Texas Homeowner Guns Down Teen Burglar
- Posted on April 9, 2012 at 9:40pm by
Mytheos Holt
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Three youngsters in the Dallas Fort Worth area learned to their sorrow that trying to pull a fast one by stealing from the town’s residents can be a fatal idea. In fact, one of them died in the attempt. According to KDFW Fox 4 Dallas Fort-Worth’s report on the subject:
Three youngsters rang the doorbell and then ran to the back of the home, prompting the homeowner to call 911.
The trio then allegedly kicked in the back door and entered the home, where the unidentified resident opened fire, killing 14-year-old Luis Avila.[...]
Neighbors said they saw a couple of kids who looked like they were up to no good running from the house. They also heard five gunshots, a pause and then three more shots.
KDFW also has a video report on the incident.
The homeowner in question is a man named Lee Cobbler, according to this report from KENS 5 San Antonio’s video report, linked below:
No charges have been filed, though the case will reportedly be reviewed by a grand jury, according to the AP.
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Comments (649)
Fivehead
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:13pmCommit a crime in Texas and we will kill you for it. And law enforcement down here is firmly on our side.
Report Post »ImMadAsHell
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:26pmRight on thats why I never leave home without my CHL and 9mm
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:26pmOnly one died!
Report Post »IndyGuy
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:30pmSince the kid is obviously White Hispanic, we won’t be seeing Al Sharpton and the Reverennnnd Jacksonnnn running to his defense…
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:36pmIt’s just a hunch, but I think if a homeowner is currently home, and someone kicks in their home-door it seems like the homeowner would think “Someone is here to kill me” because the homeowner doesn‘t know the intruder doesn’t know the homeowner is home.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:43pmIt seems to me there is a fundamental flaw in a society that teaches children other people’s belongings also belong to them.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:48pmI think about all the numb-skull parents who tell their own children “Now Johnny you better share your things with your friend Chuck” and then when their own child complains that bobby down the street wouldn‘t let him ride Bobby’s Big-Wheel that same parent says “Well Johnny the Big-Wheel does belong to Bobby.” Because your child will think you hate him, fools your family tree is cut-off.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 11:28pmHey kids, DON’T for the life of you, rob, assault, jump, punch, hit, kidnap, torture, or attack strangers, neighbors, or other citizens! What are these public schools teaching these kids? What happened to respect, private property, and discipline? Oh, that’s right, there is none.
Yeah, let’s take the ten commandments out of schools, those dangerous principles can harm our youth. Let‘s instead make sure there’s No respect for higher authority, No respect for one’s community, No respect for one’s family, No respect for public order, No respect for life, No respect for liberty, No respect for neighbors, and No respect for private property. Let’s see how that works…
30 years later… What moron activist judge ruled that bunch of crap? And what idiots paved the road for the traitor to make such a decision?
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 5:08amOne less junior thug !!! Good, I’m glad the homeowner is ok….
Report Post »Bill Rowland
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 6:00amOne more young criminal who will not grow into an adult criminal. We won’t be paying for his room and board ar Huntsville in a few years. Wonder if they were illegal Aliens?
My showgun would have at least injured all of them.
OMG 2012
Report Post »little big man
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 7:31amItsjusttim
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:43pm
It seems to me there is a fundamental flaw in a society that teaches children other people’s belongings also belong to them.
_________________________________________________________________________________
It’s called Obama. they just wanted their fare share.
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 8:34amI agree!!! Lady on video said it was a ‘tradgey’………BS. Burgulary is a HIGH RISK profession. I nominate the home owner for the 2012 ‘Joe Horn’ award. Do I hear a second?
Report Post »Corwin of Amber
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 8:37amGod Bless the Republic of Texas
Report Post »McNamara
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 8:53amYou got that right. We have the castle doctrine here.
Report Post »grimmy
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 9:00am“Homeowner guns down”? Wtf is that,the homeowner didnt “gun down” anyone,he shot and killed an intruder. Come on blaze stop the left leaning sensationalizing crap,either write the stories yourself,or get out of the “news” business,sheesh.And Fivehead, you are correct, come in my house uninvited,and you will be met with more than one person with a gun………
Report Post »SLARTIBARTFAST
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 9:02amI live in a nice neighborhood where I wouldn’t be afraid to take a walk at night, BUT: I never go out without my CHL (concealed handgun license) and one of several carry pieces. I don’t even go to answer the door without one in my pocket. I’ve never had to draw but have had an occasion or two that just having it there allowed me not to show fear in dangerous situations. Even this sense of confidence can be the difference between becoming a victim.
Report Post »I will pray for the kid who got shot, but especially for the poor man who shot him, who will live a life of never knowing if things could have turned out better or worse.
Ruler4You
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 9:05am8 shots and only one dead? Well, that’s god enough.
I’d have done the same thing. Good shooin’ Tex.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 9:35amToo bad for the MSM that the dead kid’s name is Luis Avila. Had it been Tyrone, Jamal, Cedrick, Andree, Treyven, Trey, Delron, Willie, Ray Ray, Pookey….. then they would have a story worthy of twisting.
Report Post »MittensKittens
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:08amAgreed, here in TX if your parents don’t bring you up right and you do something stupid, that’s the chances taken! I feel bad for the family, but, they have a part in this too…Unfortunately.
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:12amHere in Oklahoma we have Texas beat – we have Castle Doctrine. There is a Pharamist in Oklahoma City who shot a kid a few years ago that shot a kid during a robbery. The only problem is he emptied the gun and I just saw where he is going to prison. I understand that after Obama is re-elected he will pass a law to limit a home owner to only legally shoot 1 shot. If that person shoots 2 shots the 2nd will be to their own tempal.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:13amThe only crime is the Texas gun laws. The home owner is a murder, he acted as judge, jury and executioner and in cold blood ended the lives of three children.
guntotinsquaw
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:16amColt …” What are these public schools teaching these kids? “….and that is the root of the problem right there. If one of my boys were to do such a thing, I would strip 7 layers off their backside. My children are the most honest, polite, hard working young people. They have been taught since birth that their behavior is a direct reflection upon my skills as a parent. Schools do not raise children, it is time for parents to be held accountable.
One If By Land
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:29amENCINOM(AN), So, you don’t believe the thug breaking into the home had anything to do with his own demise? As far as I am concerned, the kid found a way to achieve his Darwin Award. His actions got him killed by forcing the home owner to react. I know that I don’t hate anybody, but I will protect my home and family in a similar manner if an antagonist puts me in that position.
7thGenTexan
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:06amEncinom, I think our law is just fine. Commit no crime , face no punishment. I would hope the other two learn a valuable lesson.
God Bless Texas , 1 leader 49 followers.
Report Post »Rightallalong
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:07amencinom – I usually ignore your opinions – I respect the fact that you have the right to your opinions…and defend your place here in the forum.
However in this case it is clear you did not read or comprehend the article as you stated that the homeowner ended the life of 3 children. This points out that even in the most simplistic areas of fact you disregard it to make your case. I think it is reasonable to say that you are willfully uninformed.
Report Post »chancetexas
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:10am10 My son, if sinful men entice you,
Report Post »do not give in to them.
11 If they say, “Come along with us;
let’s lie in wait for innocent blood,
let’s ambush some harmless soul;
12 let’s swallow them alive, like the grave,
and whole, like those who go down to the pit;
13 we will get all sorts of valuable things
and fill our houses with plunder;
14 cast lots with us;
we will all share the loot”—
15 my son, do not go along with them,
do not set foot on their paths;
16 for their feet rush into evil,
they are swift to shed blood.
17 How useless to spread a net
where every bird can see it!
18 These men lie in wait for their own blood;
they ambush only themselves!
