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‘Illinnoyed By High Taxes?’ Indiana Wants You!

The Hoosier State has declared a border war on their neighbor to the west, Illinois.Illinnoyed By High Taxes? Indiana Wants You!

The online slide show seen at SolutionIndiana.com makes some fantastic points for anyone considering opening a business there or moving one from Illinois or Indiana.

For example, there are some obvious differences in the costs of operating a business in either Indiana or Illinois:

Illinnoyed By High Taxes? Indiana Wants You!

The potential savings appear to be everywhere. Would you rather spend $18,900 on unemployment insurance or $41,820?

The site goes on to detail the advantages offered to businesses:

  • Indiana ranks first in the Midwest in the Tax Foundation’s 2011 Business Tax Climate Index (Oct. 2010).
  • Indiana has the lowest business costs in the Midwest and is one of the top 10 lowest cost locations in the U.S. according to Forbes (Oct. 2010).
  • Indiana ranks fourth in the nation for its business tax and regulatory climate according to the Enterprising States study by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and National Chamber Foundation (May 2010).
  • Indiana ranks best in the Midwest in Area Development magazine’s Top States for Doing Business study. (Oct. 2010).
  • Indiana is one of nine states that now have triple-A credit ratings from all three agencies (Standard & Poor’s, Fitch, and Moody’s) due to the state’s significant financial management and budgeting practices, stable economic base, property tax reform, and economic development efforts to attract job creation and create economic diversification.

The differences are not just favorable for businesses, but also for individuals.  Indiana ranks 19th on the local tax chart, while Illinois is at #8 and rising as their state government considers many options for dealing with the ticking fiscal time bomb. Just last summer it was reported that Illinois has a $15 billion dollar shortfall in the current year, and conservative estimates say their state pension fund is at least 50% underfunded.

It is no wonder that people have been leaving the state in droves.Between 1995 and 2007, Illinois lost over 85,000 taxpayers to border states.  One study estimates that from 1991 to 2009, Illinois lost an average of one citizen every ten minutes. That translates to over 1.25 million people leaving and taking a considerable amount of money with them.

The Illinnoyed have been voting with their feet for years, Indiana just got a little smarter and is reeling them in.

Comments (149)

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  • Nervous Investor
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 11:24pm

    Florida also has pretty much the right strategy too.

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  • Nervous Investor
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 11:23pm

    Indiana has got the right strategy ….. no doubt about it. Got to keep the red tape down as well however.

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  • ColdHeartedCapitalist
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 11:22pm

    I’ve lived in Illinois for almost 10 years… there hasn‘t been a single sane decision made to live on anything remotely resembling a budget even when there was someone claiming to be a republican in the governor’s mansion. They raised the yearly fees on trucking licenses a few years back and drove all of the logistics companies out of the state. Now they’re driving everyone else out. The Chicago machine never met a tax it didn’t like, a union it didn’t want to support, or a liberal cause that it didn’t want to throw a ridiculous amount of money at. If I thought I could get a job in some other state akin to what I’m doing here, I’d be gone too. Good, bad, or otherwise my employer invested billions in equipment and facilities in this state long ago so they’re pretty much screwed.

    Also, for any wondering, Rahm Emanuel shouldn’t have even been on the ballot for mayor of Chicago. The residency requirements are very black and white and he didn’t meet them. The liberal judges in the state supreme court overturned a correct lower court ruling that thew him off the ballot. There was a retention vote last November on a liberal judge that sealed that up.. they spent millions on that race. First judge retention vote I’ve ever seen ads for on TV or really anything beyond yard signs in my life.

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  • JBT48
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 11:15pm

    Illinois is controlled by Cook county voting, down state typically votes more conservatively. IL also gets the crime stat that is called East St. Louis. Double negative.

    Have always looked at southern IN/Louisville, KY area as the place to escape from IL mismanagement.

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  • matt708
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 11:13pm

    better not let the Unions see this or they will be over there looking for higher wages and beter benefits, Trunka$$ will be there with his hand out

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  • rock60
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 11:09pm

    I live in Indiana and a couple of years ago my proprty taxes went down by half.Very nice.

