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Indiana Gov. Prepares for Massive ‘Right to Work’ Battle

For his final experiment in the conservative laboratory that is Indiana, Gov. Mitch Daniels is tinkering with a labor bill that could bring more jobs to the state, is guaranteed to bring massive labor protests to the Statehouse during the 2012 session and may temporarily shut down all other legislative business.

Before he leaves office in January 2013, Daniels will be pushing “right-to-work” legislation that would ban private companies and labor unions from negotiating contracts with mandatory labor fees.

Unsurprisingly, union leaders have vowed to fight the Indiana bill, which they say would turn the state into the “Mississippi of the Midwest,” by flooding the statehouse with thousands of protesters, according to the New York Times.

Many “right-to-work” supporters say it is immoral to compel workers — whether they are willing or not — to financially contribute to the unions. On the opposite side of the political spectrum, opponents of the “right-to-work” effort claim that it is wrong to allow “free riders” not to support the unions that “represent them in negotiations and arbitrations,” reports the Times.

The measure spurred a five-week walkout by House Democrats that denied House Republicans the numbers needed to conduct daily business and could be repeated again.

House Minority Leader Patrick Bauer, D-South Bend, has declined to say whether Democrats will walk out again: “We don’t have to make plans to do that, we have to react to what they’re doing.”

“Right-to-work” measures, if enacted and enforced, could carry serious financial consequences for unions.

“Corporations view such laws as an important sign that a state has policies friendly to business,” writes the Times’ Steven Greenhouse. “Labor leaders say that allowing workers to opt out of paying any money to the union that represents them weakens unions’ finances, bargaining clout and political power.”

And Daniels administration safety officials, acting Friday in advance of the thousands of labor protesters expected to flood the Statehouse next week, capped the number of people who can occupy the building at 3,000.

Hoosiers: Mitch Daniels Prepares for Massive Right to Work BattleA protest at Indiana’s statehouse last February over collective bargaining.

Leading the “right-to-work” charge, Brian C. Bosma, the Republican speaker of the Indiana House, says that not being a right-to-work state has been a serious deterrent in attracting businesses to Indiana.

“Local economic development officers testified that 25 to 50 percent of companies looking to create employment, whether through expansion or locating a new facility, just took Indiana and other non-right-to-work states off the table,” he said in an interview. “This is stopping employers from coming to Indiana. We need to deal with that.”

However, opponents of “right-to-work” measures argue that talk of improving Indiana’s business climate is just a “pretext.”

“It’s a political attack on what the Republicans see as one of their main opponents — organized labor,” said Jim Robinson, the top United Steelworkers official in Indiana. “They want to weaken unions to help assure continued Republican majorities.”

John Sampson, president of the Northeast Indiana Regional Partnership, an economic development group, disagrees with their “pretext” argument.

Companies were “attracted to right-to-work states not because of lower wages but because the weakened role of unions means that companies get greater operating flexibility, which lowers their costs,” Sampson said in a recent Associated Press report.

“Some people will say this is about bashing organized labor,” Mr. Sampson added. “From my point of view, there’s nothing better for labor than to create increased demand for jobs.”

Regardless of whether or not Daniels is successful in his attempts to make Indiana a “right-to-work” state, it cannot be argued that, since taking office in 2005, his policies have become something of a model for Republican governors nationwide.

“His actions in cancelling collective bargaining…have led a number of Republican governors to attempt the same thing,” said Darrell West, vice president and director of governance studies for the Brookings Institution, a Washington-based think tank.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Comments (99)

  • Nanaswords
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 3:06pm

    Question… Who stays at any one job\location for 20 years any more ? Also, who needs someone else to negotiate “ Job specifics” for a job position any longer ? That now comes in a “Face-to-Face” conference with the Immediate Supervisors ! If an employee does not go this route…he /she is looked at as not “Promotional” within that company…Self starters and Goal setters are what is desired today in any forward thinking company !!! A “Watch” at retirement is not a serious goal any longer for any employee today ! That was a good thing in the early 1900′s… So were unions !!!

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    • guntotinsquaw
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 5:48pm

      Actually most of the people I know have been at their employers for 20 yrs or more. But I am in a right to work state.