19 Such are the paths of all who go after ill-gotten gain;
it takes away the life of those who get it. Prov 1:10-19
VoteBushIn12
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:24amThis is what guns are for. Home defense. Where your immediate privacy and safety is being invaded.
Not hunting down late night teenage shoppers walking home.
It’s a lot easier to believe this shooter acted in self defense given he was in his house and they were breaking in.
Report Post »iampraying4u
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:35amI hope the teen wasent black
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:37amSend In Al Sharpton’s Black Lynch Mob
If Obama had a son that son would look like that dead 14 year old. Lets bypass the Grand Jury and send that homeowner to Sanford, Florida to stand trial. More black attacks on the way.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:38amVoteBushIn12
You may want to re read the founding fathers. Guns are not to protect from burglers, they are to protect you from a tyranical government.
“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” — Thomas Jefferson
“Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not.”
Thomas Jefferson
“The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution.”
Thomas Jefferson
“They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Ben Franklin
“An armed man is a citizen. A disarmed man is a subject.”
Anon
I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.” -George Mason
“(The Constitution preserves) the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation…(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.” -James Madison.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:41amEncinom – you twisted leftist, how many home invasions that end in death do you NOT read about? You are a single minded troll, intent on taking our guns – well here is my answer to you and your lot =
Molon Labe
Take your lies and guilt trip to another site, your words make you a laughing stock here. Children don’t break into homes, thieves do. Come to my house and try to break in.
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:46amencinom
Report Post »Spouts off again. One dead, encinoman. This is exactly why MANY state legislatures have endorsed the “castle doctrine”. Look at it this way. Money saved on jail, court, prison, and a lifetime social welfare case. Those punks had NO right to go into this man’s house. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
P.S. Why do the liberals NEVER question the poor parenting and lack of accountability that leads to the behavior, that leads to the consequences?
TexasHunter
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:49amAlways be ready in Texas to deal with your bad decisions! Lesson learned. Now if I can just get rid of that damn ghost in my house.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:51amencinom
when seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Last year over 2 million crimes were diverted by American gun owners
Report Post »TXMD
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 12:02pmAppropriate response to law enforcement is just two (2) simple sentences: (1) I was afraid for my life! (2) I want to talk with my lawyer! Then zip it.
Report Post »TomSawyer
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 12:14pmI think the other two remaining kids will never do that type of crime again.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 12:16pmrangerp
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:51am
encinom
when seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Last year over 2 million crimes were diverted by American gun owners
__________________
Ranger dAN,
That is nothing more than a NRA slogan that has zero facts to back it up.
Report Post »TexasHunter
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 12:22pmENCINOM I laugh at your stupidity. You never seem to fail me. Thank You for being so consistent on the ignorant level. When some one breaks in your house offer them a cup of tea and a cookie. We will handle ours slightly different down here in Texas..
Report Post »EndTheFedNOW
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 12:40pmFNH 9mm. Dallas Texas. Badges we dont need no stinkin badges.
Report Post »wdittgasn
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 12:50pmWrong again encinom. Those kids risked there lives when they kicked in a door and entered the residence. You walk through a mine field you risk getting blown up. You enter someones home you risk getting shot. They should let the man keep his gun. encinom I think you should break in someones home, so we do not have to here these bass ackward posts of yours.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 12:50pmI wish encinom would break into my house : ))
Report Post »db321
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 1:02pmThe two kids that got away and caught later – will probably serve a year in Juvenile Detention. Then their crappy life happens. Every Job in Texas that is worthy of any type of decent income requires a Back Ground Check and a drug Test.
The Oil Business is booming in many states – Texas Oil Companies have to screen 100 potential employees to find 10 to 15 applicants that can pass a Drug Test and Criminal Background Check.
I have a feeling the two that were not shot will have a long a measurable life of crime ahead of them.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 1:17pm@encinom You don’t know the mind of an intruder. Your home is your property, it’s not open to the public. Anyone who forces themselves into your home, is a threat. They may rob, kill, rape, torture, or kidnap. Which of those chances would you like to face? An intruder, thief, has no respect for your life, liberty or property. You either defend all three like a decent citizen, or you kneel to your intruder and lick his feet. Your statement is so illogical, ignorant and stupid. This older man was up against THREE able bodied young men, who were intent on causing damage, hurt, and LOSS. You’re are so dang arrogant. So, let me guess, if those intruders happened to rob or kill this homeowner, they wouldn’t be judge and executioner? Your statements or so bias and unreasonable. What the hell is wrong with you?
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 1:20pmENCINOM(AN), RANGERP is quite correct. I am retired from law enforcement having worked both in the military as well as civilian. Have responded to a call after the fact to find him to be true. Either to a dead or injured home owner, or a dead or injured thug who attacked the armed home owner. There is too much area for a police shift in any area to be right on top of a crime in progress at all times. I’d much rather have found a dead or wounded perpetrator rather than a dead or wounded innocent victim. Thugs are not innocent.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 1:24pm“Grief Counciling”…REALLY? Don‘t kick in doors and try to rob people and you won’t get SHOT! Tough lesson to learn, huh? Maybe it should be taught in our schools! I’m sure this will become ANOTHER excuse to stir up hatred…everyone in that neighborhood is likely to become a target…SAD! “God is Great, Beer is Good and People are Crazy!”
Report Post »nocakeforme12
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 1:36pmMaybe someone ought to post encinom’s address for all of the thugs to go to. He brags he’s unarmed and welcomes any violence done to him because he thinks he can reason with someone is going to kill him. What an idiot
Report Post »Halgar
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 1:43pmI love stories like this, I wish they were more abundant across the country.
Report Post »mils
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 1:48pm….“three youngsters”…..poor booboo bugs….three little kids….
Report Post ».HOW ABOUT
… “three young ******* thieves learn a lesson the HARD WAY, and one didn’t walk away”…
If the resident had not had a gun, they might have murdered him..they kicked in the back door…14 years old…wow.. I think they might have killed the resident..
why a grand jury?
The-Monk
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 1:55pmNow that’s what I call Social Justice!
Report Post »red_white_blue2
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 2:02pmWish I lived in Texas with that said.
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 2:14pmnocakeforme12
Report Post »Our friend Encinoman is just following the Obama foreign policy playbook. Disarm and chat.
dmerwin
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 2:16pmHalgar
Report Post »If you like these stories join the NRA they have about 10 examples per month in the magazines.
INOGAWD
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 2:17pm@ Fivehead
Report Post »Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:13pm
Commit a crime in Texas and we will kill you for it. And law enforcement down here is firmly on our side
Unlike our Government and the DOJ…Sueing Arizona Sheriff Joe..
for enforcing immigration Laws..Dump this corrupt Administration..
SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 2:18pmOk encinom. One died read the story.
You cant be that stupid. So its deliberate. Best thing your daddy could have done is had a napkin handy. And the world…. Would be a better place.
Report Post »Nathaniel Horn
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 2:23pmDumb can get you killed. Good for Texas. There still is sanity in this country in some places. What soft, oversensitive Liberals don’t understand is that tough love is a good and necessary thing. Death is the ultimate tough love. I bet the rash of burglaries cease in that neighborhood.
For all we know, that death might stop some other young guy from doing something stupid and getting himself killed. That young man might grow up to be the savior of civilization. So this death may have saved mankind. We just don’t know. But we learn to trust if we learn anything. God is not a pacifist. God is not neutral. Liberal is a disease.
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 2:28pmHey encinom.
Lee Cobbler 1 – d-bag thugs 0
Looks like a winning score. Long live American Patriots who stand against d- baggery. We will always win- you will always lose. Bet that tastes like acid in your mouth!
