House Passes Ryan Budget
- Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:41pm by
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WASHINGTON (The Blaze/AP) — Republicans have pushed an election-year $3.5 trillion budget through a divided House that showcases their plans for trimming federal deficits and contrasts sharply with how President Barack Obama and Democrats would tackle the nation’s fiscal problems.
(Related: ‘Let’s Not Wait Until We Have a Crisis’: Paul Ryan Pleads for Fiscal Reform in Budget Debate)
The GOP package, proposed by Budget Committee Chairman Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), would revamp Medicare, cut everything from food stamps to transportation and reject Obama’s call for higher taxes on the rich. It envisions collapsing the six different income tax rates into just two, with a top rate of 25 percent compared with today’s 35 percent. It would also eliminate unspecified tax breaks.
The House approved the measure Thursday by a near party-line 228-191 vote.
The vote breakdown was 228 Republicans in favor, 181 Democrats and 10 Republicans opposed.
The plan faces almost certain rejection by the Democrat-controlled Senate.
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gbfreak
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 5:49pmExcellent. Now we have a chance once we take the senate back. Let harry reid sit on it!
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:00pmI bet the Senate Dem’s r taking another look @ Obamas budget.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:24pmGOP voted again to cut off medicare for granny. The GOP loves rich with the taxes breaks it lavishes one them and hates working Americans who pay for the wlefare for the wealthy with a cut in benefits and services.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:33pm@ Encinom,, r u a idiot, or did u make that up , or is it school rummer ?
Report Post »barber2
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:50pmENCINOM: The Affordable HealthCare Act is just another Democrat vote-buying scam. We are still trying to recover from their last big scam: The Affordable Housing Act . What a joke. Maybe they should “ change” that Affordable word on all of these scam acts because the jig is up on that one !
Report Post »antiencenom
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 7:04pmDoes anybody but myself notice the spelling errors that the troll Encinom as well as other ********
Report Post »make constantly in their post. Yes Ba ddoggy you too !! Reminds me of a police report a punk filed on me a couple years ago.He was being an ass,I got in his face,he threatened to go get his handgun.
I said go get it I will get my AR so we could dance,he called the sherriff cause he was skeered I was serious. His spelling was so bad the sherriff had to have him read the report back so he ( the sherriff )
could rewrite it so he knew what it said. Bwahahahahahah
You know what, I don’t know if Ba ddoggy is a *******,or just retarded,but he really rubs me raw.
soybomb315
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 7:16pmone small step for the country – a giant leap for republicans…
Report Post »encinom
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 7:30pm@antiencenom
Can‘t refute the simple fact that Paul Ryan’s plan is nothing more than welfare for the rich, so you attack my spelling. Even Ryan admits his budget is going to vastly increase the debt.
Report Post »Masterjanitor
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 7:50pmReid. Is the biggest piece of sheet that never got fushed!!!!!
Report Post »Komponist-ZAH
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:39pmEncinom—
I’m not sure I understand how someone not stealing from me counts as giving me “welfare”. Could you explain that via a valid syllogism, please?
Report Post »encinom
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:45pm@Komponist-ZAH
When the working man is expected to pay more than his fair share so that the rich can enjoy additional tax cuts that is welfare.
Report Post »resme
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 10:10pmInstead of cutting medicare first, Why not cut foreign aid? Oh I forgot, Both parties love sending tax dollars to foreign dictators. Nice job ryan balance the budget by 2040, hahahahah.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:22amListen, we could take the Senate back in this cycle. If Constitutional Liberals (what some call Classical Liberals) take hold Congress, then I hope Obama gets re-elected. When Congress and the President oppose each other, government spends less. Congress could actually gridlock the President and vote to defund his agencies.
Mandate youself to death, President Obama, with no funding to carry anything out.
Report Post »KAKnightinJax
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:29am@encinom
Our country was founded upon religious freedom, however, it was based upon Christian beliefs and morals. I encourage you to check out the new movie called Monumental. It will show you how the first to settle, the pilgrams, had such a strong faith in God that they endured much. They also gave us the receipe for a free socity. The central point of which is Faith. From faith you get morality, from morality you get law, from law to education, and from education to liberty. You can’t have liberty and freedom without faith. And if our country was so secular, then why did the US Congress shortly after the founding commission and print the Holy Bible to distribute to schools in all of the colonies. They printed 10,000 copies. They did this because they knew that to remain a free society, religion had to be the centerpoint of the communities.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 5:43pm“The plan faces almost certain rejection by the Democrat-controlled Senate.”