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  • angelcat
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 11:07pm

    Before all the union troubles, Wisconsin was trying to do the same thing – lure businesses in Illinois by lower taxes. It is interesting that the liberals in Illinois are so foolish as to think that Illinois is so wonderful that companies are willing to pay more and make lessof a profit for the privilege of staying there. Illinois may become the next Michigan rather quickly.

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  • commentkazi
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 11:00pm

    Peter Schiff made a similar (and effective) argument against CT last week: Peter Schiff on CT Taxes

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  • pakaeboiboi
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:54pm

    I heard that Janet Napolitano is FINALLY going to implement a very strict boarder security measure and build a fence ….. at the Illinois State boarder ….. to keep everyone from being able to leaved the State of Illinios …. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ….. YOU KNOW WAHTIMSAYIN !!!!!

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  • ThoreauHD
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:51pm

    Alot of nice folks live in Indiana. And also in the outskirts of Illinois, but Chicago has poisoned the state as a whole governmentally.

    The people in the small towns in Illinois are practically the same as Indiana, but they vote a mix of Republican and Democrat. Which essentially cancels out their weight against Chicago. There is still some nostalgia for the rum runners like Al Capone and it translates to modern politics as the socialist democrats.

    Indiana itself has a very high German population with the associated hot blondes, stout men, and kickin Octoberfests. Toyota built a multi-Billion dollar plant in Evansville, and other companies are also looking to set up shop there due to the huge tracks of open land and low taxes. The interstate system in Indiana is also superb. It‘s a trucker’s paradise.

    I think if Indiana focused their advertising exclusively in Chicago, it would do tremendous damage to Illinois. All that would be left would be unions and companies that like the name Chicago on their business cards after all is said and done.

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    • APatriotFirst
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 8:44am

      Have lived all over the USA but my heart is in Kokomo, Indiana. Good place to be born.

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  • kraphtsman
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:49pm

    High-tax, union-friendly, Democrat-controlled (due to their disproportionately high welfare-recipient populations and corrupt political machine) states like Illinois and California are literally going bankrupt. The overtaxed, over-regulated productive working class (non-union, non-welfare-recipient, non-criminal, legal citizen) is leaving in droves , as are many of the businesses that employ them.

    Just be prepared for these bankrupt, corrupt kleptocracies to pressure their socialist ilk in Washington to force the rest of the states (American Taxpayers who live elsewhere) to cover their worthless hides. This should force a true Taxpayer Revolt…. and these corrupt states should be allowed to collapse under the weight of their OWN corrupt making.

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  • NanaKate
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:43pm

    I know the LAST thing I want is more Illinois people coming to this state. There are too many now! Every where I look there are Illinois cars … they also take over our beaches all summer long. I for one (and I may be the only one) wish they would stay home or go somewhere else! That is just me!

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    • BornandBredintheUSA
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 11:38pm

      And Illinois drivers are about the worst in the nation. They take over the area every summer weekend and tend to be a bit unfriendly…to say the least. But I digress. This article is about business and as a lifetime Hoosier we will welcome all we can get.

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    • Cherynn
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 2:27pm

      When they move here they also need to leave thier democratic politics at the state line. Northwest Indiana looks just like Chicago anymore, democrat politicians and welfare, welfare, welfare every where and local taxing policies that have hurt the steel industry. If your going to move to Indiana, dont infect us with your old politics and turn our state into Illinois part 2.

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  • Fina Biscotti
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:39pm

    I wonder what were the taxes – for the hotel rooms in Illinois – for the 14 runaway Wisconsin Democrats?

    The entire tab – for their excursion – must have been HUGE.

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    • GeorgieJo
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:54pm

      Trumpkee money paid for those “vacate” rooms
      Those Democrats should be ashamed

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    • Charbet
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 7:44am

      No prob, they put it on your tab. :-D

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  • Browncoat359
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:38pm

    Dear former Illinoisans,we,the people of Indiana(Hoosiers!) welcome you and your businesses to our state. You can start over here in the souteastren portion of Indiana if you’d like,it’s about as far from Illinois as you can get and we would LOVE the jobs!

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  • Fina Biscotti
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:38pm

    The State of Illinois is $93 BILLION in debt – and was underwater – when Obozo was an elected State official.

    The States of California and Illinois are in the same position = bankruptcy.

