How Did the ‘Project Gunrunner’ Hearing on Capitol Hill Go Today?
- Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:05pm by
Billy Hallowell
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WASHINGTON (The Blaze/AP) — Three federal firearms investigators told a House committee on Wednesday that they were repeatedly ordered to step aside while gun buyers in Arizona walked away with AK-47s and other high-powered weaponry headed for Mexican drug cartels in a risky U.S. law enforcement operation that went out of control.
Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., said leaders of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives were fully aware of the details of Operation Fast and Furious, which was designed to track small-time gun buyers to major weapons traffickers along the Southwest border.
Earlier today, Issa also leaked e-mails that showcase that the head of America’s national firearms law enforcement agency was involved in the gun program as early as March 2010. The messages seemed to contradict previous claims that AFT did not actively sell to known criminals and that the agency worked to ensure that U.S. weapons did not end up in Mexico.
One of the e-mails that was sent on March 10, 2010 by the assistant special agent overseeing Phoenix field operations to the head of the “Fast and Furious” program, seems to corroborate this notion. It reads:
“Not sure if you know, but Mr. Melson [ATF acting director] and Mr. Hoover are being briefed weekly on this investigation and the recent success with [redacted] so they are both keenly interested in case updates.”
At a hearing before the Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which Issa chairs, Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa said “hundreds upon hundreds of weapons” destined for cartels in Mexico were purchased in Arizona gun shops. Below, watch opening statements from today’s hearing:
The operation was designed to respond to criticism that the agency had focused on small-time gun arrests while major traffickers eluded prosecution. Back in February, CBS News first covered the initiative, writing:
“Project Gunrunner” deployed new teams of agents to the southwest border. The idea: to stop the flow of weapons from the US to Mexico’s drug cartels. But in practice, sources tell CBS News, ATF’s actions had the opposite result: they allegedly facilitated the delivery of thousands of guns into criminal hands.
The Blaze also covered this story back in April. For a more concise understanding about the project’s original intended goals, Newsmax writes:
The goal of the the controversial “Project Gunrunner” and “Operation Fast and Furious” programs was to use serial numbers on weapons sold to “straw purchasers,” who planned to resell the guns to the drug cartels, to trace the weapons after Mexican police apprehended them later at crime scenes.
Below, watch Sen. Grassley discuss his testimony at the hearing in an interview with FOX News:
Operation Fast and Furious came to light after two assault rifles purchased by a now-indicted small-time buyer under scrutiny in the operation turned up at the scene of a shootout in Arizona where Customs and Border Protection agent Brian Terry was killed.
“We ask that if a government official made a wrong decision that they admit their error and take responsibility for his or her actions,” Robert Heyer, the slain agent’s cousin, told the committee. “We hope that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms is forthcoming with all information” Congress is seeking.
Issa berated one witness, Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich, because the Justice Department – of which ATF is a component – has not turned over documents that Issa wants. Weich said the department is providing documents to the congressional panel on an ongoing basis. The congressman demanded to know who at the Justice Department authorized Operation Fast and Furious. Weich said that question is the subject of an inquiry by the department’s inspector general.
John Dodson, an ATF agent who complained about Fast and Furious to Grassley’s office, told the committee that “although my instincts made me want to intervene and interdict these weapons, my supervisors directed me and my colleagues not to make any stop or arrest, but rather, to keep the straw purchaser under surveillance while allowing the guns to walk.”
“Allowing loads of weapons that we knew to be destined for criminals – this was the plan,” said Dodson. “It was so mandated.”
In one case, Dodson said, he watched a suspect receive a bag filled with cash from a third party, then proceed to a gun dealer and buy weapons with that cash and deliver them to the same unidentified third party. In that and other circumstances, his instructions were to do nothing.
“Surveillance operations like this were the rule, not the exception,” said Dodson. “This was not a matter of weapons getting away from us, or allowing a few to walk so as to follow them to a much larger or more significant target.”
ATF agent Olindo James Casa said that “on several occasions I personally requested to interdict or seize firearms, but I was always ordered to stand down and not to seize the firearms.”
“We were told to just fall in line,” said Casa.
On many occasions, “the surveillance team followed straw purchasers to Phoenix area firearms dealers and would observe the straw purchasers buy and then depart with numerous firearms in hand,” said Casa. “On many of those occasions, the surveillance team would then follow the straw purchasers either to a residence, a public location or until the surveillance team was spotted by the straw purchasers. But the end result was always the same – the surveillance was terminated” by others up the chain of command.
