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‘If You Succeed, You Are Using More of Government Services’: Liberal Guest Gives Unbelievable Rant on Megyn Kelly’s Show

Sometimes it‘s difficult not to feel sorry for the Democrats who have to defend President Obama’s recent argument that government is the entity responsible for the success of businesses. That certainly is the case with respect to Christopher Hahn, who offered a series of increasingly implausible excuses and arguments for the President’s demonstrably false statement on a panel with Fox News host Megyn Kelly today.

Hahn, who was tasked with arguing the liberal position opposite conservative radio host David Webb, started off by claiming that the Romney campaign was distorting President Obama’s actual meaning, which was…rather like what Romney has been saying it was, namely that no one succeeds purely on their own and that there has to be an “environment for success” (whatever that means) fostered by the government, and therefore government should get some of the credit. This is a more moderate statement than Obama’s apparent belief that government should get all the credit, but not by much.

Webb fired back using examples of entrepreneurs such as Henry Ford, who still managed to come up with original ideas that made his business possible, regardless of what the government did. It was at this point that Hahn’s argument transformed from dodgy but plausible to outright silly.

“Henry Ford would not have been Henry Ford had there not been roads being built!” Hahn exploded.

“That is a false notion,” Webb fired back.

No kidding. The interstate highway system wasn‘t built until 9 years after Henry Ford’s death, and the model T was originally built and marketed before Woodrow Wilson was even President. If Hahn was trying to make the case that activist government creates an “environment for success,” he was doing a poor job of it.

It was at this point that Megyn Kelly interjected, “If I take risk and take a business and it succeeds and I make over 250 or 200 [thousand], then he wants me to pay more taxes. If I take risk and build a business and it doesn’t succeed, then I get to stay at the same rate. But both people, you know, both people in this hypothetical scenario used the same infrastructure, took the same risk, created the same business, but one has to pay more — why? Because he or she was successful.”

Hahn’s response has to be heard to be believed. “Theoretically, if you succeed, you are using more of government services. You are benefiting more from government services. What separates us from Uganda is we have a functioning government that provides for its citizens, specifically, stability. And I’ve heard conservatives crying for three years now about stability in this country, about the President is not leading to stabilitizing (sic) the tax rates, and certainty, what we have with our government is certainty.”

Now, notice those first two sentences. “If you succeed, you are using more of government services.” How on earth does this follow?  It seems to us that successful people pay more to prop up the government, not the other way round, or is Hahn assuming every business works like Solyndra? Moreover, the argument that if you are successful, you are benefiting more from government services strikes us as rather similar to saying that if a student gets an A, that means they learned more from the teacher. That might be true in some contexts, but the student also could have done independent reading on their own, or might just be so smart that they can infer information without being taught it. In other words, this argument does precisely what Hahn is arguing President Obama didn’t mean to do – that is, obviate individual achievement.

Watch the panel below, courtesy of Mediaite. Fair warning, you may get angry.

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  • sndrman
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:58pm

    when you suspend disbelief we are entertained………….when facts and truth doesn’t matter and you can bend the curve,well welcome to liberalism…………so the people running the chief talking bull in massachusetts campaign must now be in cahoots…………LOL it would be funny if not so stupid..

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 7:19pm

      Incredible, the desperation of the leftists continues to grow by the hour. Pathetic to the extreme, and yet they still are dangerous, as when they decide all is lost, they may go for broke and Obama go for the dictatorship.

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    • GeorgieJo
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 7:29pm

      Chris Handout is a typical lefty kook who has been brainwashed by Chucky Scoooomer.
      The left are getting crazier BY THE DAY.
      Thank you Mr Webb!!!!

      OMG 2012

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    • yougottabekidding
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 7:32pm

      Notice how one of these idiots says something so incredibly stupid
      and they all pile on the stupidity. It’s like reality does not exist for them

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    • seeker9
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 7:45pm

      Those libs are spin crazy! All this amounts to redistribution – take from the productive and successful, and give to the non-productive. This creates an incentive to be non-productive and is punishment for being successful. This situation cannot work. The expected result would be far more non-productive demanding ever more from a declining productive people. Libs seem to have some sort of mental impairment that stops rationality.

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    • PrfctlyFrank
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 7:46pm

      Listen, the fact that this fool is on any program at all is testament to the lack of discretion on the part of any network or program that allows him a voice. Christopher Hahn is such a complete drooling sycophant for obama that he’s embarrassing. I have personally witnessed this idiot get caught red mouthed lying through his teeth to support a point and yet a week or so later, there he is, doing it again in front of a national audience.. UNBELIVABLE!!

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    • 000degrees
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 7:46pm

      Be cautious not to fall into the the trap that the outrageous of today is out done and not as outrageous tomorrow therefore seeming kind of acceptable……..

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    • Gold Coin & Economic News
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 8:04pm

      Christopher Hahn is nothing but a bomb thrower. He’s even more rabid than James Carville, if that’s possible. Obama‘s statement that You didn’t build a business is equally ridiculous:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiwap4MDFpg

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    • JimCDew
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 8:05pm

      So the roads and bridges are made by government from the taxes of the wealthy and all the non-tax payers get to use them. When are the untaxed going to pay THEIR fair share?

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    • Treaty
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 8:11pm

      I didn’t build the sewer lines under my house so I guess I should give credit to the government for a successful flush in the morning?

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    • Uranium Wedge
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 8:31pm

      Small businesses succeed in spite of government, not because of it.
      What a dumbass. His way of thinking might have something to do with that huge dent on the side of his head.

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 8:36pm

      Liberals will do and say anything to get someone else to pay their bills…….that is the bottom line.

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    • booger71
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 8:43pm

      That funny, when Ford began building cars, most of the roads were dirt.