Yes, and I‘m sure it’s because the Democrat/Socialist Party has a BETTER plan? Let’s see theirs.
Obama has tripled our Nat’l debt! The world is in an economic storm! WAKE UP, people!
I’m praying our nation returns to the Lord, and the blessing & wisdom that comes with repentance and obedience. Deuteronomy 15:6 For the Lord your God will bless you as He has promised you, and you will lend to many nations, but you will not borrow; and you will rule over many nations, but they will not rule over you.
Deuteronomy 28:12 The Lord will open for you His good storehouse, the heavens, to give rain to your land in its season and to bless all the work of your hand; and you shall lend to many nations, but you shall not borrow.
Psalm 37:21 The wicked borrows and does not pay back, but the righteous is gracious and gives.
Proverbs 22:26-27 Do not be a man who strikes hands in pledge or puts up security for debts; if you lack the means to pay, your very bed will be snatched from under you.
Ecclesiastes 5:5 It is better that you should not vow than that you should vow and not pay.
Report Post »ken john
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 5:49pmWell Said…
Report Post »Anadara
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:18pmGood post.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:26pmReturn to the Lord, we where never with the Lord to begin with, since our founding we were a secular nation with Christian citizens. God is not in the Capital and never was.
Report Post »bigdeg
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:58pmENCINOM…I just wish your post could be reported for idiocy! Think-“One nation under GOD”. Are you really that stupid, or are you just pretending?
Report Post »Incredulous321
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:35pmIf you’ve been on this site for any time you already know Encinomom really is that stupid. No question about it!
Report Post »SHOWMESTATEGUY
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 5:25pm“House passes Ryan budget”. Senate will not bring it up for a vote.
Has any other president served a full term in office without a formal budget being passed? The dem libs and Obama, screw the constitution, the same constitution that says the federal government must pass a budget each year.
If people keep electing the dem libs to office the whole country is going down.
Report Post »angryconservative
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 5:24pmI want to know who are the 10 Republicans who opposed it. GET THEM OUT OF THERE!
Report Post »lemmings4obama
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:31pmAgreed.
“The 10 Republicans voting against Ryan’s budget were Reps. Amash, Barton, Duncan (TN), Gibson, Huelskamp, Jones, McKinley, Platts, Rehberg, and Whitfield.”
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/03/29/455159/house-republicans-pass-ryan-budget-2013/?mobile=nc
Report Post »chips1
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 7:29pmYUP. That’s the RINOs we have been talking about. ADIOS muchachos!!!!
Report Post »UrsaMajor
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:39amLooks like we started celebrating too soon.
Ryan just stabbed the Tea Party Conservatives in the backs… the same backs he rode to get elected…. by chooing party over principles and endorsing Mitt Romney.
Ryan… along with Mark Rubio…. has decided that the rest of the states who have NOT had their primaries yet do not DESERVE their say and everyone should just shut up and coronate Romney NOW!! Everyone else needs to drop out of the race NOW!! Gotta start campaigning against Obama NOW!!
Ryan basically endorsed Obomneycare by endorsing Romney. Apparantly Ryan believes ProgressiveFascism is only bad on a National level, but, just Jim-foochin’-DANDY at the state level.
Backstabbing Party hack.
Report Post »BEAR0571
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 5:05pmOne way to end this once and for all….
DO NOT PAY YOUR TAXES!!!!!
There is NO LAW that say’s we have to pay taxes, period.
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 5:30pmdespite what Ron Paul says….the 16th Amendment gives Congress the right to put into affect an income tax structure…so yes…there is a law that says you have to pay your taxes…ask Wesley Snipes about that…
now if you want to argue that the SCOTUS needs to review the constitutionality of the amendment…that is another debate…but that will never happen because if it was repealed then you would open up a whole new can of worms and plunge the nation into turmoil…..the SCOTUS doesn’t want to be held accountable for that….
the best you can do now is either amend the Constitutions again or revamp the tax structure and how it is done…like a flat tax system of some sort….
and don’t put up the same old idiotic strawman arguments…they are defeated in court 100% of the time because they are garbage and flawed logic…
Report Post »dont_drive_slow_in_the_left_lane_obliviot
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 5:32pmyes there is you idiot. check the Constitution, congress actually does have the power to tax and not all taxes are unconstitutional like it or not. even the smallest .gov needs money to run.
