Crime

Should ‘Self-Defense‘ Apply to McDonald’s Cashier Who Beat, Crushed Customer’s Skull With Metal Rod?

Last week, a woman was brutally beaten by a McDonald’s employee wielding a metal rod. The video is extremely disturbing. And it all stems from an argument involving fast food. But as details emerge about the incident, some are coming to the defense of the man. Let’s see if you agree.

First, a recap.

A woman in the Greenwich Village area of New York City was visiting her local McDonald’s when she became upset regarding her order and verbally lashed out at the man behind the counter. But she soon got violent, and things escalated when she slapped the cashier. That’s when all hell broke loose.

The women then jumped the counter as the man scurried to the back of the restaurant. He quickly appeared with a metal rod and begins beating the woman and her friend, who joins in the melee. The man can be seen continually swinging the rod as people plead with him to stop. He doesn’t. And the effects are devastating.

Spero News offers a detailed account:

The disturbing video shows the two women cursing at the cashier. After a commotion one of them slapped him. He hit back and ran to the back where the food is cooked and prepared. While he ran, the two women jumped the counter and ran towards him. He then reappered with a metal rod aloft in his hands and struck both of them. They immediately fell to the ground. One of them tried to crawl away. While she was crawling, he chased her and struck her as they pleaded for him to stop.

As they lay wounded on the floor, a customer in front of the counter was yelling for him to stop and a co-worker approached him and asked him to calm down. Then one of the wounded women tried to rise and he struck her twice. Another co-worker approached him and also asked him to calm down.

While the customer who filmed the video focused on the woman screaming for him to stop the assault, the cashier may have struck one of the wounded women two more times. The two co-workers again asked him to calm down and then were seen quickly backing away from him.

The video ends with the cashier, still holding the rod, looking over the women laying on the floor.

The New York Daily News reports the argument was specifically over a $50 bill.

Here’s a news report with the video included:

And here is slow-motion footage (content warning for graphic language and disturbing images):

“From what I understand, this guy just viciously beat my daughter,” the father of one of the victims told NBC.

And it was vicious. The woman who was targeted has severe injuries, including a partially-crushed skull. “She’s not out of the danger zone. She’s had some sever injuries. Her right arm is broken. The left side of her head was caved in pretty good.”

The woman has been identified as 24-year-old Denise Darbeau. Her mother said she’s currently suffering memory loss but is also being heavily sedated.

“Our concern is the background checks they do at McDonald’s,” the mother told the Daily News.

“I believe in second chances. But maybe they should not put people with violent backgrounds dealing with customers.”

The employee has been identified as 31-year-old Rayon Mcintosh, and he has a history of violence. How violent? He just finished serving a manslaughter sentence in May. The Daily News reports he served 10 years for shooting and killing a 17-year-old classmate in 2000. He’s currently on parole.

“I am extremely disturbed by the events captured on tape and am concerned for those injured,” the owner of the NYC McDonald’s said in a statement. “The actions of this individual are unacceptable and not characteristic of my employees. This individual no longer works for my organization.”

The second woman received only a laceration to her face.

Mcintosh has been charged with first and second degree assault. The two woman, including Darbeau, were charged with menacing, criminal trespass and disorderly conduct.

“We don’t know if she will recover,” Darbeau’s mother added. “We are just praying for her.”

But not everyone is piling on McIntosh. Some over at DNAInfo.com, which first broke the story, believe he was justified:

“I applaud McIntosh for defending himself. I hope the charges against him get dropped. I’ll bet those girls NEVER jump the counter again!” wrote Facebook user Ira Mills.

Others said while they don’t feel violence is normally the best way to resolve a situation, they think McIntosh acted appropriately in a difficult situation.

“I don’t condone violence, but I personally feel that they got what they deserved,” wrote Elsa Cirino. “He was defending himself. I would’ve have done the same thing if I saw two people coming towards me to attack me.”

“How in the world can you lock up a guy for defending himself,” asked Christopher Brooks.

What do you think?


(H/T: Buzzfeed)

This story has been updated with new information and to note those who have defended the employee.

Comments (954)

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  • Thomas Parker
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:47am

    If the two “customers” had been men, we wouldn’t even know this happened.

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    • zorro
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:55am

      You’re absolutely correct.

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    • AZindependent
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:13am

      Police go through specific training in order to overcome their instincts not to do harm to women and kids. A women or say a twelve year old kid with a knife or gun can be just as deadly as a 25 year old male. These two drunk women attacked the clerk. We have seen plenty of these type of attacks here at the Blaze (the cross gender transvestite who was beat till he/she had seizures) This guy also served 10 years of hard time for a murder he committed as a teenager. You don’t think being in some crap hole prison for ten years change his reactions when attacked?
      The sad thing is they were ALL wrong, but he will go back to jail and McDonalds will pay millions to the drunk women.
      When the system collapses (WROL) this will be an everyday event in every town and city, only instead of metal rods, guns will be used with deadly effect.

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    • Darla_K
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:19am

      The girl should have kept her hands in her pockets. The guy had every right to defend himself and maybe next time the girl will think twice before inciting violence on people.

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:20am

      @HADEN0UGH.. What was his history of violence ? I missed that in the story.. Explain please..

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    • ATTA
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:33am

      That is true, but these days these people do not learn from this, the only thing what is going to happen. Some attorney is going to get rich from this, he saves his money. The two stupid ones will get lots of money too, but they will waste it all and be back on the streets doing the same thing
      Because we are afraid of “doing things” to black people, because of JJ and the other idiot, these girls will go free.
      The business will close and people will loose their jobs, because 2 stupid women could not control their anger, and got their a… whooped.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:57am

      If the man behind the counter had been white, the whole world would know it happened

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    • Welcome Black Carter
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:17am

      (“Our concern is the background checks they do at McDonald’s,”)

      I think you should been more concerned about the PUBLIC and not let your daughters outdoors…

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    • Servant Of YHVH
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:22am

      I feel that the women got what they asked for, however, he did go way too far. I don‘t know but hopefully they will learn from this and don’t try to get physical just because they don’t like what is going on except in extreme cases, NOT because the guy was questioning the validity of the bill they were trying to use.

      @demint.disciple
      The guy just got through serving time in May for manslaughter.

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    • Servant Of YHVH
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:24am

      @thomas parker
      Not only that but there have been instances where men (mostly white of course) has been charged with criminal charges for protecting their homes and their families that were in immediate danger so I would definitely say that they should be charging and convicting this guy on charges.

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    • Uncurable wound
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:28am

      If they want to act like men,thaen take the beatdown like a man!

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    • GPS-Tech
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:32am

      Going to say this again, Dont eff with people you dont know!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • GPS-Tech
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:39am

      I would have defended myself also but he did go a little over board with the bashing in the skull part. Houston is a dangerous city so I have a machete stashed under my equipment, homeland security never catches it at the checkpoint. They’re so awesome.

