Honor Killings Prompt Debate in Canada on Assimilating Immigrants
- Posted on December 25, 2011 at 5:15pm by
Christopher Santarelli
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(AP) On a summer morning in 2009, in canal locks east of Toronto, police made a grisly discovery: In a submerged Nissan car were the bodies of three teenage sisters and a 52-year-old woman.
A joyride gone tragically wrong, claimed the father, Mohammad Shafia, 58, who reported the disappearance. An “honor killing,” prosecutors allege. A murder trial is under way, heating up a national debate about how to better absorb immigrants into the Canadian cultural mainstream.
The prosecution accuses Afghan-born Shafia, his wife, and their 20-year-old son of killing the daughters because they dishonored the family by defying its disciplinarian rules on dress, dating, socializing and going online. The older victim was Shafia’s first wife, Rona Amir Mohammad, who was living with him and his second wife, Tooba Mohammad Yahya, 41, in Montreal. It was a polygamous relationship, the court has been told, and if revealed, could have resulted in their deportation.
The parents and son, Hamed, have pleaded not guilty to four counts of murder.
The family had left Afghanistan in 1992 and lived in Pakistan, Australia and Dubai before settling in Canada in 2007. Shafia, a wealthy businessman, married Yahya because his first wife could not have children. The second marriage produced seven children.
The months leading up to the deaths were not happy ones in the Shafia household, the court has heard. Zainab, the oldest at 19, was forbidden to attend school for a year because she had a young Pakistani-Canadian boyfriend, and she fled to a shelter, terrified of her father, the court was told.
The jury heard testimony that Zainab’s sisters, Sahar, 17, and Geeti, 13, were hounded and trailed by their brothers because the parents suspected them of dating boys; that Sahar repeatedly said her father would kill her if he found out she had a boyfriend; that she had bruises on her arms; that Mohammad, the first wife who was helping to raise the children, also was brutally treated.
Zainab ran away from home for a couple of weeks and her sisters contacted authorities, saying they wanted to be removed from the home because of violence and their father’s strict parenting, the prosecution said.
Prosecutor Laurie Lacelle presented wire taps and cell phone records from the Shafia family in court. In one phone conversation, the father says his daughters “betrayed us immensely.”
Fazil Javad, Shafia’s brother-in-law, said Shafia tried to enlist him in a plan to drown Zainab.
“Even if they hoist me up to the gallows, nothing is more dear to me than my honor. There is nothing more valuable than our honor,” Lacelle quoted Shafia as saying in an intercept transcript.
Taking the stand and speaking in his native Dari through an interpreter, Shafia portrayed himself as a loving father with his daughters’ best interests at heart. He repeated his contention that the family members were returning from a Niagara Falls holiday, were in two cars, and were overnighting at a motel when Zainab took one of the cars.
The daughters met an accidental but “rightful” death for their disobedience, he said.
“You believe there’s no value in life without honor, don’t you?” asked Lacelle in cross-examination.
“My honor is important to me,” Shafia replied. “But you can’t regain your honor with murder, respected lady, you must know that.
“I’m a strict Muslim, but I’m not a killer.”
Other relatives — two of the children and a brother-in-law of Shafia — testified in support of the joyride scenario and portrayed the family as loving and caring.
Zainab Shafia (Court Exhibit)
The trial then adjourned for the holidays and will resume on Jan. 9.
Canada takes in 250,000 immigrants a year, more per capita than anywhere save Australia, and in recent years a number of so-called honor killings have prompted debate about absorbing immigrants into the mainstream and dealing with culture clashes between immigrant parents and their children. Even before the trial, Rona Ambrose, the women’s affairs minister, had said the federal government was considering making such killings a separate category in the criminal code.
Her office has not replied to recent questions about whether the change is going through, and the debate continues about the larger issues the Shafia case has raised about assimilating immigrants.
More than 80 Canadian Muslim organizations, imams and community leaders have signed a call for action against “the reality of domestic violence within our own communities, compounded by abhorrent and yet persistent pre-Islamic practices rooted in the misguided notion of restoring family honor.”
On the other hand, statistically, nonimmigrant Canadians have a higher rate of murdering spouses and children, in some instances, also over family dishonor. Jeffrey Reitz, a sociology professor at the University of Toronto who specializes in immigration issues, warns against using the term honor killings and equating it with any specific culture.
