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Indonesian Muslims Continue to Forbid Christians From Building Church on Street with Islamic Name

Indonesia: Mayor Forbids Christians From Building Church on Street with Islamic Name

In what is being called a national test of religious tolerance, Muslims in Indonesia’s West Java province are continuing to block Christian worshipers from building a church, namely because the future edifice would stand on a street with an Islamic name.

As The Blaze reported last month, local mayor Diani Budiarto is refusing to comply with a supreme court ruling to allow the congregation to build its church, choosing to defer to the wishes of the Muslim majority.

The national ombudsman has reportedly given the mayor two weeks to implement the supreme court’s decision and allow the church to be built, a move that has not stopped protestors from decrying the Christian worshipers’ plans.

“Why does a church need to build in a street with an Islamic name? Why do they need to build a church in an Islamic neighborhood?” one protester asked.

However, in a country where the dominant religion is Islam such as Indonesia, there are bound to be more neighborhoods and streets are bound to bear Islamic names than not.

Meanwhile, the province’s Christians still must resort to hold services in the open air, protected by police.

Step Vaessen with Al Jazeera delivers the report from West Java:

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  • EODGhost
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 9:12am

    The religion of peace strikes again

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    • loriann12
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 9:26am

      Why do Muslims build a church in Christian neighborhoods? So that the Christians don’t have move into their own neighborhoods. then they would be called racist. Muslims are the bigots, because the tolerate no one but their own religion.

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    • Gold Coin & Economic News
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 9:41am

      The Islamic world knows their mission, does the west?

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    • J4Y
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 9:42am

      It would be nice if the western hemisphere would halt ALL construction on noise pollutent mosques. LOL one can only dream….

      BTW Blaze, wheres the “UN: Credible evidence Iran working on nuke weapons” story?? and “Turkey navy to escort aid ships to Palestinians in Gaza” story??

      http://br0wn.biz

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    • B4B
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 10:43am

      So they’re NOT going to build a mosque at Ground Zero?

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 10:52am

      I learned ALL I NEED to KNOW about islam on 9-11-01!!

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    • J4Y
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 11:35am

      B4B
      Developers of the mosque near Ground Zero are applying for a $5 million federal grant which is reserved for the redevelopment of lower Manhattan. So i’d say the answer is “Yes”. Bit of a dry slap across America’s face to know tax money could be used to build the eyesore!

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    • Welcome Black Carter
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 1:53pm

      Why do muslims migrate to Christian countries????

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    • WILLIAM E.
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 2:18pm

      What knocks my socks off is how many people buy into the crap that it is a religion of peace. It does not fit in any civilized society while all others do.

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    • conservative510
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 2:27pm

      Islam = the single largest source of global instability in the history of planet earth. Look at the big picture people. Muhammed was a genocidal murderer. Muslims, you do not have a license to kill, given by your “god”. Accept salvation from your LORD JESUS CHRIST. The HOLY SPIRIT will show you the error of your ways and set you on a path to freedom and everlasting life.

      Ask a Christian to pray with you. Do it now!

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    • bioengineer
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 5:05pm

      Actually, their objects are peaceful, are they not? This is such a non-issue. This same type of thing happens every day in the USA, ever heard of zoning laws? Zoning issues in Indonesia are not our concern.

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    • fdmike
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 7:02pm

      every time i read an article about islam, someone always, 100% of the time, comments, “thats the religion of peace, at it again”….we know what they’re about, the horse has been beaten into oblivion. we understand. it is said to shine light on the absurdity of that statement that has been used by the libs. OK. Let it go people.

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    • CottonMPG
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 7:28pm

      I understand the reasoning in a way. Why do muslums need to build a mosque in a Christian country?

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    • FuturePresident
      Posted on September 4, 2011 at 1:13am

      Here’s a better question for the muslims. Why do you have to build a Mosque right near ground zero? It hasn’t even been a decade YET.

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    • one years food ration like glenn says
      Posted on September 4, 2011 at 7:36am

      “Why does a church need to build in a street with an Islamic name? Why do they need to build a church in an Islamic neighborhood?”
      The same reason you want to build a mosque a block away from the WTC..

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    • smartsoutherner53
      Posted on September 4, 2011 at 9:52pm

      Educate yourselves….Remember the Crusades???? Some of the same things are happening now. Islam is still trying to take over the WORLD!! If the Christians sit back….they will! And by the way……..how many people have you killed today that didn’t believe as you do?? Just sayin….

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  • TomFerrari
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:58am

    Yep, there’s that “tolerance” they demand for themselves at Ground Zero!!!

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 9:03am

      If you want respect, you give respect.
      If you want change in the world, you start by changing yourself.

      You might wanna remove the beam from your own eye before demanding the U.S. pick that mote out of its own at Ground Zero, where you MURDERED THOUSANDS of AMERICANS and now want to build a MONUMENT marking your “achievement”, just as you have done in country after country after country after country – you attack, destroy their prime landmarks, then build temples on top of those sites. Ground Zero, where you MURDERED THOUSANDS is just the next one.

      I find myself unable to pray for God to have mercy upon you. I know I should, but, I am not that strong.

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    • Tifn8r
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 9:12am

      Really? Is anyone surprised by this?
      You’re right MPeach- if you want it, give it – that’s the USUAL path
      Unfortunately, our politically correct liberal elites have decided that everyone should give them respect and treat them differently, give them special dispensation for their violence and terror, and suffer their attacks silently because they’re a “protected class” due to their dedication to their “religion”. (But don’t EVER suggest that devout Christians and their beliefs be respected – that’s hypocritical and bigoted and racist and hateful…)

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 10:30am

      Yo TomFerrari:
      I know what your talkin.
      This example makes it obvious what there faith is about.
      It IS a faith that is spread by the sword.

      The bible verse analogy doesn’t apply to them.
      It applies to believers.

      If you are not strong enough ,your awareness of this comes from God. He is letting you know that you need to bulk up.
      I know… got the same message!

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    • XScramblerX
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 11:53am

      If there is a mosque at ground zero, it will be removed once the country has been taken back by
      the American people. Once America is rid of these tyrants (socialist, muslim extremists, marxists etc.)
      the country can be restored to it’s splendid glory! Remember 1776 ! It’s time for TEA!

