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Illinois Churches Urge Gay Clergy to Legalize Their Partnerships, Perform Civil Unions

Illinois Churches Urge Gay Clergy to Legalize Their Partnerships, Perform Civil Unions Church leaders in Illinois are taking the state’s new same-sex civil union law to heart. While some denominations are planning to perform homosexual unions, others are encouraging openly-gay clergy to formally legalize their partnerships.

These sweeping developments come as the dust settles on a new law that allows gay couples to enter into unions. When Gov. Pat Quinn signed the bill back in January, he proudly exclaimed, “We are showing the world that the people of Illinois believe in equality for all.” With the legal debate now settled, the new regulation is beginning to impact Christian denominations.

Here’s a report from WLFD-TV that covers Illinois’ commencement of same-sex civil unions:

The Chicago Tribune reports that the new law is encouraging church leaders to officiate civil unions for gay and lesbian couples. Additionally, Chicago’s Episcopal Church is now urging its clergy who find themselves in committed homosexual relationships to make them legal.

Lutherans are following suit, but with some interesting caveats. Clergy are permitted to officiate same-sex civil unions with permission from the bishop, yet they are barred from performing civil unions for straight couples:

The prohibition on civil unions for straight couples upholds the church’s teaching on marriage and family, Chicago Lutheran Bishop Wayne Miller said.

“If pastors start performing civil unions, it sets up a very confusing message about whether or not this church still holds marriage as the standard for how a man and a woman enter into a lifelong commitment with one another,” Miller said.

Unlike the Episcopal Church, neither the Presbyterian nor the United Church of Christ will require or urge openly-gay clergy in committed relationships to enter into civil unions.

As laws that govern marriage are examined around the nation, all faiths and denominations will be challenged. These latest changes showcase how some Christian leaders will choose to react to new legislative realities. What do you think about these new developments?

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  • Youngin
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:54pm

    Why does the Blaze insist on running stories that are guaranteed to generate hateful, bigoted comments?

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    • KickinBack
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:58pm

      Why does the (Huffington Post/Daily Kos) insist on running stories that are guaranteed to generate hateful, bigoted comments?

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    • compatriotshonor
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:02pm

      Because it’s people in this world that wish for others to understand, that the two natured are not and never will be accepted in the realm of normal living, no-matter the arguement. It is a lost cause for the two natured to understand the natural order, even if it is organized religion.

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    • graywolf11
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:50pm

      check and mate kickin.

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    • hardteachings
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 8:29pm

      the nature of the ‘comments’ would be our responsibility…h

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  • 264win
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:53pm

    State of Illinois Democrat politicians now that we have taken care of your votong base! “Please start focusing like a lazer on jobs”

    Being gay is a mental disorder!

    (about 3.8%) of Americans identify as gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender (2011)

    So 100% of the the citizens of the state of Illinois are feeling the effects of the fact that illinois politicians have run this state in the ground and they worry about 3.8% of the population?

    Like I said this is about votes only.

    Next they will be passing a law that all albino people will get free sun tan lotion for life free from the tax payers!

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  • compatriotshonor
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:51pm

    Ahh, this must be the vision of our coward and chiefs vision in his home state. Not only is it a criminal offense against nature itself, but it is a criminal offense in the name of organized religion, unless of course the new doctrines of church today lay in bed with socialism‘s ’collective salvation’ which I believe in many ways appart of.
    I do not condem those individuals that are two natured because even they are redemable in the eyes of god, just not in thier practice.
    The state of illinois historically is despicable and the state government needs to stay out of the church, you know, the seperation of church and state. Any church and it’s leaders are not going to be faultless in the eyes of god and they know it, but just don’t care!

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  • momprayn
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:49pm

    What do I think? you ask. I think this is further proof that the words of Jesus, Paul, etc. are true that say the “church”, many would “fall away” with apostasy…they will search and only go to those that teach the things they want to hear. Perfect fulfillment of prophecy. These are the ones who would rather please men rather than God…they’ll have more people/money in their congregations and won’t be made fun of or anything by the growing population in this country. Nothing new of course but it’s growing excessively and dangerously now. Yes, Christians will have to make firm decisions – whether to please man or God. This evil cancer will grow bc of human nature & strong satanic forces working on them. For anyone who wants to be enlightened – read Romans 1 (Bible) that tells you how it all started.