Sahar Shafia (Court Exhibit)
“If you label it an honor killing, the tendency is to say, ‘Oh, what a terrible culture that is,’ and the problem (of domestic violence) stems across cultural groups,” he said.
The United Nations reports 5,000 females a year are victims of honor killings around the world. In Canada, social worker Aruna Papp says she has counted 15 cases since 2002, while psychiatrist Amin Muhammad, commissioned to write a report for the government about honor killings in Canada, predicts there will be more as immigrant communities grow, bringing in some newcomers with militant cultural beliefs.
“Immigrants who come here can’t bring their own mindsets with them. They can’t practice their own cultural ideologies if they go against the grain,” he said.
The government must do more, and offer services that are more visible and accessible, especially to non-English-speakers, he said.
Tarek Fatah, the Pakistani-born founder of the Muslim Canadian Congress, is a fierce opponent of Islamic militancy. He says it is shocking that honor killings are happening in Canada, calling them “a slap in the face of our fundamental value of what it is to be a human being.”
Papp, the social worker who wrote a report on honor killings for the Frontier Centre for Public Policy, a privately funded conservative think tank, worries that domestic violence rooted in family honor has spread to second-generation families. She argues for tougher background checks on would-be immigrants, as well as teaching immigrants Canadian rights and values.
Geeti Shafia (Court Exhibit)
Papp, who is of Indian descent, speaks from experience. “I came here when I was 21, with a third-grade education. I had children when I was young. I didn’t know how to properly parent,” she said. “I did and said things I didn’t know at the time were wrong, things my parents did and said to me growing up that were acceptable within the Indian culture. It’s a learning process. Parents, especially immigrant parents, need to be taught parenting skills and what’s acceptable behavior here.”
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Comments (102)
frank
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 8:52pmCongress and the Senate need to answer all of this. What are we going to do about this islamist?
Report Post »chips1
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 10:49pmHere comes another Czar.
Report Post »redbone007
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 11:35pmHmmm… what…. He is a strict Muslim, but I’m not a killer. Oh, he is not a killer if he kill to protect his honor.
Report Post »KeystoneState
Posted on December 26, 2011 at 5:33amMan, I wish I could be dictator of America for like just a week, I would construct the worlds largest Human Catapults just for starters!
Report Post »qzak491
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 12:27amredbone007
These people have no honor to protect. I think the Canadian gov should kill them to protect it’s honor.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 10:22amClaiming to divest ones self and the (popular) culture of accountability for shifts in cultural trends due to “touchy feely huggy kissy” “can’t we all just get along“ weak social moral fiber as we seek the lowest common denominator for civilized society is a diametrically opposed strategy for ”co-existence”.
And people who don’t recognize this fundamental truth are in denial, and should have studied a bit more about history, cultures and human nature.
Evil does not explain its motives or itself to those it uses as tools for its work.
God, explains His motives for His love and His wants for man in great detail. And allows man to make up his own mind based on those fundamental Truths. Think about it.
Report Post »Nigel2
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 8:51pmBut naturally this should be overlooked when it comes to picking sides in the Israeli/Palestinian debate
Report Post »NOBAMA201258
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 9:24pmWhere are the so-called moderate ******* to voice their outrage over these senseless murders? Oh yeah they don’t exist! How about N.O.W.? Oh right,they are too busy making sure the killing of millions of BABIES are being killed “legally”! Can you imagine what the Creator must be thinking about us? God must be truly slow to anger but I bet that’s about to change soon! I hope you know-it-all atheists see the light before it is too late,but if not tough ****! MERRY CHRISTMAS
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 10:39pmThey dont have a problem with immigrants, they have a problem with 7th century , inbred , muslim immigrants…..
Report Post »sndrman
Posted on December 26, 2011 at 6:58pmnobama wonder where is gloria allred? usually she comes runnig in these kinda situtations. oh yea thie would be against liberal agenda thatb. HUSSAIN o. is putting forth tell us that islam is a religion of piece blowing people up to pieces……onlt Christianinty is a true religion of PEACE
Report Post »frank
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 8:47pmWhat is wrong with these muslims?
Report Post »Sheree43
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 11:41pmThey belong to a demonic Religion of hate inspired by the devil …
Report Post »intimidation, manipulation & control. The Holy Bible in thee Book of
Samual calls this witchcraft. If every muslim were to follow the
Koran AS WRITTEN THERE WOULD BE DEAD BODIES EVERYWHERE
AS IT INSTRUCTS THEM TO KILL THE ‘INFIDEL’ – THAT IS ANYBODY
THAT ISN’T A MUSLIM – THIS MEANS YOU! – …. do you ‘get’ it now.