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    • meamerican
      Posted on September 4, 2011 at 8:55pm

      I was thinking the same thing!

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  • Hickory
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:53am

    Just more “In your face” from Muslims. They do what they damn well please and try to restrict the rest of the world. Our POTUS is just sooo afraid to offend them……. riiiight. He is one.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 9:01am

      So, you mean what good ol’ Americans are doing against mosques in Tennessee and New York? The difference here, of course, it that this is supposed to be the land of the free.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 9:06am

      So, how many of you actually watched the video? Note first that this is an Al Jazeera video. The supposedly evil Al Jazeera is bringing to light this persecution against Christians. Now, if you all had seen the video, you would see that the high court in Indonesia has ordered the church to be built–it’s just the small government mayor standing in its way. So really when all of you attack Islam for oppression, your just really mad at small town mayors throughout the Muslim world?

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 9:20am

      PPencil – there’s always someone like you who thinks he knows it all. Everyone is responding to Muslims not wanting Christians around their area. Court approved it, lets see if it really happens. And, by the way, Christians did not fly planes into any Muslims buildings killing 3000 people. Americans have a REASON for not wanting Muslims in our country. They all read the same Koran and Jihad is their mission.

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    • Charbet
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 10:04am

      Publius:
      But the muslims don’t want to assimilate, they want to take-over. They don’t want to hear our Church bells ringing, but they are allowed their call to prayer? They don’t like our concerts, should we stop them too? Are you good with that? Muslims can kill and maim Christians and Jews all over the world, now they are working on America. Are you really ready to live in the 6th century?

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    • Morris
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 10:21am

      But Dictator Barack Hussein Obama our Muslim-in-Chief,and Mayor Bloombergh are going to let
      the Muslims build a Mosque on the ASHES of were our two towers did stand in New York City!
      Also Christians cannot build a church in any Muslim country!
      Dictator Obama and the WhiteHouse are going to control the 9/11 Ceremonies in New York City,
      Obama will not let any Christian Religion or any Clergy speak at the 9/11 Ceremonies,and no one
      may say the words,Islam,Muslim,Jihad,Sharia-Law,Koran,Allah,or TERRORIST,Obama will not let
      anyone say any thing about the BARBARICE ISLAM-MUSLIM CULT OF BASTARDS THAT KILLED
      3,000 AMERICAN ON 9/11 ON OUR AMERICAN SOIL,AND SO “WE THE PEOPLE” CANNOT
      SAY A WORD ABOUT WHAT THESE BARBARIC MUSLIMS DID TO OUR AMERICANS?
      The control of this Dictatorship of Barack Hussein Obama our Muslim-in-Chief makes me sick,
      When in HELL ARE YOU GOING TO WAKE UP AMERICA?
      Dictator Obama and George Soros and The Muslim Brotherhood are all working together to over throw the United States Of America,George Soros is spending millions of his own money to Destroy our United States Of America!
      Do you think Obama is a MUSLIM?
      How about Obama Celebrating RAMADAN at the WH,3/Years in a row,and not Celebrating our American Christian Holiday,“OUR NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER”at the WH for 3/years in a row,Don’t this make you think just a little bit?

      The Biggest TERRORIST in our America,is sitting in our WhiteHouse,IMPEACH THIS MUSLIM
      DICTATOR,SAVE OUR AMERICA!

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    • XScramblerX
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:02pm

      Potus IS ONE OF THEM!
      WAKY WAKY!

      IT”S TIME FOR TEA!

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:55pm

      NHWinter,
      So, the dozen or so 9/11 hijackers and the few thousand extremist guerillas left have permanently soured you the roughly 1.5 Billion Muslims in the world? That’s just plain stupid. These people in this town an Indonesia did not actually fly planes into anything. They are just being bigoted, as are the anti-mosque people in the US.

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 4:58pm

      PubliusPencilman

      While it may be true that Indonesia doesn‘t yet abide by complete Sharia law the fact of the matter is like the churches in Egypt where the goverment doesn’t restrict churches (Yet) churches are attacked and set afire. It’s congregation falls prey to false accusations and physical attacks. As in Iran or Saudi Arabia where the Christian Church…. O thats right Christian Churches are non existent.

      So while you may defend The goverment who doesn’t deny the Church access to the physical site to build their house of worship. The ideology both politically will devour the goverment as it’s prophet stated goal and destroy the Church as soon as construction begins.

      DEFEND THAT!

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    • bioengineer
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 6:38pm

      PubliusPencilman is exactly right.

      @Steve, how much time have you spent in Indonesia? I’m curious what makes you such an authority. Indonesia has a population nearly the same size as the USA (240 million) spread across about 14,000 islands and 30+ states, each of which has their own various laws and culture. I’ve never been to Indonesia, but I know enough to not try and armchair quarterback their decisions, especially ones that have no effect on me whatsoever.

      What I do know though, as Pencilman points out, is that the same exact thing happens here in the USA. Every heard of zoning laws? Heck, what about the Mormons that were driven west, state after state after state? It is extremely common for a community or church to protest and restrict the construction of another. Evangelicals prevent Mormon temples from being built. Catholics prevent Baptist curches from being built. Atheists and liberals prevent any churches from being built. Mormons restrict alcohol in Utah. Radical Christians protest any mosque being built. And frankly there is nothing wrong with any of this per se. We were not originally meant to have religious and cultural homogeneity from sea to sea. States and cities were meant to be unique and independent. If the community in New York doesn’t want a mosque at ground zero, I have no problem with this, that’s their right. Likewise, I couldn’t care less about some Muslims in a particular neighborhood on a particular island of Indonesia.

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 6:40pm

      PubliusPencilman

      So one can only assume based on your post is that an ideology that is set on destroying our freedoms is perfectly free to do this? Really?

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 7:09pm

      bioengineer
      As I‘ve stated before and I’ll state it again, bioengineer is either an ignorant fool and a useful idiot for Islam or is a Muslim himself preforming taqiyya.. Here he tries (and fails) to show a comparison of christian denominations opposing other denominations from building a church while Churches in Egypt burn by the hands of Muslims. What a tool.