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  • BrandyWilson
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:48pm

    …and when judgement hits… no one will call it that…because their minds are gone…and still they will think they are doing God service …leading a flock… yeah! A Flock of the Damned!

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  • Inmyopinion
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:48pm

    The “Lutheran” church mentioned in the article is of the ELCA denomination. I can assure you as a member of the Missouri Snyod Lutheran churches are not supportive. I personally am embarassed the church in the article calls themselves Lutheran. Very interesting read about the church mentioned beliefs. http://holytrinitychicago.org/whoweare/lutheranism.html

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  • Nemo13
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:45pm

    Gheys cannot be married. All (real) religions do not accept them, period. They can do whatever they want legally, and have some Scientolo gy freak grouping, but they are not part of any (real) religion or ceremony. This is nothing more than trying to grey and detroy from the inside religion. The more they push their way in, the more they can try to force others to accept them as normal. They are not. No matter what the state or govt allows, they will never be accept to that which they do not belong. Period. Get over it ghey people.

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  • lhills
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:44pm

    No. All denominations will not be challenged. Real Christian churches will hold fast to the scripture. The PCA (Presbyterian Church of America, very different from the PCUSA) is one of many reformed and conservative denominations that refuse to bend God‘s law to fit man’s. No law formed by man could make a true Christian change their belief about the immorality of the homosexual lifestyle. Any church that accepts homosexual unions, “marriages,” or relationships does not worship the Lord. They worship man.

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  • pandora
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:44pm

    “We are showing the world that the people of Illinois believe in equality for all.”

    I guess that’s why it is the bastion of the Ku Klux Klan too.

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  • Elena2010
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:43pm

    Pretty sad when the shepherds lose their way. Ezekiel 34!

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  • warner
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:43pm

    I’m sorry but there is nothing Godly about same sex unions. I don’t hate these folks but they are perverting the gospel of Jesus Christ to validate sin in their lives. This country is losing its moral fiber and they will see the judgement of the Lord.

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    • Centralsville
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:03pm

      This country is already seeing the judgment of God in so many ways. Does any reasonable person not see that we are already a nation in decline.

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  • 264win
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:41pm

    I wonder if the gay people will be up on there high horse when Obama and the muslim/islam takes over the country will you be flying you rainbow flags then? Since muslim religion will not except these actions. and they will be stoned burned or chopped up in there country currently.

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  • fitsgibbons
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:41pm

    They are SOOOO confused.

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  • PIL
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:41pm

    Different churches have different standards, some forbid alcohol, Mormons don’t like coffee and cigarettes, 7th Day Adventists refuse to eat pork and keep the sabbath holy, some let women preach while others think it’s a sin for women to wear blue jeans… What can I say? The bible is a buffet and we all pick what we like.

    Consider this verse:

    Leviticus 19:28 (King James Bible): “Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I [am] the LORD.”

    Yup, it’s a sin to get tattoos. So where’s the outrage? Where’s the campaign to ban tattooing? The Defense of Physical Beauty Act?

    http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

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    • MikeDiesel
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:59pm

      Way to take a verse out of context. The Hebrew law was about setting them apart from the barbaric cultures that surrounded them. Not cutting yourself when a loved one dies is just plain common sense. And the marking of the body was a common practice among the surrounding nations, particularly Egypt. They would mark themselves to show religious or tribal affiliation, hence in that culture it was the equivalent of idol worship.

      We don’t get to pick and choose which parts of the Bible we like, and leave the rest. Take it or leave it, but it is a package deal, not a “buffet” to select our favorites and pass on the less savory parts.

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    • sickfreak
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:09pm

      My body is a temple and I would never defile it with tattoos

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:11pm

      “We don’t get to pick and choose which parts of the Bible we like, and leave the rest. Take it or leave it, but it is a package deal, not a “buffet” to select our favorites and pass on the less savory parts.”

      So I guess you support slavery, honor killing, capital punishment for breaking biblical law about the sabbath or wearing cotton and wool blends. If you don’t pick and choose then you must stand by this.

