Illinois Attorney General Demands Release of All Gun Owners’ Names
- Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:04pm by
Meredith Jessup
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Gun owners have the constitutional right to bear arms, but do they have a right to confidentiality?
The state of Illinois is currently weighing this question. On Monday, state Attorney General Lisa Madigan’s office issued a ruling that declared the names of gun permit holders to be public information that must be disclosed. But the agency overseeing such permits — the Illinois State Police — may challenge the ruling in court once it becomes binding.
The Chicago Tribune notes that state police officials have long believed that releasing such information about firearm permit holders would an unwarranted invasion of privacy and ultimately endanger the lives of gun owners of those who don’t have firearms. But the attorney general disagrees, claiming the public has a “legitimate interest” in knowing who owns a gun.
The debate began after the Associated Press filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request last September for the names of each state permit holder and their permits’ expiration dates. When the state police agency denied the AP’s request, the public access counselor intervened.
“The General Assembly has clearly determined that it is in the public interest to provide a system for identifying those who are qualified to acquire or possess firearms through the issuance of FOID [Firearm Owners identification] cards,” assistant public access counselor Matthew Rogina wrote at the time. “The public, therefore, has a legitimate interest in ISP’s enforcement of the FOID card act.”
The attorney general later insisted that addresses and telephone numbers of FOID cardholders should remain private.
On Tuesday, a state police attorney announced that the agency may take the matter to court. Meanwhile, Republican state lawmakers are planning to debate legislation that would make the state’s 1.3 million gun owners’ names permanently private.
“You can own a handgun, and information about whether you do or don’t is private information,” state Rep. Ron Stephens said. “There is no reason for anyone or any government agency to make available to you or anyone else whether I have a FOID card.”
(Chicago Tribune)
But Brian Malte of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence disagrees. “There should be public scrutiny on any licensing system, whether it’s to own or to buy or to carry,” Malte said. “The public has a right to know how well those systems are working, especially when it involves firearms.”
Knowing who has guns and who doesn’t means criminals know whom to burglarize, or worse, said Todd Vandermyde, Illinois lobbyist for the National Rifle Association (NRA). “You potentially make us targets… Or, on the inverse, you could say, ‘These are the homes that don’t have FOID cards so it‘s likely they don’t have guns, so therefore they make better targets.’”
The state police made the same argument, but the attorney general dismissed it as “speculative and conclusory.”
“ISP has offered no details to support its argument that disclosure of this information to the AP would result in a safety threat to any individual,” Rogina wrote.
State Sen. Kirk Dillard, a Republican sponsoring the Senate legislation making FOID information private, also warned that people who want to own guns but don‘t want their names publicized may be forced not to comply with existing law if the attorney general’s decree stands.
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Comments (386)
walker1812
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:31pmI live in this piece of crap of a State. States and cities run by Democrats are so much more likely to be in the toilet than not. This has to be unconstitutional. We have a right to have this information kept out in the public domain. I see a big lawsuit coming.
Report Post »fastfwd
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 9:48pmYes there will be a huge law suit . It is just so stupid !
Report Post »Sinista Mace
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 5:42pmThis is the stupidest idea I’ve heard of in a short time. One more step to disarming the populace.
Report Post »Newshound
Posted on March 4, 2011 at 11:14amI feel for you, however, I don’t think your Attorney General will be able to deliver on his promise. How do you display all of the people that have unregistered weapons.
Report Post »Ezekiel
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:30pmAs the rights of citizens are reduced, the ability of government to regulate increases. I would not be surprised if the Second Amendment becomes a Federal enforcement issue, no longer will the states decide. If this becomes law, then it will be one more step toward an Orwellian future.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 10:14pmIt will also mean a lot of needless deaths, cops don’t want the job because they know in many states the public out guns them, so the only way to disarm the law abiding citizens is the military.
Report Post »Either way it doesn’t go well for anyone.
Fight for America
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:27pmWow – and how will they get the bad guys/gals to register their names so they can be reported?
Yes oh yes, Illinois the Corrupt has nothing else to do but tell people who the law abiding gun owners are.
Report Post »Paleo Archer
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 8:17pmin all fairness…when people or the press speak of Illinois…they really mean Chicago and Springfield…..The down staters are probably pretty sensible. And knowing the chicago/springfield Mob…they care less about the rest of the state. Just look at East St.louis, illinois.
Report Post »brntout
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:24pm@ COMMONSENSEGUY The good folks who have registered their guns should have only registered their pea shooter and not the heavy artillery cause the crims will be at the front doorstep in tiny pieces.Saw this one coming years ago so abided by the rule that said register your “hand” guns before they once again changed the rules.Don’t worry as stupid as this is alot of vets out there are p.o‘d and aren’t following the rules.
Report Post »GayDem4Beck
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:31pmIn Florida you don’t have to register your gun, because of cases like this. You have to jump thru the federal hoops and waiting periods to get a gun, but they are not registered/recorded here. So they have no idea what types of guns or how many guns you have.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:24pmobama’s IL Democrats are going to get innocent people killed — whether it is the gun owners FOR their weapons or the unarmed & unprotected Joe Blow in his little straw house..
the obama democrats are going to get Americans killed with their all-consuming need to know and control every aspect of our lives.
not only that, but that scene from RED DAWN when the invaders KNOW which homes have guns, now that is frightening… the democrats want that TO happen.
