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How Long Has Obama Been Fighting With Catholics? Consider the History

This week‘s announcement of the State Department’s placing the Vatican on a money laundering “Watch List” raised many questions about this Administration and what appears to be an ongoing battle with the Catholic Church.

Is this a new fight? Not really. The Democrats let Conservative Catholics know where they stood back in 2008.

As the political party was preparing to gather in Denver in order to formalize the nomination of Barack Obama, Democrats chose not to invite  the Catholic leader of the host city. Archbishop Charles Chaput (a staunch defender of the unborn and now presiding over the Philadelphia diocese) was not on the list of Catholics who would be leading prayers before and during the convention. There were some prominent, liberal Catholic names on the schedule: Sister Helen Prejean of “Dead Man Walking” fame and Social Justice lobbyist Sister Catherine Pinkerton got an invite.

Archbishop Chaput was eventually offered a couple of tickets to watch the convention from the cheap seats. According to news reports, the Archbishop did not attend the convention’s opening night and the Democrats reported he chose to reject their ticket offer. The reality: instead of sitting in the bleachers and watching Liberal Catholics from outside of his diocese deliver the invocation, Chaput and Dr. Alveda King led a pro-life prayer vigil at Martin Luther King Park in Denver.

But the snubbing didn’t end there. Catholic faith leaders were also absent from the president’s inauguration — they were not invited. Not a single member of the Catholic clergy was asked to be part of the swearing-in ceremonies. There were some faith leaders that were part of Obama’s inauguration to be sure. The Evangelical Pastor Rick Warren (who since has supported Catholics over the Obamacare / HHS Mandate), gay Episcopalian bishop Gene Robinson, and Protestant minister Joseph Lowery from the Southern Christian Leadership Conference were all part of the historic moment. Dr. Lowery delivered the emotional (if not very unique) invocation:

There was faith diversity on the podium at the Inauguration — just no Catholics.

Why were no conservative Catholics invited to the Democratic convention in Denver and not a single Catholic faith leader included in the President’s inauguration?

The reasons may go back to the summer of 2007 when then-Senator (and candidate) Barack Obama made a pledge to Planned Parenthood concerning his first act as President:

Obama pledged his allegiance to Planned Parenthood:  “I‘m absolutely convinced that we’re not just gonna win an election, but more importantly, we’re gonna transform this nation.”

Fast-forward to April 29th of 2009 when the President was forced to address his unfulfilled promise to Planned Parenthood, stating that passing the Freedom of Choice Act was not the “highest legislative priority.” It is also worth noting that Senator Obama was a co-sponsor of the Senate version of the bill.

Rewind to 2008 and the Denver snub. After securing enough delegates to win his party’s nomination, Obama and the Democrats proceeded to build their platform for the coming election. In August of 2008, they were adding some teeth to their platform planks, especially in the pro-choice arena. According to a report by Austin Ruse of TheCatholicThing.org:

The new plank talks about supporting Roe in addition to supporting a distinct and potentially broader “woman’s right to choose safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay.”

Mr. Ruse continues:

“it also calls for the adoption of the Freedom of Choice Act, a scurrilous measure co-sponsored by Senator Obama which may escape the notice of those who do not know its details. In it, you will find things like the requirement that government not “discriminate” against abortion in the “provision of benefits” or “information.” Remember Rust v. Sullivan? That was the case affirming the government’s right to favor childbirth over abortion in its funding decisions. The Democrat plank would overturn Rust and require that even programs for adoption and parenting promote abortion.”

With the major planks of the Obama election platform including aggressive pro-abortion language, it is doubtful that the Democrats would invite a staunch pro-lifer like Archbishop Chaput to speak or pray at their convention. Dems certainly wanted to avoid a situation like the one that happened in 2000 when their convention was held in Los Angeles. It was in L.A. that Catholic Cardinal Mahony was invited to address the Democrats and he delivered the following invocation:

“O God, we trust that you will keep us ever committed to protect the life and well-being of all people but especially unborn children, the sick and the elderly, those on skid row and those on death row.”

It would seem that the current squabbles between the Obama Administration and the Catholic Church are not something born after the passage of the “Affordable Care Act.” Just last week The Blaze reported on Cardinal Dolan’s letter that revealed the administration’s lectures to Catholic Bishops instructing them to listen to “enlightened” voices of accommodation. However, the roots of this fight go back at least five years to 2007 and they are ongoing. The big question is how much longer will it continue?

A hat tip to Michael Voris of “The Vortex.” Three years ago, he noted that President Obama has a history of fighting against the more conservative wing of the Roman Catholic Church.

 

Comments (175)

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  • MONICNE
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:04am

    Glen says, “We must stand with Catholics, We are all Catholic now!”

    If we let the media continue to exploit stories about the Catholics and the Mormon-Americans or even Jew-Americans then they will soon come after Christians to denigrate us and further exploit us.

    TEA

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    • tvtailor
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:52am

      Does anyone out there remember that GW wasted a HUGE surplus and began the decent into this recession which our great-grandchildren will still be paying for? Who gives a flying f&$K about Obama’s birth certificate?

