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Iran Says It Won’t Return Captured U.S. Spy Drone, Will Use it to Simulate Their Own

Iran Says It Wont Return Captured U.S. Spy Drone

This photo released Thursday, Dec. 8, 2011 by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard claims to show US RQ-170 Sentinel drone which Tehran says its forces downed last week. A Revolutionary Guard commander said Sunday Iran will not return the captured drone. (AP Photo/Sepahnews)

TEHRAN, Iran (The Blaze/AP) — Iran will not return the purported U.S. surveillance drone captured by its armed forces, and will instead use it as a model to create their own, officials said Sunday.

Gen. Hossein Salami, deputy head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, said in remarks broadcast on state television that the violation of Iran’s airspace by the U.S. drone was a “hostile act” and warned of a “bigger” response. He did not elaborate on what Tehran might do.

“No one returns the symbol of aggression to the party that sought secret and vital intelligence related to the national security of a country,” Salami said.

A senior Iranian parliamentary official told the country’s official Fars News Agency that Iran has the capability to “simulate” what Iranian military officials identified as the RQ-170 Sentinel drone.

“Relying on their scientific capabilities, the Armed Forces will be able to simulate the RQ-170 aircraft soon,” the vice chairman of the parliamentary National Security and Foreign Policy Commission, Hossein Ebrahimi, told Fars.

Iranian state media have said the unmanned spy aircraft was detected over the eastern town of Kashmar, some 140 miles from the border with Afghanistan. U.S. officials have acknowledged losing the drone.

Salami called its capture a victory for Iran and a defeat for the U.S. in a complicated intelligence and technological battle.

“Iran is among the few countries that possesses the most modern technology in the field of pilotless drones. The technology gap between Iran and the U.S. is not much,” he said.

Officers in the Guard, Iran’s most powerful military force, had previously claimed that the country’s armed forces brought down the surveillance aircraft with an electronic ambush, causing minimum damage to the drone.

American officials have said that U.S. intelligence assessments indicate that Iran neither shot the drone down, nor used electronic or cybertechnology to force it from the sky. They contend the drone malfunctioned. The officials had spoken anonymously in order to discuss the classified program.

But Salami refused to provide more details of Iran’s claim to have captured the CIA-operated aircraft.

“A party that wins in an intelligence battle doesn’t reveal its methods. We can’t elaborate on the methods we employed to intercept, control, discover and bring down the pilotless plane,” he said.

This article has been updated since it was first published.

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  • plugthedamnhole
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:57am

    It wasn’t shot down…….

    It did not crash……..

    It was not captured in a butterfly net…….

    can you say ….. Even More Fast and More Furious ?????

    If you think it would not be done just think of 2000+ guns given to the Mexicans and Hamas south of our boarder. Obama is spreading the guns and weapons around too.

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    • NoRoomForSocialismHere
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:16am

      The POTUS is making sure OUR enemies are getting all they want.
      Who was flying it? one of our honorable illegal aliens

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    • John 1776
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:17am

      Might be harder to duplicate then one would expect. I had the pleasure of seeing how the military handles control circuit boards. None of the chips or other components can have labels or part numbers. Basically, you have a board with a lot of little black squares. Can’t really Xray a microchip and get enough resolution as the chip circuit has a chunk of metal fused to the top. usually done on ceramic, and then cased in epoxy. Can be done, but is very hard and will take a lot of time.

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    • NoRoomForSocialismHere
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:18am

      That is from the B-2 design, which was our best under the radar bird we had

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    • KickinBack
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:20am

      You‘d think they could’ve added a remote self-destruct for it.

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    • Armed Patriot
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:20am

      If I were the President I would destroy a RNG base and give 12 hours to return the drone to American forces. After 12 hours I would destroy, I mean utterly destroy, another RNG base. I would continue to decimate their military until the drone was repatriated. The spoils of war go to the victor. The war (Iranian missile base outside of Tehran) and (uranium enrichment plant in Isfahan) has already begun. Iran will lose due to Israel, UK, and reluctantly (unfortunately due to this WEAK resident) the US. Time to open up Diego Garcia and let loose the steel rain from ghosts in the night. Time to unleash the dogs of hell to make this world a safer place by killing thousands of Aryans. Ironic????

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    • Armed Patriot
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:23am

      I cant imagine why this didnt have a self destruct button on it. In the future, with such highly sensitive systems, maybe they should.

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    • singleparent
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:27am

      if we was not in everyones business they would not have gotten that drone….can you say ron paul? bring are military home where it belongs…..

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    • flagbearer
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:31am

      I agree. I have wondered why, with all our technology, there is no self-destruct mechanism that could be detonated. These drones are operated from faraway distances, so I don‘t want to hear that it can’t be done. What better way for the American people to be duped into thinking that it was “captured,“ when in reality it is a way of ”spreading the technology” to help bring down America. No one can be accused of selling our secrets. Folks, you better wake up BEFORE 2012.

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    • backandtotheleft
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 12:03pm

      Much like the helicopter in the so called Bin Laden takedown

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    • plugthedamnhole
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 12:05pm

      Once again…………

      It wasn’t shot down…….