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    • Quagaar Warrior
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 7:30pm

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      Union workers are all a bunch of fat,

      U. seless
      N. on-producers
      I. sisting
      O. n
      N. ational
      S. ocialism!
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    • rcw_68
      Posted on January 4, 2012 at 12:02am

      I moved from CA to IN back in ‘95 and the difference was incredible. There were jobs galore paying a pretty decent wage. I moved out to TN in 2002 and it started to go downhill. 5 years ago it was absolutely horrible. However, if they start making smart decisions again, I would be more than willing to move back there again. There is alot of work in my line of field that isn’t being raped by the illegals.

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    • hannah senesh
      Posted on January 11, 2012 at 1:33pm

      I want to work! I do not want big government running my life and handing me money to be lazy! I am sure you and many like you never held a job…

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  • garbagecanlogic
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:57pm

    Kick their butts Mitch!

    The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
    The U.N. Out Of The U.S.

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 4:28pm

      Boy Oh Boy… Right to work state, now thats a novel concept…. We should go the commie union route….. Right to be an overpaid, underworked slacker state…. Too bad they’re all goin bankrupt, i wonder why ?

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 4:44pm

      The unions are shakin in their boots, and the Democrats are ****** in theirs…. Follow the money !!!

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  • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:52pm

    Oddly enough, there is one profession in the state of Indiana that is RTW already. Teachers. A teacher at an Indiana public school cannot be compelled to join any union or pay fees to any union to which they do not belong.

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    • krenshau
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 3:47pm

      My wife worked in Fort Wayne, and they did require teachers to pay dues, even when they were not a part of the union.

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    • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 3:57pm

      Then, either that predated the court case that removed that ability of public school unions, or the union was breaking the law. The teacher education I got a year ago taught that you can’t be forced to join the union at any public school by which you are employed.

      I read a bit of propaganda from the unions for the unionists to use against non-union public school teachers by telling them that they are getting a free-ride off the union, and for the unionists to tag team them so they can’t claim that a particular unionist is harassing them, even as the union as a whole *is* in fact harassing them. By means of rebuttal to that type of harassment, I read the advice to tell the unionists that you’re not a free-rider, but rather a captive passenger.

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 4:38pm

      Unless they want all their tires slashed….. Otherwise its voluntary !!!

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    • Copper Catfish
      Posted on January 4, 2012 at 9:47pm

      Teachers are not compelled to join the Union, but the Union dues are taken from their checks anyway, whether they choose to join or not.
      I am a retired teacher. $300-$400 per month dues money was withheld from my paycheck during the 10-month school session.

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  • Calvierto
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:50pm

    Im all for this, however, as a resident of Indiana i no longer support Mitch Daniels. He has changed our clocks against the will of the people. He says he is for small government, but is all about smoking bans. RINO.

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    • markgl
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 3:47pm

      What does daylight savings time have todo with being republican or democrat? Good grief.

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    • Calvierto
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 3:59pm

      @ Markgl…….It has nothing to do with the D‘s or the R’s. It has everything to do with politicians going against the will of the people. We did not want daylight savings time, in was forced upon us in a Nancy Pelosi tactical way.

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 4:41pm

      @lesbian packin
      I like the way you think… Keep fightin the good fight !!!!!

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    • trog58
      Posted on January 4, 2012 at 5:09am

      I am not sure where you are getting your facts from, but you are not correct. As an Indian resident, I welcomed the switch to daylight savings time. If you ever have to deal with someone outside of the state (as many more people do these days) it is a royal pain to keep track of who is on what time.
      And as for farmers, don‘t they work from can see to can’t? I NEVER heard a compelling argument against DST. Maybe you have one that would make sense, but I doubt it.

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  • funwithguitars
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:49pm

    I frequently support local firemen and police. However I do not support , EVER, the teachers. Not until they give us the right to fire the worst among them. We can’t fire the worst in the city, or the county or the state. Not even the worst teacher in the STATE can be fired??? Re-friggin-dick-you-lous…

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  • marcus defey
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:48pm

    The unions try to cloud the issue. Right to work does not stop any union from forming, it only allows the workers the choice (the right to choose, the American way) of joining or not. The unions hype the Right To Work states only create minimum wage jobs and that is an absolut lie, but then again, the Unions are good at that.

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  • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:47pm

    The Right to Work bill gets MY support, and I need to send all of my state officials a message to that effect ASAP.