Report Post »bree001
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 5:00pmHouse has no fear of this bill passing because they know the Senate won’t pass it. So the ten who voted nay really are stupid, they could have voted yes to make themselves look good to the conservatives and not have worried about it passing. http://www.brendasblog7.com/home-page
Report Post »bree001
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:49pmThe Senate will shoot it down then continue to blame the Republicans for all our problems. http://www.brendasblog7.com/home-page
Report Post »barber2
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:57pmYes. The Blame Game and the Race Card. Same tactics the Democrats used in 2008….
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:47pmPointless as long as the Dems control the Senate and the man-child lives in the White House.
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:57pmDear Blaze…NAME the 10 Republicans who voted no on it.
Report Post »TheLeftMadeMeRight
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:59pmNo it’s not pointless, it is important to show a good plan to the voters and not just attack the other guy for not having one.
Report Post »lemmings4obama
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:33pm“The 10 Republicans voting against Ryan’s budget were Reps. Amash, Barton, Duncan (TN), Gibson, Huelskamp, Jones, McKinley, Platts, Rehberg, and Whitfield.”
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/03/29/455159/house-republicans-pass-ryan-budget-2013/?mobile=nc
Report Post »MarcusFL
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:37pmThe Sinate will throw it out.
Report Post »Obama Snake Oil Co
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:52pmWho were the 10 republicans? That is the question the Tea Party will want to know. Someone tell the president its over, he can go home and he can take Harry Reid with him.
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:16pmOur Nation is buried in debt, trillions and trillions of dollars…no more borrowing. Spend what we truly take in and that’s it. I believe no one has a solution..just kicking the can down the road…….
Report Post »bhelmet
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:14pmIs this the GOP version of “not letting a good crisis go to waste”?
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:43pmNo, DUMMY. This is a case of the House trying to bring the budget under control, and the regressive party stopping that process because they WANT the government to implode under the mismanagement of Barry Soetoro (aka Barack Obama).
Report Post »TheObamanation
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:12pmWithout a Republican controlled Senate … It’s D.O.A. … We need the Senate and the Presidency in November … or we’ll stay in limbo.
Report Post »lisa2994
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:08pmGood for them! Now the senate needs to pass this through as well!
Report Post »OniKaze
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:38pmThat won’t happen, as long as the man behind the voice of Piglet (Harry Reid) is the speaker.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:44pmNOT going to happen!
Report Post »hatchetjob
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:55pmONIKAZE, I thought Harry Reid’s voice sounded familiar. Yes, Piglet! Thanks for that.
Report Post »Jeritroll
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:43pmyou must forget that the Dems control the Senate.
Report Post »goobert
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:05pmI would like to see the Ron Paul one trillion dollar cuts passed this year and not next.
Report Post »ianmc002
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:04pmRyans plan does NOT go far or fast enough. We need REAL cuts REAL fast. Not future projected spending cuts…they don’t count.
To say that I was gonna spend a trillion dollars tomorrow, and then say no I’m only gonna spend 500 billion, and say I ‘cut’ 500 billion is silly. Welcome to future projected spending cuts. They could ‘cut’ a quadrillion dollars and it still would not make one iota of a difference….hence REAL CUTS, like RON PAULS plan. RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW CUTS.
Just say no to future projected spending cuts.
Report Post »DJ in AZ
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:30pmYour candidate and your ideas are DOA. No offense, honestly…just saying, you know.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:45pmAnd you think that either party would allow Ron Paul to do a single thing that he wants to do????? If so, you’re a bigger fool that you show yourself to be here!
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:50pmI agree with you Ian. We are in debt over 50 grand per man woman and child in America and that doesn’t count the unfunded liabilities of benefits that people like my grandparents voted for me to provide them with. The elderly in this nation have fleeced us for what we are all worth and without addressing this fact we are all doomed. And I haven’t even mentioned the ongoing costs of financing this debt. Historically, we paid ~8% interest on our national debt. Currently we are at 3% and the interest alone on the debt is more than it cost to wage war in Afghanistan and Iraq combined per year. If the interest rates go back up to the historical AVERAGE, it will be the equivalent of paying for every war since WWI all at the same time. We are truly in the crapper and alot of people still don’t recognize that the water we are in is yellow with turds floating in it. They all just think they are at a pool party.