      It did not crash……..

      It was not captured in a butterfly net…….

      can you say ….. Even More Fast and More Furious ?????

      How did Iran end up with this…???? Looks like we landed it on their runway. No bullet holes, no skids on the wings.

      Consider this a gift to Iran. We landed it there on their runway. (i could be wrong but we just gave several thousand guns to the Mexicans, why not a drone? )

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    • escape_from_socialism
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 12:22pm

      And the history repeat itself. Before WWII, US “sponsored” 3th Reich, with money(Prescott Bush) and technology.

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 12:28pm

      GREAT POINT PLUGTHEDAMNHOLE …. HOW TRUE!!! Doesn’t look like ANY damage to it.’
      1) Why don’t we have all such devices able to self-destruct (Mission Impossible) ???

      2) The Obama “philosophy” (more like doctrine) is that the USA should NOT be militarily superior to any other nation – and/or the fact that he’s a one-worlder Marxist and/or Muslim Plant keeps proving itself…doesn’t it. I’m so disgusted. I’m pretty sure that NEWT is the ONLY one who can stop this nonsense…Last night Romney floundered about enforcement…like what NEWT said (the truth) was ‘too harsh”…good grief!!! All we need is another McCain… This “capture” (probably more like a special delivery) of this drone is proof positive that we have THIS ONE ELECTION or forgetabout it.

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    • Citizen1
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 12:34pm

      I think you’re right, just another “provocation” to justify a future act of WAR with Iran.
      and
      BHO is spreading the “wealth” aka assualt rifles to help fan the Drug War flames.

      After all, how else are they going to justify and keep the POLICE STATE funded… ??
      You know, disarm the people and build a standing army INSIDE our borders.

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    • Love_John_Galt
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 12:36pm

      And everyone wants to beat up on Ron Paul for ‘letting’ them have nukes (which they haven’t had any success in building) .. heck we’ll just give them our weapons. What a joke!

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    • chazman
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 1:13pm

      … I still don’t believe that is an American drone. I need more proof than just photos supplied by a lyin’ pack of muslim murderers!!!

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    • YoungBloodNews
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 1:18pm

      China will help them reverse engineer it. There was a keylogger scandal at a drone AFB awhile back. They acquired the frequencies to these drones and were able to hack into it – hence Iran ‘testing’ new Electronic weapons a couple weeks back (they call the drones ‘the beast’) and took preemptive measures to stop it as they saw the damage it could do in neighboring countries…

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    • JMorcan
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 1:29pm

      Whoever decided to place security-related high tech in such a vulnerable craft should be court-martialed. This is no different that the stupid bastards that load unencrypted national security data onto online servers.

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    • netmail
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 1:33pm

      Bottom line, I would LOVE to know what Obama is currently doing about this behind the scenes. My guess is he is polishing his balls on the 9th hole about now, but I don’t know. Wish I did.

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    • NOBAMA201258
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 1:59pm

      Iran wants a nuclear weapon,maybe we should send them one

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    • IronSights
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 2:01pm

      Even our communications equipment from the late 60‘s early 70’s era had a means of rendering it useless. The drone looks pretty well in tact for being “shoot” down. What did they use, a Red Rider BB gun?

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    • NOBAMA201258
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 2:02pm

      Why send a drone when we have spy satellites?

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    • rc30
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 2:06pm

      Well if some people would grow some balls. Blow it up don’t let this fall to the wrong people.

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    • rush_is_right
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 3:16pm

      you can bet our friends the Russians, and smiling uncle Vlad, gave the iranians the technology to take over that drone….it didn’t crash, and it wasn’t shot down…

      this makes any attack on iran VERY problematic for the US or Israel….

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    • Scaz
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 3:16pm

      @KickinBack
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:20am
      “You‘d think they could’ve added a remote self-destruct for it.”

      I was thinking the same thing. That thing looks so intact, it looks like it landed at Tehran International Airport. Why not have a way to self-destruct, like when it hits the ground.

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    • rush_is_right
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 3:27pm

      “Why not have a way to self-destruct, like when it hits the ground.”

      from the reports, it does have a self-destruct…but the entire drone was taken over by the iranians….

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    • VoteBushIn12
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:39pm

      The Iranians hacked it and took over its controls I’m sure.

      The drone has to communicate with a human pilot somewhere using some sort of radio signal. If you can intercept the signal and crack the code you can issue your own commands and, effectively, steal it in flight.

      Why didn’t the self destruct the drone? If you’re no longer the captain in the cockpit you really have no say over where it goes or what it does.

      And all of you in favor of bombing Iran to get the drone back – seriously? After how everyone on this forum reacted to Libya and the national discontent with the wars in the middle east, you want to start ANOTHER one?

      Not an option. Let Iran have the drone, we got plenty more and, I’m sure, plenty more advanced technology already being built.

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    • BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:47pm

      Well, it is only FAIR that Iran has equal intelligence/resources to our own (Sarcasm intended). But think about this for a second. If Obama is truly for world equality why should we be surprised if we found out that that equality extends to even how well equipped a military is or isn’t. Sharing and spreading knowledge is just as important to the Socialist agenda as sharing/spreading wealth.