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    • dublinthewagons
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 8:50pm

      Democrats look for one of their own to make a really stupid remark and they all want to run with it.
      How do they exist¿¿¿¿¿¿

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    • Wolfgang the Gray
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 8:58pm

      If Obama wins in Nov, I think it will be time to split into two countries, the liberal socialists and the conservative constitutionalists. They can feed off each other like all the other failed communist countries. Then we can prosper keeping the principles that our Founders setup.

      Any American citizen who believes the crap Obama, Hahn, Pelosi, and the rest of their ilk are trowelling out, they deserve to be the serfs under King Obama.

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    • yougottabekidding
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 9:12pm

      booger71

      A mere formality!
      They were called cow paths

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    • kapnkd
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 9:30pm

      In reply to “SNOW”: Obozocommie IS in the process of going for the dictatorship!!!!

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    • Silversmith
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 9:59pm

      Seems like loud is the new true for progressives. Can’t believe this is their choice.

      Silversmith

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    • CultureWarriors
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 10:02pm

      It’s just another in the long list of examples of the FACT that liberals are not only mentally ill, they average 30 IQ points less than normal, rational people. I don’t think these idiots realize that the railroads built their own lines and roads and bridges were built mostly by contracting companies not the government (at the expense mostly of local governments not the fed. gov.) AND the government has ruined a once great education system. There are aprox. 47%, mostly liberals, that are parasites and don’t even pay taxes, in fact most of them are takers. I guarantee those losers had NOTHING to do with making America great. It is an indisputable fact that anyone who believes business owners didn’t build their own businesses is a MORON. It’s also obvious that liberals are a clear and present danger to America.

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    • oneshiner
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 10:26pm

      There’s no fool like a Hahn fool. Even fools should feel embarrassed telling such lies.

      That’s all the democrats are good at………..telling lies, as Joe Wilson said, “you lie”
      Love catching these fools in lies, like his Hahn fool, Deb Wasserman Schultz, O, etc.

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    • Puddle Duck
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 10:46pm

      This kind of thinking with regards to Gov‘t economic policy is precisely why any nation that has undertook the Marxist experiment and taken it to it’s fullest expression has ended in spectatcular failure (without exception). Punishing success is, to anyone with an ounce common sense, while at the same time rewarding failure is not only a recipe for disaster, but in a nation well versed and founded on solid business principles, monumentally stupid, totally irresponsible and most of all treasonous. Chris Hahn and the other liberal mouthpieces in the MSM are painting themselves into a corner that no amount of spin will allow them to escape from. Nov 6th can’t arrive soon enough……..I have no doubt that if Romney wins and the Hill is populated with enough conservatives that the end of this upside down world the left has created the last 6 years will come to an end.

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    • Roberto G. Vasquez
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 11:04pm

      @SNOWLEOPARD

      What is happening is that most of the Demos are taking lying lessons from Nancy P. and Debbie W., so nothing they say has to make sense. In other words the “Flat-earthers” are back!

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 11:27pm

      Some of the largest companies are in DemocRat camp. The reason is that cronyism is alive and well and they use government services with a reckless abandon, by lobbying and “you scratch mine, I scratch yours”. It’s for them a default modus operandi, and for Hahn, this is what he seems to consider “normal”, “doesn’t everybody doing it?”

      No. Not everybody is doing it. I myself keep as far from any hint of a government as 20 miles pole. I don’t need anything from it, and would love to see the reciprocal approach from it, though I can’t escape taxes. That is all involvement I’ve got with the government, in toto. I am not an exception, there is millions of us.

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    • Lamarr01
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 2:10am

      Many of the wealthy occupations don’t produce anything and barely use roads, bridges or aqueducts the government so generously provides:

      1. Product liability lawyer. Find a product and sue the manufacturer. This only requires one trip to Mississippi to get the most generous settlement.

      2. Bernie Madoff investment advisor. At it takes is a phone, fax machine, office computer and a laser printer to print off the the false financial statements. This may require using the U.S. Postal system.

      3. Investment Banker. Trade derivatives using other people’s money. Requires internet access. The tax payers will cover your losses.

      4. Personal Injury. Fall down in a casino. Requires a lawyer.

      5. Drug transporter. Walk drugs across the U.S. border. Requires a good pair of shoes.

      6. Get a government grant. Think of a name for a company using the words: solar, renewable, energy or Green. Fill out a grant request on the Department of Energy website. May require internet access and a foreign bank account.

      Obviously, the high-income jobs of the future will produce and consume as little as possible.

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 2:43am

      I can’t believe their (LACK OF) logic !! OUR taxes pay for roads/bridges/schools. In states where GOP is in charge those things work, in DEM states everything looks like Detroit or California with the bankruptcies and the gutless cave-ins to Unions. How’s that working out?
      The people who PAY all the taxes (and don’t tell me the others have payroll taxes, right…and most of them get those back +)… the people who pay all the taxes, employ all the people are not “people using up most of the resources” Incredible. I can’t say I like that guy too much, but now I’m beginning to feel sorry for him. HERE is the solution: What (believe it or not) Clinton came up with when he was President: They don’t get welfare unless they are working. If they can’t find private sector jobs, they must work 40 hours week for City or State. WHY NOT??!! There is no down side to that…except now that the Commie twerp in the WH has ‘gutted’ the welfare laws. Calling massages and dance lessons “work”. All he is doing is making gutless/characterless/enslaved people. I can’t wait until he is kicked out!!! PS: McCain only only provided TWO YEARS of tax returns. Hellfire, we can‘t even see Obama’s college records and he’s worried about a man who has already served as a Governor ??? What else you got,Obama?? more Class warfare?

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    • mersey
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 4:15am

      One way to put this to day. Have a survey or poll done of large and small business and see if they view the government as helpful or a hindrance to their success.

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    • ocrick
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 4:32am

      Hey Phony Christian GOPinheads, try becoming a Billionaire in Bangladesh…………..

      Much easier in the USA USING Govt. infrastructure….

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    • SEPARATENOW
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 6:32am

      @WOLFGANGTHEGRAY

      I have been saying the following since before Obama was President: “We have nothing in common with these people. They are in constant revolution against the Constitution. If we do not get away from them, they will be the end of us. Separate now!”