UrbanCombatSurvivor
Posted on December 26, 2011 at 1:19amAccord to their Koran, nothing is wrong with them. They have a brutal culture, which spawned a brutal religion. That religion advocates extreme violence in forcing your will onto others.
Think of it as a religious version of collectivism, and it might be easier to understand. Collectivists and Zealots believe that you are unintelligent or corrupt beyond the ability of individual determination.
Report Post »qzak491
Posted on December 27, 2011 at 12:22amUrbanCombatSurvivor
This sounds like the Democratic National Committee.
Report Post »frank
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 8:46pmThe koran should be baned in America.
Report Post »audiemurphy
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 8:25pmthe Muslim religion should be banned PERIOD! in our culture it is contrary to. our laws of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. As Canadians we have lived in the shadow of the US and owe our freedoms to the wisdom and perseverance of the US founding fathers! Canadians who ignorantly criticise the US do it so ignorant of the facts and out of spite due to the bankrupt culture Canadian progressives have installed in our schools , courts, and politics!
Report Post »I stand with the patriotic US citizen who stands for the constitution and freedom based action rooted in belief of the almighty god who inspired the finding fathers to give us the freedoms we have enjoyed in North America for over 200 years!
Obama bin Laden will have you looking like Canada x Cuba if he gets another 4 years. God bless America and help us all if he wins a second term!
asybot12
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 10:55pmAll of you have to understand one thing Islam is NOT a religion it is a following of a prophet. He made a set of rules to be followed. Those rules are barbaric and have no basis in any society. Also this crime happened 2.5 years ago and just now shows up in the US news medias AND as usual after reading most of these post Half of you do not have a clue about immigration in Canada clean up your own first and then you can b.tch about ours and don’t forget who protects your northern air space (911 came from your own!). And thanks Audy I think there are many Canadians that think a lot like you regarding the USA.
Report Post »asybot12
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 11:34pmTo explain myself ,comment 1, congress and the senate should do something (in the US maybe),
Report Post »@Ares338. WE are actually a majority conservative country, yours is more
socialistic these days read Audie.
@mrmikejohnson: you are the problem, uninformed please
educate yourself.
ChristyJo0354
Posted on December 26, 2011 at 7:14amWell said!
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on December 26, 2011 at 11:03pm“air space (911 came from your own!)”
Factually incorrect, though it was an Al Qaeda’s Plan B.
Canadian immigration policies are being tightened up, though the process is still slow to my liking and sill a bit erratic due to lingering multi-culti ideological considerations. Mind you, I myself am an immigrant. Canada doesn’t have the huge problem with illegals like south of the border. In fact, illegal immigration equals deportation. Even if one is American–there were a few cases of American military men going AWOL and asking for political asylum. No luck, it ain‘t the 60’s.
It is a bit paradoxical to see the trends–while Canada is gradually moving away from socialism since mid 1990′s, the US is falling head over heels into it, at least so it seems. I hope there’s a cure.
Report Post »Dosrios
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 8:10pmMuslim men are cowards with incredible inferiority complexes.
With much to feel inferior about.
Report Post »NOBAMA201258
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 9:12pmI think they must have some penis envy issues among their many psychoses
Report Post »AB5r
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 9:42pmThey are emasculated because they aren’t even able to make their own decision about what religion to follow. They are forced to be Muslims whether they want to or not. Assuming that most of them know Muhammad was a fraud, as obvious as it is, they have to play along, act like they believe, jump through all the hoops. No wonder it makes them so crazy. If they decide to be a man and admit that they reject Muhammad and Islam, they will be killed. Very few people are willing to die for what they believe in. So their rage at being in this position manifests itself in the behavior we see worldwide from Muslims.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 11:30pm@dosrios
Report Post »Yeah, breakin up sucks, and the muslim men have pretty much outlawed heartbreak !!! Eef u dump me i weeell keeel u !!!!
Marengo Ohio Patriot
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 7:54pmmy woman has always minded me… dont need to muslim for that!!
Report Post »texasfireguy
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 8:32pmYou’re a douche Margie. So how do you “control” her?