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    • GPS-Tech
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:40am

      @mountain jim
      LOL

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    • Ballot_Box_Revolution
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:45am

      It started out as self defense….I have a hard time feeling sorry for the girls though…

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    • GPS-Tech
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:45am

      @charley
      Its not just the fast food joints. Subways, busses, county fairs are all potential raging grounds.

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:47am

      yeah it’s self defense. It’s a clear message to those who try to initiate force upon others. you will be beat into the ground with such relentlessness, you won’t get back up.

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    • the hawk
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:48am

      IT’S really Simple when the attacked becomes the attacker it turns from self defence to assault !

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:50am

      i want to say too, i know most of you haven’t been punched in the face or had a fight started with out. i have. when i got attacked, people had to pull me off the guy because i was pretty much blacked out and wouldn’t stop punching him in the face… just saying… people do black out when they are attacked and go into flight or flight mode… you want to go up and punch someone… take your chances… cause you could be beat to the ground, it’s the same with guns. don’t pull a gun on anyone unless you are prepared to die.

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    • Ronko
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:51am

      Both are at fault but I don’t blame the man for defending himself. The woman could’ve had a gun on her so he did what was necessary to protect himself. The only problem is, this country today thinks that a man hitting a woman is comparable to 6 million jews getting killed. That needs to change women can be just as evil as men and certainly worse in other areas.

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    • GPS-Tech
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:56am

      If this guy has been in prison then he has the mindset that you eliminate the threat so that it doesnt return for vengeance.

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    • IndependentThinker
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 12:03pm

      After People v. Goetz jurors must consider the background of the defendant claiming self defense. Goetz shot four thug kids that tried to rob him on the subway. It looked like he went way overboard in his response, but he had been violently robbed several times before. When that was taken into account, his actions seemed a bit more reasonable. In this case the fast food worker had a history of prison, where one must adjust their instinctual reactions to fight definitively when attacked, not just stop the incident from occurring. While this man went too far, I understand why he did. In fight or flight situations, one thinks with instinct, there is no time for consideration, and the mind blocks out all stimuli that is not directly necessary to protecting oneself. I would not be surprised if he didn’t even hear his team mates telling him to calm down, until after his threat was neutralized. I hope his sentencing is fairly light considering these factors. He is not completely innocent, but he did retreat, and was pursued. His response was excessive, but reasonable given his background.

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    • theaveng
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 12:06pm

      On the other hand, if he had laid down on the ground and let the ladies beat him, he could sue the bitches & McDonalds for a million dollars (or more) and be sitting pretty

      .

      Yeah. Self defense is the wrong answer. Let yourself get beat up – it’s like winning the lottery! ;-)

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    • BSdetector
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 12:13pm

      If they didn‘t write a check their asses couldn’t cash, we wouldn’t be hearing about it either. Sure he got carried away but with 2 people attacking you, you make sure they aren’t getting back up to try again.
      Self defense IMO.

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    • ConservativeSinceBirth
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 12:37pm

      I believe in equal rights and hitting back.

      I think the Golden Rule states it best:

      Do unto others as you’d have done to you.

      She hit him first. He hit her back. She and her friend came across the counter to fight him, now it’s 2v1. He has every right to defend himself with whatever weapon is handy.

      It is a shame that he will be going back to jail.

      My question is, why was the person recording well before the fight began, was it planned?

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    • teamarcheson
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 12:40pm

      Would You Like Cheese On Your Hamburger, Mam?

      Micky D should begin issuing iron bars to all their employees for security purposes. McDonald’s is going to become one of the safest fast food stores in the nation, a place you can eat without being attacked. I love the sound of bar connecting with the victims flesh and the sound of the bone cracking. I wish they had shown pictures of the two women after the beating. Americans are starting to fight back and refuse to be victums anymore.

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    • kristhetalker
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 1:07pm

      Yep. Absolutely correct. He’s only being treated so harshly because he had to defend himself against two women. I also wonder if any one else is reminded of the KY pharmacist who got life for shooting the armed robber. This feels similar. Any word from Sharpton about this violence against black Americans?

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    • Clive
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 1:33pm

      “The guy had every right to defend himself ”

      Yeah, well, a lawyer would tell you, thats not “defending yourself”. He had a right to slap her back, maybe. But to break her arm and smash her skull in with a metal rod, probably not.

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    • Bum thrower
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 1:48pm

      Today, a lot of females are just as bad as the guys are; Then they bitch when they get the crap beat out of them…..Welcome to the REAL world.

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    • JRook
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 1:58pm

      Perhaps a tad over the top but self defense non the less. Got to love the heroes who jumped in to stop it. Very similar to the China hit and run story. No one reacts, no one helps, no one gets involved. So is this why your mom tells you the McDonalds is not healthy.

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    • sbenton
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 2:00pm

      I disagree. I think after the first 5 hits, he had the situation under control. after that, it was simply a beat down.Not defending the chick’s actions. The one that slapped him should be charged with assault.

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    • joeejr69
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 2:05pm

      How about folks not slapping cashiers in the face then jumping across the counter to further assault them! I know it sounds cold, but the fact that he has a criminal record is secondary – the woman slapped him then jump the counter to go after him. She bit off more than she could chew!

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    • Secessionista
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 2:11pm

      His response was perfectly normal. When someone attacks you, you have the right to defend yourself, and defending yourself means subduing the attacker. He struck them until they appeared to be subdued. And then he stopped. If they charge him with anything, there should be unrest in our society. When these useless “women” sue him in civil court, he needs to counter-sue and take everything they will ever own, including their welfare and social security checks. If these women have children, those should be removed from their homes immediately.

      Folks need to understand that when a civilian is attacked out of nowhere, the civilian should not be expected to remain calm, they should be expected to react, oftentimes, with unnecessary and excessive response force. That is NORMAL. Most of us have never been attacked, and cannot respond in some “measured” way. If we did, the punk would pull a gun and kill us. So beat or shoot them them until they cease to move. That is the right course of action.

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    • Black Manta
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 3:39pm

      And this is why people with criminal records have a hard time finding a job…this is exactly what managers are trynna to aviod…now this would not have happened if they would check back grounds…and people like him just mess things up 4 other cons that verily changed…regardless if the females was in the wrong this is simply unhuman…could be someones mom, sister, aunt, whatever…it just doesn’t make it right….God bless us all…

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    • ICEDRAGONNITE
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 3:41pm

      When you grow up in society of violence that says keep hitting until they stop moving or else they will get up and kill you. Sometimes overkill happens. Not saying its right just saying about mind set.

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    • ISeeDanger.com
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 4:30pm

      Carry a GUN, not a steel rod. Rule #1 when you’re a cop, never get filmed swinging DOWN at someone. You always swing up or sideways. With a gun, he would have appeared to be in “self defense mode” and no case. Get it?

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    • mbean
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 4:45pm

      You are correct SIR….

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    • maryflaur
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 6:09pm

      In my opinion, she should have stayed on her side of the counter and tried to settle the argument peacefully. What would she expect the man to do, stand there and take a beating from her?

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    • paulusmaximus
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 6:54pm

      He had just spend 17 years in prison regardless of the legal outcome he is probably on his way back. The women provoked the attack and crossed over the counter. Self-defense! They need some time served also!