Report Post »jcldwl
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 2:51pmHey Blaze couldn’t you have picked a better headline. This headline is reminiscent of the main stream media. “Guns down teen burglar” How about “Defends his life and wins” or “Teen burglar breaks into mans home and meets his maker.” Your headline just leaves a negative connotation.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 3:02pmI agree. What’s with the Headline? Is the homeowner some drug cartel also?
Report Post »Roberto G. Vasquez
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 3:03pmThe heading and article looks like it was written by HUFPO = Boo!!!
Report Post »Leader1776
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 3:17pm@encinom
Report Post »What would your comment have been if the homeowner ………… minding his own business ………… was shot and killed by these thugs?
dmerwin
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 3:37pmLeader1776
Report Post »Posted on April 10, 2012 at 3:17pm
@encinom
What would your comment have been if the homeowner ………… minding his own business ………… was shot and killed by these thugs?
And his reply is (crickets chirping).
However, the MSM would not have reported the story.
rangerp
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 4:07pmskimmer57
They are so proud of you over on the huffpo. Keep it up my liberal, democrat, progressive buddy, you have every one on here fooled. Now put your mask back on, and get back to the OWS parade.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 4:21pm@DMERWIN
You mean like this story? The one where Tyrone the black thug beat a white couple in their 80s, and raped the woman? Wonder whey this never made the big news?
http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2012/04/05/could-be-obamas-son-tyrone-woodfork-accused-of-first-degree-murder-severely-beating-an-elderly-couple-85-year-old-female-dies-90-year-old-male-in-and-out-of-hospital/
Report Post »troymac20
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 4:25pm@ENCINOM
Wrong, they ended their own lives when they kicked in the door.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 4:38pmRanger, you missed one word in the 2nd Amend – ‘infringe’, it does not say what guns are to be used for, k.
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 4:40pmThis story should be ran in all the schools.
Not the lies of evolution.
Report Post »Show the kids the reality of the consequences of wrong doing.
Not teach them that vile homosexuality is OK.
The scientific proof of a young earth is astounding and taking God out of a society only leads to senseless violence on violence.
The Realist
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 4:43pmLeader1776
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 3:17pm
@encinom
What would your comment have been if the homeowner ………… minding his own business ………… was shot and killed by these thugs?
-The most likely lib comment would be “well it’s better for the planet, less draining of our resources, less C02 emissions” etc. Remember liberals see every life as a burden while conservatives see every life as potential.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 4:53pmAccording to the cross-eyed liberal lemming ENCINOM, the police were there BEFORE the break in and stopped the burglars in their tracks ROFLMAO!!!!!!
Police can’t be everywhere dingbat!
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 4:58pmOn an important side note:
Could we all please stop addressing and acknowledging all liberal trolls that post on The Blaze?
These people have mental issues from the start to be able to hold to valueless views that they do.
Most of these are deviates that treat this as porn. They are literally getting off when they are acknowledged.
I did not want to even type this because it disgusts me to no end.
I leave them alone and pray for them.
Report Post »naed5048
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 5:01pmHeadline………….Guns down ? are you starting to be liberal on us?
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 5:50pmIf someone kicks in my door, they will get two in the chest and one in the head. They should expect nothing less when they break into someone’s house.
Liberals think you should just let intruders tie you up, rape your wife, and set your house on fire. Then they can feel good about prosecuting them.
Report Post »Linda Sue
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 6:00pmI live six miles from a Texas State Youth Offender Prison. Kids in there are the hard core variety. What‘s to say three just like ’em are forcing their way into my home. I‘ll have to shoot and ask Q’s later. So sorry for the parents, ( I think ).
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 6:07pm@FreedomPurveyor …”Then they can feel good about prosecuting them.” And giving them a ‘second’ chance at life… Yeah, a second chance to steal, rape or kill… Liberals, with their social justice, and activist judges, are pathetic, and a threat to this country and it’s citizens.
Home invasion in Houston: suspect accused of attacking three; man, wife and mother-in-law:
http://www.click2houston.com/news/Home-invasion-suspect-accused-of-attacking-3/-/1735978/10282064/-/9qpvfn/-/index.html
Report Post »SpeckChaser
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 6:08pmI feel pretty confident that encinom is actually a conservative trying to make liberals look like fools. It is marginally humorous but completely unnecessary.
Report Post »john141714
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 6:15pmENCINOM,
Report Post »If you were my neighbor i think i would have to post this on my lawn
http://www.eatliver.com/i.php?n=4936
kaydeebeau
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 6:45pmjust to be clear the correct title is ENCINOMORON……
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 7:27pmI Love Texas. (Meant to be all CAPS, but it offends The Blaze). Shouting can be a good thing.
Report Post »Curt58
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 7:47pmWho writes this stuff. John Lennon was gunned down! John Kennedy was Gunned down! Giffiord was gunned down! This young Criminal was killed during the commision of a Felony while breaking and entering. The Homeowner sucussfully defended him self againt 3 younger stronger youths, hell bent on coming to his home forceably.
Like they say, “Don’t pick a fight with an old man, he’s too old to fight, and will just kill you instead”!
And for Encinoman, Let‘s see hear how you’d handle having three young, strong, determined criminals after they kick in your back door and rush you! Not uncommon for kids like this to beat you to death and then steal your TV and Cell Phone. Realize they may not let you give them the tv. You‘re a witness and it’s easier to kill you for it.
Wake Up America. We’ve coddeled this punks and thugs long enough. Teach them some manners!
Report Post »The hard way if necessary! Our prisons are overcrowded because of how we do it now! Obviously it’s not working!
NeoFan
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 9:41pmENCINOM is right. The home owner should have got down on his knees and waited for the intruders to put a bullet in the back of his head.
Report Post »Liberal_Teacher
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 9:48pmThis is a tragic case, but it certainly seems like the home owner was within his rights. Still, it’s disturbing to see commenters here applauding the death of a 14 year old boy. People do stupid and thoughtless things as children and grow up to be okay adults. It does happen. This boy will never have that chance. His fault, maybe, but nothing to be cheering about.
stratomaster
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:18pmI’m jealous of your state. If I could move to one state it would be Texas.
Report Post »wetheppl
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:26pmI bet the other two kids straiten up real fast.
Report Post »Titainiumman
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:05pmYouv’e got that right, I lived in texas for several years and you don’t mess with home owners.Ihad a co-workerwho was driving past his house on a service call and noticed a vehicle backed up to his garage,He pulled in and grabbed a gun he kept in his garage and killed the two guys robbing his house,The company made him show on his time card that he was at lunch at the time of the incident because they didn’t want it to look like he killed them on company time.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on April 11, 2012 at 12:33amStupid – Stupid – Stupid.
Leave people the hell alone!
Rob a man, or even threaten to and you could lose your life.
Is is worth it????
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on April 11, 2012 at 12:38am“Defends his life and wins”
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JCL… I love it!!
Report Post »FL_Catholic
Posted on April 11, 2012 at 9:16amGood thing he didn’t do this in Florida, or he’d have to hide from the New Black Panthers.
Report Post »rafaelc1
Posted on April 11, 2012 at 9:27amSchools and Parents are the PROBLEMS : Schools what are you teaching those kids ????
Report Post »Parents do you know were your kids are ??????
bcshealy
Posted on April 11, 2012 at 10:34amLike the country song says, “God bless Texas!” Hopefully that is where Zimmerman is now — he should be safe in a state that has courage!
Report Post »altops
Posted on April 11, 2012 at 11:45ama-men, crime should be called potential suicide, and criminals have attempted suicide added to their wrap sheet for engaging in criminal activity which citizens are legally allowed to kill them.