      Your viewpoint couldn’t be more correct. We no longer share the basic understanding of what is right and wrong or even true and false. Nothing remains tying us together, but the dire need for secession from these neo-communist fools. Separate now!

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    • little big man
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 6:44am

      I‘m sure if Henry Ford needed to He would have built the roads if the Govt wasn’t doing it already.
      Oh and Mr liberal Ford was paying taxes to help the govt build those roads so yes Ford did build the roads along with all americans. where does this idiot liberl think the “govt” got the money to biuld said roads?.

      Oh I know the road fairy.

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    • johnjamison
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 7:07am

      Someone should tell that idiot that without henry ford there would be no need for DOT. Henry Ford created government jobs and means for the government to tax the people 10 ways to sunday not the other way around. Henry‘s Ford’s gift to the world was a curse to liberty.
      Fact is henry ford’s invention could drive on the ground. More over even the roads the government made were mostly on trails cut out by private citizen traffic.

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 7:24am

      I guess this guy doesn’t understand history. Roads were built because of Henry Ford. He was selling cars, creating demand for a road in the first place. If the roads were never built, we would just have had 4×4 monster trucks earlier.

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    • USPATRIOT101
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 8:05am

      When Government services are mentioned, I agree, there are many nonessential “hurdles” government puts in our way to raise “revenue”.We must navigate these to the tune of huge $$$$$

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 8:18am

      “defend President Obama’s recent argument that government is the entity responsible for the success of businesses” But obviously not difficult to lie about it. As this is not what the President said.

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    • dcnatl
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 8:52am

      what is amazing is that Obama referred to it as “This Great American System”, its called capitalism…so is one to infer that he thinks capitalism is GREAT.

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    • johnjamison
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 9:02am

      jROOK,
      What the socialist in cheif just did was move the everyone gets a trophy philosophy of his party. To even the winner didn’t win philosophy. The person who wins a race only wins because someone made a shoe….WTF.
      Most people who achieve success did so from high risk,hard work,and good business sense those are the facts.Bill Gates built a computer in his parents garage=hard work,he then invested his money into patented and promoting=high risk,he then took his profits to further promote and expand his produces quality=good business sense= all that equals=billion.
      On a smaller scale my uncle built a dead rise,and 300 crab pots=highy risk,he then worked those pots and boat for several season=hard work , he saved as much as he could after paying bills until he could build and set up another boat and put that boat to work=good business sense when he past away two years ago he had seven boats three sons and two daughters he put through college and was pretty much a millionaire.
      Crap pure unadulterated crap is what the president said. And anyone that would defend that should leave or be thrown out of America and let history forget we at one time were men of the same nation.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 9:02am

      JCROOK, Below is the paragraph from 0bama’s speech, this is exactly what he said word for word. Read it then try to tell us that we are making it up.
      “If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business. you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.”
      To read his entire speech, just tag this link. We do know exactly what he said. By the way, the government in any form owes it’s existence to the taxpayers, especially the successful, and successful business people who pay exponentially more. Still, these governments do not much more than piss away the taxpayer funds in an attempt to buy votes rather than doing what they are supposed to do. Our roads and bridges should not be in the shape they are. They should have been properly maintained all along with the taxes collected for exactly that. But, where did that money go? Take a guess how Democrats spent it.
      http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/07/did-obama-say-if-youve-got-a-business-you-didnt-build-that/

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    • Taquoshi
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 9:03am

      Treaty, about that sewer under your house. My parent’s house had a perfectly functional septic system that worked well for more than twenty five years. Then the town decided that because it was in a 25 year flood zone, everyone on my parent’s road HAD TO tie into the town sewage system. (Back story, the government was giving the town mondo dollars for each house added to the sewer system.) So, they were forced to tie in and had a sewer installation assessment that just got paid off last year. Now my brother pays the “sewer assessment ” (a.k.a. tax ) for merely having the sewer there. I bet if I went back and looked at the amount of interest they paid over the years on that “assessment” it would be about $25K. So, no, I don‘t buy the idea that they got a free ride on someone else’s back. They paid for that sewer tie in, they paid royally.

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    • JohnnyMidknight
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 9:18am

      Actually Christopher Hahn is partially correct. Under a progressive government, they choose who wins and loses based on which companies support the ones that are in power. Many companies would not be as powerful as they are with bailouts and government buying their stocks to rescue & protect union workers.

      However, this is not the case for 95% of all other businesses that a made (whether successful or doomed to failure). It is true capitalism for the small business and crony capitalism for the progressive elites and their friends. They will insure you are not successful if you hold values against them… Hence Gibson Guitars raids or when Bank of America dropped McMillian (a reputable gun manufacturer) for political purposes.

      What Obama and Hahn are saying is in their “perfect” America, you will only be successful because the power that be allow you to be. So, you owe it to them.

      Not to mention that they are also responsible for the failure of businesses and the inability for new business getting started due to over regulation and government oversight. But Obama will blame the unfairness of the system, which is one that he is perpetuating. We need every American to wake up to their hypocrisy. Keep speaking the truth and keep love in your heart, even for your enemy. They know not what they do.

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 9:23am

      Mytheos, seriously to you even read your own stuff “No kidding. The interstate highway system wasn‘t built until 9 years after Henry Ford’s death, and the model T was originally built and marketed before Woodrow Wilson was even President.” Interstate highways were not the only and first roads that were built by federal, state and local governments. And yes successful businesses CONTINUE to use infrastructure such as roads, airports, shipping ports, communications, etc. so it follows they should invest in prior, current and future maintenance and improvements. And yes the risk of failure has to be spread across everyone, a fact that is conveyed in the tax code where the individuals who’s businesses fail can apply those loses to gains they have elsewhere and lower the tax burden.

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    • mils
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 9:25am

      Anytime I see this man I know it’s going to be a liberal rant..and i mute…he’s ridiculous..