      First if you read my post I said “While it may be true that Indonesia doesn’t yet abide by complete Sharia law” Then you go on giving us a geography lesson as to prove my statement incorrect. (IDIOT) As to your statement that indonesia has no effect on the US. Yes this is true. Where in my post did I refer to this. Good God stop drinking and posting. My post clearly pointed out the evil of Islam and it’s direct conflict with any religion or political entity other then Islam.

      To those who truly don‘t understand the political ideology of Islam let me direct you to this site which clearly shows just how Muhammad’s commandment of Jihad and world wide caliphate is slowly becoming reality.

      Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat
      http://freemenow.wordpress.com/2010/06/29/slavery-terrorism-and-islam-the-historical-roots-and-contemporary-threat/

      Useful idiots will of course deny these facts and paint them as distorted right wing islamophobia web sites inciting racism and violence against such a peaceful and compassionate religion….

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:35pm

      PPencil – Call me stupid if that makes you feel better. Just as Obama said if push came to shove he would always stand with the Muslims. I believe all Muslim will react that way, it is their faith to dominate – women, the world. There may be very nice people in Indonesia, but if they stay with the political system of Islam, they will have to adhere to its laws. Enough said. We have good reason to be bigoted against Muslims in America and if you want to keep your head stuck in the sand, then do so. Kind of like the pot calling the kettle black.

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    • bioengineer
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 11:42pm

      @Steve, you are great at changing the subject. This article is about Indonesia and a zoning dispute and now we’re on Egypt and the Caliphate? Good giref. And given that you are an American passing judgement on a group of people you dont know in a country you know nothing about, you don’t consider similar examples in the USA relevant? LOL

      BTW, while it’s a completely different subject, you have no idea what the Caliphate actually is. Christendom has very similar concepts regarding the relationship between god and country.

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    • yahsdaughter
      Posted on September 4, 2011 at 4:34am

      agree 100% with you Morris…

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    • bioengineer
      Posted on September 4, 2011 at 1:13pm

      @Morris, in Abu Dhabi the government will pay for and build Christian churches if the congregation is large enough. There are tons of Christian churches in the UAE from Mormons to Catholics to Protestants. I have been in Christian churches in virtually every Muslim-majority country I’ve been to. There is even a small Jewish population that I saw in Yemen. And they even have Star of David markings outside their property in full view. Where are there more church burnings, in the Middle East or the USA? There have been literally thousands of church burnings in the USA. Still today there are generally dozens across the country on a monthly basis.

      Just go to news.google.com and search for church burnings.

      http://www.newswest9.com/story/15387346/man-pleads-guilty-to-burning-church-down-in-crane

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on September 4, 2011 at 2:03pm

      Yo Bioengineer &Pencilman:
      There is a verse in the bible (not to shove it at you) that says be slow to speak and quick to listen. Christians unfortunatly are guilty of to often not abiding by this, me included. Having said that, I know MANY missionaries in muslim countries and they must be VERY careful what they do and especially say. They could lose their lives. Muslims do not and will not play by the same set of rules. One hornet is not much of a threat in your back yard. An entire nest of hundreds changes that.

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    • bioengineer
      Posted on September 4, 2011 at 3:49pm

      @4truth2all, what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? The point, again, is that 1) We do the same thing here in the USA, so it’s rather hypocritical to criticise, and 2) We’re not Indonesian, it’s not our business, and that makes us even more hypocritical.

      BTW: I served as a Christian missionary for over 2 years overseas. It wasn’t a Muslim country, but Christians were in an extreme minority. I often saw missionaries from other Christian faiths make absolute arses out of themselves by doing things like driving around in a neighborhood and screaming from a loudspeaker mounted on a vehicle, telling people they‘re going to hell if they don’t repent, find Christ, yada, yada. These moonbats acheived little more than irritating the heck out of the locals and generating a lot of deep anti-Christian sentiment.

      After my missionary service I’ve lived extensively in the Middle East and come across Christian missionaries there as well. And the vast majority of the time I’ve seen these people lie and enter countries under very false pretenses so they could then blatantly disobey local laws and customs. By definition how can they be doing anything else? When it’s illegal to prosthelytize and they do it anyway, what do you expect? These self-righteous busy bodies do far more harm than good. They are a great hinderance to the spread of the gospel.

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 4, 2011 at 9:47pm

      bioengineer
      As I‘ve stated before and I’ll state it again, bioengineer is either an ignorant fool and a useful idiot for Islam or is a Muslim himself preforming taqiyya..

      You keep making my point time and time again.
      Thank you.

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 4, 2011 at 9:59pm

      Indonesia: Fatwa issued against movie that “pollutes the morality” of Muslims by promoting tolerance and dialogue
      The FPI is not new to threats. In recent weeks, FPI extremists attacked members of the Ahmadi community, a sect viewed as heretical by mainstream Muslims, in Makassar (southern Sulawesi).
      In a similar incident, Muslim extremists attack street vendors in Bandung (West Java) for selling alcoholic beverages.
      In the recent past, human rights activists have slammed the Indonesian government for doing nothing against extremists.
      President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has been especially targeted for criticism because of his failure to take decisive action to stem the rise of Islamists, who are now able to make any claim they want.
      Now, just before the end of Ramadan and Idul Fitri on Tuesday, extremists want to censor TV broadcasting.

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 4, 2011 at 10:01pm

      Indonesia: Acehnese Sharia police chief says lesbian couple must be beheaded and burned
      “Gay people should be thrown head first off high buildings and if not killed on hitting the ground, they should be then stoned to death.” – Minhaj al-Muslim (The Way of the Muslim)

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 4, 2011 at 10:08pm

      Indonesia: Islamic jihadist who smashed skull of member of heretical sect hailed as hero
      President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, who relies heavily on Islamic parties for support in parliament, has remained silent as hard-liners shuttered Christian churches, threw Molotov cocktails at one of their theology schools, and attacked worshippers and priests with knives and clubs as they headed to morning prayers.
      “Kill! Kill!” the crowd chanted. “Burn! Burn!”
      By the time a video camera was rolling, two men lay naked and lifeless in the mud. The attackers continued to hammer their bodies with bamboo sticks, each thud met with a cheer.
      Dani, wearing a black leather jacket and a white skull cap, was the most brutal. The 17-year-old smashed a rock repeatedly into the skull of Roni Pasaroni as the crowd yelled “Allahu Akbar” or God is Great….
      Will the Islamophobia never end?