Report Post »tenring
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:23pmThis is the reason FOID cards should be unconstitutional infringements.
Report Post »MilitaryDad
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 11:00pmAlthough I shot Expert in the Army, I’ve never owned anything but a .22 varmint rifle, but I think it may be time to go shopping for a knockdown handgun and a Bushmaster, before they are gone from the marketplace…
Report Post »Country
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:22pmWho in their right mind would want to live there anyways? Do they really think criminals register thier firearms. Stupid.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 6:06pmConsidering progressive radicals believe 25 to 50 million people will need to die in order for them to move forward to their socialist utopia I don’t think they really care.
They so want the killing to start and at this point I don’t think they care who starts it, this seems a step/nudge to me.
Report Post »F-BROKER
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:22pmThis just in! In a completely unrelated story, the AP is requesting the names of all registered on TheBlaze.com.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:27pmsame thing. obama considers gun owners to be his biggest threat to him in America.
Report Post »IntheKnowOG
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 6:20pmDon’t forget Bible owners….
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 12:34amI have no doubt the Dept of Justice will try to get all that info in the near future. That‘s why it’s not wise to participate in these blogs nor register in order to post messages. The lower profile you can keep the better. That’s not to suggest hiding in fear…its just suggesting being wise as a serpent using forsight. But…too late for me. We make ourselves vulnerable to police action simply by being here on the Blaze. I almost didn’t register for that very reason. Everytime someone runs their mouth in these blogs saying foolish things which make for vulnerability they might want to consider their words coming back to bite them as incriminating evidence 5 or 10 years down the road. Digital records never go away. I shake my head and ask what happened to my country? We need to pray that God will give us a national revivel soon. In my opinion the entire problem in this country is that we as a nation stopped seeking God and started worshiping materialism. Wev’e gone astray as a nation. And now, because of our disreguard for Gods wisdom reguarding the borrower being the slave of the lender, we are about to become a slave nation worried about the government kicking down front doors searching for guns and probably bibles also. There you go. Check out what sin does to people and nations. They are in outright rebellion against God, and the spirit of lawlessness is taking over in our government and on the streets.. They can rationalize it and call it any name they want its still rebellion against God. So yea…the BEAST already has your number.
Report Post »F-BROKER
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 9:06pmI say….Bring it BEAST
Report Post »svedka
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:22pmGreat thinkers these folks are, while they are at it they should make a list of all the crackheads too. Because people don’t kill people guns do and well that must translate to crackheads somehow. Give em a million dollars I am sure they will figure it out and get this list thing straightened out. Bla bla bla bla bla.
Report Post »Jimbo96
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:21pmAttorney General Lisa Madigan is a complete and total miscreant, xeynific yak plop…sorry if that offends the liberal/progressive/Marxist/communist’s among you, but that is what she is if she thinks that it‘s public information to disclose who does or doesn’t have a firearm…
Report Post »NeoKong
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:19pmGreat…now burglars will know which house to break into to steal a gun. I wonder how Brian Malte would feel about anybody being able to write down his license plate number and then have access to his name and home address….? What’s the difference ?
Report Post »IntheKnowOG
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 6:16pmA) Guns should be in a safe or on your person
Report Post »B) If a is adhered to, then they will only break into one gun owners house
C) Less Democrat voters in the long run
In the know
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:19pm“speculative and conclusory”?? The same could be said of the AG’s opinion in this matter. God bless the ISP Director for refusing to comply with this unethical and unconstitutional chicanery. I suppose this AG, while holding that gun owners have no right to privacy, also holds the “right to privacy” supports a woman’s “right” (sic) to abortion on demand–even for minors–and parental notification rights are non-existent? Remember folks, these lawyers–like Illinois’ AG–are not dumb. They are DISHONEST. The rule of law means nothing to these cretans.
Report Post »IntheKnowOG
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 6:18pmHere! Here! Good show old chap! Your name is catchy….
Report Post »IntheKnowOG
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 6:23pmHey Blaze, don’t delete me bro. I Agreed with In The Know. His statement is dead on. So, I say again. Here! Here! Good show old chap! Your name is catchy…
Report Post »chips1
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:18pmWhy don’t they just publish the complete list of people in the state that are unarmed and then remove the name when they decide to buy protection?
Report Post »boonerdan
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:15pmMost gun owners and gun rights groups are missing the entire issue here. The real question is how can a government body “license” an inalienable right guaranteed by the Bill of Rights? Imagine the outrage if the government decided to require a “license” to practice free speech!
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:21pmthe way these idiots are going,they just might.
Report Post »IntheKnowOG
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 6:11pmIt’s called FCC “regurlatin Rush Lermball” (thank you Al Sharpie). Thaysah gonna try!
Report Post »jefferson1743
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:14pmwell if some gay couple can get married in california and it is recognized in Illinois then my concealed gun permit should be good there also correct.
Report Post »GayDem4Beck
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:26pmHey Jefferson… that’s kind of a funny comment.. but YES I agree. As it is, Florida’s CWP is valid in 26 other states and Florida accepts the other states permits as well.