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  • Nanaswords
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:42pm

    What the Labor Unions fail to realize is that….People in America TODAY are not the unread…uninformed majority of the early 1900′s ! There is NO NEED for union people any longer in 2011-2012 and so on… !!! Communication is not limited to newspapers and back-room gossip\garbage.! Strong-arm…mob use… control is not going to work Today ! Americans are all too aware as to the union agenda and their need for labor dollars called “dues”. ! They are not “Due” for any of their agenda any longer…So back-off and disband into a country that has your agenda as a national political stand.. Americans have got your number !!! We CANCEL your vote from NOW ON !!! There will be NO More FEAR of your mob tactics here !!! We are also watching out for the RHINO folks in the political arenas. !!! A true 2012 Change !

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:48pm

      The unions will be slaughtered by Liberty. Your days are numbered. Die commie unions.

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    • dannyvabchva
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 10:53pm

      Union bosses want the income so they can live high on the hog. To hell with the people paying in.

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  • vaman
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:35pm

    The day of the union in almost every job is in the past.

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  • NIPPOHIPS
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:21pm

    Ron Paul 2012

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    • scheduler
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:31pm

      I am fully with you.

      http://politicalbowl.com – Political Videos

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    • ClassicalLiberal
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:41pm

      Dito!

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:43pm

      He’s the only one who knows the constitution is used to limit government power.

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    • JayDick
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 3:04pm

      Apparently you like Obama as President. If Paul were nominated (very unlikely), Obama would be President for another term.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 3:16pm

      Oh I‘m sure we’ll get another progressive with an R next to his name so no need to worry.I don‘t know if you’ve seen any posts I’ve made in the past but I routinely bash our Marxist president,so I wouldn’t vote for that vile man if a gun was aimed at my head.

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  • Patio_Philosophy
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:20pm

    I can guarantee that a large portion of union protestors will be bussed in from Illinois. You see, IL will be the loser if this passes since IN will be taking a lot of industry from them. Leftist Democrat Patrick Bauer’s district (NW IN) would benefit the most, but yet he will not vote for this because his allegiance is with the unions and not the people that vote for him.

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  • Akbarjonnie Shaheed
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:16pm

    Thank you for your courage to fight for the workers who want to work without being threatened and forced to pay blood money to the unions. If the worker wants to join the union, that is fine. They should have the Freedom to make their choice. Freedom First!

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:22pm

      How can any group fight a right to work legislation as it’s Constitutional that every man have a RIGHT TO WORK. How is the RIGHT TO WORK any less inalienable than free speech. The right to provide for one’s family without being extorted out of a percentage for the privledge of working in one state or another. Any orginazation that require anyone pay for the ability to earn a living is UNCONSTITUTIONAL BY LAW.

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    • encinom
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:24pm

      So you are for enslavng the workers to the whims of the Corporations? Thank you GOP for angering the workers and Union just before a Presidential elections.

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    • rush_is_right
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:32pm

      yeah EN, we’d rather be slaves to the fat-cat unioni thug bosses, and their brown-shirted fascist thug members.

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    • RichNGadsden
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 3:01pm

      ENCINOM, Have been in unions in the past and I can say that I would rather be without them. Have seen too much thuggery tactics from the unions than without. Talk about slavery! And, they took a lot of dues from my pay checks. In a non-union job I can outshine the those who just want to sit on their butts and do as little as possible and can better deal with my bosses for more pay. I don’t get stuck making the same as the lowest, sorriest idiot on the payroll.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 3:01pm

      libertard wrote So you are for enslavng the workers to the whims of the Corporations
      No I’m for being able to work without being extorted out of hard earned money by brown shirts for the ability to even provide for my family. It groups want to unionize let them employers but it should be a prerequisite to being able to get work. And employers should have the right to promote based on ability not time served and hire productive workers to replace slack or non productive workers.

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    • barber2
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 6:06pm

      ENCIN: You’re thanking the wrong group for ” angering the workers and the UNION just before a Presidential election.” It is not the GOP you should be thanking . You should be thanking your guy in the White House ! It is, after all, president Obama himself who is stirring up civil unrest with all of his Hate Speech against banks, Wall Street, the “rich,” and CEOs. Yes, the Commander-in-Chief of the USA who is responsible for this very un -presidential rhetoric. But, hey, maybe that’s the way they do community organizing in Chicago…..

