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Incredible New Video: See the 9/11 Attacks From an NYPD Chopper

It’s not “home video” as much as “homeland video.”

Shocking, newly-released NYPD video shows the terrorist attacks of 9/11 as seen from a police helicopter. The 17-minute video was captured from high above Lower Manhattan and features the raw reaction of officers within the helicopter cabin.

“I’m not sure I can do it justice, except to say that it‘s among the most transfixing 17 minutes of video I’ve ever seen,” Gawker’s Max Read writes.

According to that site, the clip was originally obtained by the National Institute of Standards and Technology under the Freedom of Information Act for its 9/11 investigation. The video was then anonymously sent to the “secret-sharing” site Cryptome:


The video’s YouTube description tells more:

The chopper sound at the spliced end may be a carry over from a longer video. This video was a part of material provided by NYPD to NIST for the WTC investigation. Previous releases of NYPD material consist of a variety of packages, with redundancies, different namings and overlaps. To answer FOIA requests NIST digs through a vast collection to chop out a requested piece.

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  • mike_trivisonno
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:15am

    Not “terrorists”, not “extremists”, not “misunderstanders”, not “a tiny minority”, not “radicalized”.

    9/11 was a Jihad attack carried out by muslims in an effort to force the submission of the American people to their deity, Allah.

    Nothing radical about it. It is Jihad.

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    • GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 11:55am

      If cavemen w/ box cutters and a prayer to allah overcame the most advanced defense system in the world AND the laws of physics, maybe we should scrap norad and convert to Islam.

      (I was trying to make a more absurd statement that the drival I just read)

       
    • just another minuteman
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 2:55pm

      Mr. Beck,
      i haven’t forgotten.

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    • dr_funk
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 11:02pm

      Exactly. Allah’s calling for Muslims is to dominate the world with Islamic law. The method for doing this is Jihad. The only guarantee of salvation for Muslims is to die a martyr, meaning to die while waging Jihad.

      Islam was founded by a 7th century warlord. When you take the behavior of a 7th century warlord’s cult, and transport it into the modern era, you get terrorism.

      See “Islam: What the West Needs to Know”

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    • KevRo65
      Posted on March 10, 2011 at 11:45pm

      Not “terrorists”, not “extremists”, not “misunderstanders”, not “a tiny minority”, not “radicalized”.

      9/11 was a Jihad attack carried out by muslims in an effort to force the submission of the American people to their deity, Allah.

      Nothing radical about it. It is Jihad.
      Hmmm…
      Not really sure what you’re trying to say… Sounds like you think its Islam who is to blame, who is radical, who are terrorists, who want America and the World to Submit to their view of Religion… period and we need to wake up to that reality. Is that what you are saying?
      Sure Sounds like that might be what you’re saying.

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  • MaggieRose
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:14am

    Never surrender, never falter, never forget!
    Those that go to war against the United States of America have chosen their own destruction…

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  • RIGHTNOTLEFT
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:12am

    God bless America!!!!!

    We need it now more than ever!

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  • Patriot
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:10am

    Amazing! I wish the crybabies of today would sit back and try to remember the unity this country felt in the days following this. I cannot believe that Americans who lived though this have already been manipulated to stick their heads back into that sand hole that they were temporarily pulled from. Please take the time to check out this video of what has become of unity. It shows one guy, ME, trying to engage in real conversation. While there are some takers, pay close attention to the mob. This is inside the Wisconsin state capitol building last Friday.

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 10:26am

      @PATRIOT:

      Amazing video guy! Love the guy at the end “God Bless America”…Thank you for making this and showing the public that not all were in complete agreement with the unions…I commend the two younger guys who stepped forward…I found that interesting…of course, they have the “least” invested in the unions…right? You actually spent the night there? You are a brave guy! Did you ever feel that you were in any kind of danger of retaliation from some?

      AzDebi  
    • UlyssesP
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 3:58pm

      Right on.
      One question and it is not a joke. Seriously, what did it smell like in there (WI Assembly building)? Was there a lot of patchouli oil scent? No kidding.

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  • HillKid8
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:08am

    Now lets build a mosk on the same spot. Not! Don’t let it happen.

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  • The Infidel Alliance
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:07am

    We must understand that 9/11 wasn‘t an ’act of terror’, but rather an Islamic Blitzkreig designed to destroy our economic, military and political centers. It was nothing less than a major offensive in

    THE ISLAMIC WORLD WAR

    Inspired by Allah, Mandated by Muhammed and commanded in the Koran and the Islamic holy books:
    “Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…” – Koran (4:76)

    Allah’s Apostle Muhammed said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’” – Bukhari (8:387)

    Allah’s Apostle Muhammed said “I have been made victorious with terror” – Bukhari (52:220)

    COULD IT BE ANY MORE CRYSTAL CLEAR???

    ~ The Infidel Alliance

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    • pachyderm
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 10:29am

      Absolutely correct, Mr. Alliance.

      And don’t forget this one:

      And thou shalt consume all the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: neither shalt thou serve their gods; for that will be a snare unto thee. – Deuteronomy 7:16

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  • onegodinkansas
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 8:58am

    Great timing this week of Peter King’s hearings on radical Islam.

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    • crackerone
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 11:49am

      They should open the hearings with this footage and others like it! Better yet, wake Obama up every morning at 3 AM and make him watch this footage!

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  • Yes a ConsvNY Mother
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 8:58am

    I, for one NEVER, EVER need to be reminded. That one, split, second decision I made while at GCS that morning NOT to go to a computer course on Church Street I am certain saved me. I cannot watch the entire video as the memories are always in front of my mine. There is not a day that goes by I don’t think about it. Just this morning something reminded me that it’s going to be 10 years this coming September!! There will be NEVER enough time that goes by to make those wounds not raw. They are still as raw as they were on that evil, evil day. God Bless all those who perished. May their souls rest in peace.

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  • daddy warbucks
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 8:54am

    WTC Bldg Supt, a Bush relation, at the time & a ‘group of Israeli artists’ had access to different parts of the WTC when sections were ‘closed’ for ‘maintenance’
    Were US /Israeli intel following -enabling the Islamists long before 911 & knew who, how & when they were to do it? WTC mined ahead of time to make sure the ‘event’ was catastrophic enough so American’s would support the ‘War on Terror’. US jets scrambled out to sea to get them out of way?

    Google: past false flag. Learn/ share before kill switch
    Demand answers

    Explain how bldg 7 (9/11) came down along with ‘so many’ 1st responders comments that were there and is all over the web with videos

    GOOGLE BUILDING 7 – WATCH IT FOR YOURSELF ! >NO JET FUEL, NO DEBRIS HIT IT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT WAS ‘IN’ IT?

    Unless 911 is re-investigated, this will continue

     
    • MaggieRose
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:21am

      yes… PEOPLE were in it… innocent people under attack for no other reason than going to work, staying at the hotel, conducting business in a FREE SOCIETY. Take your moronic 9/11 conspiracy BS and shove it, please. We’re sick to death of hearing about it.

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    • STATE IRON
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:29am

      Love these conspiracy tools. Most are 20somethings whose brains weren’t even fully formed on that day. Just another self-hating American who believes America is evil, the U.S. government is some monolithic evil entity and that it is responsible for everything bad in the world.

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 10:05am

      @MaggieRos:
      “yes… PEOPLE were in it…”
      ________________
      Maggie…I don’t believe there were any victims from Bldg 7…someone please correct me if I’m wrong on this…

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  • barrycooper
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 8:51am

    I decided last year that Tower 7 could not have come down without explosives. I hypothesize that the actual target of United 93 was Tower 7. There is absolutely no reason to suppose that the plan did not include the use BOTH of planes and explosives. The plan need not have involved George Bush, and I don’t think it did.

    But if you evaluate the actual evidence, it is IMPOSSIBLE to believe that a 47 story building was brought down by burning furniture, which is very literally what the official committee concluded. They are literally claiming that burning furniture and curtains melted steel girders such that the building imploded quickly and efficiently.

    I deal with this issue here: http://moderatesunited.blogspot.com/2010/10/plausible-911-conspiracy-theory.html

    I spend little time worrying about this, since there is nothing I can do. One could argue that the bombs, too, were planted by Muslims. There is no telling in what direction the conspiracy goes. But the standard account simply is untenable in my view, which I argue there.

     
    • jhonjhonson1
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:02am

      you’re a moron

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    • barrycooper
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:10am

      Do we go with the three word post–four, if we count “you’re” as one word–or the one which takes considerable time and effort to gather facts and draw logical conclusions?

      I’m quite bright. You simply have not evaluated the entirety of the facts. Do you accept the “burning draperies” explanation of the Tower 7 collapse? That is the official version. It is what the committee appointed to look into it concluded.