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    • commonsensefreethinker1
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 9:37am

      Hey Chris, I there was no air you couldn’t breath! You are a *ucking odiot for defending OHbummers arrogant and ignorant blah, blah.

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    • JohnnyMidknight
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 9:57am

      @ JRook

      Where you are going wrong is that these roads are for EVERYONE’S use. The are not solely for the purpose of businesses. Nor was their creation solely for business purposes. Nor is the Internet.

      The original creation of the Internet was the flow of information should a nuclear blast take out normal means of communication. It was a defense network for the DOD and many universities so they can plan a course of action should an attack happen.

      The birth of the internet led to many creations, the birth of roads. However, it didn’t MAKE the business owner use them or even led to their success. If businesses succeed, they also fail based on your claim because of the same issue – government involvement. When the government doesn’t staff a port correctly, does it hurt business? When the Government hires poor administrative overseers, does the business pay?

      The roads you claim before the invention of the car, were trails made by heavy usage of wagons, not by the DOT. You are a fool to think that these DIRT roads were created by the government. The Government nor created these as it created the Oregon Trail… People found paths and created them in their expanse to the west. The government did purchase the land, so you could say that they created the trails through pushing a market.

      By your logic, Glenn Beck has part ownership of your remarks. This is his website, so your words only exist because he paved the way for you.

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    • JohnnyMidknight
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:11am

      @ JRook

      Now, in honesty. All should pay for the roads. All benefit from infrastructure. However, these systems are not responsible for the success of an individual or an individual’s actions. These merits can only be weighed based on the individual. Business know that their employees helped them, their customers. However, unless your GM, GE or any Government backed business (Ahem GM’s sales were up 16% last month due to a 72% increase from government purchases – fitting for a government partially owned business), you can not force people to buy your goods. Only through sales can you be successful. A road does not sell the MP3 player. The road only helps it reach a broader market. However, without a good model and smart business sense a business will fail or succeed based on innovation of the business owners and management.

      Businesses owe more of their success to their employees and customers than they do the government. The roads are there regardless of a business’ existence. Trails and dirt roads are made by constant travel of farmers to markets and migration. The roads were initial built over these areas due to the easy of prepping the land.

      However, how the moneys acquired for the roads are need before the government can build them. So, without an friendly economy to create successful businesses, the government has no means to build a road or an internet. Sure, they could print money, but that does nothing but makes the population poor.

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    • johnjamison
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 10:16am

      We are have a government FOUNDED of the people,by the people for the people.
      But Obama in a largers sense just said WE ARE A PEOPLE OF THE GOVERNMENT,BY THE GOVERNMENT AND FOR THE GOVERNMENT.He’s the ANTI-AMERICAN PRESIDENT
      It’s time for the Son of the Founders to rise.

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    • Taquoshi
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 11:36am

      Okay, let’s talk about how the roads were built and maintained by others. I’ve got some great examples of that for you.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mianus_River_Bridge

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Bridge

      Kindly note that the collapse of both these “bridges” was due to poor maintenance. Your government dollars at work.

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    • landman1
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 11:39am

      wolfgang…The best way to illustrate your point is to recall what the city of Berlin, Germany looked like. With a wall down the middle and democracy on one side and socialism on the other. When the wall came down the inhabitants were able to witness the stark contrasts. The western people viewed the still burned out buildings left from ww2 and the eastern citizens were able to stroll through the reconstructed portion of west Berlin. Anyone see the difference between the two? We here are at the crossroads with this election. We can become east Berlin with socialism or get back on the path of democracy. Less Gov’t and more entrepreneurial successes. The choice is as dramatic as that!

      Romney12

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    • its_time_to_arrest_our_government
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 11:43am

      if it looks like a penis dont listen to it sorry lady’s but i call em as i see em

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    • johnjamison
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 12:41pm

      Successful people
      A. Are more likely to send their kids to private schools-less use of government
      B. Don’t use foodstamps less use of government
      C. Don’t get section 8 housing less use of government
      D. Hire private security less use of government
      E. Have fire prevention devices installed less use of government
      F. Have their own health insurance less use of government
      G. 99.9% Have children that don’t rob,steal,and deal heaping cost on the law enforcement,Justice,and prison systems less use of government
      H. They employ people thus those people aren’t in the welfare systems…less use of government
      I give healthcare to their employers….less use of government

      AT THE SAME TIME
      A. They pay rights rates on their income…giving to the government
      B.They pay taxes on their homes…giving to the government
      C. Pay business taxes…giving to the government
      D. they pay equipment taxes….giving to the government
      E. pay road taxes on all their equipment that uses the highway….giving to the government
      F.pay taxes on the capital gains on the money they’ve aready been taxed on…giving to the government
      G. Pay unemployment insurances on all their workers…giving to the government
      H. Pay special licensing fee for everything you could possibly imagine…giving to the government
      I. Pay luxury taxes on anything the government see fit to call a luxury…giving to the government
      J. Pay match all thier employss SS payments…giving to the government
      THIS LIST COULD

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    • markThatcher
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 12:57pm

      Was hoping we would find an ASS to air his views nationally that could successfully replace the previous ASS Kieth Olberman. Perhaps there is some form of {G}overnment help for Mr. Hahn to help him become a successful non-moronic idiot.

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    • Randbo
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 1:04pm

      “Run for your life from any man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper’s bell of an approaching looter.” Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged.

