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‘How Mean Spirited, How Callous Can You Be’: Opponents of Texas’ Voter ID Law Face Skeptical Court

Opponents of Texas Voter ID Law Try to Claim Law Violates Voting Rights Act, Face Skeptical Court and Strong Defense

(Source: Texas Tribune)

(The Blaze/AP) – Lawyers for the state of Texas argued Friday that a contentious voter ID law should go forward because it doesn‘t limit minorities’ right to vote and, therefore, does not violate the federal Voting Rights Act.

Justice Department attorneys argued just the opposite, saying the law requiring voters to show valid, government-issued photo identification at the polls is exactly the type of statute that the act, passed in 1965, was designed to prevent.

Both sides gave closing arguments Friday after a weeklong trial about the Texas law, passed last year by the state’s Republican-controlled Legislature. Texas currently only requires voters to show their voter registration cards, which do not have photos, or another acceptable alternative form of ID such as a driver’s license or utility bill.

However, according to WOAI, Texas’ attorneys seemingly destroyed all of the Justice Department’s main arguments in the case – even getting one of their lead witnesses to admit he got his information from Wikipedia.

This, just days after Attorney General Eric Holder addressed the NAACP National Convention and told a supportive audience that he would “not allow the Texas voter ID law to happen,” a line that received applause and cheers.

(Related: Eric aHolder to NAACP: ‘I Will Not Allow the Texas Voter ID Law to Happen’)

More from WOAI:

The Justice Department presented what it said was evidence that as many as 1.5 million Texans don’t have the government issued photo [ID] required to vote, but Attorney General Greg Abbott says of the people on that roll, 50,000 are dead, 330,000 are over the age of 65 and can vote by mail, where a photo [ID] is not required, and more than 800,000 are on the list improperly.

Among the people who the DOJ listed as ‘lacking the required documentation needed to vote’ are Former President George W. Bush, San Antonio state Senator Leticia Van de Putte, and Licia Ellis, [whose] husband, Houston state Senator Rodney Ellis, on Wednesday blasted the voter [ID] law as ‘just like the racist murder of James Byrd’ who was dragged to death in east Texas in 1998.

In fact, University of Texas students conducted a telephone survey of random people on the DOJ‘s list of people who allegedly don’t have the documents required to vote, and found that more than 90% of them, including 93% of African Americans and 92% of Hispanics on the list, actually have a photo [ID].

But perhaps the testimony most embarrassing for the DOJ came from Victoria Rodriguez, a San Antonio teenager who was supposed to represent the 1.5 million Texans “disenfranchised” by the voter ID law.

Opponents of Texas Voter ID Law Try to Claim Law Violates Voting Rights Act, Face Skeptical Court and Strong Defense

(Source: thinkprogress.org)

Rodriguez testified that she not only lacks a photo ID but also the documentation needed to get one; leading State Rep. Trey Martinez Fischer to argue requiring her to obtain those documents is the same as an illegal “poll tax.” But that argument was flipped upside down when Rodriguez admitted under cross examination that she has a birth certificate, a voter registration card and a Social Security card, WOAI reports.

So then Rodriguez testified she “doesn’t have time” to go to the DPS office to get her voter ID card. But as WOAI points out:

She testified she had plenty of time to fly more than 1,500 miles to Baltimore, catch a train to Washington, D.C. and sit for hours in a federal courtroom to testify how unfair the Texas voter [ID] law is.

Next was the testimony of the Justice Department’s so-called expert witness, Harvard professor Stephen Ansolabehere, who testified the law is “more likely to affect black and Hispanic voters“ more than ”white voters.”

Again, under cross examination the witness waffled. The professor testified that “almost no one is excluded” by the requirement to vote.

Texas’ voter ID law is similar to laws passed by GOP-controlled legislatures in Georgia and Indiana.

The Justice Department blocked the Texas law in March, citing the Voting Rights Act. Texas sued the Justice Department, sending the case to federal court  in Washington. A three-judge panel is set to decide the fate of the law.

It’s not clear when the judges will make a ruling. The presiding judge, Rosemary Collyer, said they would try to have a decision in “quick order.” The  judges have said they would like to rule before November’s elections.

Attorney John Hughes, who argued for Texas, said the state had met its burden, showing through expert witnesses, social science studies and its own dissection of the Justice Department’s evidence that there was little cause to believe any eligible voter would be unable to vote because of the ID law.

“People who want to vote already have ID or an ability to get it,” Hughes  said.

He said if the Justice Department’s argument that thousands would be disenfranchised by the Texas law were valid, the courtroom would have been full of witnesses testifying in support of that point.

Opponents of Texas Voter ID Law Try to Claim Law Violates Voting Rights Act, Face Skeptical Court and Strong Defense

(AP Photo/The The Hutchinson News, Travis Morisse)

Hughes also reiterated other arguments Texas had made throughout the week: that public opinion backs voter ID laws, that Texas lawmakers had the integrity of votes — not the suppression of minority voters on their mind — when they  passed the law, and that other states that have passed ID laws have not seen a drop in turnout.

The three judges hearing the case seemed skeptical of Hughes’ arguments, interrupting him repeatedly with questions. Judge Robert Wilkins asked Hughes how Texas could require some rural voters to drive more than 100 miles to get a new voter ID card when under current law a person cannot be required to travel  more than 100 miles for a subpoena.

Matthew Colangelo, in the Justice Department’s closing argument, said Texas’ law should be thrown out under the Voting Rights Act because of a number of factors, including the atmosphere in which the law was passed, statistical  evidence about its effects and the fact that it creates new barriers to  voting.

“It’s exactly the kind of law Congress had in mind when it passed the Voting Rights Act in 1965,” he said of the act, which was passed as a safeguard on minority voting rights.

