keep it but you will be penalized for doing so. The government can now control health insurance companies by threatening to not allow their customers to be exempted from the penalty.
AugustKat
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 6:52pmThe ‘healthcare law’ cost me pennies? Try dollars, and lots of them–and the IRS gets to snoop into your records. The way the law is structured, it appears to be ‘benefits now/tax later’–most of the taxes take effect during the second term (heaven forbid) or AFTER Obama leaves office.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obamacare#Provisions
–A 10% sales tax on indoor tanning took effect (July 2010).
Report Post »–Employers must disclose the value of the benefits they provided beginning in 2012 for each employee‘s health insurance coverage on the employees’ annual Form W-2′s. This requirement was originally to be effective January 1, 2011, but was postponed by IRS Notice 2010–69 on October 23, 2010 (January 2012).
–Income from self-employment and wages of single individuals in excess of $200,000 annually will be subject to an additional tax of 0.9% (January 2013).
–Most medical devices become subject to a 2.3% excise tax collected at the time of purchase (January 2014).
Health insurance companies become subject to a new excise tax based on their market share; the rate gradually rises between 2014 and 2018 and thereafter increases at the rate of inflation (January 2014).
freeberty
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:06pmThanks George Bush, for you great Patriot Act
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:32pmFREE(Loader), You must mean, Thanks, Congressional (both houses) Dem Supermajority with a Lib POTUS, for two long years, for NOT repealing the Patriot Act. You must, that is, if you’re honest. Are you? (That’s rhetorical)
Report Post »Psonaught
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 2:24amPatriot act was originally democrat and current vice president Joe Biden‘s law in the 90’s. He couldn’t get it passed. It seems that, like the federal reserve system. if one party can’t pass it the other does. What to do? There seems to be so much power and wealth behind a one world all controlling no where left to run world. Enough times 1000 to buy all the politicians or dirt on any non conforming politicians to buy this.
So what to do? How to fight what amounts to a religion of absolute zealots with the worst part is that they have been convinced that they are doing good, not evil. That fairness is unfair, freedom is slavery responsibility and individuality is something to be savaged and destroyed, all the while believing they are standing up for fairness, kindness etc. in an orwellian double speak manner.
How do you reach them? How do we stop this. I see people thinking small preparing themselves which is good in the short term but if it gets that bad, if they do collapse europe, the US, Japan. If it gets bad enough to need those guns, then i’m afraid we, the world, have already lost to them.
So what do we do? I’m honestly asking, because if we do nothing but think small they will win be default, a hundred years of plotting and destroying and they have brought the world to this point. Took longer than planned I’m sure. The funny thing is the believers will suffer as much as the rest of us if they win. Why do they not understand that?
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:06pmThe want supremacy of the State over the Individual……….. and IT’S WORKING!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:12pmYup, and I expect the roundups will begin just about the election time.
Report Post »planecrashlaw
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:55pmSnow:
You have been predicting roundups, blood in the streets and suspension of elections for how long now? Your crystal ball is a bit off, no?
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:05pmThank goodness the GOP has leaders like Romney, McCain, West, Graham, Ryan and Rubio to protect us. Hold on a second, those guys support the NDAA, and now I can easily be labeled a terrorist.
Thanks ass clowns.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:23pmMUTINY, you make a common online assumption. No one cares what or who you are. You are totally inconsequential. Except in your own imagination.
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:40amGreat point MUTINY. This is CRITICAL INFORMATION. Although the “memory holes” of the MS(fake-conservative)M and the MS(fake-liberal)M have NO MEMORY… the web does. And we need to USE IT, while we still can!
Report Post »pudssweetie
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:07amGot to love how you love to point out the GOP who voted for NDAA but you never ever mention any of the Dems who also voted for it.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:08am@model
Yet you reply to my posts. Did I lie in my post? What exactly do you have against facts? Or is your problem my post is you like the idea of people who believe in the Constitution, freedom, and liberty being indefinitely detained?
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:36am@puds
Because I dont expect the Democrats to vote for freedom. Everyone is pissed at the Obama and the Supreme court for Obamacare being unconstitutional. But the same people mad at them for that ignore the the Patriot act and the NDAA being unconstitutional.
You either believe in the Constitution or you dont. Those men I mentioned only use the Constitution to try and get the real conservatives and the libertarian vote.
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