      To Iran- What a bunch of losers you are. You can’t do ANYTHING on your own. Only on the backs of others have you come as far as you have.

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    • johnpaulkuchtajr
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:20pm

      Ten years ago, I would have raised the BS flag on your comment.

      Now, I shrug my shoulders and say “Probably.”

      Why did Obama not support the Iranian street protestors in 2009? Why doesn’t he go to the aid of the Syrian people like he did in Egypt and Libya?

      When are the American electorate demand impeachment?

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    • GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:42pm

      Notice how relying on the fed gov only puts us in GREATER DANGER.

      We are our own worst enemy when putting faith in them.

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:51pm

      Exactly. Why would they return something that was given to them?

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 5:52pm

      I see what they are doing. They are providing the Mid-East with the same technology Israel has, and saying “May the best Nation win.”

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    • oooJASONooo
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 6:03pm

      how do yall know it aint no self destruct mechanism contained within the circuitry that would cause massive damage when tampered with? maybe it does somethin similar to the die packs in money stacks that get handed out in bank robberies jus on a major scale.
      also, why would this guy (in the comments) suggest bombin rng bases because they captured a spy drone? one spy drone is a lot of money, but it doesnt seem to be cripplin anything. but bomb those bases because of the spy drone and then we instantly hear bout the US bein overly aggressive and unjust and killin innocent ppl because we lost a unmanned spy tool in violation of that nation’s privacy. there we go with more troops back in action and another recession to blame on whatever side (left or right) isnt yours.

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    • robert
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 7:09pm

      VoteBushIn12
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 4:39pm
      “The Iranians hacked it and took over its controls I’m sure.”

      Gee, what a brilliant observation. It must be your“science” degree that equips you with such incredible insight. Hahahahaha.

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    • hillarie
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 7:51pm

      I’m afraid you might be right. My question is, why can’t we remotely fry it? Locate it and destroy it by scrambling up everything electronic inside it?

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    • Clara88
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:16pm

      Please support Gov Rick Perry for President…a conservative AND a veteran..GOD BLESS
      http://www.rickperry.org/

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    • Clara88
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:21pm

      Gov. Rick Perry…

      “The idea this president now, with Iran getting one of our predator drones in their possession, and he had opportunities — he had two choices. Actually, he had three. He chose the worse. And those two opportunities he had was to either retrieve that drone or to destroy it. And he did the worst of the three. And he did absolutely nothing. And the Russians and the Chinese will have our highly technical equipment now. This president IS the problem,” Perry said at the ABC News debate in Des Moines, Iowa

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    • VoteBushIn12
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:28pm

      @Robert

      Well the Americans are clearly claiming the contrary. I was simply implying that the Iranians are telling the truth and the Americans are lying.

      You probably didn’t get that vibe from the one sentence you quoted. There is such a thing as “context” which means a lot in a conversation – why don’t you try finding some and then get back to me.

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    • VoteBushIn12
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:31pm

      @Clara88

      Yeah, Perry does seem to have a hard time with numbers. Was it two options or was it three? How many programs is he going to cut funding for?

      I was going to vote for him, but “…oops”

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    • YoungBloodNews
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 8:48pm

      Well HERE IS THE PROOF IT WAS HACKED AND LANDED:

      http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1726529/pg1

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    • Clara88
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 9:02pm

      So… do you prefer Mitt OR Newt???? NOTTTTTTT MEEEEEEEEEEEEE

      Veterans are supporting a VETERAN….Gov Rick Perry
      Our military deserves a Commander In Chief they can be PROUD of and RESPECT
      GOD BLESS OUR BRAVE MILITARY AND OUR BELOVED BRAVE VETERANS
      http://www.rickperry.org/veterans/

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    • robert
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 9:12pm

      To protect ourselves better we need to look at this situation in stark reality. Iran has the technology to reverse engineer anything, so long as they have possession of it. The tecnological data used in this drone has been effectively neutralized by Iran in so far as its value to the US is concerned now. China might not get a crack at it, but Russia will, because Iran will use it as a bargaining tool in order to get more upgraded Russian technology.

      Right now Iran has Russian-made Sunburn anti-ship cruise missiles that streak along just above the water at about 2.5 mach speed and make so many violent end maneuvers it’s virtually impossible to defend against them. It is these missiles that could well put some of our best ships at the bottom of the Persian Gulf if Israel is foolish enough to attack Iran. A target ship has less than one second to react, which is vitually impossible.

      Russia has also supplied Iran with their S-300 anti-missile/anti-aircraft defense systems which is capable of decimating the Israeli air force if an attack is made.

      If attacked, Iran would also “seal” the Strait of Hormuz, shutting off oil supplies to Europe and Japan. The world economy would collapse immediately.

      Israel is bluffing, as a last ditch effort to get Iran to stop its nuclear program, because they know the US is getting too weak economically to support them any longer.

      I’m sorry to have to say that Israel cannot survive a war.

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    • Paranoid Patriot
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 9:20pm

      seems more likely the CIA is tracking it as they cart it off to the location of a secret research facility which we will now know exactly where is.

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    • WeekendAtBernankes
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:26pm

      Of course they won’t return it.