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    • Sleazy Hippo
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:57am

      That’s “GlenN” you peanut.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:13pm

      I remember… a German reported that Hitler wrote a Manuscript… basically saying… the World was filled with Beta (stay at home passives)… and Germany filled with Alpha types (agressive dominators)… where the Alphas would defeat the Batas… but he feared America, for only Delta types (explorers who are brave and take risks) go there!

      I am saying: Obama can use Hitlers plans… but he does not know his Opposition!

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:29pm

      FTA: “How Long Has Obama Been Fighting With Catholics?”

      Ever since he left the Madrassa?

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    • gjcaudera
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:17pm

      To: DISGUSTEDAMERICAN – I too am disgusted with you. Catholics do pray to Jesus Christ (Note: his name (Jesus Christ because that’s who he is. That includes God The Father, God The Son, and God the Holy Spirit. As far as the Blessed Mother Mary is concerned we pray to her to intercede to her son for the help we need. So, you see we can pray to both. AND I’ll pray for you to be enllightened.

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    • sixtysix
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:31pm

      I am stunned to hear liberals pretend they are, well, liberal. They will not utter a word against Islam, of course, that might be dangerous; but, I don’t think that is the only thing stopping liberals. Chris Matthews made egregious comments about Mormons and the Romney candidacy. Devout Catholics are targetted while name-only Catholics roll over and allow themsleves to be subverted. One must admit that liberals recognize their true opponents – Christ and honest Christians. But, when a man and/or a group set themselves up to fight against God, the only result will be terrible for men and groups. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the Living God.

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    • bubba.knucklehead
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:19pm

      to: MONICNE

      Catholics are Christian. BTW They don’t pray to the Virgin Mary, They ask the Virgin May to pray for them..

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    • Cowboy
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:57pm

      “WILL come after Christians” ???

      Monicne, Catholics ARE Christians.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 4:35pm

      “Jew-Americans” MONACNE? Your mask slipped again didn’t it lefty? You seem to be having a lot of trouble staying in character lately precious. I bet you even stalled in remembering to obey your pathological complusion to put “TEA” at the end of your insipid attempts at satire. Once again…(I know you’re unteachable… but just for the record) for satire and parody to be effective, it must be witty and intelligent. Why aren’t you grasping this most simple of premises yet MOREACNE? Quite simply…you’re unteachable.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 4:48pm

      BUBBA KNUCKLEHEAD…you’re asking a godless liberal to speak sense on a subject she knows absolutely nothing about expect what her keepers have told her to think (and repeat) about it. MONACNE is the quintessential leftist. Prone to groupthink, hopelessly indoctrinated, pathological hatred of all things not of the left, a willingness to lie, obfuscate and deny for her ideology. Ask the idiot to name just one SOLE policy Obama has implemented on his own that led to the demise of Bin Laden. So far she‘s given me that Obama didn’t end “Cheney” policies..some truly weird line about “faith in the courts” (along with a a nebulous and totally fabricated “750%” idiocy about Obama’s record) and then she offered…bringing us back full circle to the level of indoctrination the idiot is in…that I should watch that 17 minute, hollywood produced propaganda film where she insists Obama trained the helicopter pilots who flew the SEALs into Pakistan to get OBL.
      What does she deliberately forget to mention?
      Secretay Gates summed it up nicely:
      “Frankly, a week ago Sunday, in the Situation Room, we all agreed that we would not release any operational details from the effort to take out bin Laden. That all fell apart on Monday, the next day.
      We are very concerned about the security of our families – [...] And without getting into any details
      I would tell you that when I met with the team… they expressed a concern about that [...]“.

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    • john koenig
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 6:23pm

      @Monicne

      Catholics ARE Christians. The original Christians, in case you failed history.

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:11pm

      Ave. N Gerk, (smile)

      You cut, you paste, you move on and on – so very prolific. You are just like your bro-mance Rushbo, in your War Against Women that is so popular with limbocytes and hannteees these days. Poor boy!

      Keep bullying and acting as anti-women and rude as you have been in here and see what happens when you ever try to get a second date from one of us! Ladies do not appreciate fem-baiting Trollies.

      LOL, and ((Big HUG)) TEA!! Just for U!!

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    • wingnut1955
      Posted on March 15, 2012 at 1:20am

      @tvtailor, fist what does anything you said have to do with the Obama war on Catholics? Next, the “HUGE surplus” was a paper surplus invented by President Clinton. Also, it seems that only you seem to care about the Obama birth certificate.

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    • TAXEVERYONE
      Posted on March 15, 2012 at 8:35am

      The Catholics helped elect Obama.
      Like other groups of followers, once Obama has their support, he usually begins to ignore them.
      Let’s see if the Catholics have a spine this year.

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  • Obama Nation
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:57am

    Considering what we already know about Obama Is a forged birth ceritificate really so far fetched?

    I can’t understand why people like Bill O’Reilly, Glenn Beck, Michelle Malkin and S.E. Cup seem to think Obama forging his birth certificate is so far outside the realm of possibilities.

    Isn’t this the same man who surrounds himself with communists and domestic terrorists?

    Isn’t this the same man who endorses ACORN?

    Isn’t this the same man who has ties to the likes of Tony Rezco, Louis Farrahkan and Rev Wright?

