How Much of An Impact Will Faith & Religion Make in the 2012 Presidential Campaign?
- Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:05pm by
Billy Hallowell
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Without fail, religion always seems to solidify its place in political campaign seasons. Every electoral cycle, without fail, the vast majority of voters wish to see candidates who have strong roots in a faith tradition.
In the 2012 campaign, this sentiment became clear earlier this year, with candidates facing intense scrutiny and questioning regarding where they stand on God, creation, science, worship and almost every other subject that falls under the umbrella of the American religious experience.
GOP candidates, in particular, have fielded a variety of questions about their beliefs. From conspiracy theories surrounding the theory of “Dominionism,” to profiles on Herman Cain, Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry’s belief systems, the media are feeding a faith-savvy electorate with plenty of information about how the candidates’ worldviews have been shaped by their pastors and congregations.
While we have an idea, based on the aformentioned coverage and on past campaign cycles, that faith and religion will be a motivating force for a substantial portion of the population, how heavily these allegiances will weigh this year is yet to be seen.
In 2008, Barack Obama faced scrutiny after Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s fiery sermons hit YouTube. Considering the fury this faith controversy stirred, there‘s no telling what’s in store in in the coming months. Already, there was a minor uptick in 2012 faith drama when Rick Perry and Mitt Romney battled it out over anti-Mormon comments made by Pastor Robert Jeffress. Considering these issues, it will be intriguing to see how faith weaves its way into the political dialogue over the next 12 months.
On Tuesday, a new poll came out that provides some insight into just how important a candidate’s faith may be to his or her election prospects. The Public Religion Research Institute’s new study, entitled, “American Values Survey,” found that two-thirds of voters (67 percent) believe that it is very or somewhat important for a presidential candidate to have strong faith beliefs. Of this proportion, 39 percent claimed that it was “very” important, with the remaining 28 percent saying that it is “somewhat” important.
Interestingly, among those who have strong inclinations in this direction, they say what truly matters is that a candidate has strong religious beliefs (the beliefs, themselves, aren’t as important). About 19 percent of voters claim that they would be less likely to vote for a candidate if he or she had religious beliefs that were different from his or her own. This is a relatively small proportion, thus reaffirming the importance of faith in American politics.
When it comes to the top Republican candidates — Mitt Romney, Herman Cain and Rick Perry — GOP voters see Cain as having the most similar political views to their own. On the faith front, Rick Perry wins out, with Cain not trailing far behind. Mitt Romney, though, continues to have a major gap in relating to the American people when it comes to his faith. This, of course, may be due to a lack of public knowledge about the Mormon religion.
Outside of these findings, the study gauged a variety of other subjects. According to the research, 60 percent of Americans believe that “the distribution of wealth” should be more equal. Additionally, the findings seem to indicate major support for “the Buffet Rule,” which would raise taxes on those making $1 million per year or more (70 percent support this, with 27 percent opposing the measure). The entire report can be read here.
When it comes to 2012, it’s likely that both religious left and religious right groups will be out en force to try and garner as much support for the candidates associated with their beliefs as possible. As we’ve reported, the Obama campaign is already gearing up for its faith-based outreach. And Right Wing Watch, a blog that seeks to monitor conservatives in America, is lamenting the right’s apparent search for evangelical votes.
Conservatives have organized a major DVD event (i.e. accomplished through nationwide viewing parties) called “One Nation Under God” that will be occurring across America this Saturday. Here‘s the event’s description:
We’ve lost sight of our great heritage as a nation founded on Biblical truth, and the consequences are dire: schools are failing, the divorce rate is climbing, and our society is rife with scandal and corruption. It’s time to reclaim our Biblical heritage and bring God back to the center of American life. Where do we start?
On Saturday, November 12, United in Purpose presents One Nation Under God – a national, two-hour premiere DVD event featuring top American thinkers and political leaders who will bring the truth about God and America to people gathered in homes and churches across the nation.
Invite your family, friends and neighbors to gather in your home to watch One Nation Under God on Saturday, November 12. Together, you’ll learn how to view history and current events in light of God’s Word, and how to take action that aligns with His truth. You can make a difference – one person, one household, one neighborhood at a time! Tools, tips, and timelines for a successful party will be provided.
