Indiana Official Fired After Personal Tweets Suggested Police Use Live Ammo on Wisc. Protesters
- Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:06pm by
Meredith Jessup
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A deputy attorney general for the state of Indiana has been fired after engaging in a Twitter debate with the liberal blog site Mother Jones over how to manage the thousands of protesters swarming the state capitol in Wisconsin.
After a Mother Jones staffer tweeted a false report that riot police might sweep demonstrators out of the Wisconsin capitol building Saturday, he received a “chilling” response from a seemingly random source. Twitter user JCCentCom responded that the police should “use live ammunition” in trying manage the burgeoning protest crowds.
Mother Jones blogger Adam Weinstein then engaged in a back-and-forth Twitter conversation in which JCCentCom condemned demonstrators as “political enemies” and “thugs” who were “physically threatening legally elected officials.” When Weinstein urged his followers to report JCCentCom to Twitter officials, he reportedly responded by calling the blogger a “typical leftist.”
As it turns out, “JCCentCom” is actually the Twitter account of Jeff Cox, an Indiana deputy attorney general. Weinstein writes:
As one of 144 attorneys in that office, Jeff Cox has represented the people of his state for 10 years. And for much of that time, it turns out, he’s vented similar feelings on Twitter and on his blog, Pro Cynic. In his nonpolitical tweets and blog posts, Cox displays a keen litigator’s mind, writing sharply and often wittily on military history and professional basketball. But he evinces contempt for political opponents—from labeling President Obama an “incompetent and treasonous” enemy of the nation to comparing “enviro-Nazis” to Osama bin Laden, likening ex-Labor Secretary Robert Reich and Service Employees International Union members to Nazi “brownshirts” on multiple occasions, and referring to an Indianapolis teen as “a black teenage thug who was (deservedly) beaten up” by local police. A “sensible policy for handling Afghanistan,” he offered, could be summed up as: “KILL! KILL! ANNIHILATE!”
On Sunday, Mother Jones contacted Cox through his work email, requesting clarification of his comments and their context. According to Weinstein, Cox responded, “For ‘context?’ Or to silence me? All my comments on twitter & my blog are my own and no one else’s. And I can defend them all.”
“[Y]ou will probably try to demonize me,” he added, “but that comes with the territory.”
Mother Jones then notified the state attorney general‘s office of Cox’s comments. Bryan Corbin, a spokesman for the AG‘s office condemned Cox’s statements as “inflammatory” and promised “an immediate review” of the issue.
“We do not condone any comments that would threaten or imply violence or intimidation toward anyone,” Corbin said.
“Individuals have the First Amendment right to post their own personal views in online forums on their own time,” Corbin wrote to the blog site, “but as public servants, state employees also should strive to conduct themselves with professionalism and appropriate decorum in their interactions with the public.”
By Wednesday afternoon, the state office announced Cox no longer worked there. In a statement, Corbin confirmed that Cox had lost his job:
Today the Indiana Attorney General’s Office announced that Deputy Attorney General Jeffrey Cox is no longer employed by this agency.
The Indiana Attorney General’s Office conducted a thorough and expeditious review after “Mother Jones” magazine today published an article attributing private Twitter postings and private blog postings to Cox.
Civility and courtesy toward all members of the public are very important to the Indiana Attorney General’s Office. We respect individuals’ First Amendment right to express their personal views on private online forums, but as public servants we are held by the public to a higher standard, and we should strive for civility.
Cox’s case raises a thought-provoking question: should government employees be held to “higher standards” when it comes to free speech? Is it fair to fire someone for comments they made in a non-official capacity?






















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Comments (126)
Browncoat359
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:05pmI went through his twitterstream earlier today after I first heard aboutthis and to be honest this yutz may be a Republican but he doesn‘t come off as a conservative and I don’t think he’s much of Hoosier either. I couldn‘t see anything he siad that was overly inflamatory but judging from his tweets he seems like he’s just an ass anyway so no loss.
Report Post »Phil E. Stine
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 7:01pmHe is a lawyer….nuff said
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:03pmRough day, eh Tea Baggers? heh heh heh . . . too good!
