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‘Homophobic & Hurtful’: Gay Activists Protest Kirk Cameron’s Pro-Marriage Speech in NJ

Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:10am by Billy Hallowell
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Gay Activists Protest Kirk Camerons Speech About Marriage

Since March, actor Kirk Cameron has faced a slew of controversy surrounding his views on same-sex marriage. While the entertainer and documentary director didn’t initially seek to advertise his opinions on the matter, it was an interview with CNN’s Piers Morgan during which he was asked to share his views on the subject that set the stage for the continued protest against him.

On Friday, the drama continued, as Cameron spoke at a marriage event in Ocean Grove, New Jersey. After learning about his appearance, which did not at all focus upon same-sex issues, gay and lesbian activists showed up to protest outside of the venue.

According to The Christian Post, Cameron was speaking at the Great Auditorium when about 100 protesters showed up to march silently in front of the venue. The participants, part of a self-described civil rights group called Ocean Grove United, held signs that read, “Kirk! Your Words Hurt Us!” Another sign read,” Hey Kirk, Will God Judge Me For Loving Or Judge You For Hating?”

Here’s how the group described the event on its web site:

Thank you to all the people who made the Ocean Grove United weekend events so successful. On Friday evening we came together as a unified community outside the doors of the Great Auditorium to protest the homophobic and hurtful words of Kirk Cameron who was presenting a program inside. LGBT and straight, old and young, various religions, and an array of racial and ethnic backgrounds – what we share is a love of Ocean Grove and the diversity and acceptance that makes it such a special place.

Then we continued the celebration at a town-wide block party with music and dancing in the street. We saw old friends and made new ones. On Saturday, at a luncheon hosted by OGU, members of theGarden State Equality Youth Caucus shared their personal stories of being bullied with several Trustees of the Ocean Grove Camp Meeting Association. We heard how Kirk Cameron’s words and similar words from celebrities can reverberate and encourage others to become bullies. The teens were inspirational in their insights and in their courage to speak out.

Gay Activists Protest Kirk Camerons Speech About Marriage

Image Credit: Ocean Grove United

While the crowd outside the venue was of noteworthy size and scope, the one inside dwarfed it, as 6,000 couples showed up to the event to hear Cameron speak about Christian marriage. Another group — Youth Caucus at Garden State Equality — had reached out to the actor to invite him to lunch to discuss why his views could lead, in their view, to anti-gay bullying. Cameron sent a letter to the group, citing a scheduling conflict.

A spokesperson for Cameron told The Christian Post that the event had nothing to do with gay marriage and that the actor “loves and prays for all groups of people.” Additionally, the representative reiterated that Cameron “does not discriminate” against any group.

The Friday speech was part of Ocean Grove’s Camp Meeting Association week, which provides citizens with resources and seminars that focus on strengthening marriage.

(H/T: The Christian Post)

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Comments (571)

funjumper
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:47am
Kirk is a strong Christian, Homosexuality is a sin against God. God’s Word declares it. No need to hate the messenger, who they really hate is God.
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- Independent4233
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:53am
  “Hey Kirk, will God judge me for loving or judge you for hating?”
  
  He’ll judge you for being so evil you reuse to try to rid yourself of your evil mental disorder, because you’re too corrupt as a person to change.
- john vincent
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:08am
  hey indy
  it appears you are confusing Kirks stance on an age old issue, in which u simply disagree, with
  the STING that you sense from a God given conscience, telling you Mr. Cameron is correct.
  
  Please do not play the fool with baseless charges of hate.
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- JesusFreak95
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:09am
  Keep the faith Kirk! Love the sinner, hate the sin. There is a difference.
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- stage9
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:18am
  First of all, love is not the criteria by which marriage is defined or justified. Marriage is defined by a public, legal commitment, and love is not a necessary component of the contract (though it is a good idea to love each other). Marriage is entered into by a mutual agreement that involves emotional and sexual faithfulness and the promise to raise children within its bonds. Of course, some heterosexual couples can’t have children, and some adults marry knowing they will not have children. The issue is that marriage has always been the normal means in which children have been brought into the world. The marriage institution is supposed to provide a stable environment.
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- stage9
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:19am
  What about polygamy and polyandry? Would those who say homosexual marriage is okay, as long as two people love each other, also advocate one man having many wives and one woman having many husbands as long as they love each other? It would seem that in order to be consistent they would have to.
  
  Where does it stop? Just saying that love is what justifies homosexual marriage can also be used to justify other things. It is a dangerous argument, illogical, and is wrought with problems and pitfalls.
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- Listen_then_think
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:34am
  @ independent
  God will judge you for physically loving a person of the same sex, which is a sin. You know that. Which is why you feel such guilt. You are just too weak to follow Gods’ commandments.
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- turkey13
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:37am
  It looks like Kirk has read the Bible – Romans 1 – Ch 1 verses 26-32. God in Ver. 32 – put Q_ueers right beside murderers. In ver. 26 he says that a man is only to be with a woman and a woman is to only be with a man.
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- Chet Hempstead
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:43am
  stage9
  I’ve been to a lot of weddings, and all of the services mentioned love, but none of them mentioned children.
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- Roberto G. Vasquez
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:45am
  @ INDEPENDENT 4233
  
  Homosexuality and man/man marriage are sexually pervered lifestyles and everybody knows it, even homosexuals.
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- not funny
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:46am
  Everyone should have the right to express one’s opinion on any subject without being assumed to be a bigot, racist, whatever. Gay marriage is a slippery slope anyway–where does it go from there. The family on “Sister Wives” feels that they have a right to group marriage. Does it? Do those supporting gay marriage also support group marriage?
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- BuggiOlleo
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:59am
  Today, it seems unlawful to have a difference of opinion which is not PC.. I guess that I’ll be the first on the Bloc to have a difference of opinion.
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- Sunny10
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:00am
  With you Funjumper! Christians believe the Bible; God said it; Kirk believes God’s word; I believe God’s word. It is simple not difficult. No hate for homosexuals, just God’s truth.
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- DOra Glasberg
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:03am
  Koik is just looking for another 15 minutes.
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- Hiswill
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:07am
  Kirk doesn’t hate gays or gay marriage. He loves God, marriage between a man and a woman, and family. Why can’t these protesters just respect his beliefs? There is a difference between hating something or someone and just plain not believing in it.
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- Twinspeedr
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:18am
  Amen.
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- black9897
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:22am
  I hate it when people say that disagreement = hate. Disagreement is just that. I’ve never seen him do it in a hateful way either. I guess these days if someone doesn’t agree with your actions or what you believe you are labeled “bigot, hateful, intolerant.”
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- freeus
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:35am
  Thanks for your courage, by exercising your right to freedom of speech and admonishing the sinner, Kirk. You are in my prayers.
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- KissMyAmericanFlag
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:35am
  The ‘controversy’ is a media-ted slugfest pitting opposing views, and it occurs to me the so-called ‘hate’ is misdirected as a defense against (accurately percieved) disapproval and/ or disagreement with the lifestyle as well as the forcing of it on the rest of us. IMO, it’s not hatred per se; rather the resentment against the ‘special rights’ demanded, the inculcating of youth toward that which is non-traditional, costly in terms of health care and research cures unwillingly subsidized by US citizen taxpayers. Another example of taxation without representation.
  
  If one chooses to do the dance, one should rightly pay the piper for the tune.
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- Copper Catfish
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:38am
  God will judge ALL of us!
  We still have First Amendment rights to Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Speech, so Kirk has the right to express his opinion, which he did, without hatred.
  The people who accused him of hating are projecting their own feelings.
  In the end, God will sort it out. I stand with Kirk!
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- saranda
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:44am
  Adultery is also a sin and in fact God put it into the big ten. Why does this site and indeed more Christians not express moral outrage about the long list of adulterers. I realize gays are easier targets. Because likely many of you have cheated on spouses. Christians my ass.
- mecanic
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:48am
  GOD BLESS KIRK. these things will NEVER get me to accept there lifestyle. it’s an ABOMINATION. AND WILL ALWAYS BE. go back to mass. where they accept that ABOMINATION. leave us NORMAL PEOPLE ALONE. WE WILL NEVER EVER ACCEPT IT and you can’t force us, get over it. AGAIN LEAVE NORMAL PEOPLE ALONE and LIVE ALONE IN YOUR SIN.
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- PATTY HENRY
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:54am
  Kirk Cameron is a fine American man. He’s decent, hard-working, good Dad and Husband and spends his life helping others to come to know Jesus Christ.
  The NEXT biggest mistake that Homosexuals make is criticizing people who don’t approve of their life style. DUDES: YOU can’t force someone to approve of your lifestyle if they believe it to be sinful. YOU can’t make your lifestyle acceptable because you rant and rave, boycott, try to ruin someone from having an honest opinion. YOU can’t make someone approve of your life style by forcing their YOUNG children to read about it in school in the 1st grade.
  Most of us don’t care about your life style, we look at you for your character and many of us pity you for your situation, but we don’t HATE YOU, or even DISLIKE YOU until, of course, you come after good people like Kirk Cameron for expressing his belief in Marriage being between a Man and a Woman. get over it. YOU are not going to change the minds of people who believe what you do is a sin. THEY are not trying to stop you, or put you in jail, or cut off your heads (like Islam does/has done and wants to do) …are they? SO stop trying to force YOUR lifestyle down our throats. Most of us are too busy trying to stop Obama’s World Dictator Wanna-Be efforts to worry about your life style. anyway. but YOU cannot force me to say I approve of your life style. I may really like YOU, but you can not force me to approve of your lifestyle. Get it?
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- KissMyAmericanFlag
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:55am
  I intend now to actively seek out movies which feature Kirk Cameron, since he wins my ‘vote’ as a decent, upstanding, apparently conscientious person who happens to act for a living.
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- PlowMan
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:55am
  Great comments on this thread!! I don’t sense a hateful word on here. It‘s too bad these folks can’t see this. I agree, hate the sin love the sinner. I hope they can come around someday. There are things I don’t necessarily like, from a human desire point of view, about the Bible. But I suppress my animal instinct and follow what our maker wants us to do. Mostly because I don’t want to hurt my fellow man or myself but also because I want to go to heaven.
  