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    • @leftfighter
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 6:56pm

      @ Ballot_Box_Revolution

      Again: If you’re a man, you don’t need a metal rod to defend yourself against unarmed women. They didn’t have a weapon, so he didn’t need one either.

      That said, I can forgive him cracking them both once, just to put them out of commission. For all he knew, they had knucks, a gun or a knife on them. I get that part.

      He crossed the line when he kept hitting them while they were on the floor.

      That, my friends, is the difference between ADW and self defense.

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    • red1
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 7:15pm

      You can’t beat someone with a pipe for slapping you. This guy is going back to jail. The girls will probablly follow him to jail soon enough.;

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    • starchaser57
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 7:20pm

      Excactly. These slapping women need to learn to not act like that.

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    • naed5048
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 7:33pm

      ya reckon the women will think twice the next time? I doudt it. He did go overboard though, but when the womem jump the counter, what the hell did they expect? There has been a lot of this lately. Maybe this video should be seen by a lot more people of color

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    • Hobbs57
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 7:45pm

      At first, felt he went over board. However, once they jumped the counter, they took it upon themselves to be prepared for the consequences. I see red when I lose it, but I have never once threw the first punch in my life. Having knocked out several people but never understanding just how I did. It is purely fight or flight as many indicate. As a psychologist, I assure you these type of responses from this man come from a place in the brain of which we have little if at times any control over. This is what these moronic lefty’s never can gather. They have been so far removed from the reality that we must eat, breath, and drink water in order to live, no matter how far down the intellectual scale one goes, one can not escape this reality. Go over to Africa and witness what the aggression and fierceness real near starving conditions create. Amazingly, the degree of ones faith can trump certain instinctual behaviors. No intellect will tell you this, but when one has pure faith that they will not actually be dieing but going to another place, i.e. heaven, they have escaped the animal instinct;s that lead to a great deal of behaviors driven by fear.

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    • Mountain Mama Martha
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:03pm

      Very true. Two women attacking one man…I would have gotten anything I could to defend myself. McDonald’ should be ashamed for firing him. Where and who was his protection from having the crap beat out of him if he didn’t defend himself. I think once he had them down, it was a mistake to keep beating them if they were not still trying to attack. You can’t see what they were doing behind the counter. They could have still been grabbing his legs or trying to bite him even. I’ve sen street fights with idiots like these. They fight dirty.

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    • Thomas
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:47pm

      Looks like somebodies elephant mouth overloaded their canary behind.

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    • Sheepdog911
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:17pm

      “From what I understand, this guy just viciously beat my daughter,” the father of one of the victims told NBC.
      When they went over the counter, they earned whatever he delivered. Vicious or not, they earned what he gave them.

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    • TulsaYeeHaw
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:37pm

      Servant Of YHVH

      Better hope someone like me isn’t on the jury. If you don’t want your ass kicked, don’t smack someone and chase him when he tries to leave.
      People like that know that govt will go after anyone who retaliates against them. Unless you are in a situation like that (and I have been) you have no idea in hell what you would do.
      Don’t bear false witness.

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    • Morred2
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:53pm

      These two criminals thought they were the next stars of: “ McDonalds the beat down”. Instead, they got exactly what they deserved. When American government establishments are unwilling to show people like these two women justice, Americans will (in this case,Mr. Mcintosh’s record is irrelevant). I‘d say these two thugs are lucky they didn’t threaten someone else who might have responded by filling them with holes. Thugs, pay attention: America is sick of your ****!

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    • FreeAmerican
      Posted on October 19, 2011 at 1:07am

      The guys going to lose regardless,
      He can say he didn’t know if they had a gun or whatever, and he will still lose.

      He should have punched that first female that hit him right square in the nose and knocked her out! If that second female started over the counter; BAM! same thing.

      Obviously they weren’t raised to act appropriately in public and therefore should not be aloud in public.
      The one that hit first should be charged with assault and disrupting the peace. The other female should be charged with disrupting the peace, being stupid, and being friends with the first female.

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    • Bekster
      Posted on October 19, 2011 at 1:42am

      I sympathize for the father’s sorrow, however, I noticed that he asked what the employee was doing behind the counter and failed to ask what his daughter was doing behind the counter. Why did his daughter go behind the counter? What were her intentions? What was the employee’s state of mind as he was rushed by two hostile women? How would you react if you were rushed by two hostile (and, according to witness accounts, drunk women)? Was it reasonable for the employee to believe he was in danger of imminent bodily injury? If he believed himself in danger of imminent bodily injury, did he have the right to protect himself to the point where he was sure neither woman was a threat to him?

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    • yccousar
      Posted on October 19, 2011 at 1:51am

      No self-defense here… this guy used excessive force. The 2 women were laying on the floor probably unconscious and he continued to beat them with the tire iron. Add the fact that he was on parole for manslaughter, and this guy is going back to jail.

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    • apollo18
      Posted on October 19, 2011 at 6:32am

      He’s back in the slam. He’ll never see parole again. Doesn’t matter what they did to him, the women just provoked him into finishing the rest of his sentence.

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    • chazman
      Posted on October 19, 2011 at 9:40am

      … this McDonald’s employee should be the poster boy for what we need to do to the OWS protestors, Communist’s, Nazi’s and every other Liberal Marxist in America! Metal rods and baseball bat’s. Yeah …

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    • BDL1980
      Posted on October 19, 2011 at 9:43am

      The man was not a trained security officer so I have a hard time swallowing the concept he should have known what excessive was.

      When your life and person are in danger you do what you need to do to be safe. Once safe you can then stop. He told them to stay down several times and they kept trying to get up. You can see the point the girls head was hit when her head comes up over the counter again ignoring his commands to stay down.

      The last two off camera whacks he gave them were prob the only ones I feel might have been a bit much. But that is where the fact he is not a trained person comes into play not to mention the rush of adrenaline.

      The guy did not try to murder them. He did stop when he felt they were no longer a threat and he had the initial rush of his cooled off. If he was the savage they try to paint him as he would have not paused in his whacks. He would have just kept beating them. He said stay down/still, they didn’t he hits them. They move again he hits them cause they wont stop trying to get up. He wasnt trying to kill them. In review its clear he just wanted to subdue them. Though brutal it was heat of the moment self defense.

      You don know if they are on drugs, have weapons or more on them. Its just the day and age we live in. It might have been brutal, but just being brutal does not make it wrong. Just brutal.

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on October 19, 2011 at 11:40am

      Is she white?

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    • Airb0rne4325
      Posted on October 19, 2011 at 2:03pm

      Doesn’t matter what gender they were they obviously thought they could go to the back of the store, where the man had gone, and continue to beat or berate him. The key, for me anyways, is the fact that he is beating them on HIS side of the counter. Don‘t cross the counter and you won’t get your butt beat. They started it by slapping him, he ran (probably to get the bar), they crossed the counter, he beat the crap outa them. Cut and dry in my book. Don’t wanna get shot, don’t come into my house. Don‘t want this guy to beat the fool outa you don’t come across his counter.

