Government

House Refuses to Defund Libyan Operation

WASHINGTON (The Blaze/AP) — The House has turned back a Republican-led effort to cut off money for military hostilities in the Libyan war.

The vote was 238-180. It came after the House had overwhelmingly rejected a largely symbolic measure to give President Barack Obama the authority to continue U.S. involvement in the military operation against Moammar Gadhafi’s forces.

The funding measure would have barred drone attacks and airstrikes but allowed the United States to continue actions in support of NATO.

In the end, 89 Republicans defected on the largely GOP-sponsored measure. Among the Republicans voting against defunding the military action were Paul Ryan and Michele Bachmann.

Comments (180)

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  • EmilyR
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 3:10pm

    This headline and article are PROOF that people don’t pay attention to the facts.

    They voted it down because it DIDN’T really DEFUND the operation.
    From the article: “The funding measure would have barred drone attacks and airstrikes but allowed the United States to continue actions in support of NATO.”

    Good grief folks – read the facts before jumping to conclusions.

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    • STAR SPANGLED SPAMMER
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 3:39pm

      Looks like it’s time to clean “HOUSE” again anyway.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 3:53pm

      We read it. It would have defunded a chunk of it and that would be a step in the right direction. Unless there was another pending bill that would have barred all involvement (and there wasn’t), they should have voted to defund the chunk of it they the had in front of them.

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    • last frontier
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 5:40pm

      ELMER We are NATO the people over there with us are just window dressing to make it look like we are not alone.

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  • James
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 3:08pm

    Any politician aspiring to run for the presidency in 2012 who voted against defunding Libya, has now lost my one Independant vote and don’t tell me you did for the troops, that argument might apply to Iraq and Afganistan, but certainly ………………………….Libya. Don’t run, your wasting my time.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 3:03pm

    My Repubilcan Congressman voted in favor of cutting funding, those who voted nay, lack the courage of their convictions.
    Good job Tom Price.

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  • saviorammo
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 3:01pm

    What they really need is hostilities in the House and Senate. Guns, knives, fists, I don’t care anymore. Let’s get Alexancer Hamilton on their A$$. Time to paint floor with blood. They are all traitors unless some stand for freedom and what is right. For God’s and our sake, the time is now.

    If you don‘t think you will be judged you very mistak’n!

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  • tadroid
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:59pm

    Surprise! Oh, I’m sure there was a rationale, but in the end, they have no principles, and the law is for them to interpret to their advantage and for us to obey . . . . or else.

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  • Slayer
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:59pm

    Enough of the crap and excuses, Republicans! DEFUND THIS LIBYAN WAR!

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  • Navyveteran
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:58pm

    Really doesn’t matter who we vote for anymore, forget Ronald Reagan, we need GEORGE WASHINGTON! I am losing faith in believing we can fix this without bloodshed. Sad day in America and her free loving patriots.

    Is Sacred Honor ok, haven’t seen him in a while?

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  • CrazyChuck
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:58pm

    Get out of libya, get out of afghanistan, get out of iraq. 30 days after we leave they will return to the culture and type of gov’t they had before the u.S. Arrived. Do as suggested above note the dem and or repub. Who votes to keep us envolved. Then vote em out! Time for the citizens to let their minds be known. We must end the obama aristocratic monarchy. Hey we have a constitution. Follow it.

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  • JamieWalker725
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:42pm

    The bill as structured was a back door way to authorize the now illegal and unconstitutional activities in Libya. Voting no, was the right vote and I applaud those members that saw thru the smoke & mirrors. What’s needed is a rock solid vote on terminating funding for use of US Military assets. Then I’d like to see a binding resolution declaring the President in violation of the War Powers Act and the Constitution.

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    • Stopit
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 6:19pm

      Who “structured” the bill that way? This is a R majority house.
      There must be something askew…West, Paul, Bachmann, Chaffitz, & Ryan against while RINO Davis (KY) and Rodgers (KY) where for it????