DashRipRock
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:13pmYou are way to fond of the term Tea ******
makes one wonder
I would like to point out
that is is better to be a ********* than a Tea Baggeeee
and guess who got Tea Bagged this last election.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA
Report Post »moonpeace
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:14pmBetter a ********* than a bone smoker!
Report Post »azblazen
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 7:44pmYou progresives crack me up. You get your talking points, throw it at the wall and hope sticks. We know your Mom is still putting you to bed a night, asking when the hell your to get a job and move out?
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 8:33pmDOMA/Walker’s troublemakers/“live ammo” from the Dep AG in Indiana / . . . all in one day! Trust me, I’m not your biggest problem. No wonder you’re whining about a camera getting slapped. You folks really need to butch up a little bit. You’re starting to look more and more gay. Maybe you should borrow Walker’s bat.
Face it, you’re on the wrong side of America. And the fact that you need to defend these idiots is proof enough that you have no principles, you have only anger. Tell you what, when you finally grow a pair, I’ll fly you out to Cali for a real good time.
Report Post »mrclean
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 9:05pmOoooh Dash, you’re in rare form today! :D
Report Post »grannyjojo
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:55pmThe man shouldn’t have said that. Online does not equate with personal. As a person who works for the government it was unacceptable and he should have been fired. But whats good for the goose is good for the gander also. ANYBODY who talks like that, dem, repub or tea party where it can be heard, repeated, copy and pasted or anything like that deserves to be fired
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:53pmCongratulations, folks. Well done. Lead by example. Character matters. Celebrate American exceptionalism. Stand up and be counted as an ignorant GENUINELY violent tea bagging candy-ass half-a-man fake patriot.
Adios, Tea Party. Hello liberal domination.
moonpeace
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:19pmYou know I bet you would prefer being a likeable person. It’s good to have friends.
Report Post »moonpeace
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:21pmDawg of god…You know I bet you would prefer being a likeable person. It’s good to have friends…
Report Post »sybilll
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:15amSorry Dawg, but, you will not see power again for generations. You shot your wad with The One, and he brought this country to it’s knees. Won’t happen again, until a new generation of young people have been indoctrinated at our schools and universities. For now, in 2012, farewell!
Report Post »CrackerSmurf
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:49pmI’m tired of the left. Everyone is tired of the left. To be an elected official tweeting such stupid things is beyond moronic. Albeit I agree with the sentiment. Doesn’t make it right and keeping it in is probably the best option. Fluff the unions.
Report Post »mrclean
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 9:02pmQuestion: Why was he reported by Mother Jones? I’ve read worse stuff from lefties who never get reported. The Mother was looking to nail a conservative me thinks.
Report Post »rabblechat
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:47pmAnother victim of political correctness.
http://www.rabblechat.com
Report Post »DashRipRock
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:46pmok ill post it again because I dont see what was wrong with it.
Public Officials who drink Alcohol
SHOULD NOT HAVE TWITTER ACCOUNTS
What was wrong with that statement?
Report Post »Phil E. Stine
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:58pmNothing, unless you dont like truth…
Report Post »GODBLESSOURCOUNTRY
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:46pmNot saying what he did was right – but it seems like we can have no blemishes while the Progressives have a face full.
BTW – isn’t Cox an elected official? Wouldn’t he have to be recalled or something to that effect? Heck if it’s that easy to just fire elected officials, why isn’t Obama gone?
Report Post »Phil E. Stine
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:56pmAppointment
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:46pmOne good thing about the teachers being out of school. Is that they can’t screw up our kids minds anymore than they already have. But having said that. They aren’t worth a bullet. Let keep on showing their stupidity and ranting and raving like the little kids they are. Like I said, I am sure glad that I don’t have to depend on UNIONS for a job.
Report Post »DashRipRock
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:45pmWhy did they pull my second post?
Report Post »moonpeace
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:09pmI don’t know. sometimes they just go out there to never never land. Or maybe some internet cop didn’t like what you said.
Report Post »moonpeace
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:13pmCould it be Post Traumatic Stress Disorder?
Report Post »Phil E. Stine
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:55pmGetting a lot of that recently Dash. I am beginning to wonder if this site is safe, or if it is a spiders web for the left.