  I know Kirk won’t see this but, your in my prayers man! Keep up the good work!!
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- Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:00pm
  Sin is an imaginary disease created by man to sell you an imaginary cure.
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- Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:09pm
  Kissmyamericanflag, you will now actively seek out movies starring Kirk Cameron? Good luck with that. Good luck with that. How will you ever decide between the Growing Pains movie and the Growing Pains reunion movie?
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- sawbuck
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:10pm
  Sandra ..
  When the ‘adulterer community’ has an ‘organize protest’
  against Christians events…
  
  When Adulterers lobby congress ..
  
  When Adulterers start pushing their adulterous lifestyle
  down everybody’s throat that doesn’t agree with them.
  
  When the adulterers try to justify their sinful life ..
  And proclaim that it is just as moral as any other lifestyle
  
  Then we will talk about adultery ok ..Do you feel better now..?
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:32pm
  Good for him.Keep it at home and in church.
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- NHwinter
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:51pm
  sawbuck – thank you for saying to Sandra what I was going to say. Interesting how she jumped from one subject to another that is not in the article. Trolls seem to judge Christians in the harshest way, yet we could easily judge them for judging us without even knowing what we think on a whole variety of subjects that the bible discusses.
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- HYPNOTOAD
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:56pm
  To BLACK9897: The leftists use the word “hate” to shut up the people who say what they don’t like. They know deep in their core that Christians don’t hate. But it helps their narrative to scream “hate” all day.
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- extremerightwinger
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:57pm
  Hey independent…….ummmmmm…….you’re an idiot. Leave those alone for their beliefs. Im sure you would be hurt too if someone called you evil. Now get a life or go to a socialist country where you can get your free stuff and kiss all the men you want.
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- stage9
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 1:01pm
  Chet Hempstead,
  
  I’ve also seen a lot of divorces that had weddings that had “love” and didn’t consider commitment and children. So my point still stands!
  
  Love is an action, not a feeling.
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- SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 1:13pm
  @ REALITY…..May I ask by what standard you judge rigth or wrong? Do you hold to moral absolutes or not?
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- black9897
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 1:23pm
  @HYPNOTOAD
  Yep. Too bad some people give in because they’re afraid of being labeled with lies.
  
  @SARANDA
  
  True, adultery is a sin. I agree that no one should pick on one sin. There’s something you must understand though.
  
  Adultery, at least for the most part isn’t looked at by society as “good” or “honorable.” Yes, a lot of it goes on but it’s still looked down upon.
  
  Homosexuality, while not only a hot topic, is viewed, or at least really starting to be accepted in today’s society as good, normal, ok. So, since it is viewed in this way by many people you will have those who speak out against it. Now, if there are stories where a group of people say there is nothing wrong with cheating and I’m sure it has been said before. then I will gladly say the same thing about Adultery as any other sin.
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- Independent4233
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 1:29pm
  Listen_then_think
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:34am
  @ independent
  “God will judge you for physically loving a person of the same sex, which is a sin. You know that. Which is why you feel such guilt. You are just too weak to follow Gods’ commandments.”
  
  I’m agnostic, moron.
  
  When I speak of “god” I’m alluding to the beliefs his followers subscribe to.
  
  It has nothing to do with weakness, which, by the way, is found in abundance among people like you who need a crutch.
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- Independent4233
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 1:34pm
  Roberto G. Vasquez
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:45am
  @ INDEPENDENT 4233
  
  “Homosexuality and man/man marriage are sexually pervered lifestyles and everybody knows it, even homosexuals.:
  
  You’ve got it right on, Robert.
  
  Inbedded in every creature in the animal kingdom…..second only to the overwhelming compulsion to survive…… is its desire to perpetuate its species and to regard anything in opposition to that as repulsive and disgusting.
  
  It really has nothing to do with religion.
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- Independent4233
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 1:40pm
  extremerightwinger
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:57pm
  “Hey independent…….ummmmmm…….you’re an idiot.”
  
  You mean an idiot like one who says ummmmm before he can express himself?
  
  “Leave those alone for their beliefs. Im sure you would be hurt too if someone called you evil.”
  
  Hurt? For being called evil? This is a skin that is two inches thick, moron, and I can give back as much as you want to take, with an attitude like a rattlesnake.
  
  Why don’t you go to a shrink and try to get cured instead of living a life of perversion? You’re no different than a drug addict or alcoholic. You refuse to seek help. You’re not born that way, you’re MADE that way.
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- Independent4233
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 1:46pm
  Listen_then_think
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:34am
  @ independent
  “God will judge you for physically loving a person of the same sex, which is a sin. You know that. Which is why you feel such guilt. You are just too weak to follow Gods’ commandments.”
  
  Howanyonecould beso stupidas to misread my post iabsolutely amazing.
  
  I’d advise you to re-read everything at least ten times before you respond.
  
  Read it again:
  Independent4233
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:53am
  QUOTE FROM ABOVE STORY: “Hey Kirk, will God judge me for loving or judge you for hating?”
  
  Independent4233: He’ll judge you for being so evil you refuse to try to rid yourself of your evil mental disorder, because you’re too corrupt as a person to change
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- AvengerK
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:00pm
  It’s time to take away the weapon from the homosexual lobby. It’s time to stop letting them set the discussion and the terms and vocabularly.
  No..it isn’t “hurtful” to say you support NORMAL marriage. Just as it’s not “hurtful” to say you support homosexual marriage. When you see homosexuals and their advocates react like the mob is to Cameron..you call them on their intolerance. You don’t pander to their sensibitilies. You call them on blog boards and to their faces.
  THEY MUST respect other’s views as they demand others respect theirs.
  It‘s time to take away the homosexual lobby’s weapons. The madness has gone too far. The warping and twisting and mangling of the language and societal norms by less than 2% of the population is to cease and it begins right now.
  Cameron has done nothing wrong by reiterating his stand on NORMAL marriage. In fact..call it what it is..NORMAL marriage.
  Enough of the madness from the left…
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- stage9
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:04pm
  Those weddings whose aim is “love” still end in divorce. If they divorce, where is the “love” that was supposed to “hold everything together”? If love is the reason people give to justify marriage then why are you divorcing??
  
  Loving someone is an action expressed THROUGH COMMITMENT! Love is not a “feeling”. That is the problem with counterfeit marriage and marriages in general. They’re all based on fleeting “feelings” rather than genuine commitment.
  
  Did you not hear what the minister said at the alter? That this VOW shouldn’t be entered into lightly? And what IS A VOW? it is a COMMITMENT before GOD and man that you will, whether in sickness and in health, richer or for poorer, till death remain faithfully committed to your spouse!
  
  The “in love” feeling that motivates MOST to marry today is illusory! So much so that researchers say that it is akin to being INSANE! Meaning those who are “in love” (usually these days it’s more like being “in lust”!) will do just about ANYTHING to please the other person even to the extent that it borders on the insane!
  
  But what happens when the euphoria of being “in love” passes; when the cameras stop snapping; the Minister and all the guests have gone home; and the thrill of the wedding day passes….what then?
  
  COMMITMENT is the enduring quality that sustains a marriage even when love is hard to come by.
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- Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:17pm
  To all the biblical cherry pickers, the bible, particularly Leviticus, forbids many things including:
  
  - Tattoos
  -Having sex durring a woman’s period.
  -Eating animals without split hooves.
  -Fish without fins or without scales (sorry catfish lovers)
  -Sex until 33 days after birthing son or 66 days after birthing daughter.
  -Clothing with different kinds of material
  -Planting of fields with different kinds of seeds.
  -Trimming hair on sides of beard or sides of head.
  