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  • drbage
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:34pm

    Here in MO, we are just so glad to have Corruptinois as a neighbor since their tax, tax, tax policies are driving more and more business to our state. More and more people are crossing the river to buy anything from liquor to gas, because of the amount they save. Businesses especially love it since many of the people pay in cash so the IL govt cannot track via debit/credit card where they are spending their money.

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  • Tnredneck
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:31pm

    And the progressives still don’t get it.

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  • PlanetXenu
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:31pm

    … not sure what to say. I have no stake in the outcome of this one. is this Business Civil War?

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    • towerguy
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:47pm

      It’s not civil war, but exactly what the founders intended. You vote at the polls, and you vote with your feet. Implemented correctly, no state would fail indefinitely, because they would eventually have to change in order to rebuild their economy.

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  • Islesfordian
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:27pm

    That’s competition for you. I’m sure Obama will find it illegal or racist.

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  • d55may
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:24pm

    It also points out a lot more. It shows that those “rich businesses” pay a lot more than the progressives/democrats would lead us to believe. How dare those republican’s try to help small businesses by keeping taxes low, so that they have money to hire those 99 weeker’s. But then the union‘s will come in demanding all kinds of extra’s, again driving businesses away.
    I personally moved my business from northeast Ohio because I couldn’t afford to pay those high union wages. It was move the business to a more business friendly state or close the doors. Once I moved, I was able to hire three full time employee’s with wages between 12-16p/h with health insurance they paid 1/2 and I paid the other half. My workers comp covered them on the job. I miss them all, since I sold my business 10 years ago for a profit.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:33pm

      Nice to hear abouy your business experiences, stories such as that show what we face from the unions, and how we are better off without them.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 9:50am

      Profit,don‘t you know that’s a dirty word.They told me so in public schools.It’s too bad you had to move because of the greedy unions,we’ll be better off when unions are extinct.

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  • NickDeringer
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:22pm

    Federalism at work. Go Indiana. And watch out WI, Indiana may want your taxpayers as well.

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  • Mike Whittington
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:22pm

    Now that is funny. “States” competing in the FREE market for “customers”? This is getting better and better everyday.

    http://www.ISeeDanger.com

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  • Eblaze44
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:22pm

    Fiscal time bomb? how about a reality check – just take Chicago that has no rhyme or reason to elect Rahm Emanuel – other than his ties to the crime boss of the US.

    It is a problem for NY, IL, GA, states with notorious HUGE cities that effectively control the state over the people who do not dwell in the megalopolis. Somehow these entities need to be separated from the state and made “city states” and let the rest of the state rule themselves.

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    • iheartusa
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:49pm

      I agree! Here in Washington we have Seattle!

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    • tankerBigRed1
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:50pm

      Easier would be to go BACK to you get to vote if you own property -that you pay taxes on- whom so ever that pushed the 1 man 1 vote domed this country..

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    • CaptGregg
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 11:15pm

      @Eblaze44
      We have the same problem in Missouri. Kansas City and St. Louis pretty much control the state.

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    • chasbronson
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 8:23am

      We have the same thing in Pa. Rural Pa. is mostly conservative,except for the bug bitten union hacks.The liberals are millions deep in pittsburgh and philly and the cities.Their votes drown out the hard working productive people.

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    • avenger
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 8:27am

      now the black mafia will run the show for the next 50 years….what are the clueless lemmings doing there ….life is more than food stamps and walking around $$$……

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    • KickDemOut
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 12:45pm

      And in Colorado, it’s Sanctuary City, Denver where some of the looniest of the lefty loons reside. Imagine having a left-wing governor (former mayor) named Hickenlooper (also known as The Looper aka Hickenpooper).

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  • GeorgieJo
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:21pm

    Yeah GO Indiana
    It has better scenery than fricking Illinois!!!

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    • ManThong
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 11:00pm

      The scenery is indeed better in Indiana.

      You can go thongless in Roselawn.

      http://www.roadsideamerica.com/tip/3675

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    • LibertyOrDeath
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 11:57pm

      Nah, drove into IL this past weekend and Indiana had those ugly wind farms. However, IL had billboards advertising Farrakhan on the highway.

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    • Showtime
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 1:24am

      I noticed that when I drove a big truck. And, Wisconsin is pretty, but the rolling hills sorta tend to make one seasick! :-)

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  • vennoye
    Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:18pm

    Go Indiana!!!!