Report Post »wrs840
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:49pmMy Concealed-Carry Permit is good in 35 States.
Too bad I lost all my guns in a Tragic Boating Accident.
Report Post »IntheKnowOG
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:54pmThat’s because we are not morons in FL. Just parts…like West Palm Beach, St Petersburg, Jacksonville and Orlando.
Report Post »Roosterius Maximus
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 3:15pmFlorida & Texas have the highest number of concealed handgun reciprocity agreements! My point? All you gun lovers in Illinois come down & join us- vote with your feet…on the other hand, that sorta seems like ceding the land itself to the liberals & they should not be allowed a foothold on our soil!!
Report Post »biggreenboo
Posted on March 4, 2011 at 11:22am@wrs840
What the hell were you doing on a boat with a bunch of guns?
Report Post »Kansas Mom
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:14pmIf this were to happen in Kansas I’d have to go out and buy a gun. I wouldn‘t want the bad guys to know that I’m the only one on my block without a gun to protect myself.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:26pmwe hear ya.
Report Post »MAJORMINOR
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 7:21pmGun ownership in Illinois will increase enormously.
Report Post »ilovethiscountry
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 8:01pm@ kansas mom
Report Post »Why wait? Get the gun and take you and your children through gun safety classes. You should take them through the classes anyway. With the number of guns around it is a good thing to know. You also learn about survival if you end up stuck out in the wild somewhere.
id-look-fat-in-a-burka
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:12pmThis is why you don’t get your concealed weapons permit…..but carry any way!!
Report Post »SHOMESTATEJOE
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:57pmI agree, i rushed out to get a conceal/carry permit here in missouri, had it for 3 years and then did not renew it for this very reason. wake up people
Report Post »Room 101
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:11pmWhy am I not surprised that this is coming out of Illinois?
Report Post »bassist237
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:10pmOh, this will be good… We should do this in California as a test run…
Report Post »VivaFreedom
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:10pmWhat the heck. I guess the police are unqualified to know much about criminals??
Report Post »SidneyDave
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:10pmWhy not a list of people that have home burglar alarms?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:30pmWhere I live you are required to register it and have a sticker near your door where the police can scan your information. I am sure the crooks can too.
Report Post »Slobaphobe
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:09pmJust as soon as lawmakers release records of all the valuables in their homes along with their work schedules and alarm codes.
Report Post »psycodad36
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 7:56pmnice.actually short and to the point
Report Post »smartypoop
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:09pmWhy not just paint an actual target on their back or put a big sign on their houses for the burglars “guns here”
Report Post »The sole purpose of this is to intimidate gun owners and make them targets. The progressives love to make it personal, espically an assualt on the santicty of their targets home.
RightUnite
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:18pmYeah, then those who don’t have guns will be handy targets for burglars… I don’t have a problem with that. Just don’t call for my help with your burglar, because I’m sure the cops will be too busy to deal with you.
Report Post »IntheKnowOG
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:43pmI wouldn’t mind that at all. Hell, post a list on the walls of parole boards, etc. I think it should be mandatory for all gun owners to plant signs with a skull and crossbones in their yard as well. We can call it: Operation Reality Check. The Democrat party will be bankrupt the week after lefty houses are targeted and gun owners sip sweet tea on their porches at night. The week after that, open carry will be mandatory in all states. Soon, prisons will be UNDERcrowded and the leftists in this country will be all but extinct.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:45pm@Rightunite
Good point, the release of these lists will make the criminals jobs that much easier; and the police will have their hands full even faster and harder than ever before.
Report Post »Dio fan
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 8:04pmJust wait until Westboro Baptist Church members picket your house because your a ‘registered gun owner!’ They are using freedom to kill freedom. If they use freedom to ruin the lives of those who support freedom, then who will take the stand to defend said freedom in the end? Collapsing the system is their means to reach their objectives…and their doing it!
Report Post »Roosterius Maximus
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 3:07pmMake no mistake folks…these people(and I mean the Zero Admin & all his fascist minions) cannot stand to have you armed. This is the lastest constriction(as in a Boa Constrictor) in the leftist anti-gun long-term plan. They are satisfied to look beyond 10 yrs, 25 yrs, 50 years, even their lifetimes to try and get rid of an armed citizenry. We have reached the point now, where the progressive leftist attacks on the 2nd ammendment will be ramped-up on into the future- this is the point(they believe) when they can really squeeze the “prey”, if you will. My question for you all is: What happens when that same snake attacks an animal that is simply too big and strong for it to handle? You and I have no choice but to be that animal(together). This administration is NOT on the side of the American people. Need evidence?? Don‘t you find it funny that our current gov’t has more in common with our enemies than with our allies or even the republican party or the Tea party??? Don’t think so?? Well, hillary clinton would like you to know that Al jazeera is “real” news and Eric Holder’s “people” don’t get prosecuted for obvious wrongdoing(I heard Glenn’s retraction this morning & Holder still played favoritism based on race)
Report Post »TheDHndrsn
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:06pmBring it.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:48pmAnother incentive to illegally obtain firearms.
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 6:41pmI was hoping for a little excitement, too bad I’m in Utah. One in four people have concealed carry permits, want to roll the dice?