      I‘m quire sure the reality is that you don’t know what you don’t know, and don’t care to think about it.

       
    • MaggieRose
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:17am

      ditto

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    • STATE IRON
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:22am

      No, you’re not quite bright.

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:42am

      @barrycooper:
      “I decided last year that Tower 7 could not have come down without explosives…The plan need not have involved George Bush, and I don’t think it did. But if you evaluate the actual evidence, it is IMPOSSIBLE to believe that a 47 story building was brought down by burning furniture, which is very literally what the official committee concluded… They are literally claiming that burning furniture and curtains melted steel girders such that the building imploded quickly and efficiently…”
      ____________
      I completely agree with you Barry…Tower 7 fell at what time? Like, 5:30 that afternoon? Why? I saw the video taken up until it fell…and it fell uniformly…something rarely seen in anything that is not brought down intentionally…

      Do I believe that our government was in on the 9/11 attack itself? Absolutely NOT, however, what I think is completely believable is that that building was the home of a lot of top secret information and departments…(can’t name them all now but a lot had to do with investigative work related to the S.E.C., etc.)…Anyhow, why is it so hard to believe that many of our “sensitive” buildings all around this country may possibly be “preset” to be brought down in the event of a massive enemy attack?…Does anyone else think that that is a possibility?…That’s what I think happened…I think they “chose” to level the building because there was no way to protect it during the attack and the ensuing chaos! But I DO NOT believe that it came down on it’s own!
      ______________
      I spend little time worrying about this, since there is nothing I can do…
      ______________
      I agree, but we are still free to believe what we want and I’m in with you on this one…their explanations don’t add up!

      AzDebi  
    • barrycooper
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:59am

      Please show me why I’m a moron. I make my case clearly. In my view, the facts of the matter lead irrefutably to the conclusion I drew. If you want to argue otherwise, have at it. You can do it here, you can do it there. I take all comers, Anonymous is enabled, and I don’t filter any comments.

      What I expect is nothing. You already know everything that needs to be known, right? If you don’t know it, then it doesn’t matter, right? Arrogance is a mistake in the future. If you don’t understand that, it doesn’t surprise me.

      As far as prerigging buildings to blow, I never dismiss anything outright, but that seems unlikely to me. What I think happened is that all three buildings were blown. The plan was to fly the planes into the buildings, get a lot of cameras on the burning New York skyline, and then blow them one after the other. They got two, but had problems with 7, since it had no plausible reason to be collapsing, since no plane flew into it. Yet, explosions were reported by many people, including some top level New York City public officials, who were actually trapped on a stairwell by an explosion that happened BEFORE the first tower collapsed. Their testimony is on YouTube.

      What I think was eventually decided, though, was that Tower 7 had to come down since it had too much evidence of bomb planting, so they blew it. The committee that investigated it came to the conclusion that burning drapes caused 8 or so years later simply because they lacked the courage to consider the alternative.

      To be clear, in the post I discuss all the materials that would have been in the office building, everything that could have burned. I have done work in many of them, and know them from the underflooring to the deck. Virtually everything in any modern skyscraper is Class 1/A fire rated. That means that even if you put flames into an office, nothing would burn for very long, or very hot, and certainly not hot enough to melt enough asbestos-treated steel girders to collapse a 47 story building at the speed of gravity.

       
    • MontanaRob
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 10:28am

      I am quite sure that Al Qaeda opporatives were behind the plane attack, there is more than sufficient evidence for that conclusion.

      Tower 7 on the other hand, truly makes one wonder. There are way too many oddities there, and based on what was in the building and the way it went down. I won’t claim to know the answer on that one but that is what bothers me…too many questions.

      Also, why did the BBC report that the building had collapsed 30 minutes prior to the actual collapse and with the structure standing in plain view behind the reporter.

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    • STICK2URGUNS
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 10:30am

      You are right. These buildings did come down because they were bombed….Two bombs, full of jet fuel, moving at a speed over 300 MPH weighing several hundreds of tons. I don’t know if you are an engineer or not but that is an incredible amount of energy for a relatively lightweight structure to absorb. Think of it as a house of cards or a game of pick up sticks…You pull a few cards or sticks out somewhere approximately in the center of the structure and all it takes from there is its own weight to finish the job off. There has been extensive studies done on this and several computer models to simulate the disaster.Why make more out of it than it was? I don’t think you are a moron like one of the other comments but I do think you are making something much more complicated than it really is.

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    • gunkgy
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 10:33am

      Barry,

      There are reports that the basement of #7 had thousands of gallons of diesel for the emergency generators. Also the side of the building you can’t see from the film was heavly damaged from the falling towers. The basement exposed to all that heat, the weight of all those floors, the steel beams gave way.

      Oh wait, I just remembered the quote from Rosey O’donnel ( after all she knows everything). She made the statement, “it would be the first time in history that fire ever melted steel”

      How in the heck do they melt it to begin with ? Wishful thinking.

      Wake up truthers, learn physics.

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    • MontanaRob
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 10:50am

      To make it clear, I don’t believe the twin towers were blown. The weight of the upper structure finally overcoming the support that had eroded below was more thansufficient to trigger a reaction. Gravity won…as it always does eventually. The explosive noise would be created by the snapping of the steel girders and the concussive explosion of the concrete skin and floors.

      It is Tower 7 that does bother me, damage was there but far to many experts refuse to claim that it was sufficient to bring down the building. There were also too many witnesses to strange goings on near the building and possibly below it…I’m just saying. I don’t implicate the Bush Administration or anyone in particular, but it was truly convenient for quite a number of people and organizations for that structure to go.

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    • VRW Conspirator
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 10:54am

      @Gunk

      sorry Barry…Gunk is right….physics tells the story….the fuel in the basement…the damage from the back side not visible….and the fact that all the WTC area are connected by an underground mall that interconnects all the buildings….the fires burned in the subway and basement tunnels under WTC for months after the collapse….what do you think it was like in those tunnels as the pressure of the gases, the heat, and the shockwave were all forced through that underground mall network…? Archimedes and Bernoulli tell the outcome of that event…..high school physics….
      rapid compression with rapid expansion = explosive forces…
      Building 7 ‘s foundation was destroyed….it was just luck that the building stayed standing for 8 hours after the Towers came down…

      as for sighting YouTube video as evidence…get a better source…
      and i believe someone mentioned it….notice how most of the 911 truthers.. excpet Van Jones that is… are all 20 something college students NOW….so they were like what…10-13 when the attacks happened….probably faced with being raised by America hating ultra liberal socialist ex-hippie parents that cheered when they saw the oppressed Muslims rise up against the evil American imperialist machine and the 2000 election usurper Bush…

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    • DarKangelAZRAEL
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 10:56am

      Dear Mr. Cooper,

      The OFFICIAL stories for some reason have never been updated with later findings. I like to refer to this one here and pay close attention to their resources list at the end. Many of the original people quoted or included in the “official” conspiracy theories are quoted here as being angry they were taken out of context or never asked to reiterate or give testimony to their very short quotes that many theories are built on.. http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/1227842

      I do not doubt you are bright but there is a problem with bright people pulling the wool over their own eyes for constantly mulling over such things. The findings of many is that the side facing the Twin Towers took significant damage to steel reinforced pylons in ALMOST a pyramid shape 3D shape biting into the building side facing the towers and that the heat of the fires then did the rest. Anyhow, for the longest time my thoughts were, “could a group of terrorists have been working with the ON GROUND LEVEL as well?”, but I have grown away from that. And the thermite junk you hear is all hogwash as well. I hope this helps. Thanks and take care.

      God bless.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 11:30am

      The physical egeneering involved in collapsing tower 7 is one matter. That is not the relevant debate to be had IMHO. The himn resource engeneering in maintain the conspiracy necessary to do this and co-ordinate it with the attack on the twin towers is staggering it the odds against it being possible. Conspiracies like that only “work” in fiction. In real life the number of human factors that have to be co-ordinate and CONTROLLED to keep them silent and functional is too much for any bureacracy or organization. A conspiracy of a much lesser degree would still require the fear of massive state punishment to keep everyone invoved in line. this would require a police state, which we don’t have. Proposing the existence of an INVISIBLE police state could not solve the problem, for a police state that is not visible could not create the fear to coerce obedience. Without fear as an organizing motivator the conspirators must be motivated by higher callings, duty to law or the fanaticism of a Cause. The first of those would not allow the conspiracy in the first place and the second would have to conceal the existence of this band of fanatics within the government.