Report Post »stablepar
Posted on April 11, 2012 at 12:00pmwho says all news is bad news
Report Post »poorrichard09
Posted on April 11, 2012 at 2:20pmAm I the only one really offended by the headline saying “teen gunned down?” Especially after the whole Trayvon mess. A more honest headline might have said “Homeowner shoots teen during home invasion.”
Report Post »rs9
Posted on April 11, 2012 at 6:34pmWhen La Raza hears about this the home owner is screwed just like Zimmerman
Report Post »VoteBushIn12
Posted on April 11, 2012 at 9:55pm@RANGERP
Ok, so if that’s what guns are for then I should only use my guns to kill government official whom I feel are oppressing me? Or am I not ALSO allowed to use it against civilians that are endangering me?
The second amendment may be in response to tyrannical governments, but it’s certainly not limited to that. I would expect your conservative outlook to understand that. Guns are for personal defense, not just government overthrows (though they may be used for that should the time come)
Report Post »lancevd
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:13pmOOrah! The kid was old enough to know what he was doing! Maybe the word will get around, and the little thugs will think a bit more, and more homeowners will purchase and use guns!
Report Post »arx
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:29pmI for one am tired of hearing “youngster” or “youth” used to describe these thugs.
Report Post »woodyb
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 11:03pm2 ARX –
I agree — several years ago, in Florida, a neighbor’s kids were arrested for shoplifting, but the law prohibited disclosure of their names.
After a couple days of harsh ‘stay in your room’ punishment, the kids were right back at it.
Had they publicized the kids‘ AND THE PARENTS’ names, I can’t help but think the punishment might have been a bit more lasting!!
Report Post »Elena2010
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 11:34pmLee needs to spend more time at the range…8 shots and only 1 down.
Texas has a Castle Law not a Stand Your Ground Law. I would expect the Grand Jury to exonerate Lee. The thugs knew he was home — they rang the bell in the front then went to the rear.
Report Post »Suzanne D
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 2:09am@Elana2010: actually, Texas has BOTH a “Stand Your Ground Law” AND a “Castle Doctrine.” They are not mutually exclusive. Texas’ “Stand Your Ground Law” may be found at TX Penal Code Section 9, Subsections 31 and 32.
Report Post »tommysoap
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 4:16amSince my home has weapons within seconds of a person illegally entering my home by force {namely the kitchen knife block on my kitchen counter} . An intruder is within seconds of holding deadly force upon me, so the age of the intruder should not enter the mindset, when defending ones life. In this instance I would encourage the homeowner to sue the 14 year olds parents to have their child’s blood, and or brain matter, removed from my floors, and or carpets and drapes.
Report Post »skimmer57
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 8:27amI planted red white and blue flowers in my back yard and I take great pride in them. They are at the base of of three flag poles that proudly fly old glory, rebel,and tea party flags. My neighborhood has lots of kids in it and they are of all nationalities. During one of their games of kick ball the ball came into my yard! A kid maybe eight or nine years old(wearing a ‘hoodie) hopped my fence to retrieve the ball. He was trespassing and might have had bad intentions. I let it go this time (I kept their ball) but next time I will use deadly force and the new law will make it o.k. What a great country!
Report Post »Thecoolhandluke
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 8:32am14 is old enough to know what you’re doing is wrong, but plenty young enough to be caught up in doing something stupid with friends that you would never do on your own or later in life. I take it you’ve never regretted anything you did at that age?
The homeowner was within his rights to shoot, but I highly doubt whether this shooting was necessary (simply based on the facts given in this article). Protecting yourself and your home does not mean you have to kill the thief. I’ve saved myself from a robbery without ever firing a shot. Point it at them and tell them not to move while you call the police; fire a warning shot if you need to, but fire at them only if you are in mortal danger. God made all life sacred; we should never be eager to see anyone killed, especially not misguided teenagers who have the potential to shape up and become productive members of society.
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 8:56amThecoolhandluke
Let’s see, we have 3 teenagers KICK IN the back door. These were not misguided KIDS who would not do this later in life. These were 3 young thugs who probably have done this before because they have a pattern. Ring the door bell and run around to the back door and kick it in. Hopefully the 2 left alive can learn a lesson from their stupidity but I doubt it.
Report Post »wboehmer
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 8:58amAnd now he’s forever 14!
Report Post »SeekerEmerald
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 9:35am@ skimmer57
If you can’t understand the difference between three 14YO thugs invading a home and a kid retrieving a ball, Then for your own good you had better stay away from guns. The fact that liberals can’t think for themselves does not mean that conservatives are similarly afflicted.
Your lack of logic is so incredible that I must assume you don’t really believe what you are saying.
Report Post »If you are saying something that you know to be false, that makes you disingenuous. How can you liberals expect to have credibility when your bread and butter is being disingenuous? How can those two things co-exist?
Square Dancer
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:06amSkimmer57…if you brandish, shoot, or kill one kid for climbing a fence to retrieve a ball, I suspect you’ll be facing a stretch in prison. One child would not normally represent a “disparity of force”, but three thugs kicking in a door could. Does this kid going for his ball have a weapon that is visible? Is your life in “immediate danger” or “serious bodily injury” from some kid getting his ball? If not, and you kill him, you’ll be convicted of murder….and should be.
Report Post »skimmer57
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:13amSeekeremerald—- I was in Mliwaukee the other day and was stopped at a red light when out of the blue a guy came up to my pick-up truck (he was in a hoodie) and started to clean my windshield! I thought it was a car jacking and thanks to the new concealed carry I was this close to taking matters into my own hands! The 14 year old “thug” was one lucky brother.I would have been perfectly within my rights! What a great country!
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:14amARX, I’m with you on that, the media should describe criminals as just that…criminals. I’ll even go with alleged criminals if that makes them more comfortable. But, call them what they are.
Report Post »Fried Okra
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:03amSkimmer57 is a liberal poser. Don’t feed the troll.
Report Post »IMAWAKENOW
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:21amscammer57,
Report Post »I am so on your side. It is great that we can now put ourselves into situations where we can gun down innocent 8 year olds and homeless with our conceal carry guns! It is great to “go hunting” in our urban areas using tea party affiliation as a liscense to kill. I bagged three of “those people” last month myself, though the 7 year old hoodie wearing easter egg hunter that ended up being my neighbor’s grandson may be pushing it a bit.
YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!! I hope a thug or two cross paths with you some time soon.
teamarcheson
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:39amIn all Muslim nations and most of the world a 12 year old is considered an adult.
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:51amThecoolhandluke
Report Post »Stupid things kids do: is skip school, smoke pot, steal their parents liquor.
Breaking and entering is an adult crime that can have terminal consequences. Now you can bet the parents will say “He was such a good boy”. “Only suspended three times, for non-violent mischief” blah, blah, blah.
For ONCE I would like to see the parents say, “I’m sorry, we failed society, and should have done a better job”. Just once.
cantstandlibs
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:53amIn response to skimmer57.
What kind of freaking neighbor are you? I understand protecting your property but a kid trying to retrieve a ball? You seem dangerous and probably over-react in any number of ways. How many cars have you keyed because they “parked too close” to yours? How many razor blades have you put in Halloween candy because “its a pagaan holiday?” How many cats have you tortured because they crapped in your precious flowers.
Report Post »skimmer57
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 12:15pmCantstandlibs– You ask what kind of neighbor I am ? Well I am a proud true blue patriot who carries around my gun 24-7! I love the new castle law if I feel threatened I can shoot first and ask questions later. I’m a prepper with a basement full of food. I get all my news from the blaze and Fox news and am fully prepared for the take over! Do not come to my door when it hits the fan. I’ve got my gold and food so go get yours! What a great country!
wdittgasn
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 1:02pmNon now skimmer: your stretching it their if you want to shoot 8 year olds playing kick ball.