Report Post »GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:09amThis site is a “Controlled Discussion” format. The backers apparently want the “Discourse” to follow a certain line that benefits their Agenda, whatever that is. Not too far right, not too far left, and DEFINITELY NO REALITY ALLOWED, that is just too inflamatory. I’d bet the ranch, that it all goes back to dollars and cents. They don’t want the balloon to really go up, they wont be selling anybody anything after that happens.
Report Post »missy8s
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:41pmSeriously, why in the world would anyone in public office have a twitter account?
Report Post »Phil E. Stine
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:54pmFor the same stupid reason that they go on the “View”. Self promotion.
Report Post »simple thought
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:37pmstupid is as stupid dose…………
Report Post »he got fired……… the others on the left get to request raises……..
2012 cant get here soon enough?????????
and we are in a depression………
every time obama opens his mouth, i get depressed…
RustyElbows
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:37pmBad move. He should have known that conservatives are held to a different standard than liberals.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 9:35pmWhat liberal political appointees do you know of who have advocated massacring peaceful demonstrators and been allowed to keep their positions?
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 9:37pmWhat liberal political appointees do you know of who have advocated massacring peaceful demonstrators and been allowed to remain in office?
Report Post »Protege
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:32pmConsidering what we have heard fro the left “Assassinate George Bush” “Death to Chris Christie” “Punish your opponents” “Get bloody” “Someone should shoot Palin the way she shoots caribou”, etc etc ad nausea:
Report Post »Who cares WHAT he said? They don’t get punished. Why should one man be punished for something he said when no one else is? Only political motivated? F@*k them. I’d sue for my job back if I was him.
mrclean
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 8:55pmDitto. And he probably will.
Report Post »the iceman
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:31pmWho even bothers with Mother Jones anymore? What a waste!
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:42pmMessyNBC does
Report Post »moonpeace
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:11pmIf we even know who Mother Jones is then we have a problem.
Report Post »jb1972
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:30pm“Individuals have the First Amendment right to post their own personal views in online forums on their own time,” Corbin wrote to the blog site, “but as public servants, state employees also should strive to conduct themselves with professionalism and appropriate decorum in their interactions with the public.”
Start monitoring all the tweets that come from Dems that are AWOL. Fight fire with fire!
Report Post »thomas242007
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:25pmWell i guess that was the wrong thing to say now wasnt it?
Report Post »ares338
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:23pmYou cannot always say what you think.
Report Post »moonpeace
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:04pmOh yes you can say whatever you are thinking. Just be prepared for the consequences that might follow. There are consequences to every decision we make, sometimes positive and sometimes negative. So you can say what you feel like saying, but we better be prepared for the outcome.
Report Post »EP46
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:19pmApparently you can say ”The police acted stupidly’ without having any facts, and keep your job.
Report Post »OytheGreat
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 7:05pmWho would actually think that? There’s not a single cell of my brain that thinks using “live ammunition” on protesters is okay.
This guy should be loudly condemned by all conservatives.
Report Post »Kisha
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:21pmAsk the question that needs to be asked: Who’s side is this man really on? *ponders*
Report Post »Phil E. Stine
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:51pmExactly Kisha!
Report Post »RN MOM
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:21pmOnly the left are allowed to use violent threats to nudge people. Who got their play book?
Report Post »Grumpy old Flight Nurse
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:49pmWell Said.
Report Post »spikehof01
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 11:41pmCan‘t believe that anyone can’t just have some fun with discouse – someone can always take anything and make it into some horrid thouoght or meaning – now we all know that it would be an extremely rare instance for anyone to be fool enough to mean a literal translation for those ugly words – that’s the poiint of the ugliness – just get the protesters out of the Capitol..Just so you all know Police, and other Security ALWAYS loead up with live ammo when they are at work – firing this guy demonstrates a lack of rational thought by his boss and should never have happened. Just a little note in the file to show he was “talked to” would have been sufficient.. That’s all a Union Member would get – 2.5 years larter after all the hearings…
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:17pmYes, but where would we start if we got rid of them – Frances Fox Piven, the sheriff in AZ, congressmen calling for blood in the streets, and the list goes on…..
Report Post »What Cox did is unacceptable and they did what needed to be done. Too bad it’s a double standard.