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    • MikeDiesel
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:30pm

      @Encinom
      You don‘t have a clue what you’re talking about. Give me a specific example, and I will educate you. Otherwise, leave your sweeping generalizations at the door. I‘m sure you’re not personally familiar with the Bible, but feel free to site a specific book, chapter and verse, and I will gladly take you to school.

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:16pm

      Lets see, Honor Killing:
      ” And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire. ” (Leviticus 21:9)”

      “And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. (Exodus 21:17)”

      “For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. (Leviticus 20:9)”

      But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father’s house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you. Deuteronomy 22:13-21

      Bonus here, stoning also.

      Blended Cloth:
      Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, [as] of woollen and linen together.
      Deuteronomy 22:11

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    • PIL
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 5:11pm

      MikeDiesel, you way I take that verse way out of context and that tattooing was a barbaric practice of foreign cultures. So what? A sin is a sin is a sin. You probably have tattoos so you ignore the commandment against tattoos, another fellow is probably gay and ignores that commandment as well. How are you different from him? You’re both doing what you like. And don’t get me started with masturbation! Very few people give a darn about the sin of Onan (which was spilling his seed and not getting some woman pregnant, a woman who wasn’t even his wife but he had to impregnate her because his brother married her and died before he could, yup, this was based on another weird commandment).

      Now don’t take me wrong, I believe in God. But unlike the Muslims, I will decide what to follow from the bible and what to ignore. Besides, I can’t afford 600 wives and 300 concubines like King Salomon.

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  • Sivart007
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:41pm

    Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
    Isaiah 5:20

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    • Uncurable wound
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:11pm

      Amen brother,Thats why especially now we must walk by faith and not by sight.
      Peace to you…

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  • This_Individual
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:40pm

    The argument against is based soley on religion. Due to the fact that we are still a secular nation, this issue shouldn’t be allowed to surface in any legislature.

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    • Elena2010
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:39pm

      It’s also a public health issue. Promiscuity among homosexuals is higher than among heterosexuals, which in our current culture is high enough. Promiscuity breeds sexually transmitted diseases like HIV/AIDS, Hep B, HPV, syphilis, etc., and fosters other nasties like TB, viral pneumonia, and other communicable diseases.

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    • LukeFridenmakerSpokaneWA
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:15pm

      @This_Individual. Nice try. We are not a “secular” state. This country was conceived of and fought for by a group of individuals who largely proclaimed a belief in their Creator and an adherence to Judeo-Christian fundamentals. Sorry, can’t let you put that out in the public forum without being directly confronted.
      Peace

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:58pm

      LUKE, Does that mean the nation that I love, defended, and continue to defend,will not recognize my family because we are not of a Judeo/Christian faith? I venture to say no, if I may. Unless there is something I neglected to read in our constitution, it does not include the Christian Bible, in any form.
      I contend that the basic Judeo/Christian beliefs expressed by those who gave their lives founding this nation are universal in nature to anyone who just wants to raise their family in peace, without government interference. It’s true, our founding fathers were of the Judeo/Christian persuasion, but did they intend for all to be free or just those who follow a certain faith? Many Blessings.

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    • jedi.kep
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 5:34pm

      No. There is a purely secular argument against homosexuality as well, but no one bothers to look at that, quote facts about it, or even bother to care so long as the liberal way of life is exalted.

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  • Drum Man
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:37pm

    Hmmmmm…. Bammy’s state… No morals. Yep. That sounds about right.

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  • KickinBack
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:36pm

    Well said!

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  • Centralsville
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:36pm

    People going to these liberal churches need to quit pretending to be Chrisians and start their own religion with their own new Bible. What good is the Bible to you if you don’t believe what it says.

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    • Bellane
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:55pm

      “What good is the Bible to you if you don’t believe what it says.” Good question Centralsville. An immoral compass written into a ‘bible’ is a lost cause. 50 years ago, in a college class (IL) I was taught the phrase….’if it feels good, do it!’ And today, instant gratification is the law of those in power — No longer can we live and let live. Christians remind the left, and all of us, that Jesus Christ will be reckoned with! Jesus is the way, the truth of life!