      The idea that the action could be done by paid mercenaries or something like that is even more preposterous because such crimi9nals are impossible to reliably control, as they are out for self-interst, and the likelyhood that one of them will fink out the plan for persoanl profit is too high for the venture ever to be risked.

      Thus, 911 conspracies, when you work out the human mechanics require more intricacy and co-ordination than is possible to conceal in any human endeavor..

      It simply isn’t HUMANLY possible.

      The same applies to the JFK assasination.

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    • DarKangelAZRAEL
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 11:37am

      @Isles,

      That is probably the single best take I have seen on this entire ordeal. Thank you for this!!

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 11:56am

      @VRW Conspirator:
      @Gunk
      “….and the fact that all the WTC area are connected by an underground mall that interconnects all the buildings….the fires burned in the subway and basement tunnels under WTC for months after the collapse….what do you think it was like in those tunnels as the pressure of the gases, the heat, and the shockwave were all forced through that underground mall network…? Archimedes and Bernoulli tell the outcome of that event…..high school physics….Rapid compression with rapid expansion = explosive forces…
      Building 7 ‘s foundation was destroyed….it was just luck that the building stayed standing for 8 hours after the Towers came down…”
      ___________
      Thanks VRW…I didn’t know about the interconnecting tunnel…Interesting

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    • OneofMany
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 1:25pm

      He’s NOT a Moron: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8W-t57xnZg&feature=related

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    • conservativewoman
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 1:52pm

      Whoever thinks these buildings came down through explosives is an idiot, plain and simple!
      My husband worked on buildings like this. He knows how the Twin Towers were built.
      First, the ventilation system has dampers that close so that smoke is not spread. If anyone noticed, the smoke was coming from the upper half where the windows were blown out. If it had been explosives, the lower windows would have been blown out with smoke coming out.
      Second, the building had no interior columns. The only columns were in the parking structure which
      took all the weight and was shared by both towers. They make the same kind of footprint in the buildings in L.A. Once one building falls, it weakens the other buildings sharing the same footprint.
      Third, there are list of things that can tell anyone who knows construction that it WAS NOT explosives that brought these buildings down. Of course, an ignorant person would not ask an expert in high-rise construction, like my husband. They would just believe a weak conspiracy theory to fit their agenda of hate.
      My husband laughs at the ignorance of so many of you truthers out there!

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    • barrycooper
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 2:00pm

      Too many comments to address individually, but I would encourage my detractors to actually read what I wrote. The gas in the basement? The FINAL REPORT rejected that as a possible cause. It rejected structural damage. What it said was that the only explanation they could come up with (other than bombs) was the combustion of “interior furnishings”. I believe that is a direct quote.

      Please don’t interact with the ideas you have stored up on this topic. I took some time and trouble to weave readily available facts with logic, and the conclusion I reached is that what supposedly brought down Tower 7 simply isn’t plausible. This means that some sort of explosives had to be involved, regardless of how implausible the conspiracy behind it would need to be.

      What if Chinese intelligence operatives spent the previous year rigging the building? None of them would come forward, and there would be little physical evidence left.

      I want to be clear: I am not accusing Popular Mechanics of deceptiveness. I am accusing them of cowardice. Not being an engineer, I am willing to accept that planes full of jet fuel brought down Towers 1 and 2. I think most reasonable people can accept this as at least in principle tenable. Hot stuff melts beams under a huge mass of weight, mass collapses. You will note that the post is from last year. From 9/11 until the time I got into the topic last October, I thought all “Truthers” were stupid.

      But consider the phenomenal claim that interior furnishings could cause a collapse of a 47 story building. I work in these buildings all the time. Most everything, including most furniture, carpet, ceiling tiles, walls, wiring, piping, etc. has to be Class A fire rated. Here is a link on that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_spread

      Unless a product has a flame spread index roughly one quarter that of Red Oak, or better, it will not be put into most modern skyscrapers. Here, actually, is a list of common burning temperatures: http://www.tcforensic.com.au/docs/article10.html#1.3

      As I understand it, it takes a flame of roughly 2,000 degrees or more to damage the structural integrity of a flame-retardant treated steel I-Beam. There is nothing in a typical office whose burning could damage AN I-Beam, much less cause a collapse like that seen in Building 7. The thing went straight down. It didn’t hem and haw like the Titanic in the movie. It just went down.

      In my view, the consensus story just doesn’t make sense. Again, I make my case in two places.

       
    • barrycooper
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 2:48pm

      I know physics. My question for the patronizing folks: can you read? I discussed this issue in my post. According to the OFFICIAL REPORT, the entirety of the collapse of Building 7–which was not hit by any planes, for those who remain willfully ignorant of what we are talking about, and by very little debris, again according to the report–can be attributed to the combustion of interior furnishings. How is it you can consider yourselves intelligent when refuting a claim neither I nor Popular Mechanics made?

      What I do in the post is go through all the materials in a tower which COULD burn, and determine that none of them would have come close to the required temperature. This is not rocket science. It is applying common sense to the facts.

      More generally, I’m curious: how many of you are not even aware that THREE skyscrapers collapsed on 9/11, one of which was not hit by anything?

       
    • DarKangelAZRAEL
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 3:32pm

      Mr. Cooper,

      I don’t know if you read the whole thing about WC7 that I posted from Popular Mechanics but here is an exerpt:

      FACT: Many conspiracy theorists point to FEMA’s preliminary report, which said there was relatively light damage to WTC 7 prior to its collapse. With the benefit of more time and resources, NIST researchers now support the working hypothesis that WTC 7 was far more compromised by falling debris than the FEMA report indicated. “The most important thing we found was that there was, in fact, physical damage to the south face of building 7,” NIST’s Sunder tells PM. “On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom—approximately 10 stories—about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out.” NIST also discovered previously undocumented damage to WTC 7′s upper stories and its southwest corner.

      The Article goes on to state that they believe kerosene, which doesn’t burn particularly hot but burns VERY long, Was burning on many floors and the basement for some time. They do not allege ANYTHING resembling explosives was used or found after the fact.

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    • DarKangelAZRAEL
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 3:41pm

      Also Mr. Cooper you are making the mistake of dismissing the kerosene in the basement is that they state the kerosene was burning in MANY different parts of the building as it was delivered to the separate rooms by piping.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 3:46pm

      It doesn’t matter what the official report says. It doesn’t matter what doubts it creates. As Sherlock Holmes says, eliminate the impossible and the result, no matter how improbable, must be the truth. If the alternative to the building collapsing as a result of the attacks requires belief in the psychologically impossible, belief in a conspiracy which can only exist in the fantasies of comic books or paranoid delusionals then the idea that the buildings collapsed as collateral damage to the Towers, no matter how mysterious or improbable, MUST be the truth.

      You keep going on about how it is possible for a team of organized operatives to bring down the buildings, neglecting the secrecy problem. No building has ever been demolished in secret because you can’t just leave a box of C4 here or there. C4 is not easy to get, and to demolish a building properly it must be placed on all the primary supports and rigged to blow simultaneously. that requires hundreds of feet of wiring which can’t be hid, not to mention the labor of installing it all.

      And again, you insist on ignoring the human infrastructure necessary to pull this off. to keep it all secret would require a massive co-ordination and acceptance of neceesary secrecy, so massive that the secret’s existence would be known on a much larger scale than the details of the secret. Remember D-Day? The organizational infrastructure to keep that secret was possible because all of American and Brittish society was complicit in the effort. the mechanisms that maintained the secret were everywhere visible and accepted as necessary tools of the common goal. Bluntly put, your imagined conspiracy could only succeed if America was aware of and on board with the goals of it. Otherwise it would fall apart just like all other attempts to mainatin government secrets.

      Wikileaks ring a bell? NYT expose on Abu Graib? Conspiracies will surface in a free society, even a relatively free one. Only a total dictatorship can conceal them, and even then it won’t be able to conceal itself.

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    • barrycooper
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 3:47pm

      Please read my link. Here is what the FINAL report said:

      “WTC 7 collapsed because of fires fueled by office furnishings. It did not collapse from explosives or from diesel fuel fires.”

      That is their finding, which obviously is formatted as assertion. Like all assertions, it can be dissected for internal consistency, and conformity with known external facts.

      I discuss NIST. I discuss alternative scenarios. I am quite intelligent, and I do not think I was the least bit sloppy here. On the contrary, I actually think I have thought this through better than any authors I have read, and no response here has given me cause to think otherwise.

      Here is my second post on my blog on the topic, which links to the initial treatment, and adds to it.

      Here’s a challenge to Glenn: get yourself a typical office, and set it on fire. Seriously. See what happens, and if the footage is usable, air it. Take a flame thrower–operated by an expert–and set an office area on fire filled with typical office furnishings, with cubicles, and computers, and piles of paper a few wooden desks, curtains, and the like.