    Isn’t this the same man who placed people in his administration that have known ties to organizations like CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood?

    Yet they scoff at the idea that Obama’s Birth Certificate could be a forgery because why?

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    • barber2
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:15am

      Just want to see those hidden school records. Think they were hidden for a reason ! Financial aid as a foreign student ? Or just the usual Affirmative Action deal ? Disciplinary problems ? Must be something there that they do not want seen.

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    • cuinsong
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:24am

      We just need to replace this guy and repair the damage he has done then move on. NObama should be the mantra! His song is “The Devils Song” http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_10789987

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  • iampraying4u
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:43am

    lets pray for abamination lets pray he gets out of the country

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  • mycomet123
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:42am

    FOCA/Freedom of Choice Act? Where is my choice in not having my tax dollars used to fund Planned Parenthood so they could provide abortions. I was raised Catholic. All growing up my parents complained about the Republicians, & voted Democrat because the Republicians were the wealthy party who was screwing the poor working class. Alot of people still have this mentality.They maybe against abortion BUT they vote the economy over morality–not even researching it themselves to find out that this president is not only screwing them morally but also economically! It’s a mind set that is very hard to change!

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    • Locked
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:54am

      “Where is my choice in not having my tax dollars used to fund Planned Parenthood so they could provide abortions.”

      Federal money going to Planned Parenthood cannot go toward any abortion procedures. Just an FYI.

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    • pbrenda51
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:58am

      But you escaped that mindset…..Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • mycomet123
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:08am

      @LOCKED, Federal money can’t go toward abortion? Maybe in a perfect OR should I say HONEST world. Educate yourself on Planned Parenthood. Also, FYI our president doen’t always tell the truth!

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    • Locked
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:33am

      @Mycomet

      “Federal money can’t go toward abortion? Maybe in a perfect OR should I say HONEST world. Educate yourself on Planned Parenthood.”

      Indeed, if the laws are followed, it can’t. So if you can get proof that a clinic is using federal funds for abortion, go ahead and make a lawsuit. You cannot very well claim the law isn‘t working if no one’s refusing to take action; it’s calling someone guilty before they proven to be so.

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    • Slaynfire
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:11pm

      How can they separate the money?
      What constitutes paying for abortions?

      If federal money pays the rent on facilities where are abortions are done or even suggested is that not paying for abortions?

      If federal money pays the electric bill where abortions are done or suggested they be done, is that not paying for abortions?

      If federal money is used to pay the salary of someone who tells people where to go for abortions, is that not paying for abortions?
      Yes ,these are not direct payments but the abortions wont be done if there is no facility, electricity or the people pushing them are not being paid?

      If the company performs and or sponsors abortions how can you say that the money doesn’t go to fund abortions. Just the simple fact of paying to help keep the doors open is funding abortions. If the money only goes to the executives who write the rules about abortions then the money is funding abortions.

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    • toto
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:55pm

      Another issue that needs to be explored regarding Planned Parenthood and other abortion clinics is what happens to the fetuses they “harvest”. Just read recently that they are purchased by biotech companies for use testing products that you eat and drink everyday. So this may be a much bigger business venture than just the money made for the abortion itself. Also, late term abortion with more developed tissue are sold for a premium. Ummmmm. And if anybody does check into this, follow the money.

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    • TarletonsQuarter
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:28pm

      Locked,

      Of course it is paying for abortions. It is an accounting trick.

      It is similar to the “lottery goes to education” gambit. TECHNICALLY it does, but the state just allocates less to education based on the projected earnings of lotto. Money that PP would have to pay to keep the lights on, do breast cancer “screenings”, etc, is allocated to “abortions” because they know the federal government will fill that gap and pay for those things. It is nothing but moving cash around between two different pots.

      Yet another of our government’s great deceptions.

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    • Cowboy
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 4:04pm

      Money is fungible. Taxpayer dollars go to other expenses to free up ‘other money’ for abortions.

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    • shogun459
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 4:25pm

      @Locked
      Try this
      Take 3 glasses, fill One with wine One with bile and leave the largest one empty.
      The liquids represent the money.
      Pour the Two cups together into the empty cup.

      NOW Pour out JUST My Tax Money.
      Can‘t be done it’s all mixed up you say?
      I rest my case.

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    • sodacrackers2
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 9:17pm

      I grew up a dirt poor Catholic and my entire family always are staunch Republicans. You can’t be Catholic and Democrat!

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    • KathleenElsie
      Posted on March 15, 2012 at 11:55am

      If my budget includes everything I need and we receive an outside amount that specifically is for our fresh food items. That money is marked for one purpose only. Now when we look at the the needs budget we can move an equal amount to the wants side of our family budget.
      The same with PP if they get 100,000 for utilities and other services from the government then the 100,000 they would have spent for the needs can then go to the wants (abortive services in this case.

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  • barber2
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:37am

    Excuse me? The White House has added the Vatican to a watch list of money laundering ?? Is this true ? Why haven’t we heard about this ? If this IS true, Obama has just stepped into some serious dog poo. If this were broadcast widely…….