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:25pm

      Go illinois indeed, they have the right idea. Take the long range vision on taxes, let the businesses prosper and migrate into the area. They establish new jobs, and the supporting industries for the workers and their families will grow as well. It takes leadership of vision, discipline and courage to do what is right five and ten years into the future for the long term success of the state and those in the state as well.

      And indeed the Re-founding has begun, and will pick up in intensity as more climb on board with the desire and vision of what is right and true. So the foes of the administration will strike out harder and harder against us.

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    • joseph Fawcett
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:26pm

      I agree “Go Indiana!!” Illinois is terrible I use to own a special event company in Chicgao and it was hell and very expensive. Everything is very expensive. Remember this is Obama country and he is doing to America what the Gov of IL is doing to their people. Think about it folks!

      http://www.josephfawcettart.com western artist

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:30pm

      Indiana, The state without the goons, but we don’t sell beer on Sundays.

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:31pm

      Good for you Indiana.
      But remember who else make a beeline for prosperous economies : illegals.
      Example — CA

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:37pm

      Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Can IN explain that muslim family they keep electing ?
      Whats up with that ?

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    • reserve.myefoods.com
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:42pm

      This is great! More States should do this and create even more competition, then see which has the best economy.

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    • Mannax
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:56pm

      DARMOK AND JALAD AT TANAGRA
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:30pm
      Indiana, The state without the goons, but we don’t sell beer on Sundays.

      Bah.. that will be fixed next year before the Superbowl.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:59pm

      @cheezwhiz
      I have no idea, the only thing I know about Indiana is what I hear from Bob and Tom. And for some reason, they don’t sell alcohol on Sundays.

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    • Showtime
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 11:11pm

      @cheezwhiz
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:37pm
      Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Can IN explain that muslim family they keep electing ?
      Whats up with that ?
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Did you see this?

      World’s Christians in Grave Danger
      By Chris Gonsalves and Kathleen Walter

      The Muslim Brotherhood, with the complicity of the Obama administration, has infiltrated the U.S. government at the highest levels and is influencing American policy that leaves the world’s Christians in grave danger, warns internationally known evangelist Franklin Graham

      “The Muslim Brotherhood is very strong and active here in our country,” Graham tells Newsmax. “We have these people advising our military and State Department. We’ve brought in Muslims to tell us how to make policy toward Muslim countries.

      “It’s like a farmer asking a fox, ‘How do I protect my hen house?’”

      That same Muslim Brotherhood is fomenting much of the rebellion and the deteriorating social order roiling the Middle East, forcing millions of Christians to flee for their lives, says Graham, son of beloved evangelist Dr. Billy Graham, and founder of The Samaritan’s Purse international charity.

      “Under [Egypt’s Hosni] Mubarek and [Jordan’s] King Hussein and other moderate leaders, Christians had been protected,” Graham says. 11 million Christians live in Egypt and I ear for them, because if the Muslim Brotherhood comes to power, you’re going to see a great exodus of Christians. Same thing in Tunisia and Lebanon. I fear for the church because the Muslim Brotherhood is going to be a very terrible thing.”

      A new report from the Roman Catholic aid agency Aid to the Church in Need supports Graham’s contention that the persecution of Christians world­wide has worsened exponentially in the past few years.

      According to the report, Christians face increased suffering in 22 countries around the world, with Iraq, Egypt, Lebanon, Pakistan, and Nigeria being among the worst countries to be a Christian in today.

      The persecution has gotten markedly worse over the past two years according to the organization. ["OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS"]

      “The proportion of countries with a worsening track-record of anti-Christian violence and intimidation would be higher were it not for the fact that in many cases the situation could scarce­ly have been worse in the first place. More than 75 percent of religious persecution in the world is currently being carried out against Christians, the report concludes.

      The Vatican formed a special committee late last year to address the flight of Christians and the rise of militant Islam in the Middle East. In his New Year’s message, Pope Benedict XVI said Christians suffer more than any other religious group because of their faith

      Asked if President Barack Obama was doing enough to protect Christians at home and abroad, Graham says, “No. If anything it’s the opposite.”