  Take a look at yourself. Are you clean shaven? Have a tattoo? Wearing clothing of mixed fabrics or anything else listed above? If so then you are a sinner in the same way you think gays are. Take a look at your own sins before condemning others. After all, let he who is without sin cast the first stone, hipocrites.
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- AvengerK
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:45pm
  REALITY_BITES..you seem to be offering Rabbinic laws. When they apply to christians come back and post again. Otherwise..take it up with a rabbi.
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- SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:58pm
  @ REALITY…still waiting to see if you would mind answering my initial questions. BTW many of the things you listed as sins were ceremonial laws given to OT Hebrews who were still under the 1st covenant of the law. We are now under a “new” covenant as Jesus said and the old has passed away. We have all been made clean (believers that is) by the blood of Jesus Christ so when we eat catfish or shave our hair or eat animals with split hooves we are not sinning my friend.
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- sawbuck
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 3:03pm
  @REALITY BITES.
  Since you didn’t repudiate or even reply to my post in regards to your
  Comment that is so widely used to excuse abnormal behavior …
  I will assume you completely skipped over my comment..
  
  Here it is again and you can replace ‘ADULTRY’ with any ‘SIN’
  Of your choosing that you want to hammer Christians on…
  
  ~~~~
  When the ‘adulterer community’ has an ‘organize protest’
  against Christians events…
  When Adulterers lobby congress ..
  When Adulterers start pushing their adulterous lifestyle
  down everybody’s throat that doesn’t agree with them.
  When the adulterers try to justify their sinful life ..
  And proclaim that it is just as moral as any other lifestyle
  Then we will talk about adultery ok ..Do you feel better now..?
  ~~
  Please use a different argument next time…RB….FAIL.
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- Tractorboy
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 3:04pm
  @Moderationisbest, This subject really has you bugged, doesn’t it, seems you really hate the fact that marriage is only between a man and a woman, don‘t worry friend I’m sure in twenty years it will be illegal for one man to marry one woman, the same nonsense the libs have done to the sight of the stars and bars they are doing to marriage, and this should please you and I hope I will be dead and gone and not living in your world. Because in your twisted world things run like crap and you know it, Or is this just a exercise of your big brain. God has layed out the perfect set of rules to live by, and you can’t stand that, you have looked at all the evidence, and you reject it, and try to sell the opposite to us, no sale. Good news for you, you can change your mind, God stands with open arms waiting for your return. God is a loving God, he created everything, but he hates our sin, not just the sexual sin,all sin, because it creates distance between his children and him. God bless
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- Locked
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 3:05pm
  @Reality
  
  “Take a look at yourself. Are you clean shaven? Have a tattoo? Wearing clothing of mixed fabrics or anything else listed above? If so then you are a sinner in the same way you think gays are.”
  
  The Old Testament’s laws apply to Jews, not Christians. With Christ and through his death a new covenant was made, and the harsh laws of the old covenant were made obsolete (as were the punishments: thus, no more stoning adulterers and whatnot). Hence, while Leviticus is no longer followed, homosexuality is still a sin as per several passages in the New Testament (such as Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, and 1 Timothy 1:9-10).
  
  On a side note, a lot of people will still cherry-pick what they like in the Old Testament. It’s certainly not a bad idea to personally follow most of the old laws (such as the Commandments, 9/10 of which are repeated in some form in the NT); it’s just not necessary for salvation through Christ.
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- TexVet61
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 3:45pm
  4233, this shows your ignorance and hatred for anybody that doesn’t tow the line for your life style.
  Kirk is the man, as well as everyone with his beliefs; marriage IS BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN.
  Want to call me a hater, a bigot, whatever, I can live with that. But it won’t change my mind and my vote and we will never cave to your threats and your violence doesn’t scare us. BRING IT ON
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- proactive
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 3:46pm
  You are so right, as I said once before, if you don’t agree with the homosexual stance, they will attack you in any way they can. Attacking has always been the homosexual agenda as I remember from being attacked as a young boy and even as a teenager.
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- RWCT
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 4:22pm
  Romans Ch 1 V 19 onwards states what God thinks of homosexuality and lesbianism. God truly loves these men and women, as I do, but their SIN results in ETERNAL separation from HIM. They MUST repent of their sin, and then and ONLY then, can they have salvation. There is NO OTHER NAME UNDER HEAVEN[Jesus Christ], by which we can be saved. I pray for them to admit their sin, and seek refuge in the ONE TRUE GOD, who truly does love them, but His Holiness, and justice, will NEVER be compromised. We either do GODS’ will, or satans.
  Maranatha.
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- walkintruth
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 4:30pm
  The messenger is always blamed and persecuted. It goes with the assignment. It isn’t an easy path, but it is the right one. I give Kirk a lot of credit. He is in a field where actors have the opposite view. It must be very hard for him not to be accepted because of his faith. You can see that faith in what makes him strong and unafraid.
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- Taquoshi
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 4:55pm
  @ Chet
  
  You’ve apparently not been to a Roman Catholic wedding, or if you were, you weren’t paying attention.
  
  Rite of Marriage
  
  All stand, including the bride and bridegroom, and the priest addresses them in these or similar words:
  
  My dear friends, you have come together in this church so that the Lord may seal and strengthen your love in the presence of the Church’s minister and this community. Christ abundantly blesses this love. He has already consecrated you in baptism and now he enriches and strengthens you by a special sacrament so that you may assume the duties of marriage in mutual and lasting fidelity. And so, in the presence of the Church, I ask you to state your intentions.
  
  The priest then questions them about their freedom of choice, faithfulness to each other, and the acceptance and upbringing of children.
  
  (Name) and (Name), have you come here freely and without reservation to give yourselves to each other in marriage?
  
  Will you love and honor each other as man and wife for the rest of your lives?
  
  The following question may be omitted if, for example, the couple is advanced in years.
  
  Will you accept children lovingly from God and bring them up according to the law of Christ and his Church? Each answers the questions separately.
  
  http://catholicweddinghelp.com/topics/text-rite-of-marriage-mass.htm
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- Angel_light
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 5:08pm
  that is true. when will these people stop mistaking hate for disagreement?
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- BloodSweatandTears
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:11pm
  At it’s most simple— Kirk is looking to find favor in God’s eyes. ‘Men’ are looking to find favor in –man’s eyes. Take your pick. And good luck.
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- fairsunshine
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:27pm
  Well SAID! Why are they Christophobic? Just bec they hate Christians, they assume that Christians hate them. I guess the gays can’t imagine NOT hating someone with a different view. (I don’t hear Christians whining that “they” hurt our feelings.)
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- colt1860
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:34pm
  When will Christians protest against these Homosexuals and raical Liberals that hate traditional families!? Its time to stand up folks. I LOVE my mother and father, and would never like to have two fathers and no mother. That’s not hate, that’s sanity! These radicals are dangerous, deluded, pathetic, arrogant, and getting me mad. Wake up folks.
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- dmerwin
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:38pm
  Note to advocates. More people hate you (and me) because we are Americans living in freedom (sort of) than hate you because you are gay. Grow up, some people will never like the act. Me, don’t care, worked my whole life with gay people who were and are outstanding co-workers. Take pride in YOURSELF, not your sexual practices.
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- ericthebarbaric
  Posted on August 1, 2012 at 12:27am
  Don’t feel as though homosexuality is a crime against anyone. It is their own handicap. But would never give special rights to those afflicted. Changing the definition of the word “marriage” would not help their affliction. Nor should have changing the definition of the word “gay”. But it is too late for that. That said, I do understand their plight. It’s just not right to change our norms for their desires in my opinion.
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- margarine
  Posted on August 1, 2012 at 12:51am
  Obama was always for gay marriage-I heard he even might have experimented in college himself. He is not a true Christian, didn’t even like to go to church, until someone told him it was politically useful. The pro-traditional marriage laws specifically say there is NO ban on contracts between private parties, meaning NO ban on domestic partnerships, civil unions, etc. The purpose of these laws is to DEFINE what marriage is, not to ban anything! Gay conservatives agree that the definition of marriage is btw. a man and a woman. It’s the liberal gay activists who want to re-order society. Gays already have all the rights to do whatever they want. These laws are NOT telling gays who to love and who not to love! But the gay activists make it out to be “discrimination”, etc. The left uses words like “discrimination, racism, sexism” whenever someone doesn’t agree with them.
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- Mgjkredpath57
  Posted on August 1, 2012 at 2:00am
  Most of these comments re-enforces why I left the Church. Such close-mindedness and focus hate is utterly un-christian. I am versed in the bible, and in particular I remember one piece of advice most of you have forgotten… “How can you remove the mote in your neighbors eye when you can’t see past the beam in your own?”I apologize to the decent people who live their faith, but some of you “christians” scare the crap out of me. So rabid, so judgmental, so unloving. You are not the persecuted, but the persecutors. I pray Great Spirit receives you with more forgiveness than you give your brethren.
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- 2gether
  Posted on August 1, 2012 at 2:37am
  Kirk never said he hated anybody. The protesters did and the media perpetuates the lie. Why are Christians told that their views are WRONG yet gays just assume that they can impose their beliefs on everyone else…no matter that it offends their religious beliefs. Who is the bigot here? People aren’t willing to let others follow their religious beliefs and I wonder when it became OK for our press and our government to be bigots and to act punitivel in judgement of those who would dare stand by their beliefs? Those who follow their beliefs are not hate mongers, they don’t judge others yet they are intimidated and vilified at every turn. All I can say, which is certainly not news to Christians, is that “your reward will be great in heaven.”