Venom
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:16pmSomebody is in trouble…..
Report Post »StuntDrivin4U
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:14pmThings such as this shouldnt be said on either side. In fact there should be no sides, just those who want freedom and those who do not!
Report Post »etetetet
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:39pmUh – that is two sides :)
Report Post »StuntDrivin4U
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:42pmyou know what I mean ;)
Report Post »etetetet
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:50pmI do – I wish they let us put the emoticons on this site – that’s why I put the smiley characters afterward. Just teasing. Peace
Report Post »Lucifers Hammer
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:23pmUh…the left doesn’t want freedom. They want chaos to over throw freedom. And you know if the tables were reversed, the lib governor would have already ordered the national guard to fire on the Tea Party protestors…even though they wouldn’t have all the “hateful rhetoric” signs the media lets the left parade around with no comment.
The left only publicly derides the evil that bubbles in their hearts. Need proof. Read the signs in WI. It says it all.
Report Post »Arminianism
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:14pmSounds like a good idea to me, whats the problem? ;)
Report Post »Resolved
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:29pmI realize you’re teasing, but I’m using your comment to weigh in here.
I think the problem is this : the use of live ammunition on protestors would go against everything we believe in as Americans. We’re supposed to engage in civil debate, not violently shut down opposing views (although it’s debatable whether or not left believes this). The story makes it unclear as to whether this was meant in jest, or if he was suggesting firing into the air to scare people off, or if he actually meant firing ON the protestors with live ammunition, but any way you look at it, such a suggestion is kind of a no-no.
Should he have been fired? While the idea of one’s private life and public life being related seems undesirable, the fact of the matter is we represent the organizations that employ us. But this brings back old memories, specifically of NPR firing Juan Williams, though they alleged many things, it seemed clear the reason was that he was not representing their agenda the way they wanted. Obviously the conservative view point (even a moderate one) is not something NPR wants associated with its name. For all the flack lefists give Fox News, Fox has liberals on it’s channel regularly and even some in its employ, so I find such an act in the face of left wing treatment of Fox News somewhat reprehensible. The question I’m struggling with in answering this question, it seems, is this: Are these two events comparable?
Anyone want to help me out?
Report Post »Arminianism
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:41pmI don‘t know if I’d really compare the 2 firings that you mentioned. I don’t believe this man should of been fired for this comment alone. I don’t think most people get the consequences that can happen from posting comments like these online. They just think of it as chatter around the water cooler. My guess is that he was just joking about the live ammo. Now him and his family will be greatly affected by his loss of his job, for a harmless joke. Thats just how I see it at least. People need to lighten up these days.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:21pm@Resolved ~
Love your analytical thinking.
What made me do a doubletake was the fact that this moron was a deputy attorney general for the State of Illinois and made a statement like that.
Sure, he has the right to say such things, but the State of Illinois does not have to condone what one of their employees says and felt that he could take his extremism somewhere else, where potential dangers to society would appreciate him. (He will probably go to work for Rahm Emanuel.)
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:30pmShowtime,
Pssssst…….. next state over. Indiana, not Illinois.
Report Post »Dale
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:46pmIn a word: NO. Williams represented NPR on a part time basis. This AG represented the state. Williams did not advocate violence, the AG did: he didn’t say to shoot blanks; he said LIVE AMMO. There is only one reason to use LIVE AMMO.
Report Post »popwireless
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:58pmPeople Against the Rude Next Article Pop In – PARNAPI pronounced PARNAPEE
We can’t use live ammo because we would destroy our computers.
I hate that thing!
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
(P.S. I do not own a gun, don’t want to own a gun, and I love flowers, bees, birds and trees but I HATE this pop-in)
Report Post »Xcori8r
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 7:03pmFrom a political correctness perspective, live ammunition is a no-no unless it is a Tea Party demonstration.
But rubber bullets, bean bags, tear gas, water cannons, nets, billy clubs, projected audio, tasers, pepper spray, stink bombs, bull whips, cattle prods and the like are just fine.
Would advocating the Soylent Green front loader crowd control method be a firing offense as well?