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    • Elena2010
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:35pm

      They did — it’s called the Metropolitan Community Church.

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    • AKMIIKEUS
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:25pm

      I find it funny how the Right decides what versus to follow and what not to follow in the bible.

      “If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.”

      I don‘t think I’ve ever heard of the Right in this country stoning people or putting people to death because of adultery.

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    • Concerned_American
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:50pm

      @AKMIIKEUS

      Ohhh, how you and those like you love to cherry pick certain verses. To bring up such a quote, you must seem to forget that pesky little thing Jesus said, “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first” (John 8:7)

      This was in direct response to the scribes and Pharisees who brought a woman to him who said that she had been caught in the very act of adultery and that Moses commanded in the law to stone such people.

      You pull things out of the Old Testament either purposefully or through ignorance without realizing that once God sent Jesus to save us of our sins, things changed. “For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change in the law” (Hebrews 7:12). This was referring to the priesthood going from the Levites to now Jesus Christ. It‘s also why animal sacrifices aren’t needed any longer because Jesus is the ultimate sacrifice.

      So don‘t pretend to know what you are talking about when it comes to this because apparently you don’t. Have a wonderful day. :)

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  • stopthis
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:34pm

    This is crazy. The New World Order is here. And I’m sick. This is about reducing the population and integerity of America. The Obama/Socialist army will have less to kill off. Remember research more: FEMA camp, martial law.
    More chaos to cause martial law.
    Again scary everyday. Everyday I cannot believe my eyes and hears.

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    • Nobamazone
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:48pm

      seems like it is happening faster and faster every day too! Like the snowball down the hill, moral depravity is getting faster and larger by the day.

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    • GaGirl35
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:50pm

      It is here….think about the tainted vegtables and where they are….in Europe hmmmm….Japan having a leak in their nuclear power plant…..yeah, okay and now the government want us to “eat more vegtables” e-coli, I am thinking more like nuclear waste…..the waste was carried up through the rain and carried out over the crops. God was most definitely right, we have destroyed this world. Hold onto your faith and pray…..people aren’t evil naturally, but they have been taught it….please open your eyes everyone. I don‘t think it’s too late yet.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on June 3, 2011 at 2:14am

      Reducing the population? So you think what, that if people are allowed to marry the same sex they will turn gay just to not have children? It seems to me the only very slight reduction in population growth would be from gay people not marrying the opposite sex and having children so they can pretend to be straight, and that was never a good thing.

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  • bellasbrat
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:34pm

    “We are showing the world that the people of Illinois believe in equality for all.”

    ******************************
    They are showing the world that the state of Illinois has no moral compass.

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:49pm

      Morality is not soley a Christian virtue.

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    • Elena2010
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:34pm

      @ Individual — No, it’s not. It’s generically Biblical in nature, insofar as the Western mindset has been shaped.

      On the other hand, nature itself tends to reject homosexuality. No very PC, I know, but reasonably factual. When you see male animals hump one another, it’s not for pleasure; it’s for territory or females. When mares try to hump in a pasture, it’s for lack of a stallion. Put one out there w/the girls as see them line up to get things taken care of. Even among bonobos, who have what we’d call casual sex, do not practice homosexuality.

      Nature being fallen does produce “oops” offspring. Accidents happen, and there may be some homosexuals who have that biology. A professor once told our class that his test is to ask how long has the suspected homosexual known. If the person answers “always” then it‘s a nature’s accident. If the person can point to an event or series of events or a sense of growing into the pattern of homosexual behavior, then they have issues that can be treated. Once treated, they can resume a normal heterosexual life.

      Even so, homosexuals only make up 2-3 percent of the population. Given the noise they make, you’d think we were talking 50 percent!

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:06pm

      “They are showing the world that the state of Illinois has no moral compass.”

      Treating all citizens with the same respect is moral, its the holier than thou Christian that are acting against their book of fables (there was in it about judging others).

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  • vennoye
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:32pm

    Things have been pretty clear on the morality of this for a long time……..don‘t see that anything has changed except people’s delusions.