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 4, 2011 at 10:11pm

      Indonesia: Four civil servants, including one non-Muslim, arrested for not fasting during Ramadan

      Bengkulu. Police in Bengkulu city in Sumatra have arrested four civil servants, including one non-Muslim, for not fasting.
      According to Bengkulu Police head Khairul Saleh, the four people were found eating in a restaurant during a sweep by authorities on Thursday.
      He added that police would continue their sweeps throughout the holy month to discourage civil servants from eating during the day.
      Civil servants were supposed to serve as an example during Ramadan, he said, even if they were not Muslim.

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 4, 2011 at 10:13pm

      Indonesia: Muslims torch two churches
      Will the Islamophobia never end? “Two Churches Torched in Indonesia,” from the Jakarta Globe, August 3 (thanks to Twostellas):
      Two homes used as churches were burned to the ground in Riau on Tuesday night, a report said.

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 4, 2011 at 10:16pm

      Like shootin fish in a barrel.

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    • HumbleMan
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 2:54am

      When the allegedly “good” muslims speak out against the atrocity of 9/11 and repudiate ‘theocracy” as forbidden by the 1st amendment, then perhaps we can believe there’s something decent in their “religion”. It’s a political movement, founded by a pedophile … nothing more.

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    • bioengineer
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 9:54am

      @Steve, Why is it that people like you can’t stay on one subject at a time? Your absolute hypocrisy and double-standard is pointed out and then you go off on some completely irrelevant tangent. Really, what moronic point are you trying to make? What is it specifically that you want to DO? Talk is cheap, so where is this all leading? Are you suggesting Muslims shouldn’t have Constitutional rights? Or should we go to war with Indonesia? If you want to discuss all these other incidents, start a new thread. I’m waiting for you to explain how a group of Muslims in Indonesia peacefully blocking the construction of a Christian church in a particular part of town through legal channels is any different than a group of Christians/Atheists (or whoever) in the USA peacefully blocking the construction of a Mormon/Christian/Muslim/Whatever church in a particular part of town through legal channels?

      You must justify why you condemn the people in Indonesia but not the people in New York or Tenesse? Say something specific. Don’t dance around giving all this other tripe to make Muslims look bad. We got that, you don’t like them. Why do you oppose Muslims building a mosque in Tennesee? Or NY or wherever? If it’s because you hate Muslims, say the words, “because I hate Muslims.”

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    • bioengineer
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 10:29am

      @Steve, also, just another point. Has it ever occured to you that maybe Muslims overseas are just as suspicious and fearfur of Christians as you are of them? Has it occured to you that maybe our actions have something to do with this? And when I say “our” actions I do mean things like Iraq and Afghanistan, but more than that, the SOF troops in 70+ other countries, US military bases in nearly every Middle Eastern country along with many dozens of countries in the pacific and Asia as well. I mean all the illegitimate dictators and monarchs that we help keep in power against the will of the people. I also refer to our behavior in international govt and diplomacy. The UN, along with other international groups supported almost entirely by the US, tries and successfully imposes various “green” energy laws/regulations on third world nations, negatively effecting their ability to develop. We also try to impose so-called “human rights” laws on them, things like abortion, promoting sex outside of marriage, or encouraging various rights for women. They also see independent “Christian” busy-body organizations that purport to be purely humanitarian aid organizations when really they’re trying to sneak into a country so they can covertly prosthelytize.

      The Islamic world is very suspicious of us, and for good reason. Lots of Muslims actually think 9/11 was an inside job. Just like lots of conservatives think Muslims are all secretly conspiring for a Caliphate. lol

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on September 5, 2011 at 11:03pm

      Yo Bioengineer:
      I was only adressing a point already made. I agree with you that we as Americans can be a little self righteous which I did allude to. The missionaries I know do not function as those you mention.

      What will you do when the US government says you can no longer speak the name of Christ. When Christ says to speak it (only speaking to what you said).

      As far as the tea in China… their nation, their laws, their right. Our nation, our laws, our right. We do not play by the same set of rules. fair or unfair.

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 6, 2011 at 4:46am

      bi-engineer as always you don’t disappoint.

      Why is it that people like you can’t stay on one subject at a time?
      The subject was Indonesia their laws, religious tolerance and Christian Churches.

      Are you suggesting Muslims shouldn’t have Constitutional rights? Or should we go to war with Indonesia?
      Point out where I suggested this? You really need to stop drinking when you post here. I’m embarrassed for you.

      I’m waiting for you to explain how a group of Muslims in Indonesia peacefully blocking the construction of a Christian church

      Indonesia: Muslims torch two churches
      “Two Churches Torched in Indonesia,” from the Jakarta Globe, August 3 (thanks to Twostellas):
      Two homes used as churches were burned to the ground in Riau on Tuesday night, a report said.

      You must justify why you condemn the people in Indonesia but not the people in New York or Tenesse
      Because people of the christian faith don’t burn down mosques as Muslims do to churches.

      If it’s because you hate Muslims, say the words, “because I hate Muslims.”
      I hate any ideology whose sole purpose is to destroy my way of life. Be it Communism, Buddhism, or Islam.

      By the way Tenesse is spelled Tennessee

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 6, 2011 at 4:49am

      bi-engineer

      Has it occurred to you that maybe our actions have something to do with this? And when I say “our” actions I do mean things like Iraq and Afghanistan,

      oooo I see they loved us before. Explain this genius.

