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Investor Jim Rogers Gives Dire Warning on GBTV: ‘That Will Lead to the End of the World as We Know It’

“Jim, economic collapse with the euro: will that lead to a recession?” asks Glenn Beck.

“That will lead to the end of the world as we know it,” answers Jim Rogers, founder of Rogers International Commodities Index. “That will certainly lead to the end of the world as Washington D.C. knows it. There’s no question about that.”

But who is Jim Rogers and what does he know about the global financial situation?

For those unfamiliar with Beck’s guest, Jim Rogers is a famous American investor who, along with George Soros, founded the Quantum Fund, one of the world’s first international funds. Also, as mentioned above, he is the creator of the Rogers International Commodities Index.

He is a well-known proponent of free market capitalism, a successful author, a regular lecturer of finance at the Columbia University Graduate School of Business, and he has been a regular guest on Fox News’ “Cavuto on Business.”

Needless to say, he knows what he’s talking about when it comes to finances and he has repeatedly proven his keen market sense.

“We do live in very perilous times and I hope you’re very careful and I hope you’re prepared,” Rogers said in regards to the growing financial meltdown.

The conversation then turned to the topic of gold and the importance the precious metal may play in the near future.

“Everybody knows what that [gold] is. You’ll be able to sell it, barter it you have to, if it gets this bad,” said Rogers.

But what could create conditions bad enough to force someone to have to barter gold?

A total financial collapse.

Beck asked Rogers to explain difference between a recession, a depression, and the much-feared total collapse.

“Well, a recession is when your neighbor loses his job and a depression is when you lose your job. And collapse is when nobody has a job and there are people foraging in the streets; happened in Argentina 10 years ago, happened in Germany in the early 20s—“

“But it’ll never happen here. This is the United States of America!” Beck interjected.

At that point, for both the host and the guest, trying to keep a straight face became an exercise in futility.

Watch Beck and Rogers discuss everything from the potential food shortages that may occur in the event of a total economic collapse, to the present-day agricultural disaster, and much more via GBTV:

Comments (448)

  • Mirimichi
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:57pm

    I invested in lead. When the time comes, I’ll trade some grains of lead for some ounces of gold, food, and gas.

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    • TheLeftMadeMeRight
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:03pm

      Q: Are you saying you will barter ammo or become a criminal? If the latter, you may find many will not barter for your lead just exchange it for theirs…

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    • Dan_o
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:03pm

      +1, Mirimichi.

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    • Dan_o
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:05pm

      +1, Mirimichi. It’s the multi-purpose currency. You can protect your family with it, feed your family with it, and barter with it. It’s the safest bet there is.

      If someone offered my a pound of gold for my last hamburger, I’d tell them, “You can’t eat gold”.

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    • Dan_o
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:08pm

      @TheLeftMadeMeRight, I don’t think he meant that as a threat at all. Ammo will be more flexible and liquid than gold in a crisis.

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    • Jefferson
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:13pm

      WHY do you think Ron Paul supporters have been so passionate, and even rude and militant in some cases?
      We’ve been AWARE of the PLANNED meltdown that we are on the verge of.
      They want to bring what they call “order out of chaos” or a New World Order.

      These people plan DECADES in advance.

      They OWN the media. They’ve infiltrated our system of Govt. They OWN the banking systems that control our economy. They plan to IMPLODE the economy on purpose!!

      This is why they try to get you to think that Ron Paul is “unelectable” or “too soft on foreign policy,” because they are SCARED that people will begin to catch on to what he has been WARNING us about for almost 30 YEARS!!
      That is why they try to ignore or marginalize him at all costs. Even to the point of announcing 1st,3rd,4th, and 5th place in the Iowa straw poll. (who came in 2nd??)

      We have ONE chance to get it right.
      That chance IS Ron Paul.
      Iran potentially getting a nuke PALES in comparison to a world wide economic collapse, and disruption in this country like you have never seen.

      Kissinger once said (paraphrasing) that the USA would NEVER allow UN troops on their shores, but there will come a day where we will be begging them to save us.
      They are at work CREATING those conditions.

      You want to control a country? Control the currency.
      You want to control the people? Control the food.

      Our enemy is not in some far away land. It’s right HERE at home.

      WAKE UP!! THE HOUSE IS ON FIRE!!

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    • jzs
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:24pm

      If you are worried about total economic collapse, rest assured you aren’t alone! As always, it’s just around the corner. There is truly only one hedge against the coming financial apocolypse. Gold. As long as you have gold, you and your family will survive.

      You’ll need to do your own research, but I‘m confident you’ll find the most trustworthy people at Goldline. The have a reputation for steering their customers in the right direction. If you order now, you can buy rare gold coins for a very low cost, substantially higher than market value!

      Goldline – keeping American safe against the hard time ahead.

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    • smackdown33
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:24pm

      End the Fed. These private central bankers have been raping the world for decades, 10 in our case.

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    • smackdown33
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:26pm

      Let’s also remember that this is the same Rogers who bailed on America and transferred wealth to China.

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    • abyrd
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:30pm

      I invested in lead too, so don’t come looking to “share” yours with me.

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    • Jefferson
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:31pm

      I’ve invested Ron Paul, because I know he is the ONLY one who has been warning about this, and knows how to stop this.
      Storable food, and “lead” has already been acquired as a plan B.

      People better wake up before it’s too late.

      “Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., The Terrorist Attacks On 911 ], whether real or *promulgated* [emphasis mine], that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this *scenario*, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.”
      Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

      They are planning to IMPLODE this economy, and bring in “order out of chaos” or a New World Order.

      I beg of you to wake up and realize this.

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:31pm

      Artificial expansions of credit is what caused this gigantic debt bubble, as it has with all bubbles.

      The only way out is to trade, and price things in, something other than fiat money – preferally precious metals.

      Barter is extremely unweildy, so if this fiat money system collapses without a commodity money system in place to catch it, many people will run to a globally managed fiat money system.

      PLEASE learn Austrian Economics, America!

      See here.

      Smashing Myths and Restoring Sound Money | Thomas E. Woods, Jr.
      http ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAzExlEsIKk

      And here.

      “What is Constitutional Money?” with Edwin Vieira — Ron Paul Money Lecture Series, Pt 2/3
      http ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6gMkKmQSW4

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    • 762x51
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:31pm

      LEFT – That will not make him a criminal, if you believe it will then you are missing the point of “total collapse”. People will do what they have to in order to survive. When your neighbor cannot feed his children your pantry is where he will take food from, with or without your permission., by force if he can Get a clue, “total collapse” doesn’t just mean the economy, it means civilization as a whole. That is the fire that the leftists are playing with. As systems breakdown and electricity, then water, then food, then waste disposal, etc. all cease to function, people will die, probably in the tens of thousands. Many from the civil war that the enemy of the United States Obama is trying to foment but most from disease and starvation just as it has happened in other countries for centuries. America is NOT immune to these things and only a fool would think she is.

      Think what you want, but these things WILL happen it is unavoidable now, just remember, people who are overly optimistic or think it won’t be that bad are ones who will fall to those of us who are prepared. Given a choice between your survival or my children’s survival . . . you lose.

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    • Dirty Harry
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:43pm

      Dear Mirimichi, go get your gold and food elsewhere, because I‘ve invested in all of the above and you’ll be eating my lead long before get within 200′ of my house in your quest to get my gold. Happy hunting :-)

      Molon Labe.

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    • GeorgieBaby
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:45pm

      They say that when you are hungry you will sell your soul to feed yourself and your family. It looks like that is your preparedness plan.

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    • GeorgieBaby
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:48pm

      @JEFFERSON – Ron Paul is not a good preparedness investment. Quite a stretch there. Go buy some food, and don’t rely on others, INCLUDING Ron Paul to really care that you are fed and warm WHEN (not if) everything collapses.

      I rolled my eyes when I saw you make your Ron Paul pitch in this way. Just another illustration how typically out-of-touch Ron Paul fanatics are!

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    • obrien871
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:51pm

      I’ve got food storage, water purifiers, gold, silver, and lead. Don‘t come to my house or you’ll get what you have in droves. Lol

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    • Dirty Harry
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:54pm

      @ 762X51, you might surrender your morals in troubled times but I’m not. But I know people who think like you exist, and the only way “total collapse” changes that dynamic is that I will not hesitate to put you in your gave if you come to loot my “pantry.”

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    • Ookspay
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:58pm

      @JZS, Is there anything that you Liberals are good at? Add humor and satire to the list of liberal failures! I am dead serious when I say that you guys suck at everything you try!

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:00pm

      Jim Rogers needs to be asked what he thinks about Austrian Economics.

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    • Ookspay
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:01pm

      Form a small group of trusted friends, pick a spot to defend and train… I think they used to call this a militia and muster.

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    • Timinator257
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:05pm

      Ammo also isn’t tracked, like gold bullion is. Around a year ago, I started making it a point to buy some on a monthly basis. I‘ve even started buying round in calibers that I don’t (currently) have matching weapons for. Heck, even if there isn’t some major calamity, prices aren’t likely to go down and you can easily store the stuff for 50 years!

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    • TheLeftMadeMeRight
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:14pm

      I understand what he was saying. Ammo, liquor, tobacco, pharmaceuticals, toilet paper, will all be very good to barter with. I have a small farm and plan on renting food plots to people without back yards. There will still be good guys and bad guys after a collapse, thus criminals and organized crime too. That part of society will still exist.