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    • MarketsClear
      Posted on June 3, 2011 at 10:43am

      Things have been pretty clear on the morality of this for a long time……..don‘t see that anything has changed except people’s delusions.

      Logical fallacy: appeal to tradition. Using that logic, women should never have been given equal rights to men and should still be considered chattel, slavery would be completely justified by long history of being considered moral. Arguments must always be evaluated based on their logical consistency and validity, not upon conclusions people in the past made. I have not heard an argument against gay marriage that is not based in religion, logical fallacy, or a lack of understanding of the difference between religious and civil marriage.

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  • KickinBack
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:29pm

    It seems the libbys would like the churches to look at their doctrines the same way they look at the Constitution, as a living entity, always “evolving” with the times.

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  • quizibo
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:28pm

    Im glad America is finally coming to their senses on Gay Marriages.

    quizibo  
    • Mannax
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:32pm

      The troll is strong with this one. You are trying to hard bud.

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    • 1stAmendment
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:39pm

      Noah had to built an ark when the world was flooded, because of a gay tolerant world!

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    • Showtime
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:59pm

      You make no sense to me. You must be a troll.

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    • RightUnite
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:01pm

      Sure… Those gay marriages will go over real well with the muslims, huh??? They’ll be able to kill two birds with one stone, nice, huh??

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    • Uncurable wound
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:34pm

      mannax-thanks ROFL!!

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    • Bhaub
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:48pm

      RightUnite
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:01pm

      Sure… Those gay marriages will go over real well with the muslims, huh??? They’ll be able to kill two birds with one stone, nice, huh??
      ————————

      Good point. We should follow the lead of Muslims and do what they think is right! Excellent point, RightUnite. Time for less freedom, America! YEE-HAW!

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    • Rayblue
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:59pm

      Gay marriage is a retainage of childhood fantasies. Lack of proper guidance is a factor also.
      It’s just dress up time for children who never grew up and probably are too far gone to ever achieve adulthood. They’re just media whores looking for their picture in the Chicago Free Press.

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    • avenger
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 6:20pm

      wtf…this is totally contrary to NATURAL LAW,not religion ! every species mates for one reason only and that is to procreate and strengthen the species.what part of stupid escapes you people,there is nor reason for your marriage other than recreational sex ! there is no gay species in nature…..

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    • MarketsClear
      Posted on June 3, 2011 at 10:32am

      @ Avenger

      Natural law has nothing to do with biology! Natural law analyzes man’s actions “in the state of nature” when he is unimpeded by government. In the state of nature anyone can enter into the contract of civil marriage, regardless of gender, and they can call it whatever they want. Therefore for government to deny individuals the right to freely enter into contract is a violation of natural law.The real natural rights argument is that government should have no voice in the definition of marriage, nor should it attempt to social engineer by handing out certain privileges or penalties to people who are married.

      Also, if civil marriage were about procreation, infertile couples and couples who choose not to procreate must not be considered married. Your definition of marriage is based on a collectivist opinion on the welfare of the group instead of the rights of the individual. Do not sully natural rights philosophy by pretending it has anything to do with utilitarianism, biology, or collectivism.

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  • mikee1
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:27pm

    The People of Illinois believe in Sodomy in an outside of Politics. Too bad they have to give it to all the rest of us in the behind.

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    • paciF1ST
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:34pm

      @MIKEE1, you mean the people of Chicagoland.

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    • LetUsReason
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:39pm

      Lutherans, Methodists, Episcopalians….why won’t these churches stick to truth and scripture and quit trying to merge in with corrupt, modern thought and practice?

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:40pm

      Could someone please explain why gays feel the need to get married?

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    • MikeDiesel
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:42pm

      What a shame. The Great Apostasy is upon us. I would encourage anyone who is affiliated with a denomination that condones homosexuality–especially among it’s pastors and elders!–to disassociate immediately, and find a church that actually teaches scripture, not just what people’s itching ears want to hear.

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    • HillBillySam1
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:44pm

      If you are going to a church, or belong to a denomination that promotes, encourages, or sanctions gay marriage and civil unions, then you are NOT a Christian…….“Christian” means to be “Christ-like”…..love the sinner but hate the sin……and do not allow sin to be accepted over God’s word…..

