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How Did the Candidates Score on the Atheist Report Card?

Secular Coalition for America Grades 2012 Presidential CandidatesFor the first time, the Secular Coalition for America (SCA), a 501(c)(4) group that seeks to “amplify the diverse and growing voice of the nontheistic community in the United States,” has graded all of the presidential candidates on a variety of issues that are important to atheists and non-believers.

(Related: ‘Freethinkers’ Launch ‘Progressive’ National Atheist Political Party)

As you can imagine, GOP presidential candidates — many of whom hold their Christian values dear — didn’t fare too well. In fact, the marks were so grim that Urban Christian News quipped, “If kids brought home grades like this, they’d be grounded.”

With atheists seemingly seeking a greater role in American politics, this scorecard is noteworthy, as it provides insight into the issues and stances that are important to America’s growing atheist population. The nine issues that the candidates were rated on ranged from church-state separation to views on civil rights and evolution.

Below, view an overview of the SCA’s scorecard:

Secular Coalition for America Grades 2012 Presidential Candidates

Photo Credit: Secular Coalition for America

The introduction of the group’s political report reads:

In 2012, voters will make a decision that will have a profound effect on our country: who will lead America through the year 2016. During a time when secular values are under constant attack by many religious leaders and political candidates, the Secular Coalition for America presents the 2012 Presidential Candidate Scorecard. This card reviews each of the major candidates in both the Democratic and Republican parties and examines their views on issues that are important to the nearly 50 million secular and nontheistic Americans who will help choose our president this upcoming November.

Bachmann, who bowed out of the presidential race earlier this week, came in last place with Fs in every category. Following closely behind her was Sen. Rick Santorum, who surged this week and has been attempting to ride the support he garnered in the Iowa caucuses to success in other states. The rest of the GOP field, aside from Romney (who was able to score an A for his stance on evolution) fared poorly.

Secular Coalition for America Grades 2012 Presidential Candidates

President Barack Obama performed best with three As, three Bs and a C. Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, a Republican who has yet to gain much support thus far, came in second place with all Bs and As.

It’s no surprise, though, that Obama received such glorious grades. The majority of “unaffiliated” religious Americans tend to favor Democrats over Republicans (55 versus 23 percent).

On the first indicator — attitudes toward “nontheists” — the candidates’ past statements were used to grade their standing in this area. Obama’s past comments, “We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus, and non-believers and “Veterans’ Day is our chance to honor those Americans who’ve served on battlefields…They are Americans of every faith, and station. They are Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus and nonbelievers,” earned him a B.

Secular Coalition for America Grades 2012 Presidential Candidates

Romney, on the flip side, earned a C. Gingrich, though, received an F. One of his comments, ”There is no attack on American culture more deadly and more historically dishonest than the secular Left’s relentless effort to drive God out of America’s public square,” likely explains why he isn’t resonating among non-believers.

You can read the rest of the atheists’ presidential report card here.

Scorecards are used by a variety of organizations. They generally provide information about where candidates stand so that specific groups (in this case, atheists and non-believers) can make more educated decisions at the polls.

(H/T: Urban Christian News)

Comments (165)

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  • momsense
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:11pm

    Now that I know that the Atheists hate Santorum, I hope he becomes the candidate.

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    • Byzantine_Catholic
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:43pm

      Why DR. Ron Paul is our best bet to beat Obama (more so than Romney)

      We are ALWAYS told that elections are determined by the “independents and moderate”.. Well guess who wins those voters?

      CNN did exit polling in Iowa and found the following (google cnn exit polls Iowa for more info)

      • Ron Paul won the Independent vote by more than 2:1 (43% to 19%) over Romney
      • Ron Paul won the Moderate vote by (40% to 35%) over Romney
      • Ron Paul won the first time voters by (33% to 17%) over Romney
      • For voters who want a “True Conservative” (37% to 1%) over Romney
      • Paul and Romney tied (26% each) for the urban vote – typically strong democratic vote.

      Dont let the Media fool you that Romney is the only one who can beat Obama by “winning the Middle”

      Vote Ron Paul for Liberty

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    • Romney-Rubio 2012
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 5:26pm

      More so than Romney, I don’t think so.