ATF agent Peter Forcelli said that “when I voiced surprise and concern with this tactic … my concerns were dismissed” by superiors.
“To allow a gun to walk is idiotic,” said Forcelli. “This was a catastrophic disaster.”
Forcelli said that “based upon my conversations with agents who assisted in this case, surveillance on individuals who had acquired weapons was often terminated far from the Mexican border.” He said that while case agents believed that the weapons were destined for Mexico, “the potential exists that many were sent with cartel drugs to other points within the United States.
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Comments (216)
Gail_B_Bell
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:50pmIs is just me or, perhaps Representative Issa should consider running for president~!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:50pmWhat CRISCO34 said.
TEA!
Report Post »NOKOOLAIDDRINKER
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:48pmWTF? I see deeper more draconian reasons for this op. Question the 2nd amendment? Do away with it? Remember — never let a crisis go to waste! GUN CONTROL the last piece of the rule for radicals/socialists! NEVER NEVER NEVER LET THAT HAPPEN!!! Or we are all DOOMED TO SERFDOM OR DEATH!!!
Report Post »nomercy63
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:46pmTime to hold al the people in Washington no matter who they are accountable!! That means long,long prison sentences!!!!
Report Post »republapig
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:55pmRight on! Or maybe we need a French revolution.
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 9:38pmMoochelle can yell “Let them eat cake”!
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 12:22amDidn’t BO just by a huge prison just outside Chicago, probably digging tunnels under it as we write! We‘d have to make sure the guards and administration aren’t UNION !!!
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:43pmMichelle Malkin did a great piece on this back in April 2011 http://michellemalkin.com/2011/05/04/project-gunrunner-update-the-fit-hits-the-shan/
Report Post »randy
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:48pmWow! Back in April…….. Am I crazy or does that seem soooooooooooooo long ago?
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:43pmhttp://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/mexico-troops-seize-3rd-971544.html
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:42pmSo the truth is finally known and open to all to see the ugliness of in its fullest; now will anytthing actually be done about it – and will the real crooks face charges over it and jail time as well.
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 12:54amSNOW
Report Post »I’m sure some low level sap will be left standing when the music stops.
13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 2:15amWhat? You mean the NRA for fighting so that anyone can go to a Gun Show and purchase a Gun without a background check?
Thats what Obama is trying to stop but the NRA and you baggers won’t let him. God read the story
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 3:14amThat‘s the problem nonAmerican when you’re on crack and meth you can’t read straight. Oh, we are well aware that the democraps have been trying to start WWIII for a long time, but that’s not what this story is about, at least not out front. Just a guess, but they’ll probably eventually get the war.
What’s a ******, a queer? Sounds like a queer, and that’s a democrap constituency.
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:42pmThe real reason for this “operation”???? GUN CONTROL. March 2009 http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-03-18-cartelguns_N.htm
Report Post »seethelite
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 9:16pmnice thread i did not see this in 2009 everyone should read this AAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 11:39pmMurder ! Omama!
Report Post »TMan2020
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:39pmHolder should be fired and prosecuted for the crimes of illegal gun running and conspiring to commit murder (due to all the deaths related to those same weapons).
Report Post »PrfctlyFrank
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 10:25pmDon’t worry about holder.. When a law passes making racist stupidity and white envy a crime he’ll be the first one to go.. Followed by Mrs. obama..
Report Post »MiketheTrucker
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:38pmWhen we eventually get to “the top” person(s) who ordered this idiocy they should hang for treason!!!
Report Post »FLyoverman
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:36pmWho signed the authorization order? Stick the head of ATF under oath and grill him until he breaks. You know darned well it came from 1600 Pensylvania Ave.
Report Post »republapig
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:44pmYeah! and if he won’t talk, waterboard him!
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 9:25pmAnd if that doesn’t work……a nice length of hemp with thirteen loops of liberation will finish the job.
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:34pmBreaking the law to uphold the law? How nice. Blame ATF if you like, but remember, ATF serves the Executive Branch. That would be President Barack Obama. Rules mean nothing to this administration because they are so much smarter than the rest of US. DO AS WE SAY, NOT AS WE DO!