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    • HillBillySam1
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:47pm

      @ANNONYMOUS
      It’s not about “equality”….it’s about glorifying their lifestyle…..the same reason that they want to teach (glorify) the roles of homosexuals in History classes in California schools……

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    • Gold Coin & Economic News
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:50pm

      Homosexual marriage will never be recognized by God.

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    • forestnomad
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:53pm

      END TIMES! *handwringing* *bibleclutching*

      Them gays are going to cause apocalypse! Next thing you know people will be marrying animals and my children will be turned to homosexuals because ALL of society is promoting the gay lifestyle and foisting it upon the minority heterosexuals – who are the real victims here!

      Did I get all of the culture-warrior talking points correct?

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    • LaidBackTaps
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:56pm

      I Live in Illinois And I am Proud To Say My Baptist Church Separated From They Gay Loving Churches. Keep Morals First People. I Love These People Like My Brother Just As Jesus Says But I wont Be Forced In My Church To Accept What They Practice! Long Live The Lord Jesus Christ!

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    • LaidBackTaps
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:57pm

      Sorry for misspelled words =)

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    • independentvoteril
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:59pm

      I’m from IL .. and GLEN wonders WHY people who beleive in the word of GOD DON’T go to CHURCH?? IF they aren‘t promoting CIVIL UNIONS of gay people they are telling us that we are mean because we don’t support ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT.. THIS STATE IS WHACKED..IF housing prices ever go up I’M OUTTA HERE.. Thing is the GAY population isn’t even that big here and most are on the NORTH side of CHICAGO.. fact is MOST of the gay’s AND illegals are in CHICAGO.. It’s like a pool of POLITICAL and SOCIAL corruption there …you would NOT beleive it that is why my husband and I MOVED OUT.. It‘s sad you can’t even go to the forest perserves in COOK county without some gay guy making a pass at your husband if they see you when you take your dogs there.. I thought it was FUNNY but my husband refused to go to the forest preserves till we moved.. LOL..

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    • Uncurable wound
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:59pm

      Because of this,God gave them over to SHAMEFUL lusts.Even their women exchanged natural relations forUNNATURAL ones.In the same way men also abandoned natural relations with WOMEN and were inflamed with LUST for one another.Men committed indecent acts with other men and recieved in themselves the due penalty for their PERVERSION.Furthermore,since they did not think it worthwhile to RETAIN the knowledge of God,he gave them over to a depraved mind,to do what ought not to be done.
      Therefore God gave them over in their sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.They exchanged the TRUTH og God for a lie and worshiped and SERVED CREATED things rather than the Creator-who is forever praised amen.They have become filled with every kind of wickedness,EVIL,GREED,and DEPRAVITY.They are full of envy,murder,strife,deceit,and malice.They are gossips,slanderers,Godhaters,insolent,arrogant,and boastful;they invent ways of doing evil;they disobey their parents;they are senseless,FAITHLESS,heartless,ruthless.Although they know Gods RIGHTEOUS decree that those who do such things deserve DEATH,they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
      Romans 1. read the rest for yourself.
      Im not sure what book this quote clergy is using-maybe they should count money tithes less and read the BIBLE more.
      For me and my house we follow the lord,and we support ISRAEL!

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:14pm

      Looks like hte bible thumpers are getting got under the collar. If God has such a problem with gays, why does he keep creating more?

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:15pm

      LetUsReason WROTE:

      Lutherans, Methodists, Episcopalians….why won’t these churches stick to truth and scripture and quit trying to merge in with corrupt, modern thought and practice?

      @Letusreason

      Communist goals #26 & #27

      45 Communist goals (Congressional Record – 1963)

      http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:18pm

      encinom
      God doesn’t create homosexuals. These men and woman made their own CHOICES. The greater mystery to me is why God created you.

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    • Exrepublisheep
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:25pm

      This is destined to happen. In the end a world-order church will oppose Jesus and his followers.

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    • Elena2010
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:25pm

      @forestnomad – not even close. What we Christian object to is having our faith denigrated by those who so obviously do not follow it. We do not appreciate homosexuals calling themselves by our name and not living in accordance w/the Biblical imperative of a holy life. We equally do not like it when others of notorious sin who refuse to repent take our name in the same vein.