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:15pm

    Unions are wonderful especially in Michigan,ah yes the unions and Granholm a great team for destroying jobs.I know if I had a business of any size I would go out of my way to make sure it was in a pro union state..Unions are good for two things running businesses to right to work states and collecting union dues.

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  • elosogrande
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:13pm

    Daniels doesn’t get it. You only have a right to work if you join a union. Otherwise you have to stay home and demand that those who do work support you – cradle to grave.

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  • jakartaman
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:13pm

    Unionism = Communism
    Unions only protect the weak and or stupid.
    Its not so much the trade union members as it is the gangster leaders
    Teacher unions on the other hand, have lot of their membership by nature – liberal socialist.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:27pm

      Public sector workers like teachers should have the right to unionize as they have to competetion and no true way to gauge results. If I was a manufacturer and I was putting out a product has crapping as what our public schools are doing I would be out of business.
      END THE D.O. EDUCATION
      END THE NEO-SOCIALIST INDOCTRINATION CENTER
      END THE PROPGANDA MACHINE

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  • hauschild
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:12pm

    Again, I’ll say it, because nobody else will.

    It’s fine and dandy to bash the unions again, but when are we going to start calling out the employees? They are essentially the ones that have been overpaid and overcompensated for years, yet they have the gall to whine and protest? How else other than a slap upside the head will these people understand that they are destroying their communities because they believe they’re entitled to something.

    If we ever gain control of this mess, I certainly hope what has gone on is not swept under the rug, or the same thing will happen 50 years from now.

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    • 2theADDLED
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 4:41pm

      If everyone received a union wage they would no longer be considered the middle class and would demand another raise upping them to a new middle class rate.
      No contracts for any worker rely on your own merits and quality of work, sink or swim If they were any good they would not need a contract to hide behind.
      Contracts are made to be broken !

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  • BOstinks
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:12pm

    Surely the workers of this country are not stupid enough to keep backing these union leaders determined to live the high life at their expense. If union participation was so great why are the unions so afraid of letting people decide if they want to join? They like to talk about union brothers etc etc and then they back riots that end in the police being cursed and hurt. Are police unions not part of this loving brotherhood that they promote? If unions can‘t compete on a level playing field then they don’t deserve to exist. Members need to stop being sheep and stand for the good of our nation!

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  • marcus defey
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:03pm

    Isnt it amazing that the Pro Choice party doesnt want Pro Choice on weather or not to pay union dues. Its all about power and money.

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    • workingclassguy
      Posted on January 4, 2012 at 1:06pm

      After looking at your spelling and grammar I understand why you are from a rtw state.

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  • rienheart
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 1:52pm

    Swampy, your premis is faulty. If you are a right to work State, you will not lose jobs to other states that become right to work states, you will gain jobs, because when other states become right to work states, they will have better economies which will mean more jobs for them, which allow them to buy more products from your state and allow you to buy more products from their state. Higher tides lift all boats, unless your boat has holes in it, bleeding money and allowing the water to enter (The Unions).

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    • sWampy
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:01pm

      I guess, but it’s sure easier to get a car plant, helicopter plant, or a group of lignite gasification plants when they don’t have to worry about unions here, and they do elsewhere.

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    • rienheart
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:07pm

      Swampy, That‘s what I’m saying. Right to work States are AWESOME. They lift all other States that are Right to Work States, and leaves the Union States in the Outhouse (in the Hole)

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    • JRook
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:14pm

      Actually your premise is faulty and has been the same argument that supported “free trade” agreements that allowed corporations to exploit cheap labor in developing countries. Without some form of minimum wage attached to those trade agreements workers on both sides get screwed. On the developing side the workers get “jobs” but inadequate pay to improve their situation significantly and not enough to purchase goods from the US. Workers in the US get screwed because, as we have seen from the mid 1980′s we are in a wage race to the bottom. After the developing country purchases the necessary equipment to make factories the agreement quickly turns into a trade deficit situation for the US. All boats only go up when the workers have enough income to consume products on both sides. The implementation of these “free trade” agreements is one of the primary drivers behind the concentration of wealth which is the real factor that is depressing consumption and economic growth. The wealthy do not create jobs, they simply invest, as do equity funds and union pension plans, in businesses which satisfy such demand. And they only do it based on a ROI, which has been artificially high given the delta between price and the reduction in wage costs achieved through such exploitation. The result is the economic stagnation N. America and Europe finds itself in today. The notion that accelerating the race to the wage bottom will be beneficial is nonsensical. Lower wages lower demand.