ZeitgeistBuster
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 6:42pmThe net is being closed in and we don’t have anybody with a knife to cut the chords. The Star Wars line seems right on here: I’VE GOT A BAD FEELING ABOUT THIS.
Report Post »SHASTADIANE1
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 7:04pmSomething that no one has mentioned here is another reason why they want to have the information about who owns guns. And it isn’t the “public” that needs this information, it is the “government”. When they know who has the guns, and they get ready to take them away from us, they will have an idea where to start. Only thing is, this is “licensed or permitted weapons”. They didn’t say another about the unpermitted ones. If they get it in IL, then they will try for it in another State. The more they get, the better chance they have of taking them. Personally, it is no ones business IF I have a gun, or how many guns I have. Unless I go out and commit a crime with them, the government needs to stay out of my life. I pay taxes….unlike a lot of people, and if they push me, I’ll quit my job and let them do without my tax $$$’s…lol! (joking about this of course) But it does make you think.
Report Post »mhills51
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 9:00pmThe attorney general later insisted that addresses and telephone numbers of FOID cardholders should remain private
Why? Using the information act all info should by law be released. Who gets to pick and chose. Also he has it wrong! The freedom of info act is on government documents about government actions not it’s citizens. With his logic I want to file and find out everyone’s social security numbers right now.
Report Post »snidley-whiplash
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 11:12pmWant names, addresses, age etc. for free zabasearch.com
Report Post »Spread it around.
snidley-whiplash
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 11:18pmHere try it yourself. http://www.zabasearch.com/
Report Post »GEW
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 11:31pmIs the the precursor to confiscation of all legal guns?
Report Post »GEW
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 11:31pmIs the precursor to confiscation of all legal guns?
Report Post »TheDHndrsn
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 10:26pmI live in IL. With the exception of Chicago, the remainder of the State tends to run pro-2nd Amendment and RTC. Unfortunately, the Peoples Republic of Chicago stuffs enough ballet boxes to ruin it for the rest of us.
Report Post »StuntDrivin4U
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:06pmSo there is no more right to privacy? Riiiiiight
Report Post »Rogue
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:13pmI myself think it should be public information on who is a progressive, socialist, marxist or communist. Those are the real threats to our society.
Conservative Hippy
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:18pmIf they do this then everyone in the state better get on that list so as to not be targeted by criminals!… I‘d rather they know I have a gun and avoid me than think I don’t and try to rob me!…
Boss J
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:18pmSure, give out all the gun owners names, but you have to walk through fire to find out where the GD sex offenders are in your neighborhood.
Report Post »drphil69
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:18pmC’mon, this is just so smart burglars can look up their targets to see if they have guns! It is to protect the innocent burglar, who only steals to feed his kids!
If I were a criminal I would want this information to be public!!
Report Post »missionarydad
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:19pmI guess you need to ask Obama, he decides what rights we have. Can you believe this, criminals would love to have this information. Make it public information that way the union thugs and far leftest anarchist can mob up and come around and start trying to confiscate them so they will be the only civilians with weapons. All I know is people are guaranteed the right to privacy and if really want to know try trespassing on our property and you will know.
CatB
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:23pmMaybe those not on the list should worry .. kind of like “gun free zones’“ or as I like to call them ”sitting duck zones” .. the criminals will know who does NOT have defense.
And yes I am against this … anyway. Because I think their intent .. is to know where to come and get them from citizens.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:25pmRight now they have to come to my door and see the Lifetime NRA member sticker .. or the Hitch cover on my SUV stating the same thing.
Report Post »Quagaar Warrior
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:27pm~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Report Post »HEY, How the heck did they get a picture of my kitchen table?
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cheezwhiz
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:28pmBut the attorney general disagrees, claiming the public has a “legitimate interest” in knowing who owns a gun.
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Public ? Really ? Or do you mean
public = people who own guns without permits ,
you know strret thugs and criminals and drug-dealers and murderers and bank-robbers and pimps
a k a
Obama’s ahem…organizers ??
N37BU6
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:31pmDon’t complain… look at it from the other angle: Everyone they don‘t name doesn’t have a gun. Then the criminals will know who to rob.
Sounds good to me. Push for it.
Report Post »GayDem4Beck
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:40pmWe need to all call/email the Illinois State Police and voice our support and defense of them and there position in supporting there citizens privacy.
Illinois State Police WebStie
http://www.isp.state.il.us/
Media Relations -Captain Scott Compton
(217) 782-6637
Email General Questions to – comptog@isp.state.il.us
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:41pmSo another crony or supporter of the POTUS agenda has emerged; to put it simply, when the list of names is released to the public, then those who want all guns taken away will be able to target the owners for violence, hence making their argument of guns leading to violence a reality when those same owners use them for self defense.
Also, as others have posted, the people who want to steal the guns will know where and what ones are availible; who has how many of them, and especially who does not, so they can also target the most vulnerable at the same time.
The main question I have to ask also, is why in the blasted depths of the oceans abyssal plane does the Associated Press want this information for? And why should they be allowed to endanger others with it?
There seems to be something else going on here…look in the direction of the Federal AJ office…that is where the next move will come from.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:43pmWe the people then want the name and addresses of those who vote for Democrates.