Report Post »Arminianism
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 10:17pmThe guy was just on the local news here in Indy. He said that he was absolutely joking and didn’t expect anyone to take him seriously. Dumb to say regardless but I don’t think he should have lost his job.
At least he was actually working and not running off to resorts in neighboring states eh??
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:49amXCOR
Bwaney Fwank just had his head explode you got him so hot with your whips and prods talk
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 6:25pmResolved – the thing that scares me is the fact that there are wingnuts walking among us who really would believe that the Deputy Attorney General was serious and would take it as a green light to go out and shoot somebody.
Yeah, I know that most of us would do the “Say, what????!!!” routine, but there are people who lack serious judgment skills – the woman who called 9-1-1 over cold McDonald fries comes to mind – as does the woman who destroyed the office of a towing company while a reporter was there for another story.
Finally, I have some questions about the character of someone who would actually tweet something like that to the general public at large. And apparently, the State’s Attorney General does, too.
Report Post »DashRipRock
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:13pmOk Ill say it
DUMBASS
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:23pmHow does it stack up against this :
Report Post »http://www.theblaze.com/stories/dem-rep-tells-union-members-you-need-to-get-a-little-bloody-when-necessary/
Think4yourself
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:23pm“”Individuals have the First Amendment right to post their own personal views in online forums on their own time,” Corbin wrote to the blog site”….but we fired him anyway.
http://www.unsalvageable.org
Report Post »cnsrvtvj
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:31pmThat sums it all up Dash. What the heck was this guy thinking? I am amazed everytime something like this happens. How do these people think that social networking is somehow a private conversation?
http://www.donsmithshow.com – see the lesson in civility video
Report Post »leftiesaredangerous
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:35pmI think DASH got right.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:38pmHey did you guys notice Obama’s speech (besides the fact that he preempted Glenn) Obama NEVER ONCE looked straight into the camera…did you notice that? It’s like he HAD to give the speech to cover his *ss…not because he was “addressing” the American public…very disrespectful behavior! What’s up then? Pretty certain we’ll find out…..EVENTUALLY…God how I appall that man!
Report Post »etetetet
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:41pmAgree – and with another post – we shouldn’t always say what we think.
Report Post »It’s like an Ethics issue – Just because you COULD, Should you…….
Taquoshi
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:46pmTo: Think4yourself
Various professions have codes of ethics that one agrees to when one takes their oaths of office or assumes the responsibility for that profession, (i.e. lawyers and doctors). Having a lawyer “tweet” that live ammo be used on protesters is HIGHLY unethical and an embarrassment to the Indiana State Attorney’s Office. A deputy STATE attorney general should know that, unless he got his law degree from Bradlee‘s or Caldor’s.
For some odd reason, people broadcast their wildest thoughts on Twitter and then are shocked – SHOCKED – to find out that actions have consequences. The Columbia fellow who commented on the female news reporter who was sexually assaulted in Egypt comes to mind. And I hope that those wonderful models of civility who have been tweeting encouragements for someone to assassinate the Governor of Wisconsin get a friendly visit from the local FBI agents. (”We from the government and we’re here to help.”) I hear they have some wonderfully attractive wrist jewelery. They probably even have thumb cuffs, so the perps can’t tweet on the way to the station. Isn’t that special?
Report Post »ForgivenWretch
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 5:53pmWell, Republican’s usually have the offender step down. Dems will cover, spin, and ride the wave to make sure their‘s doesn’t loose his job….and they tend to get less flack from it. Remember Reid’s racist comments about OB or just as CHEEZWHIZ pointed out?
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:19pm@Dash
Report Post »Would that be the french pronounciation of Doom Ahhz?
pajamash
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:25pmNow, if he was a union member he would have someone doing everything to keep his sorry ass in his job.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:28pmAbsolutely wrong on his part! Just as I would suggest for someone on the left saying the same thing, Jeff Cox should have the book thrown at him (proverbially speaking).
Report Post »rpp
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:46pmAdvocating or supporting violence, from the left or right, must not be tolerated. while it is true there is a double-standard in that lefties advocate violence while (generally) falsely accusing the right of the very things they actually say and do, that DOES NOT justify or excuse Cox’s actions. Advocating violence must not be tolerated.
Report Post »Phil E. Stine
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:47pmI agree Dash, this guy is a dumbass. We need to weed-out the bad apples BEFORE they do.