      “Muslims are protected more in this country than Christians,” he says. “The president has made many statements but he doesn’t back them up. We have to do more to protect the Christians in the Muslim world. Their lives are in danger.”

      In recent weeks, Obama administration officials have stepped up the defense of their inclusive stance toward Muslims in their ranks. Deputy national security advisor, Denis McDonough, said last week that President Obama is actually trying to prevent terrorism by “dispelling the myths that have developed over the years, including misperceptions about our fellow Americans who are Muslim.”

      “When it comes to preventing violent extremism and terrorism in the United States, Muslim Americans are not part of the problem, you’re part of the solution,” McDonough said at an interfaith forum in Sterling, Va.

      Graham, however says what Obama is really doing is “giving Islam a pass” rather than speaking openly about the “horrific” treatment women and minorities receive.

      “We certainly love the Muslim people,” Graham said in an earlier interview with Newsmax. “But that is not the faith of this country. And that is not the religion that built this nation. The people of the Christian faith and the Jewish faith are the ones who built America, and it is not Islam.”
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Emphasis above is mine.

      Did you catch the sixth paragraph from the bottom, where it talks about Obama?

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 11:20pm

      @Showtime
      The White male Christian, the most endangered species in North America.

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    • Showtime
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 11:26pm

      @Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 11:20pm
      @Showtime
      The White male Christian, the most endangered species in North America.
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      No doubt!!!
      ~~~~~~~~

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 11:31pm

      @ Showtime
      I had to go meet and thank a family whose relatives hosted my brother a few days ago . They are non-muslims from islamic part of the world and so I got to hear something which none of us can even imagine.
      I was asked :
      ” After Iraq and Afghanistan wars and Bush’s efforts, islamic terrorism had finally started waning . People in islamic countries too started realizing the futility of this endless cycle of islamic violence. The people in Western world started getting the truth about the koran and what its final objective is. Why DIDN’T USA cash in on these trends and take them to the next level instead of giving another reason to create even more resentment in islamic communities by blindly bombing Libya ? ”
      So why did Obama bomb Libya ?

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    • Showtime
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 11:40pm

      @CHEEZ ~
      My jaw dropped!

      Send that to Glenn Beck – email!

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 12:13am

      “Build it and they will come”

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    • silentwatcher
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 12:37am

      I guess Illinois is just gonna have to raise the taxes again so they can keep sustaining their desired levels. Either the residents that are left will just hand over their paychecks and accept food tickets,,,,or the only citizens left in the state will be the ones working for their government.

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    • silentwatcher
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 12:46am

      must disagree with this:

      “The White male Christian, the most endangered species in North America.”

      I believe it should read “The white male Christian, the most dangerous species in North America.” Try to take away their liberties and religion,,,,and the world will find out how dangerous. But I’m also not excluding all others who love this country and everything it used to stand for,

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    • Showtime
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 12:49am

      Silent Watcher ~
      Oh, good! You’ve just now posted that.

      Don’t go away — need a min to pull my thoughts together.

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    • Cemoto78
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 12:50am

      No wonder Illinois is broke, they have too high of taxes to pay for all that corruption.

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 1:00am

      @ silentwatcher
      Check the Washington Times report, linked @ Drudge about Department of Jihad’s new policies for white kids.
      Quote
      Here is the catch. DOJ will only investigate bullying cases if the victim is considered protected under the 1964 Civil Rights legislation. In essence, only discrimination against a victim’s race, sex, national origin, disability, or religion will be considered by DOJ. The overweight straight white male who is verbally and/or physically harassed because of his size can consider himself invisible to the Justice Department.
      End quote

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    • Showtime
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 1:02am

      Silent Watcher -
      It got over to page 2.

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    • silentwatcher
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 1:07am

      The is how socialism will be born in the U.S. The governments will strip the resources and wealth from the citizens. Get them used to government aid,,,make them dependant on it. Build the socialistic views to a now broken society. I’m only referencing Illinois,,,,,,now think about the wealth stripping going on in the NATION by the federal government (wanton, excessive and unsustainable spending), rising unemployement, and government assistance at an alarmingly increasing rate. Need I say more? People just don’t seem to understand. If they ever have a revelation and resist,,,,it will be beautiful.