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    • TH30PH1LUS
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:25pm

      Please consider forming groups with like-minded people. If what these men predict comes to pass, you will not make it alone with whatever goods you have collected. A mob of desperate people or gang of organized looters will quickly over-run the loners.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:32pm

      Guess who Jim Rogers would vote for?
      Ron Paul
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZKZzAGikKU

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:40pm

      If the system collapses, there will be no law, so by definition he can’t become a criminal. Lead is a much better investment than gold. Lead can help you procure food and protect the food you have. Or in this guys case, maybe help you procure someone else’s food. My bet is that anybody that is smart enough to save up food will not let it taken so easily.

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    • seejanemom
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:53pm

      Ballistic wampum.

      Poor man’s gold.

      Bullets. They‘re what’s for (shootin’) dinner.

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    • AnAppealToGod
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:59pm

      I’m starting to like Beck better when he was on Fox. At least then he wasn’t shoving products down his viewers throats. SAVE YOUR MONEY!!!! buuuuttttttttt buy from me and my sponsors.

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    • thewatcher93
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 6:08pm

      Did Jim Rodger start Quantum Group of Funds with George Soros in the 70s?

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 6:08pm

      You are a leader.

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    • Unix
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 6:10pm

      Tell ya’ll what…this madness will not end well…a lot of people are going to get hurt badly, economically speaking. If it comes down to foraging for stuff, and I have to do it, you better not want to meet up with ol Sgt Unix Crust, it will be the end of you! Conversly, I will help all who I can, but if it comes down to survival – KAPUT!

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    • schroeder123
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 6:57pm

      I’ll take ammo.

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    • LouC57
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 7:09pm

      Hey! It’s a great commodity too.

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    • MetalPatriot
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 7:51pm

      I sure wish this was in the papers & on tv. Glenn’s tried to warn people, some of us have tried too. It’s difficult to find that “inner circle” of like minded people in close proximity.

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    • caveman74
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 7:54pm

      in the event of a total collapse only the guys with lead get to say what is criminal

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    • rt elms
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 8:29pm

      OOKSPAY – Guaranteed, within that small group of trusted friends will be a government agent or one who will turn when things heat up! They’ve been working that tactic for decades.

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    • aragona
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 8:47pm

      Ron Paul again. Yawn…..

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    • Ookspay
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 8:57pm

      @RT ELMS – “OOKSPAY – Guaranteed, within that small group of trusted friends will be a government agent or one who will turn when things heat up! They’ve been working that tactic for decades.”

      Your caution and paranoia is admirable, but not my trusted friends. That I GUARANTEE! LOL, unless they started infiltrating back in grade school.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 9:46pm

      @THELEFTMADEMERIGHT
      There is No Crime without Law Enforcement… and a Society without a System for Work & Trade (Money) will not be based upon Laws… rather control of Food by WarLords will be the Power, as throughout History!

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    • KICKILLEGALSOUT
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 9:54pm

      Well you heard it from Glenn, Jim Rogers tells it like it is and that he speaks the truth.

      Oh, by the way. Jim Rogers also supports Dr. Ron Paul.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZKZzAGikKU

      Get ready for the primary elections and cast for vote for Dr. Paul for the Republican ticket.

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    • sheree34
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 10:06pm

      I just got beat up on my facebook for posting this piece. I held my own, but now I feel like some kind of wacko. Idk why, but I’m feeling down about it. I keep trying to wake people up and no one is listening they think I’m nuts.

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    • jzs
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 10:06pm

      Ookspay, look, I posted between meetings at work. I didn’t have a lot of time but I thought it was pretty good actually at the time. But I do see your point. Reading it again I have to agree, it really wan’t really that funny. But at least I tried!

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    • USAMEDIC3008
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 10:17pm

      Brass for gas
      Lead for bread

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    • Ookspay
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 10:20pm

      @Sheree, Anyone who is offended by this article is a fool. Belief systems are touchy things; people will usually only allow in information that confirms what they already believe, everything else is rejected. You did your part, you are not a wacko, simply for caring enough to post it. Some will hear and some will not. You, Glenn Beck and Rodgers may be right or you may be wrong, time will tell. No harm done in discussing what if’s… Keep up the good work!

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    • Ookspay
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 10:27pm

      @JZS, Lol… I think you are a liberal ideologue who seldom adds much to these discussions, but just maybe there is hope for you.

      Are you really happy with what Obama has done to this country? No blaming Bush! Obama, 3 years, failure on the economy or not?

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    • colt1860
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 10:32pm

      People that are saying that gold will be worthless don’t see the big picture. You can’t eat gold. Exactly. That’s the point. When you run out of food or ammo, you will need something to trade with. Not everyone will want your 12 gauge or your can of corn. And heck, you might need your 12 gauge and can of corn. Gold is there for just that reason. A medium of exchange. Sure, go ahead and store food, ammo, water, and whatever else you need. Gold will be there as a last resort, when you run out of everything else you got, or have something special or needed you don’t want to trade. This will be a common occurrence. There’s no escaping it. There will be some form of neutral instrument or mechanism for trading. Heck, even in the Great Depression some small neighborhoods created their own paper currency to use as money. Not everyone will want to trade away their last gallon of water for a pound of beef. And not everyone will need your gallon of water or pound of beef. What happens when you run out of ammo and you go to your neighbor seeking for some and he doesn’t want a can of beans? Get the picture?

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    • 7.62x54
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 10:41pm

      We are the 1% that have things figured out. Best thing to do is to band together and we’ll get through this.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 10:52pm

      In addition. When you run out of food, or your can of peaches expires or perishes due to heat or cold or whatnot, your stashed away gold will still be there with no rust and no deterioration. Gold will be your plan B, your backup. Don’t dismiss this valuable commodity of exchange and trade. When your stuck or lost in some far away place and all you got is a gold necklace on you, it will come in handy when you realize you need something to trade with to buy food or shelter. People will not keep their houses open to the public as some charitable organization, especially in an economic collapse. Don’t count on strangers being so welcoming to you. It will come in handy at some point. If all you got on you is a gold ring, people will steal it from you, or you can guard it and use it to buy or get what you need. This will catch on. You don’t want to be caught with no common medium of exchange. Plus, with all this talk on here of people saving and storing gold and silver, believe me, you’ll have people that would rather trade that than to give up on essentials. You will have to invest and plan your expenditures wisely in a total economic meltdown. If you think you’ll do fine without silver and gold, fine. That’s up to you. But don’t insist or say as fact that it will be of no good. That is false. Gold will be a medium of exchange, maybe not in your town, but in the next state, county or country. Think ahead in the long term. Just my 2 cents.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 10:59pm

      *By gold I mean silver also and any other precious metals or hard commodities.

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    • teamarcheson
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 11:08pm

      America has been able to feed itself and much of the world since its beginning. The socialists need to communize farms and the only way to do it is the way Lenin did it in Russia, bankrupt farmers and force them out of farming. The USDA is already ending farm production though many tricks. Farms are being converted to Solar Energy Shingle Farms. Farms are being converted to Wind Mills. Farms are being converted to UN World Habitat Reserves. Irrigation is being denied farmers including use of underground wells. Tricks are being done by USDA to reduce value of remaining farmland so farmers cannot get “seed” loans. After 300 years of plenty, Washington communist planers are planing to end food production in America. We will no longer have surpluses.

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    • oldoldtimer
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 11:47pm

      The most valuable resource of all will be knowledge. Ability to grow your own food. make what you need and how to survive against those that would take that you create. Don’t just read practice your skill before your life depends on it. I grew enough food to feed my entire family for over 6 months in a small garden plot in my front yard. Skills will be more valuable than money. For barter acquire spirits(whiskey), coffee, tea and other hard to get commodities. Stock enough for your own use and some for barter. Coins will still be a medium of exchanges(intrinsic value of the metal) but paper money will be less valuable than toilet paper.

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    • Cosmos102
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 12:26am

      Beck wants a crisis so badly, he can barely contain himself.

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    • Anti_Spock
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 12:31am

      If givin a choice to have 1 oz. of lead bullets, or 1 oz. of gold, I would take the gold. Then I would barter the gold coin for a rock. Then I would put the rock in a pot of water, and make stone soup. Then I would barter the stone soup for a pillow. Then I would cut open the pillow and throw the feathers into the wind. Then I would follow the wind carrying the feathers. And that routine would keep me busy, for awhile.

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    • UrbanCombatSurvivor
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 12:33am

      YOU, Sir, are exactly who this video is talking about:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoEE7jpEflA

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    • watchmany2k
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 12:52am

      Am I the only one who doesn’t get it ?
      I have followed Rodgers for years on the various financial shows he’s been on, his info is sound.
      What I don’t get is for Beck to take him in arms wide open, after Beck’s unending fingerpointing at Soros. Rodgers @ the Quantum fund is the equivalent of Barry @ rev. wrights pew foe 20 years.
      So what if Quantum was very successful.

      and not a peep on either of their parts to explain that relationship with Soros.
      other than to acknowledge it at the beginning and not say a word more.

      If rodgers is under a non-disclosure, then say that. If he said he won’t dis or discuss Soros then say THAT.

      It just makes me uneasy that the silence is deafening about the soros/rodgers relationship, when Beck will delve deep on other issues regardless of who it is.

      Rodgers certainly put his family and money where his mouth is, is very vocal about being an American Citizen in self imposed exile in Singapore. Their education system would be better than the progressive BS we have here, right now they are independent of China economically and a roaring tiger so I get that.

      However I want to know WTF about Soros !

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    • wzanesdad
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 2:11am

      I need Help on something. What 2-way radios can I buy that would have the best cHance at standing up to an EMP blasT?

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    • colt1860
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 4:19am

      Gold should be used as a backup. You’ll need to trade and exchange, and you don’t want to trade and exchange all of your food and water away, you’ll eventually run low on both. Food, water, ammo, shelter and clothing are more important. So definitely stock up good on those.