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    • KathleenElsie
      Posted on March 15, 2012 at 11:58am

      The IMF cleared Rome. The WH has placed Rome on the same list as terror watch countries.

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  • barber2
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:23am

    Anyone who wants to see the utter contempt that the Left has for the Catholic Church has only to skim the front page of the New York Times. The paper has a few favorite articles of Targets For Trashing and the Catholic Church is one of their daily favorites – along with bankers, conservatives, the Supreme Court, Sarah Palin . The comments that these articles generate from readers are of the Maher/ HBO tone. The Left has a new religion : politics. And Big Daddy Government is their God !

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    • infortheride
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:31pm

      Didn’t you mean Mudslum in Chief?

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    • sodacrackers2
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 9:19pm

      Actually I do believe tha the new left are followers of the very first community organizer. After all, he is the father of all lies.

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  • 2Fedup
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:05am

    To answer the title ques:
    The commies hav been fighting the catholic church for the last century,
    Muslims hav been fightng them for roughly 1000 – 1300 years,
    And evil has been fighting the catholics since around 400 a.d. when they prob organized as roman catholics.
    . . . So basically, a long freakin time.

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:20am

      Muslim pigs hate everybody who is not a muslim pig, and Odumbass is a muslim pig…. So of course he hates catholics…..

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    • JimL
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:24am

      Fractio Panis

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    • mike_trivisonno
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:08am

      “…Muslim pigs hate everybody who is not a muslim pig….”

      Which why we need to bring all non-muslims together to stand up to the fetid heap that is The House of Islam. The jihading muslims will do everything they can to continue creating divisions, promoting deceptions, and spreading lies to create mistrust and hate among non-muslim people.

      We are all non-muslim.

      Our non-Islamic cultures are the target and the goal is global Islam with Mecca, Saudi Arabia the seat of power on Earth.

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    • APPAULED
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:17pm

      Yet it was the catholic church that destroyed themselves. Child Molestation is a serious issue and ass much as they supposedly love children they used them as sex objects for years and swep it under the rug moving priests from place to place never turning them over to authorities. Rather than calling it “Child Molestation” which it WAS they call it “homosexual behavior”. Are you kidding me? They are minimizing what they did when they call it “homosexual behavior”. I’m sorry as far as most people are concerned the catholic church destroyed themselces. Now instead of the church paying the settlements “their parishioners” are paying for it. How wrong wrong wrong can you get. Tel tell me about the “moral conscience” of the Catholic church. They obviously don’t have ine and never have. If anyone is a socialist it is the Catholic Pope. Think about it!

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    • infortheride
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:35pm

      @Appauld: Why don’t you look into what the Mudslimes do to young boys on Thursday of every week.
      It is called boys day, were the men have their way with young boys

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    • Cowboy
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 4:08pm

      APPAULED, So when Southern Baptists were Klan members, that made all Southern Baptists Klan members?

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    • sodacrackers2
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 9:22pm

      Appauled, you might not like to hear it, but many of the Popes wrote encyclicals against the evils of socialism.

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  • JQCitizen
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 9:34am

    Let us unite against ANY of our Republican Candidates in November to defeat this Dispicable Man, and send him packing.

    Let us SPEAK OUT NOW to our Representatives to hold firm on not giving him any more ground until then, and CONTACT THEM about any VOTER ID laws that are in our State Congresses. This man will not hesitate to win at ANY COST!!!

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:59am

    Yup Obama is bent on tranformation of the nation; just the outcome is already out of his hands and in the hands of the Almighty. May we emerge to win and save and restore the Republic O Lord.

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    • Obama Snake Oil Co
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 9:24am

      This story reminds me that no matter what Obama tries in November, he will be out of office to anybody but Obama. Why? You cannot alienate the JEWs and Catholics as well as Christians. He crossed the line and damage control did nothing. Factor two, gas prices and his history of cutting America off….Factor three, the economy regardless of what he says and libterds say….the unemployed will not support him. Factor four, he lost big banks and Wall Street support. Hard to believe that one man can screw up so much in such a short time. OH, one more factor….if he tries something stupid like marshal law….consider that gun producers and ammo makers cannot keep up with demand. That is the one industry Obama can say is growing and creating new jobs….not the best thing to focus on…..

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  • sallyredneck
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:57am

    Catholic Advocate.com would be a place to go for Catholics who want to make their voice heard.

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:27am

      @Obama snake oil company…..
      I believe the correct spelling is Libturd…. : ))

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  • Dismayed Veteran
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:39am

    I pray that those of my faith choose religious freedom over their union membership.

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    • CLG 4
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 9:08am

      The socialist democratic platform has passed our new constitution (the health bill). They ar now showing us how this will be used to nullify every thing that could stand in it’s way. The Catholic church is just the first tumbling block to knock down.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:39am

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    “Black Jesus” will fight the Catholic Church until Ya’ll make him “Pope”………….

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  • hempstead1944
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:37am

    Makes you wonder how stupid you have to be to be a Catholic and vote for Obama…….pretty stupid, I’d say……

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    • jakartaman
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:44am

      They are not Catholics – if you do not abide by the faith teachings – you are not a Catholic period.
      The catholic “church” is gone – they are hypocrites – IF you do not excommunicate people like Pelosi etc then all you are doing is desecrating the faith and thats what the “church” and its leaders are doing.
      Shame on them!!!