      The official scenario is going to require this fire to continue undiminished for seven hours. Everybody else: if you are at work, look around you. Imagine taking a torch to everything there. Will that burn continuously for seven hours without the structure getting involved? You could do it with some wooden buildings, but even those would burn down within 7 hours.

      The official explanation makes no sense. If you eliminate fuels and structural damage as explanations, you are left with explosives, which is a particularly compelling explanation once you actually watch the collapse. It happened on live TV, and Dan Rather commented on it. The video is easy to find.

      According to the NIST itself, this event is unique. No skyscraper has EVER, in the history of skyscrapers, collapsed due to fire, and we are not even clear WHAT STARTED THE FIRE.

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    • barrycooper
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 4:09pm

      Here is that link again:http://moderatesunited.blogspot.com/2010/11/tower-7-thoughts.html

      I’m not going to follow the responses forever. This will likely be my last post, but feel free to follow up on the blog, or via the email posted there.

      I will say though, that I agree with Conan Doyle’s words he put in the mouth of Sherlock Holmes: once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

      I think it is impossible that the uncontrolled 7 hour combustion of office furnishing brought down a 47 story steel skyscraper at the same rate as if it were in free fall. Necessarily, then, something else happened. The experts have ruled out structural damage and fuel tank explosions, presumably based on the empirical data. They seem NOT to have ruled out explosives simply by the use of the “that’s impossible” process, and been left, by process of elimination, with a farcical explanation which nonetheless received the imprimatur of professionals.

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    • barrycooper
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 4:27pm

      Actually, one last comment: it’s interesting we appropriated the same quote. What Holmes did was examine the EVIDENCE. That is what he was talking about. If the EVIDENCE for something precludes some conclusions, then those conclusions are impossible. I have offered EVIDENCE stating that the standard explanation does not hold up under scrutiny.

      Your “evidence” is that the logistics for an operation of this size are insurmountable. May I be permitted to comment that Hannibal crossed the Alps, Skorzeny pulled Mussollini out of a mountain fortress with a handful of men, and that the Israelis stormed Green Island?

      That’s not argument: that is arrogance expressed with a contempt for the process of reason.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 5:50pm

      “Your “evidence” is that the logistics for an operation of this size are insurmountable.”

      My evidence is that the logistics for a operation of this size make secrecy a statistical impossibility given the known parameters of human psychology and American government and society. It would be the same thing as if your theory required men to move at the speed of light. Bodies cannotmove at the speed of light a theory requiring it would be impossible. Since large military operations involving civilian casualites cannot be covertly performed unless the entire engine of government and society were knowingly co-ordinated to accomodate the operations and since these conditions don’t exist those operations cannot be done covertly. These are facts of nature, human nature. That constitutes evidence.

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    • MadLib76
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 6:35pm

      Barry I’m with you here. There are way too many inconsistencies.

      There were fires in buildings 5 and 6 as well, and both were much worse than those in building 7. I’ve heard the fires in building 7 could have been put out with a sprinkler system, and for the whole building to just fall so systematically is just a bunch of b.s.

      If there was so much structural damage as these physics experts proclaim, why wouldn’t the building have fallen to that side, or have begun falling on that side first?

      And you bring up an excellent point, with the fires so high up on the first two towers, just how did the fires in all the other buildings get so bad? They all had diesel and kerosene in them I presume?

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    • GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
      Posted on March 8, 2011 at 9:59pm

      @ Montanarob “I am quite sure that Al Qaeda opporatives were behind the plane attack, there is more than sufficient evidence for that conclusion.”
      What do U consider “sufficient”? Radio transmissions that U don’t know who made from where? CIA “walkin witnesses”? Video of an airport terminal w/ an Arab going through security? Luggage w/ a will that happened not to get loaded on a suicide flight? A car the FBI needed a warrant to open UNDER NATIONAL SIEGE, which contained no useful info, yet was central in circumventing the 4th amendment? Am I leaving something out? What is it again U believe to be the credible evidence?

      @ stick2urguns the towers weighed 500,000 TONS, for every pound of aircraft there was a TON of building. Where do u get a “relatively lightweight structure” analogy? No engineer is willing to validate the computer models, NO ENG CERTIFICATIONS what so ever for the NIST report.

      @gunkgy fema emptied the majority of those “thousands of gallons of diesel for the emergency generators”, and even paid to have it disposed of as hazardous material. Ever seen old time bellows? They were used by blacksmiths to SOFTEN steel, not even melt it. So Rosey O is more correct in her understanding of physic, that is bad. It takes forced induction to melt steel, or even soften it w/ a hydrocarbon fire. THIS IS A FACT! Kerosene (jet fuel) burns at 218c, look it up. No where near hot enough.

      @darkangel U consider a 25yr old senior editor to be exp enough to debunk adv physics?

      @ilesfordian U are to one saying it would take ‘thousands’ to pull this off, complete BS! The port authority “pushed the button” to protect NYC from falsely perceived danger. The demo charges were stored in the solomon bro bld, tunnels were put in place when the buildings were built to accommodate these nukes. Dimitri K explains it in great detail. U are making it more complicated than it really was to hang on to ur weakly supported beliefs.
      As for JFK, u want me to believe hear say from 60yr ago as opposed to photographic evidence and the laws of physic. JFK’s head went front to back, TOWARD the direction LHO was said to be. I suppose next ur going to say it was a ricochet shot or some other line of BS. THE BULLET THAT KILLED JFK CAME FROM THE FRONT OF THE CAR PERIOD
      I seriously doubt he will respond to that, or anything again.

      @conservativewoman Inside the outer tube there is a 27 m × 40 m core, which was designed to support the weight of the tower. U may be proud of ur husband but he doesn’t know what he is talking about. He is regurgitating history ch propaganda, they still try to say LHO was an assassin. I laugh at ur husbands TOTAL ignorance of the WTC and physics. Even the fema report stated 11 core columns were taken out in WT1 and 7 core columns were taken out in WT2 an equal # were taken out on the perimeter.

      Don’t read “Halliburton agenda” D Briody, it will keep u up at night knowing how cheney is connected to KBR.

      Pleaze guy get an MRI to see if they can remove that micro chip from ur brain.

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  • Walter Zoomie
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 8:50am

    Yep. This STILL ****** me of. Just checking…

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    • Clive
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 3:08pm

      honestly, this footage wasn’t all that great. i mean, the footage we had seen before, with the planes actually hitting the buildings? that was more intense, and more crisp. this is good, just not really worth writing home about.

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  • ONE PIECE
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 8:48am

    I still remember it like it was yesterday!! Still hurts inside!

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  • kathydan59
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 8:47am

    my husband and I were home on 9/11, we watched the second plane hit the tower and the first thing my husband said was osma bin laden did this. we cried for a week watching the coverage, it felt like a personel attack on us and we live in michigan, America lost something on 9/11, i think innocents, how any real American could every forget this day is beyond me

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    • Puddle Duck
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 1:20pm

      Everytime I watch this it just steels my resolve to finish what has been started and finish it with the same conviction/terms that WWII was concluded with…….unconditional complete surrender by the enemy (whoever they are, whoever they become, whatever name they go by) no matter how long it takes, how much it costs….

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  • AmeriWoman
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 8:33am

    Incredible.
    Sad.
    Heart wrenching.
    Brings me back.

    Thank you for sharing.

    AW

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  • mikenleeds
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 8:29am

    those so-called peaceful muslins at work ,, run all of those bums out of our country

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  • LibertarianLady
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 8:24am

    The media should be showing 911 footage every day. This is 10 years now. Let NONE of us EVER forget.

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 8:19am

    Anyone notice the rather large boat speeding away from a dock? Don’t know if that is significant, or what, but no other water traffic was moving that fast at the time….

    We will NEVER FORGET. muslimes, we have news for you: AMERICA IS GOD’s country and we are taking it back.

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  • kathyd6
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 8:17am

    God bless all the people who died that day and their families. This was so painful to watch and I don’t ever want to forget what those terrorists did. May they rot in hell.

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  • Islesfordian
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 8:17am

    It is a national scandal thatwe have erased 911 from our minds by not viewing these videos for the last ten years. Why are we seeing this only now?

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    • gofigureinternational
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 10:54am

      You are spot on! If this was a Christian group, there would be cable channels dedicated to airing it for the last decade to “honor the memory of the loved ones lost”. With the main stream media, sadly it does not fit their propagandist mission.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 12:33pm

      This September will be the 10th Anniversary. I suspect we will be seeing a lot of video then.
      I happened to pop in a blank videotape when this was happening and let it run to the end. I knew this was history in the making and I wanted to record it for posterity.