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- Dorugremon
  Posted on August 1, 2012 at 3:05am
  black9897:
  
  To extreme leftists there is no such thing as an honest difference of opinion. If you fail to see things *exactly* their way, you are somehow defective. That is just how arrogant they are.
  
  I don’t agree with a lot of things Cameron says, but I have never known him to advocate violence, or call nasty names, or attribute a disagreement to some defect, those with whom *he* disagrees.
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- poorrichard09
  Posted on August 1, 2012 at 8:15am
  Does anyone see a pattern here? If anybody says anything other than “LGBT marriage is a-ok” they are attacked big time (like the Chick-fil-a guy). Must be the lgbt “strategy”.
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- txdave22
  Posted on August 1, 2012 at 11:49am
  WHY SHOULD THIS CHANGE BETWEEN NOW
  AND NOV, EXCEPT IN OBAMA’S FAVOR?
  
  President Obama leads Mitt Romney among likely voters in Ohio and Florida – and has a double-digit lead in Pennsylvania – according to a Quinnipiac University/CBS News/New York Times poll released this morning.
  
  The poll, conducted from July 24-30, shows Mr. Obama leading his presumptive Republican challenger 53 percent to 42 percent in Pennsylvania. The 11-point lead results largely from independents, who favor the president by 22 points, and women, who favor the president by 24 points.
  
  Mr. Obama holds a six-point lead in Ohio, 50 percent to 44 percent, a state where he holds a campaign event later today. His lead here is also due in large part to women, who back him by a 21-point margin. Romney leads by ten points among Ohio men, and seven points among Ohio whites.
  
  In Florida, Mr. Obama also holds a six point lead, 51 percent to 45 percent. He holds a small lead among both men and women and a 19-point lead among Hispanics, while Romney leads by double-digits among whites and voters age 65 and above.
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- txdave22
  Posted on August 1, 2012 at 11:51am
  Hey, kirk
  
  how’s that acting career going? haven’t seen you in any blockbusters?
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- rickc34
  Posted on August 1, 2012 at 12:10pm
  The left is making all the noise because of Kirks stand on marriage, he has not said anything to attack the left but they come out with their God hate speech, yes God will judge by the choices one makes, read the Bible it is there , the left are the true hate mongers just read some of the posts here and you can see what is in their heart. If you do not like it leave the Blaze, you choose to be here. Jesus Christ is Lord of Lords and King of Kings, will your name be found in the book of life? or will it be blotted out? Keep the faith Kirk.
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- ChappellGirl5
  Posted on August 1, 2012 at 1:23pm
  I notice a lot of verbal attacks against independent4233′s comment, but I’m not sure why. He/she was commenting on a sign (“Will God judge me for loving or you for hating”) & (I believe) basically said that God will judge the people who refuse to acknowledge their sin (homosexuality to be specific to this post) & ask forgiveness for it. The ones attacking him/her seem to believe that he/she was saying he/she agreed with the sign.
  
  Also @saranda, when Christian say that we believe in marriage being between one man & one woman we are not just speaking against homosexual marriage, but also about polygamy & adultery as well as non-marital sexual relations because they all are sexual sins. Just as murder, lying, stealing & blasphemy are sins & we speak against them also, but this article isn’t about adultery or polygamy, but about homosexuals trying to force someone to deny God & honor them instead.
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jim40401
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:46am
Why is it when we stand up for our opinions and beliefs we are hater, racist and spewing hate speech. When they stand up for thier beliefs everything is hunkdorey and is applauded. Is it that secretly they know that what they are doing is wrong? In all sense of the word wrong. Oh yeah by the way if you all want to say that is old testement and we do not go by the old testament and the old covenant well the passage to read in the new is Romans 1:18-32 this is new convenant and is still wrong. It was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
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- watersRpeople
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:15am
  Child don’t put too much thought into things, because it’s more important to be blind folded and reach out with your heart. Don’t you know the Lord is on the earth? That’s climate change.
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- Dismayed Veteran
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:18am
  I think that they hate themselves and project that to us. All BGLT’s know their life style is morally wrong and sin weighs heavily on their souls. Anger and hate towards us is their only avenue.
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- DOra Glasberg
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:53am
  This is a civil rights issue.
  In this country we are all entitled to DIFFERENT religious views.
  Did you know that?
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- sWampy
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:18am
  There is no civil rights to abuse an abused person, you liberals are sick to the core.
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- Twinspeedr
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:33am
  @Dora
  
  Different views are great. However Marriage is a Judeo Christian sacrament (I know it is hard to separate things sometimes since we all live in a Judeo-Christian nation). The problem here is that Homosexuals are asking to debase the institution of Marriage which is defined a consecrated union between a man and a woman. This is not about hate, it is about insisting that our society insert something that is anathema to the institution itself. Homosexuals can do whatever they like, but as a tiny minority they simply cannot be allowed to force the acceptance of their beliefs on the majority.
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- Chet Hempstead
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:15pm
  “Why is it when we stand up for our opinions and beliefs we are hater, racist and spewing hate speech. When they stand up for thier beliefs everything is hunkdorey and is applauded”
  
  That’s an easy one. Their beliefs are right and just, and your beliefs are evil.
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- ModerationIsBest
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 1:25pm
  @TWINSPEEDR
  
  If marriage is strictly a religious sacrament, then the government has no business endorsing it and granting it special status.
  
  Here, let’s solve this problem. Let’s revoke all marriage licenses and distribute everyone who wants one, a civil union. Religious people could then get married in their church, and a church wouldn‘t have to marry anyone they don’t want. That marriage is only recognized by them and their God and has no recognition outside of that church. Does that work for me?
  
  I bet a lot of religious people wouldn’t be okay with that. They talk about religious freedom, and keeping government out of religion, but here they have no problem with it. They want the Government endorsement that what they’re doing is correct.
  
  Also, I don’t think marriage was legally defined as a man and a woman, which is why so many states are voting on Constitutional amendments to make it such
  
  Marriage also isn’t just a Judeo Christian ritual. To say that would mean you are saying that nobody got married before the Old Testament was written. The Old Testament is based on ramblings from a guy who wasn’t there when the world was created.
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- AvengerK
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:53pm
  Yes very good Orwellianly named MODERATIONISBEST.
  Why do you think marriage didn’t have to be defined as being between a man and a woman in the past? I’ll answer for you..because up until the madness of liberalism today…it wasn’t necessary to acknowledge aberrations of the human sexual psyche and their subsequent delusions as legitimate marriage. Our forebearers understood the unnatural nature of homosexuality it didn’t need to be delineated. Only today..37 states have had to amend their constitutions by having to spell out the obvious..that marriage is solely a man and woman.
  Nice try champ.
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- Taquoshi
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 5:11pm
  Interesting question. I came across this quote in a book earlier today by a British Author.
  
  “The Human Rights Convention was originally conceived in another era altogether. Drafted in the wake of World War II, it was an attempt to lay down a set of principals to ensure that totalitarianism would never deface Europe again. It has now mutated into something very different. …
  
  The emergence of a culture of hyper-individualism gave rise to a radical egalitarianism of lifestyles and values. Morality was privatized and all constraints of religion, tradition or cultural taboo came to be seen ass an attack on personal autonomy. …
  
  The values of the dominant culture thus had to be replaced by the perspectives of the self-designated victim groups. … The only taboo now was the expression of normative majority values such as monogamy, heterosexuality, Christianity, or Britishness. Because these were rooted in the particular, there were by definition discriminatory.
  
  pp 24-25 Londonistan, by Melanie Phillips, copyright 2006
  
  She goes into much more detail in the book than I have characters to post. Well worth reading.
  
  So, in the eyes of the “gays”, who seem to me to be the most unhappiest people on earth, Kirk Cameron violates their code of “ethics” simply because he is: 1. a Christian; 2. heterosexual and 3. monogamous. According to them, three strikes, he’s out!
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- colt1860
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:28pm
  “civil rights issue”?
  
  That’s like saying the freedom to marry my dog, aunt, sister, mother or grandma is a civil right’s issue. Being in “love” with someone does not create or grant you the right to marry that person. There are laws against marrying minors, mothers, siblings, married persons, beasts and your toaster oven. What liberals seek is not a natural right but a SPECIAL privelage. They forcefully seek public acceptance, for the Law to condone their UNNATURAL behavior, and to forcefully radicalize the definition of marriage. Marriage is a natural and ancient institution, established by the laws of Nature and nature’s God. Murder will always mean a certain thing, as will theft and lying. Relative morality is for those who have no courage to stand for the truth or who have no backbone to follow those laws binding on all men. They have no respect for Law.
  
  Laws passed by men CANNOT alter or change laws existent in NATURE already. No statute can invalidate what God has created. No ordinance can outlaw what God has instituted. No earthly Government can alter what God has purposed. To ignore the God of the bible is to ignore our heritage and organic laws. Our founding fathers ‘appealed to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of their intentions’. We would be foolish to disregard their actions, and continue in complete ignorance and denial of the truth.
  
  If they radicalize marriage, parental rights will be next!
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Ch
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:46am
Good for Kirk. Hey, homosexuals…you are losing support because you are such dictators.
FREEDOM OF THOUGHT AND CONSCIENCE…HOW COME GAYS CAN’T COME TO GRIPS WITH THAT?
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- DOra Glasberg
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:54am
  Losing support?
  It’s the MAJOR plank in the DNC platform.