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  • gingerdr
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:41pm

    Come on Blaze change the HEADING…..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • last frontier
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:40pm

    We will just have to rely on the other NATO allies to get cold feet and leave us as the last ones standing in the sand, while the “leaders” in congress tell little barry they are going to count to 3.

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  • thorkyl
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:40pm

    I propose this as a bill.

    The United States of America shall not continue to engage, or engage in any form of hostilities in any foreign land unless asked to do so by the foreign lands Government, then only with approval of both the House and the Senate. Any such hostilities shall cease within 100 days unless the Commander in Chief requests an additional 100 days and such request is approved by both the House and the Senate.

    There, problem solved…

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  • yubba
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:40pm

    I guess we are going to get hosed on the debt ceiling next,The republican party, jelly fish, and Sponge Bob, you ask what do they have in common, I’II tell you NO BACK BONE.

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  • Chelebell
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:37pm

    Ok so maybe it was a bad bill, but I don’t see any others. Why would you spend so much time arguing to end the scrimage or whatever they are calling it and then just vote to keep going. The message won’t be received unless it sticks like voting to end this thing.

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  • Deanna in Missouri
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:29pm

    There must be a reason that we don’t know about yet. There better be a reason. We will not be taking this much longer.

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  • momprayn
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:21pm

    Disappointing — seems the Dems used this argument to win some wimpy ones over:
    “If we want our allies to stand by us in our time of need in Afghanistan we have to stand by them by them in places like Libya,” said House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer, (D-Md.) “We‘re either in an alliance or we’re not.”

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/la-pn-congress-libya-20110624,0,753223.story

    But I am still very happy they voted down the other anyway. Oh well……..fight on, pray on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • cloudsofwar
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:20pm

    i thought the house(hose) was against the libyan war. then they refuse to defund it. what is going on? same ole same ole. the games continue, while the country is at risk. forget about the American public and play Obama’s game.

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    • Wdawg
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:39pm

      i got news for you, conservatives/liberals are for big business and not the people

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  • MsMonsoon
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:20pm

    We’ve been hosed alright!

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    • starman70
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:55pm

      WE ARE BROKE as a nation and yet we are throwing millions of dollars worth of hardware at the Lybians?

      What is wrong in Washington?

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  • h20sue
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:19pm

    Okay, who’s typing these article titles? You must be as upset as those of us who are writing in… It’s “house”, not HOSE…
    Are there any editing jobs available with your company, Mr. Beck?
    I could use a fair chance and part time JOB… With Geithner trying to raise our taxes on small business I better find some other type of work… Darn him!

    We need to stay out of the middle east and let them fight their own wars. They‘ve been doing this for thousands of years and we simiply can’t save the WORLD. You can‘t change what doesn’t want to be saved or changed. Getting in cahoots with the Talaban is wrong! They’d just as soon cut your throat then look at you. They hate American’s. US has provided them guns, etc. and it’s time it stops. Give them money to re-build what we blew up is stupid. We blew it up for a reason! They are oil rich countries, and they find American’s deporable. Get out and stop giving money!

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    • hotterthanSE
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:34pm

      GET OVER THE TYPO!!! Good grief find something better to do with your time

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  • nomercy63
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:19pm

    We are in such big trouble! Not only a President that does not follow the laws he is sworn to defend, but even the person listing this story can’t spell house!

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  • hotterthanSE
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:17pm

    @exrepublisheep: it’s called a typo, smart-ass.

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  • jose wasabi
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:17pm

    No guts!

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  • vennoye
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:17pm

    How far removed the elected officials are, from the American people!

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:53pm

      Makes no sense to vote to get out of Libya, but to still fund it. I’m sure it was an attachment to the bill. This needs to stop. Write another bill to defund Libya operations, hell NATO and UN, keep any attachments away from it, vote on it.

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 3:03pm

      End Game BluePrint For Global Enslavement Movie

      Everyone needs to watch this movie. It is long, but extemely informative. Especially those of opposing opinions, known as trolls. You will learn what is really happening in the world.

      Report Post » NHwinter  
  • Exrepublisheep
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:14pm

    Why does a hose have anything to do with this?