      Military conducts drill to confront riots
      youtube.com/watch?v=Y_9_5aBU33E

      US troops training for “urban warfare”
      youtube.com/watch?v=1hglvE0QTAY

      Military training to shutdown US cities
      youtube.com/watch?v=71Jux68F_AQ

      Troops sent in after Katrina
      youtube.com/watch?v=DK2g0TGaAZA

      Police and National Guard confiscate guns after Katrina
      youtube.com/watch?v=1Njg4eB_Mfk

      Don’t forget the recent TSA checkpoints. The Government sure as heck knows somethings coming. Well… They’ve at least been planning for it, while most Americans have been asleep.

      Don’t worry, we’ll have the DHS, FEMA, TSA, UN Troops, ATF, and Napolitano to protect us.

      DHS labels pro-lifers and veterans as “rightwing extremists”
      valuesvoternews.com/2009/04/department-of-homeland-security-label.html

      Obama’s Homeland Security Labels White Americans as Terrorists
      ice-news.net/2011/08/04/obama%E2%80%99s-homeland-security-labels-white-americans-as-terrorists/

      Joe Biden likened TEA Partiers to terrorists
      politico.com/news/stories/0811/60421.html#ixzz1eV6Eg1R2

      Oh yeah, and they can assassinate you now. Ain’t that great?

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    • colt1860
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 4:22am

      *Once again, by gold I mean silver also and any other precious metals or hard commodities. Some day you might need it. But it’s up to each individual. Just be prepared.

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    • Virginia Joe
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 4:25am

      I agree – Ammo in times of turbulence can be another barter item. Restricting or severely taxing the sale of ammunition might be a way of gun control and take away from the people, a means of self defense. If your neighborhood is in the middle of a riot, you might have a shotgun but without shells, what good is it?

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    • US_SOLDIER
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 4:39am

      Sadly about 90% of the population here suffers from Normalcy bias. Believing that because something hasnt happened then it cant happen. If you are new to becoming prepared (Hurry up lol) then I personally would suggest getting things in this order (Everyone is an expert, this is just my suggestion) First: get a firearm, without it anything you prepare for can be easily taken from you. Second: begin to acquire food, even if its just an extra can of corn or two each time you visit the grocery store. Third: store water, whether its in old drink containers, bottled water or whatevers clever (as long as its sanitary) Fourth: begin to collect precious metals, to barter with or retain wealth whichever scenario plays out. Obviously there are tons of other things to stock up on, this is just a very basic sterp in the right direction. Trust me when I say, once you start on this path you will think of a lot more things once you begin. But please make your preperations now, I began almost two years ago and I can confindently say I wont have to look at my wife and son and dogs and tell them there is no food to eat

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    • WeDontNeedNoSteenkinBadges05
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 4:53am

      It’s been planned longer than you might think …

      WORLD GOVERNMENT FORMING NOW
      http://www.endtime.com/new-world-order/

      After World War II, The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) was formed as a hedge against the advance of communistic Warsaw powers led by the USSR. When Mikhail Gorbachev became the leader of the Soviet Union, he allowed the fall of the Berlin Wall, and ultimately, of the Iron Curtain. World leaders declared that the Cold War was over, and they proclaimed the birth of a New World Order.

      After the Berlin Wall fell in 1989, we began hearing new terms like World Community and International Community. David Rockefeller said that a global crisis would have to occur before the world would be willing to accept a New World Order. When the world’s economy began a dramatic downward plunge in 2008, world leaders again proclaimed the need for a New World Order with global economic structures.

      The word “globalization” means exactly what it says. It is the process of transitioning the world into a global government. When we hear about international law, it is referring to the laws of the international government. When we hear about the World Court, it is referring to the court system that has been created to enforce the laws of the world governmental system. … They are all components of the one-world government—the world government prophesied for the endtime 2,000 years ago.

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    • wntsmallgov
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 6:07am

      Once Society falls it is everyone for themselves, Laws will not count nor will morals.

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    • Future Hope
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 6:09am

      It is amazing how many of us are thinking the same way.

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    • metalurgy
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 7:02am

      @DAN_0
      “If someone offered my a pound of gold for my last hamburger, I’d tell them, “You can’t eat gold”.

      Nice try DAN_0. Try telling that to those living in Zimbabwe where people with GOLD get to the front of the line at the Market. Most families in Zimbabwe now spend 12 hour days mining the river banks for an ounce of gold to feed their families. That is their full time job. Go to YouTube and search Zimbabwe Hyperinflation, or Zimbabwe Market, or Zimbabwe Gold Market to see Market vendors openly hawking their wares for grams of gold. All day, everyday.

      Yes DAN_0, you can eat gold. It’s universal and EVERYBODY will trade for it, except possibly you because you don’t have any.

      It’s been around since the written word and is the only true form of material wealth in the bible, which stipulates using “just weights and measures” for free trade.

      And don’t give me any BS about how heavy it is. I can get over $200 per $5 gold eagle that are the size of a dime. I have five in my pocket now. That’s a grand. Much lighter then that handgun and clip of bullets you are carrying.

      Guns and ammo are important, but when **** hits the fan, everybody will be hunting in your area to survive and that food supply will dry up quick. What’s your fall back plan?

      Got silver? Got Gold? No?

      Sucks to be you.

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    • waymoregooder
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 7:26am

      …extra brass too.

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    • Vietvet1
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 7:34am

      I don’t think you become a “lawbreaker” because… when the world does go to hell in a handbasket…folks… there are no laws but survival. I too am investing in lead and the means to deliver. It will be used to obtain for my family and defense. Unless you are rich.. you will not be able to buy gold and the lead and lead delivery systems in any great numbers. Choose one.

      Here is your scenario. We have greedy people today..SURPRISE!! Well it will be the same if this happens. Buy all the gold you want… 60 pounds of it say… what do YOU do when ONE loaf of bread costs one pound of gold? So by my math grains of powder and lead remain the same because, they do the same then as now…no fluctuation. Remember history… The Spainish and the natives of the New World. Who got the gold?

      If in a desert, you will give up a ton of gold for a drink of water. What would you do if you had guns and ammo. Those with the gold will try to buy your guns and ammo… not enough gold and last time I remember, you can’t eat and drink precious metal or jewels. Nuff said by me. Welcome to the New World.

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    • Dadwithallthecoolstuff
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 9:05am

      I am heavily invested in lead and knowledge..dont mind the sheep who would assume you to be a criminal if you were to protect yourself…we can divide his stuff between us..or whats left after the Savage Hoardes get through with him !

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    • schmite123oh
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 9:26am

      @dano you may not be able to eat gold, but after you eat your last hamburger what will you barter for food? The guy that has many hamburgers and much lead, and much gold would gladly take your gold as well for hamburgers. You numbskulls will need gold as a medium of exchange, same with silver.

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    • schmite123oh
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 9:28am

      clearly everyone who is stating the obvious that you can not eat gold, does not understand truly, what a “medium” of exchange is. Have some gold and silver handy, dont be a fool.

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    • juge
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 9:35am

      Food and Ammo, the currency of the BO admin.

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    • Iron_Man
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 9:37am

      I have Lead too, and seeds, I hope you mean for barter. Not to try to be a robber barron.

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    • schmite123oh
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 9:44am

      I agree with Cosmo, I think Beck is excited for a crisis so he can be right, he says he hopes he is wrong and wants to prepare for the worse, but its hard to overlook the fact that i think he would enjoy a calamity. to show how prepared he is, I have small doses of some things that rogers mentions, but i think a few shot looters would end a financial collapse, plus the military and national guard would put alot down. Argentina is still kicking, germany is still kicking, the middle east is still kicking, china is still kicking, heck we have no idea what a collapse is, i think things will be just fine, and society will continue, i would be more worried about a nuclear collapse over anything else.

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    • Jefferson
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 9:47am

      @GEORGIEBABY
      What part of “ALREADY” don’t you understand? The essentials of food and family protection were acquired LONG before I started financially supporting Ron Paul’s campaign.
      Reading comprehension apparently isn’t your strong suit.
      I guess I should have written my post in a Bill O’Reilly “talking points” style, so you could have grasped what I was writing.
      Ignore the warnings from Rogers and Paul at your own peril. You will remember these words, if and when some media hyped counterfeit conservative is “selected,” or if Ohmamma gets another 4 years.

      We may not even MAKE IT to next election with the way things are boiling over with Syria, Iran, Russia and China.

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    • jhrusky
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 9:56am

      If your whole intent is to just take/steal what you need via power, I‘d lay odds you don’t last a week.
      People like me who invest in everything we believe we’ll need are not only also invested in lead, as you say, but also are well-trained, know what it means/takes to defend oneself and have serious backup power if/when needed.

      Good luck in your survival.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 10:14am

      This has been planned since Bush I signed United Nations Agenda 21. Every president since then has pushed us more and more toward the brink — both Democrats and SOME REPUBLICANS! Please study United Nations Agenda 21 to know who is involved and for this election — Ron Paul is the only Republican candidate that isn’t part of the scheme! You can recognize those for “world government” by their stances on constant war, American militarism, loss of civil liberties (like those that voted “yes” to the Patriot act).
      WAKE UP America — I think 2012 is the last hope for America as a Republic.

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 10:21am

      People like that are all over. It will be the duty of those who wish to continue our civilization to discourage those people from breathing.

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    • Servant Of YHVH
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 10:39am

      @762×51
      You are correct in that it will not make him a criminal it will just make him very dead. It may be that a lot of die in times like that but in most cases, someone that tries to take everything from someone else will have everyone after him and someone like that would likely die sooner than most people that has prepared. I don’t know which way mirimichi meant it either but I just know that people that prepare and join with others that have also prepared will fare a lot better and live longer than people that have not prepared or who decides that they will just take it from someone else.