Among the presenters in the DVD presentation will be historian David Barton, James Dobson (founder of Family Talk) and Newt Gingrich, among others:
Already, leftist groups like RRW are frustrated by this effort to rally voters in preparation for the 2012 election. RRW explains:
“These house parties are part of an effort called Champion The Vote which seeks to register five million Religious Right voters before the 2012 election. The Champion The Vote effort is itself part of an even larger effort called United In Purpose, which seeks to mobilize forty million Religious Right voters over the next decade.”
Below, see a portion of Dobson’s interview, which RRW took particular issue with. After all, it maintains that the U.S. could lose God’s favor if the nation continues to drift away from Biblical values — a notion that RRW and other leftist groups may disagree with:
Recent polling data, mixed with efforts by both conservatives and liberals, showcase the importance of faith in candidate selection. While there are many who maintain that religion and politics should remain separate, running a successful campaign — at least in contemporary politics — seems to hinge, at least partially, on how one handles and markets his or her faith experience.
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Comments (91)
stockpicker
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:36pmThe new birth is necessary before a person can believe in Jesus Christ. To understand why, an examination of what the Bible teaches regarding the fall of man into sin and its consequences is necessary. When Adam ate the forbidden fruit in the Garden he sinned against God and died spiritually (Gen. 2:17). As the first man, Adam represented all mankind before God. When Adam fell, mankind fell. “Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned” (Rom. 5:12). One aspect of the curse that sin brought upon all mankind was a change of man’s heart from being good, holy, and upright to being evil, unholy, and corrupt. “Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually” (Gen. 6:5). A brief examination of the biblical teaching regarding unregenerate man will prove that regeneration is necessary before a person is enabled to believe in Jesus Christ, and that regeneration is something that only God can accomplish.
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:34pm“How much impact will faith and religion…” Doesn’t this question include Americans of different faiths?
Report Post »I’ts not just a question of voting for who is Christian enough, is it? I hope not.
GIDEON612
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 8:02pmAmen Stockpicker, and thank for your post.
As for the individual. I am sorry. This IS and always be a Christian nation, under God.
Like it or leave it, ….please
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 9:11pmGIDEON _ I will NEVER leave this nation which has in it’s constitution the beleif that peoples of all religions have the right to practice and pray to whom they please, an have served willingly without looking for a handout for school. I have never been anything but repectful to everyone of a different faith, as I handle folks on an individual basis. But you are very incorrect in saying that this is a Christian nation, as this is NOT a theocracy. There is a big difference between being a nation which has a large population who are of the Christian faith, and being a Christian nation. Are you one of those people who think that if a person is not Christian, they are not American? Read the constitution (or have someone read it to you) and know that you are no more American than I. By th way my simple friend, “under God” does not mean that this is a theocracy. Rather, the founders were expressing their devotion to their God AS INDIVIDUALS, and not implying that this is a Chritian nation. I don’t know you personally, but I take your comment as a great insult to my service to this nation, my continued service to my community, and my devotion to see our constitution restored to it’s rightful place. Finally, socialists like yourself are no different than the ones who claim to be Muslim.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 12:37am” How Much of An Impact Will Faith & Religion Make in the 2012 Presidential Campaign?”
The person I vote fro Will BE a Christain and will BE a NON-RINO!!!!
Report Post »CAIN 2012!!!!!
snooop1e
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 1:06amActually sin entered the world through one woman (Eve) not through one man. Eve ate of the tree of knowledge first and then convinced Adam to eat it as well. Not sure which Bible you are reading but sin did not enter the world through one man (Adam). One woman (Eve) tied the knot of disobedience and one woman (Mary) untied the knot through her obedience.
Report Post »WhiteFang
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 5:15pmsnooop1e,
Romans 5:12 says; That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned—. 13 For until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not charged against anyone when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless, death ruled as king from Adam down to Moses, even over those who had not sinned after the likeness of the transgression by Adam, who bears a resemblance to him that was to come.