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    • MittensKittens
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 1:38pm

      What a moron, there weren’t asphalt or roads when Henry Ford “invented” the horseless carriage…dumba$$

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    • mtcountrygrl
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 2:32pm

      I liked the comment about it being the “everybody gets a trophy” argument projected as government policy. But you need to take that further. In college I did a paper on poverty in America and found out something VERY interesting! A two parent household with both parents working full time (making only minimum wage) can have up to two children and still be above the poverty line. Now lets put aside the fact that if you are a grown up and still working a minimum wage job there are other issues at play. But think about that, what causes poverty in America…CHOICES. If you have children without an intact family. If you do not work full time. If you have more than two children. These are all choices. And as we all know the recent Forbes list of BILLIONAIRES found that most of them (I want to say 85% or higher) are self-made (Did not inherit wealth). If you make it or don’t in America is almost 100% your choice. We need to stop shielding people from their bad choices, while punishing others for their good ones. Now I know there are some in poverty, not due to bad choices (those who have lost everyting due to a death or illness). But that is a SMALL percent and surely our society will be glad to help them out. But for most of them; stop making babies without two parents, get a job, get sober, and get off the government dole.

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    • HKS
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 3:29pm

      This guy ranks right up there with the most disgusting liberal crap buckets around. “And just who paid for those roads idiot. Government makes nothing. Business paid all the bills, period.”

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    • YOUR NOT GETTING MY GUNS
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 4:24pm

      I know this may have been said, but when Henry started building cars there were nothing but horse and buggy trails to follow or they made there own trail. Maybe that whole alien thing in New Mexico is true, these nut jobs had to come from somewhere.

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    • Cemoto78
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 4:38pm

      Typical liberal/ progressive stupidity. How much longer do we have to listen to the “well, I know what Obama said, but this is really what he means”, crap. Obama can NEVER own up to anything and can throw blame around like Al Sharpton can the race card.

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    • Pigpen
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 11:54pm

      Whoa, hey, whoa! When all of us “Redneck Republicans” were denouncing GATT and NAFTA, all of you “little-c conservatives“ were lecturing down your noses at us about the importance of international ”interdependence”. Why the change? Let me guess: You only enjoyed flirting with Harvard-style elitism when it was MY JOB that was up on the chopping block, right? Now that Harvard is taxing the cr@p out of your businesses and professional partnerships, now you are whistling, once again, for your trusty redneck cousins to get that n-word out of the White House, right?

      This reminds me of the time when my ancestor froze his @ss off at Valley Forge (And he got passed up for commission to officer by some French foreigner who was here in the US illegally but was a member of a “trendy minority”) only to have the land and pay promised him in the lean years of the new nation be given to the “proper and noble” elements of society. And his farm was then taxed out from under him and sold to the bankers! In the end, my “cabin trash” relative got zilcho’d when the war was all over and those lawyers all got their way and were able to drink tax-free tea! Oh yeah, but those blue bloods did deign to compromise with the more liberal elements among them by adding some “Bill of Rights” or some such nonsense for us hoi palloi to whine about ad nauseam.

      So back in GATT and NAFTA you cried about Longshoremen making “6 figures” and the need for interdependence, and now you want to boy

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 3:12am

      I bet it would be EASIER to set up a business in almost any semi-civilized place than it is in today’s USA. The permits, the requirements, the employment requirements, Heaven help you if you have to let someone go! The regulations that our GOV. has loaded us down with and then add the 1000 pages of tax (requiring Tax Preparer $$) …. I could open a business in any other tropical place on earth in a day…but not here. I won‘t leave the USA but it’s very sad to see what you faithless DEM/LIBS have done to this country. YOU have no faith so YOU want to make everything perfect now…impossible…and what you can’t make perfect you must control like a 4 year old. You have totally wrecked the AMERICAN DREAM and now we need to fix it. I’m determined that my kids and their kids will have at least as great a life as I have…not less because of you Atheists/Libs/PC nut jobs.
      IF you had any faith, you‘d know that things that happen to people are ’obstacles for them to overcome‘ and you’d stop creating a massive pile of marshmallows that you can control. HOW dare you do that to people??? WE (Conservatives) give more $, time and effort helping our fellow man than any of you do…all you want to do is talk about it. LOOK AT THE MESS YOU’VE MADE!!! I hope you grow up. I can’t wait until Nov and we have a MAN in the WH who loves AMERICA and has lived and believes in the AMERICAN DREAM for everyone…not making slaves of people!!!

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    • Dr Vel
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 3:21am

      Obama has not met with the jobs panel once because ‘He has a lot on His plate’. Record unemployment, 3.5 years of parties, trips, golf, campaigning, raising money for 4 more years, and absolutely nothing else.

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    • I support God's Israel!
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 1:01pm

      I stopped watching FOXNEWS altogether. WHY? Because if I wanted to look at and listen to a liberal wack-job, I’d turn to MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN.

      FoxNews has become more moderate in their presentations and that is why employees are leaving. That is why Glenn left. In fact, I am thinking about cancelling my Cable subscription altogether and just keeping the Internet. I can watch anything there.

      FoxNews HAS COMPROMISED ITS ORIGINAL PRINCIPLES. It is no longer FAIR AND BALANCED.
      It caters to the liberal left, just so they can keep their standing. When you compromise on the truth, then there is no truth and it becomes a lie.

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    • Goddoesnotmakejunk
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 1:28pm

      The Irony is is that the first concrete street was right here in Detroit at 6 Mile and Woodward, it cost a little over $13,000 for a one mile stretch and about 9 years later, the very first traffic light was installed… (of course, the joke is the first orange barrels showed soon after) oh by the way, both were privately paid because the business owners (Ford and auto part manufacturers) were tired of getting the horses stuck in the mud… that’s how innovation works, that’s where our ingenuity shines the brightest!

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    • rickc34
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 2:08pm

      Chris Hahn , this guy gives me the creeps like a child molester.

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    • johnsnare
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 6:15pm

      How the hell this idiot got on the program is a mystery. I am always amazed at the liberal mantra. Government is the engine. Give me a break. I had a very small successful Insurance Agency, that employed about five people. We all earned a very comfortable living, and the Feds,the State, and the local government, was never a factor,only in collecting my taxes.

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    • regeya
      Posted on July 21, 2012 at 6:00pm

      Oy vey, one certainly has to suspend disbelief when reading through this dreck.