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  • EmilyR
    Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:14pm

    The heading of this article is misleading. The bill appears to have been voted down because it was a bad bill and didn’t do what is really wanted.

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    • Texas Grasshopper
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:19pm

      okay this has been going on for how long ? …they cant stop write ..The prseident cannot make War without congressional approval , this Operation must cease in 30 days …is that to hard ?

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:20pm

      Who knows what their real intentions are? But I say, GET THE HECK OUT OF LIBYA NOW!
      Never should have gone there in the first place………..

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    • KickinBack
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:21pm

      Them hose in Congress are finally sticking up against the hoser-in-chief.

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    • KickinBack
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:23pm

      Aw c’mon Blaze, you corrected your typo now my comment makes no sense.

      I make no sense anyhow. Signing off.

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    • silentwatcher
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:25pm

      Yea,,,the libs probably tossed some ‘small print’ attachment in the bill to fund some other cronie program.

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    • Wyatt's Torch
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:33pm

      So….either way we can still play war with Barry so long as we are wearing our baby blue helmets?

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    • DirectlyUnPCman
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:34pm

      Gutless. This is why you dont trust politicians. This shouldnt be the case. Start electing regular folks and get rid of the rich, pompus bastages.

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    • SavingtheRepublic.com
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:37pm

      ^____^____^
      What the heck are these clowns doing? Stop writing bills that arent worded right. Here its real simple all in favor of not funding operations in NATO say Aye? Nay? See its that easy! This is why I am telling you all to vote ALL of them out they cant even handle a simple vote!

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    • SavingtheRepublic.com
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:40pm

      **grrr meant to say NATO operations in Libya… see they make me nuts!

      (Blaze edit feature would be nice)

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    • Chelebell
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:42pm

      Ok you are right. There is something missing like we are fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan and helping them in Lybia. So now we are pulling out of Afghanistan and staying in Lybia. It makes sense now. We support the Taliban!

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:44pm

      @Emilyr:

      Agreed…we need to stop funding EVERYTHING connected to this war.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:49pm

      Get out of Libya, out of Afghanistan, out of Iraq, out of Yemin, and the hell out of Europe.

      Do it, and do it NOW.

      We elected champions this past November to put a halt to the BS in Washington. If they aren’t going to do their damned jobs, they can get out too.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:50pm

      Stop attaching things to bills. Another item to add to the “to-do” list.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:51pm

      Furthermore. Since Michelle said not to de-fund Libya, her campaign in my neck is toast. She’ll need Ohio, but she isn’t going to get it.

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    • Huguenot Descendant
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:51pm

      Well I was about to be in up rage until I saw that whole support of NATO funding sneaked into the bill. Why can’t they just make a bill that says no funding period?

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:55pm

      @ SavingtheRepublic.com
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:40pm

      **grrr meant to say NATO operations in Libya… see they make me nuts!

      (Blaze edit feature would be nice)
      ———————————————————————————————————————————————-
      Blaze could have a successful forum if they would put in Pro Board Message Boards, like we use in Rivals, or especially in the Scout Football message forum.

      This format sucks.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:57pm

      The defunding bill had Democratic and Republican support that’s seems to be overlooked as well.

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    • fastfacts
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:59pm

      MCCAIN ADMITS LIBYA IS A MESS, BUT HE VOTED TO KEEP IT GOING http://tiny.cc/xjj7w

      Can we get out without killing Gaddafi… nope. Because it will be worse in the oil industry if we do and NATO will be done with, supposedly. UN has failed worse than NATO in almost every aspect but they are still around.

      BREAKING NEWS: TOP NATO ADMIRAL ADMITS THEY ARE TASKED WITH KILLING GADDAFI

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 3:02pm

      Send BO to fight his own War in Libya!!!

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    • Sound The Trumpet In Zion
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 3:03pm

      “ but allowed the United States to continue actions in support of NATO”

      Good for them for voting against this bill. It says that this bill is a Republican-led effort. If it is, it must be the RINO’s at work again since it may have defunded the attacks, it would have still allowed obama to stick his nose where it don’t belong. This bill goes directly against the bill where the House voted against the mlitary action in Libya completely.