Colangelo noted that the ID law in Texas was passed against a backdrop of “tremendous population growth” in the state’s Hispanic community. Texas added 4 million people to its population between 2000 and 2010, he said, and 90 percent of them were Hispanics.

“Texas has acted to take away Latino voting strength as it’s on the verge of growing” he said.

He also argued that the law simply made it more difficult for people to vote, calling it “a new barrier that will disenfranchise.”

Closing arguments also came Friday from lawyers for several intervening  groups who have joined the Justice Department in opposition to Texas’ law. One of the attorneys, Gerald Hebert, said the law would hurt the poor. He referred to it as “merely a pretext, a cloak for voter suppression.”

“It will harm the poor, the downtrodden, the destitute,” he said. “How mean-spirited, how callous can you be?”

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Comments (323)

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  • whatthecrazy
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:18pm

    If you are not a citizen then you can NOT vote in this country period! Oopsie i mean you have NO right to vote in this country i mean oh never mind you uninvited guest have more rights in our(AMERICANS)own country than we do.Btw those tunnels they found here recently go both ways baby!!!!!!!!!! let them have this future crap hole and we can take Mexico clean her up and make it known it will be off limits to those who do not abide the rules PERIOD.

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    • jman-6
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:40pm

      At least the majority of them do wanna work!

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    • MCDAVE
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 11:10pm

      That poor and destitute will only make their lives worse by re electing Obama

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    • yougottabekidding
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 11:27pm

      Interesting little tidbit

      “In 2009, Obama signed a bill forcing service members to re-register with their elections authority every year. If they don’t re-register, THEY CAN’T VOTE! Many service members don’t even know this. And it will soon be too late.”

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    • Meyvn
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 11:28pm

      Any one who voted for Obama should be beat up and locked away. But at least beat up. Anyone who votes for him again should be beat up 2x.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 12:02am

      “It will harm the poor, the downtrodden, the destitute,” he said. “How mean-spirited, how callous can you be?”

      Fact is, these are the people bringing down our once wonderful and very successful nation. Keep adding chocolate to milk and you no longer have milk. You have chocolate milk. Cultural changers that lead to devolution, not evolution.

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    • Ded-Bred
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 12:38am

      Why does this even get brought up? 2008 ya had black ***** cat boys w/ masks & sticks @ polls threatening & intimidating voters. DOJ had the case sewed up- just a matter of how long those slime balls would serve. Holder rolled into place because B.O. got elected in a national election w/ lots of proof of voter fraud & the above mentioned case that til then only occurred in 3rd world dictatorships. And set his peoples free. Now y’all act shocked about this madness? Man up, or shut up.

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    • jzs
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 1:29am

      Can somebody please link me to some information about voter fraud in Texas? You know, investigations, trials, convictions for voter fraud in the state of Texas (or any state for that matter!). I’d be really interested in any information you could provide about voter fraud in Texas or other states. But I won’t hold my breath, because you can’t.

      Voter fraud in Texas doesn’t exist, certainly not organized voter fraud. Use the Googles for Texas or any other other state.

      Please don‘t pretend you’re worried about non-citizens influencing elections, because you don’t have any evidence, nor can you find any.

      All these laws do nothing but disenfranchise the poor, the young and the old, people who traditionally vote democratic. Please let’s not pretend, and I know you aren’t stupid.

      Like many of your ancestors, a lot of babies in this country are born at home and don’t have hospital issued birth certificate, unlike you more privileged people who could afford to have your children born in a hospital. What does a birth certificate mean except that someone was born in a hospital? Does that make a person less American because they aren’t as rich as you and were delivered at home? So if a a kid is born at home instead of a hospital they should be denied to vote?

      Let’s not pretend. These laws serve no other purpose other than to deny American poor the right to vote, as well as the young and the old.

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    • Wayner
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 1:46am

      Even when I was in my 50′s and smoked, sometimes Walmart would get on a kick and I would have to show my ID to buy a pack of cigarettes.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 2:21am

      Hey JZSaul,

      This came right away, so I thought I’d trow it at you while I go dig up some more.

      TX 2008 In Harris County, nearly 10,000 ACORN-submitted registrations were found to be invalid, including many with clearly fraudulent addresses or other personal information.
      2008 ACORN turned in the voter registration form of David Young, who told reporters “The signature is not my signature. It’s not even close.” His social security number and date of birth were also incorrect.

      http://rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html

      Be back later with more.

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    • MuskratProblem
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 2:24am

      @JZS

      *Yawns*

      In most states the identification is free or on average 15$ from the DMV, of course, we could do it the way some Europeans do it and get it for free. In the Czech Republic, your high school ID, which is mandatory and issued by the school, can be used as identification. Living there, I was required to have a photocopy of my visa on me at all times. The same when I lived in Slovakia and when I visited Poland and Germany. Not having identification being a requirement is backwards, ancient thinking and I have always wondered why America has yet to adopt it.

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    • Windwalker
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 2:32am

      @JZS

      “Use the Googles for Texas or any other state” Apparently you are not aware of what is surfacing after purging voter rolls in the state of Florida. When you are summoned for jury duty and you ask to be excused from that duty because “you are not a citizen” , what does that tell you. There isn’t a state that I know of that sends out jury duty notices other than to people who are registered to vote. You don’t have to be a Sherlock to figure out what is going on. If Texas would start doing what Florida is doing, this crap would stop.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 2:40am

      JZS,

      In response to your silly paragraph……………….

      “Getting a Social Security number for your newborn is voluntary. But, it is a good idea to get a number when your child is born. You can apply for a Social Security number for your baby when you apply for your baby’s birth certificate. The state agency that issues birth certificates will share your child’s information with us and we will mail the Social Security card to you.