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    • downthewell
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 11:04am

      So you geniuses here on The Blaze finally stopped spelling Roger’s name with a “D” huh? What took so long? BTW, Rogers advocates NOT buying gold. He expects it to crater to 1200.

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    • stopspendingourmoney
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 11:34am

      I am voting for Ron Paul, there is no perfect canidate but he seem to be the only one that understands or has a grasp of what is really going on in America, he understands we are broke. The only one I have ever heard even saying it, I am sticking with him, there is no perfect canadate as I said, but he is the only one with a plan to get America out of debt, and understands how much trouble the dollar is in, I am not trying to convince anyone, do your own homework and may the best man win…. and may God bless us all..

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    • Nathaniel Horn
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 12:08pm

      Anti_Spock: LoL… Very creative solution. But a big bullet to the temple would be much less trouble and far less painful.

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    • One Patriot
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 5:19pm

      And Rogers is in bed with Soros? Uh-oh…..And Glen, et al is always pushing gold…why? I prefer to remain heavily invested in lead, copper coated, ammo. Short of a nuclear winter I can hunt for food.
      Living in the Great Smokies of NC gives one an advantage, plenty of fresh water, fruit and wildlife.

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 6:10pm

      @downthewell,

      “So you geniuses here on The Blaze finally stopped spelling Roger’s name with a “D” huh? What took so long? BTW, Rogers advocates NOT buying gold. He expects it to crater to 1200.”

      On the issue of gold cratering: Relative to the Federal Reserve Note? So what?

      You’re not supposed to buy gold in order to save value in terms of fiat money, but rather in terms of actual valuable stuff.

      Remember: Anyone can write on a piece of paper and say it’s worth X amount of these other pieces of paper with lower numbers – the only reason we use fiat money is because we’re forced to.

      See here.

      Smashing Myths and Restoring Sound Money | Thomas E. Woods, Jr.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAzExlEsIKk

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    • mils
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 8:08pm

      check out the “prepper” groups around you….
      “alabama preppers”, “new york preppers”, “california preppers” etcetcetc…

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    • rt elms
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:07am

      Ookspay – I hope you are correct in your assessment of your inner circle. However, if one of them is made an offer they cannot refuse involving say their family, they will flip you and others like a fried egg. That is not paranoia but reality. You can ultimately trust no one except the Lord!

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    • aLinedog
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 9:40am

      I mentioned, several months (a year or so ago) that very idea and folks took the wrong angle then as well. I agree, ammo will be worth much more than gold.
      1. It can be used to harvest food.
      2 It can be used to protect your food source.
      3. It can be bartered for other necessities.
      4. You MUST have a working economy for curreny of any kind to be of value. Otherwise the value of your gold is subjective and up for ‘discussion’.
      ((Hope you have some AMMO, otherwise that ‘discussion’ is likely to see you w/o your gold-very soon))
      5. Gold caches will attract undesirable attention. Extra ammo tends to have a very different effect.

      As m’man said,” …you can’t eat gold.”, and it makes for lousy weaponry.
      -Line

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    • Pasadena Phil
      Posted on December 10, 2011 at 11:19am

      I too am mostly invested in lead and food. I see little use for gold if we are talking about collapse. It will only be worth whatever the scar-faced guy with the crooked nose says it is and he may just take it from you anyway… after he takes your food.

      The best preparation you can make in the event of total collapse is to network NOW. Have a plan for hunkering down until the foraging zombies are gone (2-3 months) and have a place to go and re-organize with your friends. You will need food to eat and barter, guns/ammo to defend yourself and barter with (9mm is probably the best investment because that is the most common caliber), and a plan for how to assemble, pack-up and move to where you are going. You need to go somewhere where there will be enough of you to discourage attack (strength in numbers), enough water and land to live off of, and with terrain that provides military advantages for protecting the community.

      I don’t expect total collapse but living in CA where earthquakes, politics, and a dirty bomb are real possibilities, it doesn’t hurt to be prepared for that. Adding the networking is the hard part. People really don’t want to even think about it.I’ve talked about it with several like-minded people and we may end up doing it but so far, all I am prepared to do is to hunker down until the zombies are gone and then set out on my own with my bug-out kit.

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  • Centralsville
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:51pm

    I often wonder how the world will change when the world’t first major city is blow away by a nuke. Not like the small 9-11 attack. But the city gone. Not by a missile launched by one country into another, but by some small group of radicals that smuggles it in and detonates it. I think it is only by the grace of God that it hasn’t happened yet. When it does it will cause a world crisis like we have never seen before. Millions will flee the world’s cities wondering which city is next. National governments will wonder if their capitals are safe. Overnight it will change the world as we know it. It will happen.

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    • Solzhenitsin
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:57pm

      The way China is gearing up, it may not be long before we see it happen. Where do you think they’ll hit? Since they are preparing for warfare in the Pacific, I think somewhere in California is likely. Then again, history may repeat itself and it will be Hawaii.

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    • TheLeftMadeMeRight
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:00pm

      I have a friend who retired after a 20 year career holding a fairly high rank in the Army. He told me 25 years ago our government was predicting and planning for just such an event. You are exactly correct, panic on a scale unimaginable.

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    • Mikev5
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:08pm

      I second California they will knock out the Dam’s and power infrastructure this is also the things that Arizona shares with CA so what happens to CA will affect AZ electric power and water.

      I hope this will not happen but I can move now so Im going to do so to be safe.

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    • Timinator257
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:13pm

      You should check out “Jerico” on netflix sometime. (Right after watching all “Walking Dead” episodes!!)

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    • BowHuntingTexas
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 9:02pm

      Hello Timinator257.

      Another good one is “The Road” by the brothers, don’t recall their name, who did “No Country for Old Men”.

      Whoa.

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    • RLTW
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 9:27pm

      The Democrats already did it to Detroit.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 10:06pm

      Solzhenitsin

      I think that if China won a war versus the U.S. they would take Hawaii. It would be easy for them to replace the population with theirs & would give them a forward base. They already have a theory of protecting China with a string of pearls Island Chain defensive belt. Hawaii would be the lynchpin of the 4th & outermost string.

      Where would Obama vacation then?

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    • jeanr
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 10:30pm

      Not sure that 3,000 dead New Yorkers would agree that 9/11 was small.

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    • babylonvi
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 12:11am

      Guess what, if our economy dumps and we stop buying their stuff, the break down into chaos too.

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    • JJ Coolay
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 2:21am

      Jean, losing 1 life is not trivial, but the idea here was a scale of losing 3000 versus losing 1….2….5?? million if a whole city was whiped out. In that sense, yes, 9/11 was a small hit.

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  • Searchingforthelight
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:48pm

    I dont think the world will never be the same even if it doesn’t collapse. There are to many variables,
    but that doesn‘t mean things couldn’t get better. They will probably get worse first, but they could get better and if that spread around the world, the world would be much better.

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    • RossPoldark
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 7:03pm

      I will do my to prepare and also defend my family. If I should be killed in the process, I am not worried, because I know I will be in a much better place with the Lord.

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    • RossPoldark
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 7:08pm

      Oops, I meant to say, I will do my best to prepare.

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    • US_SOLDIER
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 4:55am

      I see it as only coming out to three basic scenarios
      1) A “hickup” in the financial system sends markets tumbling but in less than a year things begin to stabilize and return to normal.
      2) A prolonged depression, probably due to govt trying to do too much after a financial meltdown much as they did in the 30′s. You will see staggering unemployment numbers, people will starve to death, many will resort to cannibalism (its happened many times in human history) and it will be years before order is restored and people feel safe in both their security and financially.
      3) We see a massive collapse on a global scale. Markets crash across the world and society as a whole breaks down. You will see massive amounts of looters, murders, rapes, cannibalism, and rioting. It overwhelms the system and society collapses under its own weight. You will see small pockets of people sheltering together in safe cities or communities. Outsiders will not be let in for fear of the unkown. Although this scenario is the scariest by far I am confident that society will be re established eventually. Please people listen to your gut, not the news. You can feel it in the air that something is wrong and on the horizon. No one can predict when any of these scenarios will occur but you dont have to be an economist to see that atleast one of them is almost guaranteed to happen in our life times

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  • SonsOfLibertyRiders
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:48pm

    Jim Rogers has officially endorsed Ron Paul……like it or not, Ron Paul is right and is the only one who has been telling the TRUTH for 20 years

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    • Treaty
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:58pm

      I with ya brother…

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    • Solzhenitsin
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:58pm

      You are wasting your time and irritating everyone else- sort of like teaching a pig to sing.

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    • Captain Crunch
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:14pm

      “Ron Paul is right and is the only one who….etc….etc….etc…sick of hearing it…..it’s a damm cult…..too old….you people are radicals of a different ilk….I’ll vote for my dog.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:38pm

      As Ron Paul says: “You have two choices. Either you can work your way out of this, or you wait until it collapses and you have to rebuild it.”

      A primary vote for either Romney or Gingrich is a vote for waiting, just as surely as a vote for Obama in 2008 was. Neither Gingrich nor Romney has even the faintest grasp of the nature or the extent of the problems presently facing the nation. Neither Gingrich nor Romney will do anything in office, anything at all, to address these problems. They will instead do precisely as various presidents named Bush, Obama and Clinton have done in attempting to buy more time, and thereby exacerbating the situation when no more time can be bought.

      Republicans now have two choices. They can either put forward Ron Paul as a candidate who is committed to address the financial and economic problems facing the nation, or they can put forward a candidate who will do little more than ensure Republicans bear the blame for the economic collapse of the country.