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    • poorrichardsnews
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 3:10pm

      Any thoughts on Marco Rubio’s tweet today? “Obama botched Libya.Should get congress approval.But right answer isnt to let Qadafi win…” http://bit.ly/jFlWKv

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    • fatjack
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 3:25pm

      Among the Republicans voting against defunding the military action were Paul Ryan. Michele Bachmann.
      ——————————————————————————————-
      Bachmann got some explaining to do. I had her at No 1, but hmmm…………….

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    • The_Bees_Assume
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 3:28pm

      We need to bring all the troops home it was never a good idea no matter what Don Rumsfeld said.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 3:35pm

      @ fastfacts
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 2:59pm

      MCCAIN ADMITS LIBYA IS A MESS, BUT HE VOTED TO KEEP IT GOING http://tiny.cc/xjj7w
      ————————————————————————————————————————————————-
      John McCain went from being a Patriotic and proud example of what it means to be an American, to a worthless brainwashed chump who is a TRAITOR to every American value fostered in the forging of this Nation. He’s worse than Benedict Arnold. Not to mention that he, Lindsey Graham, Scott Brown and several other “FAKE Republicans” are Progressive ideologues.

      Nothing the Traitor to America does surprises me.

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    • the hawk
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 3:42pm

      WARMONGERs !!!

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    • thegrassroots
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 3:44pm

      So they voted “against obama’s military action in libya,” then — they turn around and vote to continue funding it. I’m Fed Up With All The Posturing! I’m disappointed in Bachmann and Ryan for lacking the leadership to stand up to the potus and hold him accountable for how many ways he runs over our Constitution. Those two are in the run to replace the guy — you‘d think they’d have it in them to put him in his place. Where In Congress Are The “Don’t Tread On Me” Guts Of Our Founders?

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    • CatB
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 3:51pm

      If they don’t like the bill .. .submit another .. and keep submitting until you can get a “clean” bill …. DON”T GIVE UP!

      TEA!

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    • Rogue
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 3:52pm

      I honestly could care less what else was in this Bill. If they really wanted to take a stand and force the issue, they would have written a Bill for Libya funding seperately, and refused to vote on this piece of garbage.

      Earlier today I ripped the Dems for playing politics with this issue…. Much to my surprise (NOT), the GOP is now on board with campaigning 24/7 instead of taking a firm stance. And you congressmen wonder why you are no longer needed or respected.

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    • VRW Conspirator
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 3:58pm

      EMILYR…right!!!

      Read the second paragraph…..the bill would HAVE ALLOWED continued support of the NATO action but simply stopped funding for drone and missle attacks and DIRECT US airstikes…
      that means the the US forces put under NATO commanders could still be accessed by NATO..
      it would have just stopped Tomahawk missle strikes, Predator and Raptor drone attacks, and US Navy and Air Force action…
      but seeing as Obama could just transfer the carrier fleet under NATO “temporarily” it would have meant NOTHING to actually have the US still pay for the operations….

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    • IMPEACHBHO
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 4:16pm

      Cruise missiles, hundreds of flights dropping bombs, drone attacks…….if a country did that to us we would would consider that an act of war.

      It’s simple, tell BHO to get out or be IMPEACHED!!

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    • Meyvn
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 6:37pm

      IMO… they can’t say they are against it and then fund it. Sounds hypocritical to me. Like putting our money where their mouth isn’t.

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    • MIBUGNU2
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 6:49pm

      Slick Move, This will really piss-off the hard lefties, a little
      strategy being played here…Bama’s a war monger ???.

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    • riseandshine
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 7:09pm

      CATB…That may be too much to ask for from them slacker show ponies in Washington. We’ll see

      Report Post » riseandshine  
    • Meyvn
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 7:57pm

      It’s just like impeaching a president but letting him serve his term. What a statement.