      If you wait to apply at a Social Security office, you must show us proof of your child’s U.S. citizenship, age and identity, as well as proof of your own identity. We must verify your child’s birth record, which can add up to 12 weeks to the time it takes to issue a card. To verify a birth certificate, Social Security will contact the office that issued it. We do this verification to prevent people from using fraudulent birth records to obtain Social Security numbers to establish false identities.”

      You can find the source for that yourself if you want at the Social Security Website.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 2:45am

      JZS,

      http://www.texaswatchdog.org/2010/12/texas-watchdog-voter-fraud-in-south-texas/1292876095.story

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 2:47am

      JZS,

      Another, in this one, evidence abounds.

      http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/story/2012-03-19/voter-ID-Texas-fraud/53658158/1

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 2:53am

      JZS,

      Be sure to read this one all the way through.

      http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2012/apr/17/greg-abbott/greg-abbott-claims-50-election-fraud-convictions-2/

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 2:56am

      JZS,

      Yet another,

      http://www.kiiitv.com/story/19023250/4-more-charged-in-sunland-park-voter-fraud-case

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 3:02am

      JZS,

      I need to clarify one of my previous posts.

      It should have said………”In response to your REALLY silly paragraph.

      Just saying….. “your silly paragraph” probably caused some confusion.

      Sorry

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 3:44am

      JZS, It looks like the majority of voter fraud convictions is in Minnesota. Currently there are 113 convictions from the 2008 elections so far from the investigations of 2,803.
      From what I read below your posts, I wonder if you bothered to Googles (your spelling) any of this.
      But, talking about disenfranchising voters, why are the Democrats always trying to throw out the military absentee ballots? The way Al Gore did when he found a sympathetic Florida court and convinced the judge to toss out all military absentee ballots. This happened before the recounts. Also, it happens quietly quite often. Furthermore, did you read this post above?
      YOUGOTTABEKIDDING
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 11:27pm
      Interesting little tidbit

      “In 2009, Obama signed a bill forcing service members to re-register with their elections authority every year. If they don’t re-register, THEY CAN’T VOTE! Many service members don’t even know this. And it will soon be too late.”

      This is an obvious Democrat ploy to block the members of our military their ability to vote. And, yes it was the Democrats, since they held the WH, Senate, and the House in ‘09. Most states allow service member’s drivers license to extend their expiration dates for a specified length of time upon the return of the service member. You registered to vote just once and unless you move you’ll never have to do it again. Why require service members to re-register annually? Riddle us an answer to that?

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 3:54am

      Hey BILLY, your mention of the birth certificates reminded me JZS mentions in his really silly paragraph that apparently he believes that children birthed at home seem to never get a birth certificate! Bwahahahahahaha!
      JZS, I suggest that you also Googles that and check on the simple process for your self.

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    • spikebu
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:36am

      To open a checking account, I have to provide photo ID and SSN. To get a job, I need photo ID and SSN, not to mention history of residency. To cash a check, photo ID, SSN, and a freaking finger print! I think a vote for the President of the United States of America is a bit more important than cashing a check! Don’t forget, journalists had to show two forms of ID in order to hear Holder say it was racist to require ID to vote.

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    • Komponist-ZAH
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:40am

      JZS—

      “These laws serve no other purpose other than to deny American poor the right to vote, as well as the young and the old.”

      This “argument” serves no other purpose but to keep the notion of the racist white Southern conservative alive, thus allowing liberals to continue to manipulate minority groups with fear, while at the time showing just how stupid the left thinks blacks are. After all, it’s too absurd for any thinking person to seriously believe–just try applying it too anything else (e.g., is the illegality of driving w/o a license intended to deprive minorities of freedom of movement?, because that’s exactly what your “reasoning” implies, and if you honestly believe this, then you should call for the abolition of all legal requirements for photo ID).

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    • dublinthewagons
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:04am

      @man. How about trading our welfare citizens that won’t work for the illegals that will work.

      Neither should be voting. If you dont contribute you don’t share in the decision making..

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    • Michigander
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:57am

      Dear JZS,

      like so many knee jerk liberals, you are totally uninformed. Clearly your only information comes from left wing talking points. There are many many people who chose to not have their children in the hospital. There are procedures in place, even now, to get a birth certificate without a hospital birth. No, I’m not going to tell you what they are, if you are smart enough you’ll figure it out yourself. If not, your offspring will never vote.

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    • Turtleman
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:42am

      Really? Work? There are now jobs but plenty of benefits here in Obama World!

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    • poorrichard09
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 8:43am

      Isn’t it just fascinating how “Eric the Red” H0lder and his minions want to PROTECT voter fraud? Each phony vote cancels out a real citizens vote.

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    • 174U
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 9:11am

      Here you go JZS.
      http://www.libertyinstitute.net/protectingpatriots/ProblemHoustonVotes.pdf

      Stop the “oh poor me, crap” and get over it. Several other states have the same types of laws, whats the big deal. Show a picture ID and Vote, not hard. Crap you have to have a picture ID to get a library card….

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    • SLAPTHELEFT
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 9:17am

      Apparently you don’t need An id to get welfare, food stamps, or apply to go to college. Or apparently, as a poor little Mexican girl, you don’t need Id to fly to Baltimore.

      How do these people even function in this country?

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    • SLAPTHELEFT
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 9:19am

      I had to show ID to get into the chiropractors office for treatment yesterday.

      Quick, anybody got holders number? I’ve been violated.