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    • Jefferson
      Posted on October 19, 2011 at 2:52pm

      Wait till the welfare checks and food stamps get cut off. Then it’s REALLY going to pop off.

      I hope you wake up and support Ron Paul who is the ONLY one who is going to put a stop to the purposeful collapse of the economy. Otherwise it’s going to get a lot nastier than a few thousand in the park in NYC.

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    • TheBMT
      Posted on October 19, 2011 at 5:09pm

      I don’t know how you stop a man with a pipe. Unless your physically bigger then him and willing to get a beatdown if things don’t go right. I woulda jumped the counter to stop it, but it would have been with hesitation at first.

      This was a tough video to watch. I can’t imagine being the jurors in this case.

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    • Dont-hate-on-me-2
      Posted on October 19, 2011 at 5:13pm

      i know this may be extreme but i wasnt there i dont know what transpire nor do i know what happened proir to the video.

      What i saw was two women screaming wheres my gov bail out wheres my govverment bail out and then the two women became physical. The employee hit back in self defense and tryed to retreat to the back of the store. He noticed he was being persued and had no other choice but to elimnate the threat.
      This has beome all to a regular occurence. All these beatings and its the same ppl in the video all the time. I dont care what this mans past was or is, has nothing to do with what transpired. Hostility is a way of life for us, its our nature. his nature took over and i dont feel one drop of sympathy for these two women. They picked a fight with the wrong mofo. I would have done the same thing. I have no idea, NO idea what these manly women are capable of, and it is obviouse who escalated the situation. The man behind the conter did not strike the ladie first, he was accusted and life threatened first, however the level of self defense must equal the threat to the person and none of us no that level till our life is in jeopardy. I bet you the taxpayers are paying for these women to begin with.
      I STAND FIRM IN MY OPINION THAT THEY ASKED FOR IT AND THE ACTIONS TAKEN WERE IN ORDER

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    • meeterman
      Posted on October 19, 2011 at 5:51pm

      I dont know why he was slapped but the way he ran after the rod. I think that if those women didn‘t climb the counter he would’ve been on his way over it. and it looked like the coworkers were too busy working to stop the carnage.

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    • imreddog
      Posted on October 19, 2011 at 6:05pm

      Everyone has a right to defend themselves, but at a certain point the females were no longer a threat and this guy should have stopped. All involved should be charged for their crimes. This said, this sort of thing seems to be happening all too frequently among black people. Blacks seem to be all too ready to turn to violence or murder. There are complaints that there is a disproportionate number of blacks in prison… this behaviour is the reason for them to be in prison. Hey, you aren’t in the jungle anymore…. if you have been wronged, CALL A COP!

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on October 19, 2011 at 9:07pm

      Going to far is another subject. He was justified in raising their scalps if thats what it took to stop them.

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    • pavepaws
      Posted on October 20, 2011 at 12:09am

      Damn black on black violence.

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    • Thomas
      Posted on October 20, 2011 at 12:30am

      I think this is a case of where a woman has decided to act like a man and felt the need to prove she was and so learned a hard lesson.

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    • flatdaddio
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 7:54pm

      or if the employee would have been beaten no one would have cared

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  • WAR PIGS CRAWLING
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:46am

    Keep running your mouth……yep….just keep running your mouth…

    Note to all those who keep running their mouths….Don’t run your mouth…

    Waddle your fat ass out the door, and…oh yeah…Don’t run your mouth

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  • Treaty
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:46am

    Wow. The responses here on the Blaze lead me to believe that the Soro’s trolls are alive and well. I knew ******** have no morals but the responses are amazingly heartless.

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:55am

      Yes, this is what they do.. then they copy and paste their own responses to show how HEARTLESS we are. It’s a game they play. I read some of the stuff they are using as “examples” of posts at Fox News in an effort to SHUT THEM DOWN. It’s the Chicago way!

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:57am

      If you think it’s heatless then there is something wrong with you.. You think the girls were in the right ? you’re wrong period.. If they said their piece and walked out of the door instead of slapping the man and then jumping the counter and going after HIM, this never would have happened.. open your eyes soros troll..

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    • atechgeek
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:59am

      I have to agree with most of the posts. If you hit someone .. you better expect to be hit back. I agree it was over the top but the people jumping the counter will think twice before messing with a server or striking someone in anger .. as will you.

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    • BuggiOlleo
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:35am

      McD is about to be sued for hiring a Felon…that is complete BS; the lawsuit is coming to a McD near you…Psst, the McD employee was defending himself…Those two women were not kittens and looked as if they were going to rip this poor guy in half…What? A women cant beat a man, how bout two?

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:47am

      The girls were not in the right, but once the guy crushed her skull in response to a slap, he was no longer in the right either. Two wrongs, both will be punished accordingly. A crushed skull and fractured arm is kind of a high price to pay for a slap, don‘t ya’ think?

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    • conard3
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 1:03pm

      I think it’s called- people are fed up. Many people believe finally someone doing wrong was stood up to.

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    • patriot308
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 1:25pm

      to H lion
      While it’s hard to justify the overreaction; there was three escalations by the women. First the slap, second, climbing the counter, and third, following the employee toward the back of the restaurant. As the defense attorney will point out at trial. The beat down took place “BEHIND” the counter. If the women had stayed in the customer area, this would have not happened.

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    • AlmostaCowboy
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 3:45pm

      You can check my post history. I’m no troll. Those girls got what they deserved. The rules of war apply there. You do not know if they have guns, knives, razors, tazers, ice picks, etc. You beat them until you are 100% sure they pose no further threat – especially in a 2-on-one situation.
      Have you ever seen what happens to uniformed police in black neighborhoods when they try to arrest someone?

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    • Devilmist
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 6:08pm

      HEARTLESS, you are a moron who has never left that little protective hole you live in. These two got what they deserved. I guess next time they wont jump over the counter and try to attack some one. The responses are not heartless. They are of us who will not lay down and take this crap any longer. If you attack me then you are willing to die. Keep you damn hands to your self and you wont get your head bashed in. I would like to see them try to jump over the counter right now, with a busted a** head.

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    • AustinOnEverything
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 6:45pm

      Treaty I agree with you that some of these comments are despicable, but there is no way that this or any report/blog can or should be held responsible to such insidious comments. Trolls are trolls, then come with the territory. Yet some of these people may be speaking honestly, which is more frightening and I hope they re-evaluate their thoughts down the road. It is in my thinking that while it is fine and good that this worker defended himself, once one has control over the attack the fight is won, The continuous beating that he gives is the most disturbing part to me, from what I’ve seen in this video he turns from defense to wraith. It is obvious that he is a loose canon by witnessing his fellow employees’ reaction to him repeating the beating, they seem to worry for their own safety from him. Defending oneself is about maintaining control, neither party showed this.

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    • Thomas
      Posted on October 20, 2011 at 12:28am

      You can choose the action but not the consequences for that action. You should think about that when you put your hands on someone else.

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  • joe magarac
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:45am

    “Uhhhh, you want to Super Size that beatdown?”

