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Ill-Advised: GOP Sen Responds to Tax Question With ‘Blow Up the Place’

War-like and battlefield language seems to be making its way around Washington. Just yesterday, President Obama compared the American people to “hostages,“ the GOP to ”hostage takers,” and then called John Boehner (R-OH) a “bomb thrower.” Now, come to find out, a day earlier a GOP senator responded to a question on taxes by using the ill-advised analogy “I think we have to blow up the place.”

CNS News reports on the exchange between a questioner and retiring Sen. George Voinovich (R-OH):

“I know you came out in favor of what the debt commission [the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform] did but how do we get from here to there?” Voinovich was asked during a roundtable discussion at the Aspen Institute on Monday.

“Well, I think we have to blow up the place. There’s a big debate going on right now and most people want to work an agreement, they’re going to extend it [the Bush tax cuts], some deal will be made,” said Voinovich.

When later asked if he would vote against “tax extensions” he vowed, “I’m voting against everything. I am”:

Comments (102)

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  • kathleenhenthorn
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 5:01pm

    How utterly stupid & out touch our representatives are! Passing this ignorant extension of Unemployment benefits again, while the elderly are cut again! Honestly I cannot believe that they do not know that half if not more than half the people on Unemployment are working under the table. They are collecting unemployment checks while getting paid cash from employers.. It’s heaven for them, and those not working under the table are laying on their asses not excepting any job that pays them less than they were earning before. I just found out that the Republicans, my representatives blocked a $250. stimulus for those receiving social security. Rents have inceased, heating & cooling cost have increased, groceries have increased gas for autos, increased (none of these are counted in the inflation ratio) but give the lazy asses more free money, and starve the elderly! I’m so done, is everyone ass backwards? Those that cant earn a living, because of health or age, get screwed Those who can, get off your asses, work 2 low paying jobs if you have too. I’ve done it many times. I have 3 neighbors, they worked hard all their life, 2 are elderly 70′s with no help of a COLA this year they might have to give up what independence they have and go to a care home, so they can have heating & food. Shame Shame Shame…I just called my church to see what we can do to keep them in their homes, we are all up against it, but we will try to help them. For my lazy, cheating neighbor that is working under the table and on the 3rd extension of unemployment, I’m turning your ass in!

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  • egosumverum
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 5:00pm

    Voinovich is a turd AND has always been a turd. We have put up with this disgusting fool for way too long. Glad to see him getting “flushed”. He should receive NO pension or benefits for his time as a public “servant”.

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  • JohnnyJT
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:58pm

    No we need to get rid of all Liberal Communist Politians.

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  • servantshart
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:46pm

    Although I don’t not advocate this… I often wonder if the American people would be well served by a well placed low yield device.

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  • oldfart
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:37pm

    May I remind you of the words of a great American Founding Father???

    The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
    ~Thomas Jefferson

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  • mtnclimberjim
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:36pm

    Him and Howard dean need to consummate their marriage

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  • travelerjerry
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:29pm

    The Mad Bomber likes phrases as “Blow up the Place”. Does Bill Ayers know about this?

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    • commonsenseguy
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:34pm

      o yea!!!! you know he does . he is the expert!!!!!

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    • psst
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:39pm

      Funny!!
      Yes he does. Bernadine has already gone to to the bom-boom store for supplies.

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    • wbalzley
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:39pm

      Yeah, BOOM BABY BOOM! I’m the mad bomber wot bombs at midnight!
      –from The Tick

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  • rbagala
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:27pm

    The article is correct that warring words are now the norm in our congress. But it did not start with the Republicans. One must remember Nancy Pelosi calling the Tea party members as “Nazis” “thugs” and other unflattering terms. She even went as far as insinuating her life is threatened by these Tea party members. Democratic congressmen followed her example in calling the American voter and the tea party members in the most ugliest terms, this without any reaction from Obama.