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    • BrianSTC
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:50am

      I am Catholic and would agree with you….however, most “catholics” that voted for Obama don’t go to Church, don’t know anything about their Faith, and aren’t really Catholic in any meaningful sense. They were baptised into the religion and that’s about it. Watch the Michael Voris clip above. You cannot be a faithful Catholic and voted for Obama. Hello Nancy Pelosi?

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    • destrecht
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 9:45am

      Jakartaman is right. You know the term RINO? We have one too- CINO. A little history. The actual name is the Church of Christ. The term Catholic (katalicos- one with the whole) was instituted around the year 107 by St. Ignatius of Antioch (A student of the apostle John) in his letter to the Smyrnaens. He used it to differentiate between real Christians and those in the various heresies like Gnosticism by pointing out that the others didn’t follow all of the teachings of the Church. So, by fiat, if you don’t agree with the church, you aren’t Catholic.

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    • JimL
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:32am

      11th Station

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    • SECUREOURBORDERSNOW
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:13am

      Jakartaman: Well said. A lot of people are Catholic because their parents are. Likewise, a lot of people vote Democrat because their parents did. However, the Democratic party has been overtaken by the Commies, Marxists, etc. And exactly how does a Catholic vote Democratic because of the abortion issue. The “Catholic” church needs to get a backbone and stand up to those like Pelosi, Kennedy and kudos to the priest who refused Holy Communion to a lesbian. Even in this action, the priest has been barred from ministry. Someone finally gets a backbone and the church slaps him down. Unbelievable. Anybody but Obama 2012.

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    • walkintruth
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 4:24pm

      And if you are Jewish. He is throwing them under the bus as well.

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    • johnclark_SOG
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:37pm

      There are a great many “cafeteria Catholics” attending Mass only on Christmas and Easter. It’s sad to see the church weakened so much. Lately though it seems that something is galvanizing the faithful. It’s obvious that something has begun and that people of faith are waking up to it. Maybe God just turned on the “Fasten you seatbelts” sign in the hearts of His people.

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  • crazyoz
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:35am

    Surprise, surprise. Doesn’t anybody but maybe Polosi thing the anti Christian obama administration hates Catholics. If this anti Christian president was a republican he would have been impeached by now. Double standard?

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  • jujubeebee
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:29am

    Now is certainly the time we need to get down on our knees and thank God for our freedom and our blessings and ask that He help guide the country to do the right thing and let all see what is right and vote for what is right. We are going to need His help to defeat the devil.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:37am

      You know the devil is in all men and women don’t you? And so is God. And however much the devil shows is however much you let him show.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:41am

      The devil isn’t external to people the way people enjoy believing. Much the same way people believe that the comforts of life are external to them, comfort from your couch, your bed, your car, and the same way you channel those things, you also view the devil. The devil’s inside you, and you decide whether or not the devil’s kind comes out of you to show their face.

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    • Some Chicken Some Neck
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:46am

      @Tim -

      Is that your philosophy or did you get that from INXS?

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    • Some Chicken Some Neck
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:51am

      @Tim -

      That your own philosophy or did you take that from an INXS record?

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    • walkintruth
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 4:31pm

      God allows the devil to tempt and lie to us for a reason. It is a test. Most of us are not understanding that we open the door to this evil every time we sin. Then we ask God to help us when things get bad. So I suggest to everyone, make things right with God (repent your sins) so you will be protected from Satan’s lies and tricks. Then the only thing we can do is trust in God to take care of the rest.

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  • Locked
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:19am

    No Muslims were at Bush’s inauguration (either of them). Do we say he’s fighting Islam?

    Actually, there’s a question. Were there Catholic leaders at Bush’s inauguration? Information online says that there were Baptists giving the prayers for both Bush and Obama, but I can’t find references to Catholics.

    I was raised Catholic myself, but honestly I just look at situations like this and shake my head. Obama’s been chomping down on all freedoms; it’s not a Catholic-only, or even religion-only, thing. Even though I’m not part of the Church any more I still find it offensive when someone like Beck says “We are all Catholics.” No. You’re not. The proper term is “We are all Christian;” if you were Catholic, you would reject Mormonism (and any Protestant sect, as they’re apostates as well).

    I left the Catholic Church because of the “Us versus Them” mentality and superior attitude; it’s disheartening to see so many of my Christian brethren still embracing these… in politics, religion, even their day-to-day lives. Humility is Christ’s characteristic, not forming cliques. Making this fight out to be about one specific version of Christianity, rather than an all-out blitz on ALL our rights, is a divisive, insincere, and inaccurate tactic.

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    • BrianSTC
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:39am

      You are the product of a poor knowledge of Catholism. It is not surprising because most Catholics were not properly taught their faith. I suggest that you go to Michael Voris’ website RealCatholicTV.com and browse around because you should learn about the Faith before turning away from it.

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    • Some Chicken Some Neck
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:43am

      Don‘t know which faiths were represented at Bush’s inaugurals. However, Bush wasn’t actively going after the Muslim vote as Obama has gone after the (liberal) Catholic (lots of Catholic Hispanics out there) vote. You must be able to see the POTUS and his legion are trying to split – even splinter – Catholics by marginalizing the conservative ones.