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    • beekeeper
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 9:46am

      @JZS wrote:

      “Can somebody please link me to some information about voter fraud in Texas? You know, investigations, trials, convictions for voter fraud in the state of Texas (or any state for that matter!). I’d be really interested in any information you could provide about voter fraud in Texas or other states. But I won’t hold my breath, because you can’t.”

      If you can‘t check a voter’s ID how would you propose we detect voter fraud- look for a little man in their eyes?

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    • lovenfl3
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 9:47am

      Did you notice that none of these “everybody should vote” crusaders ever seem to want to talk about the legal US citizen that has their vote cancelled out by the illegal that does vote? There is a great youtube on this called stop the insanity, it says it all.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JODQoMEveds

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    • Blazebanned
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 10:47am

      @jman6.
      No, the majority do NOT want to work, come to Austin Texas, and i will prove it to you.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 10:56am

      McDave: So much kinder not to let them vote at all.

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    • oneshiner
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:20am

      This has to be the biggest bunch of Hooey! At my age I’m asked for my drivers licence for a bunch of things. The bar is the only place I don’t need it. ha (don’t go there)
      You need ID for almost everything. The biggest privilege in America is voting. How can we citizens sit back and let dead people vote, illegals vote, and bussed in folks vote because they have no ID requirement?
      Some little twit said she doesn’t have time to get a voters ID card. Boo-Hoo~ !
      If you can sit at an office to get your drivers licence, go to the HHS and apply for food stamps and welfare, do everything that will give you a freebee, all of a sudden, you have the time for that, don‘t ’cha? Then you dam-well have the time to prove who you are to have the PRIVILEGE TO SHOW YOUR ID to vote!

      Yeah! You have time to shop, be all over town, go to events, go to church (?) visit, go to the ER for every little thing (all freebees) but can’t do the honest thing of proving who you are. How do most of you under 30 buy a can of beer without being carded?

      This whole idea just pizzes me off to no end. That it’s a burden is bull-hockey!

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:41am

      JZS. How would there be the opportunity to find voter fraud when nobody has to show an ID? Of course the record of voter fraud is low, nobody has been looking at it with any real way of knowing who is who.

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    • rickc34
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:46am

      It should not matter if you are a legal citizen or illegal, you need to have a form of picture ID available at all times. Voter ID should be left up to the states how hard is it to go and get an ID.

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    • obamasacommie
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 12:26pm

      Who thinks the court i going to side with America and our right to a fair election and not the communist in chief. If Obama doesnt get all the dead vote then how can he be expected to win. That isnt fair, if the dems cant cheat then there wont be anymore anti-constitution judges appointed to the federal court. Wait i know they should have reminded the court that they have nothing to worry about because Bush appointed Roberts to the Supreme Court. You know just to remind them that the Republicans appoint commies as well. Atleast then Texas could win the right to have a some what fair election, i have no doubt that Ocommie has other tricks up his butt if this doesnt pan out.

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    • SLAPTHELEFT
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 1:23pm

      Billy, bill, billy

      I have watched you smack encinom, jzs, or whatever name he/she/it goes by at any given day and I must say you are it’s master. Your links are excellent. Your responses are rapid fire, and your pimp slap is exceptional. If I didn’t know better I would say you are a pro at this.

      Ah, my fine patriot friends at the blaze never let me down. It is truly an honor to watch the open handed slaps to these losers mouths on a daily basis. The lies are easily debunked when we just use the “googles”. Saul alinsky just flipped over in his grave, wondering how he raised a generation of such failures.

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    • flrick
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 1:30pm

      Somebody please explain this to me. The bitch that testified she could not get a photo ID flew all the way from Texas to be at that hearing. HOW THE HELL DID SHE GET ON AN AIRPLANE WITHOUT A PHOTO ID??????? Democrats just lie, lie, lie, lie.

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    • SLAPTHELEFT
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 1:32pm

      Beck was right we’ve already won. Just have to take the field for the second half.

      This whole story is proof that there is an ash kickin comin in November and the dems know it.

      Make sure everyOne you know is registered to vote.

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    • Zipit
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 2:15pm

      “Ask not what your country can do for you- ask what you can do for your country” It seems to me that the left in this country, Holder and Obama, think that this iconic statement in JFK’s inaugural address should be forgotten! It should be every American citizens responsibility, to make the effort to register, and show a valid ID if they want to exercise their constitutional right to vote. It should be the law. As a responsible citizen, no matter what, I would find the time, and do whatever it took to ensure that my vote counted. “If there is a will, there is a way”. But sadly, personal responsibility is not something that matters to the left!

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    • yougottabekidding
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 2:24pm

      I must say I think when you have morons that make stupid comments
      You learn alot. Look at all the links to voter fraud that nobody can show.
      They bring out a lot of information. Someone once told
      Me you can learn from everyone even the not so smart, how not to do
      something.
      Did anyone mention how the clown Frankin got in? You know the
      ballets found in trunk. Of course that is the same state that elected
      a wrestler as gov

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    • yougottabekidding
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 2:28pm

      Darn I almost forgot about the counties that had more votes then registered voters but that was approved by the democratic judges. No fraud there either.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 3:42pm

      Hey Billy,

      Did you catch this part?

      “However, according to WOAI, Texas’ attorneys seemingly destroyed all of the Justice Department’s main arguments in the case – even getting one of their lead witnesses to admit he got his information from Wikipedia.”

      Now who does that remind you of? Doesn’t JZS get most, if not all, of his info from Wiki? : )

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 3:57pm

      @jzs
      “I’d be really interested in any information you could provide about voter fraud in Texas or other states”.

      Sure JZS, I’d be happy to share an experience I had back in 2008. We had ACORN people (yes, they had ACORN and Obama buttons on) going through my neighborhood the entire week before the last day to register to vote. My next door neighbor is a convicted felon, was born in Cuba and is not a legal citizen yet. They registered him and his wife. He told me so.