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    • hauschild
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:25pm

      @JROOK

      It seems from you comment that you feel “minimum wage” jobs are something people “aspire” to or and end all, be all – when in all actuality, these types of jobs are meant to be temporary or supplemental, as workers gain education and skills and eventually move up and out of that bracket.

      I am concerned that you feel American workers are “owed” something because they’re American. That’s dangerous – that begins to get in the area of the “entitlement” mentality, which has pretty much ruined this country.

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    • rienheart
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:25pm

      JROOK, Stay in your Union State. We in the Right to work States will keep doing what we do. It has already been proven which States are drawing businesses and which States are Bleeding Businesses and Residents too. Look around you for the proof. Just open your eyes for the truth.

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  • Deep_Thoughts
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 1:51pm

    I’ve been in 2 unions, (UFCW, and SIU) and both are destroying their respective industries with over regulation and strong-arm tactics. it doesnt help that one political party is completely in the tank for unions.

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  • Rickfromillinois
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 1:50pm

    The unions are not concerned about creating jobs, they are concerned about keeping their power. If it was proven beyond any doubt that going to a right to work state would create 500,000 new jobs in Indiana, the unions would be against it. Their constant claims of protecting the middle class and the working man is pure b.s.. The Democrats are in the pockets of the unions and will back them 100%.

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    • barber2
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 3:15pm

      Democrats and their best buds, public employees unions , are financial leeches for tax payers who have no say in the “deals” that get made by these guys. Latest form of Taxation Without Representation…

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  • MeteoricLimbo
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 1:39pm

    Methinks the unions have kind of sunk their own ship. There was a time and place for them but they seem a tad on the top heavy side these days.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 1:53pm

      Ever try to fire a public employee union member? You’ll have a better chance at going three rounds with Mike Tyson in his prime.

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  • barber2
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 1:38pm

    Similar to the Wisconsin Walkout ? Since when can tax paid legislators be allowed to “walk-out?” Someone needs to check their state constitution . Democrats in Wisconsin set the stage for our country wide Occupies in Democrat controlled cities and now this “ Run Away Legislator” trick is getting an Indiana re-do ? Time to take counter measures. ( For starters: No work, no pay.) Is this grounds for a re-call ? Or is just another Democrat attempt to bankrupt states like the cities with their Occupies ? And to use their union mob / bully tactics ?

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    • GUNNSUP
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 4:15pm

      Good Luck Governor Daniels…BUST the unions. They sure as hell screwed up the thousands of new jobs with the new Boeing plant in South Carolina

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  • bhelmet
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 1:31pm

    I have no problem with unions, however, if it takes 51% to get in – it should take 51% to get out. The sooner people realize they can collectively bargain whether in right-to-work state or not – the less need for unions there will be. Besides, I would rather be in on the negotiations than have someone else do it for me.

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  • sWampy
    Posted on January 3, 2012 at 1:25pm

    As someone from Mississippi, I hate to see more states go right to work, if they do, it means more jobs for them, and less for us. Mississippi’s job market is exploding thanks to the fact we are a right to work state.

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    • wboehmer
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 1:34pm

      Better get used to it, SWAMPY!

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    • Obama Snake Oil Co
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 1:42pm

      So has NC, the only problem we have in our state are all the turds the past one hundred years of democrat controlled government. Our gas tax went up four cents. Our democrat Governor vetoed the withdrawl of the tax….

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    • sWampy
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 1:46pm

      I guess, if all the manufacturing jobs leave the north again and wealth migrates back naturally to the south, the north will just come take it again anyway. ;-/

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    • Stoic one
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 1:48pm

      Swampy, sadly for Ohio the unions won this past November…. for the pubic sector

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    • Stoic one
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 1:50pm

      ER….I meant public…yea that’s it….

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    • sWampy
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 1:53pm

      Mississippi is fixing to shine, we won’t be last in any numbers for long, we have republicans in charge of both houses, and all state wide offices, except AG. If we only had the AG’s office, currently we have that crook constantly fighting against the citizens of the state.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on January 3, 2012 at 2:23pm

      stoic one The public union problem will take care of itself soon,they’ll bankrupt kalifornia real soon and hopefully we can get rid of all public unions,ie they’ll die off from too much debt.

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