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    • Showtime
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 1:19am

      SILENT WATCHER -
      When I wrote for the newspaper in the mid 2000s, I ran across an article written by somebody from another country. He said that the best way to overthrow a government was to bankrupt it. And, that’s what the Progressives are working on.

      Thank you.

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    • Showtime
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 1:27am

      @CHEEZ ~
      Re quote about DOJ -
      That just pure sucks!

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    • Showtime
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 1:28am

      I‘ll catch y’all tomorrow — or later today. I got four hours sleep last night, and I have absolutely worked myself to pieces today. Got overheated, had to rest, but I got a lot done. Am worn slap out!

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    • watchtheotherhand
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 1:42am

      Proud to be a Hoosier !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • jfriedri
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 2:44am

      I grew up in Southern Illinois (Nashville IL) and many people in the south are fed up with how our great state has been ruined by Chicago (and all the politicians that have come from there). So many people down there wish they could just sever their connections and re-draw the state-lines. Sounds like Indiana has a lot going for it (still don’t care much for one of its citizens however… David Letterman)

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    • colonial10
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 2:53am

      The sad fact is we can do better then Indiana. If people really cared they’d stop spending money and teach people to fend for themselves. The best offense and defense for the poor and middle class is to learn what the rich know about laws, finances, economy, politics, history, mining, science, foreign policy. The goal should be to learn it, utilize it with integrity, and take back our country from the lazy, the corrupt and the ignorant. The other goal should be to vote in good people of faith and integrity. We need people like our founders who put the people first and an example of this is have our fiscal house in order. Extremely good order. Taxes create crime, lazy people and corrupt people. Let’s have a high standard instead of being mediocre or even slothful. We can do better then Indiana.

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    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 3:30am

      Damn skippy. I live in East Central Indiana and work in a resteraunt approaching its first year anniversary. And we are cranking out the business.
      Now I know why.
      Also, I make the best burgers in the county, and the surrounding 5 counties…

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    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 3:37am

      Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:59pm
      @cheezwhiz
      I have no idea, the only thing I know about Indiana is what I hear from Bob and Tom. And for some reason, they don’t sell alcohol on Sundays.

      Lots of states have that “blue law’….I lived in Georgia for a long time and they don’t sell beer on sundays either. A resteraunt can only sell alcohol on Sunday if 51% of their sales is in food too.
      Unconstitutional, as it violates the First Amendement’s “freedom of religion”, and I been waiting for 20 years for some hotshot constitutional lawyer to bring this issue to the Supreme Court.

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    • avenger
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 7:54am

      hey …the last company leaving turn out the lights…..perhaps it is time for the idiots living there to wake up and clean up the corruption….yes people, you are the ones that allowed this shet to happen !

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    • MiketheTrucker
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 9:03am

      This explains why the democrats who fled WI went to Illinois, they felt right at home.

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    • TPP
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 9:12am

      Illinois owes 85 BILLION IN UNFUNDED PENSIONS AND 45 BILLION IN UNFUNDED HEALTH CARE ALL FOR ITS STATE WORKERS. What else needs to be said.

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    • Mr.Nick
      Posted on March 20, 2011 at 4:03pm

      Problem is that Illinois is a welfare state. I’m a metro Chicagoland resident.

      The democrats treat the working class private sector taxpayers like their only use is to sustain the government employees and the welfare crowed – or the liberal voting base.

      All the democrats do is raise taxes and then pocket most of the revenue then redistribute the rest to their welfare sheep who are really nothing more than democrat voters on retainer.

      The police here are authoritarian and our civil laws absolutely violate the Bill of Rights 1-10.

      I dont believe people realize how absolutely tyrannical Illinois actually is.

      I’m absolutely glad to see Wisconsin and Indiana creating competition.

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    • JGP
      Posted on March 21, 2011 at 12:21am

      Perfect example of why we need 50 sovereign states with up to 50 competing state governments (like it was designed to be by the constitution) and not a federal government that gets involved in state affairs (unfortunately because of states letting them) and taking taxes from tax payers in every state to pay for failed policies in states like Illinois. If companies and people did move to Indiana from Illinois and left Illinois with a smaller tax base, do you think the federal money to Illinois would be more or less? What’s the incentive for Illinois to be competitive? The machine there will still get their money while playing the champions of the downtrodden and whipping up class envy blaming it on somebody else. Some old shtuff.

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