Report Post »stormcrow53
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 8:53pmI suspect, ultra maroongo, that your “woman” is of a 4 legged species (that would be goat, sheep, dog, etc) as I am sure that would be the only distaff creatures that you could possibly entice and chain into blissful matrimony. Eschewing any salacious language, do tell me, oh Patriorc, when you mount your “woman” out in the barnyard do you find the stench and texture of the scat a hindrance or an enhancement? Or is it difficult to discern from your own surely odorous excretions? Is it a challenge for your limited cognitive abilities to force your will on a hareem of unruly and unsubmissive quadrupeds? I applaud your attempt at matrimonial diversity but must forewarn you that interspecies mating will not produce any offspring. There now, child, you see? Every cloud has some silver lining. At least the rest of humanity will not have to bear the cost of raising your progeny. You‘re not in Obama’s New Alternative Bizarro Military by any chance, are you?
Report Post »keaton
Posted on December 26, 2011 at 6:31amYour woman is a “palm sister”. That’s why “she” minds you!
Report Post »ares338
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 7:32pmIt’s kind of rare for Canada to have a debate on honor killings being the socialists they are!
Report Post »ZengaPA65
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 7:55pmAt least they don’t have a military dictatorship run by a communist Islamic illegal immigrant with phony birth certificates social security numbers and multiple names.
Report Post »Marengo Ohio Patriot
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 8:01pmhahaha that’s funny… you calling canada socialist… you looked around at the u.s.a. lately?
Report Post »texasfireguy
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 8:33pmYou’re still a douche Marge.
Report Post »dukestreet
Posted on December 26, 2011 at 4:04amI don;t think Canada is any more socialized than the US. Especially with the communist,Islamist appologizer in Chief that’s in charge these days.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on December 26, 2011 at 11:13pmares338, update your political landscape map. Socialism in Canada is passe and gradually dismantled, for a while now.
If you prefer a graphical representation:
Canada <——– [socialism] <——— USA
Report Post »JEANNIEMAC
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 7:19pmMuslim men care only what other men think of them. To have it known that a lowly woman dared to defy the male authority of a father, husband or brothers, is unthinkable to Muslim men. If a man kills the woman who disobeyed him, he is considered to have reestablished his male authority.
Report Post »To Muslim men, women are not real human beings, but a class of being to be used as baby machines.
barber2
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 7:34pmLook at the Muslim world. Look at their governments. Their economic standings. Would seem there is a dysfunctional gene in that pool ! ( Even Farrakhan has trouble with the American Black Muslim men )….something is seriously wrong with them. And they jeopardize the future of mankind…
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 7:13pmApparently, this man does not realize he just dishonored himself and his remaining family more than he did in killing his wife and daughters. There is no honor in taking a life. Murder in Canada makes them unclean. If you want to live under Sharia law, please go back to live in the middle east. We have civilized laws in the United States and Canada and we do not recognize your barbaric neanderthal ways. The day that Sharia becomes recognized in the United States, will be the day I will start a revolution.
Report Post »Marengo Ohio Patriot
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 7:51pmforget it cofe.. if it has to go THAT FAR for you to finally put your foot down, we will not need your help…..
Report Post »Shamrock241
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 8:50pm@ Cofemale I am right there with you, i think 1 million patriots surrounding the White House and Capital building then snatching these corrupt crimminals out on there A$$ will be a good start. First order of new Gov (1) START DRILLING OIL HERE IN AMERICA 24/7 (2) BUILD NEW REFINERYS (3) REMOVE EVERY ILLEGAL AND THERE ANCHOR BABYS .
Report Post »natrlzamer
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 9:05amI am a naturalized citizen, came to the USA as a visitor,decided to apply for a change of status. During that waiting period I choose to adjust or acclimate to the laws and culture of this country, no regrets. Most folks have failed to remember that the american culture“pot” is a combination of different idea or input from a many different background for the greater good of this country. (This so-called “honor killing” oxymoron). Can never be allowed. For ShamRock, One cannot deport american citizens(anchor babies).Drilling for oil on the main, which I support will take about 10-15 yrs to make an impact on cost. Please refrain from exposing yourself with such level of grammar and information.
Report Post »I can empathize with you for being a product of O’reilly or Beck. You can begin to improve your level of understanding by using your local library and i mean actually reading a book.Start with the popups.
P.S Donot confuse American tolerance for weakness.
Phoneguy
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 6:42pmLegalized murder, I wonder what would happen if EVERYONE tried it!