      Jefferson would perhaps have been just as eager to send a squadron to put down any Christian piracy that was restraining commerce. But one cannot get around what Jefferson heard when he went with John Adams to wait upon Tripoli’s ambassador to London in March 1785. When they inquired by what right the Barbary states preyed upon American shipping, enslaving both crews and passengers, America’s two foremost envoys were informed that

      “it was written in the Koran, that all Nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon whoever they could find and to make Slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”

      Ambassador Abd Al-Rahman did not fail to mention the size of his own commission, if America chose to pay the protection money demanded as an alternative to piracy

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 6, 2011 at 4:52am

      Just like lots of conservatives think Muslims are all secretly conspiring for a Caliphate. lol

      Again you are the poster child for Islam of the useful idiot. You should start a fan club and be the President.

      Omar Ahmad, the cofounder and longtime Board chairman of the influential Hamas-linked Muslim Brotherhood front group known as the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), has said that “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.”

      “If only Muslims were clever politically, they could take over the United States and replace its constitutional government with a caliphate.” — prominent American Muslim leader Siraj Wahhaj, 2002

      The Muslim Brotherhood differs only in means, not in goal, from al-Qaeda. Its core beliefs center just as much around the establishment of a global caliphate. It works within existing Muslim nations so as to establish Islamic states, but ultimately hopes that those new Islamic states will unite into one large Islamic caliphate.

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 6, 2011 at 5:06am

      The sword (Jihad) must clear the way for the preaching and destroy those elements which limit mankind to living in a world of evil and chaos (62). This sword would be carried by a restored Caliphate based on the traditions of the Prophet. The Caliphate would be a leader the masses could trust, understand and follow. He would provide a simple message well suited to Muslims, not well schooled in traditional Muslim teachings. This message is liberating the Umma from its external enemies, the infidels and Jews (al-Zawahiri, 2001: part 11).

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 6, 2011 at 5:06am

      April 6, 2006 update: MEMRI makes available today an interview in Norway’s Dagbladet on Mar. 13, 2006 with Najm Al-Din Faraj Ahmad, the Iraqi Kurdish Islamist who goes by “Mullah Krekar,”
      Interviewer: “Is the goal to re-establish the Caliphate – the Islamic rule that was established by the Prophet?”
      Krekar: “Yes. Our Caliph is dead and we are orphans. Therefore we are fighting, like the Jews fought under David Ben-Gurion, for our own state, a state ruled by a true Islamic ruler.”
      Interviewer: “What borders should the Caliphate have?”
      Krekar: “It doesn’t matter. Things are born, and then they grow bigger. The essential thing is Islamic rule. That was why the West destroyed the Taliban’s rule in Afghanistan. They feared the Islamic state.”
      Interviewer: “Who should rule the new Caliphate?”
      Krekar: “It doesn’t have to be a cleric. A good human being is enough.”
      Interviewer: “Is bin Laden such a person?”
      Krekar: “Osama bin Laden and Ayman Al-Zawahiri are among several good people. Weren’t Jewish leaders also terrorists before they had their own state?”

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 6, 2011 at 5:07am

      May 10, 2006 update: James Brandon provides a fine overview in the Christian Science Monitor today of Hizb ut-Tahrir’s drive to re-establish the caliphate. Some excerpts:
      Hizb ut-Tahrir says that Muslims should abolish national boundaries within the Islamic world and return to a single Islamic state, known as “the Caliphate,” that would stretch from Indonesia to Morocco and contain more than 1.5 billion people. It’s a simple and seductive idea that analysts believe may someday allow the group to rival existing Islamic movements, topple the rulers of Middle Eastern nations, and undermine those seeking to reconcile democracy and Islam and build bridges between East and West.
      “A few years ago people laughed at them,” says Zeyno Baran, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute and the leading expert on Hizb ut-Tahrir. “But now that [Osama] bin Laden, [Abu Musab al-] Zarqawi, and other Islamic groups are saying they want to recreate the Caliphate, people are taking them seriously.”

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 6, 2011 at 5:08am

      Even more moderate Muslim groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt pay lip-service to the ideal of reestablishing the Caliphate, leaving less ideological space for Muslims who want to move toward Western models of democracy. “The Caliphate is a rallying point between the radicals and the more moderate Islamists,” says Stephen Ulph, a senior fellow at the Jamestown Foundation. “The idea of a government based on the Caliphate has a historical pedigree and Islamic legitimacy that Western systems of government by their very nature do not have.”
      But unlike Al Qaeda, Hizb ut-Tahrir believes it can recreate the Caliphate peacefully. Its activists aim to persuade Muslim political and military leaders that reestablishing the Caliphate is their Islamic duty. Once these leaders invite Hizb ut-Tahrir to take power – effectively staging a military coup – the party would then repeat the process in other countries before linking them up to form a revived Caliphate. …

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 6, 2011 at 5:09am

      Hizb ut-Tahrir promises that a revived Caliphate will end corruption and bring prosperity – though the group doesn’t say how. It will let Muslims challenge, and ultimately conquer, the West, its followers say. “The Muslim world has resources like oil but it lacks the leadership that will rule us by Islamic law and make this jihad that the whole world is afraid of,” says [Abdullah] Shakr, a Jordanian member of the group, who says the success of the Caliphate will also encourage more converts to Islam – eventually making the whole world Islamic. …
      “Islam obliges Muslims to possess power so that they can intimidate – I would not say terrorize – the enemies of Islam,” says Abu Mohammed, a Hizb ut-Tahrir activist. “In the beginning, the Caliphate would strengthen itself internally and it wouldn’t initiate jihad.”

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 6, 2011 at 5:10am

      “But after that we would carry Islam as an intellectual call to all the world,” says Abu Mohammed, a pseudonym. “And we will make people bordering the Caliphate believe in Islam. Or if they refuse then we’ll ask them to be ruled by Islam.” And after that? Abu Mohammed pauses and fiddles with his Pepsi before replying. “And if after all discussions and negotiations they still refuse, then the last resort will be a jihad to spread the spirit of Islam and the rule of Islam,” he says, smiling. “This is done in the interests of all people to get them out of darkness and into light.”

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    • bioengineer
      Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:32am

      @Steve, wow, 9 posts and you still didnt answer my questions. Let me make it easier for you…

      Would you suspend or otherwise limit the Constitutional rights of Muslims in the USA? Yes or No.

      Would you ban the construction of mosques in the USA? Yes or No.

      Do you support ban of mosque near ground zero? Yes or No.