Report Post »resme
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 10:16pm@dj, It’s not really “our ideas” it was James Madison’s ideas. You know a balanced budget? Rand paul’s plan is “real cuts” not cutting proposed increases, lmao.
Paul Ryan is a poster boy of the bush spending era.
Report Post »ianmc002
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:35amC. Schwehr No one candidate can do this alone. We The People need to step up to Congress and TELL them what is and is NOT Constitutional…and to follow it.
Report Post »EPICBAMF
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:01pmRon Paul / Paul Ryan 2012!
Report Post »bhelmet
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:52pm$3.5T – not too much to get excited about – Are we borrowing the money?
Report Post »MDDAWG
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:03pmSo, even with a budget that still will add more debt, the senate is unlikely to pass it. I don’t see any end to the spending out of control. Greece, here we come.
Report Post »wboehmer
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:06pmYep – if Ryan’s budget passed the senate (it won’t). About $1.5T of the $3.5T would have to be borrowed.
Report Post »JJStryder
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:06pmThat is the number that really got me too! 3.5 triill and it’s BETTER than Obamas or democrat budgets?. This government is so out of control even a numbers guy like Ryan comes up with an outrageous budget. Lets cap it a 800 mill and go down from there.
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 5:35pmThe United States currently has taxes and revenues raised annually of about 2.6-2.7 Trillion…so about 800 Billion will have to be borrowed…still down from 1.2Trillion projected if we do nothing or the nearly 1.4 Trillion the Obama budget would have had us borrowing…this from the man that said he would cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term in office…well… FAIL…he actually doubled it…and quadrupled it from the average Bush deficits over his 8 years in office…
so no matter how you slice it… Obama.. = EPIC FAIL!!!
Report Post »wesley7
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:51pmthe ammt. of money collected is not the problem. the lack of good stewardship with the money is the problem.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:47pmWRONG Wesley! The AMOUNT of money being stolen and borrowed is EXACTLY the problem!
Report Post »wesley7
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:49pmi agree with tsunami need to list the 10 who would not vote to reduce the deficit. remove them in nov. please.
Report Post »bhelmet
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:53pmWhich deficit are you writing about? Budgetary or National.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:01pmAmash, Barton (TX), Duncan (TN), Gibson, Huelskamp, Jones, McKinley, Platts, Rehberg, Whitfield.
Republicans voting Nay
Report Post »PASSIONFORCHRIST
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:07pmYES, remove the 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »MrGeek
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:36pmBHELMET:
Report Post »Get the terms straight! The “deficit” is the yearly amount we overspend, while the “debt” is the total national debt ($16T). I say we don’t let Congress raise the debt ceiling, the result is an instant balanced budget … if we can’t borrow … we can only spend what we take in. Simple.
Patio_Philosophy
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 5:06pmLet’s not get crazy about throwing out the 10 who voted nay. What if they wanted deeper cuts than what the Ryan plan called for?
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:48pmNOW we just have to get Dirty Harry to bring it to the floor of the Senate for a VOTE!
Report Post »sooner12
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:57pmEven if Harry did bring it to a vote, I’m sure that all the Donkeycrats are under his thumb and will vote the party line anyway.
Report Post »SoiledDove
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:48pmAwesome! The House has wasted more time on something that has no chance of passing through the Senate. I am so proud to be an American right now I can hardly stand it.
Seriously, what was the point of this?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:00pmAs opposed of what they usually do .. like showing up in a hoodie and wasting time?
Report Post »IntheKnowOG
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:05pmFighting the Nazis as a German citizen during WWII was a waste as well, but I‘m sure the gays being murdered didn’t see it that way.
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:09pmThe point is to meet their Consitutional responsibility to pass a budget. If the Senate refuses to do so again, so be it. November is right around the corner.
Another interesting point here: Obama’s budget failed earlier today without getting even one single vote. So, 191 representatives (presumably all Dems) are on record today as refusing to pass any budget, no matter whose it is, Dem or Republican.