      Now here’s the interesting part. My roommate, a Democrat, had not registered to vote yet. They came to my house everyday looking for her. The day after the last day to legally register they were back. I told the lady that the last day to register was yesterday and asked how could they register today? She said should could just put yesterdays date on the form because she hadn’t turned in her paperwork yet. They, about 5 of them, were going all through my neighborhood that day. I told one of them I was calling the Police because what they were doing was illegal. They all got into one car and sped off.

      If they come back this year I plan on having a video camera and a separate audio recorder ready. If they do come back and do anything illegal you’ll probably see it here on The Blaze. : )

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    • desertspeaks
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:07pm

      try voting in a mexican election as an illegal, see what happens!

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    • Live_Free_orDie
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:17pm

      Okay…forgive me if I’m a little dense on this. If you don’t have an ID that can allow you to vote…how do you sign up for social services? If you don’t need an ID for verification, what is stopping you from signing up under numerous aliases and collecting multiple services. Also, if you do work, and are getting a check from your employer…how do you open a bank account without ID?

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    • teaisstronger
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:19pm

      DOES ANYONE REALLY THINK IT IS GOING TO MATTER WHAT TEXAS LAWYERS SAY?

      Eric Holder is now the law in America until John Roberts returns. Roberts will say an ID is not an ID. An ID is a tax. Has anyone ever seen a Democrat oppose a tax?

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    • teaisstronger
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:20pm

      What ever happened to Eric Holder’s contempt of Congress? Anything. The USA is now a communist country run by communists.

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    • chalvorson
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:32pm

      I bet all these “disenfranchised” people can find a photo id to buy beer! How convenient! Give me a break…the libs are just mad that the constituents across the country are fighting back against what Acorn promoted! I live in Ohio and we require it when we vote and I’ve never heard of any stink here. If this is such an inconvenience why did the NAACP require it this week for their convention?

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 5:55pm

      Hi MONK,

      I did not notice that at first, but now that you mention it, JZS is a bit of a Wiki Wookiee…….

      http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookiee

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq3dhgpRKH0&feature=related

      Good acorn story there……..here’s hoping that they come back to your neighborhood again.
      I’d love to read about them here.

      @Slaptheleft,

      Thanks for the kind words. I wish I was a professional at this.

      That would mean I was getting paid to do what I truly love doing.

      :o)

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:19pm

      Hey JZS,

      Here is another really good link that another fine Blazer posted on page 6.

      http://www.rnla.org/votefraud.asp

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 6:28pm

      @Komponist-ZAH

      Your response above is one of the most well reasoned I have seen.

      It’s hard to argue with that.

      Hope you don’t mind if I quote you in the future.

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    • 1592
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 9:47pm

      The ONLY way the Dems can win this year is to cheat A HELL OF ALOT!
      More than they ever have. I don’t know one person voting for Obama this year, but they don’t tell anyone. They tell Me because they know how I feel. I didn‘t vote for this clown the 1st time and I’m black. Don’t vote for a color or a sex. VOTE WITH YOUR BRAIN!

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    • RossPoldark
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 9:57pm

      Showing an ID to buy cigarrettes or liquor is fine. Being made to show your ID to vote is unconsitutional or deemed racial profiling? What the… ???? This administration lead by the dictator and his minion in the DOJ has really messed up this country. Up is down, down is up…living in Owackos bazzaro world.

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    • chips1
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 10:10pm

      Hey!!! Billy!!!! Did you “fire six rounds or just five. In all that excitement, I lost count”!!!! Hey!!! JZS!!!! “Do you feel lucky”?

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    • jzs
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 10:22pm

      I guess I proved my point. What I’ve read is here is mostly apocryphal examples of individual people, tens, or maybe even a 100, in states with millions of voters being convicted of voter fraud, although not one single example of someone who was not a US citizen voting, let alone some conspiracy to influence an with illegal votes.

      Sure there are convictions for voter fraud, like this one of an Indiana State Representative, Charlie White (R): http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/02/04/418963/indiana-secretary-of-state-convicted-of-voter-fraud/ Looks like he tried to vote in the wrong district, which is the kind of thing most voter fraud cases are about.

      Can you find ONE SINGLE CASE of an non-citizen being convicted? That‘s what your worried about isn’t it? Can you find one? No, really your worried about organized voter fraud, the kind that would change elections. Can you find anything like that with the Googles? Of course you can’t. Don’t be stupid, that’s ridiculous.

      Come on guys. You’re talking to your uncle JZS. There’s no reason to pretend here. There were no sudden discoveries of massive voter fraud in the last year or two. Voter fraud simply isn’t a problem. So these voter ID laws? They are designed to deny the poor the right to vote, you know that, and I know that you know it. Cut the crap.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 10:43pm

      Hi MONK, BILLY, I was here early this morning. Wish that I had come back sooner than this now. Some really great posts by the two of you as well as so many others. MONK, I was laughing to myself while reading your ACORN story. Where I live out in the boonies, they would never show up out here anyway. I’m sure that JZS will not respond to any of this.
      1592, I’m with you on that. I will not vote for somebody just because I know the person either. It would have be that I know that person’s character and if truly responsible.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:01pm

      JZSaul,

      Can you provide us with one proven case of any legal voter that was kept from having his vote counted because of any constitutionally passed legislation?

      Of course you can’t. But go ahead and look it up on the Wookieepedia.

      There are rules and regulations for everything in life JZS.

      But when it comes to voting, if nothing else, we have made it far easier and more convenient to vote for anyone that chooses to. Even the lazy slugs that should not be voting.