      Do you support Christians banning, blocking construction of Mormon temples and churches? Yes or no.

      Do you think Christians should be able to build churches wherever they want, regardless of how the community feels? Yes or No.

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  • mossbrain
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:47am

    out Muslims out

    out Muslims out

    out DEMONS out

    out Muslims out

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    • one years food ration like glenn says
      Posted on September 4, 2011 at 7:44am

      @PUBICPENCILDICK.So really when all of you attack Islam for oppression, your just really mad at small town mayors throughout the Muslim world?<<< NO We do it because of things like 9/11. Fort Hood massacre, Christmas day bombing , the shoe bomber, shall I go on, you dirty liberal ?

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    • one years food ration like glenn says
      Posted on September 4, 2011 at 7:56am

      @BIOENGINEER, Your lost and need guiding, to say the least.. Anyway, as soon as you tried to compare “zoning laws ” to religious bigots your whole post shot straight down the crapper.. Go get some help or read a few books to learn and stop letting your bleeding heart get in the way of true life..

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  • Bargis Tryhol
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:46am

    Tolorance is NOT a Muslim belief, unless it’s directed at itself.

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  • Bargis Tryhol
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:44am

    In other news…..

    http://satireworld.com/world-news-headlines/201109011424/eat-a-turd-for-mohammed-gaining-popularity-in-taliban-controlled-afghanistan/

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    • XScramblerX
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:10pm

      My anti-virus blocked a TROJAN HORSE threat from the site you posted!

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  • ezeewhiz
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:39am

    So we just give all the streets muslim names,hence no christian churches at all. For those that choose to support this religion think about that for a minute if possible!!

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  • bellereve
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:37am

    i say we all need to organize bikini car washes outside each and every moosk. and apply at all muslim owned businesses with giant crosses as hats. when they don’t hire us….well, um, LAWSIUT.

    btw, why is noone upset they don’t have to pay taxes. (because it’s against their religion?)

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    • sheria-never
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 9:24am

      Bellever…..

      what a great idea….

      t-shirts …du rags….. hats…

      ”IM A CATHOLIC ”
      ”IM A JEW”
      ”IM A BAPIST”

      if fired …………we will sue the bed sheets off em…………

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    • yahsdaughter
      Posted on September 4, 2011 at 1:29am

      love it!!!

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  • GulfPeg
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:37am

    If Indonesia doese not allow it, then why should that mosque be built in NY across from Ground Zero?

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    • Hickory
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:56am

      This point needs to be pushed hard. And if Bloomy continues to support it, New Yorkers should start protesting with marches at his office door.

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    • highcarry
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 11:15am

      but if they said “we won’t build the mosque “, would you then allow them to not build the church?

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    • Bruce_Almty
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 11:44am

      If you can’t build a church on an Islamic street why can you build a mosque in a Jewish city?

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    • vehoae
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:09pm

      Because, GULFPEG, the people currently occupying the U.S. White House and running the U.S. government by executive orders and dictatorship are Islamic sympathizers (and, as we’re now seeing much clearer, anti-non-black and anti-Christian and anti-God). Lord, come quickly.

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  • Redistributor
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:36am

    @searching for the truth…ahh, youre on to something here.

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  • Codger
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:34am

    I’ve heard this story before only it was upside-down.

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  • Redistributor
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:28am

    “Why does a church need to build in a street with an Islamic name? Why do they need to build a church in an Islamic neighborhood?” one protester asked.

    Another question is “Why does a mosque cultural center need to be built in NY near the twin towers?” Answer: All in the name of tolerance we were told.

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    • lanurse1
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:32am

      Why this President continues to be tolerant to the intolerant will never be answered satisfactorily to me. There is a global “reverse crusade” in progress and turning your cheek to it and tolerating it will only make it more difficult to address later.

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  • xxkeepitsurrealxx
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:20am

    they want your head…end of story

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  • rfycom
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:04am

    Think of how great our world would be with no churches. It would be fantastic.

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    • poverty.sucks
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:17am

      Satan calls to have you! One day, your desires will be satisfied.

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    • Berealalready
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 9:17am

      @RFYCOM

      Oh yes, with no Churches allowed and wonderful progressive leaders effectively functioning as self appointed Gods with no ethical, societal, or moral restrictions to hamper their leadership, surely things would be wonderful as you suggest. Please tell me you were being sarcastic, please. Do we have any examples in history when rulers assume the unquestioned powers of a deity? Now I will assume your comment was not sarcastic. C’mon dummy, think. In the last 100 years every genocide has been conducted by an all powerful whack job who says he was trying to improve things, or just obliterate his opposition. What’s is it like for you living an existence that is totally oblivious to history and common sense. So, either you are a joker, or a moron of the worst type.

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  • DagneyT
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 7:59am

    Christian persecution in the 10/40 corridor….hmmmm….imagine that! [ouch, now my cheek is sore]

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    • muhamadhater
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:14am

      I think we shouldnt allow a mosque built near the 911 site, and fgurther then that we should not allow mosque 2 be built in America, as we now have been told continuallt by imams around the globe that they intend on forcing a world wide shariah on all countries, if we dont let them then they will go to war with the countries thatdont want shariah law, all us christians and infidels need 2 make a stand now, and not letting mosque being built in this country would let them know they can pack that shariah crap in there a$$.. they look at us infidels as second class humans, that will have to pay a tax to live in there world if we want 2 be left alone….enough is enough..time 2 make a stand call your reps and tell them u dont want them in your neiborhoods or in your towns..hey its a start, lets make a stand!!!

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  • poverty.sucks
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 7:54am

    Change the street name.

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  • willnotbackdown
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 7:36am

    This is the religion of peace they keep telling us about. That child molester Mohamad has caused more hate through history then Stalin and Hitler combined.

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    • sheria-never
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:05am

      Will, you are so right. Child molesters and women haters = Muslims

      Why do we keep calling Islam a religion? It is not a religion in any regard.

      Its men who want the power of subjugation, following some creepy fookin sociopathic pedophile called moo ham id.

      never never will they exist at ground zero.

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  • BelindaB
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 7:34am

    Because the damn muslims think it is ok to build their mosques on American Soil…If the muslims can build HERE…then CHRISTIANS should be able to build THERE! PERIOD.