    President Obama alone has claimed racism on issues that had nothing to do with racism, and as reported in this article Obama took the words reaction to the GOP senator of his metaphoric statement of “blowing up this place” out of context and was quick in using it to his advantage.

    Any sane person would realize that the words “ blowing up this place” was not to be taken literally but in the context of a stubborn and uncorporative President still stuck on dead issues.
    Yes I too agree with that GOP Senator that the congress and the Senate need to be metaphorically spoken “blown up” or in its translation stand up with stern and vigor against the vicious acts that the Obama government has willfully pushed at the cost of this nation.

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  • mcFirst
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:24pm

    The gop had the upper hand all along. Obama was going for the hail mary with the class warfare.

    Once again americans are screwed, we ended up, spending money to keep the status quo.

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    • Sgt.Crust
      Posted on December 9, 2010 at 10:41am

      Bingo! May I repeat we are NOT going to pay off the $54 Trillion in debt, and going $5 Billion in debt every day won’t solve this crisis! We are headed to default, and a world of hurt and there is absolutly nothing we can do about that part.

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    • jakartaman
      Posted on December 9, 2010 at 11:17am

      Sarge you are correct. The world economy is going to implode – soon 1-3 years?
      Riots will begin in the larger cities – thats where most of the government freeloaders live and they will be impacted first. The gangs/hoards will move out into the suburbs to kill and loot food etc. the eventually to the rural areas. – the military and police will stand down – they will have to take care of their own.
      Invest in precious metals including brass and lead. stock up on long tern food supplies and all that goes with that – get some organic seeds, sore water etc etc. If possible get like minded people together and form an alliance – Numbers will help share the load and protection. It’s a foregone reality – be prepared

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  • Mitchtango
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:20pm

    While I don‘t think it’s yet time to “run to the sound of the guns,” perhaps, just as a reminder, we should erect papier-mâché guillotines on the steps of the Capitol building. Just a thought. ;)

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  • burnteye86
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:19pm

    True, there was only one George Washington, but there were also Americans who were willing to follow that man to fight tyranny while bare foot, and starving in the middle of winter.

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  • commonsenseguy
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:18pm

    hea, alvin691, i have several pitchforks, and guns take you pick. you almost want to agree with him, but we all know that this just his 30 seconds of fame.

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  • annieoakley
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:18pm

    Checks and Balances are needed at all levels.

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  • spirited
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:17pm

    What should Americans do???

    Mrs. Obama, “America is downright mean”
    Voinovich, “blow up the place”
    Olbermann, “rally in the streets of Washington”
    Obama, “punish your enemies” & “hostage take-overs”

    >Lipstick on a pig is still a pig

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  • spendthrift
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:15pm

    Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a loud voice at one end and no responsibility at the other.
    Ronald Reagan

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    • bbquizzle
      Posted on December 9, 2010 at 12:24am

      Reagan has the best quotes ever. Period.

      Well, at least the best ones since Calvin Coolidge.

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  • betsp
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:13pm

    It seems he is saying the extension won’t be enough, and huge cuts need to be made in order to save this country’s finances. Somebody needs to pull the pen from Obama so he can’t sign any more give aways. Business needs to be encouraged and the entitlements need to be shrunk. Sounds like blowing the place up to me, but in a good way.

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  • @leftfighter
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:13pm

    Look, bottom line is simple.

    Obama & Dems have been calling the Republicans hostage takers. Well, they’re the ones threatening to kill the deal right now, despite Obama‘s own economic advisor Larry Summers saying a double dip recession is a vertual certainty if this doesn’t pass.

    It’s perfectly clear to me who the hostage takers are.

    Interesting thing here? Finally an Obama Administration Dem has cited the correlation between high taxes and low economic growth.

    Now all we have to do is to get them to understand that if it’s bad for the economy if the group that only pays 25% of the taxes gets their taxes raised, it’s worse for the economy if the group that pays 70% gets its taxes raised.