      “The interstate highway system wasn‘t built until 9 years after Henry Ford’s death”

      but there were roads…and the interstate system was built partially for the military’s use.

      “and the model T was originally built and marketed before Woodrow Wilson was even President.”

      whiskey tango foxtrot.

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  • Psychosis
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:58pm

    come on trolls grow a spine ………………….defend this moron

    …………………….even the crickets wont chirp for you morons

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    • socialism.rocks
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 7:34pm

      all resources are publicly owned… thats right we the people own them
      capitalism is a tool of allocation of the peoples resources

      poor people have just as much right to the peoples resources as the capitalists….

      what comes first property rights or government
      what comes first rule of law or government
      what comes first asset protection or government
      get rid of government for six months and everyone will scream tax me tax me

      a republican form of government is we the people owning the means of production= government

      socialism.rocks  
    • MasterJoshua7
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 7:51pm

      @Socialism:

      Actually, property rights do in fact, preexist government because property rights come from God. But I don’t expect ou to believe that either, moron.

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    • DIR
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 8:09pm

      @SOCIALISMROCKS: all resources are publicly owned… thats right we the people own them
      capitalism is a tool of allocation of the peoples resources.

      Really? Where have you been living, Cuba, maybe Russia? If I own property and I find gold on it, I own it, not the ‘people’. It’s called property rights! There are all kinds of laws governing these rights. If you want the gold you’ll have to buy it from me, that is if I want to sell it. This is just one mickey mouse example of zillions. However, if you think me wrong, and you want to prove you are correct, then go onto someones property and tell them the rescources on their property are the people’s and try taking them. If you’re not shot, you’ll likely be arrested for trespassing, stealing and probably a host of other infractions of the law.

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    • Too_Far_Gone
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 8:19pm

      @socialism.rocks

      Hey no wit , do you believe half the crap that spews out of that empty head of yours (aside from the few nuts and bolts clanging around ?)

      Aside from a little negative responses that give you the attention you so desperately need, why the heII do you even have a name here or come here ? Do you think you can change the mind of decent good people with your BS ?

      You really are a pathetic piece of work ..

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    • booger71
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 8:47pm

      a republican form of government is we the people owning the means of production= government
      ===================
      Hey moroon, when the government owns the means of production=socialism. You might want to read a little Bastiat.

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    • Psychosis
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 9:19pm

      well , at least one of em tried lol

      im going to have to introduce you to madison

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpmIBJ_MKas

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    • Too_Far_Gone
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 9:43pm

      They’ve got nothin at this point, except hate ..

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    • kapnkd
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 9:48pm

      To “socialismrocks”:

      It is the other way around!! …Without successful taxpaying citizens/entrepreneurs government falls flat on it’s face. In OUR American way of life, WE THE PEOPLE are in charge and control – NOT government. THIS is what our founding fathers fought, died for and gave us a Constitution that guarantees us these rights to freedom, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

      Take your socialistic (COMMUNISM) and shove it where the sun will NEVER shine! Move to a country that already subscribes to the ideologies you prefer to embrace. I’m sure most of us who still love our country the way it was will be more than happy to buy you a ticket (one way) to Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, China, North Korea or even Iran or Egypt whichever you prefer more???

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    • RebelPatriot
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 11:02pm

      Then why do the socialist continue to say it would not be possible without government. Government doesn’t produce revenue. They tax the people, so the money comes from us and we should decide where it goes.
      The wealthier are in their own right paying more taxes. They pay employees who in turn pay taxes. So the wealthy and corporations not only contribute with their own tax dollars they generate a way and means for others to have income to produce tax dollars for government programs.

      The problem with socialist they have the same argument as the Chicken or the Egg, which came first.

      The socialist believe we exist to support the government, we believe the government exist to provide those things outlined in the Constitution.

      So how about securing our borders.

      Better yet, since you like for us to do with less, this is what we are going to do for government. We will cut government by 50% 20% reduction in pay across the board? Why? Because not only do we pay your salaries we pay your pensions. That cost us 50 years of wages. For that you get 80% of your present salaries. Don’t like it, to bad get a private job.
      The other 30% reduction will be in headcount and operations budget. Why? Because when a corporation needs to cut back these are the measures they take to right their ship or adjust to the economy. Much of the headcount reduction will come in the dissolving of the Postal Service and the IRS.
      Flat tax rate paid when you make purchases. No payroll t

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    • Puddle Duck
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 11:09pm

      Another Epic Fail by one of the resident trolls……..SR your argument is so full of BS it’s difficult to take seriously.

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    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 11:01am

      Why doesn’t this guy ever reply? If his idea were concrete, I.e. worth a hoot, they’d be both easy to defend and POSSIBLE to defend. But His silence says it all

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    • its_time_to_arrest_our_government
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 11:47am

      @ the socialist clown we the people own it not our government we also own the government we pick and this batch all belong in jail.

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    • mtcountrygrl
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 2:36pm

      @ Socialism
      Mr. Chavez is that you?

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    • Al J Zira
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 7:27pm

      @socialismsucks: a republican form of government is we the people owning the means of production= government

      I don‘t know where you’re learning your theories, but the little socialist school you attend should return your money. They have no clue what they’re talking about hence, neither do you.

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  • bdandsl
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:56pm

    And there are those that don‘t pay into gov’t, yet use more than their ‘fair share.’

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    • countryfirst
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 9:53am

      There are two ways to look at this , The ever growing government owes its complete existence to the tax payer, the tax payer would be fine with the decrease of government.

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  • shagstar
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:55pm

    no reason to comment,,,,,socialism just sucks! DARN,,,i commented!

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  • Bulletpoints
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:55pm

    …so cutting govt. programs will hurt rich people!

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    • RANGER1965
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 7:05pm

      Oh…I’m sorry was that logic and reason you were using? That’s not allowed in the Obama Kingdom. It’s considered a racist act.

      You didn’t get the memo?