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    • Morris
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 10:36am

      Almost forgot,The Muslims are again asking for money to build their Mosque,The want money from the “RE-BUILD NEW YORK CITY FUND”,Just Watch Dictator Obama and Mayor Bloombergh
      may just give them money from this fund!
      “WE THE PEOPLE” Must stand up and say to the MUSLIMS (GO TO HELL) Get your Mosque money
      from your Barbaric Muslim brothers!

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  • Mapache
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 7:32am

    Here in the US we have people who denigrate religion and use Christianity as the butt of many jokes while in other countries, people struggle for their religious liberty and are assailed on all sides. Lets focus on the nobility and perseverance of that small Christian community which is the real story!

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  • mygunsweetness
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 7:25am

    Wouldn’t they call us racist for something like this?

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  • ShamanWorld
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 7:23am

    MOST Muslim and Christians are both sick in the head. First off, these 2 groups claim to be so darn religious, but all they do is fight each other. Claim to be religious,but half of ya’ll are bigots. Christians claim to pray to Jesus and believe in God,but Jesus said we don’t need temples because our body is the temple. Organized religion is destroying cultures in places where “missionaries are sent in to places where WHITE MAN MADE(mostly in Africa) starvation is happening,and bribe(with food) the residents to become Christian. Look at a map of the World and see how small Europe is compared to Africa. Europe has nothing to offer Africa except lies to try to steal from it(Africa). The Blaze and other USA news spends so much time demonizing Muslims,but make no mistake about it:”The most evil group of people on this Earth are Zionists, neo-cons and the Murdoch/Soros/Bloomberg media empires(propaganda). Wake up older Americans before it’s too late. The only politician who can save this country from NWO domination is Ron Paul and that’s why the media is trying so hard to block him out right now. Don’t get sidetracked with 9-11 Muslim crap,because the biggest beneficiaries of 9-11 were Israelis and NY Jews(Larry Silverstein made 1.5 billion in insurance $ from 9-11. Muslims were just the puppets,but the string are being held by the Jewish Mob. God is watching,but we must save ourselves

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    • DagneyT
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 7:57am

      You are so sadly misinformed I wouldn’t know where to begin. Your moniker explains a lot, though.

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    • Jenny Lind
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 7:59am

      Wow, bigotry at it’s best.

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    • YepImaConservative
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:00am

      Ron Paul is a feeble old fart who is both naive and buffoonish. Ron Paul supporters are even more off the reservation than he is. Your post continues to prove that Ronulans are anti-semetic Code-Pink, drug and prostitution loving Neo- liberals or at best a Quasi-Conservative fringe group which is why you continue to be marginalized.

      Libertarians are a joke. Ron Paul is a joke.

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    • searching for the Truth
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:10am

      Sorry, some people are able to look behind the ” Veil.”

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:30am

      That post has so many theological inaccuracies in it, that it’s pretty obvious you know nothing about Christianity and are probably getting your talking points from some atheist or leftist web site. Try learning a little about a subject before you trash it.

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    • Unchained Mind
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 11:03am

      Commenting on anything on this Web sight that isn’t singing off the same song sheet is going to bring one ad hominen attacks I see. Never mind Dagneyt, you threw him and others that think like him a curve ball.He doesn’t know where to begin because his opinions are molded for him by the corrupt corporate controlled main stream media,propaganda machines, such as,Fox News,Glenn Beck, Michael Savage and Mark Levine.
      What you won‘t see here or on the propaganda machine networks is that Christians aren’t allowed to proselytize in Israel or they’ll be arrested.The Talmud has some very offensive writings about Jesus and the Virgin Mary.On Israeli TV there was a bikini clad female mocking Jesus being nailed to the cross.You Tube.There are more TV shows that mock Christians.The ADL practically writes policy for Homeland Security.The ADL wants to take the “domestic white terrorists” guns away while Jewish settlers,on stolen land, are allowed to be armed with machine guns. Jewish groups are behind all this mass immigration into Europe and North America.They push multiculturalism, diversity and tolerance for everyone but themselves. Israel has has the most restrictive and exclusive immigration policy in the world. Even amongst Jews there’s a racial hierarchy.Ashkenazi Jews are given preference in jobs and housing over Sephardic Jews.The schools and communities are segregated.Israel is a racist apartheid state and a lot of Christians are being deceived by a pack of hypocrites, li

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    • MARCH4HIM
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:39pm

      I WILL… HEY SHAMANWORLD…
      FIRST my only point about your support for “RON PAUL”. Is..would he “want” your support…!!
      If you take a PERSON ,and that person follows the teaching of the BIBLE “the whole bible”
      from the prophets of old and new. testaments….THE TEN COMMADMENT… the teachings Of
      JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR…and walk away with a full undestanding of the inspired
      word of God…Not taking the Bible out of context !!… not distorting the Bible…YOU WILL HAVE A “CHRISTIAN ”!!…AND THAT CHRISTIAN KNOWS… ARE FIGHT IS NOT WITH OUR FELLOW MAN…
      BUT WITH….
      Ephesians 6:12 WE WRESTEL NOT AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD,BUT AGAINST PRINCIPALITIES, AGAINST POWER ,AGAINST RULERS OF THE DARKNESS OF THIS WORLD,
      AGAINST SPIRITUAL WICKIDNESS IN HIGH PLACES..
      When a person ,tries to take on the world alone ,they can easily be decieved .. .When that thought popped into your head,who do you think put it there ?, your not ready for spiritual warfare ..You think you are in conrol…
      ..How many cults.?…how many false religions ?…. how many false doctrines ?… How many false theologies ?…and false teachings are there ?…
      AND ARE YOU !!!… DECIEVED BY ONE OF THESE….