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    • commonsenseguy
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:22pm

      how do you get a bunch of idiots to understand? they only know how to destroy every thing they touch now they are destroying this great country.

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  • mossbrain
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:08pm

    I think language influences behavior and am not in favor of this violent language. We should stick to insulting each others intelligence and penis size.

    This where I disagree the most with conservatives. Local government is even worse than federal government. Look at how the Mormons were treated by local governments in their early days. I have no doubt that if it were up to local governments, Mormons would still be kicked out of town in many places. You’ll have local tyrants that are much worse than big government.

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    • Sgt.Crust
      Posted on December 9, 2010 at 10:32am

      The liberal/progressives are ALL tyrants, at every level, and they need to be kicked out of office! I don’t condone any violence whatsoever, and do not promote it. But if they bring a fight to me, I will finish it.

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    • Brad Wesselmann
      Posted on December 9, 2010 at 12:57pm

      Honor and Faith defends; Fear and entitlement uses aggression…watch what they are doing and determine their motivation, are they taking to the fight or waiting for it?

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  • SND97
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:08pm

    Toby, Toby, Toby, we have a rebellion every year and every 4 years, it’s called PULL the LEVER and Vote the BUMS OUT!

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 7:06pm

      It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.
      Joseph Stalin

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  • liedetector
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:58pm

    He sounds as confused as he makes me.

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  • dms2262
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:55pm

    Goodbye George, we will not miss you. You were a democrat in a republican suit of clothes… we will not miss you.

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    • teahugger
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:04pm

      Isn’t THAT the truth!!! Hope he doesn’t do too much more damage to our country before he goes out to pasture.

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    • republitarian
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:45pm

      He voted for S510. He needs to go. But seriously, this is just rhetoric.

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    • bbquizzle
      Posted on December 9, 2010 at 12:21am

      As an Ohioan, I am not disappointed to see Voinovitch retire from the Senate. He was a pretty good governor of the state back in the day, but has been a progressive from day one at the federal level. Ohio elected Rob Portman to replace him. Time will tell if he is a RINO or a conservative, but I have high hopes for him personally. Now, we just need to kick Sherrod Brown out on his ass in 2012…

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  • GeauxAlready
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:54pm

    “Well, I think we have to blow up the place”, thats a good start. What else you got.

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  • snowleopard3200 {mix art}
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:52pm

    At least we can almost guarantee the Senator will not be on a terrorist no fly list. Or even a terrorist list of fellow Americans. Napoletano most likely though will have them ‘watched’ as ‘domestic threats’ as they ‘oppose the current administration.’

    Hm, sounds just like she is doing to the American citizens who dare to disagree with her.

    http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm

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    • Sgt.Crust
      Posted on December 9, 2010 at 10:28am

      Here, here Snow, keep up the good work you are doing! God bless you!

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  • john seven eighteen
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:52pm

    So, what’s the problem? Oh, that’s right – we should only think such a thing and not actually verbalize it. Oh, to dream……

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    • wend1
      Posted on December 9, 2010 at 11:05pm

      there is on need to feer the military in a revolt thay will have roi

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  • tobywil2
    Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:51pm

    ARMED REBELLION, CERTAINLY NOT:

    Recently, some of my Facebook friends have posted messages hinting that armed rebellion might be necessary to free us from the tyrants. Violent revolution might well free us from the current crop of tyrants but would almost certainly mean the end Of the American Revolution. The result would most likely be a new dictator who promised free elections as soon as order could be restored. Look at history. That was Castro’s promise and Cuba is still waiting for him to restore the Constitution and provide free elections.

    In all of history is only been one George Washington! There have been many revolutions and without an external intervention all had degenerated into a dictatorship. There has been only one “George Washington” ready, willing and able to create a constitutional republic. If violence erupts in our country, in an attempt to dispose of the tyrants, the result will almost surely be a dictatorship and the world will sink back into the Middle Ages. http://commonsense21c.com/

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    • Konservative PUNK
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:56pm

      Hey Toby, try writing a relevant comment for once.