      It is now easier than ever to register.

      You can now vote at your convenience over a long period of time, instead of just on voting day. (I remember waiting in line for hours to exercise my right to vote, and was proud to do so). I truly believe that it should require a little effort to vote.

      JZS, even if someone shows up to vote without ID, or if they are not on the rolls, they can still cast a provisional ballot and clear it up later.

      If someone wants to vote, there is no excuse not to be able to do so. But we should also do everything needed to make sure a bogus vote does not cancel out a valid vote. Because if my vote is nullified by an illegal vote, my rights have now been stolen from me.

      Only the most lazy and incompetent might have a problem complying, and I don’t think those are the people that are really going to give a shirt if they vote or not.

      Do you?

      http://www.libertymind.com/index.php?page_id=257

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:13pm

      And JZS,

      It’s not just non-citizens that are the problem.

      It’s also felons, dead Chicagoans, and people voting multiple times.

      And what are your thoughts about the issue that RJJINGADSEN brought up about screwing with our military members votes?

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    • teebubba
      Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:31am

      The only people harmed by this law are those who are paid by Democratic politicians to vote 4 or 5 times on election day as other registered voters.

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    • jzs
      Posted on July 15, 2012 at 12:35am

      I see that my fan club has come together tonight. No suprise that the impotent in the field of ideas would band together and form a mutual admiration society. I’m happy to take on anyone, but I’m glad you are able to find comfort with one another and cheer each other on in both your disagreement of me and you love of me, JZS, without which you’d have no reason to post.

      Your worship of me is not lost, and is not recieved without obligation.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on July 15, 2012 at 1:46am

      JZS,

      Willing to take on anyone?

      Really?

      Coulda fooled me.

      I don’t know how to type the noise of a clucking chicken, but you get my point.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI7ni7zL8qU

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    • MuskratProblem
      Posted on July 15, 2012 at 4:54am

      *Yawns*

      Still did not address my point. I guess we should not try to be like the rest of the world.

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    • Mgui35
      Posted on July 15, 2012 at 9:53am

      Liberals always find a way into any successful country and eventually infiltrate it and take it over. Since the dawn of time, parasitic human beings have always found a way to feed from prosperity until eventually the host dies. The only bright side is that once the host dies, the parasite dies with it.

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  • dealer@678
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:17pm

    When i was 17 years old (a long time ago ) and trying to buy a 12 pack of beer at 7 eleven i would have loved this argument. Not now brother

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:06am

      What I love is the DOJ concern that W. won’t be able to vote. I don’t know how they can keep a straight face with that argument.

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 1:34pm

      One more thought about what I hate, and why we show ID to prove who we are:

      All those relatives who continue to draw the deceased Social Security, welfare, etc. and they continue to get and cash all those checks while the person has been dead for years. Maybe if they had to show an ID to prove who they are, it would cease.

      But, that’s too practical, like voter ID is just too practical to stop some of the fraud.

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    • chips1
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 10:26pm

      BLUE:
      If you clean and dress them and watch NASCAR, it’s perfectly fine.

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  • Carlinpa
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:14pm

    Liberals SAY there isn’t much evidence of voter fraud. I say IF liberals are vehemently against something rest assured its completely corrupt. They probably have thousands of “ dead voters” illegals and doubles on the voting roles.

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  • wianno94
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:14pm

    “Judge Robert Wilkins asked Hughes how Texas could require some rural voters to drive more than 100 miles to get a new voter ID card when under current law a person cannot be required to travel more than 100 miles for a subpoena.”

    Errrrrh Judge…. How do people drive a hundred miles without a drivers license?

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    • commonsenseguy
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:22pm

      there are court house’s and dps office deserts in Texas,just like there are a lot of food deserts in every city according to the obamas

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    • dublinthewagons
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:27pm

      Hes a Yankee government employee and that would be above his paygrade to make a decision.
      Just look @ the social security judges. They don’t make a decision on evidence.

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    • sawbuck
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:43pm

      I bet if it was to sign up for welfare.. they would find a way..
      to go to collect welfare they would have no problem getting a ride..
      they have all the proper ID ….They would be coached from their
      mother brother uncle to insure they fill out the forms perfectly
      to make sure they qualify too..

      But having to have an ID to vote.. that’s just to much of a burden….
      What a crock…!

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    • busterpuddles
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 1:43am

      @ WIANNO95

      Good point! ….that silly judge…

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:20am

      That caught my attention too. Just what in the heck does a subpoena have to do with any kind of ID? If anybody has to travel that distance to get this ID, they also have to travel that far renew their drivers license, or to conduct any sort of business with county, state, or federal government.

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    • Peach711
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 11:58am

      I believe this is the funniest thing i have ever read!!! Most people with common sense would come to the same conclusion but you have to remember that we are dealing with people that have none!!! your comment is priceless!!

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 1:24pm

      You have to renew drivers license, get there and wait………you have to go in to register a car, go in and wait, you have to pay for annual car license renewal, go in and sit and wait.
      If you get a speeding ticket, you have to go in and sit and wait to pay it too. There are a bunch of burdens put upon the general public, but getting a voters license isn‘t any more problem than all the other things we’re required to do.
      This whole thing is, Holder wants all dead people to vote for obama.

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    • The0bserver
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:05pm

      Judge, what do they do if they have to get a passport? Or a concealed carry permit? Come judge, we’re not that stupid. Are you?