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    • Ookspay
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 7:05pm

      @Vechorick, LOL! RON PAUL RON PAUL RON PAUL! Dude, this story has nothing to do with Doc Paul. Nor does your comment have anything to do with this story. Give it a rest Man. But if you must persist, go scan the obituaries and send some Paul brochures to the mourners! Geeeeezzzz!

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    • Government Motors
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 7:46pm

      His post makes perfect sense regarding this article because Jim Rogers has endoresed Ron Paul. Rogers is probably just a “loon” though and knows nothing about economics. It’s more important to find out who Donald Trump is endorsing, at least that’s what Fox News is telling me and they would never lie.

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    • Patrick Henry II
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 8:01pm

      Did you hear Rush Limbaugh’s endorsement of Ron Paul. Not officially but gave a hypathetical endorsement. Ron Paul is not as Marginalized as people think. He is marginalized on foreign policy.

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    • Kaoscontrol
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 11:24pm

      The countries problems are MUCH bigger than Ron Paul. Put to much faith in R.P. and you’ll be diss appointed. Instead,seek God on behalf of our country. Go ahead and vote your concience, but pray alot first. And stay (unlike R.P.) on the right side of Israel by standing with them. These passionate posts by Ron Paul worshippers make me (and other rational people) nervous. Calm down you guys!

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  • Mikev5
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:46pm

    I’m moving to Idaho in a week Arizona is no place to live when things go belly up I worry if we get attacked AZ will be in trouble the Dams will be targets and with that the electric power that comes with it this will be disastrous for AZ water will become hard to get and power for your needed home AC your home will become 112 every summer Idaho has lots of water and decent weather most of the time with lots of farmland.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:47pm

      I know a man that moved to TN so the farming weather is much better than where he lived.

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    • Isitoveryet..
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 6:23pm

      You don’t want to move to Idaho. It is not a nice place at all, I have lived there all my life60+ years. Stay in Az or Ca or move wherever else you want, Idaho is too crowded as it is………. end sarcasm
      But if you do move to Idaho remember to look at INL it will be a first strike target for sure.

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    • Tretka
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 10:54pm

      We are thinking of this too.

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  • tbl10
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:45pm

    Some of you people crack me up. The problems this country faces will not be fixed in just one election, the problems have been building for decades. Does anyone really think by electing Mitt, Newt, Ron Paul, or Michelle Bachman that this problem will be magicly fixed. The plan to overthrow this country has been initiated a long time ago and it will not matter who the President is, when it crashes and it will, the bottom line is we will be on our own. The Government has spent trillions building underground bases in this country for the past 20 years, they are fully stocked and when the time comes they will be swished away into those bunkers. The rest of us will be left to defend ourselves from the those that bought the lies of the government and did nothing to prepare. When the coast is clear they will come out of their bunkers and guess what their New World Order will be put into effect.

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    • Solzhenitsin
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:00pm

      No one things it will change overnight, but it‘s the only chance we’ve got to attempt to change course.

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    • palerider54
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:21pm

      You are right.TBL10, I helped build one of these compounds in rural eastern KY about 7 yrs ago. I was a concrete construction worker and we were told it was to be a resort of some kind. Those who asked to many questions were laid off.
      This place had its own underground water supply, four huge generators, underground concrete tunnels between underground bomb proof bunkers with log cabins built on top of them. Guard towers with underground tunnels connecting them to the bunkers. High tech fencing with sensing devices that kept going off when deer crossed them. I tried to gain access to it last yr and was met at the gate by an armed guard with an assault rifle. Was told NOT to come back.

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    • bhohater
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:29pm

      You are 100 percent right TBL10, economic collapse is inevitable no matter who the next President is. Those who don’t realize this and are not preparing for it are going to face terrible consequences, the likes of which has never been seen here before.

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    • hauschild
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:30pm

      @TBL10

      I generally agree, although there is a candidate or two that isn’t a lifelong academic or politician. I think with Bachmann, we get the seeds sewn.

      But, it’s pretty much over no matter how you look at it.

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:33pm

      Here is the problem, if things are under control of the NWO to the extent that is being portrayed, what leads you to believe that they have not/or could not infiltrate the Secret Service as well? Do you really think “they” as powerful as they are being made out to be, would let anyone actually make the necessary changes?

      Endgame 1…nothing changes and we get another progressive in, people finally get fed up when the whole thing comes crashing down leading to anarchy.

      Endgame 2…we get Obama, the whole thing comes crashing down, leading to martial law and anarchy.

      Endgame 3…we get someone in there who is for real change and starts deconstructing the mess, they end up dead, replaced by someone who is less competent and anarchy eventually ensues or return to #1.

      Ron Paul and every other candidate for office is human, they are finite. If the NWO is as some say, we are already too far gone and the end will be the same regardless of the messenger.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:52pm

      I believe you’re right — THIS election will determine the fate of America. Socialist or Republic.

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    • mils
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 6:04pm

      I really hate to know that you are right…
      Water…will be a huge commidty…water purifier good idea..
      I remember hearing about the “new world order” with George 1. that’s when i started paying attention to politics..it just rang a bell for us.
      Where we live, the people are relatively well “prepared”, food, water, campers, land etc..but, I would say 95+% of the NEast is not. California definitely not…and i feel for the border states!
      Web Bot has an interesting article(s) on a dec 2012 blackout that lasts a few months. Just interesting to read and ponder what the heck is going on….
      .maybe ..if we get out of this mess, we will pay more attention to what our elected leaders are up to and not treat them like royalty not to be questioned.
      Our family is prepared the best it can be at this point in time..
      A new president won’t change the mess over night..but, maybe…just maybe…we will get someone that is honest in office. That alone would be a change.
      I’m gonna say hillary and palin for the race in 2012.. sorry…haha so much for honesty if hillary ever got in..

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    • countrysideflair
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 6:33pm

      @PALERIDER54 Where is this place at? I want to see it from Satellite.

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    • Jeff65
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 3:05am

      @tbl10 Your right, but Jim Rogers is putting his money on Ron Paul. For the advantage of the people, the Oath Keepers have millions members joined up. Its will be interesting, that’s for sure. Go for the best chance, expect the worst, and pray for the best.

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  • votemallout
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:44pm

    Rogers is a Ron Paul supporter.

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    • Solzhenitsin
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:01pm

      So we should ignore him?

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    • votemallout
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:11pm

      Absolutely not. I think it is great!! I LOVE Ron Paul.

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    • KICKILLEGALSOUT
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 9:57pm

      That‘s right and you heard it from Glenn’s mouth that Jim Rogers tells it like it is and tells the truth.
      Dr. Paul 2012. The only one who can beat Obama.

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    • DrFrost
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 3:57pm

      The only one that can beat Obama? Are you kidding me? I love Ron Paul (I don‘t like his foreign policy as I’ve said many times before) but he’s certainly not the only one who can beat Obama. In fact Dr. Paul might have a hard time winning over a lot of the independents with his libertarian ideals. I’m a libertarian so I love those ideals, but whatever republican runs will almost certainly have my vote. It’s the independents that he has to win. And most of these independents are moderates…. which is why Romney polls so well with them. These people are not exactly Dr. Paul’s base.

      1) Dr. Paul’s strengths, in my opinion, is his character, integrity and long history of conservatism. You know exactly what he would try to do as President. I say try because I’m not sure congress will go along with a lot of it….

      2) Romney’s strength, in my opinion, is his appeal to moderate independents. He also performs very well in debates. He’s very polished. If he would do what he says, he’d make a decent president. But we have so few politicians to stick to their promises and he has not convinced me he’s any different.

      3) Newt’s greatest strength, in my opinion, is his intelligence and experience. In my estimation he’s won all but one of the debates. He has more experience with Washington politics than anyone else on the stage BY FAR. He was the republican “idea man” for years and has done a lot in his career. But this is also going to bite him becau

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  • THX-1138
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:43pm

    Bring it on. Lose the false veneer of “civilization” and get a real good look at the people you share this planet with.

    Ever hear the story of the Phoenix?

    I’m ready for the fire. And the new beginning.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:52pm

      Wishing for such a thing is beyond barbaric, please reconsider. If society goes down, lots of sick people don’t get their medicine, lots of innocent children get to starve and die, and lots of old people are left to perish and will do so. If you want a look at that kind of devestation, study Russia during WW2, where people were eating their shoes, belts and….each other, before wishing for such a fate for those you love.

      It may happen, it may not, but I’m not going to wish it upon others. We fight these people, yes, but let’s try to retain our humanity.

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    • SoupSandwich
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:24pm

      @ Ghost
      Well said.

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    • THX-1138
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:30pm

      I feel you.

      But.

      Our humanity can’t be retained, it must be reclaimed, it’s already gone. Civilization is a Myth. It’s a paper thin veneer over the collective. It’s a mirage. The moment the power goes off we return to the World and are Forced to join the Human Race or perish.

      That’s the world we were formed in; one made up of people depending on and respecting one another. That’s the world much of the planet still lives on. When the power goes out in the US/Europe/Asia the people in the jungles of Brazil won’t even notice.

      Technology is a double edge sword. It’s got to cut both ways. It has heped us do many great things. But in doing so it’s made (many of) us weak, shallow and dependent. It has, in my humble opinion, effectively reversed Evolution in much of the world. We’re drifting backward, dumber and weaker every year. And, interestingly enough, it’s made us easier to control. These technological advancements have, I think, come too quickly. Society has fallen behind. It’s been abused. “Never give a Monkey a loaded handgun.” Well, too late. Now what.

      When it disappears it’ll be little more than a junkie kicking junk; ugly but necessary for survival.