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    • Andrew.TX.
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:56pm

      I get what your saying . . . But if pushed to far you got to save what you can before it is gone. Not saying grab the pitchfork and torches just some day you will have to choose a side and fight for it.

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    • Oil_Robb
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:58pm

      As long as the dictatorship is socialy and monatarily conservative I say…. LOCK and LOAD

       
    • Alvin691
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:59pm

      I don’t know what to do. I don’t have a pitchfork.

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    • wbalzley
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:04pm

      Armed REVOLUTION becomes necessary when the people are no longer able to influence the government through elections. We are not there yet, as was demonstrated in the last election. However, if this President makes any attempt to suspend or postpone elections for ANY reason the time to rise up against a tyrant is at hand…

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:08pm

      i get your sentiment, Toby, but try to calm down.

      Its fairly clear who the “revolutionaries” are. We need to be the “counter-revolutionaries.”

      Let the leftist radicals make the first move.

      ——————-
      in terms of Geo. Washington and the American Revolution, he was just a stoic bump on a log. He was not one of the “idea guys.” We need IDEAS!!

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    • VTSickFreak
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:19pm

      We obviously still have elections but we need to do something about all these non-elected bureaucrats, commissions and administrative bodies that are running rough shod over the U.S. Constitution and our freedoms/rights. I view them as the true enemy. Politicians come and go but people in the EPA, FCC, NEA, FDA, and on and on and on…. they stick around and they are dangerous. What do we need to do to get our new wave of political leaders to curtail their influence and power.

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    • VRW Conspirator
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:20pm

      The military will not stand for the President establishing martial law. There are enough men and women serving and retired that still hold to their oath of defending the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. Sure there might be ten’s of thousands in the military that think a coup would be good but there are hundreds of thousands that will side with the people of the USA and defend them to the death.

      i don’t think the senator meant “blow up the place” as a call to killing Congress or attacking the government with armed rebellion…I think from the rest of his comment he was talking about an explosion of political fighting among the parties and within the parties.

      the Tea Party 9/12 type movements have essentially “blown up” the business as usual attitude in Washington and they are running scared right now. We just need to keep on the pressure and blow up any further unconstitutional bill until the old guard is completely removed…that includes these deal making WEASEL RINOs like McCain, Graham, and apparently McConnell

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    • BQI
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:31pm

      @ WBALZLEY
      You are right, a course correction for the good of the country was just made in November. However, in the sight of those looking for more dramatic change, Obama’s far, far left folks who don‘t think he’s done enough, this past election and now O’s concession on tax cuts might be too much for them to bear.

      BQI, conservative blog, did a special edition last month on this very issue. I urge you to go to the site and review the info. on the link. Go to http://www.blackquillandink.com then to BQI-Opedia and the link November Special Edition. Good Luck

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    • pajamash
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:31pm

      Exactly Toby. Even Washington had multiple opportunities to become King or Dictator. He chose the higher path again and again and said (paraphrasing) ‘No, we did not fight only to be placed into a similar situation’. We must work from within the system and find the George Washington’s of our day to place into office. Those that will do the right thing by reducing the ever increasing stranglehold our own government has upon us!

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    • Brad Wesselmann
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:48pm

      If armed conflict occurs, everything changes…state borders, constitutions, everything! The platform has to be completely engulfed in fire before we jump into that unknown abyss, and it is only at that point when our new George Washington will appear…either that or Jesus. ;-)

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    • Buck_Ofama
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:59pm

      The Declaration of Independence says ,in part, “…But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government…”

      The define of evince is “ To show or demonstrate clearly”.

      Now, the ObamaCare individual mandate can be construed as failing to live up to his Constitutionally prescribed oath “…and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”. That is, he failed to preserve and protect the Constitution by signing ObamaCare into law using the Commerce Clause as a rationale and this is an attempt to usurp the peoples rights and to increase the power of Congress.