      Ron Paul has been running for president since 1988… says alot.

      He has been in Congress two times, almost 30 years… only passed one of his bills… says alot.

      He has no executive experience, unless you mention his radical/racist newsletter, which he said he failed to monitor… says a lot

      Sits on the fence on things like if he will run third party… says alot.

      Unethically puts earmarks in bills he won’t vote for yet he knows will pass just to launder more of our taxpayers funding to his district… says alot.

      Partnered with Barney Frank on a defense bill and inserted, I think 7 Soros officials in high positions… says alot

      RON PAUL… ENOUGH SAID

      Romney is my man and I have joined http://www.TeaPartyForRomney.com

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    • another_mormon_4_Ron_Paul
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 5:39pm

      Reagan ran several times, too, before he finally won.

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    • kritacul
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 5:47pm

      Same here…

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    • FreedomPurveyor
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 6:00pm

      Ron Paul should be Secretary of Treasury in Romney’s Cabinet.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 6:17pm

      @Romney-Rubio 2012

      Paul has run three times. Reagan ran three times.

      Paul said, “In Congress, I never vote for any piece of legislation that violates the Constitution’s strict limits on government power. I also do not participate in the congressional pension system. As President, I give you my word that I will only exercise my authority within the confines of the Constitution, and I will work every day to rein in a runaway federal government by binding it with the chains of that d o c u m e n t.” http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/statement-of-faith/

      Paul served as a flight surgeon in the United States Air Force. He worked as an obstetrician and gynecologist, delivering more than 4,000 babies. As a doctor, running his own medical practice, he would not accept Government healthcare from his patients, and would instead offer free service. He has written numerous books, winning best seller lists on some. He has won numerous awards for his stance against gun control and strict stance against arbitrary taxation, among many other awards.

      He has never sponsored or written anything that even remotely resembles advancing or supporting a Progressive (more Big Government) law or Marxist (socialist and communist) agenda, never promoted anything to advance Globalism, never advocated for radicals to take over and cause mayhem in countries, never encouraged for international banks to control the world’s economies, and never supported globalist organizations.

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    • cgnick
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 8:18pm

      This is the typical Republican attitude. This why the republican party is in such dissaray. Maybe you can regroup in time for 2016 becasue you don’t have a chance this year.

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    • Ohello
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 11:46pm

      Ron Paul can’t win, no one votes for the grumpy old men who inhabit the 2nd story theater boxes on Sesame Street.

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    • Macman1138
      Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:11am

      Me too.
      Of course Odummy got the highest score.

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    • kiwis-in-USA
      Posted on January 7, 2012 at 9:37pm

      Totally agree. No greater endorsement for him than the hatred and disapproval of athiests to make him the one hit the right notes for me

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    • The Third Archon
      Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:44pm

      As a Leftist, for what it’s worth, the ONLY Republican candidate I could even CONSIDER voting for over Obama in 2012 is Ron Paul.

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    • jeffersonian1776
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 3:33pm

      So you are saying that you support big government because it will be so much better ran by a moral self-proclaimed “Jesus candidate,” anti-individualism collectivist viewpoints, and an anti-free market highly regulated economy that will be better with Santorum since, as I said, he is that moral self-proclaimed “Jesus candidate.” All these things are the things that Santorum stands for, in case you didn’t know, but let him tell you in his own words. You need not go far on Google or Youtube to hear him say it himself. What a big mistake it would be to alienate all those Libertarian votes that will be switching their vote to Obama if Santorum is the candidate, and that is exactly what will happen. Libertarians want Obama out just as much as anyone else, but not replacing him with the self-proclaimed “Jesus candidate though who would be the Christian version of Obama. Santorum is exactly in line with those Progressives 100 years ago that believed in the Social Gospel and govt had a Progressive Christian role in people’s lives. Santorum does not disagree that govt can interfere into the private lives of others, only the content of the matter. He would exactly be right in line with the Northern politicians and ministers/preachers who were American Empire pro-Federalist whom all DESPISED and hated Thomas Jefferson whom they called Satan himself and even worse.