15 But it is not with the gift as it was with the trespass. For if by one man’s trespass many died, the undeserved kindness of God and his free gift with the undeserved kindness by the one man Jesus Christ abounded much more to many. 16 Also, it is not with the free gift as it was with the way things worked through the one [man] that sinned. For the judgment resulted from one trespass in condemnation, but the gift resulted from many trespasses in a declaration of righteousness. 17 For if by the trespass of the one [man] death ruled as king through that one, much more will those who receive the abundance of the undeserved kindness and of the free gift of righteousness rule as kings in life through the one [person], Jesus Christ.
Eve is not the issue here because Adam was her God given authority head, and as such he had the authority to condemn her sin. If he had, we would be sanctified by his condemnation of her sin and we could continue to be perfect as a descendant of Adam. But sadly he failed
Report Post »WhiteFang
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 5:22pmsnooop1e,
Please read the above scripture carefully and slowly to get the real sense of it’s importance to our lives.
Romans 5:18 continues; So, then, as through one trespass the result to men of all sorts was condemnation, likewise also through one act of justification the result to men of all sorts is a declaring of them righteous for life. 19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man many were constituted sinners, likewise also through the obedience of the one [person] many will be constituted righteous. 20 Now the Law came in beside in order that trespassing might abound. But where sin abounded, undeserved kindness abounded still more. 21 To what end? That, just as sin ruled as king with death, likewise also undeserved kindness might rule as king through righteousness with everlasting life in view through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Report Post »LOJ
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:10pmTo those of us who live our lives for God and Faith, and not the World, it will make a Huge Difference…We are resolved to seek out, nominate, and uplift a candidate for President that the creator would elect himself… ( A Righteous man, who himself honors God)…..That may be impossible in today’s world, but it is sure worth a try!
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:23pmYeah you have faith don’t you? Do you really believe in the Bible? Then you must believe the things Jacob told his children when he gathered them together to tell them what would befall them in the later days? You don’t know yet what is happening to America do you? God is destroying it! And you know why? Because a young man (whose love didn’t wax cold)tried to raise his family according to the Lord, and because all Americans have waxed cold, they allowed a government to be created which destroyed that young man’s family. So God turned off the switch. You don’t know anything about the Bible.
Report Post »Ivehadenoughtofthisgovenmentcrap
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:58pmAmen….
Report Post »Blacktooth
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 5:01pmLOJ,
Your first sentence is raising my interest. “To those of us who live our lives for God and Faith, and not the World”. And then your comment endorses interest and involvement in the world’s affairs even saying that God would or should vote for a human leader for this nation. Would Jesus vote for or endorse a human leader?
Jesus was being tempted to forgo his allegiance to his Father and serve Satan and to involve himself in the “world”, its political system. But Jesus would not be tricked into accepting Satan’s empires that he controlled. The account says; “Again the Devil took him along to an unusually high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory, 9 and he said to him: “All these things I will give you if you fall down and do an act of worship to me.” 10 Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written, ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’” 11 Then the Devil left him, and, look! angels came and began to minister to him.”
- Matthew 4:8
So, would it be proper from God’s standpoint, for a Christian to get involved with the “world” that Satan controls? Jesus did say his followers would be no part of the world. – John. 17:14
Something to think about.
Report Post »pamela kay
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 2:27amI have to have faith that we will defeat the demons that confront us. This should make our faith stronger, not weaken us into submission. That is why they hate and fear us. That is why they believe they must destroy us. They underestimate the power of God and that will be what takes them down. I am not saying that it will be easy or that we will not have to make scarifices. There may be lives that will be lost, but in the end we will conquer those who make the mistake of believing that they can replace God or become God.
Report Post »bankerpapaw
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:09pmThe liberals and Obama need to realize there is only one who deserves our worship: Jesus Christ.
Report Post »Thurston Bell
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:04pmToday, Glenn is 6 months behind me and has closed 15 years in 12 Months.
His point about Whitfield is inarguable,.
What this opens up is the question of Biblical values, with People like Dobson on one side, and people like that guy speaking the Apostate Social Gospel in the Tone of HAL9000 from the Film 201 A Space Oddessy, which he loves to mock and I think it is great.
The Problem is that the True Biblicism and Christianity is wholly ignored, and I say this as a former Catholic, former Pentacosal, who has studdied with an Orthodox Rabbi.