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    • VoteBushIn12
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 12:04am

      @robert

      Wow Robert, that was some expert analysis on the military strategy of a fictional war. I particularly enjoyed the bit about how Iran’s naval presence would able to effectively shut down the global economy… except lets see what Wikipedia says…

      “The Iranian Navy has traditionally been the smallest branch of Iran’s armed forces and is designed mainly for securing its own ports and coast.”

      It’s amazing what a little research will do for ya.

      Forgive me if I reject your fictional conflict… or don’t… either way I still reject it.

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    • robert
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 12:38am

      VoteBushIn12
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 12:04am
      @robert
      “Wow Robert, that was some expert analysis on the military strategy of a fictional war. I particularly enjoyed the bit about how Iran’s naval presence would able to effectively shut down the global economy… except lets see what Wikipedia”

      Wikipedia. Ha! Really. Try Debka or Stratfor. And I’m going to have to ask you to reread my post because your comprehension skills are sorely lacking……again. I didn’t say the Iranian Navy was going to do anything, but I did give credible evidence of Iran’s updated missile strength, which, incidentally, is common knowledge among people who track military readiness.

      For somebody who claims to have a science degree you fall well short of offerring anything above a childish level. Obviously, you’re just an immature troll with a big mouth and are probably a scrawny little punk who is going to wind up picking his teeth up off the ground if you use the same attitude when confronting someone in person.

      If you want to debate without being restricted to 1500 characters, contact me direct:
      Militiaman307@gmail.com

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    • venture291
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:46am

      @robert
      You are 100% right on in many areas. Debka.com and Statfor.com are the best, wish more people could get the word from these sites. Americans need to get real time news as time is getting short and shtf looks enevitable now. I hope the actors can prevent the 300s from being a bargaining chip. It is now a case of shoulda, woulda, coulda. Has anybody ever heard of the faraday cage to protect against EMP. We in the Navy were so worried in the late 70s about the pulse that hardening military equipment was a priority. Just have not heard much about it protecting civilian infrastucture. WE CAN PROTECT AGAINST EMP but it takes time. Did we care about civilians and lets not forget about smallpox vaccine that’s been destroyed. Never mind im getting conspiratorial.

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    • venture291
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:52am

      Forgot to mention of course there was a self destruct button. Why was it not used though is the question.
      1. gift to level playing feild
      2. i forgot
      3. was hacked, microcooked its data stream
      4. we are tracking to secret site na forget that one!
      5. spread the wealth oh a da i mean technology

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    • chazman
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 7:18am

      … Comon people, this is a lie. Look at that thing. It‘s sitting on a pedestal with a skirt around the bottom so that we can’t see what the underneath of this ‘MOCKUP’ looks like!! If it had a landing gear, which it doesn’t have, wouldn’t it be more convincing to the world if we could see the entire thing standing on its own? Of course it would. I’d bet a thousand bucks that damn thing is made out of styrofoam! Irainian muslims are filthy liars. Until I see definative proof, these lyin’ camel kickers can kiss my AZZ!!!

      All of ISLAM sucks pig meat in hell!

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    • robert
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 7:59am

      venture291
      @robert
      “You are 100% right on in many areas. Debka.com and Statfor.com are the best, wish more people could get the word from these sites. Americans need to get real time news as time is getting short and shtf looks enevitable now.”

      Yes, I agree, Venture. If more people would go to the professionals who are as much in the know as the CIA….and maybe even more so in some cases…….we would have quite an informed force here in this country. Too, it would put the Pentagon and Washington on notice that they can’t lead us blindly into a no-win situation or one that would unnecessarily send our working class people to fight their political wars, when they’re giving the Chinese national secrets and making us vulnerable.

      “I hope the actors can prevent the 300s from being a bargaining chip.”

      Unfortunately, guy, I think the 300′s are now in the hands of Iran, because Russia inadvertently admitted to the sale a while back.

      ” Has anybody ever heard of the faraday cage to protect against EMP. We in the Navy were so worried in the late 70s about the pulse that hardening military equipment was a priority. ”

      The Faraday cage is our best hope right now. But Russia has been experimenting with EMP for 25 years now, as well as other Tesla discoveries and theories, and the US has barely begun.

      What disturbs me is that while Russia and Iran are advancing rapidly technologically the US is consumed with social engineering.

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    • Ethereal
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 11:56am

      @kickin
      Thats what I was thinking. If we can control these things from the other side of the world them why not destroy it with a built in self destruct?
      I know why iran is keeping it,,,, we didn’t say “pretty please.”

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    • mikpowl
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 12:33pm

      This drone was absolutely given to Iran. It’s in perfect shape. It didn’t crash. The question you have to ask yourself if “Why”. I don’t have the answer but I would love to hear your thoughts on it.

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:20pm

      What I‘d love to see is for the thing to be remotely fired up and flown outta they’re when they are all at prayer time. With guns blazing of course. Its nice to dream once in awhile.