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  • Carter John
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:06pm

    Two things that will always spark arguments and instant rhetoric. Religion and Foreign Policy.

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:11pm

      Why are some atheists so bitter??

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    • Carter John
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:47pm

      I’m not Atheistic, I’m very Christian. I just say it because of the arguing and name calling in the comments.

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    • sharpie
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 4:13pm

      It’s not so much “religion” that gets people ignites “instant rhetoric,” it’s Christianity – and by that I mean Bible believing Christains. Atheists fear the name of Jesus…as well they should.

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    • RavenGlenn
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 4:55pm

      Mmm….no. I don’t fear the name of Jesus. It would be idiotic for me to fear a man that may have existed a very long time ago.

      However, as an atheist, let me just point out, yet again…that these so-called “Atheists” are idiots. They are the equals of the Westboro Baptist Church. And unless you Christians accept them as Christians, then you need to allow those of us with a brain in our heads to denounce these idiotic Atheists as well.

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  • RebelElf
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:56pm

    Just a observation and comment on the interesting Atheist symbol used for the front-page article headlines:

    Notice how the single line A wraps around into an O – like Alpha and Omega – but the ends don’t meet. God, like a wedding band, has no beginning and no end, but this symbol suggests a fading in and fading out. Jesus said He is the Beginning and the End of things – the Alpha and Omega – omnipresent at both events. So for a highly enlightened group, if this is truly the Atheist symbol, it is almost a contradiction in itself actually crediting God – so sad their confusion.

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:03pm

      Sorry, but the Greek letter, Omega, looks more like a head and shoulders than an O, it just makes the sound, the script form looks somewhat like a W.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:07pm

      Thanks for telling the world that secualrism is the code word for atheism.

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    • Carter John
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:07pm

      It looks a lot like the anarchist’s symbol to me.

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    • RebelElf
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:33pm

      …so sad the Atheists confusion.

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    • BODYBAG
      Posted on January 7, 2012 at 9:14am

      @SMITHCLAR3NC3
      “Thanks for telling the world that secularism is the code word for atheism”

      Good eye.
      http://forum.vintage-airstream.com/government-economics/732-religious-freedom-2.html#post13272

      Its an age old parlor trick…change the names to hide the true nature and therefore become more acceptable to a greater audience [ie. liberal/progressive - global warming/climate change/green initiative]. Once people figure it out, the name becomes tarnished, time to craft a new label for another round.

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  • proudfather2
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:46pm

    this is a great tool for me!!!! the lower the grade on their report card the more chance I will vote for them.WOOO HOO thanks for doing some of my work for me my non-believing Friends.

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  • Rational Man
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:44pm

    It’s no surprise, though, that Obama received such glorious grades. The majority of “unaffiliated” religious Americans tend to favor Democrats over Republicans (55 versus 23 percent).
    ****************************************************************************************************************

    But…..But…..I thought Obama said he is a Christian didn’t he?

    I guess even the atheists weren’t fooled by that political move either……………………

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:09pm

      Exactly atheist know Obama is one of them in the end. And religion is a lie he uses for votes.

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  • BOMUSTGO
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:42pm

    Goals 27 and 28 from the 45 Goals of Communism….
    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a “religious crutch.”
    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:55pm

      You do realize that those “Goals” were spouted by a Dixiecrat from Florida, Albert Herlong, Jr. who probably never in his life spoke to or read a single thing by a real Communist. It’s probably Skousen or some other Bircher who had some gas, these “Goals” resulted and they passed it on to their ultra-Conservative friends to repeat as often as possible. Repeating crap 50 years later, doesn’t make it any less crap.

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:01pm

      We seem to be right on schedule in following all 45 goals.

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:06pm

      Of course you would think that. It doesn’t matter that these “Goals” are completely made up, so of course we would be “following the schedule” which doesn’t exist. Some people will believe ANYTHING, no matter how stupid if it reenforces their fears and prejudices. Generations of snake oil salesmen have gotten rich on such folks.

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:09pm

      desertrose1960..Please explain the nine gifts of the spirit that are still in operation today..Until you find him, you are very lost.God is real, very real.