Report Post »wdittgasn
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 1:12pmSkimmer57 is just a troll mocking us, may you have a run in with some of your beloved thugs soon.
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 2:35pmSkimmer
Please get a real job. Your performance at your current one sucks.
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 2:49pmto the SKIMMER…..I’m with you, man . Defending what’s yours is foolhardy, because it all belongs to the government, in the end. There is no reason to claim that as a right, because our government bestows our rights and can just as easily revoke such. There is no reason to worry about the coming election in November despite Obama’s low approval and the American people working to take the initiative, and not let unidentifiable people vote ,and if it looks like the election will go against us, we can incite riots and race wars to get the election screwed up. I’m sure you get your walking orders the same place as I do, so, just stay the course and cause as much confusion and chaos as you are able, make it impossible to get ANYTHING done and we can be top dogs, dude.Yeah, yeah…4 more years …4 more years
Report Post »cgnick
Posted on April 11, 2012 at 12:32amSomeone kicks their way into my home and they will meet the same fate. Shoot first and ask questions later. I’m not going to find out how old they are before protecting my family from a violent home entry. I am a firm believer in natural selection.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:12pmjust doin his part for a sustainable future…………………thinning out the gene pool
Report Post »Soul Leister
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 1:07amwhen asked, “why did you shoot eight times?”… he responded, “that was all the ammo I had”.
Report Post »BumperMorgan
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 2:00amSoul: Sounds like the exact right answer too me.
Report Post »gunslingerpatriot
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 7:54am@Soul lister-Actually the better answer is, “I was in fear for my life and I was about to die.” It helps defang an antigun prosecutor if you have to go to court.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 9:49amSOUL LEISTER, LOL, these thugs should be careful who they mess with. My SIG P226 has a 20 round mag in it with one in the chamber. The holster it is in has a flexible mag pouch mounted with another 20 round mag. Once I pick that up I have 41 rounds at my finger tips. A nearby mag bag has plenty of 15 and 17 round mags and extra boxes of Federal Hydra-Shock Plus-P-Plus. I fired expert with the rifle annually, and twice a year with the pistol, and was a top shot when I was on a civilian police department. It’s a good thing that I am way out in the boonies of a rural area where such hoodlums are rare, but there are a few anyway. I am so far out that when seconds count, the deputies or staties are usually far more than mere minutes away, and believe in protecting myself. We also have Stand Your Ground laws to back us up.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 3:54pmDepends how well the thug is ventilated…, say he has two holes….
“I fired 6 warning shots and he kept coming. Then I was not sure if I hit him with the seventh and as I was in fear of my life, I fired the eight that stopped him.”
BTW, I lived for a while in a rural BC, Canada. There was a string of house burglaries in the area, the houses to my right and left on the road were all burglarized. Mine was not. A RCMP officer came by to my house to query if I heard or saw something. I told him I was on a trip the previous day. He pointed to a sign on my door that had a pic of a magnum and text “We don’t call 911!” on it.
Report Post »Officer: “You’ve got a licensed handgun?”
Me: “No, only a rifle.”
Officer, after 3 seconds of thinking: “Well, it seems to work. Have a nice day.”
HxConservative89
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:11pmGood riddance to the young hoodlum. And that woman said they have never had problems in Pleasant Grove!?!?! Lets just say i wouldn’t go to Pleasant Grove at night! Not the worst neighborhood in Dallas but definitely not the best.
Report Post »lel2007
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:02pmWhat in hell are these ‘youngsters” thinking these days?
Report Post »angelcat
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 9:02amKids like this aren’t thinking. They want what they want and do anything to get it. They don’t care if it means stealing from someone else. If these kids didn’t want to risk being injured or killed, they shouldn‘t have invaded someone’s home. Many home invasions have ended with the murder of the residents, so this man was wise in not taking a chance. The blame belongs on the criminals, but the liberals are probably going to blame the homeowner for protecting his own home and life.
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:29amI’ll tell you what they are thinking. They are thinking about how in school they are taught that as juveniles they will never really get in trouble no matter what they do. They are thinking about how cool is where up until the age of 18 you can rob, steal, assault, rape anybody you want to and get only a slap on the wrist for it. That is what they are thinking.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:02pmWhat the hell is this reporter doing?
Is she checking twitter during a live update?
Report Post »RosePurple
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 12:24amHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Report Post »I think your right!
JohnLarson
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:02pmI have no problems with Castle Laws.
But Stand Your Ground… being able to shoot anyone who scares you, is ridiculous. Zimmerman could have just as easily been shot, with Traevon claiming he was standing his ground.
Report Post »jungle J
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:09pmthey are the same.
Report Post »oldguy49
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:11pmthe most respectful people you will ever meet are at the gun range
Report Post »lel2007
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:11pmThe “stand your ground” portion of the law means you’re not required to run into your bedroom and hide under the bed when an intruder kicks your door in.
Report Post »It should be noted that the evidencee indicates Zimmerman shot little Trayvon while getting his head hammered into the concrete. I suppose Zimmerman could have tried curling into the fetal position, but that would have been difficult with little Trayvon on top of him clutching his head.
chazmo
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:17pmStand your ground means; If someone is kicking your ass or threatening your life, you have a right to protect yourself with deadly force if needed. It doesn’t mean what you keep trying to make it mean. Stop already. You are not going to convince anyone of your bullshlt. What are you 10? Some of us are adults here and we are logical adults. We can think logically. You argument isn’t logical.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:29pmUh, if someone is banging your head on cement, I think your life is in danger, but it’s just a hunch.
Report Post »Celeste.Christi
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:53pm“I have no problems with Castle Laws.
But Stand Your Ground… being able to shoot anyone who scares you, is ridiculous. Zimmerman could have just as easily been shot, with Traevon claiming he was standing his ground.”
You don‘t know what you’re talking about. I live in Florida and I carry. Without the Stand Your Ground Law I would have to retreat as far away as possible, giving my attacker every opportunity to advance on me before I could defend myself. No. I will take every opportunity to avoid shooting a human, however, that does not include placing myself in greater danger from said human.
You (and the MSM) will discover as time goes on that Zimmerman was right and Trayvon was wrong.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 11:09pm“Stand your ground” varies a little bit from state to state but generally means that if met with a threat, you are not required to try to flee before taking more aggressive action to protect persons (including but not limited to your own) or property (in the case of Castle Law).
The Castle Law and Stand your ground in Texas extends to your vehicle as well so that if you are in your vehicle and someone tries to smash your window or pull you out, you may use deadly force to prevent that from happening you do not have to flee.
It also extends to neighboring properties if, say my neighbor goes on vacation and says to me, “can you keep an eye on our place, feed the horse and the dogs etc” if later I see someone trying to break in, or trespassing, the rights of my neighbor under the Castle law also extend to me.
You can read the law fully here…. http://www.rc123.com/texas_castle_doctrine.html
Report Post »Welcome Black Carter
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 11:15pmRead the law. You have no duty to retreat. That does not make you an officer…
Zimmerman will be arrested.
younonothing
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 11:46pmYou should read the law. You have no clue on what the says. Please educate your self before you write some dumb blog.
Report Post »lel2007
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 12:28amReply to ‘Welcome-back-carter’ -
Report Post »Most people who carry a gun, and/or keep one at home, do so because police officers are too heavy to carry around, and they’re very expensive.
Should you ever encounter an intruder in your home, you go ahead and dial 911. I expect the police officers will get there just in time to write-up their report, and possibly bag your body before your blood soaks into the flooring.
babylonvi
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 12:51amThat case was NOT a stand your ground case, it was plain and simple self-defense, period.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 1:01amYou No Nothing,
IF your response was to my post, I assure you that I know exactly what the Texas law allows and restricts. IF not, I apologize in advance.