Report Post »ltb
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:51pmDo Liberals ever think anything through? If I’m a burglar in IL, I can tell you whose homes I won’t be breaking into… the homes where the AG tells me there are gun owners waiting to blow burglars away.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:51pmLemme be a worm and burrow inside an anti-American brain.
Here is what I find that pile of smelly stuff is planning :
Step 1. Get a list of all legal gun-owners, their addresses and phone #s, using a marxist judge
Step 2 : Get google to map those addresses and consolidate all their other info
Step 3 : Accidently and unknowingly have that info leaked to a foreign source
Step 4 : Use the crisis to retaliate against legal gun owners and also give more power to local anti-American entities while adding even more security around the families and houses of the marxists themselves
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 5:55pmOkay…On Glenn’s TV program today, he barely (but did) “mention” the Eric Holder: Focus on Black Panther Case Demeans ‘My People’ statement…would someone like to explain to me why Glenn didn’t make a HUGE DEAL ABOUT THIS ON TV? THIS IS A HUGE DEAL! The DOJ is riddled with corruption and Glenn knows it! Glenn talked about it on his radio program…the article was posted here on The Blaze…BUT…ONLY A BARE MENTION of it on TV? WHY? Very, very disappointing to me! I’m on Mountain Time so the program has about 10 more minutes to air…MAYBE he’ll bring it up again before the program ends, but I doubt it! I was also confused about his reporting today on the financial meltdown of 2008…Everyone knows that the entire meltdown “Stinks On Ice”…AGAIN, Glenn just blamed US…for overspending…Okay…Glenn is now talking about his program tomorrow…it will be about “The Enemy Within”…perhaps he’ll nail Mr. Holder then…I can only hope…
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 6:02pm@Cheezwhiz
You just hit upon something of major interest there; look at what has been going on with the police in Seattle, if I remember correctly, and the ‘social justice’ program and indoctrination they are cramming down the officers throats…if the criminals take the guns, then the police departments in Illinois who have such programs will just let the gun crimes go unsolved, thefts will be regarded as making sure the social justice is being carried out and such other nonsense down the line…
This seems to be one way the line is being connected point by point; and now with the Federal AJ speaking about the black panthers intimidating voters, and refusing to bring charges in cases where a minority commits hate crimes on a caucasion person, these views begin to now make more and more sense in being connected.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 6:05pm@AZdebi
I also hope tommorow Glenn will have more on this matter with the DOJ. The lines are being drawn and connected by many in America, I just hope we do not run out of time first.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 6:09pm@Quaggar Warrior
Your kitchen table? Man, and here I thougth they had taken pictures of Nancy Pelosi’s private playground and funroom…
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 6:10pmAnd going a step further, there may as well be a sign outside the homes of gun owners that says “MAY NOT BE HOME, STEAL GUNS HERE”, or, “COME ALL THE WAY IN SO IT’S A LEGAL SHOT”. She is just asking for trouble and the blood will be on her hands.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 6:18pm@Grandmaof5
Early evening to you, hotter than anything today here. This attorney general meets my definition of a left wing, no guns or rights to bear arms, wacked out liberal who has a mega bleeding heart for the administrations ideals of social justice and collective salvation.
Ones like this will be the end of us yet if we do not make the stand here and now.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 6:20pmYou just can’t fix stupid!
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 6:22pmThe first thing I did when I saw this story was copy and past the link to it into an email to my political forum group and ask if we needed some sort of protective laws against it in Georgia, too.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 6:27pm@ Snowleopard
Report Post »Its always the OTHER HAND which comes out and punches you in the face .
Now who have I heard say that ?
hud
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 6:29pmI thought Louisiana was bad, but Illinois is truly the ***** state
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 6:45pm“Illinois Attorney General Demands Release of All Gun Owners’ Names”
Under two conditions… 1. We demand that you release all the names of Democrats in the state of Illinois that have been caught with a ******! 2. You also release all the home addresses of all Democrat politicians in the state.
http://www.americasteapartynews.com
Report Post »Lantern
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 6:51pmFirst tell us why you believe you have a legitimate interest to know who owns a gun, AG Madigan? Why do you need to know who legally has a gun? Why don’t you spend your time finding who illegally has a gun? When does HER term expire?
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 7:08pmQuagar > You crack me up!
Report Post »Anyone > Didn’t this get proposed in another state sometime in the last 5 years? The idiots keep proposing the same “solutions” to avoid dealing with the real problems (it’s the people with guns NOT on the registers that are the dangerous crime committers here) . Lantern nails it again!
psycodad36
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 7:19pmthere is no right to privacy! only the protection from unreasonable search and siezure.(misspelled) .but we do have a RIGHT to keep and bear arms.
Report Post »now my question is this, will the felons whom are denied they‘re rights even after doing they’re required sentence be on that list,because they won’t be (legally registered).although they get to keep ALL of the other rights afforded the bill of rights.