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  • emertz8413
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 8:16am

    I’ll never forget where I was either, and what I felt!! Horrible! As a country, can we stop flogging ourselves like the albino in The DaVinci Code, and tell the people who think this was our fault to “jump off a bridge” (I was trying to be nice)

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    • riseandshine
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 11:31am

      it wasn’t our fault…it was the fault of planners and schemers who knew they could make many many billions for alot of people and get their country(the United States of America/ Israel) onto a neverending war footing with USA/I’s enemies.

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    • exdem
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 11:55am

      @RISEANDSHINE
      Go back to media matters. You are part of the problem. WE WERE ATTACKED ON 911 BY RADICAL MUSLIMS who believe in the death of all infidels. If you are an American , you too are an infidel and they want to kill YOU! You can say we did this to ourselves or its a plot by Bush or one giant insurance fraud by Tower excecs all you want but it doesnt change the facts. Just because you repeat a lie with stauch liberal conviction it does’nt make it truth. You never answered who was behind the attack on the towers in 93 when Clinton was president?? Was that an insurance scam too and who is benefitting? How do you get hijackers to die to enrich an American businessman’s bank account? Your ridiculous.

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  • SUEB
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 8:00am

    A NATION THAT WILL NEVER FORGET……bring on the hearings Congressman King.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 10:36am

      and A NATION THAT WILL NEVER INVESTIGATE !

      tower7femacamp  
  • Wrabbit2000
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 7:45am

    Interesting perspective. I never understood what my parents meant by knowing where they were when Kennedy was shot until this happened. Now I’ll never forget where I was, either.

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  • glennisright.com
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 7:43am

    It’s incredible to see this froma new point of view.

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  • QuietRiot
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 7:42am

    Increadible , but we have nothing to fear from Islam here in the states or overseas They will tel us today Islam is good.

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    • Highland
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 7:56am

      Obama, Holder, Napolitano, et al., dither and obfuscate while the next attack is being planned.

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:13am

      @Highland:
      “Obama, Holder, Napolitano, et al., dither and obfuscate while the next attack is being planned.”
      _____________________
      You are sadly, so right!

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    • TehFreedomist
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:18am

      @HIGHLAND – I cannot put enough emphasis on how true this is. It is beyond frightening that those people are the ones in charge of protecting us. When the Arizona Immigration Law was being passed they said the border with mexico is the safest it’s ever been. mmhm.. Wonder what they think about it now. “Nobody worry… Everything is fine… Go back to sleep… We’re taking care of it… Your Government is in control and protecting you.” Ya, right. These people need to be fired/impeached.

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    • VRW Conspirator
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 10:42am

      With the news that Hezbollah is crossing the Mexican border with the drug cartels….it is coming…
      i hate being the nut on the street screaming “the british are coming” but at least Paul Revere knew there were people listening and paying attention…
      i am afraid that in order for America to truly turn the corner back to the Constitution and the original intent of our Founders, not the intent the SCOTUS says they had, will take a catastrophic event on US soil….not 3000 dead which is horrific…but 30000 or 100000…a blow that takes out an entire city by chemical or biological attack…or an event at a sports arena or stadium….
      and while Washington tries to explain it as a criminal action by only a small band of extreme people, like you have in all right wing groups or christian groups, the American people will take matters into their own hands on the Mexican border and 10‘s of 1000’s more will die…
      if Obama is still in power when it happens…i predict he will use our police and military to attack US citizens not the Mexican cartels and terrorists streaming across the border…he will declare martial law in the southern states…suspend habius corpus….and if before november 2012….“postpone” the election until things get calmed down….

      all hail Caesar….

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    • Robert-CA
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 12:26pm

      Yep now I feel more secure about radical muslims so let them build a mosque next to ground zero , isn’t it so Mr lib loon Bloomberg ?

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    • chemjohn
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 1:47pm

      TehFreedomist
      Yeah, the Arizona border is so safe it is guarded by border patrols armed with beanbags. Unfortunately, the Mexican bandits did not get the memo as they have unsafe AK47s. These PC idiots are reducing our warriors and police from feared protectors to laughed at targets! They may as well have bullseye patches sown on their uniforms! I would wager that if we put these libs on the border with beanbags they would vigorously protest that it was unsafe!

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  • Silversmith
    Posted on March 7, 2011 at 7:37am

    I will never forget this

    Silversmith

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    • GrannyATL
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 7:56am

      WE can never let ANYONE forget this!

      GrannyATL  
    • not funny
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 8:05am

      No one should forget, but it seems that too many already have put it aside in favor of political correctness. Are they still thinking about building a mosque near this site?

       
    • bbdarthchris077
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 8:08am

      we should have this playing constantly on one national TV station world wide so nobody forgets what happened

       
    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 8:27am

      WE must never forget; and this clip makes it more than clear just how everyone has been affected by the terrorist attack on us that day; and regardless of what the administration says, it was a terrorist attack that day…no one rational and of a sound mind can deny that.

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:03am

      And the President of the United States and his entire administration REFUSE to NAME THE ENEMY…AND HOLDER called us a Nation of COWARDS!… AND…the way the American people have been treated the past 2 years, taking away our personal rights and treating us like criminals…I still remember seeing thousands of our own citizens (particularly those in New York City) standing atop those horrendous piles of debris with BUCKETS…little BUCKETS…passing the contents down the line, hour after hour, day after day, month after month…painstakingly sifting through the carnage, trying with all their hearts to retrieve even the smallest of human remains belonging to those who were obliterated in this attack…you talk about a time of “National Pride”? I was never more proud to be an American! NOW, we need to once again sift through the TRASH…only this time, in Washington DC and throw out the TRASH! We must NEVER forget our ENEMY and his FRIENDS!

      AzDebi  
    • poverty.sucks
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:16am

      The day Islam rejoiced with hatred toward Christians.

      poverty.sucks  
    • STATE IRON
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:19am

      But what about Jared Loughner and Timothy McVeigh?!?!

       
    • Iam4EnoughALREADY
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:27am

      Let’s put a giant mosque there now…. oh wait…..(sarcasm, of course!)

       
    • indy1
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:46am

      Why didn’t they attempt a rescue with helicopters to those poor people trapped at the top of the buildings?

       
    • corchem
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 9:46am

      Look for the Lutheran Church in the video, you might see, because you can’t see it now or any time in the near or likely future. hypocrites! demmunist scum!!

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    • Red Meat
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 10:15am

      All I know about Islam I learned on 9/11.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 10:38am

      Pull IT !!!!

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    • GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 10:40am

      Ground Zero = epicenter of a nuclear detonation.
      Humans can not hear an underground nuclear detonation the freq is <10Hz.
      Greatest insurance fraud EVER!!

      @ poverty.sucks I get pissed at the public believing all the CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE presented as fact to blame Islam. Radio transmissions can be broadcast from any location, they are not exclusive to planes. These aircraft don't need pilots to hit a target. How can an aircraft full of Navy personal be so easily overtaken, IT'S BS.

      @Indy1 They were given direct orders NOT TO! It was necessary to raise the death toll in order to pass the patriot act.

      PEOPLE LOOK AT THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE!! No center support columns were standing, NONE. Satellite thermal image clearly shows THREE heat "circles" at the base of each building that suffered "global collapse". 1st responders suffered radiation sickness w/o proper diagnosis. Pools of molten steel, it all points to nuclear demolition. The REAL evidence piles higher and high, yet the avg citizen ignores it because "it was ten years ago".

      STOP BEING A BUNCH OF SUCKERS, AND FACE THE FACTS!!!

       
    • cannakis
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 10:56am

      It is Interesting to point out that the video always seems to Cut Out and then come back Right When the Towers fall? It seems almost like it was Purposefully Done… It was not just Towers One and Two that fell, but rather Building 7 Fell much later in the day; and later the others were demolitioned because of damage — but why, why would Building 7 fall down with such Precision as the the first two Towers? Because if you watch the Real videos of the Towers falling, they each Fall as if they had been Demolitioned by professional E.O.D.; but for Some Reason this video which was “released” by the NYPD just now, does NOT show ANY footage of the Towers themselves Actually Falling — rather the film has been cut, and merely shows the direct before and after; this is quite strange, don’t you think? There was actual NanoThermite FOUND IN THE RUBBLE! The rubble was molten lava for months afterwards at the very core! AND… The Twin Towers, Buildings 1 & 2 of the World Trade Center Complex, were SPECIFICALLY ENGINEERED to NOT COLLAPSE in on itself as it did on September 11th; RATHER! They were engineered to collapse ONLY in Certain Sections and then Stop, because of how Massive the Buildings were, the Engineers KNEW it would be a problem, so they specifically fixed it… YET! For some reason, the Towers collapsed like professional Demolition crews had their hands on it… But what do i know, i am just a peasant.