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    • TXPilot
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:00am

      @JOE MAGARAC……..lol…..I don’t think think I want it super-sized….It was bad enough when I knew it would go to your thighs….now it goes to your head apparently.

      Sorry folks, but this is a good example of someones mouth writing a check their a@@ couldnt cash. Trying to bully someone is a bad idea, not just because its wrong, but also the chance that the person you threaten might just turn around and come after you. I’m sure theres a moral in this story somewhere, but I can’t think of what it is, because I really want french fries right now.

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    • SLARTIBARTFAST
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:23am

      Didn’t he get chased into the back where he was, literally, cornered? Man or Beast, you corner them and the natural reaction is to defend themselves. Fight or Flight minus Flight = FIGHT. BTW: Judge this guy’s actions now, not what he’s done before and paid for.

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    • GUNTRUCKRUNNERS
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 3:53pm

      Before the clerk clocked in he had a super-sized order of whip-ass. The two loud mouthed skanks got exactly what they deserved. What would they have done if he didn’t defend himself?

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  • IslandMama
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:45am

    Seriously, though people, are you kidding? Yes, the woman is at fault for starting the fight but the man’s reaction was waaaaayyyyyyy over the top and he could have killed her. Let’s have some perspective here. She was definitely in the wrong. Definitely. And it will, I am sure, teach her not to do that again. But the man was beyond wrong – had he done what she did and nothing more, she would have walked out of there mad, but unharmed. No one should have done either thing. But let’s not forget who did the worse damage.

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:58am

      Hmmm,, I see the N.Y heart is starting to bleed…

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    • diablosho
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:58am

      You obviously haven’t dealth with these black “women” before…They live to provoke men, knowing we can’t do anything to them. They attack, and if you don’t deal with them extremely violently from the beginning, they will gang up on you and continue to assault you.

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    • Conkuur
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:15am

      Once you attack a threatening individual a certain adrenaline charges through that individual, there is no rationale at that time as to how or if the individual is finally a non threat. I only hope you never in your life have to live through the same situation. Adrenaline overcomes rational thought whether you are in fight or flight mode. Look up the psychology before you write this guy off. He was defending himself and only had a split second to decide fight or flight after that it was pure adrenaline.

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    • kralspaces
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:31am

      What would you except from someone who has killed before and spent 10 years in our prison system. Enough said.

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    • rubydee
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:37am

      I agree the guy went way too far but…. these women were asking for something. The moral of the story here is be careful of your behavior because you might not like the result. This guy has a temper control problem but normal people are getting sick and tired of being run over by the likes of these two women. This is happening everywhere and maybe a few of them need to be taught a lesson. Maybe this will show people that they had better think twice before flying over a counter at McDonalds. You never know who will fight back.

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    • JusticeIsComing828
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:06am

      I’m sorry, black or white, male or female, if someone comes at me with intent to harm, I will defend myself. That’s exactly what happened here. The problem is the final swing. He OBVIOUSLY tried to remove himself from the situation, even though the women made the first move. And when they continued to pursue him he turned and practiced his God given right to self defense. But after they were down, he continued to hit them. Was it over the top? Yes. But in the end it boils down to her initiated the confrontation, which is obviously the lady. If you can’t run with the big dogs stay on the porch.

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    • lel2007
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:12am

      CONCUUR is absolutely correct.

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    • Bruce_Almty
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:41am

      He responded under the Anti-Bully Law. She asked for a can of whoop-ass and he gave her the super-sized. She deserved every bit and more. Customers aren’t allowed behind the counter.

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    • jimiray
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:18am

      @diablosho..i had 2 of these type women spank me last week…costed me $250

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    • conard3
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 1:09pm

      Like many people have already stated, he was attacked, charged and cornered by more than one attacker. It’s instinctual for humans beings (animals ourselves) to become the most violent in those situations. The ONLY other common response there would be to accept the attack. He obviously did the former. I would acquit him.

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    • Lord_Frostwind
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 1:13pm

      He did get out of control, but you have to understand, adrenaline and fight or flight reactions are terribly potent. People who don’t know how to control it can easily kill somebody without much thought, especially if they have some sort of weapon. Outnumbered, and probably having watched a few of the videos where workers were hurt, he isn’t innocent, but neither are they, both are at fault.

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on October 19, 2011 at 2:04am

      While I do agree, he was provoked intentionally. I am so tired of this attitude that we see all to often. I would say she will risk it again and again if she gets a settlement. Regardless he took things to far and will no doubt be punished and these two women will walk away with a tidy sum. I expect more incidents will follow as the have in the recent past.

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    • teamarcheson
      Posted on October 19, 2011 at 10:10am

      Could He Have Been From Haiti?

      I have a feeling that these two women had caused trouble before and this is why the patron was filming them before the incident. In Haiti, black men are King and women do not raise their voices to men and these two American Princesses were cursing and slapping the man. He probably ran to the back to to fetch his 50 cal automatic but had left it in his other jacket. He was forced to use the iron pipe.

      Where is the picture of the two women in the hospital.

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    • Lamarr01
      Posted on October 19, 2011 at 7:26pm

      McDonald’s has a policy of refusing anything greater than a 20 dollar bill. The cashier was correct in refusing the cash. It‘s surprising that McDonald’s doesn’t have a policy against letting someone with a criminal record handle money. There is a Wendy’s near me that hires burger flippers that are out on work release.

      Many fast-food cashiers supplement their income by short-changing the customers. After 8 P.M., the probability of getting the correct change and the correct order is about 20 percent of the time.

      Chicago has so many young, black men with felony convictions there is a proposal to subsidize any employer who will give them a job. McDonald’s will be sued for millions of dollars for this incident.

      Remember…Under no conditions attempt to defend yourself.

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  • Jaxco
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:45am

    They jumped the counter, they got what they deserved.

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    • steveo427
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:55am

      I agree with you 100% I can’t believe all the people feeling sorry for the girls. She made the choice to slap him, she made the choice to come over the counter…SHE is to blame for her beat down.
      You don’t hit somebody and not expect to get hit back. I bet she won’t do it again.

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    • Dinkiecb
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:01am

      I don’t think he beat them enough!!!!!!!!!!!! The other employees should have helped by throwing the women back over the counter at the very least!!! There is NO EXCUSE for a customer to be behind the counter unless there is some sort of an emergency and you are able to help respond to it. Chasing an employee you deserve what you get

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    • db321
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:33am

      If he hadn’t starting attaching back – these two thugs would have beat this guy to death – he had every right to stop the threat – when the threat was over he should have stop.

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    • southernloyalty
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 4:20pm

      Amen, if you behave like animals be prepared to be treated like animals. I feel no simpathy for these beasts. They think they can do whatever they want. They got what they deserved and should think twice the next time they get out of control. This guy deserves a medal.

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  • Mandors
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:43am

    The guy went too far–at the end. But I wonder what the effect would be if everybody knew that if you attack someone, you can get the crap beaten out of you just like this. Maybe a little more civility? No sympathy.

