House Rejects Reid’s Senate Debt Ceiling Bill
- Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:23pm by
Madeleine Morgenstern
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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Republican-led House has rejected a Senate Democratic bill that would slash spending and avert a federal government default.
The vote was 246-173. It was a preemptive vote in the high-stakes political fight as the Senate still hasn’t voted on the measure from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. The measure would raise the debt limit by $2.4 trillion while cutting spending by $2.2 trillion.
The vote could set the stage for negotiations on a compromise just three days before the Treasury says it will be unable to pay all the nation’s bills.
Debate on the measure was often testy and reflected the growing frustration among lawmakers. House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi pleaded for an end to “this theater of the absurd” and said “it’s time for us to get real.”
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Comments (107)
charliego
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:54pmReid states the GOP house, tea party are obdurate, will not compromise and anti-American among other niceties. all this while he tables everything the House sends over. All Reid, Schumer et al want is that open pocketbook and any plans otherwise will upset their gluttinous piggbank and Agenda 21 focus.
Report Post »Personally I like the Connie Mack proposal, and the BBA should proceed as a defined congressional bill proposal to send to the states for ratification.
ConsiderThis
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 4:14pmIf the Republicans approve anything that gives Obama a pass until after the election they’ll be looking for new jobs.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 4:18pmI‘m really gettin’ to the point of hating these guys … Politicians have become the enemies of the American people.
Report Post »wop6969
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 7:32pmI love it — we should always compromise with the Socialist, which means = do what they want. Hopefully the Republican Rinos will show courage, but I won’t hold my breath.
Report Post »Jakenaz
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 8:49pmThe House should pass a bill that raises the debt limit enough to last until the spring and early summer of next year. There should be no strings attached. Obama would be furious and not able to use the 14th Amendment.
Report Post »Look4DBigPicture
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 9:30pmI like Connie Mack’s Penny Plan as well. It makes absolute sense and is probably the least painful but most effective plan on the Hill.
The Democrats looked desperate on the debate floor today. They were in attack mode on steroids – spewing false accusations and insults toward the TEA Party. (They all said the same thing and sounded like a broken record.) I’m proud of the TEA Party for standing their ground. They did what they promised and I can’t wait to see what they accomplish next.
Report Post »Stopit
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 10:00pm@Look4DBigPicture
Report Post »Unfortunately when all of the plans to date increase spending every year significantly (baseline not flat), and have all been called “draconian” by the leftists, the 1% real cuts per year which makes sense to normal people, would receive the “hatchet job of hatchet jobs” from the marxists in their characterization. Nonetheless it is that kind of framing of the argument that we need to adopt, and I like the plan as well, although I prefer the automatic balanced budget via no debt ceiling increase.
mils
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:03pmi am beginning to think i simply do not understand how our government is supposed to work…it’s certainly not working in favor of Americans.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:32pmcharliego, you get extra point for using the words, “obdurate” and “gluttinous” and “et al.” You sound cerebral but if you would eschew obfuscation you’d get more. You lose points for your arcane reference to “Agenda 21.“ Is that like ”Area 51?” Is Agenda 21 an alien agenda? What the heck was wrong with Agenda 20? Are you advocating World domination by aliens?
Report Post »LIBERALSBEDAMNED
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:49pmThe time has come for decapitation of all democrats. Starting at the top…LOL get it the top. Lmaolol
Report Post »Zim
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:48pmI‘m sure if it was a Reid bill it didn’t cut anything
Report Post »Blazer123
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 4:14pmWhat about COWBOY POETRY??!! Where would the cowboy poets be without federal funding?
Report Post »Topcat
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 4:32pmIncrease debt ceiling 2.4T and cut spending 2.2T . 1.4T to come from savings in the troop pullout of the winding down of the war in the middle east. Thats if we pull out of the Middle East and when… And the balance to be determined by an appointed commission with no deadlines to achieve this goal and no punishment if they dont do their job . And this issue will not be addressed again till after the election , Thats Progressive Democrat legislation , for the people…
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 7:30pmYou forgot to mention the cut was from future increases. It does not cut any current spending levels.
Report Post »kevtheatheist
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 10:27pmLet’s be honest…
Report Post »If we consider our federal budget like a household budget, then we must factor in the continuing spending on forces in the Middle East. These are expenses that are above and beyond our own domestic spending. Over a trillion on this has not been reckoned on our books. If you are honest with yourself and your “pay as you go” mentality, you should have been for ways to raise revenue for these ventures. I remember that time and foolishly thought it would just get paid for somehow. The fact of the matter is, these actions have been put on the “credit card,” and we are only paying the minimum payment.