       
    • exdem
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 11:03am

      How can any American forget this and who was behind it?? And yet the progressives and Obama want to blame us and embrace the enemy. They are cowards that won’t fight the enemy- hell they won’t even name the enemy. Its RADICAL ISLAM, Eric Holder and we are not a nation of cowards but have elected the weakest President and admistration in history. They have let radicals poor over our borders and even allowed election of some to political office. They are trying to shut down our speech about the Islamic takeover. There are protestors in NY railing against members of our Government even investigating the radicalization on Muslim Americans. The liberals seem to think conservative Americans are more dangerous than radical muslims and as far as I’m concerned are a bunch of cowardly whiny babies that would rather join them than even attempt to beat them. Its shameful and disgusting.

       
    • LadyLiberty
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 11:39am

      I am doing a year long tribute on my blog for the 10th anniversary for anyone who wishes to follow it.

      I am also probably going to attend a counter-vigil in Chapel Hill NC where Imam Rauf is planning to speak on of all things, ‘Citizenship’. Anyone in the area can get more info on my blog, I have a link there.
      http://ladyliberty1885.wordpress.com/

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    • Quagaar Warrior
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 11:44am

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      New Mosque?
      MY @SS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 11:46am

      @Red Meat:
      “All these 9-11 troofers. The Blaze is turning into one giant nuthut.”
      ___________
      “Patriots Don’t “Just Go Along To Get Along”…you should know that by now!

      “Wwhen I view debates online regarding things like 9/11, the new world order, and the Federal Reserve, people defending the government are so quick to call the conspiracy theorists lunatics, crazy, or plain ol’ retarded?

      It is not only what keeps our government on its toes, but also a right that our Founding Fathers gave us to question the government. Questioning the government is essential in order to keep an honest one, and I believe the media has done a great job at casting a shadow on theorists whereas it should be the other way around.

      So, why is everyone so quick to call conspiracy theorists crazy? …often times without doing research to intelligently debate them?”

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 11:57am

      May God have mercy on the souls of the Islamic enemy…because I sure don’t!!! I want them to die for their cause before they want to.

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    • cait4thetruth
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 12:02pm

      As Iraqs will never forget the shock and awe tactics of Bush Senior and Junior

       
    • DTOM_Jericho
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 12:02pm

      I remember all the flags that were on cars, windows and houses. The swell of pride. Funny how it’s all “back to norma”.

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    • jlferguson999
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 12:13pm

      There is no stronger eason for Rep. Kings investigation that is to start this Thruday.

       
    • Speedyj33
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 12:14pm

      Were E.O.D’s involved at the Fort Hood massacre. Was that pre-arranged and planned by the government.

       
    • One_Man_Army
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 12:16pm

      @ GROUNDZERO IS NUCLEAR DEMOLITION X3 and CANNAKIS

      You guys might want to look at actual facts before making your bogus Truther claims, you know. EVERY SINGLE demolitions expert has emphatically stated that ANY and ALL possible controlled demolition scenarios are COMPLETELY and UTTERLY impossible. The towers were NOT engineered to withstand a collapse from a 200 ton jet slamming into it at almost 600 miles per hour. However, they were engineered to withstand a collapse from a much smaller plane slamming into it at only a quarter of the speed. You guys seriously need to check your facts, you know.

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    • CultureWarriors
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 12:18pm

      I will never forget this ether … and I will never forget who did this. There is evil in the world and most of us are too afraid to face it. Most people are too PC to even say who did this to us after we have spent billions in aide in that area of the world. These are not humans they are animals. What we should do is remove any limitation to our own energy independence what so ever. We have hundreds of years of oil and gas in the US. The people who are putting up road blocks to drilling in America are a clear and present danger to our national security. Stop buying oil from these animals, stop all aide and let them eat sand.

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    • the_zazzy
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 12:23pm

      Just like Imperial Japan, that day they awakened a sleeping giant! But since then, the giant has fallen back asleep, and is being kicked and punched repeatedly, but refuses to wake his @$$ up!!!!!

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    • BurntHills
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 12:35pm

      obama wants us ALL to FORGET THIS.

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    • Cowgirl
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 12:40pm

      I was living in a different country (non-english speaking) when 9-11 happened. I didn’t have a TV, so this is the first time I’ve seen footage. I only saw foreign newspapers. Maybe that’s why this footage is hitting me so hard. Yet I can’t help but feel thankful that 9-11 wasn’t any worse than that. (I‘m not saying it wasn’t horrible, just that it could have been worse.)

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    • knotjammin2
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 12:52pm

      Then maybe we should remember that the second largest stockholder of FOX News is a member of the family that helped finance 9/11. A Saudi Prince is a major stockholder of the network that Glenn Beck is on. Seems a lot of us have forgot..

       
    • GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 1:01pm

      @ Army of ein,

      600mph, and ur telling me to get my facts str8, LMFAO. IT IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A 767 TO EXCEED MUCH OVER 300MPH @ SEALEVEL, short of a vertical nose dive into the earth. The air is too dense for the turbines to operate eff and the drag on the wings alone would rip them off. In addition they weigh 20 ton, not 200.
      The towers were designed to take the impact of a 707 @ cruise speed, which has MORE kinetic energy than a 767. The 767 is heavier by far, creating more drag causing slower speeds. I realize u are not capable of making these calculations due to the claim of government employment, but a simple search can point this out.
      I have read SEVERAL BOOKS on both sides to this subject including the commission report, and I will gladly debate any point U want to bring up. But I have NEVER heard a demo expert make such a claim. I have seen gov employees back pedal on claims to save their job, but the stance is not universal as u falsely claim to be fact.

      @ redmeat,
      Please back the gov claims w/ something other than “it’s not in the bible”.

       
    • Jim from Maine
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 1:05pm

      @State Iron

      You have to be kidding me ! Yes they did horrible things, but the weren’t JIhadists … better go back to the HuffPo, that is a vilage who is definately missing it’s idiot.

       
    • NOTALOTTAYITTAYADDA
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 1:25pm

      That little decimal place got to u nuke, 767s do weigh about 400,000 lbs.

      But Dimitri K. puts down a solid case http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFgxqYI28Wc ,for debunkers.

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    • ltb
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 1:37pm

      We will never forget 9/11? We can’t profile Muslim air travelers because we don’t want to offend them, we now call the war on terror an “overseas contingency operation,” a mosque is going to be built just a stone’s throw from the World Trade Center crater and we have a Muslim sitting in the Oval Office who is finishing the job of destroying America’s economy that his comrades started on 9/11/01. Forget what?

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    • American Soldier (Separated)
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 1:39pm

      @INDY1 Because they had absolutely no idea that there was even a remote possibility that the building would collapse. Never in the history of sky scrappers has a building collapse due to a fire. Both buildings were even designed to withstand the largest commercial airliner, of the time, hitting it.

      That’s why there were so many fire fighters going in, they had no expectation of a collapse. Buildings have been on fire for nearly 24 hours and stood standing afterwards. Say what you want about jet fuel, I don’t completely buy it. Most of that fuel incinerated immediately at impact (read: fire ball).

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    • stifroc
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 1:54pm

      @ GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3

      Soooo the 2 towers fell several minutes apart… from the SAME underground nuke? Or were there 2 nukes? And the nukes UNDER the towers caused the towers to topple from the top down?

      I mean… a nuclear explosion is such a controlled explosion right? I mean it’s pretty much a shaped charge right?!?!?! And a nuclear explosion would only make a crater the size of the footprint of the towers… and would leave the footers of the building mostly intact too right?!?!? And a nuke detonated under manhattan would not effect any of the other buildings either. Not to mention that there have been no reports of anyone suffering from radiation sickness in NY in the past 10 years right? For cryin out loud we all know that radiation from a nuke is not residual!

      Common sense is a pain in the @ss huh?

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    • John_Free
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 1:55pm

      Absolutely…WE MUST NEVER FORGET!!!!

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    • stifroc
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 2:07pm

      I mean it‘s completely realistic to believe that it was all Bush’s fault… and in 10 years not a single person has broken their silence on something this huge. I mean that person would be a national hero for exposing such a horrendous thing perpetrated by such a diabolical fiend of a president! The Democrats could secure the death of the republican party if they would just investigate and expose the truth. Yet, none of these things have happened? I mean it’s a HUGE media cover-up because the media is so in love with Bush they are practically his right arm!