      When it collapses it will be what we all have been asking for; Freedom.

      I’m an old man. I’m far from rich. I’m one of the ones who will suffer most. I’ll most certainly suffer and probably die. And I’m ready.

      I just can’t stand the thought of my great grandkids living in this pris

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    • 762x51
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:37pm

      Careful what you wish for. Assuming you will survive, indeed that ANY leftists will survive is a huge stretch. I may not survive but I will not be leaving here alone. Many “progressives” will proceed me.

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    • THX-1138
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:47pm

      I don’t want the “progressives” or anyone else to “leave”; I want them to learn. I want the lesson to stick. I want the people to understand just how thin that veneer of Civilization really is. I want them to see what happens when you leave your future to others. Nothing but a complete collapse will prove it to most. Most people want someone (else) to take care of them. I want them to see that there IS no one else. There is just US.

      That which does not kill us…

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    • Dismayed Veteran
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:02pm

      The one upside Americans have is supporting each other in a disaster. I am prepared to be a “lone wolf” but I am hoping that American Exceptionalism will come forth. Good strong people always band together. It is the only way to survive.

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    • Lux
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 5:25am

      ” you are too concerned with what was and what will be. Yesterday is history, tomorrow is mystery, today is a gift, that‘s why it’s called the present.” A very wise turtle

      Below is a link to a short video that will warm the heart and inspire the soul. Merry Christmas, Happy New Years, and God bless everyone!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMwKxmTLaCs

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    • Lux
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 5:31am

      ” you are too concerned with what was and what will be. Yesterday is history, tomorrow is mystery, today is a gift, that‘s why it’s called the present.” A very wise turtle

      Below is a link to a short video that will warm the heart and inspire the soul. Merry Christmas, Happy New Years, and God bless everyone!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMwKxmTLaCs

      P.S. if this post gets double posted I apologize but I’m not sure if it was even posted the 1st time.

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  • Kiba
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:43pm

    My God this crap just has to be some kind of curse or just fate or something. I honestly am beginning to think we may as well just give-up and hold on for the long hard ride that is comming, and said-ride (or the end of it all) is probably unstoppable no matter what anyone does. And what a coincidence that while the entire world is comming apart at the seams it just all has to come to a climax while that imposter Obama is at the helm too. I swear sometimes I feel like “they” (whoever the hell it was because it certainly wasnt me, or any of mine either) elected not just the Anti-America but the Anti- Christ. Im beginning to feel so helpless anymore, like there isnt a thing we can do about anything any more. And although cleaning out that cess-pool they call Washington D.C. would be a perfect first-step it would be so hard to really have any kind of noticeable positive effects 4 or 8 yrs. will roll around again and it would all just be un-done of course. Its hopeless anymore, too far gone, like urinating in the ocean and waiting for it to rise. And if God forbid those suicidal 5th. century throw-backs in the middle east start lobbing nukes at eachother it will certainly be over. If not for Isreal being wiped-out for ever and ever it would probably be a blessing but Isreal cant be allowed to be decimated at any cost, but here in the last couple days or so it almost (too close to almost) sounds like our leaders are taking sides with the bad guys. Just save one for yourself.

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    • Jefferson
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:08pm

      Why do you think Ron Paul supporters have been so passionate, and even rude and militant in some cases?
      We’ve been AWARE of the PLANNED meltdown that we are on the verge of.
      They want to bring what they call “order out of chaos” or a New World Order.

      These people plan DECADES in advance.

      They OWN the media. They’ve infiltrated our system of Govt. They OWN the banking systems that control our economy. They plan to IMPLODE the economy on purpose!!

      This is why they try to get you to think that Ron Paul is “unelectable” or “too soft on foreign policy,” because they are SCARED that people will begin to catch on to what he has been WARNING us about for almost 30 YEARS!!
      That is why they try to ignore or marginalize him at all costs. Even to the point of announcing 1st,3rd,4th, and 5th place in the Iowa straw poll. (who came in 2nd??)

      We have ONE chance to get it right.
      That chance IS Ron Paul.
      Iran potentially getting a nuke PALES in comparison to a world wide economic collapse, and disruption in this country like you have never seen.

      Kissinger once said (paraphrasing) that the USA would NEVER allow UN troops on their shores, but there will come a day where we will be begging them to save us.
      They are at work CREATING those conditions.

      You want to control a country? Control the currency.
      You want to control the people? Control the food.

      Our enemy is not in some far away land. It’s right HERE at home.

      WAKE UP!! THE HOUSE IS ON FIRE!!

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    • Fella
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:23pm

      Just think of all the warnings that have been ignored in favor of the false premise that RP’s foreign policy is naive. lol Honestly, good luck getting through to some of the doubters, Jefferson. It’s not even hard to understand anymore, it’s just simple mathematics, yet these warnings will be ignored too. Go NEWT! rofl

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    • Jefferson
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:45pm

      @FELLA
      I hear you. I have appreciated your efforts here, and haven’t had a chance to recognize it.
      I’m still trying to hold out hope for some of these folks. Many of them still think the media is “fair and balanced.”
      They have been given 60% of the truth by GB, but haven’t the slightest clue of what the other 40% is.

      I know we will have a clear conscience by trying to warn some of these people. The blame will be on them if they don’t wake up in time.
      Hope to see you on the DailyPaul.com sometime. I post as “Jefferson” there as well.

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    • GeorgieBaby
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:10pm

      @JEFFERSON – Don’t take credit for preparedness. Ron Paul, nor his supporters invented the movement. Many have been doing it long before Ron Paul ever entered the arena, and were warning of the same evils. Tone it down buddy. Breathe.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:55pm

      Ron Paul has been warning since the crap of 1983 — and LOTS of stuff in between:
      Video condenses history
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evYwPJUY_cc

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    • GeorgieBaby
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 6:08pm

      @VECHOIK – Others have been talking about preparedness long before Ron Paul was even born. For instance, the L.D.S. Church has been teaching preparedness and food storage for the last few hundred years. You can trace the counsel to be prepared back to Brigham Young as well as the foreshadowing of events of our day.

      My parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents were preparing.

      So….Ron Paul really doesn’t have the scoop on the issue.

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    • GeorgieBaby
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 6:10pm

      @VICHORIK – I just realized my math mistake. It’s not hundreds of years, but the last 176 years.

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    • Ookspay
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 7:16pm

      GEORGIEBABY @VECHOIK – Others have been talking about preparedness long before Ron Paul was even born. For instance, the L.D.S. Church has been teaching preparedness and food storage for the last few hundred years. You can trace the counsel to be prepared back to Brigham Young as well as the foreshadowing of events of our day.

      Uhhuh… And Paul in revelations said the end times would be SOON, two thousand years ago! Even though Jesus said no man will no the end of times…

      Nothing wrong with being prepared, but be careful in whom you believe, lest you invoke self-fulfilling prophecies.

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    • lketchum
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 10:52pm

      @Kiba

      Do not fear. Trust God and do as the Holy Spirit guides you to do. You know that to prepare yourself in all accounts is what so many have heard – beginning with your soul and heart. The rest follows, without fear, or fuss, quite naturally. Your family will benefit greatly from such an example of leadership and calm. Among God’s creatures, we are resolute and capable of great good. I am certain that with God’s love and help, we will find our way.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 10:20am

      The difference is: Ron Paul has been talking about this SPECIFIC FINANCIAL problem of America — the other “be prepared” warnings are vague fear-for-no-reason.

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  • Centralsville
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:40pm

    We are living with a generation of spoiled rotten Americans. A generation where the liberal government has divided us into groups and pitted us against each other. In the best of times we rob, murder and beat each other then the liberals make every excuse in the world for the bad behavior. If the bottom falls out America will be hell on earth. Your gold will not protect you unless you use it surreptitiously, before the government confiscates it, to get out. The 1 percent won’t be safe in their walled communities in this country. In rural areas where the people are more homogeneous, still believe in God, and are all armed it won’t be as bad. In the large cities where the different ethnic gangs are all armed and the law abiding citizens aren’t, it will be horrible. We are not the same country we were during past crises. We are Godless now. Liberalism has destroyed us.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:47pm

      Speak for yourself. I’m an individual, not part of some lumpen proletariat collective. I ain’t down, until I’m down, and not a moment sooner. Real Americans don’t accept defeat; you’d best be advised to stand up, dust off, and get back in the fight. No battle was ever won by soldiers who sat wallowing in self pity and defeat right as the heat of the battle was about to occur.

      Get right, friend, there’s a fight ahead of us and we need you to do your part to help.

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    • sgtstubbs
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 8:42pm

      It is said that change is one the way…It has been also said that the U.S.A will be divided into several Counties, connected by the U.S. Constution. United but divided. This was stated over 100 years ago by a Mentalist, who’s name escapes me. It could happen because it would impower those who vote.

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  • RaiderNationKissArmy
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:38pm

    “The end of the world as we know it.”
    My grandparents said it would be the end of the world as we know it if a socialist is ever in the White House. — check
    My faith told me it would be the end if sex with animals became legal – check

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    • ConstitutionalPatriot
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:45pm

      Excellent . . . I couldn’t have said it better.

      Monetary system worthless . . . . Check

      1000 rounds of 30-6 and a M1 Gurand . . . PRICELESS

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    • Xpat48
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:46pm

      I wish you were not right, but I’m afraid you. Take care friend.

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  • primusmaxx
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:37pm

    To heck with the 99% I am tired of hearing that. It is really the 48% that pay the darn taxes. Why is it always people versus people. It is government and the 500 or so in power that has caused the problems and incite people against people ..It’s eally people versus government! The 48% !!

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    • Abraham Young
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:52pm

      What they really mean is, they are the 99 Weekers, the 99 weeks they spent on unemployment, rather than create their own future.