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  • lylejk
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:12pm

    You are telling that these voters don’t buy alcohol, cigarettes, or even drive a car since they don’t have a photo-ID required for such things? Give me a freaking break. Everyone knows that they just want an excuse to flood illegals to vote in the next elections. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist or even an Engineer to figure this one out. :)

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    • Sorocialism
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:21pm

      The Dem’s are trying to protect the “hispanic vote” in Texas…most of the hispanics in Texas are from or descendants of Mexico. The primary form of Identification in Mexico is the “Credencial para Votar” or Voter Credentials…a federally issued ID card that they must have to vote in Mexico.

      If Mexico can require a Federally issued voter ID, Why is it bad for us to require at least a driver’s license?

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    • Kelly Henderson
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 11:46pm

      You are exactly right. Millions of them are here and they will vote for the one that let them ignore the law of the land. Obama and holder should be arrested.

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  • South Philly Boy
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:05pm

    DemonCrats want ALL the VOTER FRAUD they can GET

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    • Dde13
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:17pm

      Ther going to need it… This was a non-issue in ‘08’…obummer didn’t have a record then .

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  • cassandra
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:04pm

    if you are a senior,or a minority I would bet your receiving some kind of benefits for either school,food stamps , wellfare or social security which requirers ID this is just a ploy from democrates to give them a chance at voter FRAUD

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  • commonsenseguy
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:01pm

    so my question to all of these left wing race baiting,communist,freeloading morons is. if you have to show and have a photo id to do everything from,buying a house,car,get a credit card,go to college,but a beer,gun,hell everything,also, at the naacp convention the other day you had to show two types of id, so what is more important voting for the president of America, or going to a convention, you people are just as crazy as we all know you are,you talk out your butts more than you think with your brain,

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 4:35am

      To receive any sort of public assistance, or to even live in public housing you are required to provide a photo ID as well as a Social Security card.

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  • MrKnowItAll
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:00pm

    When I grew up you always had to carry I.D. and enough for a Phone Call. What happened to that?

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  • DeOppressoLiber
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:00pm

    Here are you closing arguments
    When people break the law and vote when they should not, it is a slap in the face to all the military and all the vets who have served. We have defended the Constitution so the USA can be a country governed by laws. Voter ID is the first line in defending our Constitution and keeping the USA a country governed by laws.

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    • castuslonginus
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 7:38am

      Unfortunatly this admin. uses the constitution for the same thing my granddaddy used the sears catalogue for in the old days. To bho,holder,pelosi,reid etal.,it is an obstacle to their complete power grab,and will be gotten over,gone around,ignored or destroyed every time thet can get away with it.I‘ll bet there are some rino’s that could be included in that list too.

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  • fidel1234
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:00pm

    When it comes time to vote the poor and downtrodden and minorities sure don‘t holler about it’s unfair they have to get to the polls do they? Then again I bet these people don’t even vote.

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  • watashbuddyfriend
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:00pm

    Either produce a drivers’ license, or other voter ID, or NO CAN VOTEE!

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    • Itsnakemo
      Posted on July 15, 2012 at 11:13am

      The sad thing about it is here in Texas when the cops stop an illegal they let them go. The illegal gets to drive on down my roads. They do not have insurance, they do not have a driver licence, and they may not own the vehicle, but the police here do not care. Same thing happens at the polls. They have nothing but they want to vote a policy maker for me and I have no say.

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  • MatrixRedPill
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 9:59pm

    My parents – in their 90s now – immigrants – no speaky English – no Driver’s License – But, Texas issues an ID, so that they can use the bank, buy house, …..

    Everyone living and breathing here would need an ID.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:20pm

      So, let me get this straight. The Democrats are arguing that their people, mimorities, are too dumb, too lazy, and too poor to get an ID, but they really want them to apply for food stamps, which requires some sort of ID. Republicans can afford and already have ID’s, therefore, they won’t be affected. So, as I was out on my own at 17, working, and had my own apartment, I was smart enough to go fill out a voters registration card, and show my ID at the voting booth, in 1984. But nowadays, we is too stupid and technology just won’t allow us poor stupid folk to get an ID.

      I guess we have come a long way baby, a loooong way. In another decade, the Dems will have us back to riding horses.

      I guess I better buy stock in the Buggy Whip company now, while it’s cheap.

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    • marine249
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 11:00pm

      @ AT TANAGRA
      I was out of school, out of the house and in th USMC at 17.

      When I turned 21 in 1960 I filled out a voter’s registration
      card and voted for Nixon. Then the dam+ demorats stole
      my vote.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 11:16pm

      @marine249
      Semper Fi Devil Dog. God we need Chesty now. I am Air Force Retired and work with a lot of former Jar Heads. My first vot was for Reagan. I had friends that couldn’t believe I would vote for him, but my answer was “He makes me feel good to be an American, and I feel a bonefide feeling of hope for the future.” Under Carter, all he made me feel was ashamed to be an American. I didn’t come in the military until I was 20, so, I did live on my own, pay taxes, bills, etc.

      I guess that is what ****** me off so much with the entilement society I see now, I have never been out of work my entire life, worked two jobs when I had to, and never ever had taken food stamps, even when, as an Airmen with a family, I was eligiable. I worked a second job delivering pizza, but I wasn’t going to take food stamps.

      I guess that is the difference in generations. I just want the Govt. to get out of my way, I can wipe my own butt, thank you.

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  • timmone
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 9:57pm

    How in the heck did Victoria Rodriguez fly to testify at this hearing if she did not have a photo ID? “Doesn’t have time” PPFFFFTTTT yea riiiiigggghhhhhttt. This sounds like an onion story as it’s super embarrassing for the department of justice.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:37pm

      Private jet, she didn’t need an ID.

      Anyone can get an ID, as long as you have a birth certificate……maybe if you are an illegal, ohhh, then you can’t vote. Dang.