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    • Dougral Supports Israel
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 7:08pm

      You’re on to something. Now we just need to convince the OWS people that cutting government spending is the best way to make the 1% suffer.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 7:12pm

      Yeah, that is what the libs are trying to convince us. I would think that the successful business people are saddled with more and more regulations, local, state, and federal taxes. More than likely the only government services they use is to renew their license every four years. Good thing all that tax money pays for police and fire protection too.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 7:14pm

      No….cutting govt programs hurt the poor,,,,,,but rich people used more programs to get rich…..but poor people need govt programs……but successful people……..zzzzt…..zzzzt……zzzzzzt……..does not compute, does not compute……..pooooof…….

      I seem to remember an episode of this on Star Trek, they made the androids short out by using illogic reasoning. Oh that Rodenberry, what a visionist he was.

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    • MasterJoshua7
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 7:52pm

      Hey, that is a really good point you made. I’ll have to remember that, thanks. ;)

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    • Zipit
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 8:39am

      DAMOK! If you are a liberal, it is logic as well as common sense that do not compute. This guy, Hahn Behaves like a rabid hyena when confronted with anything that requires basic intelligent thought. Beedie eyes, frothing mouth, and incessant rambling. Maddening yes! But keep the the guy on. Just as the president without a Teleprompter, he is the gift that just keeps giving!!!

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    • Zipit
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 9:47am

      Shaka! Forgot the “r” sorry!

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  • Dougral Supports Israel
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:54pm

    With America’s overly progressive tax structure the successful already contribute a huge share to the total collected taxes. In addition successful businesses hire employees who pay tax on their own. Its stupid to attack the engine of our prosperity and try to make the unsuccessful, non-producers believe they deserve equal credit for the success of our best and brightest.

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    • matamoros
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 7:26pm

      Yet the rich keep giving to the obama campaign – two of the richest men on earth, Bill Gates and the “my secretary pays more taxes than I do” dude, are squarely in this fool’s camp. Superstars like Will Smith, George Clooney, Sara Jessica Parker, just to name a few, are also squarely in this fool’s camp. What gives??? I just don’t get it???

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    • DesdemonasCrew
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 7:57pm

      Let me help you. They care not what happens to this country. They have a sick image of themselves as superior to the rest of us, and they know they will reside with the hierarchy as long as they support them.

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    • RebelPatriot
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 11:08pm

      They aren’t paying more yet???????

      When they get hit with the 50% tax rate it will be too late and the fix will be completed.

      What will kill all the superstars is when we stop going to their movies and buying their CD’s.

      Instead of walking away with 3.5 million from a 5 million dollar paycheck and film they will only receive 2.5 million. Hell they will have to sell some of those Mansion and cut back. Of course no one will be there to buy those mansions cause we will all be broke also.

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    • Puddle Duck
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 11:16pm

      I think these folks are simply pandering to whoever is in control of things at present. Some of these folks are true believers but most are just pragmatic self serving types (in the rarified air of the super rich better to make friends with the Feds than make enemies of them).

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  • sndrman
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:54pm

    when you suspend disbelief we are entertained………….when facts and truth doesn’t matter and you can bend the curve,well welcome to liberalism…………so the people running the chief talking bull in massachusetts campaign must now be in cahoots…………LOL it would be funny if not so stupid…….

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  • RANGER1965
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:52pm

    For those who are consumed with petty envy, a successful person is anathema to them. His or her very existence is an insult to their lives, dreams and ambitions. They see a successful person as a spotlight continually illuminating their own fears of being judged.

    Do you remember when you were a kid and thought that the world revolved around you? That you were on a vast stage, and the whole world was watching? Then later on you grew up and realized this was just a childish illusion? Well these envious little weasels never grew up, and their numbers are increasing.

    These people say to themselves, “I’m a good person. I deserve to be successful just as much as anyone. Why am I a failure and that guy over there a success?”

    And they answer their own question as all cowards do, by not examining the condition of their own lives, and their own choices. They instead become convinced that the successful person is a scoundrel who cheated, and using their clever wiles prospered on the backs of innocent and hard working people.

    BECAUSE…

    If that’s not true, then these little narcistic weasels must blame themselves and find their dreams, their work lacking.

    And that folks…just aint gonna happen.

    It’s gonna be a long summer.

    RANGER

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  • AtlasStones
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:51pm

    Hahn failed to reach any plausible or logical conclusion during his nonsensical incoherent ramblings. We are all dumber for having heard him speak. I award him no points and may God have mercy on his soul.

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  • MartinPenwalt
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:50pm

    I think Hahn needs a lobotomy to remove the 8 lbs. of excrement from his head. Either that, or I need to inject an equivalent amount into mine so I can relate to his position.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 7:02pm

      Listening to Hahn, it’s got to be a lot more than eight pounds. Just think of his head as a blivet.

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  • christos
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:50pm

    Government is a lying piece of filthy crap & Thieves,,,,I Pray against them Daily FILTH.

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  • bdandsl
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:49pm

    This guy makes my ears bleed. Liberals are like cult members. They are brainwashed through the education system (which id the main reason they will never allow competetion) and you can show the facts, graphs, videos, audio that PROVES they are wrong and they will still argue the point. We need deprogramming camps. Their reasoning is absolutly mind-numbingly stupid!

    If they would stand up and say what they really believe and want, be it socalist, marxism, communist, etc. I could at least respect them. I would never agree, but I can respect a honest person. It’s when they perversely twist the reasoning to their agenda makes me sick that they have no allegance to the greatest nation ever – the first nation designed to NOT be controled by a central gov’t and these asse$ are doing their best to destroy it. That’s treason!!!

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    • BloodSweatandTears
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 7:11pm

      My newest question to these malcontents, is to ask them which country would they prefer to live in, granting that the don’t have my permission to change the land and the free and the home of the brave,
      country that I love?

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  • vtxphantom
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:48pm

    I know what president choom meant. I am not stupid, nor are the majority of us. We do not need a translation. If for some reason our first gay president was off message then he is an ineffective communicator and should get back to school, which by the way, is where he belongs.