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    • US_SOLDIER
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 5:22am

      It is not anyone against anyone. If you think in a divided nature then you will go down divided. It was never us against them. Last I checked this is OUR country and those on whichever opposing side you chose are a part of our country. I see this flaw through out society and across the globe. If people would only wake up and realize that good vs evil, us vs them is all a scheme to divide you. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A TERRORIST. Sounds crazy right? well think of it this way, to them they are freedom fighters and we are in there holy land (Saudi Arabia). Now imagine, as they were before (the crusades) if they were in Jerueselum, how would you react? WAR! because it happened what three times? We view them as terrorists because they kill my brothers and sisters but from their point of view they are freedom fighters trying to oust the foriegn invaders. They are evil according to us and we are evil according to them, therefore it is all a matter of perspective. So stop willfully dividing yourself and recognize that you are but one side of a group

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  • Gypsy123
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:31pm

    Why do you think they put horse in the grocery store I talked to a farmer the price of Beef next year is going out the roof

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    • PPMStudios
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:52pm

      Here‘s a question I haven’t been able to find the answer for. This summer, while Texas was going through that huge drought, it was all over the news that the ranchers were forced to sell of their beef. Well, why are beef prices still going up? It seems to me that all that ‘new’ beef flooding the market should have driven the price of beef through the floor.

      But it hasn’t. Why?? Anyone know??

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:01pm

      Lil Timmy printed 1.X trillion new dollars out of thin air. That caused and is causing rampant inflation in a real world sense (not the government measures, which omit things we actually buy). Everything is more expensive now, and it’s going to get even moreso. The Europe crisis may bump us up for a bit, but that’s temporary at best (safe haven, which will be discovered shortly, we ain’t).

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    • RamboC4
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:24pm

      I’m a beef producer. There was a large liquidation of cattle from the previous drought. The average age of ranchers I believe is over 60 and many don’t have another generation who wants to take over, they are taking advantage of the high prices and retiring. The current national cattle herd is where it was in the 50′s and will take a long time to rebuild.

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:36pm

      I don’t do beef so maybe Ramboc4 you could correct me if I am wrong.
      Don’t the cattle have to gain weight and mature before they are ready to be sold off, so if you are selling early, the cattle are not as heavy as they would normally be and thus, less meat from each?

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    • RamboC4
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 6:32pm

      Yes and No. I’m a grassfed producer which takes about 24 months to get animals ready for slaughter, but feedlots can do it in about 18 months. These are cow/calf producers selling off their animals, they then go to the feedlots. Feedlots aren’t operating at full capacity, they are in the business of selling yardage space and feed. With a lower number of feeder cattle available they are forced to pay more. What is making up the difference for now is people are selling their “replacement heifers.” Heifers are females that haven’t had a calf. Normally you keep a portion of them to replace cows who are unproductive or old. People are selling their replacements and herd sizes in some ares have decreased. This also means the national herd is continuing to decrease and hasn’t begun to rebuild. Further, beef prices have not kept up with the increasing cost of inputs. Beef prices have not doubled in 20 years, but a new pickup is more then 10 times as expensive as it was 20 years ago.

      I don’t do beef so maybe Ramboc4 you could correct me if I am wrong.
      Don’t the cattle have to gain weight and mature before they are ready to be sold off, so if you are selling early, the cattle are not as heavy as they would normally be and thus, less meat from each?

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    • 1NJslave
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 6:58pm

      The drought caused the farmer to sell his herd early, he would have seen his investments die in the field. Of course the price of beef will be astronomical next year. The price did not go down this year because everyone is grabbing as much money as possible. There will not be as much beef available next year. Food shortages are coming, but not before gas rationing. Watch for more Gov’t land grabbing, especially land w/water.
      When I heard about the deals between CBP & BLM it made alot of sense why BLM would charge CBP to go after the illegals crossing the border. Not to repair the damages from CBP but to buy more land in the more desirable locations. Feel free to correct me folks, but I‘ve been told nearly 80 percent of Utah is owned by the federal gov’t. Nice piece of real estate to be sitting on, unless Yosemite blows it’s lid.

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  • Gypsy123
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:27pm

    Working to get ready but don’t know if we will ever be prepared for what is coming. Starving people not a pretty site

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    • mils
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:41pm

      also wondering what good “gold” will be…governmens will tell you to turn in your gold coins as they have done before…
      we have invested in other things..food, shelter, clothing, necessities of life..we have been “preparing” for several years..some gold is good..not all gold though.
      I don’t know that we can ever be prepared for the stupidity of mankind…

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    • Mikev5
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:51pm

      only Gold in hand is good but most don’t have that they own a piece of paper that says they have Gold this is worthless.

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    • nonofmybiznez
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:38pm

      And why would we comply?

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  • Mapache
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:23pm

    I am ready for the zombies. It is going to get nasty and I think next summer will be like 1968 with the difference that the zombies will operate with impunity and egged on by the president. The flash mobs we see raiding convenience and clothing stores are just the beginning…the OWS groups were simply a dry run to evaluate political and law enforcement response so they know what cities are vulnerable.
    Not sure how much use gold will be as most people would have no way to test or evaluate it but everyone understands FMJ.

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    • chisao101
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:30pm

      Gold may not help out a whole lot as far as protecting your family and keeping them fed, but bullets will. Hunting, fishing, and keeping unfriendlies out,,,oh yeah, like Glenn’s been saying for over a year now GET OUT OF THE CITIES!!!!

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  • diggyorange
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:21pm

    What will a collapse look like with Obama as the president should he win re-election?

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    • bernbart
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:28pm

      I guess you forgot the collaspe happened in 2008 under Bush because of deregulation.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:34pm

      It will look (and be) very, very, very bad.
      Of course it could be the same no matter who wins…..the country is so far down the road to self-destruction it may not be possible to turn the tide without a major collapse.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:41pm

      Oh Bernbart, please. The boilerplate doesn’t fly any longer, I’m sorry, you need to find new material. Not a person now doesn’t know about Dodd-Frank and the banking regulators.

      New material – you needs it!

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    • barnsy
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:58pm

      The financial collapse of 2008 wasnt because of deregulation.Banks were pressured by the government to make risky loans to people who had no business getting them(the liberal idea that everyone should own a home wether you could afford it or not).Many banks didnt mind because federally sponsered Fanny and Freddy would buy the bad loans.Who fought increased oversite of Fanny and Freddy?Barney Frank and Chris Dodd.But it was Bushes fault right? His only fault was not standing up to these clowns.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 7:47pm

      Oh Bernbart you think that blip in 08 was a collapse? hahahahaha I can tell you’ll be fine when the collapse really happens.

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    • Komponist-ZAH
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 8:35pm

      Bern—

      What deregulation, exactly?

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  • garyM
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:21pm

    I guess when all this happens we can join the 99% down on Wall Street. LOL The best I remember from what I was told by my Grandparents and Parent the Wall Street guys were so devastated they jumped out of windows and killed themselves during the Great Depression because they lost so much money, although it was very tough, the poor people made it, because the change wasn’t so drastic as it was for the rich!

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  • martinez012577
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:19pm

    This is why I used to watch Glenn every day. The reason I dont anymore, is because he can have a show like this and then support warmongers like Bachman and Santorum. Neither of which have even come close to Ron Pauls real cuts of 1 trillion the first year.

    We are not here to protect Israel. They are fine, we are broke!!!

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    • pandora
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:41pm

      Ron Paul has time and time again proven himself to be a fringe candidate. He has no appeal to those who expect the US to have a logical foreign policy. Paul is not smart in this area. He will always be perceived as a radical. A vote for Paul is a vote for Obama at this stage of the game.

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    • Fella
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:37pm

      @Pandora, what do you think U.S. Foreign policy will be after an economic collapse? Just curious. lol

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    • RejectFalseIcons
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:06pm

      Logical Foreign Policy?

      How is the Bachmann/Bush/Obama/Gingrich/Santorum/establishment foreign policy at all logical?

      Please, state the facts by which you are reasoning. If we’re going to talk logic, let’s look at things that are objective and true.

      Ron Paul’s foreign policy is based on the FACT that you cannot control others without initiating force. The initiation of force cannot possibly happen without causing damage. Damage to a person’s life, liberty or their pursuit of happiness is a crime against the victim’s inalienable rights, which ALL men share. Therefore, the initiation of force is a crime. Therefore, we are committing a crime whenever we initiate force. This is true in all internal actions, and all foreign actions as well.

      How long can we lead the double standard, where Americans are created equal, but the rest of the world is somehow less than us? Let’s treat them as equals – let them run their parts of the world as they see fit. Be ready to respond should any of them make the miscalculation that the price of aggression against the US is cheap.

      We cannot micromanage the world. We cannot centrally plan for the world. We cannot pretend that the world does not envy us, nor can we pretend that we are doing anything but murdering people in far off lands. Bin Laden is dead, we have taken vengeance – bring our soldiers home, let the world run itself, and we’ll run ourselves too.

      Globalism is globalism whether it’s bankers or s

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:49pm

      PANDORA, do you know Ron Paul’s foreign policy? It’s misrepresented so often, I’ll bet 1/2 the public is misled.

      Ron Paul stands with Israel:
      http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/paul-israel-support-wead/2011/12/07/id/420247#

      Ron Paul Blowback and Why They Hate Us
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_dd8WS0oOc

      Dr. Paul is the only one that doesn’t support aborting jewish babies in the holy land.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 10:17am

      Newsmax reporter did an excellent job defining Dr. Paul’s stand with Israel (if anyone cares for the truth)

      http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/paul-israel-support-wead/2011/12/07/id/420247?s=al&promo_code=DAB4-1

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  • garyM
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:17pm

    I’m confused here now, Is Romney running against Newt or Teddy Roosevelt? LOL Or is it Newt running against Jimmy Carter?