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    • lel2007
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 12:05pm

      The guy probably thought he was well on his way to recovering from his prison experience. How better to re-acclimate with society than having a safe non-stressful job serving Happy Meals to children, interacting with normal people, serving up hot food to hungry brothers and sisters.
      He went too far? Maybe the guy thought he was the Sugar Plum Fairy tapping the unhappy customers on the forehead with his Happiness Wand and it was a case of excessive enthusiasm.
      The two women went too far with the wrong victim.

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    • conard3
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 1:13pm

      LOL wand… sugar plum…LOL! Made my day.

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  • techengineer11
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:43am

    Apparently some think that this is ok.. We rant and rave about the commie bias at CNN and other Media which is true but we don’t have any problem with Ron Paul being censored and ignored. You know even if I hated everything about Ron Paul the Media black out would raise my suspicions about their motives… Bottom line is IPAC says no to Ron Paul therefore the Media black out!

    techengineer11
    Posted on October 17, 2011 at 3:36pm
    Did anyone notice Ron Paul’s plan to cut 1 trillion from the US Budget today?

    Did anyone notice that Ron Paul is the least covered of any Presidential candidate with an unbelievably low 2% coverage??

    Me thinkest that Ron Paul doesn‘t support the Military Industrial Complex enough and the Welfare State and he sure as hell isn’t pleasing to IPAC so therefore their Media refuses to give him any attention… None!!!

    Blaze??? A trillion dollar budget cut and a budget in general from a Presidential candidate garnering low double digits despite the lack of Media coverage is not news enough for you? Or are you mandated by the Jewish Apartheid not to cover Ron Paul?

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    • Ok-Sure
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:39am

      Ron Paul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UP with common sense, self-respect, responsibilities and FREEDOM!!!! Please open thine eyes, take up your staff and defend your homeland against those foreign and domestic enemies, avoid violence, degredation and suppression of life until the enemy encroaches on your own.

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    • chewfatlip
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 12:21pm

      And Ron Paul has what to do with this beatdown? Other than the fact that he is as nutty as the two women.

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    • Duddio
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 1:03pm

      Well, MAYBE Ron Paul should slap someone at Mickey D’s & jump over the counter!! OR, he could beat someone senseless with a metal pipe? THEN the media would cover him plenty.

      WTH does your Paulie drivel have to do with this story? You know, every time I try to give Dr. Rep. Paul a serious look, some kook like you hijacks a website and runs on incoherently about stuff I just don’t care about. It’s Paultards like you that keep him from gaining any more than about 10% national support. You, and then there are some of the ridiculous things that come out of his mouth about foreign policy….. You know, even the founding fathers were shocked out of their isolationism and noninterventionist leanings by the Muslim aggression from Tripoli…. it’s where the Marine Corps and Navy came from!

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    • sbenton
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 2:06pm

      If I wanted to listen to an anti-Semite, I could listen to Louis Farrakhan, not Ron Paul.

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  • denispaul
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:43am

    It’s called self defence.They attacked him first but he’s the one in trouble.I want to be on that jury.

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    • AJAYW
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:19am

      Me to – Self Defense

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    • IMAWAKENOW
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:28am

      I wish you were on the jury but I am afraid it will be a bunch of idiots like the ones that gave the old lady a million bucks for some hot coffee. If a person has much on the ball they are eliminated from a jury by one of the lawyers. McDs will end up being the big looser. Tax payers a close second supporting the dude with the rod in prison and two new SSDI reciepents. I’m sure they are both so tramatized neither one will be able to work ever again.

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    • gunnerinva1976
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:36am

      Self defense up to the point where they were no longer able to attack him. Then he becomes the aggressor. When they were on the groung the fight was over. He went too far

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    • chips1
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 1:08pm

      If it isn’t McDonalds, It’s Denneys. This is becoming an everyday story. Never let two in the place at the same time until they clean up their mob mentality. Try to evolve from the tribe instincts.

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    • Bowmaster
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 6:18pm

      He did nothing wrong defending himself from an attack.
      Sorry Gunner, it’s over when the cops get there.
      Couldn’t understand what he was saying, but, it sounded like he was telling them “not to get up”.
      Maybe, they “tried” to get up!
      These ignorant women had “a catastrophic breakdown of their victim selection process”.
      Oops…not his fault.
      This happened FAST, I’ve trained for many years, and while I could have been more articulate in my response, the end result would have been similar if they attempted to get up AFTER I told them not to.
      I would not have stood down, or allowed them to rise, until the police and medical personal arrived.

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  • sister1_rm
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:43am

    Why did the person filming not drop the stupid camera and why did no one attempt to restrain him? Did everyone balls drop off?! What the H@LL? What the H@LL is wrong with people?! I didn’t have the sound on, so I don’t know what was said exactly that would cause five or six customers (grown adults) to scurry like sheep. A few co-workers sheepishly attempting to reason is lightly commendable, but not good enough. When you see evil, you stop it! Evil can’t be reasoned with, it can’t be appeased! It must be restrained and evicted with swift action! We are human, capable of knowing good from evil, and choosing whether we sit by and watch a murder, or whether we fight and save lives!

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    • sister1_rm
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:52am

      And NO!! It‘s not self defense to keep beating a woman who’s already down! It doesn’t matter who started it! Self defense is what you do when you push an attacker away. Self defense is returning a punch when you’ve been hit and the assailant is still coming. Self defense is pulling a weapon and using it only when your life is in plausible danger. The man appeared to be in no more danger than being embarrassed by a pair of stupid women angry about their stupid fast food. He was the bigger and stronger one and could simply have held them off with little trouble.

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:01am

      Why did the person filming not drop the stupid camera and why did no one attempt to restrain him?
      Because they LOVE this sort of thing .. C‘mon it’s 2011, it’s the year of the cellphone camera straight to youtube.. I’M sure when it was all over he pat himself on the back with a big smile and I GOT IT , I GOT IT..

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    • HADEN0UGH
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:16am

      What if she had a gun?

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    • ajentoranje
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:19am

      Spoken like someone who has never been in a fight before. The man easily could’ve held two girls back? Are you nuts? Have you see 2 black women attack? Did you not see the white woman they put in a coma? Not everyone is trained in how to handle themselves and how to put down 2 women punching and slapping you, and are able to do so without getting angry themselves.

      Good lord use some common sense. Dont blame the end result for the actions of what started it all. Thats like saying if the US gets provoked into using nukes on Iran if they killed 5,000 Americans. War is war… and if we need to nuke Iran inr esponse to them killing 5,000 Americans…. you blame Iran for kiling 5,000 Americans…. not the American response.

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    • RightUnite
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:25am

      @HADENOUGH… If she had a gun, guarantee it wasn’t legal.

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:50am

      Americans have become passive voyeurs, unwilling to help people when they are being robbed, murdered, raped, etc….But they like to protest….go figure.

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    • lel2007
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:09am

      Why didn’t anyone try to restrain the angry man swinging the steel bar? I guess nobody had a gun handy or a desire to have their skull crushed. Discretion is the better part of valor, especially when you’re not trained in subduing an armed and adrenaline charged angry individual.