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:30pm

      Huh? What do the Fruits of the Holy Spirit have to do with the delusional schedule of the made up “Goals” of imaginary Communists?

      I’m a Catholic, and my faith isn‘t so insecure that when I meet someone who doesn’t share my faith I have to make disparaging remarks about the status of their soul. I get along with most Atheists, they know I will not try to convert them, and they know that my faith is my own, reasoned, and deeply held. We respect one another. I started saying my prayers and going to church on my own (my parents did not take me) when I was about 5 years old. I’ve known many fine Atheists, very few that I dislike, but I’ve run into scads of “Christians” I wouldn’t give a plug nickel for.

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:42pm

      The gifts not the fruits.They are not the same thing.Just as i thought. You have no clue.

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:58pm

      Sorry, but I don’t really do “buzz words”. I know that things like that are important to a lot of Fundamentalist Protestants, but Catholics learn about them in Catechism and then we’re supposed to spend the rest of our lives living the Fruits of the Holy Spirit. Catholics believe in actions over words. It’s easy to memorize some Bible passages, it’s hard to actually live them out.

      And you didn’t answer my question, what do the Gifts of the Holy Spirit, which are related and give rise to The Fruits of the Holy Spirit (see link below), have to do with your posting some red baiting drivel that was laughable half a century ago? Are you trying to prove my point that some people will believe any old piece of crap because they can’t think for themselves?

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:59pm

      Link to “The Gifts of the Holy Spirit” from the Diocese of Miami

      http://www.miamiccr.com/the-gifts-of-the-holy-spirit.html

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 4:18pm

      The fact that the gifts are still operational show that God is real and he is dealing wih his people. The gifts of Healings, working of miracles, faith, prophecy, tongues, interpretation of tongues, word of wisdom, word of knowledge, and discernment. These are the gifts..Some say that they are done away with. I have seen them in in operation since 1982.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 6:24pm

      @DesertRose1960 What are you talking about?

      It’s on Record:

      Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35

      January 10, 1963

      Current Communist Goals

      EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA

      IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

      Thursday, January 10, 1963

      Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

      At Mrs. Nordman’s request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following “Current Communist Goals,“ which she identifies as an excerpt from ”The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen:

      [From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]… http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

      It’s a real list:

      “The Naked Communist was a best seller in the early 1960s, selling more than 1.5 million copies. It found its way into the libraries of the CIA, the FBI, the White House, and homes all across America and overseas in Spanish and excerpted in other languages.” http://www.amazon.com/Naked-Communist-W-Cleon-Skousen/dp/1568493673

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  • Scott15sb
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:35pm

    I pray for the non-believers. They take the unwinning gamble with their soul. Even if they are right, they lose. This type of thought process should always be questioned by anyone who uses logic and reason.

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  • BetterDays
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:34pm

    Atheists don’t like to hear this, but they believe in what the supreme court calls “secular humanism”, or no belief in GOD and only in man.
    In 1961 Torcaso VS. Watkins , descending opinion, the supreme court ruled that “Secular Humanism” was and is still a religion. The liberal/progressive/GODless have tried on three occasions to have that decision struck from the records, and have failed every time.
    Atheism is a form of religion, a religion placing man as his own creator and salvation, it IS the true doctrine of Lucifer.

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:51pm

      Psalms 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
      Psalms 100:3 Know ye that the Lord he is God: it is he that hath made us, and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture.

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:59pm

      No, that’s how you chose to see it, because you can’t understand what they really think or how they see the world. You have to have a superior being to justify you existence, so you think everyone else does, too. The only people I have ever heard carping about Secular Humanism are Fundamentalist Christians who feel threatened.

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  • ZengaPA65
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:22pm

    I’m curious where atheists think they get any rights from that the rest of us call God given.

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    • Rainman3769
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:26pm

      How about “Basic human rights” jackass? Same thing, different name.

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    • DoseofReality
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:27pm

      Why do they have to be given to you? I have rights becasue Im a human who is part of this world…no one needs to give me human rights, I have them by definition….

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    • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:29pm

      They’re called natural rights.

      Natural rights are whatever rights you are capable of exercising in nature, devoid of any other human cooperation or interference. Say what you want, believe what you want, write what you want, secure your property, build tools, implements, and weapons, carry same, etc.