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    • Locked
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:52am

      @Brian

      “You are the product of a poor knowledge of Catholism.”

      As it’s Catholicism, not Catholism, I think I might have a better grasp than you do. But I somehow doubt anything I’ll read will replace what 10 years of religious education taught me: Catholics are the true followers of Christ, the Church was founded by Peter, and all other Christians are misguided apostates.

      There was always a smug sense of moral superiority; to give an anecdote, when I went to college, I asked my new roommate about his religion.
      “Oh, I’m Christian,” he said.
      “Ok… what kind of Christian?” I replied.
      “Um… the kind that follows Christ?”
      “No, what denomination.”
      “Oh. Lutheran.”

      That’s something a Catholic will never do: respond that they are “Christian” instead of “Catholic.” It’s all about pride: pride in the 2000-year history of the Church, pride in being “the original” Christians, pride in being by far the largest branch of Christianity.

      But that’s neither here nor there. That’s simply the feeling of being a Catholic; the grandoise churches, the murals and frescos, the scripted masses… they all emphasize the vast pride of the religion. I finally realized it‘s contrary to Christ’s teachings, and stopped attending Catholic mass. There are plenty of good Christians in the Catholic church, but the religion itself does not, in my opinion, follow Christ’s teachings. Your mileage may vary.

      A little off-topic, sorry. But I “get” Catholicism ju

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    • Locked
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:57am

      @Some Chicken

      “However, Bush wasn’t actively going after the Muslim vote as Obama has gone after the (liberal) Catholic (lots of Catholic Hispanics out there) vote.”

      Most Hispanics are actually very conservative Catholics; especially recent immigrants. Where they split with the GOP is not over religion, but over immigration and the perceived prejudice against those whose first language is not English.

      Take it from someone living in Florida and who is fluent in Spanish. Most legal immigrants to the US from Central and South America are conservative in nature and religious views. The liberal ones are often the illegal immigrants (who can’t vote) or second/third-generation Hispanic families (who, like more and more young people, are becoming more liberalized and less religious).

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    • JimL
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 9:02am

      Start where you are. Step by step. Conversion is life long.

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    • LestWeForget
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 9:48am

      BRAINSTC, Beautifully said. I cannot improve upon that.

      LOCKED, I hope I say this right – I am short on coffee! – Glenn’s point that “We are all Catholics now” isn’t to be taken literally, but points to the need for each citizen (whatever his faith system) to unify against the religious freedom attacks being made against the largest organized religion in America. The idea is, if that institution can be brought down, then there will be a domino effect across other religions that stand in the way of a political agenda. We need your help as we face the pattern of anti-Catholic behaviors that have been punctuated in at least 2 policies that directly violate Christian consciences: Whatsoever you do to the least of my people, that you do unto me. (And by the way, you are right that Christianity is under attack, Catholics are just the first and most blatantly singled-out group of Christians. That is Glenn’s point about how we need to stop it now by unifying.)

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    • Iamnotanumber
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:28am

      I agree that the attack is a broad based attack on the historical conservative culture, but that includes an attack on one of his positions most staunch adversaries. Quite a bit of his campaign promises and agenda since taking office has been to undermine the social structure through Obamacare and the “women’s health” debate which is anchored in the old school progressive doctrine of abortion and eugenics. The most unwavering stalwart opponent of abortion since its inception has been the Catholic Church which therefore makes them enemy number one in the eyes of the current administration. FWI the definition of the word Catholic is, universal or of general interest; liberal, having broad interests, or wide sympathies; or inclusive, inviting and containing strong evangelism. Come home, you are very welcome to come to church with me!!!

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    • conservativewoman
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:38am

      @LOCKED
      That is a weak excuse for leaving the Church and your Christian faith. Maybe that is because you did not realize that the Church is made up of humans who are flawed. The very reason you left is the very reason I love my Church, because I never hear criticism of others or boasting. The message is to love others as God loves us, no matter what denomination they are.
      I teach children at my parish and this is the message I give them over and over.

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:01pm

      @BRIANSTC
      @IAMNOTANUMBER
      @CONSERVATIVEWOMAN
      Thank you and well said. All we can do for Locked is to fast and pray this Lent for his return home.
         “O My Jesus, help me in my own small way to imitate Your life of sacrifice in order to save mankind.
         Allow me to offer You the gift of fasting one day a week throughout Lent to save all of humanity, so that they can enter the gates of the New Paradise on Earth.
         I offer You, dear Jesus, my sacrifice with love and joy in my heart to show You the extent of my love. Through this sacrifice I beg You for the salvation of every soul who may have fallen from grace. Amen.”

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    • Locked
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:36pm

      @Conservativewoman

      “That is a weak excuse for leaving the Church and your Christian faith”

      Whoa whoa whoa… take a step back. I left the Catholic Church; but my faith in Christ is stronger than ever. It was only once I no longer called myself “Catholic” that I realized how much I was missing by not calling myself “Christian;” instead of searching in the Bible for answers, Sunday School told me to ask the priest if I had questions.