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    • Mommy_of_3
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:34am

      If the woman hadn’t been so bold as to hit him in the first place, nothing would’ve happened & she would’ve walked away injury free. He left, they followed.
      He should have stopped when they were no longer a threat but it’s very easy to pass judgement when you are watching this from the safety of your home, isn’t it?

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    • MONIFICENT
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:50am

      @ajentoranje the story you were refrering two involed two black women and a trangender white woman/ man. The women where upset because the did not want a woman with male parts in the restroom with them. I found the beating savavage and unwarnted, however many of those on the blaze were conflicted due to their hate of blacks and their hate of transgenders. none the less the law requires an actor to when to respond with force equal to that which was used upon them interestingly, this use of equal force is not required in two places home and work were there is not duty to retreat so i think this case will be in the news for a while .

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    • vegas_gator
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:29pm

      i wonder if you were there what you would have done? i wonder if the 2 fat asses were beating his ass would you have complained? would you have tried to stop it? it’s easy to talk smack when you were not there! black women like to talk **** and act bad and start fights so when they get thier asses beat they deserve it! how do you know what they were doing behind the counter? trying to get up, grap his legs, reaching for weapons? i say wild west rules from now on! an eye for an eye. you screw with someone then you have it coming. the **** would all stop if people realized that there are consequences for thier actions.

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  • windanon
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:43am

    The man obviously overreacted and will be found to have defended himself with excessive force. However, it’s hard not to think that the victim provoked the cashier, who just happened to be a violent criminal. It‘s also hard at this point not to notice that a few of these incidents have occurred at McDonald’s. Use the drive-thru!

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  • therockczar
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:43am

    Awesome!!! Good for him!!!

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  • biohazard23
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:40am

    Sooooo, the little girls hit then chase down someone because their food order got messed up? Really?? Sounds to me like the little angels all need to learn some manners and anger management skills.

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:47am

      Prob is they will be rewarded big bucks, reinforcing the re-occurrence of such.

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    • biohazard23
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:50am

      And I mean that for all 3 of them.

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    • biohazard23
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:04am

      Yeah, some bottom-feeding lawyer will come out of the woodwork to sue on behalf of these 2 fine, upstanding young ladies. Do I hear Jackie Chiles??

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    • loriann12
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:20am

      The argument was over a $50 bill? What the heck were they doing paying for McDonald’s with a $50 bill? Most fast food places can’t break it because they empty their cash registers and take it to the safe when it reaches a certain limit. And she slapped the guy and jumped the counter. He may have gone too far, but adrenilin was flowing….don‘t be an instigator and you won’t get beat.

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  • SamIamTwo
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:39am

    Ah, not good. Wonder if MackyDs hired the guy knowing he was a tough guy…what woman would come after a man? Women are the weaker sex and vulnerable to harm by man. You reap what you sow.

    Yep the guy overreacted…just one hit per person will be the new law.

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    • ADNIL
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 12:12pm

      Maybe they thought that since they were “women” they would be exempt from retaliation. I learned my lesson about that when I was 16 and on a crowded dance floor and dancing with my girlfriend. An older boy copped a feel, between my legs, from behind. I whirled around to see him turn to leave and I impulsively gave him a swift kick in butt. He turned and decked me and went on his merry way. First and last time I struck one of the opposite sex.

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  • GittleShel
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:37am

    Who ever had the camera knew something was going to happen. And what was the kid thinking jumping over the counter. Horrific YES, but everything leading up to the clubbing, those people were there to cause trouble!

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:53am

      Don’t ya just love the father ? after HIS daughter slaps first and then jumps the counter ( ALL OVER HOT FRIES ) he tries to make like she was just this nice girl that never was in trouble .. I‘m surprised he’s still around.. If you know what I mean.. You know if the convict was his son and Mcdonalds WOULDN‘T hire him because of his record he would be on the news saying see they won’t even give him a chance he payed his debt to society they must be racist.. You can’t win when your talking about animals..BTW ONE hit would have been good enough with the pipe , not a complete thrashing..

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    • Link8on
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:23am

      Another reason to NOT support Obamacare.

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  • eyestoseeearstohear
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:37am

    Well, the McDonald’s Employee was WAY OVER THE TOP WRONG…
    BUT, I bet these girls will think twice before SLAPPING SOMEONE AND JUMPING
    THE COUNTER…

    AMAZING…
    I guess they weren’t expecting the HAMBURGLAR to be on duty, huh?
    Ok…Sorry, that was a cheap shot! :)

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    • PunditPawn
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:49am

      They’ll just become the poster children for how to entrap and win lawsuits against major corporations who will, obviously, want to settle this one out of court.

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  • bigfatslob
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:35am

    No big deal. I mean it wasn’t racially motivated, right ?

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  • jeffro314
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:35am

    not sure how to respond… obviously he took it too far – but have you seen the ludicrous behavior of ‘clients’ at shops recently – and since both of them came after him, i could see that he had a reasonable claim to needing to defend himself…
    entirely the girls fault, and they escalated first… and like you said at the beginning of the article – over fast food…

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  • AngelOnline
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:35am

    One word – EVIL

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    • randy
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:24am

      I totally agree with you. One word, Those girls were “evil”

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    • starman70
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:56am

      Not only EVIL, but a true commentary on the lack of civility on the part of everyone involved.

      He absolutely had a right to defend himself, especially when they jumped the counter and invaded his territory, BUT, his reaction was one of total disregard for the life of the recieptant of his anger.

      McD can expect to be sued – - – some ambulance chaser atorney, who is nearly broke will profit handsomely from suing the restaurant, its owner and McD Corp.

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    • lel2007
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:32am

      I’ve read the description “Godless cannon fodder” in writings about the End Times massacres.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:35am

    I do not know exactly what to say on this matter, due to the facts as layed out in the story show the woman is starting the argument and when the man moves away after she slapped him, and then she follows him by jumping the counter.

    Now in the case of his having lashed out in self defense would be one matter yet there is the part where he inflicts such harm on both women, I feel he crossed the line from true self defense to the intent to inflict substantial harm.

    So I have to reach the conclusion in the end that all three people need to be dealt with by the courts as appropriate.

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    • lel2007
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:45am

      People are like a box of chocolates. You never know what response to violence you’ll get until you crack them open. So in this case we have two savage women attacking a guy behind the counter because of a mistake in their order. It just so happens the guy is also a savage trying to recover from a propensity toward violence; a tendency to “snap” when pushed beyond his breaking point. (like Rambo‘s line in ’First Blood’ – “You just don’t turn it off!”) Over the top? All three characters are over the top. Why would you expect a civilized rational reaction where three over the top savages are involved. The little girls picked the wrong victim to beat up. I wonder who they’ll pick next time.

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  • TXPilot
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:34am

    Guess they thought that if the guy worked for McDonalds, he would be a good target to bully……I think their assumption was wrong……Nice to see one of these videos with customers acting like thugs and “not” getting away with it for once.