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    • ZengaPA65
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:29pm

      I asked where atheists think they come from not what they were called. Reading is fundamental. Douchetard.

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    • ninja
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:40pm

      “If a right is not divine it is no right at all”

      G K Chesterton

      If someone wants to derive their “rights” from nature then they shouldn’t complain when the stronger oppress or kill the weaker.

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:54pm

      Their are no basic human rights. The only rights you have are the ones you will actually fight and die for. If you are not willing to die defending a right, it makes it a privilege that can be taken from you by anyone that is stronger than you. That is evolution at its core.

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    • FreedomPurveyor
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:04pm

      Atheists see rights as granted by men. That is why they believe in positive liberties – a right to food and shelter, for example – instead of negative liberties – what the government cannot do, because we have inalienable rights granted by a higher power.

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  • COFemale
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:21pm

    Frankly I don’t give a rats patooty how they grade candidates. They do not speak for me and I make my own decision based on my Christian beliefs. Frankly, if the table were turned Obama would be ALL F‘s and the majority of other candidates would have A’s and B’s. So two can play that bias game.

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  • Mandors
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:15pm

    @ Democritus
    Atheism is a religion for constitutional purposes. The government cannot endorse it under the First Amendment. More to the point, organized atheism is very much akin to the Muslim Brotherhood– they meet plot and attempt to intimidate individuals who don’t agree with their narrow world view. They also proselytize in schools and in the media.

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    • Porkchop_sw
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:22pm

      AMEN Brother!!

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    • democritusoilder267
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:25pm

      I respectfully disagree with your views on atheism and the Muslim Brotherhood.

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    • Rainman3769
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:28pm

      Yeah, so believers have NEVER intimidated those that disagree with them, never ever ever right? And wouldnt teaching intelligent design in school be the same thing as “prosyltizing?”

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    • Carter John
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:59pm

      Rainman
      Going off that so is the teaching if evolution. Why don’t we not teach ANY Beginning ideas at all?

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:12pm

      @Carter John, Evolution is part of modern scientific theory, if you stop teaching all or parts of it, you have a hard time teaching the other parts. I’ll bet you wonder why Americans are so bad at Science? When I was a teacher, I had a student tell me that he didn’t believe in DNA, he thought it was made up, oh and the school district had rules against using the dreaded “E” word.

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:21pm

      GOD created DNA.

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 4:01pm

      @bomustgo, And your point is what, exactly?

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    • BOMUSTGO
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 4:20pm

      This is what I am getting at….We are fearfully and wonderfully made by GOD..Psalms 139:14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.

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    • Rainman3769
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 5:22am

      Look at this way, at least the theory of evolution has some clear, irrefutable evidence one can point to to back it up. If you want creationism in school taught as an alternate, legitatimate way of explaining where we all came from, then you MUST add to that curriculum ALL of the other “origin stories” of all other religions and faiths throughout all of human history. Why you ask? Because unless your deliberate intention is to leave other possibilities out, you are not teaching objectively, and that is nothing short of indoctrination.

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    • Rainman3769
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 5:28am

      and yes, I realize that by my own words one might see the current system of NOT putting creationism in there as indoctrination too. So before someone blasts off on that, I will reinterate that evolution has proven facts that a teacher can point to and say, “this shows why this is correct.” Creationism does not.

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  • girlnurse
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:11pm

    Here is one test I would LOVE to flunk!

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  • ninja
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:01pm

    This government was designed for a Christian nation. To allow atheists to participate in government decisions guarantees failure, just as if you tried to run a gasoline engine on maple syrup. Atheists should not vote.

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    • DoseofReality
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:02pm

      so youwant to have a religious test for voting? Are you serious? Man, the stupiduty of people on this board really surprises me every day. How would you know if someone is lying? Should we be doing polygraphs at the voting booth?

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    • DoseofReality
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:04pm

      And if it was designed as a Christian nation – please tell me where Jesus’s name is mentioned in the declaration or the constitution. Ill be waiting…….

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    • ninja
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:08pm

      The men who designed our form of Government said so.
      A test? Why.not just ask at the polling booth? ……..cant atheists be trusted to tell the truth?