Report Post »bigtruck1956
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:33pmLet’s not kid ourselves. The true purpose of operation gunrunner was to create a Fultz son Mario in which those opposing Second Amendment and our gun rights could claim that we are the evil United States where all of the guns going to Mexico are coming from unabated. By creating this false scenario those opposing gun rights could then use the thoughts statistics that they would gather from this against proud Americans who do believe in Second Amendment rights. Where exactly are all the crazies they were in constant protest when President Bush was in office. No antiwar, no anti-torture, no anti-gun, no anti-anything really even though Obama is just Bush on steroids.
http://rustyspostweekly.com/index.html
Report Post »CynterMass
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 11:22pmI agree with your assessment. You are right about the true purpose of this operation.
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:30pmBATF Officials told agents to “stand down” from arresting higher ups. This whole “project” wreaks from the top down.
Report Post »republapig
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:41pmTED! Glad to see you again! I sure miss the good old days when a powerful Dimocrat could just dump his problems in the back seat of a car and push it off a Chappaquiddick bridge! Anyway, I think you meant “reeks”.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 12:15am@teddrunk
Report Post »Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:30pm
BATF Officials told agents to “stand down” from arresting higher ups. This whole “project” wreaks from the top down.
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You’re just getting a small whiff of “THAT DIRTY LITTLE CESSPOOL ON THE POTOMOC !!!“ Send in ”the Cleaning Ladies! ” Palin / Bachmann 2012
angelcat
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:30pmHad this been Bush, the “Bush murders U.S. citizen” rallies would already be in progress as would the calls for his resignation or impeachment. We are hearing little of this in the mainstream media because this is something that could cause even the mind-numbed Obama voters to get angry since they could be shot as dead as anyone else. It is possible that this will be one of several straws that wilil break the camel”s (Obama) back if Issa can’t be shut down. I bet the Dem machine is busily looking for dirt on Issa or trying to figure out what lies might be believed so he can be discredited and stopped.
Report Post »PrfctlyFrank
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 9:21pmAnd since the neighborhoods where obama still has the minds and hearts of the people with him, is most likely where illegal weapons are going to be used, he’s safe for now..
Report Post »frustratedwithgovt
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:27pmThats just crazy – first the Dept of Ed sends in swat for a student loan and now we actively allow weapons to go to known criminals. Oh yeah, lets not forget that the UN wants to ban small arms in the US – wtf
Report Post »gemologist
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:27pmLook, it’s all about giving the guns to those you want to have them, and restricting access to those you don’t want to have them. Am I jaded? Yup and at age 31 I am gonna be REALLY jaded when I get to the average age of a GB listener.
Report Post »NOKOOLAIDDRINKER
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:52pmNo GEMOLOGIST your just recognizing the truth! NEVER trust this administration!
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 10:48pmthe group that Beck reaches has been, is , and will continue to grow. talk the truth people are attracted; then show the truth in an easy no agenda fashion and watch them light up!
Report Post »31 eh.. you are probably on the low side of average, common sense sets in in your late twenties; then you find the truth. welcome
chimneyguy
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 11:23pmIf you’re not a lib at 20, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative at 40, you have no brain!
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 11:46pm@chimneyguy
Report Post »Posted on June 15, 2011 at 11:23pm
If you’re not a lib at 20, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative at 40, you have no brain!
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If you don’t like TEA after 2 yrs of Obama, you have no hope!
Sgt.Murph
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:27pmFor unrest to ensue, the left must be armed. Take care Texas and Arizona!
Report Post »TROLLINGTHEVOID
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 11:10pmArizona is ready…we have been ready…
Report Post »betterthantv
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:26pmIs there anybody in this administration that knows what they are doing?
Report Post »MiketheTrucker
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:42pmThey know exactly what they’re doing—–that’s the problem.
Report Post »NOKOOLAIDDRINKER
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:49pmDITTO to MIKE!!!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:51pmLOL .. not from what I have seen BETTERTHANTV …
TEA!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:56pmThey should be doing it more “covertly” … they are so obvious . .the only ones who don‘t seem to get it or care are the RINO’s in Congress.
TEA!
Report Post »Sam Brown
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 9:46pmYes they knew what they were doing. They were running American guns to the cartels then finding the guns used in crimes. The guns then found were a photo op for more gun control. It was a plan for more gun controls. So far they have killed more than 150 people with this plot and nobody has gone to jail. Progressive democrat corruption.
Sam
Report Post »Bald1
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 10:05pmDitto Mike! It sure is interesting NOW, looking back at the press conference where Hillary and Obama were telling us we needed gun control…because a majority of the weapons in Mexico came from the US…could it be they sent them…sure looks like it.