UNDERSTANDABLY some folks shouldn’t carry,but then again some people should shut thee hell up,(not dirrected at you)and this is not an endorsement of criminals running around armed,just sayin, what righs shoud be up held and which shouldn’t,(again not @ you but @ this politician.)
independentvoteril
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 7:24pmProblem is the Nut bag Democrats are worried that conceal and carry WILL pass this time.. therefore the next best thing is out the owners.. thinking that will make a difference.. which could be WHY people in IL don’t register their guns..
Report Post »Tnredneck
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 7:26pmThey could care less about privacy. They will have your private medical records. And know who owns guns. This is all about control. They are after our guns!
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 7:27pmThis is FUNNY I have a FOIA CARD but do I have a weapon..? I have a charge card to but does that mean I use it???
Report Post »Buck Bagaw
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 7:30pmJust publish her home address, the Illini gun owners can all go there to “register”.
Report Post »ozz
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 8:03pmThis is nothing short of harassment of gun owners. They never quit, they just push more n more.
Report Post »when they come for mine they can have it bullets first.
MOLAN LABE!
hifi74
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 8:20pmThis is just one more push to marginalize the 2nd amendment and strip yet more of our rights from us the citizenry
Report Post »Jethro212
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 8:21pmI don’t mind if the public knows, but if my home is ever broken into, they get to pay for all of them to be replaced, as new, with same optics.
Long live Arizona, vote with your dollars and feet, come join the awesome State of Arizona!
Report Post »BETTY CROCKER
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 8:22pmThe better not make me register my knives!!
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 8:23pmCHEEZWHIZ,
Close, they are using public as you would use it for say “public sector”.
Report Post »ManThong
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 8:36pmSome democrat has a dirty deal with someone in the alarm business.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 8:41pm““ISP has offered no details to support its argument that disclosure of this information to the AP would result in a safety threat to any individual,” Rogina wrote.”
The whole point of the Seccond Amendment was to protect citizens from government, so the “details” would be found in our founding documents.
Regarding protection from other citizens, which was not the purpose of the Second Amendment, but is nevertheless a concern, the “details” for that would be in the very reason the Left cites as reason to restrict gun ownership – namely, the fact that would-be robbers, themselves, think that guns are an effective deterrant to force, as evidenced by their choice to use them.
Arm yourselves, America. And hide them from government knowledge. It’s our right, and our protection from corrupt government.
Report Post »RedHarley
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 8:46pmIf this goes through, maybe the legislature should look at ALL kinds of information that the public has a “legitimate interest” in learning.
If I lived in Illinois I would be telling my representatives that I have a legitimate interest in knowing:
Which public officials have ever had (or have)a sexually transmitted disease.
The square footage of the houses of all public officials and their energy use.
All vehicles owned by all public officials.
The bank account balances of all public officials.
Phone logs of all phones used by public officials.
I could go on…..but you get the point.
(on second thought…..my ideas might just get enacted in Illinoistan)
Report Post »JD Carp
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 8:47pmThis idea is probably worse for the non gun owner. Once the criminals know who own guns they will bypass that house for the unarmed, undefended home. You need to realize private gun ownership is a very stressful concept for criminals whis is why they are so in favor of strict gun controls. .
Report Post »Cemoto78
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 8:52pmThis attorney general in Illinois must be an understudy of the U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder. They are both anti-constitutionalists and should both be disbarred, immediately. More moronic progressives at work. We are in soooooo much trouble with these jack knobs.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 8:53pmLisa, I have lots of guns. Too bad I don’t live under your ridiculous government.
Report Post »joef
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 9:25pmYou just named the whole obama administration Rouge.
Report Post »random357
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 9:26pmThis was tried in Ohio. Didn’t work.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 9:56pmCome to my house Lisa and see how long it takes you to pry it from my cold dead fingers..Bring backup babycakes.
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 10:03pmYea,,,good idea. Let every thug/criminal know who is permitted to carry a gun in Illinois. If I was a resident who didn’t have guns, I’d be concerned, as the criminals then KNOW which homes to intrude. (Recall the Florida crime rate went DOWN when more liberal guns laws were passed for the law abiding citizen.)
No, this is for certain groups (socialists/commies special interest groups) to know so when the have a brain-fart and think they can take over, they know who to take the guns from first. I must admit, they have audacity,,,,in addition to mendacity. Pukes.
Report Post »arx
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 10:09pmIn the first place, they have no business knowing in the first place who owns guns. Second, this is just vindictive against lawful gun owners. Third, it is idiocy because it endangers those who don’t own guns. The stupidity is appalling. What rock did these bastards crawl out from under?
Report Post »beebacksoon
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 10:29pmDon’t register your weapons.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 11:09pm@cheezwhiz:
Report Post »Lemme be a worm and burrow inside an anti-American brain.
Here is what I find that pile of smelly stuff is planning :
Step 1. Get a list of all legal gun-owners, their addresses and phone #s, using a marxist judge
Step 2 : Get google to map those addresses and consolidate all their other info
Step 3 : Accidently and unknowingly have that info leaked to a foreign source
Step 4 : Use the crisis to retaliate against legal gun owners and also give more power to local anti-American entities while adding even more security around the families and houses of the marxists themselves
@Snowleopard:
@Cheezwhiz
You just hit upon something of major interest there; look at what has been going on with the police in Seattle, if I remember correctly, and the ‘social justice’ program and indoctrination they are cramming down the officers throats…if the criminals take the guns, then the police departments in Illinois who have such programs will just let the gun crimes go unsolved, thefts will be regarded as making sure the social justice is being carried out and such other nonsense down the line…
This seems to be one way the line is being connected point by point; and now with the Federal AJ speaking about the black panthers intimidating voters, and refusing to bring charges in cases where a minority commits hate crimes on a caucasion person, these views begin to now make more and more sense in being connected.