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    • ninja
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:10pm

      I’d suggest any atheists who like our form of government to voluntarily refrain voting. It’s only logical.

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    • DoseofReality
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:11pm

      Your an idiot

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:12pm

      Well it’s not mentioned in constitution, except in one line, ‘year of our Lord’.

      In Declaration, you might have forgotten, ‘endowed by our Creator’. Obama forgets that one too.

      But I’m sorry everyone has a right to vote, constitutution insures this right and there is not to be any discrimination based on religion, creed, race, gender, etc.

      It’s also very clear that there is not to be a religious test.

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    • ninja
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:16pm

      I may or may not be but that has no bearing on the truth of what I posted.

      The historical evidence is in………..the more atheists the worse this country has gotten.

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    • Rainman3769
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:21pm

      Atheists have always been around Ninja, its only that in recent history, the CHURCH no longer sanctions killing us as “heretics” Fortunatly, those dark days are behind us.

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    • ninja
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:26pm

      It was not specified in the Constitution……….but it was stated clearly by the men who wrote the Constitution. Yes, atheists have the Constitutional right to vote. Hopefully, they would have the sense to recognize ( by reading how & why the Constitution was written as it is and who it was written for ) that they are generally unfit to make the decisions necessary to keep this form of government alive. It would appear now that doseofreality has been made aware of this fact he hasnt the moral decency to refrain from voting……….once again proving the founding fathers right.

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    • COFemale
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:28pm

      Frankly, if we just bar Democrat, Liberal, Progressive from voting, this world would be a much better place. Boring, but better.

      However, we are a nation of laws and every U.S. citizen has the right to vote as long as you are of age, regardless of whether we like their political stance. I mean face it blacks had the right to vote before I did.

      If you are here legally, you are a citizen and 18 or older, vote away. That is what a REPUBLIC is all about. When you start denying the right to vote, that is a DEMOCRACY and you lose ALL FREEDOMS.

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    • DoseofReality
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:29pm

      Again, my only response to you will be this one again since there is no reason to argue or debate with you……Your an Idiot

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    • ninja
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:30pm

      there is a higher percentage of atheists in America now than 200 years ago

      as I previously stated, the country has gone down hill in relation to the increase of atheist citizens

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    • randerson503
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:30pm

      Actually there is no Constitutional right to vote in a federal election. Does not exist. There are voting rights granted by state constitutions for state and local elections, but nothing at the federal level.

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    • ninja
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:37pm

      “Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.”

      George Washington

      oh, and it’s “you’re an idiot”.

      sheesh.

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    • DoseofReality
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:38pm

      So you think people were generally better off 200 years ago then they are today? Guess that depends on how much melanin you have in your skin huh? What world are you living in?

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    • ninja
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:44pm

      The topic isnt about people being “better off” ………it’s about the relationship belief/nonbelief has on our form of government.

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    • DoseofReality
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:09pm

      So it doesnt matter if everyone is starving, if people are oppressed, if people are dying in the streets….as long as more people believe in jesus its a better society? never mind, your not an idiot, your insane

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    • HADEN0UGH
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:12pm

      Christianity is not a religion, it is an ideology. That is why dumb people are confused.

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 4:10pm

      @randerson503. I beg to differ with you, there is a right to vote in the Constitution. Behold, the 26th Amendment:

      Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.
      Section 2. The Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

      And religious tests are expressly forbidden by Article Six in the main body of the Constitution. James Madison, the principle author of the Constitution was an agnostic, if not an atheist. The only time his writing, always logical and measured, becomes the least bit heated is when he is writing about religious liberty and the freedom from religion. Try reading “James Madison: A Biography in His Own Words” if you don’t believe me.

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    • ninja
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 5:33pm

      I may be insane…………..I may be overweight……………I may be black………….but no matter how much you’d like to divert the topic the truth & wisdom of the founding fathers have been proven

      “It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible.”

      George Washington

      I’m not the one who came up with this type of government . I’m not the one who designed it. I’m not the one who wrote it . Dont like it? Fine. Point out where I’m factually wrong or take it up with George & T.J & the rest of the founding fathers.