  You guys just make things up.
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- sWampy
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:19am
  Was a major plank in the NAZI platform also, you liberals are ignorant evil ****** that cause innocent people to suffer at every opportunity.
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- Twinspeedr
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:21am
  Guess again Dora. The DNC is about to make it a NEW plank. You’re the one making things up.
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:27pm
  Really SWAMPY?
  SO why were Homosexuals sent to concentration camps and force to wear pink triangles?
  I guess you got an A+ in Dumb.
  I love this site.
  Makes me feel so superior.
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- colt1860
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:36pm
  The destruction of the family, especially the traditional family, is pure Marxism all the way. These lefties intend on destroying inheritance laws, passed down traditions, private property, and anything that might resemble national independence. These lefties are useful idiots for the globalists who want a unified one world society. Their utopian goal is to expand and exalt the State, wherein children become the wards of the state, and parents are only designated gaurdians. Mark my words, if these lefties have their way with radicalizing marriage, they will come after parental rights next! Their agenda is no joke.
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gbfreak
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:43am
They love labels, so let’s give them a few – Christiphobes or Biggots..etc. If it weren’t for Hetrosexuals, there’d be not gays….think about it…lol
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- rickc34
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:52am
  Of course they will protest a Christian for his Biblical views on marriage. The Bibles views are Gods views, so do they hate Kurt or any other Christian or do they hate God. They hate God because Gods word points out that their life style is wrong, so they are truly the haters, haters of God and his word. It is their problem not any Christians problem. God is a respecter of no man, everyone must follow his rules. Their are individuals that call Christians haters and other vial trash talk but they themselves are truly full of hate. Pray for those that spitefully use you and say all kinds of things against you because they are haters of Christ.
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- copatriots
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:52am
  Ah….good point. They hate their mamas. Well, and their papas…..but that’s probably because they were absent in their lives.
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:35pm
  If 2 women want to marry, how does it affect YOUR marriage?
  I would think Rush’s 3 divorces would be more of an issue for you.
  
  What about Britney Spears 36 hour marriage?
  Be as bigoted as you like, don’t hide behind your bible and lie – to yourselves.
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- AvengerK
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:50pm
  It affects NORMAL marriage VERCIE.. because by acknowledging the homosexual delusion of believing they’re normal..then you sanction a delusion…at that point, you devalue NORMAL marriage.
  Clear champ?
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- Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 3:37pm
  AvengerK, you mention not sanctioning delusions. I agree. If we do anything that in any way supports religious rules, then we are sanctioning the delusion of god. You also mention by letting them drive the discussion, vocabulary and a bunch other blah blah blah. Many people feel the EXACT same way about religious people. Why don’t the bible thumpers stop shoving your delusions down our throats and indoctrinating our children into thinking that some man in the sky created and controls everything because it says so in a book written by men to control the masses and explain things science had not yet. Religion is the biggest mass delusion on the planet and you have no business forcing those delusions onto a society where the majority of people do not believe the same.
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- AvengerK
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:00pm
  LOL….really REALITY_BITES?
  So when over 55% of new HIV cases each year in this country are attributed to homosexuals who comprise less than 2% of the population..an over representation of 2750%…you want the entire country to accept the delusion of “normalcy” these aberrations of the human psyche are trying to sell us?
  Can you tell me what’s “normal” and sane and should be accepted about an over representation of 2750%?
  Get better material you idiot.
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- AvengerK
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:12pm
  When over 55% of new HIV cases in this country each year are attributed to homosexuals who comprise less than 2% of the population REALITY_BITES…that’s not a delusion..that’s cold hard fact. Putting an “OK” stamp on homosexual behaviour that fills hospital beds and cemetaries IS being delusional champ.
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john vincent
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:43am
I’ll take one Kirk Cameron over a thousand unprincipled souls. Another baseless charge of lunacy: hate speech?? where? when? how?

Here is a man who has dared to live his life with integrity as HE sees fit, according to a God (can I say that?) who has laid out parameters for the people He created. Now then, is my speech hateful because I speak with absolute certainty? There is not one shred of evidence that Kirk hates any gays-he, and I, simply state a differing of opinion. It just so happens, some opinions are better than others.

If your positionj of decadence is so solid, why would you fear opposition? If something is true, it can withstand the most ferocious of assault. Kirk and friends will be standing long after all the arrows of attack and slander fall short, for truth is one solid anchor.

Ever read his books, or seen his films?? Show me pray tell, the hate. Go find another cause, you have nothing in Mr. Cameron.
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- AndYetItMoves
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:56am
  ‘Now then, is my speech hateful because I speak with absolute certainty?’
  
  No, your speech is idiotic because you speak with absolute certainty. The dumber you are, the more certain you are about what’s right and wrong.
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity_and_intelligence
  
  Be sure to read that one, maybe you‘ll understand where I’m coming from (and understand a bit better where you’re coming from).
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- john vincent
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:15am
  andy
  you will lose in this post 100% of the time. You are sending me to wikipedia for answers on a GOd issue? Now THAT is funny. Try to stay on topic andy. Where is the HATE that is allegedly coming from one Mr Cameron??? Please refer to the above post, seems u have something in common with Indy-
  The sting of sin has found its mark, and all u can do is accuse the messenger. Its like blaming the mailman because he delivered your bankruptcy notice. You will lose the argument with God every time.
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:33am
  Saw a poll recently where something like 60-70% of believers would still believe in their dogmatic faith even when presented with a rock solid fact that went against it. Meaning, if the bible said 1+2=5 and even though they were shown that 1+2 actually = 3…60-70% would still take it on faith that 1+2=5.
  
  John Vincent I think that was the point ANDYETITMOVES was trying to make…
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- CMDR6
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:53am
  Perception, the problem is not with facts, it is when the non-believeres cannot understand how something in the bible works so they discount the bible, as well as believers not understanding and not able refute the “wise guy”. Give me one “fact” that refutes the bible. Many people over the centuries have been trying to find fault with the word and I have yet to find a mistake. Today’s science, especially evolutionists want us to believe that 1+ a = x and that x represents their “desired/hoped for/faith without God” outcome, which is really not “fact” but theory. So give me JUST ONE FACT and where it refutes the bible. thanks
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- HowTruthHurts
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:57am
  @Andy:
  
  “No, your speech is idiotic because you speak with absolute certainty. The dumber you are, the more certain you are about what’s right and wrong. ”
  
  Are you CERTAIN about that?
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:05am
  CMDR
  
  Snakes and donkeys don’t talk…
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- CMDR6
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:23am
  Perception……OK, if this were a court of truth and facts, then you would have to present the fact that it did not happen. Yes, everyday snakes and donkeys do not talk. But is it so hard to believe that the one who created the world, and set it all in place can make one of His creatures do something outside of its “normal activity”, i.e. supernatural? It is a fact that snakes and donkeys cannot speak, BUT you cannot refute that they spoke unless you have proof that they did not (by God’s supernatural power). What you are presenting is your supposition based on your facts, you are not presenting evidence that it did not happen. And since you cannot explain it with your “pea brain” then it must not have happened! Again 1+ a = your non-belief in God
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- john vincent
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:25am
  doors
  a good baited comment!
  
  You have heard of Baalam? Question then is: did that happen??
  I would only add, which is easier to do:
  Paint a rainbow in mid air, or open a donkeys tongue?
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:46am
  Why is it up to me to prove that a donkey or snake didn’t talk? I have tons of proof that donkeys and snakes don’t talk…like the real world. The burden on proof is on you that they did. Plus, that is just a simple non fact from the bible…just thought I would have a little fun.
  
  http://freethought.mbdojo.com/biblical_problems.htm
  
  There are many ways you can find the errors in the bibles…the internet is a good tool…or just read Thomas Paine’s The Age of Reason.
  
  Extraoridinary claims demand extraordianary evidence…
  
  John…rainbows aren’t painted.
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- CMDR6
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:57am
  You cannot just say something did not happen because you cannot explain it! Yes, if you are going to refute the FACTs in the bible, then you have to present FACTS that refute that it did not happen! By faith in God, and His power of love, I believe that He caused the donkey to talk, that’s what it says. By faith in no-god, you CHOOSE to believe that it could not, but your no-god faith does not disprove that it happened. Your silly disbelief is laughable. Many men and women smarter than you could disbelieve better..come on, give me a REAL FACT that disproves the bible.
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- CMDR6
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:01pm
  I opened the link and began to read and will finish later..BUT the first page was full of “how could” type of statements. Again, a lack of understanding, and a lack of the full knowledge of how something works does not disprove that it works. And none of it makes sense, nor carries any wieghgt if one CHOOSES to disbelieve that there is a loving and soveriegn God!
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:08pm
  Did you click on the link?
  
  Tell me one fact that disproves the claims made in Homer’s The Odyssey…or The epic of gilgamesh
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:14pm
  There are plenty of contradictions and inconsistencies in the bible…if you don’t want to know it, then there is nothing I can do about that.