      If you wish to be saved by Christ’s atoning Blood, then repent and live as if you really meant it. Otherwise, admit you are a pagan and have no intention of living like Christ.

      This does not mean that Christians do not love those who are outside the Name of Jesus; rather, it means we pray for them and try meeting their needs. There are devoted Christians, living holy lives themselves, working w/HIV/AIDS patients who contracted their disease because of lifestyle choices. Ancient Christians did the same for the lepers of their day. To love God in Christ, means that His love spills over into the world for all to see. Witness: Mather Theresa!

      Love also says “no.” In this case, “no” to a lifestyle that does great harm to its practitioners. To homosexuals who were born that way — live celibate lives that are pleasing to God and to yourself in the end.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:27pm

      If this doesn’t prove that churches are becoming nothing more than a racket to make tax free dollars nothing does. I gave up on church along time ago I realized that it was nothing but an industry to collect money from people who believe in Christ. Couple that with churches promoting socialist governmental reform via social justice and we have a big problem with religion. That needs to be adresses for if they want to influence elections and policy they need to relinquish their tax exempt status.

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:27pm

      when is it time to leave your church…..NOW!…I’m just wondering what translation of the bible are these churches reading?…

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    • johnos69
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:34pm

      We are having that issue at my church as we speak. Our church is gonna stand their ground. That is this. If you are of homosexual interest you can be a member of the church. If you choose to be a Deacon, Elder or Pastor that is not permissible at this church. If a church wants to preach with gays knock yourself out. Stop shoving your sexuality down everyones collective throats.

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:41pm

      First off, I don’t know why government needs to be involved in marriage at all.
      Government makes it nothing more than a contract between two people, in which case it IS discrimination to refuse that right to two people because of their gender.
      The government adds WHAT to marriage? Screening out blood relatives? I don’t think they actually do that.
      Blood tests? I think that is over with, too. Oh, we get tax deductions? Most deductions are wrong because they are just “social engineering.” This is too. But, we now see that children are no longer the product of marriage – WAY TOO MANY children are born to single parents.
      So, why don’t we get government OUT of the marriage business?

      I don’t want anyone telling MY church what to do or how to practice my religion.

      However, if some other church believes gays should marry, it is none of my business.

      If it neither breaks my leg, nor picks my pocket, what business is it of mine??? -Thomas Jefferson

      FREEDOM ROCKS!!!

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    • OneFootRandy
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:41pm

      @Forestnomad, Marriage is a religious institution, and as such is measured in religious terms. Homosexual conduct is stated as sin over and over again both in old and new testimant. The real issue has always been, why in the world does government have ANYTHING to do with marriage?

      As for these false purveyors of ministry, they are judged in the end by God, he has spoken against such people in scripture often and I think it does not bode well for them.

      I assume you dont actually care about what people of faith think and are just trying to be clever with your stereotypical attack, but in the off chance you want to engage people who dont think the same way you do try researching the topic to understand why people react the way they do to the mainstreaming of sin.

      @Encinom, God doesnt make homosexuals, nice try. He doesnt make adulterers, or fornicators either. All those activities are sexual sin, sinful nature being fullfilled instead of denied.

      None of us can avoid being sinners, the best we can do is deny our sin, accept Christ to save us from the sin that defeats us, and love one another, as commanded by our Lord.

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    • Bhaub
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:46pm

      Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:40pm

      Could someone please explain why gays feel the need to get married?

      ———————————-

      The same reason straight people do. Love, companionship, loyalty, and all the wonderful benefits provided to married couples. That seems like a pretty simple answer and a very valid argument for gay marriage. :)

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    • USAMEDIC3008
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:51pm

      ENCINOM
      GONZO is right
      God gives freedom its called Free Will
      You can be smart OR stupid.
      The sucker or suckee Your choice

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    • Untameable-kate
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:12pm

      Bhaub
      The same reason straight people do. Love, companionship, loyalty, and all the wonderful benefits provided to married couples. That seems like a pretty simple answer and a very valid argument for gay marriage. :)

      ___________________

      It goes against what we are taught in the Bible. You can have all the love and whatnot you want in your perverted ways, but don’t drag the Christian faith into this perversion. Why does it have to be a religious thing? Why can’t it just be a legal thing leaving religion out of it?