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    • mossbrain
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 2:15pm

      I’m not happy about it either, in fact I’m in favor of not letting a single Muslim immigrant enter the USA. but you have to remember our quarantine of Iraq, including prevention of stuff to treat their water systems to prevent disease, led to the deaths of around 500,000 children. Hey uncle Sam, ya got any videos of half a million kids dying of preventable disease?

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    • stifroc
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 2:29pm

      @ Mossbrain

      Got any sources to back that up?
      Or is it a drive-by swipe?
      If you got credible source I’ll believe you, if not then you belong on the movie set where the Govt filmed the fake moon landing.

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    • BigSky
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 3:06pm

      If this played constantly over the air on TV people will become desensitized by it.

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    • BigSky
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 3:09pm

      @bbdarthchris077 If this played constantly on TV people would eventually become desensitized by it and begin to ignore it. Pick any story that is played over and over and over again in the media and you will find examples of just this sort of human reaction to being desensitized by gory violence.

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    • rosebud03
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 3:19pm

      This video of 911 should be shown every month on national tv stations. The old saying “Out of sight out of mind” applies here. The public needs to be reminded of this tragedy

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 3:41pm

      A & E for 9/11:
      New video 3/7/11

      http://vimeo.com/20574556

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    • Jefferson
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 4:11pm

      I will NEVER FORGET my friend who died who was in the WTC working for Marsh & McLennan
      I will NEVER FORGET the look on Bush’s face.
      I will NEVER FORGET the way Bush, Rice, and Rummy got up and LIED saying “we never expected to be attacked by airplanes.”
      I will NEVER FORGET How there were previous drills dealing PRECISELY with an airliner attack not only on the WTC’s but the Pentagon.
      I will NEVER FORGET how previous intelligence from the FBI was IGNORED
      I will NEVER FORGET how long Bush and Cheney STALLED a 9/11 investigation, and then tried to put HENRY KISSINGER in charge of it.
      I will NEVER FORGET the dozens of eyewitnesses, firefighters, and police describing being BLOWN
      DOWN by EXPLOSIONS.
      I will NEVER FORGET watching WTC 7 (Which wasn’t even hit by a plane) come down in 6.5 seconds at FREEFALL speed, just after the windows blew out sequentially up the sides.
      I will NEVER FORGET that cockroach LARRY SILVERSTEIN ADMITTING that they “gave the order to pull it, and then watched the building collapse” (his exact words on video, Google it)
      I will NEVER FORGET that 6 out of the 10, 9/11 commissioners have GONE ON RECORD and called their OWN INVESTIGATION “a national scandal”, “a conflict of interest” “frustrated with the false statements” among many other things.
      I will NEVER FORGET the the LEAD COUNSEL (John Farmer) for the 9/11 commission went on record and said “The White House made a CONSCIOUS DECISION to NOT TELL THE TRUTH about the events of 9/11″
      I will NEVER FORGET how Glenn Beck said to “question boldly” but then ridiculed anyone who questioned 9/11.
      I will NEVER FORGET how many stupid comments I read here that still show that many here are just simpletons that have not done their own research, and are just letting GB do their thinking for them.
      I will NEVER FORGET how Glenn Beck attacked Deborah Medina (Texas Gov. Candidate, and Tea Party Favorite) for simply saying there were questions still unanswered.

      I will HONOR the memories of the fallen by doing my own research, and speaking out, and striving to get justice for the guilty. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz, Pearl, et al:
      http://whodidit.org/cocon.html
      This is just one smoking gun, out of many:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100

      May your chains rest lightly on you. Morons…

       
    • loriann12
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 4:30pm

      @ GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3

      If any of that crap was true, don’t you think Van Jones and Obummer would have proven it by now? They are the ones in power, so why haven’t they unearthed all the documents saying it was an inside job? And you can’t get a helicopter close to the thermals that must have been coming off that building for sheers, or don’t you watch TV? The up/down drafts would have been horendous. The helicopter would have gone DOWN.

      The buildings were taken down by radicalized Muslims who hate America. I don’t know if the saying a good Muslim is a terrorist is true or not, because no Moderate Muslims are speaking out.

      As for Loughlin and McVeigh, they were terrorists, too, and are getting just what they deserve. But they didn’t run in screaming, Great is my God!

      You need to get a clue.

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    • Jefferson
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 4:43pm

      Oh…. I see how this works….If I have some nutball “nuclear detonation” theory, my comments stay, so that the people who seek the truth about 9/11 look like whackjobs.
      But when I post CREDIBLE evidence, actual statements of 9/11 commissioners, owners, and other involved parties, my comment gets deleted.
      Keep in mind, that you are protecting the guilty by deleting my comments. That makes you complicit in the 9/11 crime. A crime BTW, that the FBI NEVER formally charged UBL with. Just check out their top ten most wanted site, and you will NOT see the crime of 9/11 listed. The FBI admitted they did NOT have enough hard evidence to charge him. WTF?

       
    • NotaLemming
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 5:17pm

      This lady needs to contact Rep King and testify at his hearings. http://yourdaddy.net/2011/02/03/ex-cia-agent-reveals-muslim-brotherhood-has-infiltrated-obama-administration/

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    • @leftfighter
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 5:31pm

      Every time I watched this on the History Channel, I saw this chopper buzzing around up there and wondered what happened to the video.

      I still remember this like it was last week.

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    • Kalish
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 5:48pm

      Never forget, WHO DID IT !

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    • GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 6:16pm

      @1manarmy here is a WTC design eng speaking to that very point, it is @ the 2min mark: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNs2lnn78Ww

      @stifroc here are TWO gov sites showing the thermal image of GZ on the 16th: http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2001/ofr-01-0429/thermal.r09.html and http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/911/images/lg-map-therm1.jpg
      Notice how boundaries of the Soloman Bro building (WTC 7), form a visible circle. The demo charges (plural) for the towers were off center of the structures, that is why a corner of each building remained standing. The heat energy is more dispersed due to the relative proximity to each other. Here is what happens during an underground nuclear detonation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ucXlaACNE4
      Other buildings were effected. Case in point Fiterman Hall just north of WTC7, was in the collapse zone as explained in pt 15 of the same series.
      Why did we “see” the towers collapse from the plans impact zone. As I mentioned b4, the core columns were undermined, which is obvious by their absents when the dust settled. The exterior walls were designed to carry 40% of the structures load. When the core “dropped out”, the exterior failed first at it’s weakest point (where the planes entered).
      Ignorance of the LAWS OF PHYSICS is a b!tch, ain’t it.

      @NLYY Ya, I’m not perfect but who is. Nice catch .

      @loriann12 If U haven’t heard obummer is a puppet, doing what he is told. Otherwise he wouldn’t be in the white house. Why has he not taken our troops out, he promised “w/n 16 months”, remember? How did the helos rescue people off the roof in 93′, wind shear off the building would be stronger than thermal updrafts. As for “radical musliums”, again ALL of that evidence is CIRCUMSTANTIAL @ BEST. Unless U were on board one of those planes U don’t know what happened, and there is no way to prove otherwise w/o radio triangulation. Once above 15k ft, cabin depressurization will cause hypoxia w/i seconds, w/o supplemental oxygen (controlled by CPU, as is autopilot). In addition 77 was loaded w/ Navy personal, now what does that say about the Navy’s ability to def the country. Let alone a single aircraft.

      “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie — deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic. Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.” ~ John F. Kennedy

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 6:19pm

      @NotaLemming:
      “This lady needs to contact Rep King and testify at his hearings. http://yourdaddy.net/2011/02/03/ex-cia-agent-reveals-muslim-brotherhood-has-infiltrated-obama-administration/
      ___________________
      Funny that you would post her here today…was just thinking about her (listened to her for the first time about a month ago)…she sure knows her stuff…

      EVERYONE should take the time to watch and listen…you’ll learn a lot!

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    • JoelMcConnell
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 10:42pm

      Wow! I will never forget this day either. I was a short timer in the Marine Corps. I was assigned to C.O.G. of 2nd AABN. I was eating breakfast when I turned on the news and saw that the first tower had been hit. I was watching when the 2nd was hit and I new we were in trouble. I ran to report what was happening and we watched in disbelief. I was told to “prepare for the worst, we are under attack.” sounds cheesy, but it made my heart stop. We ran to the armory to pull our weapons. Up to this point they always checked things very carefully, ID cards, Rifle Cards, Bayonet Cards, and never issued us ammo there. We had our rifles and ammo from the BN intel Officer thrown at us, no accountability. We had a 2 minute use of force briefing and for next few days I was patroling highway 17 through Camp Lejeune, slept at the Battalion Headquarters with a small group of Marines. We had our personals and light Machine guns. We set up a secured perimeter around the entire Battalion to include wire and a 5 ton maze. My Company was at 29 palms for CAX and could not return until days later after the flights resumed. I went in a convoy to Cherry Point to pick them up and the entire way there, people out in town cheered for us to kill those who attacked us. 9/11 was a terrible day that will forever be with me. Everytime I see footage our see a plane out of what i believe is normal, I tear up and want to throw up. Thanks Mr. Beck for everything you do. God bless you and your listeners.