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    • Hoax And Chains
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:51pm

      No thanks!!! We have enough liberal morons teaching in schools as it is!!!!!

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    • justangry
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 7:03pm

      @Hoax, Ain’t that the truth. Law schools are where they’re really doing a number on us.

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    • vtxphantom
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 7:21pm

      I never meant he should go back to school teach. He should go back to school to learn!

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  • marcus_arealius
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:47pm

    Fine. Start confiscating the enormous wealth of Hollywood and the entertainment industry. Then go after the billionaires of Google, Yahoo, Facebook, and others. Then start taxing the unions, the churches, the mosques, charities, soup kitchens and rape shelters. Why not simply tax the crap out of everyone who puts up no resistance? Do it, go ahead. wreck one of the most productive innovative countries on the planet. When the money spigot runs dry the government will shrivel up and blow away. I can’t wait.

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    • drbage
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:54pm

      As former PM Margaret Thatcher once said, “The only problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.”

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  • lstoddard004
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:45pm

    Chris Hahn started giving me a headache….ugh….did you see how he kept raising his voice because no one believe his crap, when that failed, he started dodging the question or shifting to another topic. He’s a joke.

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  • RebelPatriot
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:45pm

    What these politicians are forgetting, is they don‘t exist without our tax dollars and it’s time we put our foot down and stop this craziness called big government.

    We need to elect the Congress person to ensure they are working to lower federal government wages and also to reduce departmental spending and headcount.

    They keep telling the American people to do with less while they continue to give themselves raises and creating new departments to suck us dry. BS! BS! BS! BS!

    I’m tired of their constant BS! Every word out of their mouths is BS!

    Every single politician in DC better find a hole to crawl into becauuse when this country goes belly up broke, I will be looking for all those so called intelligent AS#%9les who kept running the tab up and growing government faster than the economy.

    Harvard and Yale presidents for 24 years and we are 16 trillion in debt. I without a Master’s degree can live within my means and balance my check book. They are doing what they are doing intentially in order to destroy the Republic and they all need to be tried in a Military court martial and sentenced accordingly. Every guilty party should have their execution broadcasted on public television for all of us to justice finally being served to the people.

    They are war criminals because they are attempting to destroy this nation and should be held accountable as such. It’s time to fill up Levinworth with tyrants before the streets are covered with the blood of pa

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  • oneillptgd
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:41pm

    What about home schoolers????? What a fool to think that government would exist without the tax from the governed. Dictators always want to control everything. Getting a cut of the increase. I watched enough of “robin hood” movies to know that the strong arm of government to crush you unless you pay up. America became great because of freedom from God. Government got out of the way with free enterprise. “American Dream” is still alive not the socialist /marxist “utopia.

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  • cassandra
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:39pm

    the president was a little off message ???? give me a break , obama wouldn’t have a CLUE on how to start a business, this is obamas class warfare spin, how very socialist of him

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  • fande3rls
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:39pm

    Hahn has shown himself to be nuts every time he is on tv, the man is out of his mind .

    Any man can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error.
    Marcus Tullius Cicero
    I prefer tongue-tied knowledge to ignorant loquacity.
    Marcus Tullius Cicero

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  • Fear The Voices
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:38pm

    If we go back to the beginning, nobody helped get a business started, except a person, or people who ventured to do so. Government was not a single part of it!
    Likewise, nothing government can do or create is down without a business having made it possible! Government does not make the computers they use, nor the paper, the uniforms for the military, fighter planes……. Nothing! They only make red tape to hold everything back. Without businesses government would not have been able contract the roads, schools, and administrative offices…. They’d have nothing! Government does NOTHING without businesses and the wealth they create through employing workers or selling products.

    The one thing government does do well is exploit(tax) all that business has created for their own agenda of vote buying and remaining in power.

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  • hamptonsurfer
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:37pm

    the government has been a hurdle to my success.

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    • drbage
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:50pm

      And with the administration in power now, I am sure that they are very HIGH hurdles that often change height in the middle of your jump.

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  • jopmur
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:36pm

    Chris just gave me my daily dose of idiocy. I’m good till tomorrow and the next liberal drools all over himself.

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  • armymp
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:36pm

    If Bobo wins in November, I believe I will lose my will to live.

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    • Benjack
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:48pm

      Army,
      Take up arms instead, start with the dems in your state and work to the WH.

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    • TheEDGE
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:53pm

      My son of 21 months repeats “Bobo, bobo” whenever O’blah blah appears on TV. ****** my mother in law right off.

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    • BloodSweatandTears
      Posted on July 19, 2012 at 7:02pm

      Don’t. My mother says the pendulum always swings back…Let this be the biggest united wake up call for the entire conservative movement. There’s work to be done on all levels, starting with your local school board. This too has depressed me for four complete years. My country is being turned inside out- but more people are awake and see the epic proportions of this. Stay strong.

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  • CatB
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:34pm

    LOL .. KEEP DIGGING! I am loving this .. ;-)

    OMG 2012 LIBERTY!

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  • TSUNAMI-22
    Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:33pm

    Here’s another example of a person who gets me to change the channel as fast as when I see Alan Colmes, Obama, Harpootlian, Tamara Holder…etc.

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    • CatB
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:43pm

      Yes .. never watch even FNC without the remote in your hand .. and try NOT to throw it at the TV ;-)

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    • Juniemoon
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:50pm

      Same here, but when I heard he worked with Schumer…………….I knew what an idiot he was.

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    • Conservative New Yorker
      Posted on July 18, 2012 at 6:55pm

      Funny- I have the same list!

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    • JBT48
      Posted on July 20, 2012 at 12:35am

      Exactly, I can listen to some opposing points of view. Chris Hahn has admitted to lying for his team before & that bald headed grin he has after saying something ridiculously stupid boils my blood. Automatic channel change when they say he is going to be on a show & did not watch the example above.

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