      Report Post » Meyvn  
    • teamarcheson
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 8:32pm

      An all 100 percent GOP House will never repeal Obamacare either. Hitler predicted in Mein Kamf that Democracy would collapse because no one will defend it. He stated that for Democracy to survive it must be defended because it is not strong enough to stand on its own. The GOP is finished now and we will just fade into history. Both members of the GOP and Democrat Party went to the same schools, had the same professors and were taught the same thing. They believe the same thing too. If Palin does not run, I am just going to stay home and put the USA in God’s hand. In God we trust, trust indeed…

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 8:41pm

      That’s alright.

      Continue to marginalize yourselves, you neocon and liberal losers in Congress.

      We’re going to oust you.

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    • WhatsUp
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 10:25pm

      Apparently this bill would not have established zero funding for the Libya effort:

      http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/C?c112:./temp/~c112pVHPXr
      SECTION 1. LIMITATION ON USE OF DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE FUNDS FOR UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES IN SUPPORT OF NATO OPERATION UNIFIED PROTECTOR WITH RESPECT TO LIBYA.

      (a) Limitation- None of the funds appropriated or otherwise available to the Department of Defense may be obligated or expended for United States Armed Forces in support of North Atlantic Treaty Organization Operation Unified Protector with respect to Libya, unless otherwise specifically authorized by law.

      (b) Exceptions- The limitation on funds under subsection (a) does not apply with respect to–

      (1) search and rescue;

      (2) intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance;

      (3) aerial refueling; and

      (4) operational planning.

      So maybe the folks that voted against this did so because it wasn’t a “zero-funding” bill–it has 4 exceptions. Why should the taxpayers pay for this un-lawful “kinetic action” and these 4 exceptions–I feel that those who voted “no” did so because the US should not be spending one single dime in Libya–no exceptions at all!

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    • arx
      Posted on June 24, 2011 at 10:29pm

      I never thought I would feel this way, but I’m really starting to believe we should pull ALL our troops home. Without even considering the lives and limbs we would save, imagine the money saved that could be used to quadruple the satellite coverage and pay for the occassional cruise missile or sortie to destroy anything that looks suspicious.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on June 25, 2011 at 8:41am

      NATO is now deeply entrenched in Libya in what looks like a civil war and there is no visible end to the illegal intervention, insists British anti-nuclear activist Kate Hudson from the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament.
      http://www.infowars.com/‘depleted-uranium-in-libya-will-kill-not-protect’/
      http://www.infowars.com/the-plan-to-destabilize-syria/

      Satan laughs and spreads his wings….

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    • Stuck_in_CA
      Posted on June 25, 2011 at 8:42am

      Ron Paul: Libya ‘defunding’ resolution would have actually authorized the war

      http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/06/paul-libya-defunding-resolution-would-have-actually-authorized-wa#ixzz1QF3pFVrR

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on June 25, 2011 at 8:45am

      aul has always been candid about his opinion on the Libya War. On June 6, in a post titled “Holding the President Accountable on Libya,” Paul argued that “the president’s attack on Libya was unconstitutional and thus unlawful.” In the same column, Paul also said that “we are broke, and the American people know it. They expect Congress to focus on fixing America’s economic problems, rather than rubber stamping yet another open-ended military intervention in Libya.” In the same column, Paul also said that “the president’s attack on Libya was unconstitutional and thus unlawful. This policy must be reversed.” So far, Paul has done everything in his power to reverse the policy.

      This is the reason Glenn Beck Hates Ron Paul
      http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-slams-absurd-libya-war-powers-debate/

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on June 25, 2011 at 8:54am

      funny how Cynthia McKinney is against Obama’s illegal war yet
      she is attacked by Blazers ?
      Just what is the truth in Libya ?
      http://www.infowars.com/american-in-tripoli-first-hand-account/

      I stand against the main stream NWO media
      whatever they say must be a lie.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on June 25, 2011 at 9:03am

      Great reporting Seidl, so who wrote the bill ?
      And does it defund anything ?

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on June 25, 2011 at 9:07am

      http://www.infowars.com/american-in-tripoli-first-hand-account/

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