They will do anything to take our 2nd Amendment rights away…really ANY of our Rights!
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 11:05pmThey do know what they doing! Under President Barack Obama, the agency not only allowed the illegal sale of American guns but also allowed them to leave the United States and fall into cartel hands. Obama, Hillary and the Mexican President called for a gun ban because US guns were being used in Mexican drug dealers and they did this long before this story broke. He did this just so he could impose a gun ban. Murder 1 Obama, you cost a border agent his life
Report Post »PunditPawn
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:23pmBut, what about ‘hope’ and ‘change’? Yea, I know. Sick campaign slogan.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 11:40pmRe :But, what about ‘hope’ and ‘change’?
Report Post »*****
We hope if we give them the guns, they’ll change their minds and not shoot anyone with them!
Live_Free_orDie
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:20pmShut down the BATF now…. and ask Hillary Clinton and Greta Van Sustern (sp?)…What they think about illegal guns in Mexico now!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »republapig
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 9:05pmJust curious, why are grouping Greta with Hillarity? Greta is a conservative.
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 9:23pmGreta is, was, and always will be a lib. She is able to couch it to be fair, but it shines through every now and again.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 11:36pm@republapig
Report Post »Posted on June 15, 2011 at 9:05pm
Just curious, why are grouping Greta with Hillarity? Greta is a conservative.
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The exact same type as the Repub establishment! I’d agree, you must not have watched a Hillary interview by Greta, she nearly swoons, when Hillary speaks. NOT A VERY CONSERVATIVE QUALITY !
Viet Vet
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 3:27amYes, at best Geta is a liberal republican.
Report Post »80mesh
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:20pmcircle the wagons and fire inwards…..
obongo coulda just sent mexico the 1 million US made M1 garands that were lent to Korea and he denied repatriation of those rifles back to US soil.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 3:24amYeah, the no good son o f a b itch!!
Report Post »Texas Grasshopper
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 10:23amwhat happened to those rifles ? they still over in Korea ?
Report Post »republapig
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:19pmIt’s OK, BamBam will make a joke about it, and then let another half million of his constituents, or “illegal aliens” as we Rethuglicans call them, across the border. Because after all, “They yust want yobs”.
Report Post »Dont-hate-on-me-2
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 10:36pmwhat do you think the joke will be… we sold them the guns but not the ammo they used to kill americans wit.
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 12:51amThis operation has all the intelligence of one hatched by the drug cartel customers!! Dumb and Dumber doesn’t even describe!
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 2:09amHey geniuses, these guns were bought legally at gun shows by Americans without a background check. That’s the problem
Report Post »randy
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:18pmObama allowed guns to be sold to Mexicans to murder Americans. This alone should be enough to try the SOB, find him guilty and toss his sorry A$$ in jail.
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:43pmJail is FAR too good for that pig.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 10:55pmI hate to be the one to break the news to you, but most of the Law Enforcement Departments are controlled by corrupt politicians that intend to promote a government agenda.
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 11:13pmI agree with you Randy,Obama needs to be impeached,,type in impeach Obama and sign the petition,not sure if it will actually do any good but worth a shot anyway
Report Post »EL ZORRO
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 11:53pm[QUOTE]The goal of the the controversial “Project Gunrunner” and “Operation Fast and Furious” programs was to use serial numbers on weapons sold to “straw purchasers,” who planned to resell the guns to the drug cartels, to trace the weapons after Mexican police apprehended them later at crime scenes.[/QUOTE]
Report Post »This is a well planed operation by Cass Sunstein with the complete consent of the White House, to pass laws confiscating all guns, this is the most EVIL PRESIDENT EVER, HE GOT BLOD IN HIS HANDS. IMPEACH OBAMA
EL ZORRO
Jedrin
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 1:39amremember the stat of 90% of guns used in Mexican crime came from the US? It was true after all – the ATF sold them to the criminal and now the US citizen needs to be punished by stopping all gun sales. False Flag if ever there was one, only problem is both sides are the Stars and Stripes.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 3:46amJedrin, the problem for Obumer and the criminal Holder, and democraps in general, is that a study put the lie to their..um..lies, and found that it was actually only 17% of the guns confiscated by mexican authorities were traceable to the U.S. So Project Gunrunner, was devised to rectify that little inequity.