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    • Unchained Mind
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 4:03pm

      @ marchforhim
      So, the bible is the infallible word of god? Why is it filled with so many inconsistencies and contradictions then? Why is the god of the old testament so warlike and so vengeful and then turned into this loving and kind and turn the other cheek god in the new testament. It’s seems like schizophrenic god to me.
      The bible is a book of fiction. Allegorical stories taken literally. Take the story of King Solomon, archaeologists with all their modern equipment and gadgets to this day still cannot find his temple. You know why they cannot find it? Because it’s a fictitious story. The temple simply is not there. Now, I know a lot of you want the sky fairy to invite you up to the big house so you blindly support Israel and can’t wait for Armageddon to begin, but a lot of us don‘t want to cremated in a nuclear war that’s been started over religious fiction. The only thing holy in Israel are the stories. Religion has been the biggest mind control creation ever created so you don’t need to tell me about cults. I‘d rather have a mind that’s open to wonder than one that’s is closed by blind faith. Religion is arbitrary…religious beliefs are arbitrary. So spare me the bible quotes. It’s like giving someone a Buick manual to sell them a Buick.

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 7:33pm

      ShamanWorld
      WOW! I don’t even know where to start with this immature and completely ludicrous post. I mean the entire post is left wing talking points, atheist propaganda and Islamic useful idiot standards. And of course you start advertising for Ron Paul. Besides the fact that Paul said “”Those who hate us and would like to kill us, they are motivated by our invasion of their land”
      (Based on factual historical evidence is incorrect.)

      Or this little tidbit ““I don’t see Islam as our enemy,” Paul said. “I see that motivation is occupation and those who hate us and would like to kill us, they are motivated by our invasion of their land, the support of their dictators that they hate.”
      (I wonder how Paul would react to Islam killing, enslaving and torturing our citizens in the 1780′s. All in the name of Mohammad.)

      And my favorite Paul cited a University of Chicago professor, Robert Pape, whose research argues that most of the suicide terrorism in the past 30 years was caused by military occupation. Pape’s research, funded by the Defense Department, shows that suicide bombings in Afghanistan went up one third after the Obama administration surged 30,000 troops into the country.
      Not only is Pape wrong; he’s on the dole of Hamas-linked CAIR.

      Ron Paul is a good man but truly ignorant on Islam and it’s designs not just on the United States (As they further multiply and immigrate illegally here) but it’s entire political ideology of a world wide ca

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    • searching for the Truth
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 10:00pm

      When in Rome one does what Roman’s do. When in Israel one does what one must do.

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    • searching for the Truth
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 10:30pm

      What seems to be inconsistencies and contradictions to you, are truths hidden from you ,because it is not the Truth you seek. The only thing I am allowed to tell you is that God must draw you or you’ll never know the Truth.

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    • yahsdaughter
      Posted on September 4, 2011 at 1:38am

      u sound as if your an angered person with many issues…if you study deep in the word, try going into the hebrew/paleo hebrew and aramaic translation of the word of Yahweh and it will make sense and no inconsistancies…. do you study deep or do you just talk smack? as far as Ron Paul he is a little wiser than you and no he is not with the NWO, he exposes them idiots that belong to the Bohemian grove/ skull and bones/ freemasons/ freaks….do you even research about any of them? and yes, I know who the Builderbergs and rothchilds are too…I do my research…(any mis spellings too bad, typed fast)

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    • one years food ration like glenn says
      Posted on September 4, 2011 at 8:12am

      If Ron Paul supporters think the way you do I will NEVER vote for him.. Your brain is a little side tracked… The Blaze and other USA news spends so much time demonizing Muslims. <<<< Isn't this the REAL reason for your post ? Your heart bleeds for the Muslims , right ?

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on September 4, 2011 at 1:24pm

      Yo unchained mind:
      You say…(so it must be true), that the bible is full of inconsistencies and contradictions. Have you ever done any real homework? When you spend more time studing these things you find that is not true. There are paradoxes… not the same.

      Many, many archaeological finds have been made that do prove the truth of the bible, never the opposite, The stables of Solomon have been found !

      You could not be IN FACT more wrong.
      unchained mind … sounds like….car without brakes
      No disrespect intended to you.

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  • cnchess
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 7:17am

    The religion of Peace strikes again. Apparently, it is only Peaceful if you agree with the powerful in the Islamic heirarchy.

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    • GABOB
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:46am

      Kind of like the Obomber administration. If you don’t agree with them, then you are a racist, bigot, terrorist, etc.

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  • preppymom
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 6:53am

    The tolerance police will be right on it….well after they make their tofu scrambler, rearrange their sock drawer, hug a tree, protest American imperialism….they really will get to it…

    New article where you find out what Hillary secretly hates and Sarah loves: http://www.crackingthemalecode.com/

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    • muhamadhater
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:42am

      wow I think the woman that wrote the book “cracking the male code” needs 2 start looking for guys in the write places instead of the wrong ones, if the best she can do is have her best boyfriend being a serial killer.., maybe she should read the book “looking for love in all the wrong places…Im praying for her!!!
      There are alot of good men out there, its just most of us are taking, woman are smart like that MOST OF THE TIME, they know a good thing when they have it..unlike SOME men, we dont realize what we have til its gone!!
      I married my best friend ( a female), and its been 11 years both on our second marriage!! on another note.. I cant wait to see some muslim tell her shes gotta cover her face and not drive or work…he better bring back up, and they probably should wear sports cup for there balls lol, and she has alot of friends just like her that wont take **** from anyone without giving it back..2 me thats a real woman , one that speaks her mind as all woman should, and all men should too, I wont let any rag head tell me I cant listen 2 music, play sports, or drink a beer, or just plain period think for myself!!

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  • NHwinter
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 6:43am

    Kind of the same question we ask about a mosque being built at ground zero. Maybe we should name the street in front of the proposed mosque “Pork Avenue”. Would that stop the ground zero mosque?

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    • Dangerous Dave
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 6:52am

      Kind of the same question………….. except for the minor detail about 19 mooslims murdering 3000 or so people….all in the name of Jihad. Those moooooslims are oh so tolerant !!!!

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    • old white guy
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 6:58am

      nhwinter. yep. why do muslims want to build mosques in christian neighbourhoods? it is a form of conquest.

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  • decendentof56
    Posted on September 3, 2011 at 6:43am

    Oh, the arrogance of those damn Christians!

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    • Mathchopper
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 6:47am

      You‘re not suggesting there’s a hint of hypocrisy here, are you?

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