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    • robert
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:44pm

      http://www.prisonplanet.com/report-iran-to-practice-closing-strait-of-hormuz.html

      Report: Iran To Practice Closing Strait Of Hormuz

      Experts have forecast that a 30 day closure of the Strait of Hormuz would send oil prices skyrocketing to between $300-$500 dollars a barrel, a level that would trigger global economic instability and cost the U.S. nearly $75 billion in GDP.

      Monday, December 12, 2011
      The Iranian Army has refused to comment after a member of the country’s National Security Committee said today that Iran was to practice closing the Strait of Hormuz, the most important choke point for oil shipments in the world.

      “The legislator, Parviz Sarvari, told the student news agency ISNA: “Soon we will hold a military manoeuvre on how to close the Strait of Hormuz. If the world wants to make the region insecure, we will make the world insecure,”

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    • Keggs1961
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:54pm

      I find this one a little hard to believe. We have satellites that can count the specs of pepper you put on your burger in the backyard. Could the drone be filled with misleading technology? Code put into the control units to infect the network that attaches to it. I may be wrong but I think(or hope) our boys are smarter than they appear! Just a thought

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    • Secret Squirrel
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:44pm

      .
      This is like Clinton selling missile technology to the Chinese.
      Remember Loreal Space and Bernie Schwartz?

      Did Iran bundle some campaign cash?

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    • venture291
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 10:39pm

      @Robert
      Your right again, social engineering will be our last stand if we don’t come to reality. Any thought in running for some type of political office that can have a desperatly needed impact. Time is right i beleive for Americans to open up the heads and elect real people not pandering polititians like we have now.
      PS; did you read the book Throw them all out yet. Thats the legal insider trading scandle expose.
      Also Abranof the out of jail lobbiest also has a good book. This one explain why we still use uranium instead of THORIUM for green safe nuclear power. If you read up on the promise on Thorium you would be impressed. We can even burn all that stored fuel in Yucca Mt instead of tax money still going on researching storage. India and of course China are working on construction already.

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    • robert
      Posted on December 13, 2011 at 6:59am

      venture291
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 10:39pm
      @Robert
      ” PS; did you read the book Throw them all out yet. Thats the legal insider trading scandle expose.”

      Not yet, but it’s on my agenda. I saw Abramoff on a couple of talk shows this week pushing the book, and the interview itself was pretty revealing.

      I think the politicians in this country are so far gone we can’t change them, because the political climate doesn’t allow for it, but the more people know the better armed they will be when it all comes down. Eventually, we’ll have to rebuild. Maybe this time by minimal governing by politicians and the majority of issues being voted on by the people via referendum.

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  • libwhacker
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:49am

    Thats ok we will go get it when Newt wins.

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    • randy
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:58am

      Hey No Problem Iran. Keep looking to the skies when we send you another one ARMED!

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:04am

      You’re smoking crack. We will not be wasting money on this garbage anyway when Ron Paul wins.

      Newt Gingrich is going to crash and burn like the rest of those neocons.

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:13am

      Does anybody remember the story, about a month ago about the computer virus in the drone fleet, at that time they said it would not affect operations…. Im not so sure.

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    • John 1776
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:23am

      Good point! Although, I suspect they brought it down by jamming communications with a tight microwave blast. These things need to evolve to the point where they can fly home if they get disconnected from the data stream.

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    • Cesium
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 1:15pm

      maybe this one has a secret recording device in it and we landed it there on purpose

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    • RightyTightyLeftyLoosey
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 1:19pm

      @John1776 I thought some drones already had that technology? Can’t say for certain, but I’m almost positive that I read something somewhere that mentioned the drones (or whatever it was) would be able to fly themselves home if they needed to.

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    • JMorcan
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 1:35pm

      @ libwhacker

      The only thing we’ll get when Newt wins is a continuing spiral into poverty.

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    • Armed Patriot
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 7:11pm

      justangry… If one of those sailors told me that Iran wasnt a threat, I would tell them, like I tell you, that they are naive or ignorant. As far as fast attack subs or other surface ships… dont mean shite when Iranian warships are able to sail into Intl waters (gulf of Mexico) and launch 3 EMPs. Once the EMPs are launched, your ignorance just killed 200 million Americans. ARE YOU WILLING TO RISK 200 MILLION AMERICANS?

      As far as your assertions to the sailor saying Iran isnt a threat, I first saw Iran as a threat with the fall of the Shaw in1979. The storming of the US Embassy in Iran. I soon saw the bombing of the US Embassy in Lebanon, and the bombing of the USMC barracks while I was in USMC boot camp at MCRD San Diego. Recently, the Iranians were arming the insurgents with arms and IEDs in Iraq and Afghanashit, that killed and maimed many Americans. I saw them take British sailors in Intl waters near Iraq. I saw Iranians take 3 hostages hiking along the border. I saw Iranians storm the UK Embassy. I know Iran is making an atomic bomb and has threatened both the US and Israel. I know that Iran supports Hezbollah, and Hamas.

      Yes, I would tell that imaginary sailor of yours, who already knows that Iran is a threat, That he was either ignorant or naive if he said Iran was not a threat. As I tell you. You are either ignorant or naive if you think Iran is not a threat.

      As far as my time in service… I have served in the USMC, the US Army, and the CA Army National G

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 9:19am

      Armed Patriot

      “are you willing to kill 200 million Americans?”