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on March 7, 2011 at 11:12pm

      nor will I, Silversmith.

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    • RCScrolls
      Posted on March 8, 2011 at 12:13am

      Whats worse is that GOD allowed this to happen, because we are not doing what we are supposed too!
      He has to remove His hand of protection from anyone that walks away including good old USA

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    • thepatriotdave
      Posted on March 8, 2011 at 12:49am

      Hmmm….

      I put to shame some of you that still hold to the notion that 9/11 was some sort of inside job and was something other than what it really was, and for this the Blaze has deleted my comments.

      I keep saying over and over… hiring a huffpo reject was not a good move. The Blaze is being hurt by their actions.

      http://www.americasteapartynews.com

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    • Christopher7
      Posted on March 8, 2011 at 1:18am

      Have any of you seen the close up videos of the Trade Towers being blown up?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSApOavkHg8

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_UeLXfI37s

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    • Kalshion
      Posted on March 8, 2011 at 2:39am

      @GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3

      You want to change people’s minds? Learn to spell first please. Otherwise, photoshop is an incredibly good tool to use to FAKE stuff, I‘m not saying they ’were’ faked, I’m saying its easy to do. And also another thing to note, if a nuke HAD gone off the radiological alerms in NYC would’ve gone off as well, though I have no idea where they are actually located. I just know that none had been tripped.

      Not only that, Radiation from a nuke lasts for a ‘long’ time, had a nuclear bomb really gone off there would still be radiation lingering in the area and people would be getting sick of radiation poisoning. There‘s the other problem that it would’ve destabalized the ground in the surrounding areas causing other buildings to collapse or suffer serious damage. As it is, only a couple buildings actually suffered any other damage. I can‘t explain why WTC 7 collapsed when it wasn’t hit, but I’m not going to go off a conspiracy that has NO EVIDENCE to back it up. I know what I saw. I know what my BROTHER SAW. And I know what I saw LIVE on TV on September 11th 2001. Two planes, one each hitting the towers and them collasping.

      Oh, and one other thing, I never even HEARD anyone mention that explosions that were causing people to fall down. Documentary footage and even some live footage at the time of the incident didn’t show anyone being knocked down, and the thermal readings are more easily explained by fires going on UNDER the debris field. I’ve seen thermal images like those from fires that take place when buildings collapse in failure and the fires become contained underground.

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    • UPSETVET
      Posted on March 8, 2011 at 4:09am

      FDR’s address to Congress on December 8, 1941 can be repeated after 9/11/2001, I’s “ A date that will live in infamy ”. The cowardly attack on Pearl Harbor by the Japanese doesn’t compare with the cowardly attack on the World Trade Center.
      Both events have one thing in common. The Attack on Pearl Habor happened 70 yers ago and has not been forgotten. The attack on the World Trade Center happened almost 10 years ago and it will never be forgotten . God Bless America !

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    • hifi74
      Posted on March 8, 2011 at 6:29am

      Groundzero,

      Since you are having problems with numbers here, here is the gambit of weights on a Boeing 767 as you can see it is anywhere between about 175k lbs and 401k lbs. That puts the weight between 87.5 tons and 200 tons fully loaded. Try again though cause this ought to be fun.

      767-300 – Empty with PW-4050s 79,560kg (175,400lb), with CF6-80C2B2s 79,379kg (175,000lb). Operating empty with PW-4050s 87,135kg (192,100lb), with CF6-80C2B2s 86,955kg (191,700lb). Higher gross weight version max takeoff with PW-4050s or CF6-80C2B2s 159,210kg (351,000lb).
      767-300ER – Empty with PW-4060s 81,374kg (179,400lb), with CF6-80C2B4s 80,603kg (177,700lb). Operating empty with PW-4060s 90,535kg (199,600lb), with CF6-80C2B4s 90,175kg (198,800lb). Max takeoff with PW-4060s 181,890kg (401,000lb), with CF6-80C2B4Fs 175,540kg (387,000lb).

      For reference here is where I got the numbers from

      http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=104

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    • GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
      Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:42am

      @ davethepatriot I don’t know why ur post was remove, it didn’t seem that offensive to me, certainly been called worse. LOL I did leave u a retort on pg 6, in response to another debunker. It’s water off a ducks back, I realize how upsetting it is to have ur faith challenged and I don’t take it personal.

      @ kalshion “learn to spell please…radiological alerms” LMAO that made my day. “no idea where they are actually located. I just know that none had been tripped.” u also have yet to prove they exist, but I have no doubt u “heard it from the guberment”. As for photoshop, I referred to a dot gov web site. Yes, I do believe they were photoshopped because the authentic photos show more defined “circular” boundaries on bld 1&2. “but the guberment would never do that”, whatever.

      Radiation, I addressed that last night on pg 6. And YES people did get sick, yet it was chalked up to asbestos exposure.
      “And I know what I saw LIVE on TV” What u saw was not live TV and here is why. As some news anchors disclosed on the air, an unprecedented sharing of video feed occurred that day. All news source feeds were routed to a single location which in turn re routed all feeds to all networks, according to the news anchor.
      What thought are U trying to convey in the last paragraph in such bad grammar? U really don’t have a clue when it comes to the physics of an underground nuclear detonation, do u? For starters, collapse from a fire is GRADUAL not GLOBAL. Underground debris fires do not reach such high temps naturally.

      @hifi74 I admitted to that mistake, yet u won’t address max speed @ sea level, reason?
      The excessive information reminds me of an teacher who would say “If U can‘t dazzle u’m w/ brilliance, baffle the w/ BS”. Question: Does the military use alum bullets to take out armored tanks?

      @philby on pg7 If U watch the series, which I will not be so common to repeatedly post, the demo devices were stored in bld 7. Do U understand how powerful a nuclear device is? I doubt more energy would have been needed, but it is plausible the cross sectional support provided by the sky lobbies needed to be diminished. U r the 1 making a claim that “it would have taken thousands of people” thats ur myth to deal w/ not mine. It took 100,000 people to carry out the manhattan project, and yet nobody knew about it until all was said and done. One woman didn’t know what she had done for 60yr, after walking into a museum she saw her picture and realize she was part of the project. AND THIS WAS A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE!

      @juice While ur looking up all this info, find the demo plan submitted prior to the start of construction as per NYC building code. Any large building is REQUIRED to do so, even in the 60′s. Hint: Sears tower in Chicago has the same demo plan, is run by silverstein and has asbestos problems as well.

      Let’s put this in perspective by looking at history. Did LHO shoot JFK? Maybe if he were standing IN FRONT of the Caddy. I don’t have to show the Zapruder film, it’s ingrained in all of our memories. This photographic evidence shows JFK’s head going front to back, while his wife tries to escape off the BACK of the car. Some people still believe, contrary to the LAWS OF PHYSICS, that JFK was shoot IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD! They see the same film image we see, yet they have been told repeatedly, over and over “LHO did it”. AND THEY STILL BELIEVE IT, contrary to the physical evidence. If U present this evidence to a martian and made such a claim, they would laugh at U. Whether he did it or not I don’t care, the FACT is the bullet that hit JFK came from the FRONT not the back. Anyone who believes different should be laughed at and ridiculed, and that is the paradox.

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    • Neal
      Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:54am

      That little decimal place got to u nuke, 767s do weigh about 400,000 lbs.

      But Dimitri K. puts down a solid case http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFgxqYI28Wc ,for debunkers.

      ===========================================================

      Funny thing about that video. When they show the supposed earthquake that was the result of the nuclear explosion, not only does the building “shake” but the smoke does too. I call BS on this one. Looks manufactured to me.

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    • NOTALOTTAYITTAYADDA
      Posted on March 8, 2011 at 3:27pm

      Neal, the camera is on a tripod. The “shaking” affect is a result of p-waves in the ground indicating the detonation. Watch as the smoke billows out the top once the shaking occurs. This is due to the displacement of air through out the entire building. Here is the shot w/o close up, it is harder to detect. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDa94ADiiLA
      Look up underground nukes on Utube the timing is very much the same for the collapse of sand in the desert. Large buildings will have similar timing w/ conventional demo charges.
      Thanks for keeping an open mind, critique is welcome. People learn by asking questions.

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    • nzkiwi
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 6:38am

      @GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
      Cruise speed 530 mph, max speed 568 mph. You are getting too many things wrong.

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