      However, Obama has not yet (IMHO) had a long train of abuses and usurpations. But, give the lose another 2 years.

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    • NapoHill15
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 5:14pm

      Consider Hillary Clinton’s “reset button” for a moment; the one she presented to the Russians. When you “reset” something, you wipe out all that came before it. Essentially then, what’s the difference between the button and the bomb?

      In that, the senator chose language to convey a sentiment that wiping the slate clean and starting over is desired; emphasis on the fact that it should be swift and thorough is synonymous with blowing it up . . . or pressing the reset button.

      Tell political correctness to go to hell . . . the censorship of ideas, an age old progressive tactic. The attack liberals invented to isolate their ideas as close to the political sunshine as possible and blow all others into the wind as if a bomb has gone off.

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    • timber wolf
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 6:54pm

      Where’s your faith Toby? You sound like your ready to forfeit your liberty to goons!

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    • OneFunR6
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 10:32pm

      Reply to:

      tobywil2 – Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:51pm
      “ARMED REBELLION, CERTAINLY NOT: ”

      VRW Conspirator – Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:20pm
      “The military will not stand for the President establishing martial law.”

      True, and THIS is why they MUST REPLACE the top brass with,……..

      NATIONAL SOCIALISTS.

      EITHER they [the brass] are FOR ending DADT, or not,……
      those who are not will soon be REPLACED.

      Then they will FORCE GAY MARRIAGE on the entire US,…. through the military,…

      AND ‘they’ WILL PASS the ‘DREAM’/nightmare ACT, and our ARMED forces will be….
      made up of ILLEAGLE IMMIGRAMTS, WILLING TO FIRE ON the ‘citizens’ of the US.

      SO, how much longer should ‘we’ wait?

      Until they have [mostly] taken away our ‘right’ to ‘free’ speech?
      [no more raciest hate speech issue]

      Until they have [mostly] taken away our ‘right’ to peaceable assembly?
      [public security issues]

      Until they have [mostly] taken away our ‘right’ to redress?
      [nudge, nudge,.... 'cause I'm the Czar, that's why...]

      Until they have [mostly] taken away our ‘right’ to keep and bear arms?
      [yes, but not the right to buy/sell/make/possess AMMO, environmental issues]

      Until WE have to DEPEND on the GOV to PROVIDE EVERYTHING WE NEED?
      OUR FOOD, OUR SHELTER, AND OUR WAGES?

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    • jordy 2010
      Posted on December 9, 2010 at 12:58am

      tobywill2 – You are repeating yourself…….. you posted those exact words a few days ago on another subject……. here’s a quarter……… go buy yourself a clue…..

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    • Sgt.Crust
      Posted on December 9, 2010 at 10:23am

      SO you would rather we rot under a current tyrant without putting up a fight, nice! We won;t be the ones going on the streets anyway, it will be the ********, unions and downtrodden, and there are LOTS of them out there! Go ahead, make my day! Jefferson once said, “From time to time, the tree of Liberty must be watered with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants.” I think that sums up what is going to happen here, no matter what we do now!

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    • peter469
      Posted on December 9, 2010 at 5:46pm

      Hey guys, there is no need for violence. We finally have a chance at real reforms since the November election. Let’s concentrate on keeping our newly elected and incumbent Republicans honest. Follow their votes, let everyone know if they vote the wrong way. Email and call your representatives in the Senate and the House and TELL them how you want them to vote on key issues. If they don’t we have elections in 2012 (remind them of that) and we can replace them. Guns and violence will only give the administration the motivation it needs to declare Martial Law and put troops in the street. NO ONE wants that. Work with your local Tea Party to keep pressure on Congress. Work with Freedomworks too. Stay non-violent and put the pressure on Washington in the only way they understand with your with phone calls, emails and most importantly your VOTE!

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