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- john vincent
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:47pm
  doors-
  u are at a supreme disadvantage-
  there have been myriads of -‘inconsistencies’ explained to an honest seeker; impossible to detail here-
  I have a list of my own which, when looked for diligently, all is clear-
  
  all the internet does is magnifies the doubt-
  
  as to contradictions,
  not a one- again, maybe on the surface, ‘but errors on the surface flow, he who looks for gold, must look below…’
  
  Couldnt very well be God’s word if there were mistakes now, could it?? Many a mans reputation has been ruined, as he tried to find a defect! Donkeys talking??? Seems more logical since the donkeys in the white house dont make sense!
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:17pm
  Well at least we can agree on the asses in the white house
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- CMDR6
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:40pm
  ok, you got that right! we can stand together on that!!
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- SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 5:11pm
  @ DOORS….I am very interested when you say there are many contradictions within the bible. Please elaborate more for me. I would very much like to discuss this. All this other talk about intelligence and what not is really nonsensical rhetoric that is immaterial to whether or not the bible is accurate in its accounts and reflection of God or not. I am Christian and I am also a surgeon, am I unintelligent? If I am or if I am not it really has no bearing upon factual evidence or reality does it? So if you wouldn’t mind just supplying me with your absolute best contradiction you can muster I would very much like to see it. BTW the percentage you gave about people sticking with their faith regardless of evidence really is a biased question to begin with because the presupposition is that faith is unreasonable. It is an illogical question based upon a pressumptous conclusion. Better to ask the logical question, what evidence would it take to convince you God does not exist or the bible is false. Just like I would ask you as a nonbeliever what evidence it would take to convince you God does exist. Thank you ahead DOORS……
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- SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:00pm
  @ DOORS….The following are a list of cities discovered by archeology that the bible describes: Arad, Bethel, Capernaum, Chorazin, Dan, Ephesus, Gaza, Gezer, Hazor, Hesbon, Jericho, Jappa, Nineveh, Shechem, and Susa. This is not an exhaustive list but a sample. Keep in mind archeology has NEVER found anything to contradict the bibles accounts form the OT. In fact the bible has demonstrated such accuracy in its accounts of ancient history and locations that many archeologists use it as a reference tool. As each new discovery is made it only further strengthens the bibles credible including matters that could no longer be proven by direct evidence. Keep in mind many of these discoveries have silenced critics who initially thought the bible to be laughable and unreliable when describing some of these events and locations. Thank you….
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- Dorugremon
  Posted on August 1, 2012 at 3:53pm
  John Vincent:
  
  “Another baseless charge of lunacy: hate speech?? where? when? how?”
  
  This is what I call a “thought stopper”. The far left uses them all the time. It’s not so much that they believe Cameron to be speaking hatefully, they want him to either shut up and stop his dissenting from the radical agenda, or to get you to stop listening to him.
  
  “Now then, is my speech hateful because I speak with absolute certainty?”
  
  I’d say that makes you unreasonable, but that’s a horse of a different color.
  
  “If your position of decadence is so solid, why would you fear opposition? If something is true, it can withstand the most ferocious of assault. Kirk and friends will be standing long after all the arrows of attack and slander fall short, for truth is one solid anchor”.
  
  Leftists fear opposition because they know their theories have been tried and have failed. They lie, misrepresent, misdirect, prevaricate because they know that “We the People” won’t support them. And, no, the issue really isn’t the “decadence”. These radicals are using the LGBT community to advance their own agenda: “heighten the contradictions” (Trotsky) and destroy family (Marx). Since family are those people who take you in when no one else will, strong families lessen dependence on the State, and Stateist authoritarians don’t like that.
  
  I know a lot of LGBTs who resent being used by these radicals.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:42am
So much for Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Speech, and any semblance of the old phrase “Live and let live.” Christians express themselves, and the militant gays and so called supporters scream like banshees that it is hate. Now, just where is the hate coming from?
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- Gonzo
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:53am
  R.J., I never dreamed the day would come that traditional marriage would need defending. Nor would I have believed that the people defending it would be demonized like they are. We have sunk to a new low in America.
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- DOra Glasberg
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:57am
  He is not entitled to prevent others from worshipping as they see fit.
  We are not all Christians. Keep your beliefs out of other folks civil rights.
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- CMDR6
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:12am
  Dora, who is stopping anyone from being gay and in “love”? God instituted marriage as one man and one woman, so if two men want to be together (yuck) or two women want to be together, then go for it! BUT don’t call it marriage. In a worldly way, even BMW would sue and stop Honda if Honda started putting the BMW symbol on their car. And even if Honda could get away with it, it would still be a Honda with a BMW hood ornament, it would not be a BMW. So stop trying to make a homosexual union into a marriage….it can NEVER be one. Lastly, their issue is a very silly paradox anyway….i.e. “let me be my own person/individual, ……just like you”, think about it….
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- Chet Hempstead
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:13pm
  Free speech works both ways. When Mr. Cameron speaks, others are allowed to speak back.
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- HYPNOTOAD
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 1:58pm
  To Dumb Dora: Keep you hate filled rants to yourself. You have no right to cram your God hating faith on us. Keep your religion of hate to your sad pathetic self.
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- phillyatheist
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:35pm
  i fail to see anything hateful about DORA’s comment. otoh, i see a lot of hate from you, HYPNOTOAD.
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aceboogie
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:40am
lgbtkx, or whatever you’re calling yourselves these days, stop whining because not everyone accepts what you do…
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watersRpeople
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:40am
Who decides who gets married? Is it actually people? Or do the labels people create decide who gets married? Meanwhile the rivers flow beneath your feet, and you can not see. And the wicked bunch decide to change the labels to further confound. Who is it who plows the field of God, if you have eyes that want to see it is clear to see. She likes the same songs as me, but are you really a marriage to be? If you had eyes to see then you would know the Lord say who a marriage will be. And you will pass a stranger on the street with hearts dancing in unison, surely it’s no stranger you see, because God brought to you your wife. People make everything more difficult in life.
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Right wing nut job
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:39am
Q: What is the first symptom of AIDS?

A: A pounding sensation in you a$$!
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bsnrn98
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:39am
God calls homosexuality an abomination. To say the least,God does not like their choice in sin. Straight condemnation is nothing compared to The Almighty God’s at judgment day.
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- Locked
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:10am
  “God calls homosexuality an abomination.”
  
  Technically, He calls it toevah (or to’evah), which is closer to “taboo” or “ritualistically unclean for Jews.” For example, eating shellfish is toevah as well (although we discount this in the NT); and remarriage after divorce is toevah in Deuteronomy 24:4 (which Jesus reiterates, but most Christians seem to ignore).
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- DOra Glasberg
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:58am
  Can Athiests be homosexual?
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- HowTruthHurts
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:12am
  @Locked
  
  Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
  
  Deuteronomy 24:4 Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.
  
  In both passages “abomination” derives from the Hebrew word “tow`ebah” which definition is below:
  
  08441 // hbewt // tow`ebah // to-ay-baw’ // or
  // hbet // to`ebah // to-ay-baw’ //
  
  act part of 08581 ; TWOT – 2530a; n f
  
  AV – abomination 113, abominable thing 2, abominable 2; 117
  
  1) a disgusting thing, abomination, abominable
  1a) in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed marriages)
  1b) in ethical sense (of wickedness etc)
  
  Homosexuals and other anti-Christs have been lying to naive Christians claiming that the sins God hates are merely “not advised”. That is a lie from Satan. The Holy Spirit despises adultery, fornication, homosexuality, bestiality, and all sexual immorality.
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- Locked
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:26am
  @Howtruthhurts
  
  Your definition says it: it’s in a ritualistic sense. The “abomination” you are using is not what we would think of as an abomination in common terms today (which makes sense, as the definition you quoted, knowingly or not, is from a 1906 Hebrew translation guide).
  
  Nowhere did I claim it‘s not against God’s will; but it is not proper to translate it as “abomination” when that carries a sentiment different from that of the Hebrew word. The truth is, toevah doesn‘t have a straight translation into English because we don’t have a word that embodies its concept. I’ve heard some folks liken it to radioactive: something you want to stay far away from lest it dirty you.
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- HowTruthHurts
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:50am
  @Locked
  
  (quoting my previous post)]
  1) a disgusting thing, abomination, abominable
  1a) in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed marriages)
  1b) in ethical sense (of wickedness etc)
  
  It is BOTH in a ritual and ethical sense an abomination. You read only what you wanted to. Everything about the definition I posted indicates it means “abomination”. Yet somehow you read “not abomination just something not too good”. Homosexuality is indeed an abomination. It was an abomination by definition 5k years ago and it’s one today.
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- HowTruthHurts
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:57am
  @Locked
  
  Here is where you and others falter. The word tow`ebah does indeed mean “abomination” and “something to stay away from”. Jehovah always warned that sin is like a plague that spreads. Our carnal flesh enjoys sin and is easily inspired to mimic and emulate sin. Through time, sinners who want to manipulate the scriptures to justify their sins, have deceived many that tow`ebah means “prefer to keep away from”. When in reality tow`ebah means “it is an abomination therefore keep away from”