When from Whitfield history is reopened to resolve the big disconnect of where we are today from what David Barton reveals, we see tha there is a group written out of history, from Mass., to Virginia effecting Henry and Jefferson, to Alamance, to the First NA REpublic Wautauga, to King’s Mountain, to the Third NA Republic (Texas), and then to the whole world.
Their blood still cries from the ground in NC, spilled by the Government of William Tryon. Exiled and hated for revealing the GOSPEL of JESUS CHRIST is the only thing that is real in all the universe.
Now they are so few, they are, the Independent Fundamental Baptists.
THey pray the HOLY SPIRIT visits ALL to then change the course of this nation to reason of G-D and sanity.
Report Post »DebbieFisher
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:02pmI am an anti-Obama liberal who (here we go agian!) bases her liberal beliefs on Biblical principles laid out explicitly in the Bible: the highest possible personal liberty for individuals and societies; the recognition that we are liable for the common well-being of self and others; that all governments are intended to first of all protect the peoples’ “life, liberty,“ and the material goods that we tend to associate with ”the pursuit of happiness”. One other thing: I believe that in addition to the governments all being answerable in the end to the people that they “rule”, all governments that are or that have ever existed will be answerably to an Almighty God in the Day of Judgment.
I have not seen or heard tell yet of ONE candidate in the entire swarming mass of “declareds” and “potentials” that has made clear his/her beliefs on the points of above paragraph. We, the US of A, in the past had been blessed as not other nation in hsitory since the times of David and Solomon in the Near East more than 3,000 years ago. As Dr. Dobson said, we did not deserve it, but our God blessed us anyhow. I remember some awareness of this singular blessing in my childhood years. That feeling is gone now.
IF we can peaceably expel the Obama crowd through regular elections, and IF we can firnd a candidate who will OPENLY AND PUBLICLY place his own trust in God, we may get a brief reprieve from total collapse and judgment like King Josiah in Judea ca. 650 B.C
IF NOT
Report Post »LOJ
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:26pmI totally agree with you, We need to elect a President based on Moral Values, honesty, Ethics, and one who will uphold the Law of our Land and our constitution…The fact that we have abandoned God’s principles for the Unborn, Marriage Between a man and a woman, the values of paying off debt, instead of borrowing from other countries, abandoning Israel..Genesis 12: 3 I will bless those who bless you and whoever curses you I will curse. Look how this administration has treated Israel and Netanyahu… Leviticus 18:22 Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman that is destestable. Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. ( Gay Marriage, Homosexuality, Sodomy ) Mark 10: 13 Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these..(abortion.) Isaiah 9:6 For a Child will be born to us, A son will be given to us; and the Government will rest on his shoulder; And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. There will be no end to the increase of his government or of the Peace on the Throne of David, and over his Kingdom, To establish it and uphold it with( Justice and Righteousness) from then on and evermore….Washington does not comprehend this, and the branches of the government will not work….God is angry with sin…He has given us everything and look what man has given back
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 9:37pmJoe 1234 Glad to see you’re back. You seemed to go off the reservation there for awhile with some of your comments.Especially on that new Navy boat story. Whew! Who knew?
It is more blessed to give than to receive.
– Acts 20:35
God loves a cheerful giver.
– 2 Corinthians 9:7
He that hath pity upon the poor lendeth unto the Lord.
– Proverbs 19:17
Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”
– Luke 6:37-38
One man gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty.
– Prov. 11:24
With malice toward none; with charity for all.
– Abraham Lincoln
It is one of the most beautiful compensations of this life that no man can sincerely try to help another without helping himself. –Ralph Waldo Emerson
Try not to get hung up on the government. It’s earthly. And for you to use it to absolve you from hsi Word is an affront to the Lord. I know because he told me so..
BTW, I can help you with that “ephemera”l definition . . .it’s the thigh bone.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 9:42pm“Joe 1234 Glad to see you’re back. You seemed to go off the reservation there for awhile with some of your comments.Especially on that new Navy boat story. Whew! Who knew?”
hey gomer, I’m JOE1234 not JOE 1234…thats probably you, trying to be cute..you’re not the first liberal loser that has tried to be me…but you libs will never be as intelligent, or as good lookin…
oh your verses just prove my point….those indicate individual giving…not FORCED confiscation of your income by the government to give to others….