      Stop your fearmongering. Russian and China have a DUMB amount of nukes already, and they’re our biggest threat. We’ve actually CAUGHT Russian and Chinese spies in the US, and AMERICANS were GIVING THEM sensitive data for MONEY.

      When was the last time we caught an Iranian spy in the US?

      ….I’m waiting…

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  • justangry
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:48am

    Did we think, for a second, they would return our spy drone that crashed on their land? Great Story!!

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  • deetown
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:44am

    When are “We the People” going to wake up and stop this SOB in the White House before we end up like the poor slaves in Iran?

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    • justangry
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:51am

      LOL, you’re hysterical. Maybe they can cross the Atlantic on a couple of tug boats and shoot us with AK47′s. Oh noes!!

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    • COFemale
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:06am

      JustAngry it is idiots like you that think Iran does not pose a threat that get us into these messes in the first place. Don’t think for one minute Iran does not have capabilities to strike the U.S. They do have big war ships like ours. You Liberals are gutless whiny babies, that you can’t see what is in front of your very eyes. You’d turn and tuck your tail if they said Boo.

      Grant you now is the time not to strike Iran; we first have to find out where the drone is kept. We just don’t want to arbitrary bomb a site and it not be there. We more likely will try to get people in to disarm it, if it is not already. Maybe with a little luck they will blow themselves up again.

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    • justangry
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:26am

      Ha ha!! You’re a delusional fool. I was there for the first Iraq war. I remember the hype? “Iraq has the #3 army in the world”, they said… “they’re going to cause mass casualties with chem weapons” the media reported. Remember what happened? You under-estimate the military gap between a pissant country and the only remaining super power. Don’t be scared people like me will protect you, unless you keep calling us liberals!

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    • whosafraidofspookydude1
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:31am

      @cofemale do home work iran and china do not have “blue water” fleet ie ocean going to let the Persians have fun saudi Arabia can spank them israel has enough firepower to glass over persia…btw one of our stealth bombers can nuke 18 targets who cares you wont be able to buy food here soon enough unless you get ebt. .soon anyway ..barrys dream…have fun

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    • Armed Patriot
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:33am

      justangry… LOL, you’re hysterical. Maybe they can cross the Atlantic on a couple of tug boats and shoot us with AK47′s. Oh noes!!

      Hey Mr smarty pants… You do realize that Iran has said it was sending two frigates, with medium range missle capabilities to the US. You do realize that if they enered into the Gulf of Mexico (Intl waters) they would be able to launch 3 EMP missles over the US. You do realize that they, Iran, have stated this as a military objective. You do realize that within on year of them doing such a thing, the US death count would be between 100 million and 200 million dead due to starvation.

      You do realize the potency of modern science and warfare from even the smallest countries given the right weapons dont you??? Or are you just plain ol ignorarant, and willing to die for that right, to be ignorant???

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    • Armed Patriot
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:37am

      justangry… We dont need delusional denyers to defend us. We need brave Marines, Soldiers, and Sailors willing to step up. Here at home I will defend myself and my neighbors, as will the rest of us here. If you wish to deny the Iranian threat to the US, defend yourself. We dont need you.

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    • justangry
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 12:56pm

      @Armed Patriot So, if one of those brave sailors who stepped up told you that Iran really didn’t pose a threat, would you believe them? Because, I was USN 90-94. ARS 43 (1990 Desert Shield) VFA-15 (1993-94 for Operation Deny Flight and Southern Watch) I know that not every vet will agree with me, but I still pray that they come home NOW to their loved ones. I know how much it sucks. I’ve done my time, have you?

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    • chips1
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 12:58pm

      JUSTANGRY:
      If Cubans can float a 1953 Buick from Cuba to Florida, Then Iran sending a tugboat to New York isn’t that hard.

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    • DisasterFamilyDotCom
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 1:00pm

      search “Iranian warships in the Gulf of Mexico”

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    • justangry
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 1:22pm

      If they’re in international waters, so what? Don’t you think we have more than a couple of battle GROUPS scattered throughout the Gulf of Mexico, Caribean, Mediteranian, Red Sea, Panama Canal, Persian Gulf, South Pacific? Sonar planes helos and figthers patroling our waters, Satelites tracking they’re every move. Then there’s only a few who know where are subs are at any given moment, but I wouldn‘t be suprised if there wasn’t a fast attack sub tailing those WWII-style Iranian frigates everyone seems to be so concerned about. No country’s navy comes remotely close to the United States in terms of numbers and capabilites.

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    • Armed Patriot
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 7:13pm

      justangry… If one of those sailors told me that Iran wasnt a threat, I would tell them, like I tell you, that they are naive or ignorant. As far as fast attack subs or other surface ships… dont mean shite when Iranian warships are able to sail into Intl waters (gulf of Mexico) and launch 3 EMPs. Once the EMPs are launched, your ignorance just killed 200 million Americans. ARE YOU WILLING TO RISK 200 MILLION AMERICANS?