I discussed it in length with both a lawyer friend (Fmr. Prosecuter and 2009 top 10 lawyer in the US) and a SWAT friend following a controversial shooting a few years ago.
As a resident and a gun owner/ daily user, I take the law rather seriously. Perhaps you should read about Joe Horn, didn’t receive the same attention nationally as the most recent case, but it was a big deal here in Texas.
These two dead men were described as Afro-Hispanics and they were shot in the back after robbing his neighbor’s house and the dispatcher telling him NOT to go outside.
Horn was charged and the grand jury failed to indict him.
The case helped to define the limitations and allowances of the Castle Doctrine in Texas.
The 9-11 call can be heard here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPuM_XAo2BE
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=5278638&page=1
The case even got a mention in Wikipedia…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Horn_shooting_controversy
Report Post »osgeek
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 2:43amYou are exactly right, police make no promises to prevent or protect you from crime, in fact many police charters state that fact. They are there to apprehend and investigate AFTER a crime. So calling the police is basically saying “Please catch the people who did this too me because I am severely injured or dead…”
Report Post »judso
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 9:20amYou are far too susceptible to MSM hysteria.
Stand Your Ground does not allow you to shoot anyone who scares you. It simply removes the requirement for you to attempt egress from the situation prior to defending yourself. It could also be called the “Don’t Get Yourself Shot in the Back” law.
It is only speculation at this point that SYG was why Zimmerman was not charged right away. The police wanted to charge him but the prosecutor did not. IF the prosecutor misapplied SYG in this situation, that does not make SYG bad.
As with everything, it is up to a human to make the call. And sometimes, for whatever reason, humans make bad calls.
Stop wringing your hands and pay attention.
Report Post »PPMStudios
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 9:30am@babylonvi
Self-defense IS how the “Stand Your Ground” is defined.
Report Post »wakeus_com
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 9:33amFor liberals, having a thug slam your head into the ground repeatedly does not constitute assault simply because liberals do not have anything inside their heads that can be damaged.
Report Post »PPMStudios
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 9:38am@AxelPhantom
The Joe Horn case did get national publicity. Only the liberal nuts spoke out against him. The rest of us fully supported him.
Still remember him ‘racking’ his shotgun over the phone. Only one thing in the world that makes that sound!
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:02amPPM,
You are correct, it did get national/international scrutiny (I added a BBC report in my links) but Jackson and Sharpton were not camped out in Houston stirring the pot and after a couple of weeks it died down no talk of starting race wars or Nat. Socialists vs. NBP. Trayvon was killed in the beginning of March, we are approaching mid April.
This is being hyped beyond other cases and I highly suspect that it is being provided water from the top of the hill.
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:34amBull Crap. You should be able to defend yourself from thugs no matter where you are. So you think that in your home it is ok to defend yourself-agreed. But, if you are out away from home you have to run and hide and beg for your life like a fricking coward right? Get off my planet sissy.
Report Post »DarthMims
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:51amThose of you who keep saying if you are getting your head banged into the concrete, you have the right to defend yourself, I would just say that if you don’t stalk 17 year-old boys in the dark when an officer has told you on the phone not to, you don’t get your head banged on the concrete.
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 12:00pmThe intent of these laws are based on the following scenario:
Report Post »Armed law abiding citizen is approaching a car in a dark parking garage and witnesses a break-in he yells at criminal to stop, criminal produces weapon and approaches law abiding citizen who fearing for their life shoots criminal.
Or
Law abiding citizen stops at convenience store gas station walks in on armed robbery and shoots criminal.
Or
Law abiding citizen is in class at university and whack job kid commences fire. Citizen shoots whack job and saves many lives.
It gives the right for someone to stop a disaster.
If I see someone break into my neighbors home and know that they are home I will do whatever necessary to protect them.
Texas Chris
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 12:08pmAnti-gun liberals are one mugging, home invasion, or unwarranted @sskicking away from being gun-owning conservatives.
They simply cannot appreciate the right to self-defend with potentially lethal force until they are helpless on their backs having their head banged against the sidewalk by a physically superior attacker.
Report Post »PPMStudios
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 1:08pm@DarthMims
From what I’ve heard, Zimmerman broke off ‘the tail’ when he was told to do so…
Now what? Please finish your THEORIES….
Report Post »wdittgasn
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 1:31pmZimmerman may actually have defended himself. But that situation would have been avoided if he had not pursued Trayvon, But then I believ that when the confrontation occured he reacted with an attitude like you can see when blacks get their order wrong at Mc Donalds, and probably did assault Zimm. But again the confrontation should not have occurred.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 4:24pmDarthMims: “Those of you who keep saying if you are getting your head banged into the concrete, you have the right to defend yourself, I would just say that if you don’t stalk 17 year-old boys in the dark when an officer has told you on the phone not to, you don’t get your head banged on the concrete.”
STALK?
He was a NW, for gods sake! He was doing his job. And from what data are available, he ceased after told by the 911 staffer.
Report Post »DarthMims
Posted on April 11, 2012 at 12:55pmSorry I couldn’t get back yesterday, but PPMSTUDIOS and TWOBYFOUR, the official story for almost a month was that Zimmerman was following in his car, and the 911 operator told him “We don’t need you to do that.” Zimmerman then got out of his car and started following on foot before running into the boy and the incident followed. It has only been the last week that the story is starting to be told differently so that Zimmerman doesn’t look as bad. And he is a “self-appointed neighborhood watch” captain with a neighborhood watch that has never registered as a neighborhood watch. So, technically, he was stalking the boy. Even the Florida legislator that wrote the stand your ground law for Florida said that once Zimmerman ignored the 911 advice, he became the aggressor and stand your ground does not apply. It is the same as going into a bar, starting a fight, and then when you start getting whooped, pull out your gun and claim self-defense.
Report Post »eagle275
Posted on April 11, 2012 at 7:25pmMaybe Treyvon shouldn’t have carried his fists to a gunfight.
Report Post »ThePostman
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:01pmMessage: Stay in Florida, all you Trayvon wannabees.
Good homeowner. Now, he should sue the parents of this kid for all of his mental anguish. They created this monster that had to be dispatched. Imagine how hardened this kid would have been by the age of 27 – he probably would have killed 3 or more people by then. This homeowner saved lives, in my opinion.
Report Post »lancevd
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:14pmExcellent idea!
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:32pmExcellent post, Post.
Report Post »lel2007
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:48pmI think the three intruders were stupid misguided teenagers. One paid the ultimate price for his reckless behavior, hopefully the other two have learned a life lesson and choose an honest life path.
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 11:01pmI agree totally ..Every piece of crap that happens to the liberal new age progressive commie they run to a attorney complaining of mental anguish….That would be the perfect example to teach making parenting a priority ..Seeing that many don’t learn from everyday common sense example. Of good stable people.
Report Post »sandy21957
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 12:26amIn theory that is a good idea, but given the local dynamics, what will he get? An EBT card or broke down hoopty? Can’t get blood out of a turnip. You will see a car wash to raise funds to bury the hoodlum though. No matter how twisted a person is, they still had a mother. Most mothers grieve for the poor choices their children make. So, I do grieve for her, not the kid.
Report Post »rcguy
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 8:09amThe three youths were committing a felony and one was shot and killed. Shouldn’t the other two be charged with felony murder? I believe that happened in Florida a year or two ago.
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:42amRCGuy
Report Post »You are exactly correct. Felony murder. But, they won’t be charged That stuff is reserved for the “unprotected class” of folks.
Skee
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:01pmInstead of taking a test. He took two too the chest.
Report Post »Muddywood
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:14pmthe youth of the nation :)
Report Post »BrerRabbit
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:00pmDarn, only 1 out of three.