The dilemma here is how to raise revenue. If we raise revenue by raising taxes, we cannot trust the Democrats (and a few Republicans) to leave that money alone. Frankly, any idea to raise revenue that goes to pay for our debt cannot be entrusted to our corrupt politicians who will take any opportunity to raise even more revenue or hijack the revenue purposed to the debt for fabricated “crises.”
I imagine that unless the electorate becomes more educated and less sheeplike, bleating the talking points of their politicians, this system will break down slowly over time, which is much worse than a system breaking down completely in a short amount of time. A system will try to self correct itself as it breaks down slowly, swinging madly back and forth as parts break down and collapse.
ssingh1515
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:48pmWhy is the Tea Party even supporting Republican or Democrat lines? I think the best that can happen for the Tea Party is to form a complete base on America’s founding especially on the US Constitution (which it already is), but not affiliate with a political party.
Report Post »Where were you saying “freak in chief” when Bush was in office, Z CAT?
MrHr1207
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:56pmI was calling bush every name in the book. they are all puppets anyway!
Report Post »libertymeteor
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:47pmincrease ceiling by 2.4 but reduce spending by 2.2? liberal math? what a joke.
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Report Post »Zcat
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:45pm2012 is just around the corner! Republicans could have settled for the no tax hikes in debt talks. Play for 2012 and get control of both houses and them make the changes the country needs! And undo what this freaks and his misfits have done to this country.
Report Post »montana-bill
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:45pmIf Nancy had not Speaker for four years we wouldn’t have a reason to raise the debt ceiling.
Report Post »mrsmileyface
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:45pmHey Reid pehaps your hard of hearing…. but Ill say it so again in case you missed it the first 10,000 times……We dont have a revenue problem….we have a SPENDING!!!!!! problem. Address that and that only. But then again liberalism is once again proven to be a mental disease with no cure.
Report Post »MrHr1207
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:44pmThe funny question would be .Why are we paying interest on our own money.Abolish the and it’s debt. Anyone who owns are debt like china etc. should get payed real money backed by gold at a discounted rate. They were full aware of this money scheme being played on the American public! If it were me I would not pay anything out. Then we reduce the size of government and add tariffs . Bring back all troops overseas and abroad, ALL!! close all bases not on our land and put them on our borders !All welfare recipients would no longer get a food card but given a supplied amount of food! and there’s plenty more for starters!
Report Post »Zcat
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:42pmOf course republicans and especially teaparty will be blamed for everything, regardless of the facts. Whats going to end up happening is Obama will be re-elected 2012. I agree with Charles Krauthammer republicans/teaparty need to pick their battles. They’re on the wrong end of the battle. Between this and Ryan Paul budget deal it looks as if they’re sabotaging the 2012 elections. I don’t get it! We can’t afford 4 more years of the freak n chief!
Report Post »MrHr1207
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:49pmPic your battles ? please ! Don’t fall for that line of crap! They should battle on EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO SLOW OBAMA DOWN!!!
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 4:09pmHmmm did you read the Ryan Paul budget deal?
Report Post »ssingh1515
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:41pmRepublicans and Democrats say they want to cut spending and it is presented in their two bills. However, the two parties still plan on raising the debt limit, that to in trillions.
Report Post »powhatan
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:40pmI think next year with my baseline budgeting, I will gain 100 lbs. SO next year if I decide to only gain 75 lbs..I have automatically cut 25 lbs!!!
Report Post »blownaway
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 8:55pmThis new learning amazes me…
Report Post »regina49
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:40pmThese politicians are an embarrassment to those who put them
Report Post »In office. It’s laughable now as they think we, the people, don’t see
What they are doing . I stand with the conservative Tea Party states
Men and women who have spines of titanium to just say a resounding
“NO” to the business as usual politians. We will bring this country back
to stand on constitutional foundation that has always made us the
best country in the world. We, the people, are awake, are watching and
listening. Those who stand for liberty, small government, individual
freedoms, and faith in God, will always have my vote and my
admiration and trust. Do not relent, nor compromise on our
values. The days of arrogant, inexperienced leadership is over.
powhatan
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:38pmIt took two hundred twelve years for the debt to reach seven trillion dollars in two thousand three. Since the Deomcrats were voted into government and took control of Congress in two thousand four and the entire government in two thousand eight they have raised the debt to the present level of fourteen trillion dollars. In the space of six years they have added as much debt as all the other congresses and administrations in two hundred and twelve years.
Report Post »I Love Howie Carr
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:38pmNancy Pelosi is genetically incapable of “getting real.” She should keep her mouth shut and not vote at all.
Report Post »Look4DBigPicture
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 9:34pmI continue to be amazed how that woman was ever even elected to Congress and it’s even more puzzling how she became Speaker of the House. That woman looks like a complete fool every time she steps up to the mic.