      As far as your assertions to the sailor saying Iran isnt a threat, I first saw Iran as a threat with the fall of the Shaw in1979. The storming of the US Embassy in Iran. I soon saw the bombing of the US Embassy in Lebanon, and the bombing of the USMC barracks while I was in USMC boot camp at MCRD San Diego. Recently, the Iranians were arming the insurgents with arms and IEDs in Iraq and Afghanashit, that killed and maimed many Americans. I saw them take British sailors in Intl waters near Iraq. I saw Iranians take 3 hostages hiking along the border. I saw Iranians storm the UK Embassy. I know Iran is making an atomic bomb and has threatened both the US and Israel. I know that Iran supports Hezbollah, and Hamas.

      Yes, I would tell that imaginary sailor of yours, who already knows that Iran is a threat, That he was either ignorant or naive if he said Iran was not a threat. As I tell you. You are either ignorant or naive if you think Iran is not a threat.

      As far as my time in service… I have served in the USMC, the US Army, and the CA ANG

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    • justangry
      Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:35pm

      Pfft!! Whatever dude. You need to loosen the screws in your tinfoil hat. That’s to the left.

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  • garyM
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:44am

    That‘s why it’s so very important not to blow off multiple red flags in an election of the POTUS because with the office comes tremendous powers, he can do what he wants as CIC and call it classified! It’s more apparent everyday we have been defeated militarily by one of our own political parties called the democrats. I see no benefit at all in calling the only party who can stop this partially progressive when it’s not!

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    • SgtB
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:03am

      Why are you not placing any blame on the Republican “lawmakers” for any of this? Do you view the Republican party through some rose colored glasses that you bought at a convention of theirs’? The two parties in power are a duopoly and no matter which way you vote (unless you vote for the Libertarian in the Republican ranks) all you are going to get is increasing foreign entanglement and larger gov’t bureaucracy. I agree, Obama and the Democrats have to go, but so do all of the career politicians who only want to be in Congress or any seat of power so that they can make laws upon laws to further obfuscate our daily lives and gain themselves a healthy paycheck through lobbying and hijacking of our political system.

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  • Conservativeman
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:44am

    Israel is going to pay for this blunder. Hezbollah and Hamas will be flying similiar drones in 6 months to test the Iranian’s new technology against our allies. Barak Hussain Osama, are we surprised that the first muslim President would help out his kin.

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  • c.foster4722
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:43am

    Why dont we trade Obama, for the drone!!! Ah never mined the drone is worth motr then thst I want a be is.

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  • NewLife56
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:42am

    Iran Says It Won’t Return Captured U.S. Spy Drone…

    So? Iran is so stupid they can’t even fly Kites, Then again, Is Obama so stupid he didn’t order a Self-Destruct Button? Or is it he may have wanted Iran to have it? Hmmm…So maybe they can spy on Israel? As in helping his buddies?

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    • SgtB
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:09am

      If you really believe that the drone shown in the pictures is a real US drone then you are also stupid. There is no way that they could have safely landed a US spy drone. Also, their model doesn’t match our real drones, so you can easily tell it isn’t real. If we did lose a drone, it would have to have been shot down or it could have been downed by EMI/EMP. If either one of these things happened, then the drone crashed hard on the rocky ground and burned in its’ own fuel. There is little Iran can gain from this other than undermining Americans’ beliefs that our military is so advanced in weaponry that we are invincible. But that isn’t such a bad thing, because it obviously isn’t true.

      We are technologically advanced beyond almost any other nation in the military department, but war has been waged for eons without attack or spy drones and satellite imaging.

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    • COFemale
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:14am

      I think Iran jammed our signal and that is why we lost control of the drone; they may have used a secondary signal to land it. We don’t know if we managed to erase the data.

      It would not put it past our President or someone in the Pentagon to supply Iran with the codes.After all he is a socialist. He is privy to the highest intelligence data and would not hesitate to authorize someone to pass along this info. We must get this man out of office as I feel he is betraying the United States.

      Salami said, “A party that wins in an intelligence battle doesn’t reveal its methods. We can’t elaborate on the methods we employed to intercept, control, discover and bring down the pilotless plane,” he said.

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    • NOBAMA201258
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 2:41pm

      Russia and china are the ones that will benefit the most from the drone capture in return for their veto at the u.n.!

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  • The_Almighty_Creestof
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:40am

    What?…no fancy-dancy auto-destruct function?

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:12am

      I heard Obama failed to give the order .. considering the way he procrastinated with Bin Laudin .. sounds about right. This time he failed to act entirely.

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  • momrules
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:38am

    Did anyone really think Iran would give it back? Barack Obama practically gift wrapped it and tied the bow himself. Russia and China are backing Iran and Syria. They will use the technology they glean from this drone against us soon.

    Aren’t we seeing a whole lot of “mistakes” with our technology since Obama took office?

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    • OhCanada
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:43am

      Does anyone else think that Obama is doing this ON PURPOSE?

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    • barber2
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:49am

      Answer : YES. But what about that Stimulus Package Economic Recovery ? Duh… ( Oh, well there are other things for Obama Democrats to discuss : Race Card. Blame Card. Evil Capitalist Banker Card. )

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    • doncorleone
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:09am

      Like jimmy and bill before him, this lot believes that the United States as the only superpower is a terrible thing.