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    • Salamander
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:03am

      Yes, maybe the girls shoud have called 9-1-1 and complained about their order? Bad situation all the way around! Maybe first strike, each, was self-defense, but the beating was just that–a retribution beating! On the other hand, this guy apparently just got out of an environment, where asymetrical response was required to control one’s survival. Was it about the food? Was it about a $50 bill that was inadvertently ‘short changed’? How many times was this establishment robbed? Is jumping a counter menacing, crinimal trespass and disorderly conduct, or is it assault or criminal assault? What if the counter jumped had been in a bank, or in a hospital, or in a jewelry store, or at the Salvation Army? How would he know whether they were armed? Maybe McDonalds should provide Mace, or Tasers for their employees, or provide a ‘panic button’ to call the police? The girls should have asked to speak to a supervisor! Taking the step of jumping a counter to ‘get’ an employee largely absolves the responder of restraint in his response. Apparently, the beating continued as the ‘now’ victim continued to move. With everybody yelling, the ‘now’ assailant may have had problems trying to sort out all that was happening, expecially with his incarceration background! Pray for all involved!

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:31am

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    Why did the guy lose his job? He was the one attacked, all he did was defend himself. If 2 craized cows with Big Mac fever jumped over the counter at me it would be Hey batter, batter swing too…..

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    • cosette
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:48am

      I suppose the powers that be thought his response was “excessive”. I, however, beg to differ. In the first place people who commit violent acts against any individual, after having served their sentence, should not be put in a position where interaction with the public is necessary. That being said, the females involved DID initiate the confrontation and aggressively pursued the employees by entering his“space”, therefore they should receive the brunt of the blame and the punishment.

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    • Ok-Sure
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 11:27am

      He hit them while they were on the ground. Stood over them while they were obviously no longer a threat and bashed in their heads. This is your daughter what are your reactions going to be? They all need to be charged with assault and join a chain gang for a while, I personally think gettin work out of them is better than having them build “connection” while sucking down free chicken soup. Work all three of them until they have no energy to complain about a stupid McD’s order or enough energy to even lift a dang pipe. And whether they acted like it or not they are still women and a metal pipe was extreme. Just my thoughts….

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    • Bryancpe
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 2:28pm

      OK-SURE: My daughter wouldn‘t be assaulting the guy behind the counter and certainly wouldn’t give chase when the guy retreated. She got the worst end of the deal. That’s what happens. Self defense. Excessive? Maybe. It’s for the courts to decide if any charges are brought against him.

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    • cosette
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 10:39pm

      @ OKSure- I don’t have daughters, but sons, both of whom are respectful, responsible citizens. Neither of whom would conduct themselves in a manner which would cause them shame or embarrassment. These “females” are a product of their ghetto environment and lack of parental concern. Ditto the Mc.D’s employee. Nuf’ said!

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  • zeakster
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:31am

    he didnt star it but he sure finished it. no sympathy from me he didnt jump the counter or start the situation

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    • rchapman1941
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:42am

      If you believe that woman‘s slap on this quy’s face excuses his savage “pay back” then you have a bigger problem than the woman does. You apparently believe in an eye for an eye type of justice that shows no mercy to anyone. What a fool you are! You are playing into the very thing that will destroy us all in the end if we don’t stop being so petty and venal (look it up if you don’t know what it means) in our daily lives. For God’s sake, grow up!!! Please!!!

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    • AJAYW
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:44am

      Agree, once they hit him then followed up with comimg over that counter they got what was coming to them.

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:19am

      @rchapman1941.. The guy walked away.. you’re the dope and this is why the libs walk all over YOU and US and the reason this country has taken a 40 year swing to the left ,because they can get away with it.. BTW for everyone saying OMG he just did time for manslaughter why was he working in public ? May I remind you that that manslaughter could entail anything, it’s usually and accidental death. You don‘t know all the details he could’ve been playing a game of paintball with his friends and missed one when he shot, but the ball hit a car windshield and the guy crashed and died .. There is your manslaughter charge.. Or driving home with a friend from drinking in a club and crashed the friend dies and there is your manslaughter case ..Unintentional but a death the same..

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    • sbenton
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 2:23pm

      I disagree. He had the situation well in hand, and then he went way over the top. I‘m not saying it’s not understandable due to the manner he was provoked, but he has walloping them way after the threat had been subdued.

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  • MommyNeedsMoreCoffee
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:30am

    Ooo, and “the woman who was targeted has sever injuries.” Does that mean he cut off her arms or her legs?

    Yes, the story is horrific. But good Lord Blaze, the typos are extremely distracting.

    MommyNeedsMoreCoffee  
    • rchapman1941
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:46am

      Thank you. Why have spell check if you aren’t going to use it? Besides, I assume the reporter read his article a couple of times before submitting it. Is his vocabulary so limited that he can’t fathom how to spell a relatively easy word such as severe? Tells you a lot about how things are going in our public schools, doesn’t it?

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    • Lovehammered
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:52am

      This story shows the sad state of people’s souls today. Everything has to be dealt with violently. Speaking of sad state…I agree with you about the typos. They were distracting. You guys do have someone that actually reads the article before it‘s posted don’t you? Check your work, or have someone else check it for you. Would Glen publish a book that hasn’t been checked for typos and spelling errors?

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    • lemkete
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:09am

      I see your OCD is acting up this morning.

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    • BernieKittyCat
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:37am

      @Lemkete
      You mean CDO. Alphabetized, the way it should be.

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    • Axle1
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 6:50pm

      @ Lovehammered….. Glenn is spelled with two n’s…. ? If more people (like you) would pay attention to your own mistakes your soul might be happier….? Ya think….? I don’t think typographical errors are a major global / national problem @ this point, it’s just people (like you) that aren’t paying attention or just in a hurry ? You knew what they meant…. Lovehammered ? What’s that spell ? Nothing… Without proper spacing…..!!!!

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  • MommyNeedsMoreCoffee
    Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:28am

    “From what I understand, this guy just viscously beat my daughter.”

    I can’t even imagine what it looks like to be viscously beaten–would you need 10W/40?

    MommyNeedsMoreCoffee  
    • DeannaRae
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:35am

      “The woman who was targeted has sever injuries, including a partially-crushed skull. “She’s not out of the danger zone. She’s had some sever injuries”

      Apparently being viscously beaten means you will incur sever injuries.

      Someone needs to do something besides spell check. These are professional writers?

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:37am

      Leave Jonathon alone, it’s early and he just NEEDS MORE COFFFEE!

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    • Mandors
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:46am

      Apparently, it was a fluid situation.

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    • zorro
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 8:51am

      “The two woman, including Darbeau…”

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    • MommyNeedsMoreCoffee
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:11am

      Good catch Zorro, I messed that one…see what I did there?

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on October 18, 2011 at 9:52am

      Yeah and they need get the page view right.. I had half a story with only one video for most of my posts, after I posted 2 or three times I didn’t look at the story anymore, but I kept seeing people saying the guy had a violent history.. So, I went back and read it again wouldn’t you know that the other half of the story was there and also a slow mo video.. I don’t know if it is MY P.C but it seems to happen only on the blaze..

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