I would say get a clue, but its not possible in your case.
oh and uh tell us all those government programs to help people that have actually worked….take a look at detroit for an example of liberal policies….its a democrat field of dreams….a ruin…where people are uneducated, and easily led…they keep voting democrat…amidst the ruins…
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 9:44pm“BTW, I can help you with that “ephemera”l definition . . .it’s the thigh bone.”
hey moron its EPHEMERAL…
Definition of EPHEMERAL
1
: lasting one day only
2
: lasting a very short time
duhhhhhhhhhhh
Report Post »Arcangel Michael
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:00pmJesus, I trust in You
http://thedivinemercy.org/message/devotions/chaplethistory.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AySdEJx50Z0&feature=related
Report Post »Penn
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:50pm“…the Constitution of the United States contemplates and is fitted for; such a state as Christianity alone can form. It contemplates a state of society in which strict integrity, simplicity, and purity of manners, wide diffusion of knowledge, well-disciplined passions and wise moderations, are the general characteristics of the people. These virtues, in our nation, are the offspring of Christianity, and without the continued general belief of its doctrines and practice of its precepts, they will gradually decline and perish.”
Report Post »Commentary on the adoption of the Constitution upon George Washington’s arrival in Philadelphia to assume his duties as President.
Quite clear I would think.
Chomsky
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:50pmHopefully none. America is not a theocracy.
Do you guys want to be like Iran? It is a theocracy.
Nuff said.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:01pmWell said. And it is interesting to note how Christianity was left out of the report title, but not surprisingly is the only religion referred to.
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 9:54pmJoe 1234 You WANT a theocracy right here.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 9:57pm“Joe 1234 You WANT a theocracy right here.”
gomer, its JOE1234…
and yeah I do…I want Jesus to return and set up His Kingdom….the sooner, the better….
I’m sure you feel the same way, right?? *smirk*
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 2:12amJoe, Joe, dear sweet little Joey. I have news for you. you might even call it good news. Jesus is already here. He’s in the world, Joe. And he’s in my life and in my heart. And it‘s so sad that he’s not in yours. maybe if you weren’t such a dick He would want to hang out with you. You know, make himself known to you. There’s only one thing for to do, Brother Joe, mend your rotten ways.
Report Post »StonyBurk
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 7:45amTO those who would level all religions and make it a matter of State policy to hold all in utter indifference–to those who in stiff necked rebellion choose to ignore America’s Founding history …”this is a Christian nation…” –to those who misread the terms used in the First Amendment /and ignore the laws and commentaries written closer to the adoption of the first amendment in our Bill of Rights. You have every right to your atheism and infidelity – your actions betray you-for the tree is known by its fruits.It is NOT a theocracy I wish to see in America–but a return to what was established 1620–1931 (when the unanimous US supreme Court decision Church of the Holy Trinity v. the United States (Feb.1892 decided was upheld by judicial review.US v. Macintosh) As published in 1905 in the book edited by Justice David Brewer titled The United States a Christian Nation inspired by the findings of the supreme Court in Holy Trinity case– That is what I pray could be rediscovered in America.We have never been a theocracy–neither have we been as godless/sic secular as this House/Nation Divided has become in my lifetime.
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 10:11amJoe, Joe, Joe . . . I KNOW you’re hot my brother. To be so would require you to love Jesus, and clearly you don’t. Or you won’t. But that doesn’t mean I should stop trying to bring you into His grace. Just listen to yourself – the anger and resentment, the obvious longing for real meaning in your life. You’re tired of living a living an empty existence, walking around an empty husk, a half a man. You don’t need to convince me or anyone else of that. It’s obvious. But the solution is right here, Joe. Right ow, Joe. Don’t put off bringing Jesus into your heart just so you can drink and whore around on the weekend. That’s just not right. Mend your rotten ways, Joe. Ask Jesus to come into your life. And He will.
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 11:54amNo Freudian slip. I DO think you’re hot. I’m attracted to the dumb ones. You’re so easily manipulated.
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:45pmWithout God in our life. we all could be an Obama!
Report Post »I SPY
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:43pmNobama‘s small gods can’t save him from God’s voting wrath in 2012.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:41pmTheir relationship with the God of Israel would be a turning point. Yes!
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:40pmReading the mail I can understand the election of Obama!