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  • Rick300
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:38am

    I think that Obama is waiting for the Israelis to blow up that instalation!

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  • 82dAirborne
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:37am

    Then we need to find it and destroy it. WHEREVER it is. It isn’t a tank. it won’t take much to blow it up into a million pieces. A single tomahawk missile would do the job.

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:41am

      I heard that we had the ability to blow it up (I can’t imagine that we would not have such a device on this technology) and that Obama failed to give the order. If this is true .. it is very disturbing to say the least .. I think he wants the middle east blowing up .. and not the drone.

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    • Rashomon
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 11:22am

      hopefully their waiting for achmadingy to be standing next to it.. then boom.

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    • DisasterFamilyDotCom
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 1:07pm

      Send the 82nd in from Bagdad to retrieve it! They’re bored and have no internet.

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  • South Philly Boy
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:37am

    Who was controlling this drone? A Iranian SYMPATHISER

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    • garyM
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:48am

      Who knows, that’s what you get when you have a POTUS and a party who is anti-American and against the constitution we cherished for over 200 years.We’ll probably never know!

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  • Miami
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:35am

    Obama once again screws the pooch, could have gone in after it or destroyed it before they got their hand on it and stuttered his way to giving the drone to Iran. He’s failing his duty…!

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    • Citizen1
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 12:50pm

      Come On people…
      How do you PROVOKE an enemy…. ?
      You fabricate an insult or offense to JUSTIFY a hostile response.

      Bush declaired that Sadam had WMDs,
      Obama will declair that Tehran has our Drone AND WMDs
      How easy is that?
      Send in the Tomahawks and Light Em Up!

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  • the58thstate
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:35am

    thanks to the prompter we are giving our edge away. this thing should have been destroyed the second a bunch of iranians gather around it. so now our most secret weapons are in the hands of our foes. from our chopper to our drone. this so called president is this countries biggest enemy.

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  • SamIamTwo
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:33am

    Obama had options and simply gave it to them…and what did Nixon do to get thrown out of office? Man Obama needs to go really really soon.

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:44am

      I agree .. Nixon must be spinning in his grave. He was a boy scout compaired to Obama. Obama did fail to act and let this technology fall into the hands of our .. and Israel’s enemies … mistake?

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  • Infidel49
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:31am

    I think it is time to pull all of our troops back, regroup and go get some Iranian a**.

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  • Tear Em Up
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:30am

    What caused it to crash? It looks pristine. Not too mention, the color is all wrong for a U.S. drone….

    http://traffic.libsyn.com/mikeleeandterrymartin/Number_93_Dec._10th._2011.mp3

    Tear Em Up  
  • checkit
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:30am

    This is extremely bad for our technology to fall into their hands. Now China and Russia will have it.

    For it to be in such GREAT condition this appears to be another Fast and Furious Drone Walker plan by this administration. They clearly Failed!

    Any credit that obama stole for getting osama has been washed away this is 100 times worse.

    Since obama refuses to destroy it or recover it, perhaps the Israelis could do it for us…

    Total failure by this administration, there should be an investigation into this, this is quite bad.

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  • Jenny Lind
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:28am

    Really, ya think?

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    • SgtB
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:57am

      All that they have of our “plane” is a bunch of crunched up crashed parts assuming that we really did lose a drone. Also, the “drone” that Tehran keeps showing is nothing more than a mockup of our drone. First off, we don’t paint our planes in that color. Second, the leading edge of the wing is not that round on our drone. And lastly, that thing looks like it was put together for a HS science project in Minnesota. In other words, it is a hack job.

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  • barber2
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:27am

    Hey, nothing to trade ? ( and they have probably already sold the technology to any willing buyer – like their buddies Russia or China )

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  • PappysPullman
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:25am

    Activate the darn GPS locator on the darn thing and obliterate it!
    Should have been done on day one.

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    • Hossua
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:47am

      On day one that might have been feasible. Right now I think that might be rather undiplomatic, not that flying spy drones over sovereign territory without permission isn’t.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:24am

    Thanks again mr Obama for nothing; the treason you keep committing grows by the hour.

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    • checkit
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:32am

      This is so serious there needs to be an investigation, Treason is very high at this time frame…

      Being in-tact is quite disturbing.

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:39am

      I did hear that Obama had the ability to destroy the drone and failed to act .. Treason .. I would say this can be added to the list…. it is getting quite long … obviously Obama is not working for American interests.

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  • nobull14
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:22am

    Yea Like there going to give it because the Oturd administration asked for it back !!!! what a joke

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  • Baikonur
    Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:21am

    Why would they return it? if we caught an Iranian spy drone in our space, would we return it?

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    • I.Gaspar
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 10:41am

      If ron paul were president, he could get it back…
      “Hey, fellas…a little help here…drone please?!”
      And once our good neighbors tossed us back the drone, everyone could go out for ice cream sundaes.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on December 11, 2011 at 12:40pm

      Ron Paul probably wouldn’t be using millions of our tax dollars to invade sovereign airspace with oversized kids toys, get it shot down or electronically compromised, and then try to use that incident as a pretext for further incursions.

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