Report Post »StonyBurk
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 8:39amRandy we need to insist Congress be reminded that the network news broadcast back when the 0 and his minions had the Mexican -El Presidente up to tell Congress that American guns being sold to the
Report Post »Mexican cartels was the reason–not the corruption in the Mexican govt. Seems now there are whistle
blowers (maybe from that State this President sued -Az.? ) who have told Congress Our own govt. is the one selling American guns to the the Cartels.IMO everybody in those early photos claiming it was Americans selling guns to the drug runners is a person of interest in the quest to find out who in this
administration authorized this mess. Can anyone in Obamaland spell scapegoat?
cheezwhiz
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:17pm“the potential exists that many were sent with cartel drugs to other points within the United States.
Report Post »————–
but I’m pretty sure NONE of these guns ended up in the hands of alqaeda…you know since they are never looking for fancy guns and that there are no alqaeda-7 working in the Department Of Jihad.
Right Erica ?
Gail_B_Bell
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:51pmIf I correctly understand you, you are a deep thinker, that is for Sure!
Report Post »Gail_B_Bell
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:52pmBTW, do you admire liquid cheeses? I sure do! Pleased to meet you!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 9:39pmIn answer to your posting:
None going to Al Quaeda? Probably, as you do note, they have in part or to allied band of terrorists already setting up operations in the area of Mexico. Recall the finding of a book of Martyrs and such in the southern AZ border and reports of Hamas being there as well?
Also, was there not mentioned before this thing broke wide open the story of these gun store owners being targeted for making the very same sales they were pressured into doing by the ATF- DOJ?
Report Post »mill
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 10:53pmwell, there is surely a need for medical marijuana at this hearing….the Obama people have a real problem and are probably in pain as it appears somebody has put their ******** where their brains should be..
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 11:19pmI think one of the things that really disturbs me is HILARY and the MEXICAN PRESIDENT blaming the average American citizen for selling guns to the cartels.. and acted like the gun shops were selling these guns KNOWING the guns were going to MEXICO.. when the FACT is that the gun shops were cooperating with the request of the GOVERNMENT … I take offense in being a fall guy for the GOVERNMENTS POOR JUDGEMENT..to having AMERICAN’S look like they are bad people.. and for Obama and Holder to pretend they knew NOTHING.. and to continue to pretend it’s no big deal.. they owe ALL AMERICAN’S an appology for using them in such a manner.. as well as to the families that lost loved ones on BOTH sides the border.. and to the border agent who lost his life because of their inability to act as ADULTS.. EVEN when the facts came out and to take responsibility.. I don’t know how much more of this the AMERICAN people can take before they march to Washington with torches and pitchforks..
Report Post »SavingtheRepublic.com
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 12:11am^____^____^
Holder MUST GO!
Lets all get something clear… this operation was to boost the numbers or crimes committed etc etc to indirectly go after anyone pro-gun (from the dealers to the owners). They tried about 2 years ago to make up the narrative about too many guns going into Mexico and when the facts came out they were blasted for it. Gunrunner was to make those fake numbers a reality.
This regime wants to reign in the 2nd amendment and BHO will never do it directly. Remember what he said not too long ago about doing things beneath the radar. Gunrunner was in fact IMO part of that plan.
One way or another he will do whatever is necessary to restrict gun owners that you will have to have them locked up inside your own house where the only time you may unlock them is when your life is directly threatened. Mind you the ammo you want to put it in will probably be triple or quadruple in price along with massive taxes and fees to own a gun via Cass Sunstein regs.
Report Post »Texas Grasshopper
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 12:12amhey ATF ..how about passing those weopans to Americans Citizens to protect ourselves from the one you passed out to foriegn nationals abd drug cartels …?
Report Post »Joey8
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 12:53amthis is one of the reasons I cant get an AR for less than 800
Report Post »Jedrin
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 1:36amThis was a law enforcement action. The cops are always right. Beat down a 14 year old girl or give guns to criminal. Don’t talk down the cops or you will get what you deserve. Law and order. Obey the law and shut up.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 2:34amDisgusting, this administration thinks they are above the law, they have a rude awakening coming. Just imagine what other nefarious things are happening to try and take our gun rights away?, this is just one that was caught. There better be some serious repercussions for this blatant attempt at deception and Holder better be one them to do time, tired of this assault on Americans from un-American liberal pukes that would like nothing more than to see our country destroyed, not on my watch. Semper Fi.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 2:47am@Gail_B_Bell
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 8:51pm
If I correctly understand you, you are a deep thinker, that is for Sure!