      No offense meant but you sound like a stereotypical atheist.

      there’s a doseofreality for you

      .

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    • HOGWILD82
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 5:47pm

      I am a Christian but I do not believe it is right that atheists can’t vote. What kind of world to we live in where we single people out? The Christians do it, the atheists do it. I don’t understand why there has to be such hate from both sides. Christians, how good of an example are we setting by being hateful to someone who does not share the same beliefs as we do? We should be ashamed of ourselves. We don’t want the athiests hating us because we are Christians, so why should we hate them because they do not believe the same as we do? I pray for non believers not tear them down. WWJD!-He wouldn’t hate the non believers, that’s for sure!

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    • ninja
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 7:00pm

      “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

      John Adams

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    • ninja
      Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:07am

      Hogwild82:

      doseofreality may or may not hate Christians but that has nothing to do with the topic.

      Please focus.

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  • jimay
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:53pm

    Secluarism, Atheism, Progressiveism in O-ba-ma-ville are all replacement religions founded on the belief that the government is the singular force for good in the world and that thinking which is incompatible with government progress must be avoided. They have their own liturgy, catechism and apologists. You see the scorecard in the article. Is this really news?

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    • DoseofReality
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:59pm

      Im an agnostic and in no way do I feel that government is the solution to most problems. I want the government to stay out of my life, just like I dont want (or need) religion in my life. There goes your theory.

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    • COFemale
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:33pm

      Yeah, Dose you get back to us when your life hangs in the balance and then tell us you don‘t need or won’t call out to God. Maybe you will be lucky and someone in your family will act on your behalf.

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    • DoseofReality
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:41pm

      Im not scared of death, obvioulsy you are….

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    • OKLAPatriot
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 4:16pm

      I’m Republican, conservative, straight, honest, compassionate, and agnostic. Why does religion, or the lack of it, make any difference to anyone? Human animals, as a whole, are violent, self serving, and selfish. The only thing that sepeates us from other animals is intelligence. There might be a supreme being, but I’d have to see it to believe it.

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  • RayOne
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:49pm

    Atheists stand under their own religious banner.
    When they demand a banner less world, they demand that their flag be raised higher.
    They share this with the m.Brotherhood.

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    • democritusoilder267
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:56pm

      Atheism is not a religion. How can atheism be related to Islam or government. Any individual can be an atheist.

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    • tzion
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:34pm

      Atheism is founded on the core belief that G-d doesn’t exist. Since it has a core belief, it either is a religion or is similar enough to be compared to one. After all, every religion requires a leap of faith just like Atheism. If you believe G-d doesn’t exist without proof, you are taking a leap of faith.

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  • Ojebuss
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:49pm

    Looks like Huntsman is getting their vote.

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  • million
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:46pm

    How about that, the left finally found a topic where the subject matter allows them to give Obama exellent grade across the board and actually be telling the truth. Sadly the devil is in the details.

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  • Watcher1952
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:40pm

    RainMan…. My hat is off to you for your beliefs, however if you look at the above grades where most non believers rate OBAMA this is a case of quilt by association. You are an exception to the normal…… I am not a church goer……and I am not an Atheist either I do believe that your thoughts and beliefs are yours (speaking in general) please keep them to yourself……unless of course you are around those that think the way you do and want to talk about it

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    • Rainman3769
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:35pm

      And your thoughts are your own as well. That didnt stop you from expressing yourself did it? Nor will it I. With the exception of my non-belief I agree with many facets of the Right, so really I AM with people who feel as I do.

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  • democritusoilder267
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:33pm

    As a deist I cannot say I agree with every atheist. However, I will elect a president who will respect the beliefs of anyone.

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    • NOBAMA201258
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:14pm

      Hey Democrit,you mean one who panders to every group he possibly can? You must be an obamanation fan

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    • democritusoilder267
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:24pm

      No, you’re incorrect about Deism. As a Deism I believe in a God; but I do not believe in miracles and prophecy. Deist believe in reason and logic.

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  • momrules
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:33pm

    I will never knowingly vote for an atheist for any office. I will, however, look twice at the candidates that they dislike because of their Christian values.