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- Locked
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:03pm
  @How
  
  “It is BOTH in a ritual and ethical sense an abomination. You read only what you wanted to. Everything about the definition I posted indicates it means “abomination”. Yet somehow you read “not abomination just something not too good”. Homosexuality is indeed an abomination. It was an abomination by definition 5k years ago and it’s one today.”
  
  And again, no it is not. A six-legged baby could be called an abomination. Would you say that there is a ritual component to it? That it represented idolatry? Of course not. That is why abomination is a false definition: English does not hold a single word for the concept. Calling toevah “an abomination” ignores the full scope of it, just as calling it only ritualistically unclean ignores the ethical aspect of it.
  
  Honestly, it should be left as toevah and annotated to get the full scope, as there’s no proper word for it in English.
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- HowTruthHurts
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:18pm
  Miriam Webster definition of “abomination”
  
  (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/abomination)
  
  1 : something abominable
  2 : extreme disgust and hatred : loathing
  
  This is EXACTLY what tow`ebah means in the above mentioned passages. Now if people today don’t know what “abomination” means and want to use it in reference to a deformed child, that is their fault. I do not apologize for the ignorance of others. Homosexuality is an abomination. Homosexuality should be hated and loathed.
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- Locked
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:47pm
  @How
  
  “1 : something abominable
  2 : extreme disgust and hatred : loathing”
  
  Notice that there is no ritual component in the definition? Hence why it is not a good translation.
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- HowTruthHurts
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 1:01pm
  @Locked
  
  I’ve explained this again and again, tow`ebah means abomination in both a ritual AND ethical sense. Thus, there doesn’t have to be a ritual component. tow`ebah means abomination in an ethical sense as well. Homosexuality is an abomination. Homosexuality is to be hated and loathed.
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- HowTruthHurts
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 1:11pm
  @Locked
  
  08441 // hbewt // tow`ebah // to-ay-baw’ // or
  // hbet // to`ebah // to-ay-baw’ //
  
  act part of 08581 ; TWOT – 2530a; n f
  
  AV – abomination 113, abominable thing 2, abominable 2; 117
  
  1) a disgusting thing, abomination, abominable
  1a) in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed marriages)
  1b) in ethical sense (of wickedness etc)
  
  Notice the “1a” & “1b”. These are breaking-down the application of “1”. Thus tow`ebah means “abomination” BOTH & WEATHER ritually or ethically. tow`ebah is NOT limited to ritual.
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- Locked
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 1:51pm
  @How
  
  “I’ve explained this again and again, tow`ebah means abomination in both a ritual AND ethical sense. Thus, there doesn’t have to be a ritual component. ”
  
  If, as you say, it “means abomination in both a ritual AND ethical sense”, it follows that it MUST have a ritual component to it. But looking at your correct, I see you edit yourself and say it can be either/or; however, that doesn’t change that abomination does not describe the concept of toevah, which again, almost always relates to rituals, concerns cleanliness, or warns away from idolatry. The heart of toevah is the concept of holding different standards than other cultures. This is shown in Genesis 46:34, when shepherds are called toevah to the Egyptians.
  
  Again, not making a judgment on the passage itself; just pointing out that “abomination” is not a comprehensive definition accounting for the cultural and ritual undertones for toevah. It’s the equivalent of saying German Schadenfreude means sadism. English simply doesn’t have a single word to encompass the idea of “pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others,” either. And other terms like taboo more closely describe the actual usage of the word toevah.
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- HowTruthHurts
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 3:06pm
  @Locked
  
  Here is the flaw with your argument. Jehovah used the term tow`ebah. Jehovah NEVER said that he used this term in reference to rituals. Moses also never claimed to use this term in reverence to rituals. Neither Jehovah nor any of His servants ever stated that any law existed simply and solely to be different. This concept of associating tow`ebah.with ritual is a man-made concept. Jehovah never dictated this.
  
  Now, because the Jews were to be holy though the other nations remained un-holy, the Jews would indeed be different as a result. Nonetheless, the basis of the commandments were to abstain from what Jehovah hated and to cling to what Jehovah loved. Not simply for ritual. Not simply to be opposite. Think about it, the other nations breathed, should the Jews then abstain from breathing? No, because the basis of the commandments were to please Jehovah not to simply be different.
  
  In fact, the Jews (through extensive time) were supposed to be a beacon to all nations. Slowly converting all nations to the same law and holiness. Thus ALL nations would be as the Jews. Indicating that Jehovah never wanted the Jews to be different just for the sake of it, but because the other nations were virtually the exact opposite of holy.
  
  The sum of my long-winded explanation being, Jehovah called man-sleeping-with-man tow`ebah (something he hated and loathed) because HE hated it. Not just because other nations were doing it.
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- Locked
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 3:21pm
  @How
  
  “Jehovah NEVER said that he used this term in reference to rituals. Moses also never claimed to use this term in reverence to rituals.”
  
  I don’t see this as a flaw in my argument at all, but rather the basis that there is any argument in the first place. The main issue is that there is IS no clear definition of toevah; it’s never laid out that “this is what it means.” Instead, we are simply told of over one hundred examples of toevah, including those NOT done by the Hebrews (as before, the Egyptians). This shows that it is culturally based, no?
  
  “In fact, the Jews (through extensive time) were supposed to be a beacon to all nations. Slowly converting all nations to the same law and holiness. Thus ALL nations would be as the Jews.”
  
  As the old covenant has been changed with the death of Christ, I’d say this is not true. All nations will not come to know Christ; in fact, we have Revelation to look forward to!
  
  “Jehovah called man-sleeping-with-man tow`ebah (something he hated and loathed) because HE hated it. Not just because other nations were doing it.”
  
  1. Technically man-lying-with-man, not sleeping.
  2. Again we see a difference in toebah and other words (like zimmah, which is sin). That’s a whole other debate, but if God hates all toebah, and shepherds are toebah to Egyptians, does God hate shepherds? Toebah is a specifically culture-based prohibition, not a blanket term for sin (which is applicable to everyone).
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- HowTruthHurts
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 3:54pm
  1) ” it’s never laid out that “this is what it means.” Instead, we are simply told of over one hundred examples of toevah, including those NOT done by the Hebrews (as before, the Egyptians). This shows that it is culturally based, no?”
  
  Incorrect, we are told we don‘t know by sinners who don’t like the implications. It‘s Satan’s oldest trick. Tell everyone “they cannot be certain because the Bible is old.”
  
  2) “As the old covenant has been changed with the death of Christ, I’d say this is not true. All nations will not come to know Christ; in fact, we have Revelation to look forward to!”
  
  Though I too look forward to the 2nd coming of Christ, my 1st statement said the Jews were “supposed” to. They failed. We all failed. Thus Christ had to be Holy for us. God never intends for us to fail, He is only prepared for when we do.
  
  3) Again we see a difference in toebah and other words (like zimmah, which is sin). That’s a whole other debate, but if God hates all toebah, and shepherds are toebah to Egyptians, does God hate shepherds? Toebah is a specifically culture-based prohibition, not a blanket term for sin (which is applicable to everyone).
  
  What the Egyptians considered toebah is irrelevant. The Egyptians are not Jehovah. Though the term toebah in and of itself does not indicate sin, it CERTAINLY does when it proceeds from Jehovah’s mouth. When Jehovah says something is an “abomination” or “taboo” it is indeed seen. No abomi
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:39pm
  There is no god.
  So that’s a fairy tale.
  MEN wrote that fairy tale book and called it the bible.
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- HowTruthHurts
  Posted on August 1, 2012 at 9:01am
  There is indeed GOD.
  And the Bible is no fairytale.
  The inspiration of God dictated that truth we call the bible.
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contkmi
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:38am
So, where is the outrage against Mudslimes? Or would that not be PC? Double standard much?
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randy
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:37am
Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me…..
Unless of course, if you’re gay……
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Detroit paperboy
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:37am
Remember when gays just wanted to be left alone ? Now it’s in your face, and you better agree with us or else, and they sure do have a lot of time to protest…..strange.
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DrunkGOP_Hack
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:35am
Leviticus 18:22
King James Version (KJV)
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Gee, let me see if I can understand what God’s words mean.

YOU CAN’T DO IT FOR TWO REASONS:

1. IT’S A SIN!
2. YOU CAN’T PROCREATE WITH TWO DADS!
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- TEXASGRANNY73
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:19am
  Matthew 7 verse :1 “Do not judge lest ye be judged. “For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.” Suggest reading the entire sermon on the mountain as all are Jesus words out of the New Testament as compared to the Old Testament which is mostly historical and prophecies of the coming King. Just my opinion of course for I am glad to see Kirk Cameron is a Christian but the argument now is about gay marriage. For myself, I will not judge my brothers or sisters souls and I do not believe it is Cameron’s intent. All concerned have the first amendment free speech. I refuse to hate with mine.
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- DrunkGOP_Hack
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:36am
  Well I guess since I sleep with my wife, I won’t be judge for being gay.
  
  And you make a great point as to why and what the whole cry for the GLT community is all about.
  
  THEY WANT TO RE-WRITE THE BIBLE. THEY WANT TO TWIST IT SO THEY FIT IN TO THE NORM.
  
  Look when they can procreate then I will be all in.
  
  And let me ask this, when does it all end.
  
  You have transgender men that want to be women so they can be lesbians and vice versa with some ladies wanting to be men to love women?
  
  Where does it end?
  
  Then we’ll have NAMBLA wanting to marry little boys?
  
  So Granny answer me these questions that go against the teaching of God and the bible and I will sign on.
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- TEXASGRANNY73
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:37am