We are very serious about ending corruption, and that starts in our own house FIRST.
Report Post »Red Meat
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:47pmDudes a prophet if you ask me.
Report Post »popwireless
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 6:52pmWell then let’s carry this through. Any protester in Indiana that yells an obscenity, a nasty comment, or displays uncivil behavior must lose his job. The Indiana Attorney General has opened a can of worms here. By the way, is this person a Democrat or a Republican? So far the civility ratio is not looking too good for the left.
And then I have to say to this guy with 10 years service, a practicing attorney, etc. You made it harder for anyone to vehemently disagree. Now any left-leaning person can insert their political prejudice into any employment situation and get away with termination – at least until the Supreme Court deals with this one.
We ALL must do as Glenn Beck suggested and examine ourselves. We know the truth has no agenda. Fanatics on the left (or on the right) do not have the truth on their side. Stand behind the truth Stick to the truth. Let the truth guide your words. Understand that if you deviate the left or far right may do their best to destroy you.
Report Post »DavidInStLouis
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 7:23pmWhat an idiotic comment from Jeff Cox!
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 8:36pmSHOWTIME – doing your best Fox News impersonation I see . . . using “State of Illinois” instead of Indiana, where this bozo lives. You know, you really have to be a bit more subtle in your pathetic dissembling if you expect to get a call from Roger Ailes. Here’s your problem, you used “State of Illinois” twice. No one talks like that – even once.
So, rest assured you have confirmed the fact that you have no interest in the truth and no claim to character. Kinda renders all of your opinions moot. Well done. Hope it was worth it.
Amateur.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on February 23, 2011 at 9:29pmHey Dawg, in your attempt top sound all tough and intelligent you replied to the wrong post and instead turned your “amateur” moniker into a self fulfilling prophecy. Hows that karma feel? Kinda brings ya back to the whole glass house throwing stones axiom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyr-UHHMIrY
Just for you Dawg
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:42pmTo popwireless -
Your Reductio ad absurdum (Latin: “reduction to the absurd”) is a form of argument in which a proposition is disproven by following its implications logically to an absurd consequence takes this to the outer limits of the universe. The right to gather and the right to protest are included in the First Amendment. Most of the protestors are NOT lawyers and do not work for the State Attorney’s Office.
However, a Deputy Attorney General is an officer of the court. For a Deputy Attorney General to advocate murder violates the oath of office he took when he was sworn to the bar.
Rule 22. Oath of Attorneys
Upon being admitted to practice law in the state of Indiana, each applicant shall take and subscribe to the following oath or affirmation:
“I do solemnly swear or affirm that: I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Indiana; I will maintain the respect due to courts of justice and judicial officers; I will not counsel or maintain any action, proceeding, or defense which shall appear to me to be unjust, but this obligation shall not prevent me from defending a person charged with crime in any case; I will employ for the purpose of maintaining the causes confided to me, such means only as are consistent with truth, and never seek to mislead the court or jury by any artifice or false statement of fact or law; I will maintain the confidence and preserve inviolate the secrets of my client at every peril to myself; I will abstain from offensive personality and advance no fact prejudicial to the honor or reputation of a party or witness, unless required by the justice of the cause with which I am charged; I will not encourage either the commencement or the continuance of any action or proceeding from any motive of passion or interest; I will never reject, from any consideration personal to myself, the cause of the defenseless, the oppressed or those who cannot afford adequate legal assistance; so help me God. (http://www.in.gov/judiciary/rules/ad_dis/index.html#_Toc279056611)
There are no “ifs”, no “ands” and no “buts” in the oath. Two very interesting clauses here:
– ” I will not counsel or maintain any action, proceeding, or defense which shall appear to me to be unjust“ Apparently this lawyer views firing upon unarmed protestors as ”just”.
“I will not encourage either the commencement or the continuance of any action or proceeding from any motive of passion or interest” Once again, the idea of using live ammo – or any ammo at all on unarmed protestors is okay with this guy.
The attorney has the perfect right to protest, the perfect right to express his views. It’s allowed by the First Amendment. However, there is no guarantee that there will not be consequences for the words that come out of the man’s mouth.
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