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:35pmGod doesn’t hold Christians responsible for the wrong person getting elected but He does hold us responsible for standing for His righteousness, which includes voting for leaders who have and will honor Him and praise His name and not be PC! God takes down kings and sets up Kings, and that goes for presidents too, sometimes he has given His people an evil King people just to show them their lack of wisdom without seeking Him and His Word!
Report Post »gwssacredcause
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:56pmOur enemies will make us stronger or dead, it is for us to choose with God’s guidance.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:30pmPeople have so many things upside-down. It says in the Bible that in the end ‘people’s love for all will wax cold.‘ When people buy their children all sorts of toys on Christmas even though their child doesn’t truly understand the concept of Jesus, it’s because their love has waxed cold. When people give people handouts rather than hand-ups it’s because their love have waxed cold. When people can not talk about negative things it’s because they are all stocked up on negativity because their love has waxed cold. When people don’t tell their neighbor immediately how much they have made them mad, but choose to gossip instead, and the neighbor also wouldn’t listen anyways, it‘s all because people’s love has waxed cold. I love everyone, and because of it I’m not afraid to tell them how much almost all people make me puke.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:36pmWhen people began smiling in Photographs was about the same time people’s love became truly waxed cold.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:41pmAnd that’s why almost all people are currently more unto apes.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:58pmPeople do not fully appreciate the gravity of what they will be facing in the not too distant future. If people have waxed cold as I have said their love has waxed cold in good times, then how much colder will they become in bad times? They will despise each other. There will be atrocities followed by atrocities.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:01pmAnd you can blame anyone who supports the idea of Fiat currency because that’s where the motivation came for the Nanny State.
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:29pmDaily Bible reading helps a person to recognize those people who make post and do not understand anything about God or faith!
Report Post »ares338
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:28pmHow high is high? Who cares? We just need a president who will follow the constitution!
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:27pmFaith will only have an effect in the upcoming elections only to those who have faith, to those who only say they have faith but actually don’t, it will not have any effect!
Report Post »That’s why in the book of James we read: FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD!
lukerw
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:26pmHopefully… Faith & Religion will not play a role… and we will just elect the best person for the job!
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:51pmI think only a politician with faith can truly understand the true value of the Constitution.
Report Post »obamabirthcertificate.net
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 5:10pm@ Vechorik
You are absolutely correct. The socialist usurper Obama has repeatedly omitted “endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights” in varying ways when speaking in reference to the Declaration of Independence.
If there’s no God, then our rights cease to be unalienable and instead become mere privileges granted or revoked among men.
Constitution, Art. 2, Sec. 1, “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible … .”
Exempting a “citizen” from being a “natural born citizen” proves they aren’t equal, or no exemption was needed. Being not less than nor equal, a NBC must be more than the minimum requisite for citizenship then, which was US birth to a US citizen parent. Only US birth to US citizen parents (plural) is greater, thus defining a natural born citizen.
The Supreme Court agreed in Minor v. Happersett, 1874. “The Court held that Minor was a member of the “class” of persons who were natural born citizens. They defined this class as those born in the US to “parents” (plural) who were citizens.” – Leo Donofrio, JD.
http://www.ObamaBirthCertificate.net
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 5:17pmobamabirthcertificate.net
You know perfectly well that the Supreme Court made it very clear in their decision on Minor v Happersett that they were NOT setting a precedent by establishing a complete and exclusive definition of natural born citizen,
“Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts.”
And that there is no definition in the Constitution, and that the Supreme Court finally settled the issue in 1898 when they said that anyone who was born here is a natural born citizen, and that has been the law of the land ever since. And you should know that even if you were right on the legal theory, no candidates are going to sue, because they know that no judge can rule against what the Congress and the Supreme Court say the law is.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:24pmI would like to have a true Christian in the Oval office, one dedicated to serving God and country.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:51pmGeorge Washington: Every person takes his Faith with him into Office!
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:24pmEven though liberals try to HUMILIATE people into keeping quiet about their religious beliefs, I think when it comes to VOTING and issues, religion plays a huge part. That’s why same sex marriage initiative FAILED in CA, of all places! Every time a Conservative candidate even MENTIONS God.. they get attacked and ridiculed.