  Matthew 5:verse 27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY’; but I say to you, that everyone who looks on a woman to lust for her has committed adultery with her already in his heart. add verse 31 “And it was said, WHOEVER DIVORCES HIS WIFE, LET HIM GIVE HER A CERTIFICATE OF DISMISSAL’; but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the cause of chastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. So————–shall we all just move to an Arab country and take all the gays and divorced people and hand them over? Are not all sins the same up to dotting the i ? @Co-patriot We don’t live in Sodom and Gomorrah; we live in America land of the Constitution. While we‘re at it though let us grab thieves overweight people gossips gee we could do God’s job for him, hmm?
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- TEXASGRANNY73
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:07pm
  DrunkGop-Hack OK, but first let me say 2 things. 1. I don‘t have time to stay the course on the Blaze all day and probably won’t respond again. 2. What I quoted is from Jesus own words and those sent to us by God who gave all of us a second chance. All of us. Why? I don‘t know because it sure seems like we don’t deserve it. You asked because you sleep with your wife are you gay? Is that right? How would I know. I’m not in your bedroom, ok? Which is just my point that I am not your judge nor should the government be there in my opinion. My view on gay marriage is absolutely not. It may happen, it may not. Gays hurt their own cause, however we live in AMERICA land of the Constitution. They have a voice. I ask you this question, ok? Did Jesus come for our souls or our cold dead bodies which turn into dust? Which? Another question: Do all of us have souls or just a few perfect creatures? Do all of us sin and where does sin originate? Our minds or our bodies?
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- TEXASGRANNY73
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:27pm
  Whoops, I forgot to answer about transgender and Nambla and where does it all stop? I can‘t account for trans anything not in that person’s mind but the Nambla is different and the punishment is what a court of law is for and should be severe. An innocent child’s soul is already protected by God. Really, I am outta here, gotta get busy. Idle hands, you know.
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- westtitus
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 1:44pm
  Romans 1:24-27 says “Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the TRUTH about God for a LIE and worshiped and serverd the creature rather than the CREATOR, who is blessed forever. Amen. For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for un-natural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error”. Verse 32 “Though they know God’s decree that those who do such things deserve to die, they not only do them but approved those who practice them. 2:15 “They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse or perhaps excuse them on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus”. God has written on their hearts and in their conscience what is right and wrong so they have no excuse for what they know is wrong but have to go around justifing their actions and crying that they are being “judged” by others. No one is judging them, they have alreday judged themselves by their actions. When we see our pets of the same sex doing these things we know it is wrong and put a stop to it so why are they no smarter than a dog?
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:31pm
  The bible has no bearing in this discussion.
  You folks will never understand that.
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biohazard23
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:35am
Love those professionally pre-made signs which definitely scream “grassroots”….

“…your words hurt…” Oh, please. Grow up!! These gay “activists” are really becoming quite tiresome. They’re starting to hallucinate about this so-called homophobia. They‘re seeing things that aren’t there. Get over yourselves already. Jeez….
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- copatriots
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:58am
  Mornin’ Girl! True that. We went from having their sin shoved in our face at every opportunity to now having to legitimize their “union”. Nudge, nudge.
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cessna152
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:31am
Hurtful? WTF are you talking about? How about when “the gay agenda” was forced down the throats of our third graders behind our backs? I politely questioned as to why and the fireatorm started. I was threatened by the gay community, sent hate mail, send hate email and threats. Shunned by the school system, bank account compromised, yelled at, demonized, slandered and threatened! Ya’ know what? It made me fight harder for what I believed in.. and God saw us through it all.

One question I want to ask. Why do you despise the only group of people that would help you? Why do you support this President especially since he supports Hamas and groups that KILL gays. Keep biting the hand that “feeds” you. You‘ll end up persecuted by the very groups that you support and you’ll come running to the Christians begging for help.
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- whatthecrazy
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:53am
  Sorry you went through that Cessna but you stood strong and prevailed and i totally agree with your post,they will learn the hard way.
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Steve28
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:30am
No! You must accept GLBT just like anyone else and give them rights of marriage or you are a hater. So, what’s next? Funny how all these minority groups including atheist are so loud during this administration. I guess they feel empowered to shove change down your thoat. I think it will not only be politically incorrect, but soon consider part of the hate laws not to agree with GLBT marriage. I can see them hauling off 90 year old Truest Cathy and his son Dan along with anyone else that voices their beliefs. Just give Obama one more term that’s all he needs to finish his job, but by then he will get term limits removed too.
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- phillyatheist
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:37pm
  “You must accept GLBT just like anyone else”
  
  how sad that people wish for every person to be accepted into society. Jesus would have cried if he knew this would happen. right?
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T-2
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:29am
“words are hurtful”. For a group of guys that can take it in the exit, they sure are sensitive.
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- Midwestgirl1116
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:44am
  Now that made me laugh!
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- adouglass1
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 4:15pm
  ouch now that was funny and change I can believe in…lol. That was awesome as they say in the WWE lol. Screw all the politically correct crap look where it has gotten us up is down down is up etc etc. The fudgepackers used to like to hide now they are out in open and its disgusting.
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stopprintn
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:28am
Think I’ll order five more copies of Monumental, It was a pleasure to watch.
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melbach
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:27am
It is shameful that anyone with a traditional and Biblical view of marriage is continuously vilified these days. Prayers are with you, Kirk Cameron.
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- blOWS
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:43am
  Ditto – Keep it up Kirk, you have support.
  
  In peace, on this great feast day of St. Ignatius of Loyola
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artfromtex
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:22am
I wonder if these people realize that they are not protesting Kirk Cameron, but actually protesting against the word of God?

If the bible says it’s a sin to eat an apple and you call an apple-eating wrong, you are not “hating”.

It’s time to call the homosexual movement what it really is and that is a thinly-veiled anti-Christian movement. The harder they press, the more this becomes clear.

Look at Dan Savage’s remarks about the bible and the way he treated those Christian kids. Look at the Chick-Fil-A umbroglio and now this.

I think the picture of the protesters standing in front of a church holding signs is probably the most truthful image in regard to the heart of this issue.
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- grannyjojo
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:37am
  I think you hit the nail on the head. :) And BTW, I work with several “lesbian” women and although they are in a very professional area they are very vocal in their “small talk”. In other words, there is no way you can NOT tell they are “lesbians”. They make it very very clear, ALLLLL the time. But hey, I make it very very clear that “I” am a Christian so they leave me alone….or ignore me would be the better word for it. “Every knee ”will bow and every tongue confess”
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- Chet Hempstead
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:09pm
  grannyjojo
  Not me, lady. In the unlikely event that God actually turns out to be the bigoted bully that you think He is, I ain’t bending no damn knee to Him, and my tongue won’t confess anything except what I think of Him.
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- The_Doors_Of_Perception
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:35pm
  amen
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copatriots
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:22am
I always love how people who knowingly mock and ignore God’s word are experts on knowing what God calls Christians to stand for.

Prayers and blessings to Kirk and his family.
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- copatriots
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:32am
  And what Christians should stand against.
  
  For the resident trolls…..a culture accepting homosexuality didn’t end so well for Sodom and Gomorrah. Strange how the Bible tells us what is right and wrong yet you all want to repeat the same mistakes over and over.
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- biohazard23
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:36am
  Amen!!
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bdandsl
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:21am
Not agreeing with is not the same as hate. These people have to accept that not all are going to agree with their choices and that is ok.
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Tri-ox
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:20am
Yawn – obama’s gay terrorists are the most hate-filled people in America.
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- Victory2012
  Posted on August 1, 2012 at 3:34pm
  How true that is! They are completely intolerant, obnoxious and full of hate. No view but our view, it is an outrageously INTOLERANT hate group. They accuse everyone else of what they do because they have been turned over to a reprobate mind.
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GoodCook
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:17am
Hmmm…. Pre-Printed protest signs. Did they have the union label on them?
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- copatriots
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:23am
  Not only a GoodCook but also a GoodObserver. :-)
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- starman70
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:33am
  WOW!! Didn’t really notice that. Good observation!
  
  Unfortunately, these people haven’t read their Bible. They also don’t think that everybody has a GOD given right to express their views. They think that only THEIR views are the ones that count. Go ahead and demonstrate, 94% of Americans don’t agree with you.
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:22pm
  WHat is that relative too? Th epre printe thing?
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