      I very much agree that humans are flawed; and Christians more than most, as many of us are looking to better ourselves (implying that we’re very aware of our imperfections now). But it was systemic in Catholicism; it wasn’t the actual people who were the source of vanity and pride, but the structure of the church itself. It’s having an enormous new church built instead of a halfway house with a small chapel. It’s having the Vatican be opulent and awe-inspiring while the majority of Catholics worldwide live on a couple dollars a day.

      Now, most big churches are similar, and there’s nothing wrong with wanting to make impressive structures to show our love for God. But I found in Catholicism, more than any other Christian faith I’ve looked in upon, a feeling of “We’re the best” while being the furthest from the teachings of Christ himself. Again, your mileage may vary… but for me, it wasn’t until I opened my heart to God and closed by ears to the priests that I truly felt “Christian.”

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    • mycomet123
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 5:33pm

      LOCKED, I undestand where you’re coming from in regards to the Catholic faith. I was raised in a devout Catholic family. I stopped going to mass in my twenties because I couldn’t stomach the “holier than thou” attitude of the Catholic Church. After a born again experience in my thirties I started searching for God & ended up back in the Catholic Church. Faith is a journey, some have to go all around the subdivision to get down the street. I still find at times the “holier than thou” group–sometimes I’m sure people may think the same of me. If you trust in God he will lead you where you need to be. Please don‘t allow other people’s arrogance or poor behavior to hinder you relationship with Jesus at it’s deepest level wherever that may be. God Bless!

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    • RobMac68
      Posted on March 15, 2012 at 12:39am

      MYCOMET….”After a born again experience in my thirties I started searching for God & ended up back in the Catholic Church”
      I am not going to bash the Catholic Church in my comment, so if you take it as such, you took it wrong. I had a very close Catholic friend sometime ago. She would refer to me as a “born-againer” instead of a Baptist. I asked her about this and she told me that being Catholic they don’t recognize the “born-again” belief. I asked her if she was going to heaven and she gave me a whole list of church rituals she did as a child that guaranteed her place in God’s kingdom. Being born again and accepting Jesus’ free gift of salvation had nothing to do with it. It was all about the church’s rituals. My friend was in her 50′s at the time. She spent all her school years in Catholic school. Her family had always been Catholic and her grandparents were straight from Italy where they were Catholics. She lives in none other than Youngstown, OH where I would believe per capita has more Italian Catholics than anyother city in the U.S. So it is safe to say, she knows what it means to be Catholic. So my question to you is, how does your born again experience fit in to your Catholic Church?

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on March 15, 2012 at 8:10am

      @MYCOMET123
      Unfortunately your friend was in error. Although she spent her whole life in the Church she never catechized herself properly. Rituals do not convey guaranteed salvation. The concept “Born again” only applies to baptism, which the person is blessed with Holy Water in the name of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. Once a person is baptized, the Holy Spirit leaves it’s indelible mark on the soul, that being original sin is no longer present and the person becomes the adopted brother/sister in Christ. In other words, once baptized always baptized. This doesn’t mean that we are no longer flawed and can not sin. Salvation is an ongoing battle throughout the believers life.

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    • mycomet123
      Posted on March 15, 2012 at 9:43am

      ROBMAC68, I realize the Catholic Church doesn’t “believe in the born again experience”. The doctrine in the Catholic Church teaches the sacrement of Confirmation is the dispensation of the Holy Spirit (as least that’s the way I understand it anyhow, I could be wrong). All I know is that when I was Confirmed I wasn’t change as far as I could tell. My born again experience which is way to long to explain was, long story short, an awakening of the awareness of God. Before this happened I believe in God just never really thought about Him. After this experience everything was directed towards an awareness of God. I‘m not trying to say that people in the sacrement of Confirmation don’t receive the Holy Spirit (if that what it was suppose to happen?) BUT, it didn’t happen that way for me. I am Catholic because I BELIEVE that the Eucharist is the true Body,Blood,Soul & Divinity of Jesus. Why, because receiving the Eucharist each day (which the Holy Spirit lead me to do) delivered me from alcoholism. Once you Believe in the Eucharist, as Peter stated “Lord, to whom shall we go?” John 6:53-69. There is no other place for me to go!

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  • MCLOVINIT
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:18am

    Political Prayer:
    “It is January 20th, 2013.
    Rick Santorum is being sworn in as the new President of the United States.
    I give thanks to you Almighty God, for your blessings! Thank you, Lord.”
    I see it. I feel it. I believe it. It is so.

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  • 9111315
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:13am

    I’m thinking his problem with the Catholic Church goes back to the crusades.

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    • CatB
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:28am

      Yes …. I think there in lies the truth ;-)

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    • Deborah
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:32am

      NOT. That’s ignorant.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 5:06pm

      Well we can be certain it goes back to at least the campaign of 2008 where in front of a crowd of $2500 a plate san francisco leftist elite, religious Americans were “bible thumping, gun totting, bigots”. But when he needs a vote in states like PA (with high catholic demographics) they’re…’the folks”.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:10am

    .
    Q: How Long Has “Black Jesus” Obama Been Fighting Catholics?