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  • Romney-Rubio 2012
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:32pm

    Could it be that Romney is a ‘True Conservative’?

    The religious right, which I am part of, needs to give Romney a chance. He has a great record on abortion (yes, really) and traditional marriage (again, really). He has fought for life, since his ‘true’ conversion (as put by Cardinal O’Malley in a Massachusetts diocese).

    Romney worked with Conservative Faith-Based leaders whenever a social issues came across his desk. There are two videos put out by a group that has been touted by someone on this site that really made me question what I had heard about Romney. They claim to be a Tea Party group and I take them at their word. Their site is http://www.TeaPartyForRomney.com. They give dozens of sources and this will make you question everything you have heard about him from the liberal media. Check it out.

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  • pjmarshake
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:28pm

    Yawn…. This might mean something to the ‘collective;’ To me, not so much.

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  • maccow
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:24pm

    Almost all “F”s for Santorum. Thanks SCA I know who’s getting my vote.
    Any party or candidate that starts pandering to the minuscule godless demographic losses my support.

    Jesus gives us a precursor to the end times to watch fore.
    Matthew 24:12 “And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.”

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    • Baaarb
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:34pm

      I agree.

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    • Lucy Larue
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:37pm

      MACCOW,
      Actually Gingrich and Perry scored the same as Santorum.
      OKAY…,three good choices for the Republican nominee.
      Merci SCA!

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  • hersey10
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:18pm

    Who wants to bet , this group is funded by that old wrinkly spooky dude .

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  • bankerpapaw
    Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:11pm

    Who really cares what an atheist thinks? They are so full of hate they don’t believe in anything anyway.

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    • Rainman3769
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:25pm

      Im an atheist Bankerpapa, Im not full of hate. I think everyone should be free to believe what they want, mind that they keep it away from me when i dont want it. I consider myself of the Right and yet it astounds me how virulent people here on the Blaze get when it comes to those that dont believe. I see the left for what it is, and therefore SOME GOP candidate is getting my vote, havent decided quite who yet. So what i think DOES matter.

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:39pm

      I am anti- Big Gov. I believe that everyone should believe what they want , mind that they stay out of my wallet when I don‘t want my earnings stolen from me when I don’t want it. I see DEMOCRAT‘s as theives and it astounds me when it comes to DEMOCRAT’s that force themselves into my bank account. But to DEMOCRAT’s they could give a rats a55 what I think.

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    • DoseofReality
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:54pm

      Banker – your an idiot. im a conservative who will be voting republican, but Im not a believer. if thats what you want to believe, more power to you….but dont say Im full of hate. If anything, the more hateful posts on this board come from believers. Please think before you speak……

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    • Conservative_Atheist
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 4:12pm

      The hate is coming from those believers posting on this site. I’m not telling you what to believe or how to worship. I don’t mind a President saying “God bless”. If I’m speaking to a group of mostly religious, I would say “God bless” also. If they are good people and believe in God I would hope their God, if he existed, would bless them. I‘m so sick of people telling me that I’m a bad person because I don’t believe in God. I see no evidence of him and that voice in my head is my own. I give to charities (even religious charities), hold the door for old women, take care of my family, and have values that most “Christians” would say they have. So stop hating me because I don’t agree with you on one thing. We agree on almost everything else.

      Personally, I don’t even discard God or Creator as a possibility. I just feel like God and even the Big Bang theory is an attempt by man to explain something that we lack the facts to definitively explain. Once you can prove to me God exists beyond an old book written by men, you will have another convert.

      Also, wouldn’t you guys agree that Liberals corrupt everything? Atheism from the mouth of a Liberal does not represent my view point. I would think you would say the same for Christianity out of the mouth of a Liberal.

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on January 6, 2012 at 4:19pm

      @13thImam, I see people like you as “free riders”. You’re willing to ride on the roads, accept the prortection of police,fire department and military, send your children to public schools, take your mail out of the box,flush your toilet, and send off your trash but you don’t want to pay for it. You want other people to pay for themselves and you, too, I guess. Oh, and my experience, free riders are the first people to squeal when they don’t get what they want from the government in services.

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