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Excellent points Cheese
Brilliant “connecting of the dots” Snow…
gotta tell ya…some guys have a way of cutting through all the crap, fitting the pieces and getting to the bigger picture…outstanding!
AzDebi
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 11:35pm“State Sen. Kirk Dillard, a Republican sponsoring the Senate legislation making FOID information private, also warned that people who want to own guns but don‘t want their names publicized may be forced not to comply with existing law if the attorney general’s decree stands.”
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Bingo! AND…I’ll be sure to go out and buy 4 times the firearms I now own…J.I.C. they decide to confiscate those they will already KNOW about! Give me a break…these people are NUTS!
thepatriotdave
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 12:22am“The public has a right to know…”
Total BS. I would like to see one legitimate reason for releasing the names of legal gun-owners. Gun ownership is the one big obstacle in the way of the anti-American tools trying for an outright takeover of the country. Sixty million legal gun owners showing up in D.C. could have one helluva effect!
http://www.americasteapartynews.com
Report Post »NotaLemming
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 12:29amThis is where Rights Come Form
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdAPuUkxZbQ
FatherOf2FromNJ
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 12:30amMaybe they should just make it easier and release the list in google map format so those who are interested in such info know which houses to avoid when they are performing their home invasions and burglaries. guns at 3 and 7 main street so it looks like we’ll kick in the door at 5 Main Street. Thank you AP for saving the criminal element all that time and research.
Report Post »BidBerthaDotCom
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 1:20amSo, using the government’s assertion that the public has a right to know, perhaps they should also release a list of all the unarmed homeowners as well.
Report Post »Cobra Blue
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 1:38amDo you really think the Illinois Atty General is worried about attacks on gun owners. Hell no. Keep on pushing all you liberal progressive types. One of these days real soon you are going to push a bit too far and then a push back like you have never seen is coming. And when it starts, it’s not going to stop until its all said and done. And you will rue. There is going to be a pay day some day soon. And its going to be expensive.
Report Post »TruthLover
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 2:08am@ConservativeHippie – dead on! I’d think that being ON the list would be better than NOT! And don’t worry – all “rights” to privacy we used to have will be gone soon anyway – now that Barry has proven that our rights come from the Government (or him, personally) and not from God, that pesky “creator” he keeps trying to erase.
Report Post »Uncle Buck
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 2:28amI live in Louisiana and not Illinois but It doesn’t bother me if my name is on a list made public.
Report Post »Here in LA. most people have guns and are proud of that fact. A lot of the gun owners also have cc permits as I do. I am proud of my 2nd amendment right to bear arms. I carry every day and I would
even protect one of those Democrats, socialist, Marxist and global warming nuts even tho they probably don’t deserve protection. There is an old saying in the southwestern part of Louisiana.
PROTECT THE INNOCENT, NOT THE STUPID OR THE LAZY. Having said that I would still defend them. Just for full disclosure I own may many guns.
ForeignWatcher
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 2:37amReading the comments, most of you seem to care for their poor neighbours that dont have a gun and might become victims through such an act. All fine and dandy.
But all in all there is a question coming to my mind: Why are americans so brutal, why do so little americans obey the law? Why do you do this kind of stuff to each other?
Take a look at “peacefull” Germany: 60 Years ago it may well have been the most militaristic and brutal society ever known. But today? WAY less crimes than the US, WAY less murders. And nealy NO guns.
Whats wrong here in the US? Why cant we manage to live together without the possibility to kill each other any moment?
Report Post »cozmo
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 3:55amSo what can they do with this if you own a gun? Yeah everyone knows it, but the second amendment still allows us to carry right? they cannot remove our arms unless we have done something stupid to break the law. If you make them stand on what they truly believe you burn the floor out from under them. You can always turn the progressive argument on its head. be smart enough to recognize their progressivism and be able to question them on why their theory is better than individual freedom? Why punish the upper class with higher tax rates? That will take money away that they would/could have invested for more jobs. A million dollars creates many more jobs in the private sector than the public sector could ever dream of because according to Obama Gibbs job making 172200 is modest. 1,000,000 could only pay for just under 6 Gibbs jobs. 1,000,000 would could create 20 jobs at close to the average american at 50,000 per job.
Report Post »cozmo
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 4:04amI rescind my comments on who cares who knows. They need the proof why they need any info. they have told us for the last 100 years that they knew best. (yeah right) they need to prove to us why the same old mistakes that they are pushing is what we need in the future? they won’t point out why we need to point to the Second Amendment for a reason to carry a firearm as law-abiding citizens.
Report Post »Double_M
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 9:10amI guess we surrender all our rights to privacy when we legally apply for one of these permits for firearms. It makes one think; what else they are going to use this a stepping stone for? Oh that’s right, when they ban firearms they will know exactly where to go to take them back. This is a terrible idea making this information public knowledge. What if this information fell into the wrong people hands?