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  • dublinthewagons
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 9:56pm

    A DC court to rule. Hand picked morons protecting their jobs.
    DOJ is worried about voter suppression and has done nothing about the black panters with weapons standing outside voting stations. The department of injustice needs to be on trial for treason.
    Texas is playing against a stacked deck. Mr. Abbott my hat is off to you. You are doing your best.
    Now the citizens must step up to the plate. Washington needs to stay out of Texas.

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  • FSM_47
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 9:55pm

    If YOU are voting for MY Representative I want YOU to prove YOU have the LEGAL right to do so.

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  • littlefish
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 9:48pm

    How making all males 18 -25 , show their selective service card . . .?
    Hmmnn. . . . .who enforces THAT Federal Law ??

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  • groundzero
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 9:47pm

    DEMOCRATICS has always been the party of OPPRESSORS. Continue to tell people they can’t do something. Sounds like Obama is trying to take the state of Texas in the elections to me. Nothing to do with people wanting integrity that their legal vote was truely counted and not being outweighed by fraudulent ones. I‘m sure the Judges will not take into account the right of the legal voter because voter fraud could only be proven to it’s fullest extent without ID checks!!

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  • flipper1073
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 9:46pm

    You have to have a Photo ID to
    Buy Beer ,Cigarettes, rent a movie,
    a Car, Drive,Rent or Buy a Home,
    Get food stamps or Welfare, Cash a Check.
    an on an on.
    But People can’t show a ID to Vote ?
    It‘s not about Voter ID It’s about Voter Fraud !
    It’s hard to show a Photo ID if Your DEAD.
    Or Bused in to Vote Multiple Times
    Or a Cartoon Character or Illegal Alien.
    I Can’t figure out why Obama an Holder
    are doing this in Texas He wont Win Texas
    even with Massive Voter Fraud.

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    • dublinthewagons
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:02pm

      The only thing Holder & OB need from Texas is an azz whippin.

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    • commonsenseguy
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:04pm

      yeah but, yeah,but, that is different because a commie said so.

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    • booger71
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:08pm

      And when you go to your mandated Dr.’s office yu have to have photo ID

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    • WaitOneMinute
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:14pm

      Don‘t forget gambling casino’s if you win! Probably the very necessary and highly popular pawn shops at the moment with today economy problems. I assume you need one if you win a lottery. I could name a dozen more also. Better yet other than voting have people name things you don’t need an ID for, it would be interesting.

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    • siguy62
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 11:25pm

      You left one out. You need a photo ID in order to prove to your Doctor that you are the insured person, whose name is on the card.
      Does this mean that Obamacar seeks to stop Blacks and Hispanics from getting healthcare?

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    • Kelly Henderson
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 11:55pm

      I hope you are right but the number of illegals in this country would scare people if they knew the true number.It wont take much to steal the election when you are talking about millions of them. And there are millions of them. That is why holder is trying to shove em up our a.. .

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  • mils
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 9:44pm

    It will harm no one…however, it may stop non-citizens from having a say/vote in the laws of our country. It goes without saying all the reasons an American would have at least one form of id…
    My grannie is 96, and has 7 forms of id with her picture on it…
    Latino voting power on the verge of growing?…great, show me you have a right to vote in my country, a right to determine what happens to me

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  • Baddoggy
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 9:43pm

    If the court sides with Holder and the DOJ, Texas should secede. But of course we have a SISSY for a Governor.
    Really, Texas should have pulled out of the Union many moons ago. I live here and we are ready to fight if the sorrysobs in Austin wake the hell up. We are a Nation to our own. We do not need a damn thing from the Federal Government.
    I say construct the walls around Texas and screw the rest of the world!!

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    • SON OF JEFFERSON
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:03pm

      You are right on Texas, the feds need your tax dollars much more than you need their EPA or so called Justice dept. and the regulations and restrictions on freedom which a countless number of other unconstituional arms of this central govt. If Texas or any other state suceeds from this insatiable federal mess I for one would relocate their and defend it with my life. We can’t change the damage already brought on us , all that is left is sucession.

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    • dublinthewagons
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:06pm

      Amen

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  • duke5015
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 9:43pm

    How are the poor, downtrodden, and destitute doing on buying vodka ? They sem to have litte trouble producing an i.d. in that case. Hard to believe anyone is able to spew this drap…

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  • dealer@678
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 9:42pm

    I live in Dallas and i dont want my vote nullified by some dam illegal mexican. Period

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    • fidel1234
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:02pm

      Well said brother,love it.

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    • dublinthewagons
      Posted on July 13, 2012 at 10:16pm

      The DOJ will have the new pack panthers stand outside the voting stations to keep illegal Mexicans from nullifying your vote. LMAO
      The federal government used to be a joke. Now it is the enemy.

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  • angelcat
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 9:39pm

    Some of the same people who say they can’t a photo ID to vote will go out of their way to get one in order to buy alcohol, fly, or get into a meeting the NAACP meeting this week or a townhall of one of the Democrats. It is only an imposition to get an ID when it comes to voting.

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on July 14, 2012 at 1:48pm

      Yep! Even at the most recent NAACP meeting in Houston, Eric Holder made sure the ID credentials were available, or they couldn’t get in.
      Monkey see, monkey do, only if it benefits Holders agenda.

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  • historyguy48
    Posted on July 13, 2012 at 9:39pm

    Comrades if BS was eatable, the DOJ would be feasting tonight!
    Instead our broken system will once again show just how broken it is!
    Common sense will not hold sway!
    Our Lords and Masters have spoken! I wonder what their game truly is? They allready have dead people voting, buse loads of people going from poll to poll to vote, and trunkloads of uncounted ballots. So what is the real reason for what they are doing?
    How have they sold us out now?

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