Report Post »lel2007
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:40pmIt’s tragic that one so young paid such a high price for his mistake. Hopefully those that escaped have learned a life lesson and grow to be worthwhile honest citizens.
Report Post »Silversmith
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 12:01pmThe choice of action here was made by the home invaders. It was destined for a tragic outcome. There is symmetry that the tragedy was theirs and not the homeowner’s.
The choice – the weak choice – was theirs.
Silversmith
Report Post »cgnick
Posted on April 11, 2012 at 12:39amThe other two probably had just enough sense to let first one “check it out.” I‘m sure they got a whole lot more reasoning on why you don’t invade another person’s space. The one that really learned the hard way was probably the ring leader that turned out to be a little bit too bold for his own good. Natural selection in play.
Report Post »Overton Window
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:00pmI guess I will never understand why kids think they are indestructible. People are going to protect their home, families and property at all cost. We work hard for our things and we love our families and when you step across the line, you will lose. That is why we carry. And that is why we will do what is necessary. And now there is another dead child. Please parents, talk to your kids and try to make them understand.
Report Post »dmforman
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:16pmIt’s not about being invincible. It’s about not having respect for yourself or others. Too many kids think that they deserve what others have and that they don’t have to work for it. A person that doesn‘t have self respect can’t have respect for others. These kids obviously went to cause trouble and do harm. It’s sad that a child is dead, but he made a choice and there are consequences to the choices we all make. Some are fatal.
Report Post »lel2007
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:56pm“never understand why kids think they are indestructible” ???
Report Post »Don‘t know if you’re male or female, but when I was a lad I thought myself immortal. When I look back, I’m amazed I survived my teens to early twenties.
ADNIL
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 5:39amI, too, thought I was indestructible at one time. It was through the “school of hard knocks” that I learned that I wasn’t, and from suffering the pain and consequences of stupid decisions and actions but ONLY because my parents allowed me to suffer and pay for my errors when they were small screw ups that I learned to be careful to avoid the big ones. I blame the parents for this sort of thing, raising young criminals. Not the homeowner.
Report Post »jstonemo
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 9:59amYoung people, under 25 generally, think they are indestructible because their frontal lobe isn’t fully developed. The frontal lobe is the part of the brain that analyzes and assesses risk. In a physiological sense, young people really are mentally disabled.
Report Post »DarthMims
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:57amHow does the old joke go, when I was 17 I couldn’t believe how much more I knew than my father, when I was 27, I couldn’t believe how much the old man had learned in just 10 years.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 4:17pmDarthMims, it’s no joke. It is a precise description of the state of the mindset in these years. In my case, at the age of 25, I realized that I know really nothing. Before that, I was a “know-everything” *****.
Report Post »Sonicfd3
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 9:59pmbreak into my house and your dead,its that simple.
Report Post »lancevd
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:17pmDitto! And done with extreme pleasure!
Report Post »lel2007
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 11:13pmReply to LANCEVD – it is not a good thing that you would feel “extreme pleasure” in taking the life of anyone, even a ruthless criminal.
Report Post »chfields62
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 9:58pmLow lifes 0 armed homeowner 1. Homeowner saves taxpayers money by not having to try and convict and then house another lowlife. When are parents going to take responsibility and teach their kids right from wrong. Another dead kid due to lazy parents…
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 9:57pmDats how we roll in Texas. I wouldnt even knock on most doors in my neighborhood if i didnt have a good reason to be there. We live in a very nice upper middle class neighborhood and we dont need no stinkin patrols…
Report Post »I would also stand back when the homeowner answered the door…especially if the homowner is like me….
mercenary4freedom
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:11pmHad a stranger ring my doorbell today. Answered the door with a .40 in my hand, said….”Not interested & dont come back!”….Did a quick check of the peremiter for any would be shenannegins & still on 100% alert!
Report Post »SoupSammich
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:12pmDats is indicative of racism if not actually spoken by a minority, or unless there is a lot of base in the background. Are you getting all racist Doggy? How about using some Spanglish instead esse?
Report Post »hpyagl
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:31pmSoups
Report Post »That’s a silly question to axe.
antiencenom
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:33pmUpper middle class uhh,nobody believes your bullcrap ba ddoggy,you know as I know you are low rent.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 11:34pmA year ago we accidentally scared the crap out of a delivery guy from the city who came out to drop off a present for my in-laws (we were supposed to take it over for Thanksgiving dinner)
We were all (Me, Hubby, Two sons, Daughter, Son in Law and Son in laws parents and Son in law’s two brothers) getting ready to go target shoot down at the range in the back of the property and were expecting two more people so when dogs started barking and then the door bell rang, we went to the door assuming it was them.
I had my glock holstered on my hip, my daughter was holding a part of her disassembled weapon and my son-in-law was holding his AK (pointed at the ceiling of course).
When we opened the door the expression on the guy’s face was priceless and he almost dropped the “edible arrangement” he was holding.
Combined with the 135 lb dog my husband was holding back, barking like he was going to eat the kid, I actually felt bad for him and gave him an extra tip!
Report Post »408 CheyTac
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 9:53pmbet the other two don’t do that again.
Report Post »AB5r
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:05pmDon’t forget, they are morons, they will do exactly the same thing again.
Report Post »dean_buvia
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:22pmPer law, they will face murder charges.
Report Post »Not as good as being dead, but still…
Enough is Enough__Oath_Keeper
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:43pmThey were committing a felony with the B/E, They should be tried for Felony-murder. it does not matter who killed who in the commission of a felony if someone dies they can all be tried for it. WTG Homeowner Good Shooting
Report Post »possom
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 9:53pmI wonder if the other two will try it again?
Report Post »KingCanon
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:07pmYes. Life is a video game to these junior thugs.
Report Post »Just press the reset button and do it all over again!
THXll38
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 7:39amThey will most likely go after the guy that shot their friend and attempt to wack him. Violence propagates violence. Even though the home owner was in his right, he will be a target to revenge, civil law suits, the police, and the media. I hope he has a lot of money because he will need it. Very sad, but true.
Report Post »Texas Chris
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 12:13pmThey can try again when they get out in 10 to 25.
Now their little thug friends, that’s a different story.
Time for the 1-in-3-shooting homeowner to sell and move out.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 5:01pm“Violence propagates violence.”
Response to violence (burglary in this case), if consistent in a specific area, does not propagate further violence. See crime stats for areas that have anti-gun laws–the violent crime level is on an ascending pattern.
I would keep a check on the two remaining thugs and be ready when they are released. They got off lightly, the next time I wouldn’t make the same mistake.
Report Post »daveposh
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 9:52pmHere is something to teach kids in school:
“If you break into a home that is not yours, you might get killed. DON’T DO IT!”
Report Post »Cat
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:10pmKids are being indoctrinated in schools today, and not being told the truth.
Report Post »They’re being lied to … so they’ll die without a clue.
VoteJoel
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 3:23amYes, that would be very educational. I hope other young hoods get the message too!
Report Post »MKEgal
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:02amThat would mean taking responsibility for their actions.
Report Post »Won’t happen.
Here in WI we had _one_ drunk 20yo break into & hide in someone’s home, then be shot to death when he popped up & moved toward the homeowner… and there’s a hue & cry to repeal Castle Doctrine.
The DA said that it’s pure self-defense.
Normal people point out that if the criminal hadn‘t been committing multiple crimes at the time he’d probably still be alive.
Doesn’t matter. People whine about the law being bad, they whine about how the homeowner should have done things differently, but NONE of them think that the criminal should have done anything different.
dont_tax_me_bro
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 9:51pmAccording the white guilt liberals any crime commited by a black is justified as reparations for slavery. Nevermind that slavery ended more than 100 yrs ago.