Report Post »GetsGreased
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:38pmQuoting Nancy Pelosi? She’s as responsible for this current debt and entitlement crisis as anyone. Democrats only have one agenda, and they blame Republicans for everything Progressive Democrats have done to America. What she says in irrelevant. It’s not based on reality. What Harry Reid is irrelevant. It’s not based on reality. What Barrack Obama says is irrelevent. It’s not based on reality.
Dems ignored the first House Budget. They killed Cut, Cap & Balance without debate. They are petrified of the American people seeing what’s in any bill. They don’t want their bills read, and certainly not GOP bills that might actually have overwhelming American support.
Instead, they’ve dumbed down a dependency class that support more giveaways, higher taxes on 1/2 the nation to fund the giveaways, and have turned them into government handout addicts. The Democrat Party is nothing any different that a drug pusher now. Buying loyalty by taking what 1/2 the nation earns and giving it away to the other 1/2.
Report Post »freedom_gurl35
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:36pmAt least the House debated the bill, as opposed to Reid’s “we’re tabling all House bills” attitude. Not that the media’s going to note this: in their eyes, all Republicans are evil. No way are the Republicans coming out of this mess without taking massive punches.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:41pmwhen the thieves are fighting it is only good for good people.
Report Post »mrsmileyface
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:42pmMy feelings exactaly.
Report Post »Brianwoodyer
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:36pmLeave the cap and cut spending 40% now they will have no choice.
Report Post »Airgun
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 6:23pmReduce the FEDERAL BUDGET by 40% and peg all revenues to 20% of GDP and then hold our breath.
Report Post »It’ll suck for 4-5 years and then we have a roaring ’20s for the new millenium.
sbmmomma
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:35pmpart of the Dem bill includes selling broadband airways which are now current local TV channels. The government will do this anyway but tried to stick it in so some stupid Republican will vote “yes”; it will then be a bi-partisan vote instead of Dem party out-of-control and against the citizens
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:34pmStand strong in the House…WE the PEOPLE don’t want more taxes and spending. Cut ALL monies to the PEOPLES HOUSE NOW Save AMERICA from the commies.
Report Post »Captain Whamo
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:34pmRaising the debt limit to solve our debt problem is like drinking yourself to sobriety.
Report Post »rojotx
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:40pmWell said Capt’n!! Dems sure like to drink, lol!
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:48pmI will drink to that. Open up gullet, its five o’ clock somewhere.
Report Post »discardofevil
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:33pmHey liberals you will not give up paying those off to get votes! Reid’s proposal is a joke! At least Boehner had some depth into some cuts!
Report Post »Liberals = freeloaders with no common sense! This debt debate has proven that the left is so clueless on how to save money!!
Citizen7154
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:32pmGood for the House. I’d like to see some real spending reform and a balanced budget amendment before the debt ceiling is lifted.
Report Post »USA2012
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:39pmBalance the budget after cutting spending then you have something that America can live with.
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:30pmJust as Rush predicted, the House was set up by Reid and now the Republicans will blamed even more for this not passing although they passed 3 bills that the Senate rejected. Go figure.
Report Post »LadyIzShy
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:25pmya know we need to NOT raise the debt limit we need to cut spending NOW
Report Post »USA2012
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:35pmCutting spending is the ONLY way to bring US back from this financial crash.
Report Post »knockered
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:35pmNever have involved myself with the going on in Washington. Being a product of the 60′s turned me off to the game. Having the time to watch what goes on now in the government I find it to be sad that these people thing they are doing something good for the people. It seems the people of America and the rest of the world are laughing at these fools battle back and forth about their politics and allow the country to fall deeper into the hole they have created.It’s a sad state of affairs and only reinforces my sentiments of the past, that they are crooks and only are interested in their own advancement… Enough said. Peace be with you..
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:44pmThere is a word game being played. Cut to you and I means spending less then last year. Something was “cut” from the spending. Washington, House and Senate, are using “cut” as cutting spending growth but still spending more then last year.
Tell Washington to freeze spending levels. Cut 1% every year from 2011 spending levels. Debt free in 8 years. Connie Mack plan.
Stand in Truth.
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 3:46pmFYI…this is really not about “cutting spending” …it is all about reducing the amount we are going to OVERSPEND. These numbers (1.4 trillion, 2.2 trillion) come off of the additional NINE TRILLION Obama wants to use above and beyond the last budget.
So, if you made 20K last year and spent 30K…you are in debt.
So, this year you will still make 20K, but figure you will actually need to spend 35K…but then you decide to “cut your spending” and will only need 33K.
Did you actually do anything? Other than shove the 2X4 up your tush a little less far than last year?
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