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Gail, if you are new here (and I don’t remember seeing your name before), meet Cheez, one of the brightest bulbs in the Blaze chandelier! Don’t know how (s)he does it, but (s)he hits the bull’s eye every time and without hesitation.
That widdle wabbit with its menacing laid-back ears is Cheez’s personality:
Quiet, but goes right for the carrot — and , it’s done!
@Cheez ~ Nice chomp!
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 3:03am@independentvoteril
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 11:19pm
I agree with you!
And everybody’s screaming for WHOM to resign?
Anthony Weiner! All he did was show his junk. That didn‘t endanger anyone’s life.
You know what they say: “Top down, bottom up, inside out!”
What was Holder’s reaction when they discovered it was a ATF gunner run that killed ICE Agent Brian Terry? Did you hear anything out of Janet Napolitano either? Did you hear anything from Barack X? NO! They all knew it from at least March 10, 2010, according to the email mentioned above.
The entire administration should be arrested!
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 3:35amindependentvoteril, with communists, the ends justify the means, always. Remember that when Stalin was purposely starving the Ukrainian people to death, and using show trials to justify the purges, the left in this country first denied it, but when they could no longer do that, they became apologists for Soviet communism and begin justifying it, writing that it was something that had to be done, for the furtherance of communism. The left is just plain EVIL. There is no softer way of stating it.
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 4:57amWe are long past the proverbial “straw that broke the camel’s back.” Obama is hanging in there only with the help of the idiocy/corruption of the MSM. He loses but one MSM outlet, others will follow as the public gets educated and tuned into the truth about this WH. David Gregory practically laughed off Debbie Schultz’s economic talking points last Sunday on Meet the Press. A very little bit more and Obama is toast.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 7:58amWell I see you have done quite your share of thinking. There is definitely a lot of sense to what you said. It almost seems as if to make our laws and methods in the U.S look incompetent, and it has a putrid odor of the International Small Arms treaty all over it. I would like to add: maybe if the government and the BATF is made incompetent, there is more of a reason for the U.N to come into the U.S to regulate small arms. Perhaps?
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 9:36amHere’s your proof, and here’s your terrorists.
The Federal Government.
Report Post »ManThong
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 9:39amThis is the same crew that is weaseling to get billions of dollars and Big Brother control to “protect” the Internet.
Expect similar results.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 10:03amThis was an attempted attack on the 2cd Amendment these illegal gun sales would have been used to tighten up Gun laws IF THE TRUTH HADN’T GOT OUT. They are fooling themselves if they think for a second that America will disarm wie‘already have a dictator who thinks he has the authory to allocate America’s military without congressional approval at the beheist of foriegn nations. What will he think next take control of the populus through military action when the chaos that he and his liberal fiends fostered insues in this nation. It ain’t happening and the right to bare arms is an inalienable right. FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS
Report Post »Opinionmonger
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 10:15amThe ONLY thing they want is to DISARM The People!
Report Post »First they will mandate registration of all guns en then confiscating all of them.
Then, you too wil be slaves like allmost the rest of the world allready is.
Beware of that future.
Texas Grasshopper
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 10:27am1) all Legislation must cite justification from the Constitution ( State or Federal ) and cite Jurisdiction .
Report Post »2) demand for an immediate reaffirmation to the Offices of ALL public Officials to the US Constitution, their State Constitutions and their Oath of Office .
3) Failure to do so is removal of office, failure to sopport the state and US Constitution demands a recall vote
4) eliminate the naming of Buildings by Congress ..the roads , special days and all the frivolous things Lawmakers are doing must cease immediately . It is a distraction that impedes accountability to the Citizens .
5) That the States a Plan and Implement a Policy that enable States to function with out direct help from the Federal Government . Increasing Border Security ( there are alot of ways to get this done within a budget ) Natural Resources , Manufacturing , Economic and Fiscal Responsibility in all areas of Gov. form Local to State . Recent Fire and TSA threats reinforce that concept . Turn to Churches, neighbors and a“ Mutual Aid” Concept to overcome any disasters
cemerius
Posted on June 16, 2011 at 10:58am@independentvoteril
I agree!! Don’t hold your breath on a “politician” taking responsibility!! They will find a low level flunkie they can get to do it…….
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