Report Post »mildot rider
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:00pmMy family never owned any slaves. As such..I will pay no reparations.
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:25pmThe liberals also don‘t want to acknowledge that Israeli’s were slaves for the Egyptians well before Blacks were slaves. That wouldn’t give them a reason to act like total haters(as they do today).
Report Post »RamonPreston
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:28pmI love the “white guilt” angle. Blacks forget we BOUGHT them from other blacks.We don’t owe them anything.
Report Post »wolverine
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 10:24amThe only problem is we didn’t get our moneys worth when we bought the slaves. I think we need a rebate, how about a 6pack per slave purchased
Report Post »gpk
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 1:17pmMy people fought with the Union. Many of my relatives died. Sharpton/Jackson you owe me money.BTW I live in the south now……..and consider myself a proud Rebel.
Report Post »Since I live alone in the middle of nowhere I keep a loaded weapon in every room…….let the games begin.
wdittgasn
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 1:56pmBikerr: we are brothers to the Israelis, There were 12 tribes of the sons of Jacob (Israel) We are of the same as the Jews. So that slaver deal applies to Us as well. We were slaves long before the blacks were for 400 years, and by a darker race.
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 9:48pmOther than the home owner being ok to shoot, why are not the counselors told to tell others at the school that robbery is wrong?.Why aren’t the parents told to teach it also?
Report Post »dmforman
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:26pmBecause Liberals and Progressives don’t have kids or anyone take responsibility for their actions. It‘s always someone else’s fault.
Report Post »lel2007
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 11:53pmOnce upon a time in America there were no school counselors, and there was no need to tell parents how/what to teach their children. Alas, times have changed.
Report Post »SekndAmendment
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 9:47pmA 14 year old kid can pull the trigger on a gun just as easily as a 24 year burglar. I feel sorry the homeowner had to do that but in those situations hesitation could cost you your life. I would have shot too.
Report Post »dnewton
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:05pmI worked with a man who was shot in the side with a 38 caliber pistol as a gang initiation. He was at a 7-11 store and a 13 year old kid came up to his pick-up truck and opened the door, stuck the gun in his side and pulled the trigger. The man ended up with a colostomy bag and later had his intestines reconnected. Three times in a row, the man went to court, traveling hundreds of miles each time but the case kept on being continued. He was told that tourist are the favorite targets because they are the least likely to show up to testify. He told me that the prosecutor suspected that they would keep manufacturing continuations until the day he could not show up for the trial and try to cut a better deal. The surgeries were paid for by workman’s comp because he was working out of town at the time of the crime. So far his boss has let him off every time the trial is rescheduled.
Report Post »IvanK
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 9:47pmCongrats on the fine and tight grouping Mr Home owner!
Report Post »mildot rider
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:03pmThat was some awesome “gun control”.
Report Post »krod2516
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 9:47pmYes this is what happens in Texas. We carry guns and we are not afraid to use them.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 9:53pmHell, after spending all that money, we are really kinda looking for a reason.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:32pm@ macpappy
Hell, after spending all that money, we are really kinda looking for a reason.
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Wait a minute….what happened the other day when you said you were glad you didn’t live in my world?
You just confirmed that you agree with me more than you admit.
Report Post »antiencenom
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 11:09pmMcpappy ,Are you really that stupid ?
Report Post »THXll38
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 7:45amHow the hell do you people afford guns in Texas? Between the ridiculously high property taxes, the crappy pay, the high state tax:
State Sales Tax: 6.25% (non-prepared food, prescription and non-prescription drugs exempt); local option taxes can raise the rate to 8.25%.
Gasoline Tax: 20 cents/gallon
Diesel Fuel Tax: 20 cents/gallon
Cigarette Tax: $1.41 cents/pack of 20
For a bunch of so called conservatives, you sure do like taxes.
Report Post »Dosrios
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 9:33amTHXLL38 -
“For a bunch of so called conservatives, you sure do like taxes.”
Somebody has to pay for Sheila Jackson Lee‘s constituents’ lifestyles.
BTW, no state income tax.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 2:15pm@TSUNAMI-22
Report Post »Looking closley, it appears that you may be correct.
Moving around, making friends.
macpappy
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 2:21pm@antiencenom
It’s so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don’t say it.
Report Post »Sometimes I can’t help myself.
macpappy
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 2:30pm@THXll38
Report Post »Also worth mentioning, it’s a right to work state, with no state income tax. Can’t tell you how important that is to a self employed person.
RebelYell1862
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 9:27pm@KROD2516 I love Tx but it is so overpopulated with northerners now I wouldn’t live there for anything. I live two states away and we have the same castle law but with a fraction of the population of Tx. You don’t know where these people are coming from into your state.
Report Post »Glock31
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 9:47pmpunk kid got what he deserved
Report Post »Laus Deo
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 9:46pmGreat. Another “racial” murder. My Country has become a different planet before my disgusted eyes.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 9:51pmWhat is racist about taking down home intruders.
Report Post »If ever you have the right to shoot a dog down, it’s after he has forcibly entered your home.
possom
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 9:56pmsince when is breaking and entering considered racial?
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 9:57pmIs this story what they mean when they say, “happy ending”?
Report Post »mildot rider
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 9:59pmMurder? I think it is called “self defense” against thugs.
Report Post »oldguy49
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:01pmred or yellow black or white they will be in my sights……..if they break into my home……….
Report Post »SoupSammich
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:15pmLazy Deo. Deaayo. Daylight come and me wanna go home.
Report Post »Well, libs teach that it is ok to take what is not yours, demand it, make up rights over it, or just steal. This is a repercussion of your sick ideology. Another dead kid thanks to liberal mindset.
chazmo
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:21pmwhat? Again another child commenting.. why in world do you think this is a racial thing?
Report Post »ImMadAsHell
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 10:33pmYou fricken MORON!!!! I will blow these punks away in a Texas heartbeat with my Mossburg 500 12 ga or my 1911. These little POS’s could just as easily had a gun and shot the homeowner because they knew what they were doing was wrong. so AH what should the homeowner done in your feble mind? Hope next time they break into your home then tie you up and beat the snot out of you then lets see if its a racist thing AH
Report Post »lel2007
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 12:13amDo you suppose the home owner check the intruders race and age before he shot?
Report Post »TexasIndependant
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 11:05amRacial Murder… you do realize a 14 year old can kill you by pulling the trigger just as fast as an adult. Someone breaks into my home and I don’t care what color they are… they are going down! White, Black, Brown, Yellow… doesn’t matter… what matters are their actions, it isn’t about race at all…but you clearly are very racial.
Report Post »Red West
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 1:25pmSo it‘s only ok to defend yourself when someone breaks into your home if they’re white? What if they look like George Zimmerman and call themselves hispanic, but MSNBC says they’re white? Then can you shoot?
Tool. Anonymity on the web is fantastic. Only behind the veil of the web would so many retards feel so comfortable saying asinine things that would have them laughed into exile if their actual identity were made public.
Report Post »razvedka
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 1:30pmWhat a small minded little man you must be. Would your sentiments be the same were the roles reversed? You are the worst kind of biggot.
Report Post »razvedka
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 1:38pmWhat a small minded little man you must be. Would your sentiments be the same if the roles were reversed? If so, then you are a racist.
Report Post »wdittgasn
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 2:05pmIf the right to defend yourself is taken away there will still be murders, even more, just that instead of crooks it will be innocent people in their homes getting killed.
Report Post »davrob1
Posted on April 10, 2012 at 7:56pmI doubt whether the homeowner considered what color they were (or gender for that matter). You break in my house in Texas, you die. Period.
Report Post »mildot rider
Posted on April 9, 2012 at 9:43pmReplenishing returns. Do the crime……you get what you deserve.
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