My question, of course, is: why the hate? These evil Republicans are trying to push grandma off the cliff and kill Senior citizens, and women and minorities are most affected. Not to mention all the unicorn poop that’s going to be collecting on the streets because the Republicans are killing all of the unicorn poop collection money in the budget, which is somewhere in the neighborhood of 1 billion, gagillion, fafillion, shabolubalu million illion yillion … yen. :-P
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:53pmMr Soetoro (aka Obama) is trying to run on a claim that the Congress is doing nothing to help the current situation. The House cannot be allowed to show that it’s been trying to correct the budget situation in any way, shape or form. They’ve tried giving Mr. Soetoro everything he wanted in a bill and he STILL turned it down and then lied to the American people about having to work with a “do nothing” Congress. What is YOUR solution? Make him the KING????
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 5:05pm@IntheKnowOG
Comparing the money Dems are sending to infinitely grow the power and control of gov’t & the money spent fighting WWII is a classic apples / oranges argument.
(I noticed you didn’t refer to Jews being killed- many more of them died than gays in WWII)
May I remind you that neither group were the point of us getting into WWII. It was absolutely clear that if we didn’t jump into Europe when we did, Germany had long term plans of ruling the entire world, including America. That was a national security issue- while it’s not found in the ennumerated powers, military spending is covered in the Federalist #41 and is deemed absolutely necessary, for both our national soverignty & our foreign commerce.
Healthcare is not a necessary function of gov’t, it has never been deemed so, nor is it the gov‘t’s proper role to force s/o to compel the purchase of something in order to create commerce, in order to regulate it. It’s not found in the ennumerated powers, it’s not in the Federalist papers, & the Administration has proven over the course of the last several days that no rational argument can be made that could make it Constitutional, period.
This thing is going to go down in a ball of flaming legal wreckage the likes of which haven’t been seen since the Supreme Court slapped FDR in the mouth re: the AAA, and just like FDR post AAA ruling, I‘ll be surprised if Obama doesn’t start threatening court packing if he’s reemmaculated.
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:47pmIncrease help to the rich, decrease help to the poor. Same as every other budget repubs uselessly make up. Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results…
Report Post »bhelmet
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:03pmI don’t know what you call “rich”, but I will assume. We call them “job creators”. I don’t know what you call “poor”, but I will assume that as well. In case you have missed it over the years – the “rich” that give LEAST to charity (the way we are supposed to take care of the poor) are the ones who advocate to give the poor MY money. Real nice and big-hearted of them. I would be happier if there was “shared responsibility” – you know, the kind where 49% would pay taxes as well.
Report Post »IntheKnowOG
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:06pmI’m sure the poor would rather have half a loaf then no loaf as of 2025……..
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:31pmWell, we could vote on the Senate DEMOCRATS bill, but, oh yeah , there isn’t one. Or Barry’s bill, but, oh yeah, All the DEMOCRATS voted against it.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:55pmYup, and every time the regressive party increases the welfare benefits and look where we’re at????
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:44pmIts a start, we need to keep pushing though for the needed reforms; no matter what the obstructionist tactics of Obama/Reid.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:44pmLooks like 10 Republicans need some adjustments.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:50pmHere are the votes …
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2012/roll151.xml
You can find the R – 10 .. .who need to be REPLACED!
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:43pmWho were the 10 republicans opposed?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:50pmhttp://clerk.house.gov/evs/2012/roll151.xml
The vote
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:55pmAmash, Barton (TX), Duncan (TN), Gibson, Huelskamp, Jones, McKinley, Platts, Rehberg, Whitfield.
Report Post »sooner12
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 3:59pmCATB…….Thanks for the site.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 4:07pmYou are welcome SOONER12.
Report Post »Patio_Philosophy
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 5:10pmLet’s not get crazy about throwing out the 10 who voted nay. What if they wanted deeper cuts than what the Ryan plan called for?
Report Post »tbl10
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 6:08pm@CatB I would have voted no on the budget as well. 3.5 Trillion is still to much, we need to cut it down to 2.5 Trillion or lower. Why should be pass a budget that puts us 1 Trillion further into debt. Same insanity just a bit slower. Before we criticize those 10 Republicans we should find out their position on why they voted No. Perhaps they feel the same as me in that 3.5 Trillion is still to big of a budget.
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