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  • garyM
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:15pm

    Beck has give Romney the political trash rhetoric to run with on Newt, let’s see how quick he does, You know Ann Coulter said while talking with Beck, “Glenn I know Romney has SECRETLY told you everything”! But Beck is for Backmann right??????????

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    • GeorgieBaby
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:24pm

      Nah, Ann Coulter has it wrong. If anything Glenn Beck is listening and talking to the Huntsman clan. The Huntsman and Romney clan had a split when Jon Jr. pledged to back Romney and join his campaign for the 2008 election. Romney gave Jon Jr. lots of inside campaign strategy and trusted Jon Jr. Then Jon Jr. broke his word and then joined the McCain campaign and took all of this inside information from Romney to McCain.

      There isn‘t a lot of love between the Huntsman’s and the Romney’s. The Huntsman’s still have their nose bent out of shape over Romney getting the position for the 2002 Olympics in Salt Lake. They were hoping Jon Jr. would get the position, and have some serious sour grapes over the issue. They wanted a Huntsman to fix the problems with the 2002 Olympics.

      Remember how close Glenn is to Huntsman Sr., and how he calls him a mentor. Also remember that Glenn is always saying he doesn’t trust Romney. I would say that this has more to do with the Huntsman influence than he is actually willing to admit to his audience. Given the Huntsman family recent history of political deception, the Huntsman family sour grapes, the likelihood that Glenn has drunk the Huntsman Kool Aid concerning Romney, I am more likely to think that Romney doesn’t trust Glenn Beck. That is why he doesn’t come on the show.

      I think that Ann Coulter was probably insinuating that because the two are Mormon that they have had off the record conversations. I doubt it.

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    • GeorgieBaby
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:35pm

      Also, I think that Beck is on damage control when it comes to Newt Gingrich. Unfortunately there are a lot of evangelicals that would vote for Newt before they would vote for Romney, who would be a much better candidate. This is why he has been talking so much about Teddy Roosevelt, and comparing him to Newt. He has also softened his stance on Romney a bit since the Newt interview. I believe he sees the writing on the wall, and that it has boiled down to Romney or Newt.

      For Romney, his real problem lies with the bigotry of the religious far right. No matter what anyone says, this is the real challenge he faces. Remember, during the last Primary cycle he was the true conservative in the race and received a lot of support from the people who now bash him. Glenn Beck is trying to convince those who would vote for Newt just because they are anti-Mormon that they are making a HUGE mistake. Which they truly are. And to split the ticket would be to give Obama another term (spare me the rhetoric Ron Paul people).

      Bachman and Santorum will most likely be a V.P. pick for whomever wins the nomination so that they will bring in the Tea Party element and support to the ticket. That is the reality of the current situation, whether people like it or not.

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    • GeorgieBaby
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 5:46pm

      One other thing. It wouldn’t surprise me to see Jon Huntsman Jr. move to the Obama camp in some capacity when he doesn’t win the nomination. Perhaps he might replace Biden, and attract the moderate democrat/independent vote. For someone who is not trying very hard to win the nomination, I wonder why he is even in the race. There is another agenda here. Keep your eye on Huntsman Jr. He’s a sneaky guy.

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  • blaaaaackwoman
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:07pm

    The wealthy 1% will be fine. They’ll be able to buy up properties at pennies to the dollar from the bottom 99% who are better know as the 99% suckers

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    • Mannax
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:15pm

      Gotta hang on to your class warfare don’t you?

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    • sta
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:15pm

      You can’t eat property and many of the people that you would call the 1% today, lost everything in the Great Depression.

      Class Warfare much?

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    • Hollywood
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:17pm

      YOU have the opportunity to make a living for yourself, buy a home, payoff your mortgage,and save like MANY have. Being envious of the so called 1% does nothing, but point out your lack of character.
      Yes, there are corruptocrats,and some are in the 1%. There are MANY more on Wall street,working with the Banksters who will not suffer. Direct your anger at the appropraite people. The Pols,too, who did not enforce the PRESENT laws. They are corrupt!

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    • RightUnite
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:21pm

      More Blahblahblahblah from the liberal tool blaaaaackwoman… Not surprising….

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:27pm

      @blaaaaackwoman

      Apparently you are part of the 1% or have such a lack of self-esteem that think of yourself as a “sucker”.
      Either way your comments are only to deride others – not to contribute anything intelligent to the discussion.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:36pm

      oops “that think ” should be “that you think”
      My apologies to the grammar police

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    • Tired-of-fools
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:38pm

      I guess that means you will be one of the suckers.

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  • Secessionista
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:06pm

    I am ready.

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  • Lloyd Drako
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:05pm

    Love the headline, right next to the ad for “the only gold company I use and recommend.” No wonder it’s hard for GB to keep a straight face; he can’t believe how easy it is to panic people into buying the stuff. Very classy.

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    • Slayer
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:13pm

      And would people have been wrong for buying gold a year ago? Five years ago? Ten years ago? No, they’d be looking at some tremendous increases in their investment.
      And do tell us how things are getting better economically so that investing in paper and not physical makes sense.
      We await your reply.

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    • broker0101
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:16pm

      He’s a Brilliant Huckster. I commend Glenn for his ingenuity and success and admire him for it. His Followers, on the other hand…. pitiful.

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    • Mannax
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:17pm

      Loyd is one of those who didn’t understand the article that he read.

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    • Hollywood
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:26pm

      I bought 100 oz of Gold at 828/oz in late 2008. How much did you buy? NONE? OH , TOOBAD!

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:32pm

      You’d have done fantastically well to buy gold five or ten years ago. Obviously. Buy when you don’t have panic-mongers on every other screen warning of the collapse of the world as we know it. When you do have everyone from G. Gordon Liddy to Rachel Maddow screaming at you to buy now, it’s already too late. The market is near the top and primed for a final draft of hapless peasants offering up their life savings.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:43pm

      @Drak

      And it comes down to “so what?”, then.

      People who make economic mistakes, will learn from those mistakes. Those who do not make mistakes and invest for sound reasons, regardless of the advertising will do well. In either event, that’s how the market is supposed to work, and I approve of those outcomes.

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    • GeorgieBaby
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 6:00pm

      At some point, even gold will be worthless. You can’t eat metal. For people who are not prepared, or have some preparations, it would be better to invest in food, clothing, fuel, shelter (who says we’ll be sitting snugly at home?), transportation, and other necessities than metals. I’ve heard a saying from a leader in my church that during these times of peril, a pound of wheat will be more valuable than gold.

      Every year for Christmas, my parents give some sort of preparedness item. One year they gave us a large First Aid bag with some first aid items in it. I have added sooooo much more to my First Aid bag, have one for the car, and for 72 hour kits.

      I am very much into preparedness, and my mother asked what I would like for Christmas (they are giving rice to my siblings, and I have oodles of rice). This year I have requested a sewing kit. Not just any sewing kit, but a tackle box full of things like needles, patches, crochet hooks, pins, threads of differing colors and strengths, etc… These are the things that will be worth more than gold and will be very much needed.

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    • riseandshine
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 9:37pm

      Georgia Baby….Love the post. Thank You

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    • KICKILLEGALSOUT
      Posted on December 8, 2011 at 12:46am

      Yes, those poor fools who followed Beck and bought Gold at $800 an ounce and have more than doubled their wealth. I can’t believe that people are still talking nonsense like this, you just make yourself look like a complete ignoramus. You just keep holding on to those cotton dollars and see how they work for you in a few years. You might need some soft cotton toilet paper.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on December 9, 2011 at 11:03am

      Far be it from me to offer investment advice! But I do know Crass when i see it, and GB’s Goldline blurb right next to the lead for this story is Crass, yall!

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  • broker0101
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:04pm

    You’re preaching to the choir here on The Blaze, Jim.

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    • UlyssesP
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:27pm

      You’re blazing to the jimmies here on the preacher, choir.

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  • Alecto
    Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:03pm

    My parents were born during the Great Depression. I’ve heard them talk about food shortages, and what WWII did (rationing, no groceries on the shelves, no meat, no gas, no building supplies). I wouldn’t wish this on anyone, not my worst enemy, but I think the one upside it may have it that there’s a chance that America may find its moral compass again. Nothing like hardship to make people turn (back) to God.

    Rogers was in bed with Soros? Seriously? Makes him untrustworthy in my book.

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    • rush_is_right
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:14pm

      yeah well like it or not, soros knows a great deal about finance, markets, and money.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:36pm

      I don’t think government enforced rationing, due to a government caused financial collapse, where government enacts confiscatory taxation levels, and then where government conspired to anger the Japanese enough to attack (yes, yes they did) in order to get us into an economy boosting war, all the while erecting massive wasteful government programs that extended the downturn into over a decade, will help us find our moral compass. It may however make many of us really, really angry. We’re not ignorant of their intentions, this time around, like we were in the 1930′s.

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    • booger71
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 3:40pm

      I thought Glenn hated Soros, but now he has his buddy on his show. This guy was on Fox (the Judges show) last night saying the same thing

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    • romadave
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 4:23pm

      Rogers is no longer with Soros? Makes him trustworthy in my book.

      Rogers is no longer with Soros? Maybe he knows a few things about Soros. Maybe he is telling Glenn a few things about Soros.

      Rogers teaches at Columbia? Maybe he is telling Glenn a few things about Columbia.

      Gosh, people. How do you think Glenn comes to know so many things about Soros, Tides Foundation, Columbia, etc?

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