Report Post »SaraD
Posted on November 16, 2011 at 2:31amThis is exactly why I am not a conservative. Why have gov‘t out of people’s lives if it just moves into your bedroom? No thanks! Thank God the US is secular, I am an atheist and I love this country. (unpopular in this crowd I realize).
Report Post »Even Pat Roberson said the republican canidates are doomed because they are too extreme. Santorum wants to eliminate birth control completely for example. There is no middle which is going to get Obama back in office.
TumbleBumble
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:23pmSpeaking for myself, the most important thing is their relationship with God and how they will apply it in their leadership of the country.
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:22pmBari Shabazz is Malcolm X’s son
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/11/is-obama-really-bari-shabazz-fugitive.html
A MUST Read…
http://terribletruth.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/bari%e2%80%b2-barry-barack
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:17pmPeople don’t even know what kind of standards they are praying to. Either way the next President will take care of the Machine and put the shaft to the people. I know the Bible doesn’t represent Socialism, but guess what? I can still be spiritually content in a Socialism operated by Socialist. I know I can be spiritually content because I have lasted this long in the on-off-again Fascist U.S, with half the government being Socialist. It‘s just the rich people who don’t want it, because they were dumb enough to not see this coming 30 years ago and still pursued getting wealthy.
Report Post »felix
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:16pmA lot !
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:15pmPresident Eisenhower once said, “Our government makes no sense unless it is founded on a deeply-felt religious faith-and I don’t care what it is.”
Apparently not much has changed. Americans still prefer a candidate who reveres a book dating from the Bronze Age and believes in all manner of preposterous miracles to an honest and sensible seeker who confesses ignorance of supernatural entities and has no idea what happens to us when we die. Our country doesn’t suffer from a lack of religion but from an excess of it.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:46pmIf that’s true, the Soviet Union should still be functioning as a world superpower.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:20pmJoe:
The greatest miracle of all is that God has allowed people to survive into the 21st century who take pride in denial of what happens in the real world. On second thought, though, perhaps what’s “in excess” is not so much religion itself as exaggerated deference to it, such as you see even among liberals, Democrats and many socialists.
Gonzo:
Many of the world’s most successful societies are secular, or nearly so. Most of the countries of Europe, with all their current difficulties, still enjoy the rule of law and are functioning democracies. Most of them have better educational systems and exhibit a greater degree of rise-or-fall social mobility than the US. Individual freedoms are not seriously compromised, with a few exceptions like Holocaust denial and gun rights. Yes, their entitlement systems are overblown, and they will have to take steps to correct that, but without the labyrinthine Federal-state complications and special-interest lobbying that distorts reform effort here.
The Soviet parallel is thought-provoking. Are you suggesting that God brought down the USSR as punishment for its official atheism? Or that Russians, Ukrainians, Lithuanians, etc., turned against communism because of its militant anti-Christian propaganda, rather than its frustration of national independence, its failure to deliver widespread consumer prosperity, and its tendency to send people off to forced labor for no reason?
Report Post »obamabirthcertificate.net
Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:39pmReligion and faith imply absolute adherence to inviolable moral principles, not selective convenient imperatives.
Obama’s birth certificate alleges “where” he was born and his parent’s citizenship “when” he was born. Now these equally vital “facts” can’t be altered or hidden! Unless fake, his Kenyan father inescapably precludes eligibility as a natural born citizen by not being born within US jurisdiction to TWO US citizen parents.
Candidates for President, each having “legal standing” are obligated to sue Obama for failure to qualify as a natural born citizen, or be dismissed as untrustworthy!
Constitution, Art. 2, Sec. 1, “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible … .”
Exempting a “citizen” from being a “natural born citizen” proves they aren’t equal, or no exemption was needed. Being not less than nor equal, a NBC must be more than the minimum requisite for citizenship then, which was US birth to a US citizen parent. Only US birth to US citizen parents (plural) is greater, thus defining a natural born citizen.
The Supreme Court agreed in Minor v. Happersett, 1874. “The Court held that Minor was a member of the “class” of persons who were natural born citizens. They defined this class as those born in the US to “parents” (plural) who were citizens.” – Donofrio, JD.
http://www.ObamaBirthCertificate.n
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