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    • AKMIIKEUS
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:15pm

      Could someone please explain why straight people feel the need to get married?

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    • Marylou7
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:22pm

      @LetUsReason
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:39pm
      Lutherans, Methodists, Episcopalians….why won’t these churches stick to truth and scripture and quit trying to merge in with corrupt, modern thought and practice?

      ____________________

      You can’t be a church and believe in living in sin…that just isn’t how it works. Who needs a church if sin is A-okay?? This is what the me, me, me mentality causes.

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    • 101
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:25pm

      Illinois believe in Sodomy…thats just fricken SICK!

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    • Melvin Spittle
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:45pm

      How can they call themselves Christians if they disregard the Word of God? I do not judge them; God does. His judgement is harsh for those that lead His flock astray.

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    • joanct
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:52pm

      @ANONYMOUS T. IRRELEVANT
      Could someone please explain why gays feel the need to get married?

      Everyone knows that since the beginning of time couples got married to provide nurturing and shelter to the children created out of the sexual union between a……….uh, hmmmm, uh……..

      You know what, you really are a bigot and a homophobe. Probably a big fat racist, too!

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    • avenger
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 5:42pm

      it is amazing that so called smart people never study ancient history..this was part of the debauchery that killed the roman empire….

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    • ILUVAMERICA
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 6:34pm

      Big O’s state
      I wonder if the story about the Big O being the G word is true??????

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    • riseandshine
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 6:38pm

      Gay clergy…lol

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    • six6six
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 8:04pm

      They should change the name of this website to “homophobia central”.

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    • jhaydeng
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 8:58pm

      Illinois has a new bill called Preparation H!

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    • stuckinhellinois
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 9:44pm

      Hey Mikee, not everyone in Illinois is a lost cause. My family would be out of here in a shot if we weren’t being held hostage by the housing market. This state gets worse and worse everyday, and the few sane ones left are doing their best to swim against the tide of madness.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on June 3, 2011 at 12:00am

      Those who believe in Jesus Christ, study his word and keep the commandments retain your faith. Days as these are foretold in God’s word. Wolves in sheep clothing we know would come. Leave these viper nests. Rebuke them in Christ’s name and continue shining the light of Christ for all to see. Reach out to your brothers/sisters in these viper nests and share God’s truths around the perverted teachings being told. Love them, pray for them and serve them thru God’s word with all your ability. Love conquers evil. 

      Keep your faith in Jesus and keep God’s commandments. Love your neighbor but do not partake in his evil deeds. Stay safe!

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    • silentwatcher
      Posted on June 3, 2011 at 1:34am

      First and foremost……it’s not a question of legality. Just because you can,,,doesn’t mean you should.

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    • HenryCameron
      Posted on June 3, 2011 at 4:10pm

      @ Anonymous T. Irrelevant: Why do straight couples who cannot have or refuse to have children feel the need to get married?

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    • imreddog
      Posted on June 4, 2011 at 12:15am

      As they were leaving, one was overheard saying: “Hey, I’ve got a good idea, why don’t we go home and roll around in some human feces? Would you like to crap in my face?”

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    • imreddog
      Posted on June 4, 2011 at 12:22am

      There is nothing “gay” about homos! They are filthy, disease carrying, perverts.
      1) Filthy because they roll around in human feces.
      2) Disease carrying because human feces carrys a multitude of diseases.
      3) Perverts because homosexuallity is a perversion.
      Did someone say love the sinner but hate the sin? You are what you do! If you love the sinner, then you love the sin. Homosexuallity is a choice, not an affliction. It is an abomination to God. Nuff said!

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    • G.W. Dobbs
      Posted on June 4, 2011 at 7:26am

      Homosexuality is an abomination to God. These homosexual Sinners will burn in Hell. There will be added pain for “Ministers” who do not obey the Bible and allow God’s Name to be associated with EVIL.

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