    A: The Devil has been fighting forever…….

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  • jujubeebee
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:03am

    They can try the Chicago style of punitive politics, along with their showbiz stunts but the Catholic Church won’t back down and neither will defenders of freedom. If they think that a few Catholics who take birth control are going to allow the government to take away religious freedom just because they personally go against this one thing……..they had better think again. PEOPLE WILL SEE THIS AS A FREEDOM ISSUE! This is an attack on freedom and an attempt to ease us into their reformative government that is without freedom. His Hope and Change slogan didn’t do much for me in 2008 but his new Winning the Future is like him saying to all of us that he is going to win against the constitution. However those initials of his new campaign ~WTF~ fit but dare I say why. WTF?

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    • ishka4me
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:15am

      while doing some Christmas shopping in Massachussets a few weeks ago at a Walmart i was greeted with happy holiday. Being a wise guy from way back i asked the lady “what Holiday?” She answered with and angry face and a loud grunt, oh, you are one of them God people. The left hates God, the idea of God and people who believe in God. Obama’s hatred is just not for Catholics

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:30am

      I hope you’re right jujubeebee but, he has a lot of influential Catholics like Jim Wallis already taking orders from the White House instead of the Vatican. It wasn’t that long ago that Hitler had German Catholic leadership dancing to his tune.

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    • Locked
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 9:30am

      “while doing some Christmas shopping in Massachussets a few weeks ago at a Walmart i was greeted with happy holiday.”

      Uh…

      1. It’s March. You do your Christmas shopping in February?
      2. People say “Happy Holidays” or “Merry Christmas” in February?
      3. You shop at Wal-Mart? Go China…
      4. You shop in MA? Hop over the border to NH. No sales tax, compared to MA’s 6.25%.

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  • MONICNE
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:01am

    If we let them continue to exploit stories about the Catholics and the Mormon-Americans they will soon come after Christians to exploit us then.

    We must stand with Catholics, we are all Catholic now!

    TEA

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:01am

    Obama wants a liberal, pro abortion, pro gay marriage takeover inside the Catholic church. He’ll be just fine with them then. He wouldn’t push for a coup de tat in Iran but, he’s pushing like crazy for one inside the Vatican.

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    • jujubeebee
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:14am

      There will NEVER be a takeover inside the church. EVER! He wants to take control of the country and limit the church. He wants a complete takeover of the government and the constitution and the church is just a sideline issue that he wishes to push aside and diminish. If he succeeds the churches may have to practice in private like some did in countries where they had no religious freedom. They may need to close all hospitals and adoption centers that they have to avoid having to comply with government mandates to perform abortions or sanction gay adoptions. The country will be the loser. The catholic church and their charities have done alot for Americans. It will be their loss if the government decides to take away religious freedom.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:15am

      he like all mussels are still fighting the crusades

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  • USAqh
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 7:57am

    Here is my surprised face !!! Really – just figuring out that the Muslim in Chief is against Christianity?

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:09am

      But the Pope launched the crusades against his holy lands ……..

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    • barber2
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:26am

      REPUB: Hey, dude, that was in the 1066 era. Haven’t heard of a new one lately – from the Christian side, that is .

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    • the wireworker
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:31pm

      the crusades started with the rise of islam and its attacks on christian peoples!

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    • BRONZESTAR
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:32pm

      what I cannot stand is people like repubic that do not know history. The Crusades were in response to the first islam rising.

      Now we are at the beginning of another, time for a return to the Crusades/Crusaders

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  • HKS
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 7:56am

    Obama and his heritage have been fighting Christians for thousands of years. It’s what they do, its like in their DNA, along with sharia law.

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    • JimL
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:23am

      Mary leads, fully, to her Son.

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  • Baddoggy
    Posted on March 14, 2012 at 7:53am

    Cathoilics and Christians should do as the Bible says and pray ahhemmmm “for” Obama…

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:05am

      I’m just counting on forgiveness in that area Doggy. Although, I do pray FOR him to be defeated, does that count?

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:11am

      I have been know to pray for a meteor to hit Washington…My bad?

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    • 31Proverbs
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:22am

      Catholics ARE Christians

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    • Chris Robinson
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 9:00am

      I have been praying for him–but I also know there were righteous people in Israel and Judah during the time of the Kings. I’m sure THEY prayed as well, but the Kings of Israel were all “wicked in the eyes of the Lord” and so were MOST of the Kings of Judah. Until the NATION realizes there’s a need for repentence and a return to God, then what makes us think God will hear or honor our prayers. (I agree with Glenn–we need another Great Awakening!)

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    • disgustedAmerican
      Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:04am

      31proverbs—– Catholics are not Christians. The do use the same manuscript, but pray to the Holy mother, Mary, not Christ himself. True Christians believe in the son, who is the only way into heaven, not the mother. I’ll pray for you to be enlightened…

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    • by faith
      Posted on March 15, 2012 at 3:38pm

      Disgusting American
      Proverbs 31? Take scripture out of context much?

      Catholics don’t pray to Christ himself? You can’t be that stupid.

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    • by faith
      Posted on March 15, 2012 at 3:47pm

      Oh wait, I read some of your other posts…you are that stupid, and a racists

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