Report Post »barber2
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 6:33pmJust wait until the “Community Organizers” teach these guys….
Report Post »barber2
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 6:30pmSounds like what happened to the Roman Empire. The multitude of barbarians are at the gates. Dark Ages to follow.
Report Post »knighttemplar999
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 6:25pmMuslims
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 6:05pmMuslims do not assimilate,,, they congregate and form communes!
Report Post »chips1
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 10:41pmJust the other day, an Apachie told me the same thing. He must know something!!!
Report Post »mrmikejohnson
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 5:55pmMuslims and Mexicans should get their own country. The United States will donate California to the cause.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 10:23pmMexicans have Mexico, the Muslims have countries too, whichever they came from. The problem is that even as ignorant as they are they are smart enough to know that in the West they have a chance of freedom from the harsh laws of thier fathers. It will take a couple of generations to cull out the ultra ignorant.
Report Post »pamela kay
Posted on December 26, 2011 at 4:41pmMRMIKEJOHNSON, lol (: ! That was funny.
Report Post »randy
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 5:51pmA murder trial is under way, heating up a national debate about how to better absorb immigrants into the Canadian cultural mainstream.
These sick muslims ( and they all are) have no intention of being assimilated into the western way of life. SO send them all packing on the next plane home. Preferably without a parachute!
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 6:00pmMerry Christmas!
Report Post »snufy
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 5:40pmI have to ask, why do those people want to come here and cling to their old country ways? They’re like wolves. One wolf usually won’t attack until it is in a pack. Keep letting those heathens into our counties and, when there’s enough of them, they will take over. Some countries, like France, are learning that the hard way. Better to nip it in the bud. If they will slaughter their own family members for such things as going online with a computer and dating Western men, how much less regard do they have for others?
Report Post »1776freedomofspeech
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 11:23pm@Snuffy
You made the a great point. Big Sis? You listening?
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on December 26, 2011 at 11:20pmBig Sis is listening, of course, but she is listening in an entirely wrong way.
Report Post »jttri
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 5:39pmBetter that they are killing each other up North, just wait America it will be rampant here soon.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on December 26, 2011 at 11:23pmEarth to jttri! There have been quite a few cases of “honor” murders in US as well. Canada has far less muslims than US, even proportionally. Mind it.
Report Post »Dumbwhiteguy
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 5:38pmI work with people like this who ignor you when you say hi or look like they would rather kill you than be sociable. They don’t like the western way of life but they want our money. They want to bring their kids here but don’t realize the culture change. It is truly a shame for these kids.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 10:27pmThats a pretty smart assessment for a dumb white guy.
Report Post »Patriot of My America
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 5:36pmCanada is so wrongly misguided. To bad for the children and the woman. An Insane father and husband.
Report Post »Brothers are also flaming Insane Send them back to Kabul.
Twobyfour
Posted on December 26, 2011 at 11:27pmOnce again, the “honor” murders aren’t happening just in Canada. US has it’s share. Canada is prolly wise-ing up faster.
Report Post »mule creek ridge
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 5:32pmJeffrey Reitz is an idiot if he can’t see where the honor killings stem from!! All societies have murders,but this insanity(honor killings) can be defined as to exactly where and who it stems from.It needs to be dealt with now or it will get worse!!!!
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 5:29pm‘honor killings’?
Try terminal abuse .
ugly, very ugly.
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 6:14pmIt kills me that they call it “honor killings”….it’s just pain murder!!…..
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on December 26, 2011 at 11:28pmNancy, xactly. I always called it “honor” murders.
Report Post »dealer@678
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 5:27pmYes, they are paying the price just like us
Report Post »CatB
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 5:21pmThey won’t / don’t assimilate .. pure and simple. Not the “old” generation .. and as the new try to they will kill them off to prevent it. Canada has let its culture be overrun for decades .. now they are truly paying the price of it. I have seen it first hand .. you cannot believe what some of these beautiful cities have become. Seems they will let in anyone .. as long as you aren’t a white anglo….
Report Post »singleparent
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 5:29pmAnd are culture hasn’t? this is going on all over the world.
Report Post »2theADDLED
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 10:10pmThe last time I was at Niagara falls it was overrun and not a pleasant place to honeymoon
Report Post »anymore. It had been overrun by those not speaking English or French.
Twobyfour
Posted on December 26, 2011 at 11:31pmCatB, Canadian immigration policies are changing. Better late than never.
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