What other privacy to we have to surrender to these jack-a-lopes?
Report Post »Ashrak
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 9:24amPrivacy? Heck, here in Illinois we don’t even have a right to carry a firearm. Lisa Madigan and the General Assembly just ignore the Supreme Court decisions called Heller versus D.C. and McDonald versus Chicago. Many folks mistake FOID as a permit to carry, but it is only a requirement to possess and purchase. Stand alone, Illinois is the only state where Citizens are totally denied their right to carry. Note: Lisa Madigan joined the losing side in both of those cases so it is no surprise she would slam gun owners by saying a list of FOID holders must be made public.
Check out this cartoon video explaining how Illinois government and the Madigans deal with the Second Amendment here in Illinois.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lr7Z3yH_uk
magnum357
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 9:24amrelease the names of people without guns. it will be shorter list and more useful. hummmm
Report Post »taskmaster78
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 9:40amDoes poor little Lisa know what the outcome of this will be? She is exposing those families who, unfortunately don’t have guns in their homes thus putting them in harms way for burglaries as well as assaults. Is she another dimwit produce by our institutions of higher learning?
Report Post »OH, I Get It!
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 9:56amHow about releasing the names of all people who have had abortions? Like guns, abortions kill. But guns don’t always kill, abortions DO!
Report Post »anagnoresis
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 10:09amI think we should have all the names of folks who actually killed people. You know, women who have had an abortion.
Report Post »LeroyJethroGibbs
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 10:27amIllinios will be the first fully socialist state, The model for Obama to show what Change really is.
Report Post »LawDog2005
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 10:45amIf anyone where really concerned about public safety they would request the names of those who don’t qualify for a gun permit.
Report Post »WITHINTHEGATES
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 10:54amRules for progressives
1. You can build an imaginary right to privacy out of the protection from search and seizure clause, then you can use that imaginary right to allow people to murder babies… excellent.
2. You can abandon that imaginary right to privacy, and ALSO abandon actual ammendments (i.e. the 2nd one) at will, as long as it fits your agenda.
3. Don’t worry about the hypocrisy, the media won’t bother to cover it.
Report Post »Rowgue
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 11:18amThere has never been a right to privacy. The only thing even remotely close constitutionally is the protection from unreasonable search and siezure. Legislators are free to make laws deeming basically anything either public information or explicitly private, but there is no basic constitutional right to privacy.
Having said that this request is idiotic and it should not be allowed. The people requesting it have no valid reason for requesting it. They just want a list of names they can drag through the mud.
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 4:04pmwell let me go first ..
Report Post »mauler43
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 7:33pmWow, I wonder if the Illinois Attorney General will show up to the National home burglary association convention to receive his award, as new best friend to all home burglars. As a 25 yr vet. in a large city police dept. I just can’t believe this AG does not realize he would be releasing a one stop shopping list showing every burglar where to go to steal weapons, to use on police, store clerks, bank tellers, and who knows maybe even AG’s. So i’m sure you will have alot of tax paying Illinois citizens really happy with you for making them targets. Sir you are a MORON…..
Report Post »HumbleMan
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 7:40pmI’m with Rogue, … register communists not gun-owners. They have a right to be a communist and we have a right to bear arms. I’d also like for them to publish a list of all women who have had abortions, especially if paid for by taxpayer funds. All sounds fair … right?
Report Post »Homegrownusa
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 8:35pmWho says the public has a right to know what my hobbies are. I tell you what people…… they are slowly conditioning us to deal with their regulation of us people. They take 2 steps we push them back one, then they take 2 more then back one…… gotta pay attention to whats goin on. In 10 or 15 years when firearms are illegal I’ll just revert to throwing knives and swinging bats. Heck I can by a hundred of those at a time and pass them around. Knives are cool.
Report Post »colonial10
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 9:21pmIf they get our names then they can do what they did in New Orleans after Katrina. They can call for a state of emergency and collect our guns without a warrant. We have to ask ourselves who’s behind this law? What is their agenda? What is their ultimate goal?
Report Post »Rightsofman
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 10:52pmYeah but the good side is the crooks will know whose house not to rob so buy that gat and get on the list!!
Report Post »Misty Williams
Posted on March 4, 2011 at 9:49amThe public does NOT have a right to know whether an individual does or does not exercise their God given, Constitutionally protected right to be armed for their personal defense, or sport. Law enforcement should and does have access to this information– the article states that the State Police is the administering agency. Sounds about right to me. The only people that gun laws and gun regulations ever hinder from having guns, or using guns, are the people who are going to ignore the laws and regulations. The law abiding are sunk. Keep your grubby, grabbing hands off my guns and out of my private business!
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on March 4, 2011 at 10:40amI grew up in the Liberal Police State of Chicago, Illinois However I would never again make my home in any state run by the scum known as the democrats. If you live there and have your business there then you deserve what you get. Just take a look at Detroit. That is your future.
Report Post »Newshound
Posted on March 4, 2011 at 11:10amThis is real smart, it’s going to be interesting to see the ILL Attorney General posting all of the illegal people holding on to or possesing firearms as well.
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